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== Improving this article ==
==Unique==
Being a pedant, I changed the phrase 'relatively unique' to 'relatively unusual'. Strictly speaking, the word unique cannot be qualified - something is either unique or it isn't. It does not make sense to describe something by degrees of uniqueness. ] (]) 22:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC) Just an FYI, I've gotten some books from the library and will be attempting to clean this page up over the coming weeks! All thoughts/comments/help/revisions are welcome! ] (]) 02:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


The etimology of Zanzibar's name as provided on this page is quite poor as compared to the one that can be found on the separate page on Zanzibar. Please copypaste that description here. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
==Kagera==
'Ziwa Magharibi' was changed to 'Kagera' many years ago. See for example the official Tanzania government web site: http://www.tanzania.go.tz/regions/kagera/index.html


I'm very confused by this article. Mentioned is the new constitution and election in 1995, and the name of the political party and president elected. Has there been no election since then? ] (]) 00:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
] 05:57, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)Rweba
:I can work on that and expand 20 years of history. ] (]) 00:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)


I want to talk about Tanzania independence,
==Tsunami?==
Its known that the country is a merger of two, Tanganyika and Zanzibar, now to put more details, Yes Zanzibar got independence 1963, at such it was a monarch under sultan of Zanzibar, later ] happened to overthrow the sultan, the event which was very important in creating tanzania, in celebrating their independence Tanzania has at least three dates, Tanganyika independence,Zanzibar Revolution and the day of the union, now I tried to include this Zanzibar Revolution here but it was removed, if we have to put the information about something please let put it all, no biasing please ] (]) 06:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
The line "10 people killed in 2004 Tsunami" appears at the bottom of the History section. I do not believe that this was a significant historical event for Tanzania. Is there any reason for this fact being included, or should it be deleted?
] 02:57, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Please take a look at the national anthem's CC / closed captioning in English. Someone has added CC that is inappropriate. ] (]) 21:41, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
'''It's just telling history, it never said it was signifigent.'''


== Experienced Editors ==
==Official language==
Can some experienced editors provide some insight as to where this article needs work. I would be willing to fix or write anything. Just not sure where to start. -- ] (]) 14:23, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Is their any source, where I can check that really both Swahili and English are official languages in Tanzania? I always thought it was only Swahili, unlike Kenya, where it's both. ] 15:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
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When the UN took its vote to seat a delegation from Beijing instead of from Taiwan in 1971, members of the Tanzanian delegation started dancing in the General Assembly. You might start there. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:30, 31 July 2019 (UTC)</small>


== Different PPPs ==
*Some of them spoke egnlish also<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:03, 19 January 2006 </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
There are different GDP PPPs used in the economy section and the bar on the right. Both seem to be correct but one used the World Bank and the other used the International Monetary Fund. Should this be changed? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I believe if you add "(IMF)" or "(World Bank)" it would be fine. However, Looking at other countries infobox it seems they have stuck with the IMF figures. ] (]) 18:24, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


== Suggestion of subsection on women ==
I could not find anything about that on any official government website. The best I could get is information from embassies. There seems be some lack of consession.
Hello,
*"The official language is Kiswahili, which is universally spoken .. ,and is the medium of instruction in all primary schools. English is second official language, the country’s commercial language and also the main teaching language for all scientific subjects in secondary schools and higher education institutions..."
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a subsection on women should be added to the section on demographics.
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<br>Kind regards,</br>
*""Swahili is the national and official language while English is the business language."
] (]) 12:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
:<br><br>
:This article has several sentences in women, which should be merged into a seperate subsection. I would like to set up a subsection with some additional content next month.
*""Official language: Kiswahili & English"<br>
<br>Kind regards,</br>
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] (]) 05:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
*""English is the official language of education; administration and business while Swahili is the most widely used language."
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== Official Language ==
:When i was working as a doctor in Tanzania, Swahili was the National and official language, but we used English in the hospitals as it was used as the language of education for the nurses and doctors, and also to assist the English and foreign doctors working in Tanzania. I think the embassies which have replied above have answered this particular query. Thanks to them for being involved with Misplaced Pages. --] 18:39, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
The CIA Factbook suggests that Swahili is the official language<ref>https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tz.html</ref>. Does anyone have any input on that? ] (]) 20:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


:I do not seem to find any material that states that Arabic is truly an official language in Zanzibar. ] (]) 14:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
::The important point is, of course, whether English is mentioned in some law to be an official language. I'm fairly sure Swahili is mentioned, as Nyerere made it official language after independence (probably with some law). But I'm not sure whether English is mentioned anywhere apart from in the educational laws (to be medium of instruction in sec. schools and universities). This alone wouldn't make it an official langauge. ] 14:37, 29 July 2005 (UTC)


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Dr. ], those replies were not made by the embassies, but retrieved from their websites. That kiswahili is ''de facto'' official language is not in dispute. The question is: what are the constitutional official languages of Tanzania? / -] 19:35, 21 November 2005 (UTC)


== Figures in Science and Technology ==
The Tanzanian Constitution does not clearly state that Swahili or English is the offical language. In one of the sections about qualities of individuals fit to run for the presidency, it states that he/she must be able to speak swahili or english fluently. The government fully functions in swahili and it is expected to do so. Being that i grew up in Tanzania, every government form and official notice i came across is in swahili, (some government services are provided both in english and swahili, like business license applications etc). English is just widely spoken. For More Info : ] 22:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
The figures in the ] seem to me to be beyond the scope of this article. They are very appropriate elsewhere (in the noted Main Article of ]). While generally I agree with the ] policy, I thought I would post here before deleting content. ] (]) 17:34, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


== Knowledgeable people ==
:Given this bit of information, it sounds like ] no language is official, and ] just Swahili. So I put it that way in the table. ] 20:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I believe this is the correct name that can be found in many country articles? Thank you--] (]) 14:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)


== Religion statistics ==
An anonymous user changed the official language part back to "Swahili, English" on 10th of March 2006 with the comment "Added official languages, as per the Embassy of Tanzania in Germany". Given the above noticed contradictions between various embassies, we can't consider them trustworthy sources of information. ]'s comment above seems to suggest that there are no de jure official languages, and only Swahili is de facto official. No one has called into doubt his comment. So I changed this part back to what it said before. ] 21:13, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I disagree with the edits of the user {{u|Kitutia}}, because they do not match the source that is listed. I ] for a new source if they want to change the statistics, but they changed back again after, so I'm writing here so we can discuss it. I appreciate thoughts on the disagreement to find a solution and what should be done next. Thank you! <span style="font-family:'Wreathe','Centaur','serif';color:#2a1657;background:#e2daf1">—&#123;&#123;u&#124;]&#125;&#125;|✝️|they/their|😹|]|☮️|John 15:12|🍂</span> 04:09, 11 December 2018 (UTC)


Do you have any suggestions on the actual statistics and their respective references? ] (]) 17:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Both English and kiswahili are national and official language but they differ as where u will use one.


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:Are you intending to say that both are de jure official. Then you need to mention sources. If you agree with ] that there are no de jure official languages in Tanzania, then you supposedly mean that English is de facto official. From the experience that I have of living in Tanzania, I can only agree with Omoo's view, that nowadays only Swahili is really de facto official. The fact that the government fully functions in Swahili and is expected to do so also suggests that only Swahili is de facto official. ] 18:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Long Leading paragraph ==
===New point concerning the official status of English===
Understand that Tanzania is many facets on its importance. Human evolution history, classical history, Islamic colonization, World War, Nationalism, Environment... But having very long leading paragraphs actually confuses casual reader. --] (]) 02:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
According to the Tanzanian Swahili A-level textbook "Nadharia ya lugha Kiswahili 1" by J. A. Masebo and N. Nyangwine, English is used in higher courts in Tanzania (i.e. only the courts lowest in the legal hierarchy use Swahili). In order to decide, whether this is enough evidence for English being an official language in Tanzania, we need a precise definition of "official language".


== GDP ==
Unfortunately, the English Misplaced Pages article '']'' just first states a definition equivalent to "de jure official language", and only later admits that there are also de facto official languages, without giving a precise definition of "official language" that allows for this.
It’s been very long since the GDP both PPP and nominal has been changed and so are it’s per capita income. Do we have any new sources or updated information from the government? ] (]) 09:56, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Nlivataye}} Long? It's updated couple of times a year from IMF quarterly projections, so it's not been a long time at all. The figures are, as far as stats are concerned, up to date. Do you suggest just arbitrarily changing the figures for no apparent reason with no reference like you have over at , and to push some kind of an agenda? Don't vandalize. ] (]) 02:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


No that was never my intention. From now on I will always communicate with you here and present reliable sources and evidence before posting ] (]) 09:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
However, ] gives a definition that accounts for both de jure and de facto official languages, namely that an official language is a language used by the civil service and in the communication between the civil service and the population. According to this definition, the usage of English in higher courts cannot be considered evidence for English being an official language. However, later the German article says that there is a wider sense of "official language" according to which the language(s) used in courts, in parliament and in writing the laws are also considered official languages. According to the ], this wider sense of "official language" is also the definition for "official language" given by UNESCO.


== Nyerere Bridge: Not a suspension bridge ==
So should we use the definition that the German Misplaced Pages considers the main meaning of "official language", or should we use the definition that UNESCO is said to use (the second option only seems sensible if we can confirm that this really is the definition used by UNESCO). What do others think? ] 00:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The photo's description is incorrect, as that is obviously a cable-stayed bridge. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Corona virus, musicians and artists ==
===English is co-official language===
I think we should have a separate section for health and we should cover the way corona virus is being handled by the current gvt of Magufuli and his minions. Also I think it’s unfair that we don’t mention the many musicians and stars that dominate East African scenery in the greater Swahili Speaking world; people like Diamond, Alikiba, AY, Ray C as well as actors both deceased and alive ] (]) 19:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
According to English is official language: "Kiswahili and English are the Official languages, however the former is the national language. While Kiswahili is the medium of instructions at primary school level; English is medium at Higher educational levels." ] 07:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


== removed from lede until referenced ==
according to the 1998 edition of the encyclopedia of people and places, theofficial languages are both swhili and english] 13:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
" One of the oldest known ethnic groups still existing, the Hadzabe, appears to have originated in Tanzania, and their oral history recalls ancestors who were tall and were the first to use fire, medicine, and lived in caves, much like Homo erectus or Homo heidelbergensis who lived in the same region before them. " - This is not reflected in the body of the article, either. ] (]) 16:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


==Languages==
:None of these sources is precise about whether they mean de jure official or de facto official. The above discussion suggests that there is no de jure official language, so until someone can mention a Tanzanian law that states otherwise, we should assume here that neither of the two languages is de jure official.
There are more than 100 ethnicities but there are no over 100 languages spoken in Tanzania,the reference and data you used is inaccurate or out of date. Tanzanians make the most population of swahili speakers and almost 99 percent of Tanzanians speak swahili and use it as a first language it's a recognized national language and now it's a de jure official language as it was signed by the President weeks ago.
:De facto officiality on the other hand is, as mentioned above, not a clear cut concept. As I wrote above, English is used in higher courts, so it could be considered de facto official (and maybe that's why these sources call it official). But in a more narrow sence of "official" (="used in the administration"), it seems that only Swahili is de facto official. ] 08:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Tanzania has more than 100 tribes but it's no means of identity,there's much interaction amoung tribes,they live together marry each other speak swahili and slowly tribal languages are fading and are not used or spoken anymore. Swahili is the only language that connect Tanzanians and is spoken as the first language. ] (]) 10:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
:: In that case add English and explain how it is de facto. ] (]) 23:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:::This also comes from the government website, http://www.tanzania.go.tz/educationf.html .
::::"Medium of Instruction


Very true. The 10% figure for native swahili speakers is an outrage ] (]) 14:31, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
::::The main feature of Tanzania’s education system is the bilingual policy, which requires children to learn both Kiswahili and English. English is essential, as it is the language which links Tanzania and the rest of the world through technology, commerce and also administration. The learning of the Kiswahili enables Tanzania’s students to keep in touch with their cultural values and heritage. English is taught as compulsory subject in the primary education whereas at post primary education is the medium of instruction. With regard the Kiswahili, it is the medium of instruction at primary education while at tertiary education is taught as compulsory subject at secondary education and as option at tertiary education."
:::Out of the Tanzanians I know, the younger they are, the more comfortable and confident they are in English. It seems that Tanzania has almost completed a transition to a point where both languages are official. So why not say: Official language(s): Kiswahili, English (almost official)? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:47, 10 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::One should clearly seperate the concepts of "official language" and "medium of instruction". Unfortunately, the article ] isn't very clear about the definition of "de facto official language" (no language is de iure official in Tanzania, so all we are talking about is de facto officiality). ] on the other hand has more precise definitions: It defines ''official language in the narrow sense'' to be the language(s) used in administration and in the government; ''official language in the broad sense'' also covers the language(s) used in the parliament and the courts. By these definitions, only Swahili is an official language in the narrow sense. In the broad sense, English '''could be considered''' an official language too, as it is used in the higher courts (though not in the lower courts, nor in the parliament).
:::::I don't think that it makes much sense to mention English in the table. But we should go into more detail about the issue in the section "Languages"; see the German and Spanish versions of this article for a more detailed account of the official language issue.
:::::(Even though it's irrelevant to the official language issue, I would like to respond to Thecurran's claim about younger people being more confident with English: In the 1970's Tanzanian university students used to talk in English to each other; now they almost exclusively use Swahili. Additionally, in university and secondary school classes, often Swahili or a mix between English and Swahili is used, even though officially only English is allowed (as it is the medium of instruction at those levels); I believe that that was much less common some decades ago. Nevertheless, it's probably true that English is known more among the younger than among the older; but that's due to the general raise of the level of education. If you just compare people of one level of education but of different ages, I think it's more likely that you find that the older people speak English better than the younger people). ] (]) 20:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
*--Swahili spoken by most of Tanzanians,But english is the medium Language of instructions from primary to secondary levels including Legal system,You can see,advirtisements are in English,Tanzania constitution is in English,language of instruction from secondary school FOR all lessons excluding Language lessons,but still Swahili is widely spoken,Most FM radio stations broadcast in billingual,Tanzanians passport written in both languages,but we can not find any where to show that ENGLISH IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE.] (]) 10:30, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


It depends on what you mean by "native speaker". As long as "tribal" languages are spoken, they are part of the background of every newborn individual of the "tribe", alongside swahili: he learns his community language in his family, then he learns swahili at school. In addition to this, I suggest not to use the adjective "tribal": this has nothing to do with political correctness (that I hate); I think that every culture deserves respect even if it is not recognized at an official level. I am a white European but I love Africa and its immense cultural richness perhaps more than some Africans do...--] (]) 14:56, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
== A see also section for politician biography ==


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Plus, I would have been happy to read where this guy is coming from
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Freeman Mbowe is business man comes from Kilimanjaro area.
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== Map ==


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Is there any way to get a better map of Tanzania? I understand wanting to show where in Africa it is, but this map does a horrible job of showing the shape of Tanzania. Especially since at that size, the important island of Zanzibar should be at least a little visible. --] 15:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
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== Religion ==
Shouldn't religion be mentioned somewhere? Tue Jan 17 19:24:49 UTC 200
religion has been mentioned before majorly 3 Christian,muslims and traditional religins.
:I was going to say the same thing. I'm going to find a place to link to ] in here. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


== Foreign relations section ==
== History ==
Greats, I believe Foreign relations section section needs to be redone. I notice there are many paragraphs on relations/events with single countries, all dated (also sourced) during JK's phase. These are no longer the case for relations of today, and phase 6.
Does anybody besides me think that ]'s ] and ] should be placed in ] instead of under History in ]? ] 18:04, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Please could you include more on Tanzania's history pre-colonisation. The current summary seems rather Euro-centric. Cheers.


Because these things are not the case for today, I do not think they should be included on main page of Tanzania. Maybe in history section of the Foreign Relations article?
Why should isidingo mentioned in history of Tanzania??that is south african series not and never to be part of our history.
U can add about the well known leadrs like mkwawa?mangi meli,mangi meza?Mw.J.K nyerere if u want history or how Dar Es Salaam has started


Another idea is to not have paragraphs for individual events like these in article that is rarely updated. They have been there for almost 10 years, many outdate also many years. I was looking at country articles that have FA status. In their main article they only have a summery of foreign relations.
The national museum in Arusha should probably be mentioned. Rich in pictures and also quite a few items. Think I even have a picture of it somewhere. Should upload it to the media part for public use.] 20:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
--history in tanzania is the only problem as it was not tought in school and now the only history which is tought is european history,majimaji war in brief and no topic about zanzibar revolution,its almost impossible to retrieve this country history.most tanzanian history is mentioned only dates rather than details] (]) 10:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


Perhaps it would be best if this main page only we also only had summery of the foreign relations, rather than new paragraphs for individual events and each country? Cover important things like EAC, AU and UN with only 1 or 2 small paragraph of bilateral relationships. Avoiding adding events that will be quickly outdated since TZ article is not as often maintained or updated.


Many well rated country articles do not separate the bilateral/multilateral sections. If TZ had a title-3 level section I think Arusha as HQ of EAC, and seat of AU courts, and UN courts for things like Rwanda. And place for treaties. This I think would be very informative information on article readers will benefit from. Arusha is better for its own section than the outdated bilateral information.
Slaves from Tanzania were bought to somalia by somalis <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I welcome your thoughts and ideas! I hope to take a look at fixing the section sometime soon. If I do something others think is wrong please let me know! If you have other good ideas for this (or any other) sections please let me know. It would be nice to see the article as informative of current realities as possible, and other non-current information well place in marked history sections. ] (]) 07:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
The photograph of Lettow-Vorbeck could have impossibly been taken march 1918 in Dar-es-Salaam, as Lettow-Vorbeck was in Portuguese Mozambique at the time, still fighting the English (and Portuguese). My guess would be that it was actually taken in 1919. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:00, 14 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Move discussion in progress ==
== Corruption and unneccesary government spending? ==
There is a move discussion in progress on ] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Tanzania's food security#Requested move 12 September 2022 crosspost --> —] 12:03, 12 September 2022 (UTC)


== Major errors in the Tanzania page. ==
''Short-term economic progress also depends on curbing corruption and cutting on unnecessary public spending''
According to the page on Tanzania the president is Kanye West?? And that it borders Texas to the North and is a country in East Canada?? ] (]) 16:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


==lmao @ this end stat==
Is government corruption a big problem in Tanzania? I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that it was one of the better countries in Africa. The citation given regarding an aircraft purchase doesn't really have anything to do with it. Also, 'unnecessay public spending' seems to imply social programs or something of the sort, of which I don't see any evidence.
"making it the most populous country located entirely south of the equator."


In the sense that Indonesia technically extends north of the equatorial line.
Yes goverment corruption is a big problem in Tanzania though thats why we have PCB


I'm going to remove it. If the OG author reverts it, I will not die on this hill.
* Corruption is a very big problem. See EPA scandal and the Richmond Power company shady dealings for examples at a national level, and it's extremely wide-spread at a local level. ] (]) 16:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


] (]) 10:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
== grammer mistakes in the article ?? ====


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I'm not an expert on the subject but i guess there are certain gramatical mistakes which need to be fixed .. for example i notices a nimber of "has" is hte history subsection which probably has to be replaced with "had" .. experts please do a check on this .
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== GDP ==
grammar?
Can someone update the per capita income already using IMF or world bank updates. I once did and my edits were reversed ] (]) 08:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
:I suggest you try editing these yourself--after all that's the purpose of Misplaced Pages ;) ] 21:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


:Under what account did you do it? I'm sure if you add a source and an edit summary, there is unlikely to be any objection. ] (]) 12:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
== Citing sources?? ==


== Conflicting pronunciations ==
What is the wikipedia community standard about citing sources? The entire section about Economy seems to be lifted verbatim from the CIA World Factbook... here: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tz.html#Econ
Right at the beginning of the article our English IPA pronunciation disagrees with our English pronunciation respelling. I doubt {{IPAc-en|z|ə}} is meant to represent the same sound as {{respelling|zay}}, but I don't know if either is incorrect. - <span class="monospaced">]</span> (] | ]) 21:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
] 22:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


== Pan-Africanism ==
--] 08:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
The usual suspects have suggested that the Arusha Declaration underscores Tanzania's commitment to Pan-Africanism - er, no it doesn't! This kind of historical linkage to the ideological hobby-horse of the 'diaspora' is all throughout African History articles on Misplaced Pages. Almost like Misplaced Pages is serving to create the African History some Americans wish it had! There is a singular clause in the Declaration that mentions African Unity however, if you were to take for example the nominal "all people are created equal" clause (or any other) you could make an equally bogus case that the Arusha Declaration underscores a commitment to Christianity (or similar) - which it doesn't. Pan-Africanism is not mentioned in the Arusha Declaration and was known by the founders of Independant Tanzania at the time many of whom would become extremely averse to it. ] (]) 13:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


== Updates ==
: I agree re sources. This article appears to be rather one-sided in its historical perspective in that it more or less condemns colonialism and fails to mention any of its benefits. There are a great many excellent academic source books on Tanganyika and even on German East Africa. ] 09:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


Much of the statistics on the page are many years, if not over a decade, out of date. Will try start to fix this but hoping this comment draws some attention for help in doing so. ] (]) 00:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
--Anon user 09:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


== Error in geographical data: Lake Tanganyika max depth conflated with elevation below sea level ==
: Also missing are any reference to sources supporting the "questionable" motives of the World Bank funding, or any sources to support the described decline in life expectancy etc. If such strong statements can't be supported with citations, then I believe they should be removed.


I stumbled upon what I believe to be an error, but I am not an experienced editor, so I'm hoping someone with more experience might take it up if I'm in fact correct.
== President and Prime Minister, government and cabinet ==


The "Geography" section states that "The country is the site of Africa's highest and lowest points: ], at 5,895 metres (19,341 ft) above sea level, and the floor of ], at 1,471 metres (4,826 ft) below sea level, respectively".
I'd like to write on Tanzania's politics to the ]. It's hard to understand the text here. ] says that the President is the head of government, ] says: "The president appoints a ''prime minister who serves as the government's leader'' in the National Assembly. The president selects his cabinet from among National Assembly members." So, does "government" refer to the entire National Assembly here, and "cabinet" to the ministers? ] 18:23, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:The president is the Head of State and the Head of Government. The prime minister is the principal assistant to the President, leading the day-to-day functions and affairs of the Government, including the the National Assembly. The National Assembly consists Members of Parliament, and the Cabinet (selected from the National Assembly) are ministers. See the .--] 18:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps this page will be helpful: ]. The page shows the members of parliament, their constituencies, and their cabinet positions (if any). The information is presented in alphabetical order by last name, and then again arranged by constituency. ] 13:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


I believe this is incorrect. As per the Lake Tanganyika article, it has a ''maximum depth'' of 1,470 metres (4,820 ft), but a ''surface elevation'' of 773 m (2,536 ft). So the maximum lake depth should equate to approximately '''697 m (2,287 ft)''' below sea level. ] (]) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
== Capital ==


== second most german speaking country after Germany??? ==
Which capital is it? Dodoma and Dar es salaam are 2 different cities! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 19:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
:Dar es Salaam used to be the capital and is still the biggest city and most important business hub in the country. Dodoma is the capital where the Parliament is established. It is something like Washington D.C.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:December 2006|&#32;December 2006|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


This is misleading in the first introduction that Tanzania is the second most german speaking country in the world after Germany???😀😀😀 could barely get a hundred thousand people who speak German let alone say it has more German speakers than 8 million Austrians or Swiss come on ] (]) 23:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
There is inaccurate information on Tanzania in this article. Dodoma was designated as the new political capital in 1973 not 1996. All government offices were to have been transfered by the early 1980's, but weren't for various reasons including lack of sufficient water supply and most likely because no one wanted to move from Dar es Salaam, which is on the shores of the Indian Ocean to Dodoma which is in the middle of nowhere. Although new Parliament building were erected, they are only occupied for a few weeks each year in the month of June, when government officials all pile into their SUVs and make the 6 hour journey. There is only one ministry that has relocated to Dodoma and only partially. The introduction should be corrected to reflect this.- Dagobert, December 9, 2007, 2037 EAT. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:38, 9 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:I have reverted the addition. ] (]) 03:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
The article on Tanzania says the capital moved from Dar es Salaam in 1996, the article on Dar es Salaam says 1974, the article on Dodoma says plans were made in 1973 and the the National Assembly moved in 1996. Seems to me we need one consistent answer. Perhaps: "Plans were made in the early 1970s to move the capital inland to Dodoma. These plans were approved in 1974, the National Assembly did not move until 1996 and many government offices remain in the old capital." ] (]) 07:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
--I'm tanzanian bt I don't know my capital until today,maybe I don't know the meaning as well] (]) 10:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


== tropical cyclones in tanzania ==
== Proposed WikiProject ==


CoI: I am a coauthor on the paper below.
In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Eastern Africa at ] whose scope would include Tanzania. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. ] 16:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Tropical cyclones rarely make landfall in Tanzania, but recently there have been occurrences. It may be useful to include in the climate section of this page reference to this paper which discusses historical occurrences of cyclones: https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/hydr/22/9/JHM-D-21-0017.1.xml

The key recent example is Hidaya, and this post from the regional climate centre references this paper I'm suggesting when describing that event https://x.com/IGAD_CPAC/status/1786304672937939111 ] (]) 11:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
==ˌtænzəˈniə==
I have asked for a citation with the <nowiki>{{cite}}</nowiki> tag for the pronounciation ˌtænzəˈniə but it keeps being deleated. The reason I ask is that I'm pretty sure the correct pronounciation is actually something like ˈtɑnˌzæniə (probably not quite correct as I'm not good with IPA). This pronounciation also seems more logical to me, given the evolution from ] and ]. Anyway... If its correct can we please have a citeation, else find out which is correct and change it. Thanks. ] 05:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:Alright, I've added a reference. --] 06:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I am interested in the project ] (]) 17:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

==If help or clarification or sources or information is needed...==
If anyone needs any information about tanzania or clarification or anything, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. I live in dar-es-salaam, tanzania, and I'll do my best to get information that you ask for.
] 20:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:Welcome, just start editing. Add what is missing, correct what is wrong. --] 21:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

== Information Please ==

I am currently involved in Model U.N. My country is Tanzania. I was wondering if you had any information on Tanzania's political allies and adversaries or had any helpful sites. ] 23:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== History section rewrite ==

The history section is 2800 words and the whole article is 5450 words, so it's just over half the whole thing. The main article ] is only 1400 words. The history seciton also reads as if it has been cobbled together from other articles -- it's out of sequence, repetitive in places and contradictory. As well as inline citations it lacks wikilinks and recognition of other articles such as ], ], ], ], and so on. I suggest cutting by 60% and moving useful material to ]. I would have a go but I'm working through a list of other priorities. ] 10:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. --] 15:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Either under History of Tanzania or under Economy there is need to mention that Zinjanthopus (the oldest skul of what could be the first human being) was discovered in Tanzania at Olduvai George. ] (]) 17:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Left ==

Nowhere says they drive on the left. I think i'll be interested to have it.--] 12:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== percent vs percentage points ==

Currently the economy section reads "The impact of this power gap is estimated to have reduced national GDP growth by at least four percent to 5.9 for 2006." What is probably meant are four ]s rather than four percent, because growth reducing by four percent is quite a small difference. Growth reducing by four percent to 5.9 percent means that it was 6.136 percent the year before. If it was 9.9 percent the year before, then we need to write "percentage points" instead of "percent". ] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

== HIstory section ==

] is top-heavy. I found a similar problem at the history section of ]. I lopped off most of it, merged the good stuff into ], wrote a lede for that, and rewrote that more briefly as an appropriate history section for Zanzibar. (Comments and amendments welcome over there.) I see the history section here, and its (non)-relationship with ], have received the same criticism. I propose the same attention. Any objections? ] (]) 21:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Done. ] (]) 13:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

== Vocabulary precision ==

"No language is de jure official, but Swahili is the de facto official national language, used for inter-ethnic communication and for official matters."

''De jure'' means legal and then "official". So if Swahili is the official language, it is also de jure, not "de facto".] (]) 17:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Mafia ==

Th island of Mafia (near Pemba) is nowhere mentioned in the article. See <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Languages ==

The ] article states that swahili is spoken by 90% of Tanzanians, but doesn't say what other languages are spoken by the groups that do not speak Swahili. The section on languages in this article doesn't clarify the point either. Does someone want to research what languages are spoken by non-Swahili speakers specifically? -] (]) 23:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
They also speak Somali mostly ethnic Brawinis in Zanbir <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Demographics section of Tanzania article ==

The Demographics section of the Tanzania article is a single paragraph that seems to be directed at correcting or changing information about a single ethnic group in a single area, not about the demographics of the country as a whole.

Considering the diverse demographics of Zanzibar alone, and considering the size and diversity of Tanganyika on the mainland, this section really needs to be greatly expanded, but I am not qualified to do that.

] (]) 16:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you ].
Whoever is making these unconstructive and silly edits to the Demographics section should stop. To whoever is doing this, this is about the Demographics of Tanzania, not that we should include certain information and that this tribe lives in that area. It's probably best to put this in the article 'Demographics of Tanzania' and place a hidden comment beside it.
But, having said that, I and many others read this article regularly and I am becoming increasingly sick and tired of that unnecessary information being there. I do not have the time to spare to edit it though.
--] (]) 11:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== How many districts? ==

The regions and districts section says there are 98 as well as 99 districts. The section links to a page saying there are 127 districts. ] (]) 22:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

uzuri hulokuwanao hukose kweli <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:52, 13 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Proposed merger with Education in Tanzania ==
I suggest that this article be merged with ]. Education is a topic, which is important enough to be added. Furthermore, ] has not much content. ] (]) 15:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:I oppose the merger. The Tanzania article is long enough as it is, so splitting off into subarticles is appropriate. -] <small><sup>(] • ])</sup></small> 07:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

'''APPROVE''' It needs to have a short section on education, just a paragraph or so, and than it can be linked to the main one. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
'''Oppose'''. There is clearly enough information in the article to sustain an article. ] ] 19:36, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:I have a suggestion: The content of ] should be integrated in this article, but the article ] could be kept. I would integrate additional content into that article after its content would be integrated into ]. ] (]) 19:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey folks. I just merged a very small part of the education article into the main article and linked to it. Hope that's fine fore everybody. ] (]) 01:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Unitary or federal republic? ==

Is Tanzania really a ] as in the article, or a ] of Tanganyika and Zanzibar? We also have this article ‘]’. The article states ‘The semiautonomous relationship between Zanzibar and the union is a unique system of government.’ &ndash; ] (]) 10:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I have the same question. I am going to remove the reference to it being a unitary republic. ] (]) 18:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

==Club Penguin?==

I really doubt Club penguin was one of the progenitor nations of Tanzania. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Some additions ==

I think you should mention ] briefly in the history part and put a picture of ]--] (]) 09:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== HDI ==

I doubt abt HDI of Tz shown in this article, why do I doubt? The HDI of Malawi 2008 is 0.493(as per wikipedia) and is ranked 160th but Tanzania with HDI of 0.398 as of 2010 and ranked 151th. Please anyone to crosscheck and correct it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:42, 6 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

'''I updated the HDI data to new 2011 report. TZ is 152nd with a value of 0.466.''' ] (]) 07:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

==Geography Section==
This line at the beginning of the first paragraph in the geography section is awkward:

''For more information on Maasai pastoralism as part of the Globally Important Agricultural Heritage Systems, see:'' ]

It doesn't fit with the rest of the paragraph, and should either be moved or deleted. ] (]) 15:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

== Deletion of GDP per capita figures ==

A user insist on deleting the GDP per capita figures from the article, because 'that data is flat wrong'. He insist that, since the IMF estimate was based on 2006 population projections rather than the 2012 census, the GDP PPP per capita should be "1,643.90, not the IMF's erroneous 1,566.71". Apparently he thinks that the reader is better served by letting him wonder if the GDP is $10,000 or $1,000, rather than using a figure that, by his own estimate, could be off by 100 dollars.--] (]) 00:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

:Intentionally misrepresenting what I said, even when preceded by "Apparently", is incivil and disruptive. This is especially the case when it would have been so easy to quote me by referring to my talk page, which you "clearly" (not "apparently") know how to do. What I said there:
<blockquote></blockquote>
:I trust that you will not be engaging in this type of behavior again. Cheers. ] (]) 18:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::There is nothing uncivil or unusual in my behaviour. I only wanted to avoid you the shame of being associated with your own words, but apparently you don't mind. Nobody other than you supports the removal of figures that are available on any other country-level page over a back-of-the-envelope calculation made by some guy. These figures have been part of the article since its inception. Can you muster a consensus that they should be removed? If not, put an end to your edit warring, or you might be blocked again shortly.--] (]) 03:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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Improving this article

Just an FYI, I've gotten some books from the library and will be attempting to clean this page up over the coming weeks! All thoughts/comments/help/revisions are welcome! Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

The etimology of Zanzibar's name as provided on this page is quite poor as compared to the one that can be found on the separate page on Zanzibar. Please copypaste that description here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.206.24.162 (talk) 15:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm very confused by this article. Mentioned is the new constitution and election in 1995, and the name of the political party and president elected. Has there been no election since then? Carter1214 (talk) 00:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

I can work on that and expand 20 years of history. Sputink (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

I want to talk about Tanzania independence, Its known that the country is a merger of two, Tanganyika and Zanzibar, now to put more details, Yes Zanzibar got independence 1963, at such it was a monarch under sultan of Zanzibar, later Zanzibar Revolution happened to overthrow the sultan, the event which was very important in creating tanzania, in celebrating their independence Tanzania has at least three dates, Tanganyika independence,Zanzibar Revolution and the day of the union, now I tried to include this Zanzibar Revolution here but it was removed, if we have to put the information about something please let put it all, no biasing please Almasimagorwa (talk) 06:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Please take a look at the national anthem's CC / closed captioning in English. Someone has added CC that is inappropriate. DaLaw (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Experienced Editors

Can some experienced editors provide some insight as to where this article needs work. I would be willing to fix or write anything. Just not sure where to start. -- Sputink (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

When the UN took its vote to seat a delegation from Beijing instead of from Taiwan in 1971, members of the Tanzanian delegation started dancing in the General Assembly. You might start there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.126.167 (talk) 19:30, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Different PPPs

There are different GDP PPPs used in the economy section and the bar on the right. Both seem to be correct but one used the World Bank and the other used the International Monetary Fund. Should this be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hifear267 (talkcontribs) 17:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I believe if you add "(IMF)" or "(World Bank)" it would be fine. However, Looking at other countries infobox it seems they have stuck with the IMF figures. Sputink (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion of subsection on women

Hello,

a subsection on women should be added to the section on demographics.
Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 12:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

This article has several sentences in women, which should be merged into a seperate subsection. I would like to set up a subsection with some additional content next month.


Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 05:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Official Language

The CIA Factbook suggests that Swahili is the official language. Does anyone have any input on that? PureRED (talk) 20:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I do not seem to find any material that states that Arabic is truly an official language in Zanzibar. Sputink (talk) 14:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tz.html

Figures in Science and Technology

The figures in the Science and Technology section seem to me to be beyond the scope of this article. They are very appropriate elsewhere (in the noted Main Article of Science and technology in Tanzania). While generally I agree with the WP:BEBOLD policy, I thought I would post here before deleting content. Dbsseven (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Knowledgeable people

I believe this is the correct name that can be found in many country articles? Thank you--SvenAERTS (talk) 14:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Religion statistics

Hello, I disagree with the edits of the user Kitutia, because they do not match the source that is listed. I requested on their talk page for a new source if they want to change the statistics, but they changed back again after, so I'm writing here so we can discuss it. I appreciate thoughts on the disagreement to find a solution and what should be done next. Thank you! —{{u|Goldenshimmer}}|✝️|they/their|😹|T/C|☮️|John 15:12|🍂 04:09, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Do you have any suggestions on the actual statistics and their respective references? Nlivataye (talk) 17:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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Long Leading paragraph

Understand that Tanzania is many facets on its importance. Human evolution history, classical history, Islamic colonization, World War, Nationalism, Environment... But having very long leading paragraphs actually confuses casual reader. --Kittyhawk2 (talk) 02:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

GDP

It’s been very long since the GDP both PPP and nominal has been changed and so are it’s per capita income. Do we have any new sources or updated information from the government? Nlivataye (talk) 09:56, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Nlivataye: Long? It's updated couple of times a year from IMF quarterly projections, so it's not been a long time at all. The figures are, as far as stats are concerned, up to date. Do you suggest just arbitrarily changing the figures for no apparent reason with no reference like you have over at Gabon, Namibia and Botswana to push some kind of an agenda? Don't vandalize. ChrisTakey (talk) 02:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

No that was never my intention. From now on I will always communicate with you here and present reliable sources and evidence before posting Nlivataye (talk) 09:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Nyerere Bridge: Not a suspension bridge

The photo's description is incorrect, as that is obviously a cable-stayed bridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.98.90.36 (talk) 03:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Corona virus, musicians and artists

I think we should have a separate section for health and we should cover the way corona virus is being handled by the current gvt of Magufuli and his minions. Also I think it’s unfair that we don’t mention the many musicians and stars that dominate East African scenery in the greater Swahili Speaking world; people like Diamond, Alikiba, AY, Ray C as well as actors both deceased and alive Nlivataye (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

removed from lede until referenced

" One of the oldest known ethnic groups still existing, the Hadzabe, appears to have originated in Tanzania, and their oral history recalls ancestors who were tall and were the first to use fire, medicine, and lived in caves, much like Homo erectus or Homo heidelbergensis who lived in the same region before them. " - This is not reflected in the body of the article, either. HammerFilmFan (talk) 16:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Languages

There are more than 100 ethnicities but there are no over 100 languages spoken in Tanzania,the reference and data you used is inaccurate or out of date. Tanzanians make the most population of swahili speakers and almost 99 percent of Tanzanians speak swahili and use it as a first language it's a recognized national language and now it's a de jure official language as it was signed by the President weeks ago. Tanzania has more than 100 tribes but it's no means of identity,there's much interaction amoung tribes,they live together marry each other speak swahili and slowly tribal languages are fading and are not used or spoken anymore. Swahili is the only language that connect Tanzanians and is spoken as the first language. Warid Great (talk) 10:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Very true. The 10% figure for native swahili speakers is an outrage Nlivataye (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

It depends on what you mean by "native speaker". As long as "tribal" languages are spoken, they are part of the background of every newborn individual of the "tribe", alongside swahili: he learns his community language in his family, then he learns swahili at school. In addition to this, I suggest not to use the adjective "tribal": this has nothing to do with political correctness (that I hate); I think that every culture deserves respect even if it is not recognized at an official level. I am a white European but I love Africa and its immense cultural richness perhaps more than some Africans do...--Gehadad (talk) 14:56, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

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Foreign relations section

Greats, I believe Foreign relations section section needs to be redone. I notice there are many paragraphs on relations/events with single countries, all dated (also sourced) during JK's phase. These are no longer the case for relations of today, and phase 6.

Because these things are not the case for today, I do not think they should be included on main page of Tanzania. Maybe in history section of the Foreign Relations article?

Another idea is to not have paragraphs for individual events like these in article that is rarely updated. They have been there for almost 10 years, many outdate also many years. I was looking at country articles that have FA status. In their main article they only have a summery of foreign relations.

Perhaps it would be best if this main page only we also only had summery of the foreign relations, rather than new paragraphs for individual events and each country? Cover important things like EAC, AU and UN with only 1 or 2 small paragraph of bilateral relationships. Avoiding adding events that will be quickly outdated since TZ article is not as often maintained or updated.

Many well rated country articles do not separate the bilateral/multilateral sections. If TZ had a title-3 level section I think Arusha as HQ of EAC, and seat of AU courts, and UN courts for things like Rwanda. And place for treaties. This I think would be very informative information on article readers will benefit from. Arusha is better for its own section than the outdated bilateral information.

I welcome your thoughts and ideas! I hope to take a look at fixing the section sometime soon. If I do something others think is wrong please let me know! If you have other good ideas for this (or any other) sections please let me know. It would be nice to see the article as informative of current realities as possible, and other non-current information well place in marked history sections. BevoLJ (talk) 07:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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Major errors in the Tanzania page.

According to the page on Tanzania the president is Kanye West?? And that it borders Texas to the North and is a country in East Canada?? 196.252.244.133 (talk) 16:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

lmao @ this end stat

"making it the most populous country located entirely south of the equator."

In the sense that Indonesia technically extends north of the equatorial line.

I'm going to remove it. If the OG author reverts it, I will not die on this hill.

Jondvdsn1 (talk) 10:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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GDP

Can someone update the per capita income already using IMF or world bank updates. I once did and my edits were reversed RickyBlair668 (talk) 08:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Under what account did you do it? I'm sure if you add a source and an edit summary, there is unlikely to be any objection. CMD (talk) 12:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Conflicting pronunciations

Right at the beginning of the article our English IPA pronunciation disagrees with our English pronunciation respelling. I doubt /zə/ is meant to represent the same sound as zay, but I don't know if either is incorrect. - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 21:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Pan-Africanism

The usual suspects have suggested that the Arusha Declaration underscores Tanzania's commitment to Pan-Africanism - er, no it doesn't! This kind of historical linkage to the ideological hobby-horse of the 'diaspora' is all throughout African History articles on Misplaced Pages. Almost like Misplaced Pages is serving to create the African History some Americans wish it had! There is a singular clause in the Declaration that mentions African Unity however, if you were to take for example the nominal "all people are created equal" clause (or any other) you could make an equally bogus case that the Arusha Declaration underscores a commitment to Christianity (or similar) - which it doesn't. Pan-Africanism is not mentioned in the Arusha Declaration and was known by the founders of Independant Tanzania at the time many of whom would become extremely averse to it. 144.134.56.177 (talk) 13:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Updates

Much of the statistics on the page are many years, if not over a decade, out of date. Will try start to fix this but hoping this comment draws some attention for help in doing so. Cryptogene (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Error in geographical data: Lake Tanganyika max depth conflated with elevation below sea level

I stumbled upon what I believe to be an error, but I am not an experienced editor, so I'm hoping someone with more experience might take it up if I'm in fact correct.

The "Geography" section states that "The country is the site of Africa's highest and lowest points: Mount Kilimanjaro, at 5,895 metres (19,341 ft) above sea level, and the floor of Lake Tanganyika, at 1,471 metres (4,826 ft) below sea level, respectively".

I believe this is incorrect. As per the Lake Tanganyika article, it has a maximum depth of 1,470 metres (4,820 ft), but a surface elevation of 773 m (2,536 ft). So the maximum lake depth should equate to approximately 697 m (2,287 ft) below sea level. Kbo1138 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

second most german speaking country after Germany???

This is misleading in the first introduction that Tanzania is the second most german speaking country in the world after Germany???😀😀😀 could barely get a hundred thousand people who speak German let alone say it has more German speakers than 8 million Austrians or Swiss come on 85.245.187.39 (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I have reverted the addition. CMD (talk) 03:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

tropical cyclones in tanzania

CoI: I am a coauthor on the paper below. Tropical cyclones rarely make landfall in Tanzania, but recently there have been occurrences. It may be useful to include in the climate section of this page reference to this paper which discusses historical occurrences of cyclones: https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/hydr/22/9/JHM-D-21-0017.1.xml The key recent example is Hidaya, and this post from the regional climate centre references this paper I'm suggesting when describing that event https://x.com/IGAD_CPAC/status/1786304672937939111 DecFinney (talk) 11:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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