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	Dear Epipelagic, I recently removed a note from the article ], stating thereby that it was "hypothetic nonsense". The note read: ''"Hypothetically, if the ocean were a constant depth, there were no land, and the Earth did not rotate, high water would occur as two bulges in the oceans' height, one facing the moon and the other facing away from the moon. There would also be smaller, superimposed bulges on the sides facing toward and away from the sun."'' Someone had already attached a remark "<nowiki><!-- reference! --></nowiki>" to this note, in fact asking for a reference in a very friendly way.
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	It is a very common misconception that the tides only affect the waters on our planet and the note about the hypothetical situation of a non-rotating earth only adds to this confusion. If the earth indeed would not rotate with respect to the moon (that is at least what is meant here by a non-rotating earth), then all off the earth would be deformed in such a way that there were two bulges, one directed towards the moon, the other one directed away from it. It is nonsense to speak of two bulges of ocean water. The tidal forces do not discriminate with respect to the matter upon which they act. A kilogram of sand grains is affected in exactly the same way as a kilogram of water is. Given enough time (which is the idea of a non-rotating earth), they would both deform in exactly the same way. And indeed this happens. It is not the effect of the tides but our earth has indeed a huge equatorial bulge, caused by it's rotation. And it's not just the oceans that react to the rotation but every particle in the earth. If not, we would have oceans of over 20 kilometers depth at the equator, and our polar regions would be totally drained of water.
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	There is no sensible reference where you can find justification for this rediculous hypothesis I removed. If you think there is one, show me! If you can't find one, then just be so kind as to undo your last edit to the article. Best regards, ] (]) 21:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
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	:* Wikiklaas, the footnote belongs there and is not nonsense. If anything should be expanded and incorporated in the main text of the article. It is not worded as well is it might be, which is perhaps why you found it confusing. It is normal in mathematical physics to start with simplified models that focus on the most significant or first order effects. Your talk about how the earth itself can deform entirely misses the point.

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	::Whoever wrote the footnote starts with "Hypothetically...". I think that might have mislead you into thinking he was proposing a new hypothesis, which he was not. He is referring to a simplified underlying model of the earth, stripped down to the most relevant factors. This makes it easier to understand how the main events occur. His talk about the ocean being a constant depth and there being no land is also poorly worded. The very simplest model is where the earth can be regarded as composed of water alone, and does not rotate with respect to the moon. You are right in saying that "the Earth did not rotate" should mean that the earth did not rotate with respect to the moon. I think the footnote could be worded more like this:
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	::The value of this is that it illustrates the important point that both tidal bulges are caused by the moons gravity gradient, and the outer bulge is not significantly affected by the rotation of the earth (which some text books claim). There will also be a slight equatorial bulge due to the slow, 28 day, rotation of the earth, but that is of small importance to tidal dynamics. The next simplest case would be for the earth to have a solid core which is rigid and non deformable. This is precisely the underlying model implicit in the diagram at the right, which is an image used in the ] article. A further step would be to start rotating the earth with respect to the moon, causing a phase shift in the bulges. And so on. Models like these lend themselves to mathematical or computer solutions, and at the same time explain the most obvious, or higher order effects. A further stage in modelling might be to allow the solid part of the earth to deform easily. That seems to be the issue which so bothered you above. If the solid part is allowed to deform easily enough, then it will no longer be solid, but will have become a liquid again, and we would be back to the model we started with. Allowing any of this underlying deformation does not change the essential tidal dynamics. Best regards. --] (]) 06:27, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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	::* Donald E. Simanek. Retrieved 6 January 2013.
	::* Chabay RW and Sherwood BA (2011) Page 453, John Wiley. ISBN 9780470503478.
	::* Ramsey WL and Burckley RA (1965) ''Modern earth science'', Page 61, Holt, Rinehart and Winston.
	::* Morrison D and Owen TC (1996) ''The planetary system'', Page 203, Addison-Wesley. ISBN 9780201554502.
	::* Hynek, Joseph Allen (Ed.) (1951) ''Astrophysics'' (symposium) Page 468, McGraw-Hill.
	::* ''The Planetary Report'', 1998, Volumes 18-19, Page 96, Planetary Society, University of Virginia.
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	:::Hi Epipelagic, I heartily agree with the way you model the process here, starting off with a simple case. That however, is not what the note did. You are very right when you say that the note could be worded differently. I think it should, and in that case it should also state that it is a simple model, as you worded it above. I did not find the present note confusing. I found it misleading. Hypothetically, if the earth would not rotate with respect to the moon, we would not end up with two bulges of water, we would end up with an earth in the form of an ellipsoid. I'm convinced, by the way, that this build-up of a model, starting with a very simple case, should not be placed in a note, but should be a key part of the main text.
	:::As you mention the equatorial bulge in your discussion: I did not mention the equatorial bulge as part of the tide (which it isn't) but to give an example of how water and "solid" earth react exactly the same to a disturbing force. If that's clear, then we'd better leave that topic and let not enter it into our discussion of the tide.
	:::The picture you added, is a picture of a rotating earth with no friction and also not taking into account the maximum velocity of wave propagation, or celerity. It is often used as a very simple model to explain why many places on earth experience two high- and two low waters each 24 hours and 50 minutes. Therefore, it is necessary for the earth to rotate. It is '''thus''' not an illustration of the hypothetic non-rotating earth as mentioned in the note. For example in Donald Simanek's excellent page on tidal misconceptions, there is not a single model with a non-rotating earth, except for the one he critisises. Simanek also warns for the erroneous descriptions of the tide and tidal models that are given in many text books. I could not read the text of your second reference but as Simanek pointed out; the fact that there is a book making use of a model with a non-rotating earth is not proof that it is a good model. I think every model that adds to the confusion that water reacts to a disturbing force in a different way than the "solid" earth does, should be avoided in a text trying to explain the tidal phenomena. ] (]) 16:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::As I got no more reaction from you, I deleted the note a second time. Not only because it was misleading but also because it was cited at a place where it did not do any good, under Laplace's tidal equations. The note didn't clarify anything there. The paragraph "Forces" would be a place much better suited for introducing a simple model in the main text. ] (]) 15:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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	::::: I was slow reacting because it is difficult to know how to respond to the ideas you raise, since they are just not correct. Such as the idea that tidal movements affected by the moon are just as important in the earth's crust as they are in the ocean itself. Or the idea that if the earth was entirely liquid and was shaped by tidal forces into an ellipse (prolate ellipsoid), then because no solid earth is present there can be no baseline shape or reference surface (such as the sphere the earth would take if no moon was present) from which tidal rises and falls may be measured. However, I do take the point that the footnote can further confuse readers with little background in physics. It would be best therefore to drop the footnote, or expand the matter properly in the text. Personally I think the matter should be expanded, since most text books gloss over these matters, just as the text in the article does. It would nice to see a more explicit explanation set out for why the bulge on the far side closely mirrors the bulge on the near side, and what happens to the axis of the bulge when the earth rotates relative to the moon. However I don't have energy to try and clear all this up at the moment, so we can just drop the matter. If you want a further opinion, ] would be a good person to ask. --] (]) 20:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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	:::::: I did not state the tidal '''movements''' of the earth's crust are just as important. I was talking of the shape the earth would take after "some time" long enough to reach equilibrium. But as a matter of fact the amplitude of the tidal movements in the earth's crust is indeed not much smaller than the tidal amplitude in the open oceans; it is at least in the same order of magnitude. The timing is different of course, as waves propagate much faster in the earth's crust than they do in water. See e.g. ] on Misplaced Pages, and from Universität Bern.
	:::::: Tidal rises and falls are a consequence of the earth's rotation. There would be no tides if the earth did not rotate with respect to the moon. A baseline shape or reference surface, as you mention it, therefore has little meaning. There would of course be a tidal deformation but it would be constant (that is, if the distance between the earth and the moon would be constant too). I hope this is enough to stop you from remarking that my ideas are "just not correct". It would be quite easy for me to say the same of your ideas but that's no way to resolve a debate. Cheers, ] (]) 21:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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	::::::: Earth tides are almost an order of magnitude smaller than ocean tides, and have even less effect on the actual rise and fall of ocean tides along the coasts. Earth tides are what they are, not because the earth is solid, but because the liquid earth underlying the thin crust, is ''denser'' than water. Anyway, let's leave it there. --] (]) 22:46, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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	: I don't agree with your view, but I haven't disparaged or belittled anyone's views on the user page. One of those views belongs to Jehochman, whom I hold in high esteem. Perhaps you found the heading ''Reassurance from admins'' disparaging. I have replaced it with ''Admin views on blocking'', which seems entirely neutral to me. Admin views on blocking are important and should be known to the wider community. I would have thought you would be delighted that your views are given a bit more oxygen. If you feel I am misrepresenting you in any way, please feel free to add (briefly) any context you believe is needed to my user page. Does that address your concerns? --] (]) 00:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Hello Epipelagic, I realized that you had asked me specifically what I thought of this new article. I think it's surprisingly great, even though, as you say, the scope is quite narrow (since I would guess that the great majority of exoskeletons in any marine habitat are chitinous) and also, as you say, focussing on estuaries is partially just a convenience, as that is where most of the research was done. At some point in the future I suppose the article will need to be greatly broadened in scope or maybe expanded and split into several articles.
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	I have tweaked the prose in a few places to make the meaning clearer. I also got the graphics lab to rotate the (beautiful) main image until the horizon was level. I was thinking about taking some of the individual images that you have in the gallery and placing them into the text next to where each species is mentioned? <s>What do you think of that idea? </s> <small>Let me know if you think it looks OK like that (I added a couple as well) or is too messy. ] (]) 22:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)</small>

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	By the way, I don't believe that '']'' (or any true cowry species) can tolerate living in an estuarine environment; they like the clean rocky outer coast. Although I see that '']'' (not a true cowry, in the family Triviidae) "may also live in estuaries". So... should I remove the mention of that species or should we change the wording a bit?

	Thanks for pointing out this very good new article to me. ] (]) 14:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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	I also see that one of the references mentions the specialized sea snails known as ]s; the shelled ones (sea butterflies) are the ], <s>but I don't think this group is specifically mentioned in the text.</s> They are planktonic denizens of the open water and have very thin delicate shells that have been shown to be very vulnerable to ocean acidification. However I don't think pteropods are a big presence in estuaries. Maybe this article was an essay that someone prepared in college or graduate school, and they a little bit shoe-horned some references into it that were not 100% relevant to estuaries. ] (]) 14:23, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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	: I think the reference to estuaries in the title should be removed. Then there aren't issues about which shellfish should be included. I still rather favour ''Growth of calcareous shells''. There should be an article with that title! It leaves the article open to other issues such as factors other than temperature and salinity, how the shell growth actually occurs, and climate change concerns. And, as you say, if it get a bit long, subarticles can be spun off. I also think there might be a better hook for the dyk. What do you think?
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	: I agree with what you are doing with the images. The image of the planktonic crustacean ''Hyperia macrocephala'' should probably be removed. I don't think it has a significant calcium in its shell. I put it there, partly as a place holder until a more appropriate image could be found, and partly just because I love the image. Your lovely image of ''Limacina helicina'' is a worthy replacement for a pelagic example, even though it is not a crustacean. --] (]) 23:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi Epipelagic, I noticed your revert on the dyknom. It is the same person. The account was created right after the original post (six seconds to be exact). Also confirms it. <font color="navy">— ] (])</font> 23:08, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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	: Thanks Ganeshk... I was starting to feel that Isthatfog was getting far too much credit here, but that's not the case at all. I nearly told him off for removing part of his own article, so I'm glad that's cleared up! --] (]) 23:32, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

	If you really like the idea of it, maybe you could change the title to "Growth of calcareous shells". You are right that there is a great deal of promise of expansion in that subject name. We would have to change the intro radically and some of the other wording in the article. We could even have a subsection about estuaries in particular which could absorb some of the rather good estuary references. I was trying to think of a title like "Factors affecting the growth of calcareous shells" but it's too long I suppose? We do have paragraphs about shell growth in several articles already that are mollusk-related. Of course this article also contains info about fish bones and fish scales, what would we do about that? And... do we need to say '''"marine"''' somewhere in the title, because of course there are a ''huge'' number of land mollusks with calcareous shells, and also a pretty large number of freshwater mollusks with calcareous shells. ] (]) 02:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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	:You raise good points Invertzoo. I don't have strong views, so if you have a clear preference then go for it. As I see it there are pros and cons for whichever title you choose. There is already an article for ]s, and ] is a place for fish bones. I'm just thinking that ''Growth of calcareous shells'' sounds like a useful article, waiting to be written, and that this article, for the most part, would provide a nucleus for such an article. Perhaps it could be expanded to cover all calcareous shells, including terrestrial and freshwater. There must be many common factors that could be brought out in the article. Or even better, why not use this to seed an even more general article called ''Calcareous shells''. Potentially, many subarticles could be spun from this. I think that makes even more sense, and could be nicely complemented with another article, ''Chitinous shells''. And yes, I think ''"Factors affecting the growth of calcareous shells'' is a bit long, though it could coexist as a subarticle. Anyway, these are just my thoughts. You and other gastropod people should decide what title you want, not me :) --] (]) 02:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi Epipelagic. Looks like we are both wrong. According to the legends of the Japanese originals, whatever it is in Japanese has been translated as 1. ]; ]; 3. Mamakari; 4; big-eyed herring; etc. So, it is not even a sardine! ;-) Apologies for the very looooooooooooooong URLs!!! Well done on all your hard work on fishes! – ] (]) 22:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

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	:* Hello Rui. I've collapsed your very long urls. I agree with you about the sauce. They were covered with noodles that had been dipped in sauce. However, I do not agree that the fish in the image cannot be described as sardines. Both sardine and sprat are flexible and almost interchangeable terms which can be applied to many small thunniform fish. The ]/] Codex standard for canned sardines cites 21 species that, for commercial purposes can be called sardines including true sprats (''Sprattus'') and small herrings (''Clupea ''). Mamakari is a Japanese term for a small herring or sardine. You could also call the fish in the picture "sprats", since that is also an acceptable term for any small fish shaped like these are. The fish are definitely not big-eyed herrings, which are large fish, up to one metre long, and used for bait, not usually for eating. --] (]) 00:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi Epipelagic. I need some help, and I am certain you would know - What is the meaning of "near" in names of species?
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	It would appear that is is always used with names of new species. The last example would indicate that it is nothing more than exactly "near", but I thought there might be more to it - like being the closest species or something along that vein. You help would be appreciated. ] (]) 20:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Shouldn't all of the orders end at the end of the Devonian? I've never heard of any ptyctodontids surviving into Early Carboniferous time.--Mr Fink 05:49, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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	::I guess to avoid synthesis, we should leave it as is, aside from mentioning that it was based on Benton's notes. But, one of us definetly should contact Benton to ask about those Carboniferous ptyctodonts. From what I've been able to glean of the matter, all "Carboniferous" placoderms have turned out to be either a) reworked fossils/zombie taxa, b) mistaken identification, or c) from strata later reappraised to be (Late) Devonian.--Mr Fink 18:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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	:::Pages 18–19 of Douglas Palmer's 1999 ''The Marshall Illustrated Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Animals'' has a chart mapping out the evolution of the placoderm orders. It is very much aligned with Benton's chart, and shows the ptyctodontids as progressing clearly into the Carboniferous. However he doesn't mention his source. --] (]) 04:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
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	:::Oh, if that's the case, then I suspect that Palmer and Benton are using very out of date sources.--Mr Fink 03:09, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
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	:::::I'm inclined to trust what Monsieur Janvier says, as he's a noted specialist of Paleozoic fishes, placoderms and agnathans in particular.--Mr Fink 04:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::: Yes of course. That's why I pointed to him. But the source to Janvier is the most dated of the lot, and Benton is not to be ignored either. Nelson in his ''Fishes of the World'' 2006 says there "is no clear evidence of placoderms surviving a major extinction event into the Lower Mississippian", and cites:
	:::::::* Carr, R.K. 1995. Placoderm diversity and evolution. VIIth International Symposium: Studies on Early Vertebrates. ''Bulletin du Muséum d’Histoire Naturelle'', '''17''': 85–125.
	:::::::* Maisey, John G (1996) "Fossil Fishes: So Much Diversity, So Little Change". ''Natural History'', '''105''' (6).
	:::::: This is not the same as saying it didn't happen.
	:::::: The states that placoderms "existed throughout the Devonian Period (about 416 million to 359 million years ago), but only two species persisted into the succeeding Carboniferous Period."
	:::::: has a chart on page 473 clearly showing some placoderms as crossing the Devonian Carboniferous boundary. --] (]) 07:33, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::I just find it frustrating that no one seems able to put names on who these Carboniferous placoderms were. That, and I would be more to accept the placoderms surviving into the Carboniferous if we were able to find literature more substantial than just tantalizing snippets and graphs.--Mr Fink 16:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
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	== Re entry ''Baltic herring'' that simple redirects to ''Atlantic herring'' ==
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	Linneus classified ]:

	The entry ''Baltic herring'' redirects to ''Atlantic herring'', but nothing mentioned there about the smaller ''Baltic herring''.

	Recent research has shown that there are few distinct genetic differences between the two:
	where genome differences have been found.

	This was reported on in an article on Swedish Television's website: my translation here:

	It is now scientifically proven that there IS a difference between herring (Swedish: ''sill'') and Baltic herring (Swedish ''strömming''). We were correct after all these years to differentiate between ''sill'' and ''strömming''. There are small but distinct genetic differences, that are dependent on adaption to different environmental conditions, new Swedish research shows.
	For centuries we have differentiated between ''sill'' and ''strömming'' (herring and Baltic herring). If they are caught north of the Kalmar sound they are called ''strömming'', otherwise they are called ''sill''. ''Sill'' are larger and fatter than ''strömming'', but despite this, no biologist has been able to prove that there is anything that differentiates them genetically.

	Until now. Researchers at Uppsala and Stockholm's universities have proven that therre are a few - but - definiive - genetic differences.

	- For about five percent of the genes we found very distinct differences, not only between ''sill' and ''strömming'' but also between different stocks of sill and strömming. (Atlantic and Baltic herring) Leif Andersson, professor in functional genomics at Uppsala university said.

	''Genetic adaption''

	According to Professor Andersson, these differences depend on genetic adaption to local environmental conditions. The prevailing conditions, such as salinity and temperature differences, have caused the fish to undergo genetic adaption so as to better survive in the Baltic, whose prevailing conditions differ from other waters.

	But the results aso show that for the majority of both of the two varieties' genes, there are no differences whatsoever. According to Leif Andersson, this shows that Atlantic herring and Baltic herring (sill and strömming) are very closely related.

	- Linné classed the Baltic herring as a sub-species of herring, and our results support that point of view. But the next step will be to test how well sill (Atlantic herring) can survive in the waters of the Baltic. If this proves not possible, perhaps one should reconsider whether ''strömming'' (Baltic herring) is not a completely different species in any case.


	''Conclusions of research may help to protect fish''

	Leif Andersson now hopes that the conclusions of his research can be used as a means to protect fish stocks in our Swedish seas.

	- Hopefully, our conclusions will enable us to better appreciate the development of fish stocks in the Baltic and the North Sea, and in this way make a contribution to responsible custodianship of the incredible natural resource that ''sill' and ''strömming'' (herring and Baltic herring) provide.

	Nils Pejryd

	reporter Swedish Television/ Science

	Regards ] (]) 18:07, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

	:* Yes, thanks. I'll get around to this matter in a few days. --] (]) 08:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

	== What are they doing? ==

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	Hello! I'd like to call on your expertise with fisheries and aquaculture to help me figure what kind of economic activity takes place ]. They are taken a year ago on the Anhai Bay, the tidal estuary of the Shijing River, near ], China. It looks like people are doing something similar to digging for clams; but they have invested a lot in stone walls dividing the tidal mudflats into rectangles, with little gates here and there for water flow. These structures can also be on Google Maps satellite view. The activity is not unique to this estuary; it can be seen, for example, in the Luoyang River estuary east of Quanzhou as well (), and probably all along the Fujian coast. Any idea what this can be? -- ] (]) 01:35, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
	: No, sorry. I have no idea what they are doing. That's a lot of photos you have taken of those activities! --] (]) 01:24, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
	:: Well, it was a several miles' long seaside road, and I was really curious what all these structures-in-the-mud were all about... Since oysters are said to be prominent in Quanzhou's cuisine, I was guessing that this may be oyster cultivation, but, frankly, not much is seen above the mud (although in ] it looks like people are filling plastic bags with some stuff) to tell a non-expert what really goes on! -- ] (]) 03:59, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
	:: P.S. What puzzled me was that there was no visible structures - posts and strings with oysters stuck to them - visible above the mud, as e.g. on this series of pictures ( http://www.panoramio.com/photo/20681476 ), or in some photos in ]; but maybe it was just a different stage of the production cycle... -- ] (]) 04:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
	::: P.P.S. Actually, it turns that ]s '']'' and razor clams ''] constricta'' (and maybe other species) are being farmed in that exactly area. ( (Analysis of the causes of death of farmed shellfish on the mudflats in the southern part of Anhai Bay)). So I'll be able to put the photos to good use somewhere, after all :-) -- ] (]) 04:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

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	== A kitten for you! ==

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	== Concerning Removed Pictures ==

	I removed the picture of '']'' from '']'' because it concerned a different genus. Plus, I believe that the picture is already featured in the corresponding genus page, anyhow. No hard feelings?--] (]) 03:04, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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	== ANI ==

	Hello. I invite you to revert not because it seems to be utterly pointless, or aggressive, both of which are true, but because it makes you look ridiculously childish and I think you're a better contributor than that, regardless of what side of an argument you're on. --] (]) 19:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	: I don't mind looking "ridiculously childish". It's hard to contribute in any authentic way on those boards without looking childish. But I don't understand why the remark seems to upset you so much. --] (]) 20:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	::I think it was the utter pointlessness of it. It hasn't upset me at all, I just thought that it wasn't worthy of you and all it was doing was further souring the already reeking atmosphere without any redeeming benefits. I just hoped that with the benefit of a moment of reflection, you might agree. I guessed wrong, I suppose. --] (]) 20:11, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	::: Well I might have reverted, but TRM had already replied to the comment when you asked. Incidentally, I don't think the atmosphere was reeking, though one admin was very aggressive (not TRM). These are issues that need rational redress, and until admins are willing to do that content editors will continue to get upset. --] (]) 20:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	::::I don't get your dichotomy of "admins" and "content editors". Both TRM and I are both admins and content editors. You don't rack up the amount of Featured material he has (I have a fair bit, but he has stacks more than me) without being a content editor. You ought to check out the confetti at the top of his user page - try . --] (]) 20:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	::: I already when I said "Yes of course some admins contribute content", and also acknowledged that TRM has made good contributions. My comments were somewhat tongue in cheek. Some of the most committed blocking admins are not content contributors, and I had in mind that CBM's most notable contributions these days seem to occur when he emerges every few week to block Alan again. Anyway, in an unguarded moment, I said some things that might have been reworded. The main point remains, that long term committed editors who on balance contribute usefully are being needlessly blocked to the detriment of both Misplaced Pages and the morale of other editors. There has to be a more skilful approach. --] (]) 21:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	I have a long record of arguing (except in truly egregious circumstances, such as outing) against community bans and indef blocks for troublesome productive users and have mentored several back from such bans and blocks, so you're preaching to the converted.

	However, Alan's difficulty is not a trivial one. Don't be misled by thinking it's about useful or not useful fiddling with technicalities in articles and categories. It's not that at all.

	It's that he demonstrates repeatedly that he cares not a jot for the community, consensus and collegiate editing. That's fine if he's writing for Britannica, but it doesn't work here and is a serious issue. When confronted with opposition, he either ignores it completely, or dismisses it because he disagrees.

	I'd be happy to try to help him work through the issue, but he so apparently doesn't care that there's no point. And while, like I said, I'll go out on a limb for productive editors, I'm no patron saint of hopeless causes. --] (]) 22:14, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Re ani ==

	Just so we don't sidetrack it further, edit filters are easily broken like the blacklist by not doing the triggering act, whatever it may be. This includes spacing the urls or redirecting them through other sites or by creatively merging content. Its not difficult, but socking is perhaps the easiest way around most things. ] (]) 05:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
	: Ah... thanks very much for that. --] (]) 05:54, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

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	== A barnstar for you! ==

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	\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| Hey, ] is an amazing article--thanks for posting it on the Main Page! I think it is good enough to make it to Good Article status; if you nominate it, let me know. Happy editing! ] (]) 02:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
			* ... that an ''']''', sent as a gift to ] in 1515, was immortalised as '']'' after dying in a shipwreck? (1 March)
			* ... that due to a misunderstanding, ''''']''''' was moved from its original genus name? (3 March)
			* ... that a ]-control program in rural Brazil attracted droves of ''']''' ''(example pictured)'' into homes? (4 March)
			* ... that popular ] like ''']''' often escape from ] and become ]? (5 March)
			* ... that the ''']''' was used symbolically in Japanese World War II ], with falling petals representing "young soldiers' sacrifice for the emperor"? (8 March)
			* ... that ] at ] in New Zealand may be damaging the habitat of the newly described ''']''' ''(example pictured)''? (9 March)
			* ... that ] took part in the expedition that discovered the ''']'''? (13 March)
			* ... that the ''']''' disappears from a lava field as soon as any plants start to grow there? (13 March)
			* ... that ]'s lawyer argued that the rules set by the ] requiring Assange to take care of his pet cat ''']''' were "denigrating"? (13 March)
			* ... that ] sometimes prefer the flavor of one ''']''' tree, like "ice cream", over another? (21 March)
			* ... that the ''']''' was known on the Internet for its skeleton-like appearance years before its formal description? (26 March)
			* ... that only one fruit but several thousand seeds were known when ''''']''''' was named? (26 March)
			* ... that while named for ], the fossil ''''']''''' ''(pictured)'' was not necessarily directly related to any allium species? (27 March)
			* ... that the extinct genus ''''']''''', meaning 'mixed beast', has traits of both extinct primates and ]? (28 March)
			* ... that the fossil fern ''''']''''' was described from a single block of ]? (28 March)
			* ... that ''''']''''' is named after ], who discovered seven other species in its genus? (29 March)
			* ... that ''''']''''', published in 1700, sought to give a unique name to every plant based on their "essence"? (29 March)
			* ... that in some rare cases, large ] prey on adult ''']'''? (30 March)
			* ... that only six years after its 2016 discovery, the ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was found being sold in Indonesian songbird markets? (30 March)
			* ... that the ''']''' is called such because of its proximity to the Māori afterlife? (31 March)
			* ... that cultures of the fungus ''''']''''' have been flown on three different satellites? (31 March)
			* ... that the English herbalist ] claimed that eating ''']''' leaves would make a person's spit deadly to serpents? (31 March)
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			\|File:Paleoallium billgenseli SR 10-35-06 holotype.jpg\|''Paleoallium billgenseli'' fossil
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			* ... that despite its name meaning 'unscented', ''']''' can smell strongly of goat? (1 April)
			* ... that ''']''' ''(artist's impression pictured)'' could help us communicate with the future? (2 April)
			* ... that ''']''' the dog was falsely accused of murdering a cat and sent to ]? (2 April)
			* ... that ''']''' was discovered in a Prague factory? (3 April)
			* ... that the ''']''' ''(example pictured)'' found in Ecuador and Peru was once thought to have been brought to Mexico by ]? (5 April)
			* ... that saving the ''']''' included the help of 40 ]? (5 April)
			* ... that the ''']''' gives genuine alarm calls but will sometimes lie to ]? (5 April)
			* ... that ''']''', an ] of ], contains both ] and ]? (7 April)
			* ... that beavers, mules, and dogs have been ''']'''? (8 April)
			* ... that ''''']''''' ''(pictured)'' uses specialized mouthparts to suck the sap of trees? (8 April)
			* ... that female ''''']''''' beetles prevent sibling cannibalism by laying unfertilized eggs? (9 April)
			* ... that ''''']''''' is ], but ''''']''''' is ]? (9 April)
			* ... that there is one male for every 31 females in an ''''']''''' colony, and each female can start its own colony? (10 April)
			* ... that ''']''' is only 38 centimetres (15 in) tall? (10 April)
			* ... that ''''']''''', a ] of ], is also known as the "darkened ]" due to the small black spots on its crusty grey surface? (14 April)
			* ... that despite commonly being caught ], the ] of the ''']''' was instead collected ]? (14 April)
			* ... that ''']''' algae have twice as many membranes around their chloroplasts as plants? (16 April)
			* ... that while the ] species ''''']''''' is considered ] globally, it has been designated as ] in the UK and ] in Switzerland? (18 April)
			* ... that ''''']'''''<nowiki/>'s extravagant dorsal structures have been called both "grotesque" and "particularly charismatic"? (19 April)
			* ... that the damselfly-relative ''''']''''' is suggested to have eight species due to both ] and ] drivers? (21 April)
			* ... that trees of the extinct genus ''''']''''' ''(example pictured)'' formed the earliest known forest? (22 April)
			* ... that the color of a ''']'''<nowiki/>'s throat was thought to depend on sex, but later turned out to depend on age? (23 April)
			* ... that ''']''' seek to stop species ]? (30 April)
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			\|File:Aphaena submaculata.jpg\|''Aphaena submaculata''
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			== Question about revert ==
	Since one user Arthur Rubin reported at Misplaced Pages talk:Edit filter , I happened to read one of the closed discussion.I am neither aware nor interested nor want to comment on merits of restrctions on particular user Alan. But I want to put a different perspective that will help me in technical improvement after discussion with you.

			Hello @]! I was wondering if you could help me better understand ]. I added the food infobox there because it seems like other articles that are about a food item have it—I don't really understand why my adding it to that page was incorrect. Thank you! —] (]) 22:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
	My personal perspective is outright opposition to "technological solution for sociological issue" is self contradicting and not a balanced view.Blocking an user or blocking a page also are in a way "technological solution for sociological issue" ; simmilleraly edit (abuse) filters basic concept and substantial part of its practical usage has been "technological solution for sociological issue". That does not mean we can engineer every aspect of human life through technology,actually this does not need a separate mention every one understands that.

			: ] is not designed to be used in an article like ], which is a overview article about the different fish species and fish groups, world wide, that are used as food. Instead, the food infobox is designed to provide information about specific culinary dishes, like ]. The infobox is used mainly to provide information, like nutritional information, about one specific dish. It is not flexible enough to offer useful information about fish nutritional in general. The one useful additional information that you found you could offer in the infobox was a link to a Wikimedia Commons category about fish as food. That link had already been added to the article in a more appropriate place, the . Regards – ] (]) 04:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
	What I am interested factually is in technological feasibility aspect.What I propose is
			::Got it—thank you! I will try to make sure my use of that infobox is more appropriately tailored. If you have concerns about any of my edits, please let me know on my talk page. Cheers —] (]) 03:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

			== Voting for coordinators is now open! ==
	1)Like other user level/rights if at mediawiki software itself a separate level is available to distingush topically restricted user, then it will be easier to an edit filter to know in advance the given user name is to be checked for limited purposes so such an enhancement may help in saving on resources.(This need not be prerequisete or urgent but if available the better)

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	2)When user name comes first in list of syntax it reduces load on resources as rightly said by user Arthur Rubin
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	3)If variable added_lines is used effectively utilisation of resources is going to remain very minimum
			In NZ English, is it "mentioned in despatches" or "dispatches"? I chose the British spelling in my edit as more likely than the US one, but defer to you.

			Yes, I too am a Drachinifel fan. ] (]) 16:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
	4)The problem remains if a category is to be searched in a large/big size article, usage of variable "old_wikitext",This can be resource consuming. But here if we restrict the user from editing large size article (With help of variable old_size) and allow only to edit only small size article , it allows user to keep working on small size articles and we can restrict the said user from editing restricted category pages too (out of small size articles). Thus we save resources.

	:Besides we can file a bug to have facility/feature to searching an article from bottom to a certain limited length to search a category.So entire article will not get searched and hence save the resources.

	:I do have more suggestions to share on the subject but its better to move forward slowly. Please ,I am eagerly looking forward to your point of view and inputs on technological improvement aspect.

	:Thanks and warm regards

	:] (]) 04:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

	::* Sure I'll engage. However, the on the English Misplaced Pages has made it clear that admins here prefer to humiliate editors with demands that they "bend to the will of the community", where "will of the community" = decisions made by admins and followers of the drama boards, like the one just linked to. This is a classic lose-lose scenario. Trying to help English Misplaced Pages admins grow up has never worked in the past. Many of them were schoolboys when they were appointed, and crazy as it may sound, they are appointed for life. There's a huge number of them now, and they action only decisions that suit them. There is no oversight. --] (]) 05:27, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

	:Hello again ] ,
	:It's very nice to see your positive response and look forward to your inputs.

	:As I said earlier, since I was not following the issue earlier it would not be fair on my part to be judgemental. But if one looks at the discussion you were engaged in a neutral point of view; justifiably one will feel wiki culture is getting more and more democratised, so mob mentality wins against the reason and enshrined expected balance perspective vis a vis original values. like wikipedians are expected to avail offer maximum freedom.

	:What consensus is supposed to offer is deliberation and understanding and best possible inclusivity to opposite side view.When I compared two sentences of two users in discussion

	:1) We can't ban everyone! We need to also remember that his "violations" were actually improving things and the only reason he is being blocked is because he violated a sanction, not because he is doing any harm.

	:2) Your thoughts, while noble, don't actually address the issue of why he can't just follow his topic ban.

	:When you compare two things are being forgotten.a)Human beings are not made for rules but the rules are made for human beings wikipedia basic founding principle expects one to be flexible enough in this respect.b) So second argument is very much talking about punishment.To my knowledge wikipedia blocking does not permit punishment it calls to be preventive. and for being preventive a technological solution in edit filter ensures better level of freedom to both sides and could have been given a chance ? may be.

	:acknowledging only limited sides to solution that is X or Y and then rejecting both and not accepting there can be more sides to a solution z or abcd for that matter is very much a ] used with a predecided purpose.

	:So ? actually sociological issue on opposite end too :) Hope better sense prevails in times to comes.

	:Till then we can carry on with some positive steps. Would be waiting cross fingered to your inputs towards technology aspect.

	:Thanks and regards
	:] (]) 12:19, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

	::* Well it's better to continue this at ] and see if the technological issues can be cleaned up. While the English Misplaced Pages prefers moralising and punishment, other Wikipedias may prefer functionality. --] (]) 21:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks for your valuable inputs at ] .
	:>>other Wikipedias may prefer functionality<<
	:Yes there are such wikis and admins which do prefer reason and functionality, if technically feasible.That is why I requested for inputs. We do have our own technical expertise, still taking inputs from various sides helps improve the things further and we can save time on reinvention of the wheel every time.

	:Thanks again and warm regards ] (]) 07:17, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Pygmy pipehorses ==

	Hello there! We've never met, but I believe we have an editor in common (Invertzoo). I was wondering if you could offer me your input about ]. Also refer to my talk page for part of the discussion. Thank you for your time! ] (]) 01:42, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
	: I ]. --] (]) 04:22, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

	== Renaming ] ==

	Hi Epipelagic. Thanks for your recent help in renaming ]. Another article has recently been posted which in my opinion would benefit from a similar more general title. Could you please cast your eyes over ]. I feel it should be renamed ]. The article needs work in several areas, but getting the title right will be a start. Cheers. __] (]) 19:40, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
	: If you search Google Scholar on , 88 of the the first 100 articles are about birds. Of the remaining 12 articles, five are about non bird taxa (ants , seals , meerkats , prairie voles , apes ) three about begging from humans by habituated animals (apes , foxes , otters ) and four on human begging. Overwhelmingly, the literature is about birds. I think a balanced approach would be to leave ] as it is and start ] as a companion article. Alternatively, a section about begging in other animals could be added to the bird article. But I'm not necessarily convinced by my own arguments, and if you just want ] that would be fine too. --] (]) 23:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

	== how do you know about kayaks? ==

	I'm no expert on kayaks, but I have almost got lost at sea because my anchor trolley ripped out from the side of my yak when the anchor was dragging along the bottom and caught on a rock. I think the reason we are clashing heads is because you are a sit-inside kayak fisherman & I'm a sit-on-top kayak fisherman. They are totally different from each other & both narratives deserve to belong. I fish on the flats (saltwater) and find ] to fish from and then mark them onto my gps. Banks are primitive sandbars which don't fully rise above sea level, but they offer 360 degrees of fishing & you never encounter another human being (or have to deal with them). I was wanting to upload a few pics of a kayak tethered to a ] on a saltwater bank (4 feet deep) and catching lane snapper in an adjacent shipping channel (which is strictly a deep water fish which can only be caught offshore). I'm not trying to domineer the article--just trying to be an advocate for an activity that I love. ] (]) 06:16, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
	: Yes you are right. I have mainly used sit-inside ocean kayaks for making long trips with camping equipment. If you have some good photos of someone fishing from a kayak, they would be good to add to the article (photos taken ''from'' a kayak are not so useful). --] (]) 00:39, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	::Good followup. I think I represent the typical attention-deficit hyperactivity kayaker. I fish saltwater and look for banks that are adjacent to deep holes. That way I can frequently enter/exit my kayak (dozens of times in a typical fishing trip) because I can't just stay in a claustrophobic sit-inside kayak. I feel too constricted. Anyways, I'll try to post some photos later. I took them with my camera phone so I will have to email them to myself then upload them to wikipedia. I wish there was a wikipedia way of instantly uploading my pictures from my phone to wikipedia commons similar to the way youtube allows a unique, hidden email upload ability for each account. () Anyways, are you from NE, SE part of usa? And do you fish fresh or saltwater or both? ] (]) 04:20, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
	::: I mainly kayak or use to kayak in the sea, from island to island or bay to bay along the coast of ], which has a coastline of 15 thousand kilometres compared to 20 thousand kilometres for the USA including Alaska. The west coast is treacherous, and the east coast is relatively sheltered. The south island can be cold. --] (]) 06:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

	== Teahouse discussion on species articles ==

	I was not trying to 'encourage' or 'discourage' the creation of articles for specific species… I was trying to explain a way to address the objections raised to the creation of the article. I was intentionally trying to <em>avoid</em> the actual argument about the 'notability' of the specific species, which is a topic for AfC, and point out that it would probably not get the same objections if the higher level article was better, and suggest how the author could 'fix' this.

	I'm sorry if that was unclear in what I said. I actually personally think that both species merit their own article, however, the 'area' also needs work by an expert, as the linkages between the various taxa (order, family, genus) is unclear in those articles.

	BTW, I see no way in which a redirected link from the species name to a section of the genus article is in any way objectionable, unless the section is so long it <em>needs</em> to be in a separate article. Specific articles about species are a good thing, but what I was suggesting makes WP more 'usable', which is what I was referring to by 'classification of knowledge'.

	] (]) 21:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
	:I agree for the most part. The article is perfectly capable of standing on its own, but quite frankly it would've been a mess for avid readers if the incongruencies were not addressed. In any case, the user didn't take it very well (fter all, it would've been quite straightforward to get it fixed) and his lack of Misplaced Pages experience might've led him astray. As a sidenote, his anger was probably due in part to misunderstanding how AfC works. We're looking into ways to change that at the moment. Water under the bridge now :) ] (]) 21:27, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
	::Which is why I was trying to stay out of that argument, and just talk about 'how to do this in a WP-friendlier way'. ] (]) 22:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
	:::That's a tough one quite often. But I understood where you were coming from, editing discrepancies aside. ] (]) 22:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
	::::(random to be talking here, but the first comment was specifically to Epi) IMO, Bio people are right to focus on 'content' in Biology articles. It's what they are interested in and know about. What's <em>even more important</em> tho, and this isn't a criticism, just a statement that someone should do it, is going though something like fishbase and making all the missing redirects. Much faster than creating stubs, and it lets people find the existing content.
	::::For instance, the guy that wrote the pipefish article. If that redirect has been there, he probably would have fixed that article first. ] (]) 00:45, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	* Well he has written the ], and it is a very good article. I'm going to nominate it for a DYK. I can understand his irritation, and sometimes less input is better than more. The tricky bit is to know when to stand back a bit! --] (]) 00:49, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

	:(looks) Nice.... :)
	:I'm going to toss the navbar and Biology portal and such on. You're right, it is really good. ] (]) 00:53, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	::Sigh...what he did was what I originally recommended. Anyway, glad he did it in the end. We all learnt something along the way. ] (]) 01:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

	* I can't figure out exactly how (where to put it in the code), but it would look a lot better if the toc could be moved to the right, next to the taxobox, with the 'genera' section flowed to it's left, <em>hint hint</em> Much less whitespace. :) ] (]) 01:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	:What about now? ] (]) 02:02, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	::(had to scroll, missed it at first) I was actually talking about the 'toc' itself...giving it a 'forced' location at the top, nested into the whitespace. That does look better, though. ] (]) 02:14, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	:::I added a 'clear right' to the top of the text there (where you put the table)....when I adjusted to 100% zoom, I got a narrow column crunched in between the images... This way, it's just a whitespace that resizes, instead of the text. Thoughts? (zoom in and out a bit) ] (]) 02:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

	* (since this is where the conv ended up and it rambled) I've tweaked the layout a bit in my sandbox, and put a link to it in a new thread on the article talk page. 'Topical' location. :) ] (]) 03:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

	== Fish ladder ==

	Hello epipelagic! You have just removed a unique picture of salmon in a salmon ladder. Should we follow the practice you must also remove the image of the interior of a church, then it is not a church. It's your choice. I will not try to put the picture back. Have a good evening. Regards --] (]) 18:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
	: Jarvin, you have taken a nice photo of two fish, but it just doesn't illustrate anything about fish ladders. Your photo doesn't show the interior of a fish ladder, or the exterior of a fish ladder, or anything at all about a fish ladder. Instead, it shows two salmon which could be anywhere. You ''say'' the fish are inside a fish ladder, but there is nothing in the photo to indicate that. The fish could be inside a fish bowl in a church. That wouldn't make a good image to put in an article about churches. --] (]) 21:10, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	What is your motive for changing the nice, tidy table back to the messy one that was there before? — ] (]) 17:54, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
	: Well that's begging the question, when you talk about your ''"nice, tidy table"'' and the ''"messy one"'' that was there before. Your coding is more simple and more tidy, but visually I prefer the original table, which is consistent with other tables in the article. On a widescreen, your table meanders the entire width of the screen. It is more difficult to read, is a boring uniform gray, and wastes space. I meant to come back and recode the original table (and other tables in the article) in a more straightforward way, remove the thick lines, adjust the colours so they are more subtle, and tweak the tables so the main body of the article text flows round them. But I forgot. However it is just a matter of preferences, and if that upsets you then you can leave it the way you prefer. Regards. --] (]) 20:45, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

	==DYK for Hippocampinae==
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	\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| Hi Epipelagic, Nice touch including attractive and appropriate images in navigation boxes. An inspiration! Kind regards, ] (]) 22:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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	:Yum... thank you! --] (]) 01:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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			:::People who grumble about Misplaced Pages when they have the knowledge - and sources - to improve it annoy the bejasus out of me too. ] (]) 13:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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	: Well that <s>vulgar</s> removal by Drmies, without acknowledgement even in the edit summary, shows just how far the system has ground into the mud. --] (]) 03:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
	::To me that looks more like an edit conflict - note the times. Unfortunate, but not vulgar or actually anything to do with adminship or admins. You could visit Bugzilla and try to suggest that they treat the various bugs and suggested improvements re edit conflict handling with a higher priority, but there isn't much point assuming badfaith of other editors. I'd suggest you just reinstate your edit with an edit summary of "assume that was lost to an edit conflict". As for what it shows about the system, well the devs would argue that we have lived with these edit conflict problems for years. Though I suspect if someone could be persuaded to measure it, the lost edits and the discord it generates, not least in annoyed and driven away newbies would justify a high priority to fix the various edit conflict bugzilla requests rather than the low priority that they are currently stalled by. '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 05:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
	::: Thanks for that :) I'll check it out. --] (]) 06:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
	:: That's a relief, and a lesson on not jumping to conclusions. Things have not ground that far into the mud, but that bug needs fixing! --] (]) 18:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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	: Sorry Potato, I had unpleasant encounters with a user who seems to believe he owns the project, so I decided to work elsewhere for now. Perhaps that's happened to others, and is why the project has slid into inactivity. However, removing people who don't affirm they are currently part of the project, doesn't strike me as a good idea. It means you are removing records other users added which point to their past involvement with the project, sometimes even with details of what that involvement was. Some users might regard that as disrespectful and be less likely to return if things improve in the future. The more usual way projects keep inactive members from clogging the active list is to move users who have not made any edits on Misplaced Pages for, say, six months to an inactive list, with a note that if they return they are free to move their name back to the active list. Trying to exert too much control can backfire. --] (]) 19:19, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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	== ~~Links~~ ~~Removed.~~ ==		== Re: Brain microbiome ==

			Thanks for the update. In other news, the painting of ] on your user page reminded me that I took several photos of a similar scene in California earlier this year that I never uploaded. ] (]) 09:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
	Hi.

			:The thing that I immediately took away from ] is that he is painting real things, not imagined scenes. The wooded path in autumn painting matches my own experience on the other side of the world. I know for sure that it's a real place as he captured it perfectly. ] (]) 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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	Hi Epipelagic - regarding your message of 30.4 about my having entered enough links to the Fisheries Wiki and adding more might put me at risk of breaching the spirit of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines on promotion and the like, I first want to apologise for the delay in responding. But on the issue of adding links to FisheriesWiki where the article in question is about a fish species or group, I have noticed that most (all?) such articles have links to FishBase, and I was simply following the logic of that by adding FisheriesWiki links. FisheriesWiki is a site that is basically the same as FishBase - a global information system with contributions from scientists and managed by a non-profit, which in the case of FishBase (or SeaLifeBase, its sister site) is organised around marine and freshwater aquatic species whilst in FisheriesWiki the data is organised around the places (fisheries) where those species are exploited/caught. These sites are in close collaboration as well. Every FishBase and SeaLifeBase species article has a link to FisheriesWiki (in the 'Human uses' section), which will take the user to a list of all profiles on FisheriesWiki that deal with that same species (e.g., for Gadus morhua there are currently 64 profiles). And for every FisheriesWiki profile, there is a link on the profile ID page to the FishBase article on that profile's matching species. In sum, then, I do understand Wikiepedia policies on promotion but do not see in this instance how I was in danger of violating those policies, and so would like to continue to add external links to FisheriesWiki to Misplaced Pages articles where this is relevant/appropriate - such as articles on other aquatic species where information on a site devoted to human uses of that species would add considerable value for users. Your thoughts?
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			Greetings and felicitations. Please pardon me, but on ] "Balantine Books" should be "]". —] (]) 22:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
	: FisheriesWiki is an open, contributor-based platform based on a model that has a lot in common with Misplaced Pages itself. Misplaced Pages does not have the sort of quality controls that, say, a peer reviewed scientific journal or a reputable newspaper has. Consequently Misplaced Pages editors are not permitted to cite Misplaced Pages itself as a ]. For similar reasons, it seems to me that FisheriesWiki, however useful as a general resource on fisheries, cannot be used as a reliable source on Misplaced Pages. There are some important points of contrast between say FishBase and FisheriesWiki. FishBase is a massive, long established database with a reputation for reliability, controlled and monitored by high profile academic scientists such as ]. It is not funded, as far as I am aware, by any groups which have interests other than scientific ones. FisheriesWiki is a recent start up, and not been round long enough to consolidate a reputation for reliability. It is the product, as they say on their web site, of "an alliance of buyers, suppliers, and producers". There is clearly scope for local commercial and political influences on content within the wiki. So for these, and other reasons, I do not see how it would be appropriate to use FisheriesWiki as a reliable source on Misplaced Pages. You say that FishBase articles link to corresponding FisheriesWiki articles, but they link also to corresponding Misplaced Pages articles. So that doesn't further the argument for FisheriesWiki being a reliable source. Misplaced Pages may not be a reliable source, but it can be an excellent starting point to get a (maybe) reliable overview of how the land lies together with a list of reliable sources which can then be followed up. Similarly, it seems to me that FisheriesWiki can be a useful starting point for investigating a fishery, and may be a good place for for a Misplaced Pages editor setting out to develop an article on a fishery. For that reason, I didn't revert your entries when you added the wiki a few times as an external link.
	: ~~Anyway, that is just a personal initial impression and not a Misplaced Pages position. I have referred the matter for further comment to the ].~~ ~~Regards.~~ --] (]) 03:50, 30 ~~May~~ ~~2013~~ (UTC)		: Thanks — ] (]) 07:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 21

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August 2023—Issue 021

Tree of Life

Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Australiformis by Mattximus Rodrigues night heron by FunkMonk Titanis by Augustios Paleo List of lorisoids by PresN List of storks by AryKun Brontosaurus by Augustios Paleo, reviewed by The Morrison Man Eukaryote by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Fritzmann2002 Stramenopile by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Fritzmann2002 Titanoboa by Augustios Paleo, reviewed by SilverTiger12 Antarctopelta by Augustios Paleo, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Anna Blackburne by Kusma, reviewed by Etriusus Anomochilus leonardi by AryKun, reviewed by Amitchell125 Nyctibatrachus manalari by AryKun, reviewed by Sammi Brie Mimodactylus by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Nyctibatrachus major by AryKun, reviewed by Etriusus Anomochilus weberi by AryKun, reviewed by Etriusus Plant by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Cessaune

Newly nominated content
Ohmdenosaurus by Jens Lallensack Polar bear by LittleJerry Mimodactylus by FunkMonk List of cercopithecoids by PresN List of tapaculos by AryKun Klallamornis by Larrayal Hypericum perforatum by Fritzmann2002 Holozoa by Snoteleks Teloschistaceae by Esculenta Carcharodontosaurus by Augustios Paleo Nyctibatrachus radcliffei by AryKun Anomochilus by AryKun

New contest!

This month has seen an incredible amount of activity creating high quality content, with 3 FAs, 3 FACs, and a veritable flood of GAs and GANs, not to mention the FLs and FLCs. To help maintain this high level of activity going forward, WikiProject Tree of Life is starting a new monthly rolling contest, inspired by the contest run by WikiProject Military History. This contest should hopefully help incentivize editors to contribute in ways that are less daunting than writing articles that are GA and FA-quality. Even improving articles from stub to start class, or helping other editors by reviewing their work at GAN, FAC, or FLC, gets you points, with bonus points for articles with especially high page views. Make sure to participate in any way you can, and help improve the 'pedia while having fun and winning Barnstars!

August DYKs

Two salt marsh snakes

Blackburnian warbler

... that orcas have been teaching each other to attack boats? (August 2)
... that Ameles decolor has one of the most complex mating rituals of any praying mantis? (August 4)
... that salt marsh snakes (examples pictured) drink only rainwater? (August 6)
... that by 1967, staff at the Home Office were told not to feed Peta morsels of food as she had become "inordinately fat"? (August 8)
... that the perigynia of the few-flowered sedge spring outward when brushed against? (August 16)
... that three burnt golf balls are preserved at Kew Gardens as a "rare fungal species"? (August 19)
... that the chemicals responsible for the smell of freshly cut grass are a plant defense mechanism? (August 20)
... that the Blackburnian warbler (example pictured) is named after Anna Blackburne, who provided specimens to Thomas Pennant? (August 22)
... that Tylocephale possibly used their domed skulls to fight one another? (August 24)
... that John Cleese once called Olivia Benson "the weirdest cat I've ever seen in my life"? (August 25)
... that Winston Churchill was often portrayed as a bulldog (pictured), but his personal pet dog during the Second World War was a poodle? (August 25)
... that a report by the philosopher Jonathan Birch and colleagues led to cephalopods and decapods being recognised as sentient under the UK's Animal Welfare (Sentience) Act? (August 27)
... that Mike Wingfield named a fungus after his first grandchild, Rachel? (August 27)
... that depending on who you ask, an anomochilid could be a dwarf or a giant? (August 28)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 22

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September 2023—Issue 022

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Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
List of cercopithecoids by PresN List of tapaculos by AryKun Polar bear by Little Jerry Ohmdenosaurus by Jens Lallensack Amargatitanis by Augustios Paleo, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Teloschistaceae by Esculenta, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Holozoa by Snoteleks, reviewed by Esculenta Ashy flycatcher by AryKun, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Nyctibatrachus radcliffei by AryKun, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Carcharodontosaurus by Augustios Paleo, reviewed by SilverTiger12 Life by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Apatosaurinae by Augustios Paleo, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Hypericum perforatum by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by Femke

Newly nominated content
Mountain pigeon by AryKun List of hominoids by PresN List of cranes by AryKun List of tarsiiformes by PresN Lycorma meliae by Etriusus Aristonectes by Amirani1746 Animal echolocation by Chiswick Chap Hyalospheniidae by Snoteleks Buellia frigida by Snoteleks

Contest results

The first edition of our new monthly contest had perhaps a little less participation than I hoped for, but it still resulted in a huge amount of content work, mainly focussed on de-stubbing articles on little-known species, although we did also see two GAs for Holozoa and Hypericum perforatum. Overall, over 60 articles were improved, with most going from stubs or redlinks to fully fleshed out articles. The winner this month was Simongraham, who improved 21 articles about spiders, mainly to B and C class, and racked up 70 points, over twice the next highest. Hopefully, we'll continue to see such great work next month, with even more participants and even more articles improved.
Also anyone who wants to help coordinate the contest can just drop by at the talk page, I really need help.

September DYKs

Republicopteron douseae fossil

Male Phallichthys fish

Mimodactylus reconstruction

Adult ashy flycatcher

... that with all known Palaeorehniidae fossils (example pictured) being incomplete, the relationships of the family are uncertain? (September 2)
... that butterfly collector Ian Heslop was once required to supervise an execution? (September 3)
... that the Munich Mouser, Neville Chamberlain's pet, and Nelson, Winston Churchill's pet, had a rivalry during World War II? (September 6)
... that Phallichthys (literally 'penis fish') species are so called because the males (example pictured) have "comparatively huge" sex appendages? (September 8)
... that merry widows like soft bottoms? (September 10)
... that Mimodactylus (reconstruction pictured) is the first complete pterosaur from the Afro-Arabian continent? * ... that small Poecilia gillii males have longer sex organs than larger males, to facilitate mating with females that flee from them? (September 12)
... that the dwarf merry widow is not very brave? (September 13)
... that dwarf mollies hit rock bottom when they grow up? (September 14)
... that the Siberian crane is considered more threatened than the whooping crane, despite there being an estimated ten times more of them? (September 15)
... that one way to tell the African dusky flycatcher apart from the ashy flycatcher (example pictured) is that the former is "cuter"? (September 18)
... that the spiky inedible grass Triodia scintillans tastes like salt and vinegar chips? (September 19)
... that the bicolor molly inevitably goes off the deep end in adulthood? (September 27)
... that the Waitangiroto Nature Reserve is the only known nesting area for the eastern great egret in New Zealand? (September 28)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 23

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October 2023—Issue 023

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Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Mimodactylus by FunkMonk Mountain pigeon by AryKun List of tarsiiformes by PresN List of hominoids by PresN List of cranes by AryKun Outline of lichens by MeegsC Lycorma meliae by Etriusus, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Oak by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Esculenta Animal echolocation by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Primium Elke Mackenzie by Esculenta, reviewed by Moriwen Dwarf pufferfish by Primium, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Hyalospheniidae by Snoteleks, reviewed by An anonymous username, not my real name Paroedura maingoka by Olmagon, reviewed by Jens Lallensack

Newly nominated content
Hypericum sechmenii by Fritzmann2002 Teloschistaceae by Esculenta Nyctibatrachus major by AryKun List of sunbirds by AryKun List of platyrrhines by PresN Handicap principle by Chiswick Chap Slime mold by Chiswick Chap Punctelia by Esculenta Pulchrocladia retipora by Esculenta Anaptychia ciliaris by Esculenta Mocquard's Madagascar ground gecko by Olmagon Zavodovski Island by Jo-Jo Eumerus Chrysothrix chlorina by Esculenta Wood-pasture hypothesis by AndersenAnders Mammalian kidney by D6194c-1cc Lepas testudinata by Etriusus Teratoscincus roborowskii by Olmagon

Contest results

The second edition of our monthly contest was even better than the last month, with 80 articles improved spanning the entire tree of life. The winner this month was Quetzal1964, who contributed to 47 articles, mainly relating to marine fish, and racked up 81 points in the process. In second place was simongraham, who got 60 points from 14 articles on various species of jumping spiders. simongraham is still at the top of our overall standings, with 130 points, and Quetzal1964's close behind on 108. The November edition of the contest is now open: feel free to drop by and participate if you work on any TOL-related articles this month.

October DYKs

Illustration of swordtail mollies

Lycorma meliae

Illustrations of the front foot (A) and hind foot (B) of Diplobune quercyi

... that the Siberian columbine has been crossed with another species in the genus Aquilegia to determine the gene behind the genus's nectar spurs? (October 2)
... that the swordtail molly (examples pictured) and the Petén molly have been named and renamed so often, one even ending up with the other's name at one point, that the swordtail molly's current scientific name means 'confusion'? (October 8)
... that the early big cat Pachypanthera may have weighed as much as 142 kilograms (313 lb) and had teeth similar to a hyena's? (October 9)
... that ancient Greek philosopher Xenophon thought the alopekis was part dog, part fox? (October 11)
... that the katydid-like fossil Republicopteron douseae possibly could not sing? (October 12)
... that a Brontosaurus stamp led to the United States Postal Service being accused of "fostering scientific illiteracy"? (October 16)
... that the wings of Lycorma meliae (example pictured) undergo multiple color changes throughout their lives? (October 16)
... that the three-toed species of Diplobune (fossils pictured) were mammals of the order of "even-toed ungulates"? (October 17)
... that although fossils of the extinct mammal Asiavorator were first found in 1922, the genus was not named until 73 years later, in 1995? (October 18)
... that in aquariums, the humpbacked limia is known to cannibalise the young? (October 21)
... that Hypericum perforatum was a common component of classical cure-all concoctions called theriacs? (October 21)
... that Aristotle classified living things based on whether they had a "sensitive soul" or, like plants, only a "vegetative soul"? (October 22)
... that in June 2022, a neurosurgeon found a roundworm in someone's brain? (October 23)
... that ancient permafrost can preserve viable microorganisms, some of which contain antibiotic-resistance genes that may be transferred to modern bacteria? (October 27)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 24

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November 2023—Issue 024

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Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Hypericum sechmenii by Fritzmann2002 Nyctibatrachus major by AryKun List of platyrrhines by PresN List of gymnosperm families by Dank Varroa destructor by KoA, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Lepas testudinata by Etriusus, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Island bronze-naped pigeon by AryKun, reviewed by SilverTiger12 Placidium arboreum by Esculenta, reviewed by SilverTiger12 Orange-billed lorikeet by AryKun, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Spinular night frog by AryKun, reviewed by An anonymous username, not my real name Crested cuckoo-dove by AryKun, reviewed by Femke Aristonectes by Amirani1746, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Mocquard's Madagascar ground gecko by Olmagon, reviewed by Etriusus Femoral gland by Esculenta, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Ameerega munduruku by AryKun, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Snowy plover by Jens Lallensack, reviewed by SilverTiger12 Crested cuckoo-dove by AryKun, reviewed by Grungaloo Wood-pasture hypothesis by AndersenAnders, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Hypericum bupleuroides by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by Etriusus Teratoscincus roborowskii by Olmagon, reviewed by Esculenta Pulchrocladia retipora by Esculenta, reviewed by Etriusus Anaptychia ciliaris by Esculenta, reviewed by Jens Lallensack

Newly nominated content
Snowy plover by Jens Lallensack List of birds of Bouvet Island by AryKun Laomaki by An anonymous username, not my real name Nyctibatrachus robinmoorei by AryKun Nyctibatrachus sabarimalai by AryKun Nyctibatrachus mewasinghi by AryKun Eucalyptus gomphocephala by Hughesdarren

Contest results

The third edition of our monthly contest saw Quetzal1964 win for the second month in a row, scoring 68 points from 39 articles about a variety of marine fishes. In second place for the month is Olmagon, who scored 45 points from 10 articles on extinct crustaceans and geckoes. In the overall standings, Quetzal1964 leapfrogged over simongraham into first place, with 176 points from 109 articles; simongraham is now in second place with 136 points from 37 articles. The December edition of the contest is now open: feel free to drop by and participate if you work on any TOL-related articles this month.

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November DYKs

A bacterium that thrives in the deep ocean

Georges Cuvier's reconstruction of Anoplotherium commune

Paroedura maingoka

Field of Wyethia amplexicaulis in bloom

An adult dwarf pufferfish

Adult Balkan terrapin

Planocarina marginata, a hyalospheniid amoeba

... that a variety of the Connecticut field pumpkin is known as "the original commercial jack-o'-lantern pumpkin"? (November 1)
... that insects not only destroyed the personal plant collection of John Hunter Thomas, but also bear his name? (November 3)
... that life exists in every part of the biosphere, from the deepest parts of the ocean (bacterium pictured) to altitudes of up to 64 km (40 miles) in the atmosphere? (November 6)
... that Sivapardus was larger than a leopard, smaller than a lion, and had a face like a cheetah? (November 7)
... that Lillian V. Holdeman Moore identified a spike in hydrogen-gas-producing bacteria in Skylab astronauts? (November 8)
... that euglossine bees distribute the seeds of vanilla tlatepusco? (November 11)
... that in 1822, the Paleogene mammal Anoplotherium commune (reconstruction pictured) was the first fossil species to be subjected to a brain cast study? (November 12)
... that the island bronze-naped pigeon is a popular food at bars and parties on São Tomé? (November 12)
... that little pink elephants are parasitic? (November 12)
... that the gecko Paroedura maingoka (pictured) imitates venomous scorpions to discourage predators? (November 13)
... that the scenic fields of northern wyethia (pictured) found in the western United States are sometimes a sign that an area has been overgrazed? (November 15)
... that a 1950s album of frog calls developed a cult following? (November 15)
... that at a maximum standard length of roughly 2 cm (0.8 in), dwarf pufferfish are some of the smallest pufferfish in the world? (November 18)
... that the authors of The Neanderthals Rediscovered learned that their book proposal had been accepted on the same day they took their twin sons home from hospital? (November 20)
... that hatchling Balkan terrapins are only 3 to 4 centimetres (1.2 to 1.6 in) in length, while adults (example pictured) can grow as long as 25 cm (9.8 in)? (November 21)
... that organisms could harvest kinetic energy to survive? (November 22)
... that pollution in rivers scatters far-red light, making it harder for plants like Noveloa to germinate? (November 23)
... that many hyalospheniid amoebae (example pictured) construct shells by stealing mineralized particles from the shells of their prey? (November 28)
... that an ancient wildcat species is known only from a part of the jaw of a single animal discovered in Poland? (November 29)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 25

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December 2023—Issue 025

Tree of Life

Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Snowy plover by Jens Lallensack Teloschistaceae by Esculenta List of birds of Bouvet Island by AryKun List of sunbirds by AryKun Slime mold by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Esculenta Handicap principle by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Etriusus Insect by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Iztwoz Wheat by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by KoA Eucalyptus gomphocephala by Hughesdarren, reviewed by Grungaloo Buellia frigida by Esculenta, reviewed by J Milburn Nyctibatrachus robinmoorei by AryKun, reviewed by Grungaloo Nyctibatrachus mewasinghi by AryKun, reviewed by Grungaloo Nyctibatrachus sabarimalai by AryKun, reviewed by Grungaloo Great cuckoo-dove by AryKun, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Lake Patzcuaro salamander by Etriusus, reviewed by Grungaloo Anoplotherium by PrimalMustelid, reviewed by 20 upper

Newly nominated content
Alpine ibex by LittleJerry Pseudastacus by Olmagon Pachysentis by Mattximus List of primates by PresN Banded palm civet by Cremastra Perothops by Memer15151 Hypericum hircinum by Fritzmann2002 Boquila by Etriusus and Veridicae Aptostichus barackobamai by Etriusus Buffy-tufted marmoset by André Ribeiro Cardoso Ant mimicry by Chiswick Chap Mosquito by Chiswick Chap Anopheles by Chiswick Chap Rice by Chiswick Chap Pliosaurus andrewsi by Amirani1746 Triassosculda by Abdullah raji Flaco (owl) by Rhododendrites Crassispira incrassata by Etriusus Sei whale by 20 upper

Contest results

And so ends the fourth edition of the monthly rolling contest, as well as the 2023 Tree of Life Contest as a whole. This month saw simongraham win with a very impressive 120 points from 27 articles. Quetzal1964 was second with 74 points from 37 articles. The annual contest was a close race between simongraham and Quetzal1964; simongraham won first place with 256 points from 64 articles, and Quetzal1964 was second with 250 points from 146 articles. Snoteleks was third with 79 points from 33 articles. Congratulations to everyone who won this year and my gratitude to everyone else who helped raise the quality of articles in our little corner of Misplaced Pages this year. Additionally, a very Happy New Year to everyone in the project and here's looking forward to continuing our good work in 2024!

December DYKs

Snowy plover with chicks

Bofedales in the foreground

Adult female Varroa mite

Dennstaedtia christophelii fossil frond

... that a "bat ensnared by a plant" was discovered in the garden of the Palestine Museum of Natural History? (December 2)
... that female snowy plovers often abandon their families as soon as the chicks hatch? (December 4)
... that Lepas testudinata can form colonies of more than 1000 members at a time? (December 5)
... that the gecko Teratoscincus roborowskii eats caper fruits and disperses the plant's seeds in its feces? (December 5)
... that Henk Zwartepoorte quacked at caimans? (December 5)
... that the green colour of bofedales (examples pictured) stands out in the yellow surrounding landscape? (December 6)
... that Desulfovibrio vulgaris can remove toxic heavy metals from the environment? (December 8)
... that Varroa destructor (example pictured), the Varroa mite, is an external parasitic mite that attacks and feeds on honey bees and is one of the most harmful honey-bee pests in the world? (December 11)
... that young orange-billed lorikeets are actually yellow-billed? (December 16)
... that stinking tutsan smells like goat? (December 20)
... that orange paintbrushes are guarded by rufous hummingbirds? (December 21)
... that the Antarctic lichen Buellia frigida has been to outer space? (December 22)
... that the closest modern fern relatives to Dennstaedtia christophelii (fossil pictured) of the Pacific Northwest are tropical species from South America? (December 24)
... that in Icelandic folklore, the Yule cat eats people who do not receive new clothing for Christmas? (December 25)
... that the Lake Patzcuaro salamander's native habitat is limited to a single lake in Mexico? (December 28)
... that plant species like Hypericum bupleuroides can reproduce by a callus? (December 29)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 26

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Tree of Life

Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

Newly recognized content
Alpine ibex by LittleJerry Markham's storm petrel by FunkMonk, Jens Lallensack, and Therapyisgood List of primates by PresN List of birds of Alberta by grungaloo Rice by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by RecycledPixels Barley by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Bruxton Chicken by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by DocZach Cereal by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Bruxton Ant mimicry by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by AryKun Anopheles by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by AryKun Mosquito by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by 20 upper Cherry blossom by Reconrabbit, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Sei whale by 20 upper, reviewed by grungaloo Megaherbivore by 20 upper, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Brown bear by 20 upper, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Indian rhinoceros by 20 upper, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Hypericum hircinum by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by grungaloo Hypericum foliosum by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Hypericum grandifolium by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by Esculenta Boquila by Etriusus, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Aptostichus barackobamai by Etriusus, reviewed by Esculenta Crassispira incrassata by Etriusus, reviewed by 20 upper Punctelia by Esculenta, reviewed by Ealdgyth Chrysothrix chlorina by Esculenta, reviewed by Ealdgyth Chrysothrix chlorina by Esculenta, reviewed by Ealdgyth Ramalina peruviana by Esculenta, reviewed by Ealdgyth Menemerus animatus by simongraham, reviewed by Esculenta Afraflacilla braunsi by simongraham, reviewed by grungaloo Nasutoceratops by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Pseudastacus by Olmagon, reviewed by FunkMonk Angustidontus by Super Dromaeosaurus and Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Amitchell125 Pruemopterus by Super Dromaeosaurus and Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Etriusus Black-billed magpie by grungaloo, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Black-capped chickadee by grungaloo, reviewed by Jens Lallensack Horned sungem by Jens Lallensack, reviewed by grungaloo Flaco (owl) by Rhododendrites, reviewed by Etriusus Telonemia by Snotoleks, reviewed by Esculenta "Pliosaurus" andrewsi by Amirani1746, reviewed by grungaloo Beaver drop by Lightburst, reviewed by Chiswick Chap

Newly nominated content
Horned sungem by Jens Lallensack Tufted jay by grungaloo Nasutoceratops by FunkMonk Maize by Chiswick Chap Cattle by Chiswick Chap Pig by Chiswick Chap Domestic duck by Chiswick Chap Eusociality by Chiswick Chap Fish by Chiswick Chap Barnacle by Chiswick Chap Ochrophyte by Snotoleks Parvilucifera by Snotoleks Thalattoarchon by Amirani1746 Hydropunctaria amphibia by Esculenta Melanohalea by Esculenta Spot test (lichen) by Esculenta Lecideaceae by Esculenta Hypericum × inodorum by Fritzmann2002 Hypericum sect. Androsaemum by Fritzmann2002 Olga Hartman by Viriditas Mixtotherium by PrimalMustelid Enhydriodon by PrimalMustelid Lentinus brumalis by Зэгс ус

News at a glance

Our first double issue in almost four years, although we will try to return to a monthly schedule henceforth (incidentally, the last double issue saw Markham's storm petrel at GAN, and this one sees it finally pass FAC).
A highly competitive first round of the WikiCup sees four Tree of Life editors advance to the second round: MtBotany, Fritzmann2002, Ealdgyth, and AryKun
The March 2024 GAN Backlog Drive starts today; everyone is welcome to participate and help reduce the backlog of GANs.
The January edition of our monthly rolling contest was won by Quetzal1964 with 100 points from 40 articles, mainly related to various species of marine fish. simongraham was second with 80 points from 14 articles on jumping spiders.
The February edition saw Quetzal1964 win for the second time in a row, with 114 points from 43 articles. In second place was Snoteleks, with 21 points from 7 seven articles on various unicellular eukaryotes, including the GA Telonemia.

January DYKs

... that Dacrytherium, literally meaning 'tear beast', was named after its "tear-pit"? (3 January)
... that misidentifications of the crested cuckoo-dove have led to claims that the extinct Choiseul pigeon is still around? (4 January)
... that the wood-pasture hypothesis posits that semi-open wood pastures and not primeval forests are the natural vegetation of temperate Europe? (5 January)
... that until April 2023, when the genus Triassosculda was discovered, the mantis shrimp fossil record contained a gap of more than a hundred million years? (5 January)
... that although Olga Hartman believed that her basic research on marine worms had no practical value, it was applied to experimental studies of oysters? (6 January)
... that Oxford ivy grows towards the light to bloom and then towards the darkness when going to seed? (17 January)
... that S. F. Light (pictured) disliked using his full name? (20 January)
... that the fossil turtle Acherontemys was named for a "river of the fabled lower world"? (26 January)
... that a species of spider is named after Barack Obama? (27 January)
... that Boquila trifoliolata is the only known plant capable of simultaneously mimicking multiple species? (27 January)
... that Harpegnathos alperti worker ants have black heads and chocolate-colored mandibles? (28 January)
... that all known populations of Epipterygium opararense (example pictured) live within a 5-metre (16 ft) radius in New Zealand? (28 January)
... that female swamp guppies (pictured) show no preference for orange or red coloration during courtship? (29 January)

S. F. Light examining termites
Epipterygium opararense
Gold-morph swamp guppies

February DYKs

... that black-billed magpies are known to eat ticks off deer and other large mammals (example pictured)? (1 February)
... that scientist Adelaida K. Semesi was known as "mama mangroves" due to her specialist knowledge of their ecology? (2 February)
... that for the southern molly, sexual selection favors smaller males because they copulate by sneaking up to females? (2 February)
... that eyelash seaweed may have been made extinct by a single 2016 earthquake? (4 February)
... that conservation in Indonesia had little local support after independence because it was associated with the Dutch colonial period? (5 February)
... that the artiodactyl Ephelcomenus is thought to have been capable of burrowing? (6 February)
... that male mangrove mollies mate sneakily? (14 February)
... that barley was once used as a form of money? (14 February)
... it has been suggested that Crassispira incrassata may be a southern variation of Crassispira bottae and not its own species? (15 February)
... that the shining St John's wort owes its bright colors partly to carotenoid compounds? (18 February)
... that having lived in Central Park for more than a year after becoming homeless, Flaco (pictured) has been accused of being a peeping tom? (19 February)
... that the horned sungem (example pictured) is sometimes a nectar robber? (24 February)
... that the sea slug Bosellia mimetica benefits from photosynthesis? (25 February)
... that almost all members of a flock of tufted jays work together to build a nest? (28 February)
... that the hippocampus of the black-capped chickadee grows in the fall and shrinks in the spring? (29 February)
... that an Indian rhinoceros, sent as a gift to Pope Leo X in 1515, was immortalised as Dürer's Rhinoceros after dying in a shipwreck? (29 February)

Black-billed magpie eating ticks off the back of a cow
Flaco peeping through a window
Horned sungem robbing a flower

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 27

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March and April 2024—Issue 027

Tree of Life

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Newly recognized content
Horned sungem by Jens Lallensack Tufted jay by grungaloo Pseudastacus by Olmagon List of erinaceids by PresN Primates by PresN Hypericum sect. Androsaemum by Fritzmann2002 Thalattoarchon by Amirani1746, reviewed by Esculenta Lentinus brumalis by Зэгс ус, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Hypericum sect. Androsaemum by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by Maxim Masiutin Hypericum × inodorum by Fritzmann2002, reviewed by AryKun Barnacle by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Lightburst Maize by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by AryKun Pig by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Wolverine XI Orange (fruit) by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by 750h+ Fish by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Reconrabbit Organism by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Esculenta Hydropunctaria amphibia by Esculenta, reviewed by AryKun Melanohalea by Esculenta, reviewed by AryKun Lecideaceae by Esculenta, reviewed by Wolverine XI Xylopsora canopeorum by Esculenta, reviewed by AryKun Spot test (lichen) by Esculenta, reviewed by AryKun Gustaf Einar Du Rietz by Esculenta, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Allocalicium by Esculenta, reviewed by Simongraham Multiclavula mucida by Esculenta, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Aphaena submaculata by Etriusus, reviewed by Wolverine XI White-tailed jay by Grungaloo, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Fork-tailed drongo by The Blue Rider, reviewed by Chiswick Chap Northern green anaconda by Chaotic Enby, reviewed by Geardona Heptamegacanthus by Mattximus, reviewed by Esculenta Mixtotherium by PrimalMustelid, reviewed by FunkMonk Diplobune by PrimalMustelid, reviewed by Wolverine XI Ochrophyte by Snoteleks, reviewed by Ealdgyth Parvilucifera by Snoteleks, reviewed by Fritzmann2002 Urceolus by Snoteleks, reviewed by Fritzmann2002 Plexippoides regius by Simongraham, reviewed by Grungaloo Olga Hartman by Viriditas, reviewed by Lightburst Giant panda by Wolverine XI, reviewed by Thebiguglyalien Enchylium conglomeratum by Xkalponik, reviewed by Wolverine XI

Newly nominated content
Great cuckoo-dove by AryKun Heptamegacanthus by Mattximus List of talpids by PresN List of birds of New Brunswick by B3251 List of forest-inventory conifers in Canada by Dank Dissoderma odoratum by NotAGenious Xiphodon by PrimalMustelid Banana by Chiswick Chap Phintella parva by Simongraham Evarcha maculata by Simongraham Asian elephant by Wolverine XI Megafauna by Wolverine XI Fishing cat by Wolverine XI Thistle tortoise beetle by Justinxuje Enchylium limosum by Xkalponik Enchylium polycarpon by Xkalponik Skeleton panda sea squirt by Chaotic Enby Hypericum aciferum by Fritzmann2002 Hypericum russeggeri by Fritzmann2002 Hypericum minutum by Fritzmann2002 Chrompodellid by Snoteleks Aquilegia sibirica by Pbritti Carabus japonicus by NHanselman Charles De Geer by Yakikaki Cheetah reintroduction in India by Magentic Manifestations

News at a glance

The newsletter will not be returning to a monthly format (mainly because the author is busy failing every exam imaginable) and is on a bimonthly schedule for the foreseeable future.
The second round of the WikiCup was very competitive, requiring the highest points total to advance since 2014. Two TOL editors, AryKun and Fritzmann2002, advanced to the third round.
The March edition of our monthly rolling contest was won by simongraham, who amassed 118 points from 21 articles on various species of jumping spider; in second place was Quetzal1964 with 109 points from 53 articles on marine ray-finned fish.
Quetzal1964 and simongraham were also the top two in the April edition, although Quetzal was ahead this time, with 68 points to simongraham's 48. In the annual leaderboard, Quetzal and simongraham are in first and second place respectively, with 291 and 246 points; in third place is Snotoleks, with 76 points.

March DYKs

... that an Indian rhinoceros, sent as a gift to Pope Leo X in 1515, was immortalised as Dürer's Rhinoceros after dying in a shipwreck? (1 March)
... that due to a misunderstanding, Catodontherium was moved from its original genus name? (3 March)
... that a malaria-control program in rural Brazil attracted droves of annoying, colorful bees that collect pesticide (example pictured) into homes? (4 March)
... that popular garden plants like malfurada often escape from cultivation and become invasive? (5 March)
... that the cherry blossom was used symbolically in Japanese World War II propaganda, with falling petals representing "young soldiers' sacrifice for the emperor"? (8 March)
... that off-roading at Muriwai Beach in New Zealand may be damaging the habitat of the newly described korowai gecko (example pictured)? (9 March)
... that Will Smith took part in the expedition that discovered the northern green anaconda? (13 March)
... that the Kīlauea lava cricket disappears from a lava field as soon as any plants start to grow there? (13 March)
... that Julian Assange's lawyer argued that the rules set by the Ecuadorian embassy requiring Assange to take care of his pet cat Michi were "denigrating"? (13 March)
... that mule deer sometimes prefer the flavor of one Rocky Mountain juniper tree, like "ice cream", over another? (21 March)
... that the skeleton panda sea squirt was known on the Internet for its skeleton-like appearance years before its formal description? (26 March)
... that only one fruit but several thousand seeds were known when Allenbya collinsonae was named? (26 March)
... that while named for alliums, the fossil Paleoallium (pictured) was not necessarily directly related to any allium species? (27 March)
... that the extinct genus Mixtotherium, meaning 'mixed beast', has traits of both extinct primates and hyraxes? (28 March)
... that the fossil fern Dickwhitea was described from a single block of chert? (28 March)
... that Scytalopus krabbei is named after Niels Krabbe, who discovered seven other species in its genus? (29 March)
... that Institutiones rei herbariae, published in 1700, sought to give a unique name to every plant based on their "essence"? (29 March)
... that in some rare cases, large Siberian tigers prey on adult brown bears? (30 March)
... that only six years after its 2016 discovery, the Meratus blue flycatcher (pictured) was found being sold in Indonesian songbird markets? (30 March)
... that the spirit liverwort is called such because of its proximity to the Māori afterlife? (31 March)
... that cultures of the fungus Lentinus brumalis have been flown on three different satellites? (31 March)
... that the English herbalist Nicholas Culpeper claimed that eating alkanet leaves would make a person's spit deadly to serpents? (31 March)

Eufriesea purpurata
Korowai gecko
Paleoallium billgenseli fossil
Male Meratus blue flycatcher

April DYKs

... that despite its name meaning 'unscented', Hypericum × inodorum can smell strongly of goat? (1 April)
... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future? (2 April)
... that Pep the dog was falsely accused of murdering a cat and sent to Eastern State Penitentiary? (2 April)
... that an extinct French scarab beetle was discovered in a Prague factory? (3 April)
... that the white-tailed jay (example pictured) found in Ecuador and Peru was once thought to have been brought to Mexico by pre-Columbian trade? (5 April)
... that saving the Guadalupe cypress included the help of 40 Judas goats? (5 April)
... that the fork-tailed drongo gives genuine alarm calls but will sometimes lie to steal food from other animals? (5 April)
... that Bangiales, an order of red algae, contains both the oldest-known sexually reproducing organism and the seaweed used to make sushi wrappers? (7 April)
... that beavers, mules, and dogs have been parachuted from airplanes? (8 April)
... that Aphaena submaculata (pictured) uses specialized mouthparts to suck the sap of trees? (8 April)
... that female Eriopis connexa beetles prevent sibling cannibalism by laying unfertilized eggs? (9 April)
... that Androsaemum androsaemum is botanically unacceptable, but Aniculus aniculus is perfectly valid? (9 April)
... that there is one male for every 31 females in an E. interjectus colony, and each female can start its own colony? (10 April)
... that the first extant deer discovered in the 21st century is only 38 centimetres (15 in) tall? (10 April)
... that Buellia aethalea, a species of fungus, is also known as the "darkened button lichen" due to the small black spots on its crusty grey surface? (14 April)
... that despite commonly being caught with a hook and line, the holotype of the Rapa Nui lizardfish was instead collected with a spear? (14 April)
... that ochrophyte algae have twice as many membranes around their chloroplasts as plants? (16 April)
... that while the lichen species Enchylium conglomeratum is considered secure globally, it has been designated as extinct in the UK and regionally extinct in Switzerland? (18 April)
... that Cladonota's extravagant dorsal structures have been called both "grotesque" and "particularly charismatic"? (19 April)
... that the damselfly-relative Okanagrion is suggested to have eight species due to both alpha and beta diversity drivers? (21 April)
... that trees of the extinct genus Calamophyton (example pictured) formed the earliest known forest? (22 April)
... that the color of a black-headed tailorbird's throat was thought to depend on sex, but later turned out to depend on age? (23 April)
... that Biodiversity Impact Credits seek to stop species extinction? (30 April)

Artist's impression of a ray cat
White-tailed jay
Aphaena submaculata
Calamophyton tree

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Question about revert

Hello @Epipelagic! I was wondering if you could help me better understand the revert you did on one of my edits. I added the food infobox there because it seems like other articles that are about a food item have it—I don't really understand why my adding it to that page was incorrect. Thank you! —Kittycataclysm (talk) 22:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

{{Infobox food}} is not designed to be used in an article like Fish as food, which is a overview article about the different fish species and fish groups, world wide, that are used as food. Instead, the food infobox is designed to provide information about specific culinary dishes, like chicken Kiev . The infobox is used mainly to provide information, like nutritional information, about one specific dish. It is not flexible enough to offer useful information about fish nutritional in general. The one useful additional information that you found you could offer in the infobox was a link to a Wikimedia Commons category about fish as food. That link had already been added to the article in a more appropriate place, the external links section. Regards – Epipelagic (talk) 04:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Got it—thank you! I will try to make sure my use of that infobox is more appropriately tailored. If you have concerns about any of my edits, please let me know on my talk page. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (talk) 03:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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HMNZS Kiwi (T102)

In NZ English, is it "mentioned in despatches" or "dispatches"? I chose the British spelling in my edit as more likely than the US one, but defer to you.

Yes, I too am a Drachinifel fan. Narky Blert (talk) 16:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello Narky. It seems despatches and dispatches are used about equally in the context of the NZ military – I don't think it matters which you use. Yes, I certainly value Drachinifel's videos, though he can be combative and puts Misplaced Pages editors down. Drachinifel would be more impressive if he sometimes improved Misplaced Pages where he knows it needs improvement, like the superb Rif Winfield. — Epipelagic (talk) 05:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind praise. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, both "despatch" and "dispatch" are acceptable alternative spellings for the same word. Rif Winfield (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

People who grumble about Misplaced Pages when they have the knowledge - and sources - to improve it annoy the bejasus out of me too. Narky Blert (talk) 13:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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Re: Brain microbiome

Thanks for the update. In other news, the painting of a wooded path in autumn on your user page reminded me that I took several photos of a similar scene in California earlier this year that I never uploaded. Viriditas (talk) 09:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

The thing that I immediately took away from H. A. Brendekilde is that he is painting real things, not imagined scenes. The wooded path in autumn painting matches my own experience on the other side of the world. I know for sure that it's a real place as he captured it perfectly. Viriditas (talk) 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Yep, there's a visceral quality to that painting, an immediacy and presence that reminds me also of much younger years, surfing inside the curl of large surf waves. — Epipelagic (talk) 07:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Typo on your user page

Greetings and felicitations. Please pardon me, but on your user page "Balantine Books" should be "Ballantine Books". —DocWatson42 (talk) 22:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks — Epipelagic (talk) 07:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 07:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)