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			Thanks for trimming the promos at ]. I've been removing promotional cruft from articles for a while, and occasionally have pushback . I'd like to take this whole "promo and rankings in US city articles" to an RfC like ]. Cheers. ] (]) 11:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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			== ] ==
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			Is this company likely to pass ]? If yes, I'd remove the old tags. If not, I'd send it to ]. Please ping me either way. ] (]) 00:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
	I am currently editing the Acrylicize page to update facts that are now out-of-date. It is not disruptive editing. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:There is no problem with updating verifiable facts. The disruptive editing comes when you add puffery like "the collective combine a unique fusion of art and design to create truly engaging interior experiences". . . ] (]) 16:33, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
			== Golfist... ==
	Thank you for removing the buzzword tag. Any thoughts on removing the other promotional copy tag?
	] (]) 17:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
			...is not a word. Please use common English, i.e. "golfer". Thanks. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 21:05, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
	I am glad you looked at the ] page, thank you. I tried to address the buzzword tag in the purpose section, and would like any additional insight into what is prompting the tag. On the Peacock tag I am not sure what to do or why it is there. It is the board-approved aspiration of the organization. I think it's comparable to the "Overall Focus" section in the ] page, the second paragraph of the ] page, and the vision section of the ]. Changing the wording in the Vision section would make it incorrect -- is deleting the entire section the only way to get the Peacock tag removed?] (]) 21:40, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
			:Or "professional golfer" when appropriate. In some contexts, any such descriptor is unnecessary and can simply be removed. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 21:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
			== External links ==
	North Hennepin Community College Site...I agree completely that our college website was too promotional, and I see that all of that has been removed. I don't have an issue with that. What I'm wondering is how to go about removing the big banner declaring that the site appears to be promotional. I don't know what would still be flagging that...ours (as edited) seems less promotional than other college sites out there. Can you either remove the banner or advise me how to make that hsppen? Thanks
	:It doesn't look very promotional now: I've removed the tag. . . ] (]) 17:02, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
			Links to official websites are appropriate per ]/] ({{tq|"Misplaced Pages articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site"}}. Please stop removing them from External Links sections. Thank you. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 00:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Mean as Custard, you continually revert my edits to the page Brickell CitiCentre. The first instance I agree with. I should have proofed the text I was using to comply with wikipedia guidelines. The second had no merit. Do you know the project at all? Are you in Miami? I find it hard to understand that reverting back to misinformation benefits wikipedia or the public whatsoever. My attempt isn't to sell or promote anything, its to get accurate information to the public. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I do not need to know the project to know your changes were promtional and unreferenced: - "spacious floorplans, impeccable detailing, and impressive views" - "never before seen features of innovation and sustainability". . . ] (]) 16:52, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
			I saw you took a shot at editing this stub. I don't see how it's notable. If you nominate it for deletion, please ping me. ] (]) 02:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
	Hello Mean as Mustard,
	I see that you've flagged some influence I've had on the Edutopia page as having an "advertising tone." I didn't realize that linking to all social media and writing about the founders using only the official site was a conflict of interest, but can see how it could seem promotional and the offending posts have been taken down. Would you please remove the flag?
	Best,
	Stephanie <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:57, 7 February 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Hi, thank you for your response to my page bradleybrennan1. Please help me understand why a link to find automotive repair shops does not belong in an automotive repair shop article. Doesn't it seem logical that someone looking for "automotive repair shop" in a search engine, who stumbles upon the Misplaced Pages article, would in fact be looking for an automotive repair shop? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:57, 11 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Well, apart from being flagged up by my anti-virus software, the site is promotional and appears only to relate to US providers. See ]. . . ] (]) 12:03, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Hi, I saw you took a shot at the updates I made about ] The updates are based on actual facts
	Hi, please could you help us understand why the content has been disapproved?
			which is described in the . All users of Misplaced Pages have the right to know actual data i.e. the story of company, number of employees, revenue, so that they decide whether to join it as employee or buy its products or make career decisions. All MNC's already show such information. write to me in my talk page if you have any concerns on any paragraph. I have removed some of them for you. Please let it be there.
	You have stated- (revert to less blatantly promotional version). All our content has been proofed with correct citations. We see no reason for the content to be disapproved.
	Regards,
	Khyati Shah
	Marketing & Corporate Communication.
	YES BANK LTD. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Because it reeads like an advertisement, not an encyclopedia article:
	:*"Mr. Ashok Kapur and Dr Rana Kapoor have brought their international banking experience to India giving the YES BANK customers a Delightful Banking Experience"
	:Read ] and ]. . . ] (]) 11:57, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
			] (]) 02:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Hi, please restore the Passport Canada page to the form we have suggested. We understand the guidelines on the use of Misplaced Pages, but the suggested version fix erroneous information and add up-to-date information to the page. Please let us know exactly which passages infringe Misplaced Pages's soapbox rule. Thank you, --] (]) 19:48, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
	:No. Your revision fails multiple Misplaced Pages guidelines on references, internal links, external links, conflict of interest, advertising, etc. I suggest you confine your editing to fixing specific errors, citing reliable independent references as confirmation. . . ] (]) 20:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)		:User warned for adding promotional material to Misplaced Pages. . . ] (]) 12:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
			== February 2021 ==
	Hi. First of all, if I was not supposed to edit this page, I am sorry but I couldn't figure out how to get back. Now, you deleted my external link to a valid site for Bangalore which is related to the city. I very well know about nofollow in Misplaced Pages and am not trying to advertise. I don't like spam myself and if I am suggesting a link to a valid site I don't think that can be counted as spam. I would like to know if you even checked the link to see if it is valid or not. Thanks.] (]) 13:16, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
	:Yes I checked the link and it was clearly a commercial, promotional site. . . ] (]) 13:29, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
	::Yes, promoting Bangalore - the city this page is for! I am not promoting any other product as you can see from the site. Can you please tell me which sites can be added as 'external links' as even some government sites carry ads? Thanks. ] (]) 15:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
			] Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you recently removed content from ]&nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate ]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your ]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> ] (]) 16:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
	Hi,
	I am confused as to why my recent edit in the "References in Popular Culture" ] was reverted. Could you please explain? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:It was unreferenced and only peripherally relevant, not to mention being in dubious taste. . . ] (]) 16:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
			] Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you recently removed content from ]&nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate ]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your ]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> ] (]) 16:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
	I can provide reference. However, a viral video recognized in an annual "Worst of" (essentially a "Best of") compilation by Ebaum's World (which itself has a rather lengthy page here) ''should'' be considered as a "popular reference". The "dubious taste" characterization is offensive to the nature of an unbiased encyclopedia and especially inappropriate considering the far more explicit images and topics covered on Misplaced Pages... <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:40, 22 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== Conklin Center ==
			Hi! Just courtesy heads up that I this as I think there's enough to at least warrant an AfD. ] 00:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
	Hi
	Would you please refer me a published sample page as described a "brandname" that indicate A7 importance ?
	I want to edit my page according to the real example.
	Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:08, 22 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== Heads Up: Vandal Patrol ==
	Hi,
			Hey {{Ping|Mean as custard}} just a heads up, in the persons talk page ], you need to make a new section, please and thank you.
	I have tried numerous times the edit 'The Hydro' page on here - there is factually incorrect information listed (which can be checked against the venue's website) and the image is not only not representative of the current build progress, it is poor quality and does not do it justice.
			:I don't understand what you mean. . . ] (]) 21:16, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Who can I speak to about this?
	Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Your past edits have been full of marketing hype - "The Hydro will be a truly iconic structure". . . If you stick to verifiable facts then there shouldn't be a problem. . . ] (]) 15:41, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
			Just a quick head's up, I declined the speedy you put on this article and sent it off to AfD. I have a feeling if I deleted it, it would just come back again for the reasons I expressed at AfD, and therefore I want a documented discussion to get rid of it. ] ] ] 11:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
			== AImotive ==
	Hello,
	You removed the link i added to the new forest reference an article on red deer, you did not actually visit the link to read the article so i don't know how you deemed it innappropriate. the article is informative and is not linked in anway to a product/service etc. The information in the article is not something covered else where on the net. (] (]) 09:57, 16 October 2012 (UTC))		Hi – you added an advertising flag to the ] page back in 2019. I've just done a major edit. It would be great if you could check the page sometime, and flag anything else that needs to be changed in your opinion to remove the promotional tag. Many thanks! --] (]) 11:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
	:I removed the link because it was chiefly about the red deer, not about the New Forest, which is the subject of the Misplaced Pages article. . . ] (]) 10:00, 16 October 2012 (UTC)		:It looks better now so I have removed the Advert tag, although there seems to be an excessive number of references in places. . .] (]) 14:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
			::To be honest, I haven't got round to cleaning up the references yet. Will do so sometime in the coming weeks. Thank you for the feedback. --] (]) 10:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
			== Justiyaya ==
			Just wanted to say thanks for your recent Kathy Taylor edits :)
			] (]) 10:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
			== LoopUp ==
			Hi Mean as a custard,
			I appreciate your contribution on the LoopUp article however your edits took out the main offering that the company now offers - Direct routing for Microsoft Teams. If you checked the website and newsroom you would see that the content on the page was at least up to date. If you are not going to let me update the content as you find it too promotional can you at least make sure that what your edits don't make the article completely outdated and irrelevant!?
			] (]) 15:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
			==]==
	Hello Custard,
			Hello, Mean as custard,
			Please make sure when you do a big revert to an earlier version of an article, that there haven't been valid changes made since that earlier version was done. In this case, categories had been altered to correct ones and your revert put back nonexistent, red link categories. If, in the future, you could just look over the page and fix any problems like this that appear before moving on to the next article, it would be appreciated. Thank you! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 19:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
	I noticed you re-worked what we did with Popcaan's wikipedia page. We made changes because things were incorrect information including the spelling of his name. I am working officially with the deejay and we are posting correct information, especially for International purposes. I have added a number of important achievements, references for overseas press and a section for music videos. We are asking to please not infer with the changes made.
			== ] COI edit requests ==
	Thank you, it is much appreciated. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:27, 15 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Hi! Reaching out because I saw you've been involved in updating ] in the past. I've posted some ] on the talk page there. If you have time, would love your feedback. Thank you! ] (]) 20:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			You didn't like the tone of ] and therefore erased, essentially, all of it. If you don't like some of the content, please be judicious and just erase what you find objectionable. I didn't write the article. I was just a contributor. But I appreciate that people who are looking up the university will be interested in more than just a stub. ] (]) 12:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
			:The content I removed was unreferenced and wholly promotional in tone. . .] (]) 17:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Hey would you mind looking at ]. I tried cleaning up the article but it still contains a lot of unsourced material. I am not sure if it’s all right to remove all unsourced material as it might degrade the quality of the article. Thanks ] (]) 15:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Hi M a c,
			Thank you for trimming Castronovo Chocolate. The references were from bogus anduntrustworthy sources such as New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Zagat. Pat yourself on the back. You should feel proud of yourself. Another editor noted after you that no sources exist... well, of course they don't after your good work. The only disappointment is you didn't delete the whole article.
			:The problem was one of promotional tone, not of sources. . .] (]) 07:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
			== Promo cuts to Alpha Sigma Tau ==
	Twice you have deleted information related to the work related to the Poppy Appeal on the Buckley Jewellery page. I am requesting that you could please let us keep the paragraph that mentions the poppy brooches that we produce for the RBL in order to help them raise funds (which we do at no profit of our own). Whilst you might consider it to be trivial, for us it is important to have the information readily available, as during previous poppy campaigns there have been many articles and enquiries from large areas of the national press in Britain, and we therefore do not wish to be misinterpreted or misrcredited in the press again in 2012. It is important for this information to be on the page during October when the Poppy Appeal is in full flow, and was the crux for making the wiki page. Our company page does not rank highly when searching for information about the poppies, hence our desire to have this information available on wiki. I hope you can see the sense in this, and I do genuinely believe it to be a cause noteworthy enough to warrant a mention anyway. We have now raised several million pounds for the RBL through our hard work, and this week poppies have been requested by Buckingham Palace so we are expecting more press attention.
			Good afternoon, Mean.
	Thanks and regards.
			I'm generally onboard with reduction of promotional material in articles, and ''cruft'' (great word for it). My areas of editing work focus on the Fraternities and Sororities Project, and various collegiate articles. Lots of cruft to work with there. But also woeful stubs that need expansion.
	] (]) 09:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
	:The problem as I see it is that the work related to the Poppy Appeal takes up a disproportionate part of the article, and could be seen as promotional. It would be acceptable as a footnote to a substantial article, but there is very little material to tell us anything about the company itself. That should be the priority before any sideline activities are covered . . ] (]) 09:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
			Regarding the very sharp scythe you took to the ] article, I think you cut too much. While toss-off sentences like ''"Alpha Sigma Tau provides women with the skills, community, and empowerment needed to excel in life."'' are clearly "yada-yada" filler, and add no encyclopedic value, I thought the sections listing values and traditions were OK, as was inclusion of their Creed. While all such groups have a creed, citing it here is useful for non-members to understand the sorority's brand and its differentiation. --Not just for ''branding'' in a promotional sense. I would make a clear distinction between the two (promotion versus clarification). Stated a different way, I don't have a problem with company articles that note their mission statement or animating values: Inclusion helps ''their people'' focus, and helps ''outsiders'' hold them accountable because of the clarity these words provide.
			I assume you deleted the symbols section because some of the items were duplicated in the infobox. My sense of other F&S articles is that the infobox summarizes and that a symbols and traditions section is allowable, and may have a sentence or two of dialog and supporting references. At least that is how hundreds and hundreds of other articles have it.
	Ms Custard, you are welcome ] (]) 16:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
			Further, I find the listing and short descriptions of programs for health and safety issues, which you cut, to be valuable, especially in differentiating this program benefit among other women's groups. These aren't just marketing screed; rather, these items are important to participants and their parents. (Speaking as an outside observer, sorority women tend to have a higher skew awareness and responsiveness to these points. I note this even though these items aren't personally important to me. I hope I'm clear.)
	Hi, I have been trying to add a link to www.wholestorynews.com in the news aggregator page. This site is a news aggregator with a s. I have also tried to create an individual page for it and that has also been rejected. I dont know why I'm not allowed to put anything about this site on wiki, its not inappropriate in any way. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:You will need to show that the site is ] before your changes will be accepted by other editors. Having a strong cult following in Belfast is trivial when you are trying to associate the site with news aggregators which have a global following. . . ] (]) 13:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
			For sure, the sections blathering on about "Lifelong friendships", "Vast network", "Giving back", clearly are more cruft, and I support those deletions, too.
	Hello Mr Custard,
	Regarding the Nielsen page, we're updating a page that is terribly out of date and has not been edited for over 2 years. The revisions are not promotional. They are simply getting the content in line with the current reality of how the company operates. We will go back through it again and remove any items that feel a bit promotional, but I think if you read this new text closely it is meant to be factual. Thank you.
	:Most of the changes consisted of unreferenced puffery such as "Nielsen's information, insights and solutions help clients. . . " ] (]) 16:06, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
			Have you considered a similar effort on the several very long, disjointed, promotional and nattering articles for the traditionally ]? Some of these have endless detail, going on for a hundred or more paragraphs. To be fair, there is far more promotional language in these, with kludgy language, grammar issues, often a non-encyclopedic tone, non-notable "notable members", lack of references, and themes that are severely over-weighted. The same criticism can be made of articles about the Ivy League schools, which drone on for paragraphs about insufferable details of their annual rankings and further detail about minor departments and initiatives. Gaaah. These are far more troubling to me.
	Hello Mr Custard, <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			I really appreciate your work. We may have a slight difference of opinion on this issue. I remain an ''Inclusionist'' rather than a ''Deletionist'', to bring up the long-standing Misplaced Pages debate. I fully endorse the effort to cut non-encyclopedic junk and clearly biased, promotional material, but I do recognize that we do not have the same space limitations as a physical encyclopedia. Fair? Would you give my view here a review before I go back to the article and restore a couple of these items?
	We seem to have had a difference of opinion regarding my edits to the Bargoed and Gloucester entries. Apologies for the external link of one (pending Misplaced Pages entry) but the other deletion was Alun Hoddinott's page on Misplaced Pages. I'm sure he warranted the entry - CBE, Professor of Music at Cardiff, composed the fanfare for the wedding of Prince Charles and Camilla 2005. Likewise the entry for Justin Edwards - BBC television, Radio France, New Jazz Aliens' BBC Radio 1 single of the week, Ballet Rambert, S4C television, linked to Uriah Heap's Lee Kerslake, Tubeway Army's Ian Evans, Best Instrumentalist nomination in category with Eric Clapton, BB King, Herbie Hancock and Little Richard. Born in Gloucester 1966, living in Bargoed.
			You call yourself Mean, but I think you are just thorough. You are an important contributor to Misplaced Pages. For that, and a few moments of attention to this note, I thank you.
	All the best
	] (]) 20:44, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
			] (]) 17:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
	Re: FW Lexicons
			== April 2021 ==
	I have added the most recent and very useful FW Lexicons which have been edited by the University of Bucharest this year.
	They are a VERY valuable scientific resource for FW researchers.
	Universitate UB
	13 Sept 2012 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:12, 13 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Maybe; I won't remove the links this time, but suspect they won't last long before someone else removes them. . . ] (]) 21:07, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
			] Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you recently removed content from ]&nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate ]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your ]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> ] (]) 15:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
	== Hello Mean as custard - Re: Giving Libary links ==
	Dear Mean as custard,
			== Yukari Films ==
	Today you deleted my external links to the Giving Library. As a representative of the Giving Library, I do believe that these links add value.
			You recently placed an Advert template onto this page, however, you did not provide any feedback or reason why. It is not written in a promotional tone. The subject meets the wiki guidelines and has both industry impact, as well as positive peer reviews - which are all documented with reliable citations. Additionally, you placed a Verifiability template on the page also, which makes no sense as none of the citations are close to the source whatsoever. I would appreciate an explanation of these actions so that the article can be improved upon, or ask to please remove the complaints.] (]) 08:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
	The links on each organziation's Misplaced Pages page are designed to provide information on that organization, as well as give information on how people can be a part of the organization.
			:If the article referred to is ], only the Advert template was mine, but I agree with whoever added the other two templates. The article consists mainly of unreferenced positive reviews and lists of alleged awards, and overall the tone is highly promotional. . . ] (]) 11:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
			== Editor of the Week ==
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			|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 2px solid lightgray" |Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as ] in recognition of your constant removal of advertising. Thank you for the great contributions! <span style="color:#a0a2a5">(courtesy of the ])</span>
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			] submitted the following nomination for ]:
			:I nominate Editor Mean as custard to be Editor of the Week for their tireless work in removing promotional content from Misplaced Pages. Editor of the Week celebrates Misplaced Pages editors who are making significant contribution to the health and welfare of Misplaced Pages. For the last twelve, count 'em, twelve years, Mean as custard has worked practically daily at this task with laser focus and incredible patience. Mean as custard's dedication has led to 175K edits with a commendable 73% in mainspace. Intervening against vandalism and improper usernames is also a duty ''Mean'' has taken on. Without editors like this, working behind the scenes, the encyclopedia would be in a sorry state indeed. Let his efforts be bare of our appreciation no longer. ] seconded this nomination.
			You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:
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			Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213;]&nbsp;] 19:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
			== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
	Would you consider changing your position on the value these Giving Library links add to each organization's Misplaced Pages page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			<div class="afd-notice">
	:No. ] (]) 20:55, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ''']''' is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or whether it should be ].
			The article will be discussed at ] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
	== Hi Mean as custard ==
			Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
	You deleted a link I added to the external links section of the Executive Education wikipedia page.
			<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> <span style="font-family: Times;">] (] • ])</span> 20:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
			== Assistance ==
	IEDP is a trusted, neutral, knowledgeable industry source on this subject. There is a massive amount of useful information on this link and anyone clicking on it is to no commercial gain of ours.
			Hello -- you keep flagging my edits as being promotional, but they are clearly written in objective prose.
	An external link that hasn't been deleted as spam is the Financial Times - executive education section. This is a link with very similar breadth and quality content as ourselves. Could explain please why this link is allowed to remain and ours is marked as spam?
			It would be nice to have your assistance in identifying what about my edits on Native Design in particular is having you flag the content. I will happily change so it can remain up. Thank you!
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	::Okay, thanks for the insight. I will look into making some edits ina draft during the course of the week and discuss with my team. However the page as it stands at the moment is unacceptable as it's incorrect.
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			Hi {{U|Mean as custard}}. I note a couple of mission statement deletions, etc., you recently provided. I've seen your solid editing before, and know these were offered in good faith. I would challenge them though, as these points are factual and do not generally tend to excessive puffery or bloat. That said, I would firmly agree with you that some of these Greek Letter Organization pages indeed do have such peacock language. I too, police such body text often. I also cut sections of really long mission statements for the purpose of summary statements.
	::::Thanks for your input. Contrary to your message, I understand (perhaps not fully) and in the absence of accurate or any information at all it remains our responsibility to provide correct, impartial and unbiased information as you said. In light of your last change I have removed most of the content that I believe although unbiased falls within a gray area. May I draw your attention to ]'s page here on Wikipdeia. The page touches on the company's history, location, power generation (in our case Smart Metering), corporate affairs, recognition, see also (although not as extensive as ours) etc. As the GE page remains untouched I have used this amongst other articles here on Misplaced Pages as a guideline for our article. The images that I have used are no different to those of GE's ''Gauges of locomotive at the Saskatchewan Railway Museum''. Furthermore, almost every remaining paragraph has an external verifiable external link and reference. GE introduces terminology that I believe falls into the gray area, i.e. ''GE's long history of working with turbines in the power-generation field gave them the engineering '''know-how''' to move into...''. The use of the term ''solution'' in our article is not used in trying to promote ourselves but rather it is the name of the product hence the image that is provided to depict this. It is a known terminology within ] industry and I believe it would be of interest to readers to know what instruments are combined to formulate what is deemed a smart metering/smart energy solution. Having said this, as I have said earlier, I have removed the possible content in the gray area and will continue to work on improving the article gradually. I am happy to get any pointers from you on the specific terminology and I can also explain to you how it is relevant in the smart metering and energy measurement and management area. Perhaps you may also want to read the 'see also' links that are provided to the various pages here on Misplaced Pages to learn more about the various topics raised in this article. Thanks once again for your input. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			We ought not be haphazard in these. If you want to argue that omitting mission statements, vision, pillars, etc., should merit a change to our standard infobox template (and these, from the body text that generally informs the infoboxes), fine. Take it up as a discussion point on the template Talk page. Let's determine consensus first.
	:::::You still don't get it.
	:::::The latest changes all still sound as though they were written by the corporate PR department, and not by an impartial observer:
	::::::"one of the top three leading providers of integrated Energy Management Solutions tailored to company needs"
	::::::"paving the way for the next generation"
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	::::::"aptly named the Gridstream™ suite"
	::::::"The company’s acquisition by Toshiba has presented it as a truly global smart grid company"
	::::::"Local authorities in France honored the suc-cess of Landis+Gyr"
	::::::etc. . .
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	::::::May you please refrain from saying I don't get it. Just because we differ on arguments (hence the talk function) doesn't warrant that kind of tone. I put it to you that it is you that may not grasp the notion of smart metering with reference to the various main players in this field in general. I gave you specific reference to GE's pages and I invite you to tell me what the difference between the sub-headings on this article and that on GE are. I registered under my name and have been making edits under my own name. With regards to the point you identified these are clearly referenced externally.
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	::::::"Landis+Gyr has a portfolio offering end-to-end..." (this was only included to tone down the use of the term 'solution' which I already pointed out makes up part of a trademarked term Gridstream Solution)
	::::::"aptly named the Gridstream™ suite" the term ] is widely used on Misplaced Pages and in this context it is used to identify the collection of items that make up Gridstream. Agian I fail to see how this is inappropriate.
	::::::"The company’s acquisition by Toshiba has presented it as a truly global smart grid company" - again this is a referenced sentence as it was taken out of third party material. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/23/idUS315377614920110523).
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	::::::::While I fully acknowledge your experience of how Misplaced Pages works, I also don't believe that Misplaced Pages advocates for the promotion of false information neither as is set out in the page that you keep reverting back to. I have made changes in this page you have reverted back to and have reused the content that is in that page but set the record straight regarding such items as Cameron O'Reily and his implied involvement with the company presently. That is part of the ''history'' and not the focus of the whole article as the reverted article tries to portray. The article you had reverted to also mentions a subheading called ''products''. I have removed this as not only does it include peacock terminology, I believe it doesn't reflect the subject of products accurately. I am happy to improve on the article going forward if you believe there are areas that need improving. What I am against is the arbitrary reverting to an old version that is completely incorrect in its current format (hence the minor rearranging that I have done to the text and expansion of some areas i.e. acquisitions). I am noting this as any individual that may have knowledge of Landis+Gyr and not merely making a promotion.
	::::::::While I welcome the idea of further familiarizing myself with other aspects of Misplaced Pages as suggested, I put it to you that the suggested topics in your response interest me. In particular with reference to ], contrary to what my username may suggest, I am '''NOT''' Tanzanian thus I have no knowledge nor interest in improving this article. May I put it on record that I find it offensive if that's what your suggestion was implying. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->		Hi, I have removed a number of items that may have read as advertising from this page that you placed a flag on: https://en.wikipedia.org/UNICOM_Global. Please let me know if this is sufficient and if the flag can be removed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			*"delivers software, services, and solutions to Fortune 500 and Global 2000 companies" is still marketing-speak. . .] (]) 19:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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			*It still contains multiple references to "solutions", which is a word found frequently in advertisements and rarely in unbiased encyclopedia articles. . . ] (]) 22:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
			*:Hi I have removed all references to 'solutions' -- as you pointed out via the buzzword note -- thank you for doing that it made it easy to find them. I believe the "Contains content written like and advertisement" flag can now be removed. ] (]) 02:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
			Hi -- I just removed all such references to 'solutions' -- as you pointed out via the buzzword note -- thank you for doing that it made it easy to find them. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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			:::There is explicitly a field for it in the infobox, so I don't think your editing is in line with current practice. Please keep culling the spamvertorial content as you are doing, but I think the URLs are fine since I believe they're all ] <span style="font-family:Calibri; font-weight:bold;">] ]</span> 18:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
			:::: For the "External links" section I agree that there is often too many links but would suggest that having the company URL there via the template <nowiki>{{Official URL}}</nowiki> would be reasonable even if the other links were removed.] (]) 01:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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	I see that your PROD on ] has been contested by the author of the article, a clear COI SPA now blocked. You may like to take it to AfD. ] (]) 11:16, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
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			Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.{{efn|The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.}}
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	I added info to the Black Diamond Equipment page - if anything appears too soap-box like, please let me know, but everything is factual info. There was also a discrepancy between information that was on the page related to Black Diamond Inc., which is not the same as Black Diamond Equipment. Thanks for your help!
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	:The problem is that the changes were very promotional in tone, and no individual references were cited. For example, it may well be true that "Black Diamond is a company comprised of passionate climbers and skiers, and the company takes pride in its rich employee culture", but without a reference to an independent source confirming this, it will just be considered as marketing hype. . . ] (]) 18:24, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
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	So will edits with references to the Black Diamond website be accepted provided that they are factual? Many of the company's historical and product-related history is only found there...Thanks.
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	And also, there are things I removed from the page due to the fact that they are referencing Black Diamond, Inc., which is the parent company of Black Diamond Equipment - should have its own page for much of that info. Thanks.
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	:I think ] ought to provide some of the answers. Factual historical information from the Black Diamond website should be fine, but information which might otherwise be interpreted as promotional (such as company culture, philanthropy and awards) should be sourced from independent, unbiased references. I also suggest you change your username as names which appear to represent organizations rather than individuals are not allowed on Misplaced Pages. . ] (]) 19:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
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	Thanks for the help. I have submitted a request for username change and have cleaned up the info with references. Awards and philanthropy sections are linked to Black Diamond website, as linking each individual award/group supported would get a little excessive. Thanks again. (] (]) 19:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC))
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	:Don't worry, I've weeded out the worst of the promotional material. . . ] (]) 16:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
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			Hello. You have recently removed the projects section from ] as an advert. How can I modify this list of projects that have used the Berkeley Open Infrastructure to be more inline with expectations and the receptacle of historical information that I want it to be?
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			:Instead of listing every single project, you could include a few examples if they are written with non-promotional language and have independent references to show their notability. . .] (]) 17:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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	I am requesting that he be blocked, or if you can lead me somewhere where I can request protection to the page, or have other editors place more inpartial information that willl help solidify its integrity.
			Hi Mean as Custard. You recently edited the ] page to remove external links and now our "significant projects" list is gone. There were ten projects listed that linked to external sources. Do you remember deleted the list and why? Thanks. ] (]) 20:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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	:Seconding this - thanks for all the hard work you've been doing in this area! Also, when you tag a page for deletion, would you consider tagging the talk page of the user who created it with {{tls|db-spam-notice}} or something similar? If the users are warned about what they did wrong then some of them might just turn into productive contributors. (And if they don't, the warning will at least give them some idea of what they did wrong.) Best — ''''']''''' <sup>(])</sup> 14:23, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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	Hi. I noticed you reverted my to the ] article in which I restored the unit order to metric first, as per the ] guidelines; could you advise me as to the reason for the reversion?
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	WP:UNITS advises that the primary unit in a UK-related, non-scientific article is generally a metric unit except for road distances and speeds, personal height and weight measurement, and a few other exceptions.
			== Addiko Bank ==
	Also, I use the term "restored" as the unit order of the article in question was originally metric first and had been for several years, but was ; at the same time, he/she had had been removing American English spellings from the article, so it is possible that he/she mistakenly assumed that UK articles always use imperial units first. ] (]) 09:28, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
	:Because when Big Ben was built imperial units only were used; those given in the article are precise while the metric equivalents are only rounded approximations. . . ] (]) 09:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
			Hi Mean as custard,
	::It's true that Big Ben was (probably) designed using imperial units, but there's no connection between the imperial measurements now in the article and any measurements taken at time of construction; the original figures in the article were almost all metric (browse the code of the , in particular the <nowiki>{{convert}}</nowiki> tags) but were only three days ago by user ] with the derived rounded imperial figures &ndash; for reasons unknown.
			I am new to wikipedia and noticed that you were one of the editors of the addiko bank wiki page. Could you maybe have a look at the information? I believe it is very outdated, since the german version is very different and provides much more recent data. I am not qualified to make changes though, I think.
			If there is a proper way to request changes please let me know.
	::Browse back through the article's edit history and check for yourself. ] (]) 22:27, 30 August 2012 (UTC)		Many thanks :) ] (]) 14:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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	== Hi Mean as Custard. Re: Regarding tagging IIM Kashipur page as Ad. ==
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	Hello Mr Custard. Regarding IIM Kashipur page, we have removed the promotional content from the page and made it look neutral. The revisions made are not promotional in any manner. We have cited references where ever possible. We think if you read the content now you will feel it is factual. Please go through it and let us know your suggestions. Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Looks ok now. . . ] (]) 16:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
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			can you please explain the reason for removing '''all''' external links on 2023-02-06 on the ] article, including those of the main link to the product and the main link to the last version of documentation?
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			I look at competing products, and see there similar external links. ] (]) 18:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
	Cannot be reported ????
			:I am guided by ]. I did not remove the main link to the product in the infobox. . . ] (]) 20:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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	== Mark Pegg - Redirect ==
	Hi Mean as Custard
	Please reconsidere your revision of this page deletion. Citations have now bee added to the Mark Pegg (actor) page. It is misleading to have all "Mark Pegg" searches automatically forwarded to "Mark Gregory Pegg".
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	:It should be turned into a disambiguation page in that case. . . ] (]) 15:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
	== NIKK - Nordic Gender Institute ==
	Dear Mean as custard
	I have tried to change information on the closing of NIKK as a Nordic institution, but you have revered my changes three times without any motivation. It was stated that the reason was the TV documentary made by Harald Eia. But the researchers interviewed in the TV documentary was Norwegian researchers and they were not employed by NIKK. The reason for closing NIKK was to save administrative costs. The Nordic ministers of gender equality have also decided to reopen NIKK as a co-operative body. Thus, the work will be continued in another form.
	Here are some links on the decision of closing NIKK as an independent Nordic institution and the decision of the continuation as a co-operative body:
	Document of the decision (in Danish):
	Statement made by the Swedish Minister of Gender Equality (in Swedish):
	I would appreciate if you could reconsider your position.
	(] (]) 12:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC))
	:I have reinstated your additions, but the large section you removed remains, as it still appears relevant to the history of the organization. . . ] (]) 12:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
	How do you motivate that it is relevant? Your sources discuss the closing of the Norwegian gender research programme. There is not a single notion on NIKK. I am afraid you are mixing up the different processes.
	(] (]) 13:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC))
	:I don't say that it is relevant; only that you removed it without explaining why in the edit summary. . . ] (]) 13:59, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
	I did a mistake when I removed it the first time without an explanation. I apologize for that. But when I removed it with an explanation, you did not accept that either. Anyway, I think we have both learned something!
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	== Eat Smart, Move More, Weigh Less ==
	{{la|Eat Smart, Move More, Weigh Less}}<br>I could remove some of this; how much would ''you'' remove? -- ] (]) 21:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
	:I would remove the embedded external links and the list of lesson topics, but it would still read like an advert. . . ] (]) 06:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
	::Thanks, I'll give it go when I have time. -- ] (]) 07:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
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	== freightquote.com ==
	On 23 Aug you very correctly reverted the ] article to a less promotional version. On 27 Aug user "Freightquote" undid your revision without discussion. I have initiated discussion on the talk page. ] (]) 17:49, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
	:No discussion necessary. Reverted to less blatantly promotional version and reported ] to the tender mercies of the admins. . . ] (]) 18:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
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	Good afternoon Mean as Custard, I understand now your grounds for deleting my original submissions. This was my first stab at creating content on Misplaced Pages and now have a better understanding of why my content was flagged and subsequently discarded. It is my intention to produce a new version of the page here shortly that does not violate codes A7 and G11. If you would please continue to help us by checking it over and pushing it live we would appreciate it. We are a start-up company and new to this specific space so we are just getting our feet wet with the specific technology and nuances on this site. Thanks for your patience. ] (]) 18:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)Dan] (]) 18:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
	:You clearly have a ] with the subject. As the article stands there is scant evidence of ]. Suggest you forget it. . . ] (]) 18:45, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
	::Thanks for the prompt reply. We have reviewed the general notability guidelines and believe we do in fact fall within what is required based off the "significant coverage" proscription. Indeed we have received coverage from several secondary sources including Men's Health magazine, Thrillist, and Boston.com's finance page. Mirror is a new company with more coverage of our site to come over the next few months. In regards to conflict of interest, we have followed the best practices policy set forth by Misplaced Pages while maintaining a fair and more importantly neutral point of view. Thanks again for your time, insights, and instructions. ] (]) 19:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)Dan] (]) 19:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
	== Swain House Watchet ==
	Hi Mean as custard. It seems we got a bit mixed up with ] - my AfD nomination removed your CSD tag. I'd prefer this article to go through a proper deletion discussion, as the source I found seems to establish some significance, if not notability. If you really want to tag it I won't remove your tag, but I do think we should err on the side of caution in this case (especially as the article seemed to have been created in good faith). ] <sup>(] • ])</sup> 16:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
	:Fair enuff. AFD it is. . . ] (]) 16:40, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
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	Thanks for the comments. Went ahead and adjusted contents to be more neutral. Could you point out the external links suggestions? ] (]) 02:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)Glory4321
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	If you could re-instate these references, it'd be appreciated.
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	:It would need references to third-party sources, i.e. a publication unrelated to the magazine to show it is notable. . . ] (]) 15:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
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	Please explain to me why this is consider promotional when Sheratons, Westin and other corporate Hotels is not promotional?? The outline information are mere descriptive facts about the hotel just how Sheraton Westin coveys its brand as luxury Andatel conveys it's property as contemporary design; it's the matter of identifying types of hotel. None of what is written is subjective more so informative to whoever is interested in coming to patong in general. Just because this is not a well know and independent property does not mean it does not have history or interest in being in Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages clearly states in the upload section that no logos are accepted when the currently on many hotel corporations has it's logo presented on Misplaced Pages. I do not which to populate the site with promotional content and have tried my best to write this Andatel profile objectively and factually. This does not mean it is written to promote the site but to inform. We have a website that is already promotion the hotel, however would like to keep this page because being in Misplaced Pages matters. Being able to continue writing logs/history for the world claims the existence of this small property. If you still sees this as promotional that ban it, I will not abuse wikipedia concept and truely respect how the system works, it is great what wikipedia is doing. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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			== noakhali Zilla School ==
	thank you for your input but I am not using the page as a promotional page, rather as informational. There are facts on your page that are incorrect, specifically the date of birth.
			I didn't add any advertisement or promotional content.
	Please specifically point out what i need to change in order for you to stop reverting my information to your page, which has falsely stated information.
			You are requested to contact me 🟥 t.me/sphenZii ] (]) 14:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
			== noakhali Zilla School ==
	Thank you <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:54, 17 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:If you change things like date of birth you will need to provide a reference to back it up. You removed cited information and replaced it with uncited. And your user name suggest you are here for promotional purposes rather than to provide unbiased information. . . ] (]) 16:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
			please do mention where ive done the promotional context. 🙂 i would have been very much pleased if you knocked me on telegram.
			t.me/sphenZii ] (]) 15:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
	where is your reference for date of birth? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:16, 17 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Where is yours? . . ] (]) 17:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
			== Gelareh Abbasi ==
	We are Jose's agents and know his date of birth. He specifically asked that we edit the incorrect information on this site. I will be sure to use references when applicable. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Then you should definitely read ]. . . ] (]) 18:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
	::{{tps}} FYI I've reverted their edits again, blocked them and removed the unsourced DOB. ] (]) 17:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
			Hello. Why was the Misplaced Pages page for ] removed? She is one of Iran's most famous actresses, and her films have been shown all over the world. The page was loaded with links to sources. I have no idea how to save the page! Can you lend a hand? ] (]) 11:54, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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	I recently put a link to our program on "Weight Loss Camp" page. We as an organization are a weight loss camp, by definition. I am in the process of creating a Wiki page for WellBalance Camps, can I have the external link reinstated on the "Weight Loss Camp" page? Feel free to checkout our program at http://wellbalance.com
	We are in our third year and have three current camp locations. We have helped hundreds of families to lose weight not just in our summer camp settings, but long term.
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			::::And I disagree. If you can add it back, I will provide independent sources for anything I can and remove whatever I can't. ] (]) 16:14, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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	My latest update chronicling the period 2007 to 2009 may be a little longwinded and could be cut down/expressed differently but it is not trivia, is factually correct with references and is important and relevant in leading to where the company is today (i.e on the verge of bankruptcy but close to the conclusion of a court case arising out of a major purchase and fundraising in 2008).
			I reverted the wholly promotional crud that was recently added to ]. You can retag it for A7 if you feel it still meets the criteria.-- ]<sup>]</sup> 17:38, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
	The 2011 to present day section has stood since early September, the least I would expect is that you revert to this version (i.e. prior to my last major update) while I work on revamping my latest attempt into a more enclyclopedic entry, if that is what is required.
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	The company is a suspended, listed (ftse fledging) company, I think it's important that shareholders and the public generally have up to date infromation about it. Why do you see the new, albeit historical, sections as trivia?
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	:I think most people would agree that material like statements of the company share price on a week-to-week basis is definitely trivia. . . ] (]) 17:45, 27 October 2012 (UTC)		:Yeah, why bother to consider why I might have deleted the content? . . .] (]) 12:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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	I disagree. The opening statement in my new section stated that the shareprice had fallen from 474p in 2007 to 0.25p in 2011, extreme by anybodys standards, especially seeing as the company is still trading and apparently solvent. Each RNS and news item during that period had some effect. The visitors to this page will be looking for information on the company and have an interest in what caused the decline. I've deliberately stayed clear of expressing my views and just stuck to facts so that those visitors can draw their own conclusions. In the main they won't be just passing by, they'll be looking for information, and the SP at the time of the news release and subsequent to it is 100% relevant.
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	Custard, this is Avery Storm's mgmt... Why do you keep editing Avery's wiki page? Your info is outdated and incorrect. Please stop. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:50, 5 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:My edit summary said "revert to less promotional version". That pretty well covers it, but for more try reading ]. . . ] (]) 21:54, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
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			Hi ], you added the {Advert} tag to https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Libvirt&oldid=1091049546, but I don't understand why. Could you please review the page and reconsider the tag? Please explain your reasoning or remove the tag. Thanks. &mdash; ] (]) 19:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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	:In my opinion it is pure spam, i.e. very little of the article will remain after the promotional material has been removed, but an admin will decide. . . ] (]) 13:01, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
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	Hi, i think you were a bit overzealous on that article just so i have partially reverted the lede and removed the quote (which at second glance doesn't add much).
	Thanks for removing what you call advertising though, i was being detailed (maybe too much).
	I've tagged the article as under construction but if you see any other advertising-like sections then please reword them rather than removing them as there isn't much atm. Thanks and have a nice day/evening ''']<font color="purple">]</font> <sup>(])</sup>''' 12:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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	== Apple Records link ==
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			::Thanks for your revision. I have a background as a student at ]. Should this be considered a potential conflict of interest, I am willing to refrain from further edits on this page. ] (]) 19:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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	Please restore the link I added to the Apple Records page.
	Anyone interested in Apple Records will want to see images of the discs and sleeves as mentioned in the text.
	The Apple Records Worldwide Discography shows every Apple record issued around the world and as such is an exhaustive and authoritive website which will interest anyone who reads the Wiki page on this subject.
			Hi], thank you for your input. I tried to remove promotional sections from the previous version. Can you have a look again? I think there is much information that is important and not promotional, so I try to identify the promotional sections. Can you let me know, if you think any more sections are problematic?
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	] (]) 14:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)		:You just reinstated the previous version, promotional material and all. . . ] (]) 11:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
			::Hi ], this is not true. You can see from the number of characters that the text has been shortened by 10% - about 1000 characters less, so I did not "just reinstate it". In my opinion, these were promotional passages. Can you please be more specific in your feedback? That's not very constructive this way, sorry to say. I also compared the article with other NGOs, it's mostly exactly the same sections. 09:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
	== Apple Records link ==
			:::Here are a few of the promotional phrases: "create a world where every person has equal opportunities and can live free from disease and poverty", "draws on its Christian values and over 100 years of professional expertise", "to realise its vision and fulfil its mission", "dedicated to improving the quality of life for persons with disabilities in the world's poorest communities", "strives to make a significant and sustainable impact on the lives of persons with disabilities, contributing to a more inclusive and equitable world for all", "reflects its commitment". . .] (]) 12:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
			::::How is describing the mandate and mission of a nonprofit organization promotional? After all, they have legal relevance and determine how an NGO MUST use its donations. Just some examples from other aproved wiki pages of other NGOs:
			::::* Amnesty International: 'The stated mission of the organisation is to campaign for "a world in which every person enjoys all of the human rights"'
			::::* UNICEF: 'UNICEF's programs emphasize developing community-level services to promote the health and well-being of children.'
			::::* WWF: 'WWF revised its mission statement to: Stop the degradation of the planet's natural environment and to build a future in which humans live in harmony with nature (...)'
			::::Every aid organisation works in accordance with its statutes, which is why its official mandate is not simply advertising – it is a legally binding framework. And as you can see, it is quite common on the Misplaced Pages pages of NGOs to describe their mandate and it is very relevant to the public. So why set such double standards in this case?
			::::In addition, >90% of the content is a description of the historical foundation and prehistory. Wouldn't it be much more expedient to edit individual sentences or passages instead of simply rejecting everything across the board? ] (]) 14:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
			== About your edit in ] ==
	My main concern is that you are adding external links to the front page of the website, rather than to a page relating to the specific artist concerned. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:07, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
			Hello, I do not understand how the part you deleted is promotional. It just talks about the travel. ] ]<sup>/</sup>] 17:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
	So why then remove the links from the John Lennon, George Harrison, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney pages?
			:It read more like a tourist guide than an encyclopedia article. . .] (]) 17:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
	These are the pages relating to (some of the) specific artists involved???
			::It only mentions transportation. You can remove some parts of it but I don't see why the entire paragraph should be removed. ] ]<sup>/</sup>] 17:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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	:Because your links were to the front page of the website. . . ] (]) 14:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
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	Hay, i would like to question your removal of my entry regarding "Rammer".
			Hello! I appreciate your edits to remove promotional material. I wanted to reach out, as I've noticed you have been removing the "external links" section from articles. Per ], we should and can include links to the organizations or businesses of the article in the section at the bottom! Thanks. ] (]) 13:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
	The page currently in Misplaced Pages about "Hydraulic hammers" even supports the creation of a page for "Rammer" when it states, "Breakers are often referred to as "hammers", "peckers", "hoe rams" or "hoe rammers." These terms are popular and commonly used amongst construction/demolition workers." Both the origin of "hoe rams" and "hoe rammers" are from the Rammer Brand name. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:42, 20 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:The article you added usurped an existing page, which is frowned upon. It also appeared promotional in tone and had no independent references. If it is recreated (with third-party references to show its notability), I suggest a page name of "Rammer (company)" or similar. . . ] (]) 23:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)		:I generally only remove the external link to an organisation at the bottom of the article when it already appears in the infobox at the top. . .] (]) 08:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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			== Reversion of edit on Blount Island Command ==
	Here is what I wrote:
			Hi there! ] needs a lot of help. Why did you revert my edit? A quick glance at my contribution history shows I'm not a vandal. I showed up at the Blount Island page to provide coordinates and also did some copy editing because it's so promotional and so poorly written I can't even tell what it's about. Is it a Marine Corps unit? It's too promotional for the military... Is it a private contractor trying to pass themselves off as a military unit? It's just too promotional to stand as it is. May I redo the copy editing? It does not at all meet Misplaced Pages's standards for quality... ] (]) 15:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
	"The "Sample Application" link points to an Made for Adsense website here: http://www.jobapplicationscenter.com I suspect that this link is being used to drive traffic to that site, or to improve search engine relevance for that site.
			:Feel free to edit it, but don't reinstate promotional material like "proud of our relationship with Marine warfighters" and "operationally invaluable in supporting our nation’s interests". . .] (]) 17:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
	You can see where the link was added in place of a previous one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Application_for_employment&diff=next&oldid=504215479. Its true that the previous link points to a site that is no longer functioning (http://www.asherm.com/research/application.doc) but this seems like a set up to get the link to www.jobapplicationcenter.com. I say this because in this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Application_for_employment&diff=next&oldid=456500337 you can see where a link was placed to another Made for Adsense site run by the same person called www.onlinejobapplications.com. Review the WhoIs info for the domain www.jobapplicationcenter.com here: http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=jobapplicationcenter.com&prog_id=GoDaddy You will see that the administrative contact is "Diane Turner." This name appears in the ref tag in the edit to the article here:http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Application_for_employment&diff=next&oldid=456500337
	In addition, a good portion of this page is simply copied from a document called "Planning the Recruitment Process" which can be found here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/62606731/Planning-the-Recruitment-Process-What-You-Need-to-Know-Definitions-Best-Practices-Benefits-and-Practical-Solutions. Scroll to page 7 and you will see that the references on the wikipedia pagehave been copied word for word from the document."
			== You recently tagged ] as written like an advert ==
	Do you think that the link is legit?
			I have just removed a great swathe of brochure-like material, and detagged it. Feel free to re-tag if you believe I have not gone far enough, or to edit some more yourself 🇺🇦&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;🇺🇦 21:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
	] (]) 14:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
	:Highly suspicious when the reference is changed, but none of the content referred to is changed. Removed it. . . ] (]) 15:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
	== Re: SMV ==		== KNIME ==
			Dear @],
	You removed the edits I made to the page for SMV (http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=SMV&redirect=no) for the second time without providing any feedback whatsoever. I took lot of time making an earnest attempt to document an important usage of the word. I'd appreciate some feedback on why the edits were reversed. It's not my intention to get into an edit war. But without necessary feedback such edits as you have made can seem arbitrary or improper and lead to a repeated and unproductive back and forth. I've also added this note to the talk page for the article in question.
			Thank you very much for your input. I recognize that you are a highly experienced user, and I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to improve the ] Misplaced Pages entry in a way that avoids being flagged as promotional content.
	Thanks
	] (]) 18:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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	Actually I think I figured out the problem (though it would have been nice for you to say so before removing the edits). I need to wait until the article for Sexual Market Value is approved, then I need to create a redirect page from SMV to Sexual Market Value, then I need to change the disambiguation page for SMV to add a link to the article for Sexual Market Value. If this understanding is incorrect then please let me know.
	] (]) 18:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
	:That's right; it gets confusing if disambiguation pages contain article content and references. . . ] (]) 19:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
			For now, I have reverted your edit because I’m hoping to receive a detailed ] from you.
	== Roper Page ==
			To give you some context, KNIME is a software company whose main product, KNIME Analytics Platform, has changed and evolved greatly over the past 10 years. The Misplaced Pages page had not been updated in many years, resulting in outdated and sometimes inaccurate information. This is why the edit was so extensive and resulted in a significant increase in the number of bytes (which probably caught your attention).
	Please undo all your changes as the data you post is completely OUTDATED and incorrect. I believe the users should be able to view the most uptodate content for that particular site. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:31, 4 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Up-to-date is good, but not when it is written in flagrantly promotional language. . . ] (]) 14:33, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
	That's debatable and can certainly be changed. I don't understand what's wrong with listing all the subsidiaries and explaining their end markets and products, but perhaps you can provide some insight there. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:It all reads like corporate puffery rather than an encyclopedia article:
	*"Zetec’s advanced ultrasonic and eddy current technology, combined with delivery robotics and a complete software suite, keeps the world’s power plants safe and productive"
	*"high-quality, innovative products, exceptional customer service, and unequaled technical expertise"
	Other than that there is nothing wrong with listing all the subsidiaries and explaining their end markets and products.
	... ] (]) 14:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
			For example, the version you reinstated contained information about courses, but the offerings have changed dramatically, with KNIME reshaping its course curriculum. Therefore, wouldn’t it be better to have the most updated information? Or should information on courses not be included altogether?
	*That's fine. Again, some of that content can certainly be changed - but you'll have to let people actually do it.{{unsigned|108.9.84.4}}
			Additionally, I understand from reading these ] guidelines that discussing a company’s mission carries a high risk of being flagged as promotional. However, my intention was to discuss the design principles of the platform from a technical perspective. This section was inspired by the ] entry and cites an academic paper, focusing on computer science concepts rather than the company's mission.
	A lot of the content has been changed based on your comments. Can you please explain which sections of the new page require more editing, rather than constantly changing it to the original site, which - again - is completely outddated. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Try removing the multiple external links and add properly referenced material based on independent unbiased sources. See ], ] and ] . . ] (]) 10:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
			I appreciate your guidance on how to better present this information. ] (]) 14:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC) comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Links ==
			:I have left it as it is for now, but it reads more like a software user manual than an encyclopedia article about the company. . .] (]) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
	You deleted all the links I added for further reading and as additional references in third party sources in ] page. I see your point, and thanks for the suggestion. Do you think we should limit it and leave a few there at least and not none? thanks ] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 15:32, 14 December 2012 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:: Agreed. The style of content written there is fundamentally unencyclopedic, and reliant entirely on primary sources. I've re-reverted. ] ] 18:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
	:If there are a small number of links directly related to the subject of the article, which provide useful further information and it is made clear to the reader what information the links provide, then it should be ok. . .] (]) 15:37, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
			:::Thanks @] for your feedback.
	Thanks for the info. Can you offer an example so as to ensure it is done properly... ] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 15:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:::I understand your concern on primary sources. I have therefore included the part about design principles since it references an external academic paper. This was inspired by "Design and Philosophy features" section in the wiki page for ]. Also, I updated the very outdated screenshot of the platform.
			:::Any further feedback is welcomed ] (]) 10:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
	== Warnings ==		== Austere Systems ==
			Hi @], too busy to prevent the deletion of the page Austere Systems which you recently deleted, i would have rather preferred to improve it and remove advertising materials/content on the page. I would request you please restore the page as a draft so i can work on it and improve it until it is ready to be published in the main space. Thank you ] (]) 13:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
	Please be a little more careful, you're overrwiting users userpages with warnings, instead of putting them on their talk page. ] (]) 11:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
			: {{tps}} Mean as custard is not an admin so is not able to do that. As an admin, I would decline - the text there is fundamentally unsalvageable (from the very first sentence: {{tq|Austere Systems Pvt Ltd, is a software development company providing cutting edge IT services and solutions to startups and enterprises}}). This has nothing to do with you being busy, it has to do with whether you are trying to describe the country from a neutral perspective or whether you are trying to advertise it to its customers which Misplaced Pages is not a venue for. You were clearly doing the latter. ] ] 18:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
			== Newcomer checking on advert tag ==
	== ] ==
			Hi @], https://en.wikipedia.org/HiPay has an advert tag you added in 2017. It's looking pretty good now. Is there anything I should check before removing your tag? ] (]) 20:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
	There really was a lot more to it. Look carefully at . Then look at the history, and feel free to check out the talk page of almost all the editors with redlinks for user pages. It's well worth your while, usually, to look around a bit in the history. Thanks, ] (]) 02:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
			:I don't see any problem with it now. . .] (]) 22:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
			::Thanks for taking a look. Peace, ] (]) 15:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
			== Removing "resume" tag -- Dean Drako ==
	== University of Manchester Students' Union ==
			Hi @], https://en.wikipedia.org/Dean_Drako has your "reads like a resume" tag from May 2024. I've created a more paragraph-based encyclopedic summary -- the prior more bulleted format was due to page been being updated on an ad hoc over a 10-year period. Is there anything else I should do before removing your tag? ] (]) 02:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)mukis
	Hi,
			:Thank you for removing the tag @]. ] (]) 18:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
	Can you please tell me why you have changed all the information on the University of Manchester Students' Union page? This is now all completely out of date as the organisation has undergone major changes in the last few months. This includes everything such as the logo and the structure of the organisation. If it is a case of citations, I can put these in if you restore the information on the page. ] (]) 16:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
	:Some citations would be good, but the main problem is you removed all the existing material with citations to various independent sources and replaced it with content which is uncited but clearly comes direct from the union's publicity material. You need to read ] and ]. . . ] (]) 17:21, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
			== National Digital Library of India ==
	== Regarding 'Government' ==
	The last edition you reverted on article 'Government' was mine. First above all the references leading to no no definition only to some info about the book/dictionary, so it is no valid at all. The reference ] (]) 18:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
	:You removed cited material and added uncited, ungrammatical and confusing content. . . ] (]) 18:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
			Dear @],
	Check the links as I described above. You revert without reading. You cut me of during adding sources, the second has the sources.
	Regarding grammar you are free to improve. If are confuse with the edition ask. I will explain, this is the editing process, but reverting in 5sek is vandalism. I invite you to talk. If you edited the previous format you do not understand the principles of democratic governments. Administration is only a tool, do not have legislator power thus is not a government.--] (]) 19:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
			I recently observed that there has been a significant edit to the National Digital Library of India's page. It might be more accurate to describe this as "vandalism" rather than an "edit." A substantial part of the article has been replaced with outdated information, and numerous inaccuracies have been introduced without proper citations. Readers seek the most current information, which is their right. The privilege to edit does not extend to distorting facts and figures. Please refrain from misusing the editing privileges granted to you. I have reported this matter to the Misplaced Pages administrators. ] (]) 05:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
	== Refers to International Efficient Agriculture Solutions and Standards Association (IEASSA) ==
			:I have again reverted your edit as it contains unacceptably promotional and uncited content. Please tell me in what way you have notified the administrators, so I may justify my action to them if necessary. . .] (]) 16:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
			== Health crisis ==
	I'd like to dispute You decision on removing my links to IEASSA while I do not agree that my links conflict with Misplaced Pages requirements. International Efficient Agriculture Solutions and Standards Association is a multinational non-profitable organization which supports the ideas of precision agriculture. I really enjoyed that web-site usefulness. I had some projects connected with agriculture and IEASSA materials were enough understandable and available to deal with my lack of knowledge (I am not agronomist, but my team had to manage agricultural projects). For example FAO papers are rather complicated and overloaded with unnecessary stuff. I'm not a scientist to dive in thick books in order to find few sentences which are really important for me. That's because I tried to do a little favor for other users and partially for IEASSA members and to add some links on corresponding articles on its official web-site. I do not agree that the links to an article "Green class" contain useful additional information about green manure, while brief description on precision agriculture ideas can usefully enlarge "Precision agriculture" article on Wiki. Moreover I do not refer to IEASSA in general which seems to be a kind of advertisement - I want to share knowledge with other people.
			Hello @],
	You can tell me that ] page has to much External links. That is true. But the first link is broken as far as PrecisionPays.com doesn't display any content. The following 5 or 6 link brings me to the top page of the web-sites, but doesn't answer to me "what is precision agriculture?". OK, I know this web-sites, but it seems to be a kind of promotion of a brand. If a source name contains phrase "precision agriculture" - is is fair to leave those ones, but to remove direct link on brief article which has educational utility? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			it appears the Health Crisis page https://en.wikipedia.org/Health_crisis has been totally replaced and recategorized as something else entirely. I did not attempt an edit as it seems too strange. ] (]) 17:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks for the alert. It looks like a rogue edit by an automated bot; I have reverted it to the last good version. . .] (]) 19:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
			== I would like to discuss an Edit made to the Grant Union High School (Sacramento California) Wiki page ==
	== Could you email me? ==
			You recently reverted edits I made to my schools page and id like to know why? Everything added there was all factual information and true and added alot to the page, Grant is 91 years old and has a deep history that is very important to me and would like to know why you deem it "promotional" ] (]) 00:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
	Hi Mean as custard!
			:The changes to the article had no references and read like the school prospectus rather than an encyclopedia article: "has a rich history", "the pride of its students in their community’s achievements", "the school’s commitment to excellence", dedicated to promoting high academic achievement", "instills values such as loyalty, patriotism, and accountability, "mission is to close the achievement gap", "designed to equip students with the skills". . .] (]) 09:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
			== Reversal of edits to Tata Memorial Centre Wiki page ==
	If you could email me at jalexander{{@}}wikimedia.org when you have a chance. You were ] for a t-shirt and I'd like to get it sent your way :). ]--] 22:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
	: PING! :) ]--] 20:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
			Hello. I had edited the page https://en.wikipedia.org/Tata_Memorial_Centre, which has a lot of old, incomplete and incorrect information, and added multiple factual updates, including the current logo of Tata Memorial (the logo on the page is an old one). I had removed incorrect or irrelevant information such as regarding the Konark Cancer Foundation or the Tata Clinic. However, all my edits have been undone and the page has been restored to the prior status. I can see some of these were done by you. Can you please help me in ensuring that the page remains accurate and uptodate? I am looking forward to working together on this. ] (]) 16:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
	=hey mean=
			:Factual edits are fine, but the material you added was over-promotional, e.g. "TMC has been the torchbearer for research in affordable and accessible cancer prevention and care. TMC boasts of having a state-of-the-art Clinical Research Secretariat (CRS) to support clinical research." . . ] (]) 20:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
	on one hand you call the article a stub and when one provides info u reject it calling it promotional?
	how can participation in nasa lunarbotics and bry air asia award be promotional ?? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:You have admittedly added a few alleged facts (I say alleged as you provide no references or sources), but most of your changes consist of promotional language that looks like it has been copied from the college prospectus: - "The hostels offer comfortable lodging options that take care of all requisites of daily life plus spacious dining hall". This is not acceptable in a Misplaced Pages article. . . ] (]) 18:20, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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	I have noticed that you keep removing the new content that I add, citing it as "promotional". What I am uploading to the page is merely content that explains what Genesys does, everyone of their competitors has similar content and overview of what they do, so why do you keep removing the content. It is valuable content that helps people understand the nature of our products and services and how we can help them. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:48, 2 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Most articles about other similar companies do not contain flagrantly promotional wording like "All components work together to enable companies to deliver a superior customer service experience in real-time". If they do you are welcome to remove it. . . ] (]) 18:12, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
			Why are you removing links to company websites from "external links" sections, such as , or recent edits ? You removing them is very disruptive when I want to quickly get to the website to get the company logo. I have to google the company site then & check it's the correct one, because you removed the links.
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			Such links are perfectly fine per ]. --] (]) 21:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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			:I generally only remove external links from the bottom of the article if they already appear in the infobox at the top of the page and the article is intended to be promotional. . .] (]) 10:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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			::Well, at the first link, the company website was no longer linked anywhere, and at the second link, you broke the display of the {{tl|Commons category}} template, which now renders at the bottom of the "References" section, where it dosen't belong.
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			::I support removing promotional content, but a simple link to the main page of the official website, ''both'' in the infobox & external link section -especially if the "External" section already contains other links- is not promotional <small>(Except maybe some rare special case)</small>
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			I noticed that all my edits on the Kardex site https://en.wikipedia.org/Kardex_Group have been reverted, although I used the language that is also being used on other listed intralogistic companies such as Interroll, Jungheinrich and Kion. The page was completely outdated with missing and wrong information, not really of value for the reader. Reverting all the edits makes this site unusable as a source. Please check and revert. ] (]) 16:54, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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	Thank you for your observation. I have made changes to the content so that it doesn't appear as an advertisement.] (]) 17:01, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Dear MaC,
	Thank you for reviewing the ] wiki page and for helping to improve the clarity of the article. I'm one of the contributors to the page and I want to improve the article further as you had suggested. You had left the <<ad>> tag on the article, after the clarifying amendments that you had made. Just wanted to check with you on where you think the article still needs improvement and where you think promotional content has been provided for the article to be tagged as an advertisement. Most of the content that I had added has come from reputed local newspapers in Sri Lanka, as you may observe from the reflist. However, where third party information was lacking, I have sourced from Aitken Spence company's official communications (annual report, web site, and blog)as with the logistics sector. With regards to the tone and language I've tried to keep it neutral as possible without unduely highlighting good or the bad of the evidence presented.
	Since this is a company page, the objective of the page, in my opinion, is to describe the company to a reader who does not know about the company without either praising or disparaging the company. Therefore,it is important to present available information on the operational areas and relative capacity of the company so that the reader could understand the scale of operations. Mentioning this for a company wiki does not make it an advertisement.
	Also with respect to the renaming of "Logistic Solutions" to "Shipping", I believe the latter term does not fully capture the scale of operations of Aitken Spence. Shipping generally entails the physical movement of goods from one place to another, but logistics encompasses not just the movement of goods but also dealing with information/knowledge/management systems,and operation of infrastructure (port operations,fleet management, 3PL and 4PL,etc)that's beyond the mere transportation. Since, Aitken Spence is also naming this sector as "Logistic Solutions", I thought it best to have the same terminology.
	I'm hoping to make further improvements to the article over the weekend. So would appreciate if you could provide feedback earlier, so I could draft the artcile better with your suggestions.
	While I agree with you that the article does need improvement, I do not think its fair on all the contributors to this article, for the wiki article to be classified as an advertisement, when almost all content is corroborated through reputed third party sources. Therefore, I will remove the <<ad>> tag and revert the term "Shipping" to "Logistic Solutions" on 19th Jan. 2013, in the event I do not receive any feedback from you by that date.
	Thanks] (]) 05:52, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	:"Logistic Solutions" are meaningless marketing buzzwords. . . ] (]) 12:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
	I agree that most ppl are familiar with the term "shipping" as opposed to "logistics" & can relate to it better, but should we misrepresent the operations, just because one notion is more easier to understand? Also, would be really helpful if you could provide your insight as to where you think the article (overall) looks promotional..as I noted earlier, I sourced from Aitken Spence annual report and web site too...so where we can add more simpler, non-marketing terminology without misrepresenting the actual operations, I think we should,for the benefit of the reader. If you could let me know your suggestions either here or on my talk page, will really appreciate it..thanks] (]) 14:08, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
	== Great Britain ==
	I expect you have picked up on <br />Cheers!&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<br />&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<strong>]</strong> &#124;<small>]</small>&#124; 12:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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	I have ] on the appropriate target of IPO. I have also made all the current links point directly to ], so incoming links will not factor into the discussion. Cheers! ] ] 23:26, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	:You should at least provide a backlink from ] to the disambiguation page. . . ] (]) 08:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
	== Putting the 'Cultural' in ] ...==
	Hallo Mean as custard, I just wanted to discuss the paragraph you've reinstated at Cultural icon. It's all about whether "iconic" is a decently usable term... but not about "cultural icon" at all, really. Either the paragraph needs extending with citations, quotations and discussions about "ci" and whether '''that''' term is grossly overused or not --- or it needs to be taken out. What d'you think? All the best, ] (]) 09:46, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
	:I felt it was relevant as ] redirects to ]. . . ] (]) 09:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
	:: Mmm, could be a dodgy redirect. Perhaps we better leave it in, but look for something to make it more "cultural". Volunteers? - all the best - ] (]) 10:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
	== http://en.wikipedia.org/Hope_Hospitals ==
	Thank you for your observation. I have made changes to the content so that it doesn't appear as an advertisement. I have only added a link to the scope of services that has appeared in the NABH website today. Infobox is necessary to corelate and identify the wiki page with our hospital. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:05, 20 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	Please accept my apology ... only trying to be helpful ... it seemed to me to be a sub-heading typo error<br />Sincerely&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<br />&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<strong>]</strong> &#124;<small>]</small>&#124; 17:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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			'''Rabdan Academy''' is a government-owned higher education institution in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, established to provide training and education for professionals in the Safety, Security, Defence, Emergency Preparedness, and Crisis Management (SSDEC) sectors ().
	== http://en.wikipedia.org/Risk_transformation ==
	dear custad, why did you delete this page nearly entirely?
			The Academy is known for offering academic and vocational programs and has received a "5-star" rating in the Teaching and Employability categories under the QS Stars University Rating System (; ).
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			----'''History'''
			Rabdan Academy was established in 2013 under Law No. 7 issued by the late Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan. It is accredited by the UAE’s Commission for Academic Accreditation (CAA) (; ; ).
	Hello,
			----'''Academic Programs'''
	You recently reverted a page I was editing ]. I can see that some content on it may have been overly promotional, which I have been trying to clean up to better comply with the NPOV policy. However, I disagree with your reversion to a much earlier version, which contains far less information and is clearly less informative for the public. Instead, can you offer some suggestions to improve the February 7th version so it is both informative and neutral?? Thank you. ]
	:According to the page history you have made no changes to this article. The material I removed was promotional content added by ]. . . ] (]) 22:38, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
			The Academy provides undergraduate and graduate programs in areas such as Business Continuity Management, Integrated Emergency Management, Homeland Security, Defence and Security, Policing and Security Leadership, Systems Engineering Specializing in Defence, and Intelligence Analysis ().
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			----'''Vocational Education'''
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	:I suggest you wait until someone with no direct connection with the organisation decides to update it. There are more than four million other Misplaced Pages articles you could try updating instead . . ] (]) 17:06, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
			Rabdan Academy also offers vocational education programs and professional development services to meet the training needs of professionals in the SSDEC sectors. These programs are designed to respond to regional and global challenges in safety and security ().
	I suggest you use spell check Mr. Mean as Mustard. Somewhat funny seeing all your grammatical flaws there Zeus. Apparently, you are a special human...in the "lil' yellow bus" kind of 'special'. ] (]) 05:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
	:Normally I would remove a post such as this, but I will retain it to remind myself I am but mortal. . . ] (]) 08:13, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
	== The Elgin Hotel ==
	Hello. Thank you for talking time to edit the sections. I had included the cuisine section as the Sikkimese Cuisine offered by this Hotel is quite unparalleled and has dishes many of which are hitherto unknown and slowly getting lost. The reference is also been published in a National Indian Newspaper as a travel and cuisine experience news. Also the external links are public domain information from websites that are used by travellers as authentic source of information when planning a trip to Himalayas and these links are talking of all the places instead of a single hotel property. I hope you would see it in the same light as I do and would guide me as to how this information could be presented in the true spirit of Misplaced Pages.
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	:The section on cuisine was way too promotional in tone. Notability is not established by a single review. It would need a reference to the hotel winning a national award for cuisine, for example. The description of attractions of the surrounding area was also promotional, and not relevant to the article as it would better be included in the article on the town. . . ] (]) 14:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
	:Thank you for the explanantion. The cuisine section was just a description of food names and neither mentioned as good or bad. Darjeeling is not a very well developed part of the country and excepting a few hotels that try to maintain a semblance of hospitality, winning an award for the cuisine is highly unlikely. But there has been a mention of this in as National News Paper which was already referenced. Can that not be considered as a support to talk about the food of the Hotel. The external links are removed also whereas they are just external links and is not having any promotional tone as already explained earlier. ] (]) 14:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
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	UTSOA has updated its page based on your suggestions that it appeared too similar to a promotional advertisement. Please revert/remove "advertisement" description at your earliest convenience. Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:It still appears a little promotional in tone; I have downgraded the tag. . . ] (]) 09:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	== orbeta-casenas clan ==
	hi,
	my apologies, didn't mean to with the edits am still struggling to make a page which i would dedicate to the family of my great grandfather. thanks for the info <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Hi Custard Guy :) ==
	So, just curious...what custard are you as mean as? I've made chocolate, vanilla, cherry, mint, and white wine custard over the years and they're all pretty nice. I mean, not tasty, like, they're not mean. I've never been attacked by custard I don't think. I've never met custard I don't like. So...how can you be as mean as custard? What does your name mean? --<span style="background:#DCDCDC; border:3px solid green; width:200px; height:16px;">]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small><small>]</small></small></span>&nbsp; 01:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi Mean as Custard, you forgot to inform the author when you tagged ] for deletion. '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 18:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
	:No I didn't. . . ] (]) 18:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
	::Peridon , but admins deleting articles aren't always going to check that an experienced tagger like yourself has informed the author. '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 18:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::In cases like this, the admin will inform the user that their account has been blocked as a promotional name, which should be sufficient explanation. . . ] (]) 18:51, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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	Hello Mean as Custard. At this page, ], if I count correctly. It is a sandbox in user space, which means that the page is ''intended'' for tests. Why do you think the page is harmful for Misplaced Pages? --] (] / ]) 15:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
	:Misplaced Pages is not a free web host for files unconnected with the project. . . ] (]) 15:11, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
	::Maybe it is connected with the project. It is possible that the editor learns to work with the wikicode. Why not ] or to ask or to take it to ] and explain your concerns properly instead of stubborn reverting? --] (] / ]) 15:50, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
	:I have previously MFD'd identical files created by sockpuppets of this user. . . ] (]) 15:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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	Just letting you know that I've initiated a SPI, it's pretty obvious to me that the three Soapboxers are singing the same tune - See ]. Perhaps you'd like to comment there. ] (]) 10:52, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
	I have tried to add the National Association of the Remodeling Industry's certification to the Professional Certification page but you keep removiing them. What am I doing wrong? The assocaiton has been granting certifications for over 25 years and is working with ANSI to become accredited. How can I create a post that will be accepted.
	Dantad69 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	I have tried to add the National Association of the Remodeling Industry's certifications to the Professional Certification page but you keep removing them. What am I doing wrong? The assocaiton has been granting certifications for over 25 years and is working with ANSI to become accredited. How can I create a post that will be accepted.
	] (]) 19:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
	:I felt that it added nothing to the article; it is not meant to be an exhaustive list, and there are already plenty of examples. . . ] (]) 20:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
	== Reverting Changes on the Meta Golding page ==
	Hello Mean as Custard. Could you please explain what is the problem you have with the lack of presence of a very personal detail, such as the birth date, considering
	we are talking about a living person? You keep reverting my changes.
	] (]) 10:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
	:Birth date is not a personal detail, it is a matter of public record. Why do you insist on removing it? . . . ] (]) 11:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
	Because the subject of the page deems it as too private. Anyhow this is about a living person http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons , "Exercise caution in using primary sources. Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses.". Wouldn't this make sense?
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	== Richmond Christian School ==
	Hello. I noticed you removed the school mission statement cited directly from the webpage, suggesting it was promotional. I feel it much better explains the tone of the school than what was there prior. Finally, you also removed the the link to the current school webpage where are the reference sources come from. A write up without accurate or up do date references is not useful. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:15, 28 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Saint Mary-of-the-Woods Colllege page edits ==
	I'm trying to understand why all my edits for the Saint Mary-of-the-Woods College page are being taken down. The current page is filled with outdated inaccurate information, and I'm trying to provide current information that is not only accurate, but more interesting. I am still learning about how to properly cite, and I don't even know how to upload a photo yet. Also, I'm trying to make sure the College is also listed appropriately on other sites that pertain to the college.
	What do you want me to do differently?
	francesdyer] (]) 14:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
	:The main problem is with the uncited puffery like "The College’s success in online education comes from having a brick and mortar institution to add credibility to the distance program"; "Pomeroy Pride means surpassing your own expectations."; "The Saint Mary-of-the-Woods College Ring is an enduring symbol that binds proud traditions to the individual student’s memorable educational experience." Misplaced Pages articles are supposed to contain unbiased encyclopedic information (preferably sourced from reliable third-party publications), not serve as an extension of the college prospectus. ] (]) 14:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
	So, can none of the references come from the college website at all?
	francesdyer] (]) 17:55, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
	:If it is factual content which can't be disputed, then it should be ok to take it from the website. But not if it could be considered at all promotional. . . ] (]) 18:04, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
	Thank you Mean as Custard for your explanation. I will use the sandbox for my draft edits before placing them on the site. francesdyer] (]) 12:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Back in February 2012 you PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been ] by an IP who claims that a purchase since then makes it notable, so per ] I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, ] (]) 21:27, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
	== Your revertion of my edits ==
	I was surprised to find my recent changes to the PA Consulting page were all reverted so suddenly. I was following the Misplaced Pages guidelines as far as I understood, had posted the intended changes on the talk page with plenty of notice. I would have been happy to take into account any feedback on there before making the updates.
	My intention had been to improve the article by updating out of date and inaccurate information, restructuring to a more factual layout, focusing on what PA as a company is/does, amending the language to make it more objective and adding more references. I accept that some of the language could still be seen as promotional but much of this was already live and I have tried not to add any additional promotional terms.
	In the spirit of Misplaced Pages I’d welcome any specific suggestions on how to make the page as accurate and objective as possible so I can address them in the next update.
	--] (]) 16:27, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	:"PA helps businesses to succeed by identifying new opportunities offered by the wealth of ‘information intelligence’ and big data available to them, connecting it together with the help of technologies such as mobile, social media, geospatial and cloud, and commercialising it in a way that makes sense to the industry they are in, for example, energy and telecommunications" - this kind of language combines advertising, puffery, peacockery and business buzzwords; it certainly does not belong in an encyclopedia article. See ] and ]. . ] (]) 16:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	::{{tps}} That article is a complete mess and has a long history of ]. I've trimmed down some more of the non-neutral content. I'd advise AChatburnPA to read and follow ] if they want to make any changes to the article - in a nutshell - use secondary sources such as newspapers and suggest changes on the talk page. ] and ] may also be helpful. ] (]) 17:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
	== Point-of-Rental Systems ==
	Hello,
	On April 16th, you deleted all of the links (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Blog) from the article. What is the issue with having these links when MANY other pages, such as ], has similar links listed as well? ] (]) 16:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
	:I am following the guidance on ]. . . ] (]) 19:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
	== Hey Mr. Mean ==
	Hey, I noticed that you changed my edit on the ISKL (International School of Kuala Lumpur) Misplaced Pages Page. Why? All it says is "(revert to less blatantly promotional version)". I edited this page as I went to the school and know quite a bit about it. I was there for 5 years. I know how the school works. I was just wondering why you would take all my work down? Was it because my work was bad? Was it false? All I'm asking is for a more justified reason than what I have gotten. Thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:37, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Like I said, it was blatantly promotional - stuff like: "At ISKL, learning does not stop with academics but encompasses social, emotional and moral development. We offer a well-rounded educational program for our students to excel and lead balanced quality lives outside of the classroom.". . . ] (]) 20:24, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
	== May 2013 ==
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	Thank you for your assistance and input on the Guilford College page. I made brief comments on the "edit summary" in history. You help make other wiki folks better with your feedback. True and unbiased integrity of information is the goal. I will continue to think about how I can make the article better. With appreciation, wikiwiki <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	== A barnstar for you! ==
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	|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Appreciation for your hard work throughout Misplaced Pages. See my brief message on the bottom of your User talk page and on Guilford College History (edit summary). ] (]) 23:33, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
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	== ] ==
	Next time, just tag with {{tl|db-g11}}. ] <sup>(])</sup> 22:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Just like last time. Don't blank. Tag with {{tl|db-g11}}. ] <sup>(])</sup> 04:00, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
	:I noted your comment, and if I have more similar complaints from other users then I will consider adjusting my policy. . . ] (]) 08:11, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
	== I didn't mean to block you! ==
	I don't know how that happened, I was on the talk page of a user where you had reverted spam, and when I clicked the link for spamuserblock was horrified to see "Mean as custard has been blocked". I am extremely sorry to have spoiled your virgin block log, but I hope my unblock comment makes it clear the block was unintended and undeserved. Apologies again, ] (]) 07:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	== June 2013 ==
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			The Academy collaborates with world-leading academic and research institutions to manage capacity-building projects and provide technical consultations to organizations seeking to align with international standards ().
	== Procedural question ==
			----'''Research and Innovation'''
			The institution conducts research in fields such as policing, security, defence, business continuity, and disaster management. Rabdan Academy works with global academic and research partners to advance innovation in these areas (; ; ).
	Hey Mean, procedural question for you. When you see a promotional user page or sandbox, is it better to blank it as per ], or leave it alone and nominate it for ]? I've been doing the latter because more often than not, it's also a promotional username, so I'll use either {{tl|db-spamuser}} or {{tl|db-spamuser-sandbox}} and then report them to ]. Just wanted to know what you think... thanks! --] (]) 15:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
			----'''Rabdan Security and Defence Institute (RSDI)'''
	:I tend to use {{tl|db-spamuser}} or {{tl|db-spam}} in blatant cases where an admin should consider blocking the user, otherwise just blank the page and maybe leave a warning on the user talk page. . . ] (]) 16:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
			In 2024, Rabdan Academy launched the Rabdan Security and Defence Institute (RSDI) during the International Security and National Resilience (ISNR) Conference. The RSDI is a specialized think tank focusing on security and defence studies, aiming to provide high-level research and consultation in these areas. (; ).
	== Ansaldo STS ==
			----'''Vice-President ('''''<u>to be updated on the right side of the article</u>''''')'''
			The current Vice-President of Rabdan Academy is '''Salem Saeed Al Saeedi''' (; ). ] (]) 05:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
	I see some merit (some) in your edits, but you are too broad and sweeping. Such a large edit is alway contestable .... and as you seem to believe that everyon is using Misplaced Pages for sales and marketing, I feel that you are lacking ]. 00:34, 5 June 2013 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:It mostly seems all right, though I don't like the bit about "collaborates with world-leading academic and research institutions": we need to know from an independent source who they are and why they are 'world-leading'. . .] (]) 09:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
			::Thank you for your feedback. I understand your concern regarding the phrase 'collaborates with world-leading academic and research institutions.' To address this, I can provide additional sources to verify these collaborations and clarify the institutions involved. Here are some references that support these collaborations with academic and research institutions:
			::https://ra.ac.ae/en/about-rabdan/strategic-partners
			::https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/companies-news/rabdan-academy-elevates-international-standing-in-2023-em0xogw0
			::<nowiki>https://ra.ac.ae/en/media/news/rabdan-academy-and-monash-university-forge-partnership-to-support-research-and-educational-projects</nowiki>
			::<nowiki>https://unitar.org/about/news-stories/press/unitar-partner-rabdan-academy-training-and-partnerships-arab-gulf-region-and-across-middle-east</nowiki>
			::<nowiki>https://www.mediaoffice.abudhabi/en/security/rabdan-academy-partners-with-middle-east-institute-to-advance-research-and-development-in-defence-and-security</nowiki>
			::<nowiki>https://ra.ac.ae/en/media/news/zayed-military-university-signs-an-mou-for-a-strategic-partnership-with-leading-universities-in-the-country</nowiki>
			::Please let me know if these sources are sufficient or if further adjustments are needed. I look forward to your feedback! ] (]) 12:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Fontana, California

Thanks for trimming the promos at Fontana, California. I've been removing promotional cruft from articles for a while, and occasionally have pushback like this. I'd like to take this whole "promo and rankings in US city articles" to an RfC like the Canadians did. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Avercast

Is this company likely to pass WP:NCORP? If yes, I'd remove the old tags. If not, I'd send it to WP:AfD. Please ping me either way. Bearian (talk) 00:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Golfist...

...is not a word. Please use common English, i.e. "golfer". Thanks. _wjemather 21:05, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Or "professional golfer" when appropriate. In some contexts, any such descriptor is unnecessary and can simply be removed. _wjemather 21:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

External links

Links to official websites are appropriate per WP:ELYES/WP:ELOFFICIAL ("Misplaced Pages articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site". Please stop removing them from External Links sections. Thank you. _wjemather 00:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Shifra Smart Homes

I saw you took a shot at editing this stub. I don't see how it's notable. If you nominate it for deletion, please ping me. Bearian (talk) 02:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

March 2021

Hi, I saw you took a shot at the updates I made about Telestream company The updates are based on actual facts which is described in the factsheet of the company. All users of Misplaced Pages have the right to know actual data i.e. the story of company, number of employees, revenue, so that they decide whether to join it as employee or buy its products or make career decisions. All MNC's already show such information. write to me in my talk page if you have any concerns on any paragraph. I have removed some of them for you. Please let it be there.

Bearian (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhiren7291 (talk • contribs)

User warned for adding promotional material to Misplaced Pages. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

February 2021

Hello, I'm Pbrks. I noticed that you recently removed content from Houston Outlaws without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Pbrks (talk) 16:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Mvcg66b3r. I noticed that you recently removed content from Calbee without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Conklin Center

Hi! Just courtesy heads up that I dePRODded this as I think there's enough to at least warrant an AfD. StarM 00:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Heads Up: Vandal Patrol

Hey @Mean as custard: just a heads up, in the persons talk page |Qualitynet_q8, you need to make a new section, please and thank you.

I don't understand what you mean. . . Mean as custard (talk) 21:16, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Gemma Quinnell

Just a quick head's up, I declined the speedy you put on this article and sent it off to AfD. I have a feeling if I deleted it, it would just come back again for the reasons I expressed at AfD, and therefore I want a documented discussion to get rid of it. Ritchie333 11:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

AImotive

Hi – you added an advertising flag to the AImotive page back in 2019. I've just done a major edit. It would be great if you could check the page sometime, and flag anything else that needs to be changed in your opinion to remove the promotional tag. Many thanks! --Seagerd (talk) 11:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

It looks better now so I have removed the Advert tag, although there seems to be an excessive number of references in places. . .Mean as custard (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

To be honest, I haven't got round to cleaning up the references yet. Will do so sometime in the coming weeks. Thank you for the feedback. --Seagerd (talk) 10:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Justiyaya

Just wanted to say thanks for your recent Kathy Taylor edits :) Justiyaya (talk) 10:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

LoopUp

Hi Mean as a custard, I appreciate your contribution on the LoopUp article however your edits took out the main offering that the company now offers - Direct routing for Microsoft Teams. If you checked the website and newsroom you would see that the content on the page was at least up to date. If you are not going to let me update the content as you find it too promotional can you at least make sure that what your edits don't make the article completely outdated and irrelevant!? LyonDelphine (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Mailman Group

Hello, Mean as custard,

Please make sure when you do a big revert to an earlier version of an article, that there haven't been valid changes made since that earlier version was done. In this case, categories had been altered to correct ones and your revert put back nonexistent, red link categories. If, in the future, you could just look over the page and fix any problems like this that appear before moving on to the next article, it would be appreciated. Thank you! Liz 19:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Teresa Carlson COI edit requests

Hi! Reaching out because I saw you've been involved in updating Teresa Carlson in the past. I've posted some COI edit requests on the talk page there. If you have time, would love your feedback. Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 20:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Krea University

You didn't like the tone of Krea University and therefore erased, essentially, all of it. If you don't like some of the content, please be judicious and just erase what you find objectionable. I didn't write the article. I was just a contributor. But I appreciate that people who are looking up the university will be interested in more than just a stub. Njonsey (talk) 12:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

The content I removed was unreferenced and wholly promotional in tone. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Madras Christian College

Hey would you mind looking at Madras Christian College. I tried cleaning up the article but it still contains a lot of unsourced material. I am not sure if it’s all right to remove all unsourced material as it might degrade the quality of the article. Thanks defcon5 (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Castronovo Chocolate

Thank you for trimming Castronovo Chocolate. The references were from bogus anduntrustworthy sources such as New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Zagat. Pat yourself on the back. You should feel proud of yourself. Another editor noted after you that no sources exist... well, of course they don't after your good work. The only disappointment is you didn't delete the whole article.

The problem was one of promotional tone, not of sources. . .Mean as custard (talk) 07:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Promo cuts to Alpha Sigma Tau

Good afternoon, Mean.

I'm generally onboard with reduction of promotional material in articles, and cruft (great word for it). My areas of editing work focus on the Fraternities and Sororities Project, and various collegiate articles. Lots of cruft to work with there. But also woeful stubs that need expansion.

Regarding the very sharp scythe you took to the Alpha Sigma Tau article, I think you cut too much. While toss-off sentences like "Alpha Sigma Tau provides women with the skills, community, and empowerment needed to excel in life." are clearly "yada-yada" filler, and add no encyclopedic value, I thought the sections listing values and traditions were OK, as was inclusion of their Creed. While all such groups have a creed, citing it here is useful for non-members to understand the sorority's brand and its differentiation. --Not just for branding in a promotional sense. I would make a clear distinction between the two (promotion versus clarification). Stated a different way, I don't have a problem with company articles that note their mission statement or animating values: Inclusion helps their people focus, and helps outsiders hold them accountable because of the clarity these words provide.

I assume you deleted the symbols section because some of the items were duplicated in the infobox. My sense of other F&S articles is that the infobox summarizes and that a symbols and traditions section is allowable, and may have a sentence or two of dialog and supporting references. At least that is how hundreds and hundreds of other articles have it.

Further, I find the listing and short descriptions of programs for health and safety issues, which you cut, to be valuable, especially in differentiating this program benefit among other women's groups. These aren't just marketing screed; rather, these items are important to participants and their parents. (Speaking as an outside observer, sorority women tend to have a higher skew awareness and responsiveness to these points. I note this even though these items aren't personally important to me. I hope I'm clear.)

For sure, the sections blathering on about "Lifelong friendships", "Vast network", "Giving back", clearly are more cruft, and I support those deletions, too.

Have you considered a similar effort on the several very long, disjointed, promotional and nattering articles for the traditionally Black Greek Letter Organizations? Some of these have endless detail, going on for a hundred or more paragraphs. To be fair, there is far more promotional language in these, with kludgy language, grammar issues, often a non-encyclopedic tone, non-notable "notable members", lack of references, and themes that are severely over-weighted. The same criticism can be made of articles about the Ivy League schools, which drone on for paragraphs about insufferable details of their annual rankings and further detail about minor departments and initiatives. Gaaah. These are far more troubling to me.

I really appreciate your work. We may have a slight difference of opinion on this issue. I remain an Inclusionist rather than a Deletionist, to bring up the long-standing Misplaced Pages debate. I fully endorse the effort to cut non-encyclopedic junk and clearly biased, promotional material, but I do recognize that we do not have the same space limitations as a physical encyclopedia. Fair? Would you give my view here a review before I go back to the article and restore a couple of these items?

You call yourself Mean, but I think you are just thorough. You are an important contributor to Misplaced Pages. For that, and a few moments of attention to this note, I thank you.

Jax MN (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Hello, I'm SeaCardinal. I noticed that you recently removed content from Kibi Presbyterian College of Education without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. SeaCardinal (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Yukari Films

You recently placed an Advert template onto this page, however, you did not provide any feedback or reason why. It is not written in a promotional tone. The subject meets the wiki guidelines and has both industry impact, as well as positive peer reviews - which are all documented with reliable citations. Additionally, you placed a Verifiability template on the page also, which makes no sense as none of the citations are close to the source whatsoever. I would appreciate an explanation of these actions so that the article can be improved upon, or ask to please remove the complaints.45.170.104.254 (talk) 08:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

If the article referred to is Yulari Films, only the Advert template was mine, but I agree with whoever added the other two templates. The article consists mainly of unreferenced positive reviews and lists of alleged awards, and overall the tone is highly promotional. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your constant removal of advertising. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Misplaced Pages Editor Retention Project)

User:Premeditated Chaos submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Editor Mean as custard to be Editor of the Week for their tireless work in removing promotional content from Misplaced Pages. Editor of the Week celebrates Misplaced Pages editors who are making significant contribution to the health and welfare of Misplaced Pages. For the last twelve, count 'em, twelve years, Mean as custard has worked practically daily at this task with laser focus and incredible patience. Mean as custard's dedication has led to 175K edits with a commendable 73% in mainspace. Intervening against vandalism and improper usernames is also a duty Mean has taken on. Without editors like this, working behind the scenes, the encyclopedia would be in a sorry state indeed. Let his efforts be bare of our appreciation no longer. User:Vami IV seconded this nomination.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 19:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Solid Waste Association of North America for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Solid Waste Association of North America is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Solid Waste Association of North America until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Assistance

Hello -- you keep flagging my edits as being promotional, but they are clearly written in objective prose. It would be nice to have your assistance in identifying what about my edits on Native Design in particular is having you flag the content. I will happily change so it can remain up. Thank you!

Native Design: "awarded for developing innovative products", "now offers a full-service innovation practice", "a completely cohesive user experience", "a range of world-firsts", "made with sustainability and a circular economy in mind". - all highly promotional. You clearly have a conflict of interest with the subject despite (or due to) removing the advert tag from the article header. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

Hello Mean as custard,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Misplaced Pages and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

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OSF Digital

Hello, Mean as custard,

I noticed you did a big revert to an earlier version of the OSF Digital article, after I had made valid changes reflecting the current status of the company. It would be much appreciated if you could provide details on what specific part of the content you consider to be promotional, so that we can fix the problem instead of discarding everything. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filotesimona (talk • contribs) 19:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Filotesimona. Besides the COI guidelines I left on your Talk, I recommend you read the guidelines about shared accounts since you say "we" above. Thank you Star Mississippi 01:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mean as custard. Thank you for your feedback. This is not a shared account. "We" refers to the people/users editing the page, you and I.Filotesimona (talk) 17:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Mission, vision deletions

Hi Mean as custard. I note a couple of mission statement deletions, etc., you recently provided. I've seen your solid editing before, and know these were offered in good faith. I would challenge them though, as these points are factual and do not generally tend to excessive puffery or bloat. That said, I would firmly agree with you that some of these Greek Letter Organization pages indeed do have such peacock language. I too, police such body text often. I also cut sections of really long mission statements for the purpose of summary statements.

We ought not be haphazard in these. If you want to argue that omitting mission statements, vision, pillars, etc., should merit a change to our standard infobox template (and these, from the body text that generally informs the infoboxes), fine. Take it up as a discussion point on the template Talk page. Let's determine consensus first.

I've got a long list of pending edit work, but if this issue is a focus of your concern, maybe take a look at the websites for the Divine nine, many of which have lengthy, bloated text which detracts from the value of a more tightly written summary article. Or look at some of the 'captive' honor societies that are merely profit-making front groups. These are rife with peacock language. Fair? Jax MN (talk) 17:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

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UNICOM edits

Hi, I have removed a number of items that may have read as advertising from this page that you placed a flag on: https://en.wikipedia.org/UNICOM_Global. Please let me know if this is sufficient and if the flag can be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 17:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• "delivers software, services, and solutions to Fortune 500 and Global 2000 companies" is still marketing-speak. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi -- I have changed that sentence to be inline with the introductory sentence of similar companies, IBM and HCL_Technologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 12:46, 11 February 2022 (UTC) Hi -- let me know if the note can be removed at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 21:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• It still contains multiple references to "solutions", which is a word found frequently in advertisements and rarely in unbiased encyclopedia articles. . . Mean as custard (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

  Hi I have removed all references to 'solutions' -- as you pointed out via the buzzword note -- thank you for doing that it made it easy to find them. I believe the "Contains content written like and advertisement" flag can now be removed. Louv (talk) 02:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi -- I just removed all such references to 'solutions' -- as you pointed out via the buzzword note -- thank you for doing that it made it easy to find them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 13:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Please let me know if the "Contains content written like advertisement" flag can now be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.37.50.38 (talk) 21:05, 20 February 2022 (UTC) Hi -- let me know if the "Reads Like Advertisement" flag can be removed. I believe I have fixed the page and it can be removed now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 22:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thai-Chinese International School - (Removal of Ad tag)

I've edited this article to be less promotional. Can you consider removing the ad tag? Roostery123 (talk) 02:28, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

Hello Mean as custard,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 822 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 847 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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Removal or company URLs in Infoblox and "External links" from companies

I noticed that you have been removing company URLs from infoblox and the "External links" section from company related pages and I was just wondering if there was a particular policy against including that information? I would also like to mention that a number of your recent edits have left off the edit summary which makes it harder for other editors to see what is going on. Gusfriend (talk) 14:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

I was just coming to ask the same after your removal on Terracotta, Inc.. I don't think this is necessary or policy based when it's the official URL. Can you clarify? Thanks! Star Mississippi 15:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

I often find in articles containing promotional content that the company url is in the heading infobox as well as at the bottom of the page, and this seems excessive. Occasionally I remove it from the infobox as well where it appears to me to be part of the company's advertising strategy on Misplaced Pages. . .Mean as custard (talk) 18:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

There is explicitly a field for it in the infobox, so I don't think your editing is in line with current practice. Please keep culling the spamvertorial content as you are doing, but I think the URLs are fine since I believe they're all WP:NOFOLLOW Star Mississippi 18:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

For the "External links" section I agree that there is often too many links but would suggest that having the company URL there via the template {{Official URL}} would be reasonable even if the other links were removed.Gusfriend (talk) 01:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

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Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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Content advice

Hello. You have recently removed the projects section from this page as an advert. How can I modify this list of projects that have used the Berkeley Open Infrastructure to be more inline with expectations and the receptacle of historical information that I want it to be? Al Piskun (talk) 10:10, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Instead of listing every single project, you could include a few examples if they are written with non-promotional language and have independent references to show their notability. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Al Piskun (talk) 21:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Would it be okay to include (and link to) all projects that have a Misplaced Pages page even if that were more than a few? Al Piskun (talk) 22:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, if a project has a Misplaced Pages page then that (in theory) shows it is notable. . .Mean as custard (talk) 08:14, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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Removal of project list

Hi Mean as Custard. You recently edited the CDM Smith page to remove external links and now our "significant projects" list is gone. There were ten projects listed that linked to external sources. Do you remember deleted the list and why? Thanks. Shepardde (talk) 20:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

It was just a list of external links, with no indication as to why they were significant. . .Mean as custard (talk) 13:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Mean as custard,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

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National Dong Hwa University

You didn't like the tone of National Dong Hwa University and therefore erased, essentially, most of it. Some of that is well-refered and is the fact. If you don't like tone in some of the content, please edit it rather than erasing all of it. But I appreciate that people who are looking up the university will be interested in more than just a stub. Decasurger (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Addiko Bank

Hi Mean as custard, I am new to wikipedia and noticed that you were one of the editors of the addiko bank wiki page. Could you maybe have a look at the information? I believe it is very outdated, since the german version is very different and provides much more recent data. I am not qualified to make changes though, I think. If there is a proper way to request changes please let me know.

Many thanks :) Isi Lara TA (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Mission/Vision & Fraternities

I've started a discussion at Template talk:Infobox Fraternity on the Mission/Vision fields. I decided to jump straight to that without reverting the recent removals that you've done. I'd appreciate your comments.Naraht (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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Perkins&Will

Hi there. Thanks for your attention to the Perkins&Will page. I'm trying to update it, as the information is about ten years out of date, and I'm using the article pages for Gensler, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, and other architecture firms as guides. Would it be better to clone the page in my sandbox, update the information with your comment in mind, and solicit feedback there? I've never gone deep on an edit before, and would really appreciate any additional guidance. MauriceFrancisEgan (talk) 23:27, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Essbase

Hello, @Mean as custard,

can you please explain the reason for removing all external links on 2023-02-06 on the Essbase article, including those of the main link to the product and the main link to the last version of documentation?

I look at competing products, and see there similar external links. Pesec.il (talk) 18:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

I am guided by Misplaced Pages:External links. I did not remove the main link to the product in the infobox. . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Even after 8000 bytes deleted from the Journal of Marketing article, issues still persist. Even with that case, you still did an amazing job de-advertising the article. Roasted (talk) 22:02, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Mean as custard,

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

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noakhali Zilla School

I didn't add any advertisement or promotional content.

You are requested to contact me 🟥 t.me/sphenZii Schizo15523 (talk) 14:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

noakhali Zilla School

please do mention where ive done the promotional context. 🙂 i would have been very much pleased if you knocked me on telegram.

t.me/sphenZii Schizo15523 (talk) 15:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Gelareh Abbasi

Hello. Why was the Misplaced Pages page for Gelarah Abbasi removed? She is one of Iran's most famous actresses, and her films have been shown all over the world. The page was loaded with links to sources. I have no idea how to save the page! Can you lend a hand? AliFatehi (talk) 11:54, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

It was deleted because it was considered to consist of unambiguous advertising or promotion. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:09, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Maybe I didn't write this article in the right way, but she is a well-known person. Please help me get this page back. AliFatehi (talk) 09:27, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

The deletion notice on your talk page said "If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator." . . .Mean as custard (talk) 11:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education

Hello! I saw you took down 75% of the content on this page for being "promotional," but all of the content was directly from the organization's website and detailed the various programs it administers. I was very careful in remaining as objective as possible when adding the information, so please help me get that important content back so people have a more rounded understanding of what WICHE does. Thanks. 129.19.153.62 (talk) 21:56, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

I think what you consider important is only really important if you can cite independent sources which discuss it and show it is notable. . .Mean as custard (talk) 07:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Right, so then you can take it upon yourself to add sources. Taking down everything and deeming it "promotional" just doesn't make sense to me. Did you think it was promotional or just unimportant? Chowdaboy (talk) 15:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

You said it was important. I removed the content only because it was promotional. . .Mean as custard (talk) 16:09, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

And I disagree. If you can add it back, I will provide independent sources for anything I can and remove whatever I can't. Chowdaboy (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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The Broken String Band

I reverted the wholly promotional crud that was recently added to The Broken String Band. You can retag it for A7 if you feel it still meets the criteria.-- Ponyo 17:38, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Hacked?

You are making a lot of unexplained deletions. I will treat them as vandalism as that's the quickest way to restore the content. Please explain. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, why bother to consider why I might have deleted the content? . . .Mean as custard (talk) 12:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Just use edit summaries. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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I removed the {{ad}} tag you placed on BrightRoll, March 30, 2015 . I looked at the accumulated changes since you placed the tag , and it looks like quite a bit of promotional material has been removed. I removed one last bit of it and removed the tag. I won't object if you think there are still issues that need to be addressed. _signed, Willondon (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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Libvirt Advert tag?

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Thank you

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Chalmers University of Technology: Advert tag

Dear User:Mean as custard,

I noticed you added the {Advert} tag to the Misplaced Pages page for Chalmers University of Technology. After reviewing the content, I made edits to remove sections that I felt were promotional material. Could you please take another look at the wiki page and share your thoughts? Note that I have already removed the Advert Tag. Thank you for your consideration. Undercover scientist (talk) 13:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

All sorted. I notice that you have made multiple edits to this page and none to any other Misplaced Pages articles. Could it be that you gave a confict of interest?. . .Mean as custard (talk) 14:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your revision. I have a background as a student at Chalmers University of Technology. Should this be considered a potential conflict of interest, I am willing to refrain from further edits on this page. Undercover scientist (talk) 19:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

CBM (Charity)

HiUser:Mean as custard, thank you for your input. I tried to remove promotional sections from the previous version. Can you have a look again? I think there is much information that is important and not promotional, so I try to identify the promotional sections. Can you let me know, if you think any more sections are problematic?

You just reinstated the previous version, promotional material and all. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi User:Mean as custard, this is not true. You can see from the number of characters that the text has been shortened by 10% - about 1000 characters less, so I did not "just reinstate it". In my opinion, these were promotional passages. Can you please be more specific in your feedback? That's not very constructive this way, sorry to say. I also compared the article with other NGOs, it's mostly exactly the same sections. 09:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Here are a few of the promotional phrases: "create a world where every person has equal opportunities and can live free from disease and poverty", "draws on its Christian values and over 100 years of professional expertise", "to realise its vision and fulfil its mission", "dedicated to improving the quality of life for persons with disabilities in the world's poorest communities", "strives to make a significant and sustainable impact on the lives of persons with disabilities, contributing to a more inclusive and equitable world for all", "reflects its commitment". . .Mean as custard (talk) 12:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

How is describing the mandate and mission of a nonprofit organization promotional? After all, they have legal relevance and determine how an NGO MUST use its donations. Just some examples from other aproved wiki pages of other NGOs:

• Amnesty International: 'The stated mission of the organisation is to campaign for "a world in which every person enjoys all of the human rights"'
• UNICEF: 'UNICEF's programs emphasize developing community-level services to promote the health and well-being of children.'
• WWF: 'WWF revised its mission statement to: Stop the degradation of the planet's natural environment and to build a future in which humans live in harmony with nature (...)'

Every aid organisation works in accordance with its statutes, which is why its official mandate is not simply advertising – it is a legally binding framework. And as you can see, it is quite common on the Misplaced Pages pages of NGOs to describe their mandate and it is very relevant to the public. So why set such double standards in this case?

In addition, >90% of the content is a description of the historical foundation and prehistory. Wouldn't it be much more expedient to edit individual sentences or passages instead of simply rejecting everything across the board? 2003:DF:6F1A:3000:B183:B128:A730:33 (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

About your edit in Bağdat Avenue

Hello, I do not understand how the part you deleted is promotional. It just talks about the travel. Youprayteas 17:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

It read more like a tourist guide than an encyclopedia article. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

It only mentions transportation. You can remove some parts of it but I don't see why the entire paragraph should be removed. Youprayteas 17:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Removing "Advert" tag from Pacific Ridge School

I removed the {{Ad}} tag you placed on Pacific Ridge School on April 1, 2023 . I reviewed the article, made extensive revisions, and believe the issue is taken care of. I won't object if you still think there are concerns to be flagged. _signed, Willondon (talk) 14:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

External links

Hello! I appreciate your edits to remove promotional material. I wanted to reach out, as I've noticed you have been removing the "external links" section from articles. Per WP:ELYES, we should and can include links to the organizations or businesses of the article in the section at the bottom! Thanks. glman (talk) 13:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I generally only remove the external link to an organisation at the bottom of the article when it already appears in the infobox at the top. . .Mean as custard (talk) 08:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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Removing "Advert" tag from INJAZ

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Reversion of edit on Blount Island Command

Hi there! Blount Island Command needs a lot of help. Why did you revert my edit? A quick glance at my contribution history shows I'm not a vandal. I showed up at the Blount Island page to provide coordinates and also did some copy editing because it's so promotional and so poorly written I can't even tell what it's about. Is it a Marine Corps unit? It's too promotional for the military... Is it a private contractor trying to pass themselves off as a military unit? It's just too promotional to stand as it is. May I redo the copy editing? It does not at all meet Misplaced Pages's standards for quality... Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 15:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to edit it, but don't reinstate promotional material like "proud of our relationship with Marine warfighters" and "operationally invaluable in supporting our nation’s interests". . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

You recently tagged Jagdish Sheth School of Management as written like an advert

I have just removed a great swathe of brochure-like material, and detagged it. Feel free to re-tag if you believe I have not gone far enough, or to edit some more yourself 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 21:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

KNIME

Dear @Mean as custard,

Thank you very much for your input. I recognize that you are a highly experienced user, and I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to improve the KNIME Misplaced Pages entry in a way that avoids being flagged as promotional content.

For now, I have reverted your edit because I’m hoping to receive a detailed edit summary from you.

To give you some context, KNIME is a software company whose main product, KNIME Analytics Platform, has changed and evolved greatly over the past 10 years. The Misplaced Pages page had not been updated in many years, resulting in outdated and sometimes inaccurate information. This is why the edit was so extensive and resulted in a significant increase in the number of bytes (which probably caught your attention).

For example, the version you reinstated contained information about courses, but the offerings have changed dramatically, with KNIME reshaping its course curriculum. Therefore, wouldn’t it be better to have the most updated information? Or should information on courses not be included altogether?

Additionally, I understand from reading these Identifying blatant adversting guidelines that discussing a company’s mission carries a high risk of being flagged as promotional. However, my intention was to discuss the design principles of the platform from a technical perspective. This section was inspired by the Python entry and cites an academic paper, focusing on computer science concepts rather than the company's mission.

I appreciate your guidance on how to better present this information. Bassanelli (talk) 14:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC) comment added by Bassanelli (talk • contribs) 13:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I have left it as it is for now, but it reads more like a software user manual than an encyclopedia article about the company. . .Mean as custard (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. The style of content written there is fundamentally unencyclopedic, and reliant entirely on primary sources. I've re-reverted. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Pppery for your feedback.

I understand your concern on primary sources. I have therefore included the part about design principles since it references an external academic paper. This was inspired by "Design and Philosophy features" section in the wiki page for Python (programming language). Also, I updated the very outdated screenshot of the platform.

Any further feedback is welcomed Bassanelli (talk) 10:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Austere Systems

Hi @Mean as custard, too busy to prevent the deletion of the page Austere Systems which you recently deleted, i would have rather preferred to improve it and remove advertising materials/content on the page. I would request you please restore the page as a draft so i can work on it and improve it until it is ready to be published in the main space. Thank you Nuel Jr (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Mean as custard is not an admin so is not able to do that. As an admin, I would decline - the text there is fundamentally unsalvageable (from the very first sentence: Austere Systems Pvt Ltd, is a software development company providing cutting edge IT services and solutions to startups and enterprises). This has nothing to do with you being busy, it has to do with whether you are trying to describe the country from a neutral perspective or whether you are trying to advertise it to its customers which Misplaced Pages is not a venue for. You were clearly doing the latter. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Newcomer checking on advert tag

Hi @Mean as custard, https://en.wikipedia.org/HiPay has an advert tag you added in 2017. It's looking pretty good now. Is there anything I should check before removing your tag? Agnieszka653 (talk) 20:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't see any problem with it now. . .Mean as custard (talk) 22:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. Peace, Agnieszka653 (talk) 15:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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Hi @Mean as custard, https://en.wikipedia.org/Dean_Drako has your "reads like a resume" tag from May 2024. I've created a more paragraph-based encyclopedic summary -- the prior more bulleted format was due to page been being updated on an ad hoc over a 10-year period. Is there anything else I should do before removing your tag? Mukis (talk) 02:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)mukis

Thank you for removing the tag @Mean as custard. Mukis (talk) 18:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

National Digital Library of India

Dear @Mean as custard,

I recently observed that there has been a significant edit to the National Digital Library of India's page. It might be more accurate to describe this as "vandalism" rather than an "edit." A substantial part of the article has been replaced with outdated information, and numerous inaccuracies have been introduced without proper citations. Readers seek the most current information, which is their right. The privilege to edit does not extend to distorting facts and figures. Please refrain from misusing the editing privileges granted to you. I have reported this matter to the Misplaced Pages administrators. Dr. Anirban Mukherjee (talk) 05:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I have again reverted your edit as it contains unacceptably promotional and uncited content. Please tell me in what way you have notified the administrators, so I may justify my action to them if necessary. . .Mean as custard (talk) 16:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Health crisis

Hello @Mean as custard, it appears the Health Crisis page https://en.wikipedia.org/Health_crisis has been totally replaced and recategorized as something else entirely. I did not attempt an edit as it seems too strange. 163.5.171.53 (talk) 17:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert. It looks like a rogue edit by an automated bot; I have reverted it to the last good version. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

I would like to discuss an Edit made to the Grant Union High School (Sacramento California) Wiki page

You recently reverted edits I made to my schools page and id like to know why? Everything added there was all factual information and true and added alot to the page, Grant is 91 years old and has a deep history that is very important to me and would like to know why you deem it "promotional" JesseOrtega (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

The changes to the article had no references and read like the school prospectus rather than an encyclopedia article: "has a rich history", "the pride of its students in their community’s achievements", "the school’s commitment to excellence", dedicated to promoting high academic achievement", "instills values such as loyalty, patriotism, and accountability, "mission is to close the achievement gap", "designed to equip students with the skills". . .Mean as custard (talk) 09:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Reversal of edits to Tata Memorial Centre Wiki page

Hello. I had edited the page https://en.wikipedia.org/Tata_Memorial_Centre, which has a lot of old, incomplete and incorrect information, and added multiple factual updates, including the current logo of Tata Memorial (the logo on the page is an old one). I had removed incorrect or irrelevant information such as regarding the Konark Cancer Foundation or the Tata Clinic. However, all my edits have been undone and the page has been restored to the prior status. I can see some of these were done by you. Can you please help me in ensuring that the page remains accurate and uptodate? I am looking forward to working together on this. Ad baheti (talk) 16:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Factual edits are fine, but the material you added was over-promotional, e.g. "TMC has been the torchbearer for research in affordable and accessible cancer prevention and care. TMC boasts of having a state-of-the-art Clinical Research Secretariat (CRS) to support clinical research." . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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Company websites/external links

Why are you removing links to company websites from "external links" sections, such as here, or recent edits here? You removing them is very disruptive when I want to quickly get to the website to get the company logo. I have to google the company site then & check it's the correct one, because you removed the links.

Such links are perfectly fine per WP:ELOFFICIAL. --TheImaCow (talk) 21:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I generally only remove external links from the bottom of the article if they already appear in the infobox at the top of the page and the article is intended to be promotional. . .Mean as custard (talk) 10:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, at the first link, the company website was no longer linked anywhere, and at the second link, you broke the display of the {{Commons category}} template, which now renders at the bottom of the "References" section, where it dosen't belong.

I support removing promotional content, but a simple link to the main page of the official website, both in the infobox & external link section -especially if the "External" section already contains other links- is not promotional (Except maybe some rare special case)

See the wikipedia page linked above, specifically The official website should be included in infoboxes such as {{infobox company}}, and by convention are listed first in the ==External links== section. --TheImaCow (talk) 12:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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A user named 14GTR has broken hatnote rules multiple times, and I fixed most (if not all) of the pages affected, but he's trying to revert them back to the versions that broke the rules and refuses to listen to me. Could you please help me? GilaMonster536 (talk) 22:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion your approach is rather confrontational and rather than revert what I consider are trivial changes you should discuss them with the editor concerned before making them. . .Mean as custard (talk) 10:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. GilaMonster536 (talk) 22:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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I was not responsible for the edits you appear to be referring to. . .Mean as custard (talk) 16:27, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Revert edits on Kardex

Dear @Mean as custard, I noticed that all my edits on the Kardex site https://en.wikipedia.org/Kardex_Group have been reverted, although I used the language that is also being used on other listed intralogistic companies such as Interroll, Jungheinrich and Kion. The page was completely outdated with missing and wrong information, not really of value for the reader. Reverting all the edits makes this site unusable as a source. Please check and revert. Minerviatta (talk) 16:54, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I felt the changes were much too promotional. Any article that begins by describing its subject as "a global leader in intralogistics solutions" could hardly be otherwise. . .Mean as custard (talk) 18:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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Dear Mean as custard,

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I recently made some updates to the Rabdan Academy Misplaced Pages article (link) to reflect current information about the institution. However, I noticed the edits were reverted due to concerns about promotional tone. I appreciate your diligence in maintaining Misplaced Pages's neutrality and would like to ensure that my contributions comply with its content guidelines.

To address your concerns, I’ve revised the content to align more closely with Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view and verifiability requirements. Below, I’ve included the updated content with citations. I would appreciate your feedback or assistance in incorporating these changes into the article. Alternatively, please let me know if there are additional improvements required before resubmitting.

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Revised Misplaced Pages Content:

Rabdan Academy is a government-owned higher education institution in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, established to provide training and education for professionals in the Safety, Security, Defence, Emergency Preparedness, and Crisis Management (SSDEC) sectors (source).

The Academy is known for offering academic and vocational programs and has received a "5-star" rating in the Teaching and Employability categories under the QS Stars University Rating System (source; source).

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History

Rabdan Academy was established in 2013 under Law No. 7 issued by the late Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan. It is accredited by the UAE’s Commission for Academic Accreditation (CAA) (source; source; source).

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Academic Programs

The Academy provides undergraduate and graduate programs in areas such as Business Continuity Management, Integrated Emergency Management, Homeland Security, Defence and Security, Policing and Security Leadership, Systems Engineering Specializing in Defence, and Intelligence Analysis (source).

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Vocational Education

Rabdan Academy also offers vocational education programs and professional development services to meet the training needs of professionals in the SSDEC sectors. These programs are designed to respond to regional and global challenges in safety and security (source).

The Academy collaborates with world-leading academic and research institutions to manage capacity-building projects and provide technical consultations to organizations seeking to align with international standards (source).

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Research and Innovation

The institution conducts research in fields such as policing, security, defence, business continuity, and disaster management. Rabdan Academy works with global academic and research partners to advance innovation in these areas (source; source; source).

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Rabdan Security and Defence Institute (RSDI)

In 2024, Rabdan Academy launched the Rabdan Security and Defence Institute (RSDI) during the International Security and National Resilience (ISNR) Conference. The RSDI is a specialized think tank focusing on security and defence studies, aiming to provide high-level research and consultation in these areas. (source; source).

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Vice-President (to be updated on the right side of the article)

The current Vice-President of Rabdan Academy is Salem Saeed Al Saeedi (source; source). AlBadareenYazeed (talk) 05:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

It mostly seems all right, though I don't like the bit about "collaborates with world-leading academic and research institutions": we need to know from an independent source who they are and why they are 'world-leading'. . .Mean as custard (talk) 09:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I understand your concern regarding the phrase 'collaborates with world-leading academic and research institutions.' To address this, I can provide additional sources to verify these collaborations and clarify the institutions involved. Here are some references that support these collaborations with academic and research institutions:

https://ra.ac.ae/en/about-rabdan/strategic-partners

https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/companies-news/rabdan-academy-elevates-international-standing-in-2023-em0xogw0

https://ra.ac.ae/en/media/news/rabdan-academy-and-monash-university-forge-partnership-to-support-research-and-educational-projects

https://unitar.org/about/news-stories/press/unitar-partner-rabdan-academy-training-and-partnerships-arab-gulf-region-and-across-middle-east

https://www.mediaoffice.abudhabi/en/security/rabdan-academy-partners-with-middle-east-institute-to-advance-research-and-development-in-defence-and-security

https://ra.ac.ae/en/media/news/zayed-military-university-signs-an-mou-for-a-strategic-partnership-with-leading-universities-in-the-country

Please let me know if these sources are sufficient or if further adjustments are needed. I look forward to your feedback! AlBadareenYazeed (talk) 12:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)