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| ::::::OK, but you do know that in CG it is official according to constitution. I mean it is not that I'm trying to promote POV matter and I am the first to admit it is just Serbian in Ijekavian. I was trying to keep things official. ] (]) 23:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | ::::::OK, but you do know that in CG it is official according to constitution. I mean it is not that I'm trying to promote POV matter and I am the first to admit it is just Serbian in Ijekavian. I was trying to keep things official. ] (]) 23:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
| :::::::We are not following Montenegrin constitution here, but neutral wiki rules. By that rules, Montenegrin is not regarded as legitimate language, and should not be added, despite personal MNE constitution. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 11:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | :::::::We are not following Montenegrin constitution here, but neutral wiki rules. By that rules, Montenegrin is not regarded as legitimate language, and should not be added, despite personal MNE constitution. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 11:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
| ::::::::Now extend that to Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian. --< |
::::::::Now extend that to Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian. --<span style="font-family:xx-medium serif;">◅ ] <small>(])</small></span> 16:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
| :::::::::Actually, no, those three can be used, as they have ISO code, among other things. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 22:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC) | :::::::::Actually, no, those three can be used, as they have ISO code, among other things. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 22:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| Đe si, kralju? Great to see another fellow Montenegrin editor here on Misplaced Pages. I've been rather inactive lately but I'm making an effort to be more active. I've been noticing a trend in your edits on the position of Montenegrin Cyrillic. Previously, WhiteWriter did mention that Montenegrin is not an ISO-recognized language, and he's right, it's not. Wikipedians follow international standards to maintain neutrality, and as you know, Montenegrin language itself is a rather controversial topic even in Montenegro. Crnogorski-srpski jezik? Are you kidding me? Hell, I don't agree with the way the Government accepted a standardization of the language that gives it a certain Serbian feel to it instead of promoting the local dialects spoken in Montenegro. I can rant on and on about the topic, but long story short, that's just my two cents worth. Back on point. Seeing that the whole controversy here is whether to use Montenegrin Cyrillic or Serbian Cyrillic, personally I feel if the title is written in Montenegrin/Serbian/whatever, you can just write <nowiki>Milo Đukanović (]: Мило Ђукановић)</nowiki>; if the title is in English and needs a translation, then perhaps using Serbo-Croatian can be a good alternative: <nowiki>University of Montenegro ({{lang-sh|Univerzitet Crne Gore / Универзитет Црне Горе}})</nowiki> The template yields the whole ]: ''Text'' without typing it all out. The Serbo-Croatian alternative is popularly used on Wiktionary. I mean, you can continue to use "Montenegrin" like I (try to) do but don't be surprised when your edits are reverted or changed to "Serbian". | |||
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| :::::Can't we just have "Cyrillic"? the name is usually based on the Serbian/Montenegrin anyway. When it isn't and we have to give Cyrillic + Latin, here I think it should be side by side. However, if not, then Serbo-Croat will be fine. After all, it is pluricentric and the article explains that, plus there are enough sources looking upon the four standards (Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin, Serbian) as dialects of one language. ] (]) 09:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hi! Can you please tell me the name of your previous account? Thanks! --WhiteWriter 22:38, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. There really is no previous account on English Wiki. Zetatrans (talk) 22:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Doesnt matter English, any wiki account name! --WhiteWriter 22:40, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have edited on Serbian Misplaced Pages only as anonymous and only in the last six months. Nothing special. Zetatrans (talk) 22:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. Please, dont add Montengrin language,it does not have any official ISO recognition, we have agreement about it, so, dont add that in articles. Thanks. --WhiteWriter 22:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- OK, but you do know that in CG it is official according to constitution. I mean it is not that I'm trying to promote POV matter and I am the first to admit it is just Serbian in Ijekavian. I was trying to keep things official. Zetatrans (talk) 23:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- We are not following Montenegrin constitution here, but neutral wiki rules. By that rules, Montenegrin is not regarded as legitimate language, and should not be added, despite personal MNE constitution. --WhiteWriter 11:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Now extend that to Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 16:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, no, those three can be used, as they have ISO code, among other things. --WhiteWriter 22:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Now extend that to Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 16:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- We are not following Montenegrin constitution here, but neutral wiki rules. By that rules, Montenegrin is not regarded as legitimate language, and should not be added, despite personal MNE constitution. --WhiteWriter 11:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- OK, but you do know that in CG it is official according to constitution. I mean it is not that I'm trying to promote POV matter and I am the first to admit it is just Serbian in Ijekavian. I was trying to keep things official. Zetatrans (talk) 23:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. Please, dont add Montengrin language,it does not have any official ISO recognition, we have agreement about it, so, dont add that in articles. Thanks. --WhiteWriter 22:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have edited on Serbian Misplaced Pages only as anonymous and only in the last six months. Nothing special. Zetatrans (talk) 22:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Doesnt matter English, any wiki account name! --WhiteWriter 22:40, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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Eiii! Take it steady, please read WP:No Personal Attacks. The comment you made on Climate of Kosovo is not allowed here, even if you write in Serbian. It can land you the block and I wouldn't like to see that in light of your constructive edit. Please assure me you won't make attacks like that in future. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, got carried away, I won't make that kind of attack again. Thanks. Zetatrans (talk) 20:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Interestingly, you cannot even make personal remarks let alone "attacks". I was once blocked for a comment I didn't know constituted an attack. Edit as you please but if you have any questions, ask me on my talk page any time. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
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Montenegrin language issue
Đe si, kralju? Great to see another fellow Montenegrin editor here on Misplaced Pages. I've been rather inactive lately but I'm making an effort to be more active. I've been noticing a trend in your edits on the position of Montenegrin Cyrillic. Previously, WhiteWriter did mention that Montenegrin is not an ISO-recognized language, and he's right, it's not. Wikipedians follow international standards to maintain neutrality, and as you know, Montenegrin language itself is a rather controversial topic even in Montenegro. Crnogorski-srpski jezik? Are you kidding me? Hell, I don't agree with the way the Government accepted a standardization of the language that gives it a certain Serbian feel to it instead of promoting the local dialects spoken in Montenegro. I can rant on and on about the topic, but long story short, that's just my two cents worth. Back on point. Seeing that the whole controversy here is whether to use Montenegrin Cyrillic or Serbian Cyrillic, personally I feel if the title is written in Montenegrin/Serbian/whatever, you can just write Milo Đukanović (]: Мило Ђукановић); if the title is in English and needs a translation, then perhaps using Serbo-Croatian can be a good alternative: University of Montenegro ({{lang-sh|Univerzitet Crne Gore / Универзитет Црне Горе}}) The template yields the whole Serbo-Croatian: Text without typing it all out. The Serbo-Croatian alternative is popularly used on Wiktionary. I mean, you can continue to use "Montenegrin" like I (try to) do but don't be surprised when your edits are reverted or changed to "Serbian".
Hope this helps. Živjeli, brate!
- Hej! Drago mi je da Vas upoznam! I know exactly what you mean but Montenegrin is official. On the bank machines you get the choice, English, Deutsch, crnogorski! Generally I like to see Montenegrin and Serbian alongside one another, not so much Montenegrin replacing Serbian. I know it's one language. But if we need to have a single language then it should be "Serbo-Croatian" and if they do that in Montenegro, it should be the same for all ex-Yu articles excepting Slovenia and Macedonia. Why I started again is because one of the articles, Perast, gives a translation in Italian yet no Italians live in the town. I'll get back to it when there's more time, I am very busy these days. Čujemo se!!!! Zetatrans (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on International Court of Justice advisory opinion on Kosovo's declaration of independence. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- The same goes for your edits to Podgorica and Nikšić. Two editors have already explained to you the score on "Montenegrin language" yet you continue to pursue that vision. Staro Gusle (talk) 07:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Can't we just have "Cyrillic"? the name is usually based on the Serbian/Montenegrin anyway. When it isn't and we have to give Cyrillic + Latin, here I think it should be side by side. However, if not, then Serbo-Croat will be fine. After all, it is pluricentric and the article explains that, plus there are enough sources looking upon the four standards (Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin, Serbian) as dialects of one language. Zetatrans (talk) 09:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- The same goes for your edits to Podgorica and Nikšić. Two editors have already explained to you the score on "Montenegrin language" yet you continue to pursue that vision. Staro Gusle (talk) 07:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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