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= January 5 = | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:Help_desk/Archives/2013 June 25}} | |||
== The fair use file I uploaded is about to be deleted. What can I do? == | |||
= June 26 = | |||
] ] (]) 02:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Article Submission Guidelines == | |||
:Following the directions on the page itself, it says {{tq|Note : if you believe that a free replacement image cannot be reasonably found or created please add one of the following without removing this tag...}}. Alternatively you can reach out to Iruka13 who placed the CSD F7 on the page to begin with. ] ] 02:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Hello Sir/mam. | |||
== Problems saving via Wayback Machine == | |||
Myself John Sena, Basically i am a content writer. I have posted one article on my page but after three days somebody has removed that content. That guy says this content is for promotaional purpose. But It's not true. So please tell me how should create a page. | |||
I know this isn't a Misplaced Pages problem, but was just wondering if anyone else has experienced problems recently with trying to archive pages using Wayback Machine recently. I haven't been able to save any for many weeks now, never having experienced any problems with it before. ] (]) 04:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
i will happy to help wikipedia in proving the contents. i hope you understood my problem. | |||
:It got hacked and attacked and now its slowly recovering (which can take a while). {{tq|In September 2024, the Internet Archive suffered a data breach that exposed 31 million records containing personal information, including email addresses and hashed passwords. On October 9, 2024, the site went down due to a distributed denial-of-service attack. On October 14, the site returned online, but it remained in read-only mode until November 4, during which time "Save Page Now" was disabled, replaced with a "Temporarily Unavailable" banner.}} -- ] ] (]) 09:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Thanks | |||
::You could use <nowiki>https://archive.ph/</nowiki> I started using it when the WM went down. Its really really slow sometimes but if you get it in the morning (GMT) its fast. First time I used it had 5.5k entries waiting to archive. The Internet Archive, poor thing, has been right since its been hacked. It getting there slowly. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 22:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
John Sena <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Seeking Editor for Translated Misplaced Pages Article on Nozomi Nagata in Tribute to His Passing == | |||
:Yes, we understand your problem. Your problem is that you are here to promote a business, as you did with , and that is not what Misplaced Pages is for. You are not going to succeed. I advise you to give up. ] (]) 07:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:We're all content writers. You should not be writing about your own business, or a business you are working for. That presents a clear ]. Maproom explained it perfectly. I'm only chiming in so that it's clear to you that promotion of any kind is unacceptable in the Misplaced Pages community. ] (]) 07:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
My friend, Nagata Nozomi, a Japanese author, has recently passed away. In honor of him, I have translated his Misplaced Pages page into English and would like to publish it. The translation is complete, but I need assistance with editing it to meet Misplaced Pages’s standards, properly citing sources, and ensuring it adheres to Misplaced Pages’s writing format. I don’t have previous experience with editing or the Misplaced Pages writing style, so I would deeply appreciate the help of a kind editor or a volunteer to make the necessary adjustments. | |||
:: You not only promoted your business on your own page but also vandalised existing articles by adding spam links, e.g., , and several other edits. You are warned that if you continue in this way, your account will be permanently blocked from Misplaced Pages. <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;">] ]</span> 09:57, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Thank you very much. Any support would mean a lot. | |||
Original page: | |||
== Help to check and finish the creation of a new template== | |||
https://ja.wikipedia.org/永田希?oldformat=true | |||
I am still trying to create a new template for ], the page is ]. One user help me a lot but still have some problems when trying to edit the subtitles, it does not appear like in the exemple. It's small details for sure just a question of brace or something like that!! If an expert could have a look on it to finish this nice template, please. | |||
Thanks in advance for your contribution. | |||
] (]) 09:24, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Translated page: | |||
This is my last message on the Help desk on the 24th of june: | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/User:EternalPsyche/Nozomi_Nagata ] (]) 03:21, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:<small>(moved from talk) <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 05:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)</small> | |||
:], I haven't bothered to read the page ]; but I note that it does have references. Your translation does not. Us volunteers are busy: we answer specific questions and requests, but rarely if ever requests to turn (sorry, but) half-baked drafts into articles. So put in the references ''yourself'': links on this page (]) will take you -- not directly, but simply enough -- to pages where the mechanics of referencing are explained. You say he had a "unique approach to reading" without saying what this approach was. What was it? (And which authoritative source, independent of Nagata, writes that it was unique?) You say that "Nagata's passion for literature was deeply influenced by his fascination with noise and industrial music" but you don't say what the influence was. What was it? Don't make Japanese script oblique ("italic"); doing so is ugly. And -- but no, that's enough for now. Happy editing! -- ] (]) 05:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I'm trying to create As I am not an expert in this kind of creation on wiki, could anybody help me to make it works. | |||
:-- Except that another quick look at ], ], makes it clear that a number of what are formatted like references aren't really references. (Common are the publication details of books mentioned in the body text.) Where are the ] that discuss Nagata or his works in some depth? These are necessary, in order to show that he's ]. Note that material produced by his publishers, and what he might have said in interviews, don't count. -- ] (]) 06:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for your help | |||
::*{{ping|EternalPsyche}} I had a look at the article as well. It is a slightly ]ish, using flowery and promotional language which is unsuitable for a mainspace biographical article. I put a couple of tags in that were needed. The JP references mainly constitutes interviews per Hoary's comments above. There is an obituary which is a start, but I think as he's an author, I would look for book reviews so he could pass ]. If you can find a couple of reviews for each of the books, 2 or 3 covered with a couple of reviews each would be ideal, then he will pass WP:NAUTHOR. However, the article itself needs substantial work. It reads a blog entry, is promo, so currently unsuitable for Misplaced Pages. You would need to send it to draft once you got the reviews. Hope that helps. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 22:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 12:07, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I'll see what I can do. ] (]) 12:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::{{replyto|Bastaco}} {{done}} hopefully. ] (]) 12:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::{{replyto|Mdann52}} Great job, thank you for your help!! Just one detail about the presentation: still not have the comma between the terms in the subtitle. ] (]) 13:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::{{replyto|Bastaco}} as far as I can see, at ] (a random test page), everything appears as it seems. Can you link me to where it appears incorrectly? ] may also help. ] (]) 10:07, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::{{replyto|Mdann52}} Thanks for your help, you were right about the fact of purging my page lol ] (]) 11:34, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Intersection of "What links here" for two pages == | |||
== Glenn Melvyn page == | |||
Hello all, | |||
Glenn Melvyn | |||
Trying to make sure that no pages link to both ] and ] (newly a redirect), as in the case of ]'s bottom cell; I don't really care about changing all the links to point directly to the Help page, but rather just the pages that have links to both. | |||
Glenn Melvyn's daughter Janine Mackinlay would like to have a web page on this site with an information page about her father. Glenn Melvyn was a British actor who is credited on IMDb | |||
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0578542/#Actor | |||
Any help appreciated! | |||
A hugely influential but largely unknown writer and actor, he is also quoted in Ronnie Barkers autobiography “Ronnie Barker – The Authorised Biography” by Bob McCabe, it describes the early meeting of Glenn and Ronnie. | |||
“A quick trawl through The Stage soon secured some stage management work at Frank Fortescue’s Famous Players, a rep company based in Bramhall, Cheshire. It was here that Barker was to meet one of the most influential men in his career. Glenn Melvyn was the company’s leading man and the man who Barker claims ‘was to teach me everything I ever learned about comedy’. | |||
Glenn also taught Ronnie how to stutter and later in his career, Ronnie Barker would base his character Albert Awkright in “Open All Hours” on Glenn’s character Wally Binns from “The Love Match” and “Love and Kisses”. | |||
They went on to write many scripts together and when presented with the BAFTA lifetime achievement award in 2007, Ronnie mentioned Glenn at the start of his acceptance speech, with a credit for giving him his first break and teaching him how to stutter. | |||
] <small>(]) | :) | he/him | </small> 05:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I am helping to pur the page together but can't quite get to grips with how the references and links work, so the page gets removed as being unvalidated. | |||
:@] there are currently pages that link to both. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 05:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::How did you get that number? ] <small>(]) | :) | he/him | </small> 06:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::The ] query I linked above. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 06:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::{{ping|JuxtaposedJacob}} Our search can also do it with <code>linksto:</code> and currently says 287. I would first update templates which link to the redirect . Then wait a while for the job queue to update link tables before making the first search. ] (]) 07:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::@]: Oh my goodness, missed that entirely, thanks so much! Also thank you to @] ] <small>(]) | :) | he/him | </small> 17:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== delete draft == | |||
Any help please. Thanks | |||
Keith on behalf of Janine (and Glenn) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
please Draft:Azaad (2025 film) 2 by ] (]) 06:45, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I'm afraid that neither you nor Janine are advised to write this article, because your ] will make it difficult for you to write in the neutral way required. If, after reading the link I gave, you decide to try, then I advise reading ] for advice on how to go about it. --] (]) 12:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I believe you want ]. Cheers. ] (]) 07:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{ec}}I've added a {{tlx|reflist}} template to make the references work properly, but I'm afraid with the citations provided, the article won't be acceptable for Misplaced Pages. IMDb is ], and neither are ]. McCabe's biography of Barker, if it contains some more information about Melvyn, would be a suitable source, but you'll need to locate and cite ] in order to show that Melvyn meets ]. If, as you say, he is "largely unknown", then it may not be possible to have an article about him here. ] ]‍] 12:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:@] There is no need for you to take any action to delete the draft. Abandoned drafts are automatically deleted in six months of inactivity. More likely in this case is that the film will attract some reviews once it has been released and the existing draft may help someone create an article meeting ]. ] (]) 12:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Revision history == | |||
:With the greatest respect to Janine and her late father, please bear in mind that ]. Also be clear that you understand that any article published about Glenn Melvyn could be edited by any other other user at any time; an article's creator has ] over the content. More help with referencing can be found at ]. - ]] 13:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Please look at ] and ]. Today, the user archived their Talk page by moving it to Archive 1. Why can't I see the revision history of the Talk page? It looks like Archive 1 has the history the Talk page "should" have. Even if the user's archiving was unorthodox, I don't see how they can "eliminate" a page's history.--] (]) 15:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Per our usual practice I have moved the user page content to a subpage at ].--] (]) 13:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Bbb23}} are you asking how Footballnerd2007 moved the history of their talk page or whether there is a rule about moving the history of their talk page? I can't find a rule, but it is obviously unhelpful to readers and thus a bad idea. ] (]) 15:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Article Rejection == | |||
:{{Re|Bbb23}} This archiving method is described at ]. The method is still allowed, as far as I know, but is "generally no longer used". Moving/renaming a page automatically moves the history to the new page name, as always. -- ] (]) 15:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:They haven't eliminated it - what they did was move their talk page to the archive, and then created a new page at the talk page (or, well, created a redirect and then turned that into a talk page). | |||
:I'm not sure it's the right way to do it, but it's completely possible for all users. '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 15:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{tq|as always}}. Heh, I guess I've never seen it done before ''and'' noticed the effect. Thanks.--] (]) 15:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== An interwiki redirect question == | |||
Hi, | |||
I recently saw ], ], and ], all of which are soft redirects to the Wiktionary entry for '']''. I thought that it might be reasonable to hard redirect ] and ] to ], since that's the page whose title is closest to the Wiktionary entry. But is it acceptable to redirect soft redirects to each other? ]<sub>]<sub>]</sub></sub> (]/]) 22:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I'm writing an article on a business, Interim Partners, and my article was rejected because of 'bias'. I don't see how it is biased at all - I made sure to use facts, barely any adjectives and no promotion. | |||
:Since there is no actual Misplaced Pages entry for any of these, I see no reason to not just keep the soft redirects. --] | ] 23:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
= January 6 = | |||
One of Interim Partners' competitors, Michael Page, has a Misplaced Pages page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Michael_Page_International. I closely followed pages of Interim Partners' competitors to ensure that I made a correct Misplaced Pages page. In my opinion, Interim Partners' Misplaced Pages page is unbiased, and it is certainly a lot less biased than the Misplaced Pages page that Michael Page have. | |||
==]== | |||
Reference number 22 is "Not Quite Right" (in red). Please fix. I am sorry. ] (]) 06:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Before somebody kindly fixed it, reference 22 told the reader (in red) "Check date values in: |date=". This means that the value specified for the date is invalid. And the cite template read "date=20144", which (as it has not four but five digits) is several thousand years into the future. -- ] (]) 06:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
I would appreciate it if you could take a second look at the Interim Partners article I am creating (http://en.wikipedia.org/User:AimeeTreasure/sandbox) and either elaborate on how exactly the page is biased or allow me to publish the page. | |||
ref number 6 is in the red too - Im sorry, I will try not do any more editing this year! Please fix this reef. Thank you in advance. ] (]) 09:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Did help? Also the year has just started. Perhaps try to do more and better editing this year. ] (]) 09:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Statement: True or false? == | |||
I look forward to your reply. | |||
I think users with less than 500 edits can't be administrators. ] (]) 13:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Many thanks, | |||
:There have been cases of admins from other Wikimedia projects but very few contributions on English Misplaced Pages, who are promoted to adminship here to facilitate particular cross-wiki tasks.{{pb}}]ship is a position of community trust, and editors with brief tenures and few contributions have not yet had the opportunity to build that trust. ] (]) 13:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Aimée Treasure | |||
::So if someone was an editor with only about 100 edits, will they be or not? No, right? ] (]) 13:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::See guidance at ]. The formal requirement for adminship is 500 edits and 30 days of experience. However, a user who only meets this minimum standard is almost certain not to pass an RFA. ]] 13:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::So if I was a user with 505 edits, I can't still be? ] (]) 12:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::You can run. But your odds of succeeding would be near zero. It's fairly common for RfA candidates with thousands of edits to be opposed by the community due to lack of experience. ]] 12:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::So where can I apply? (I forgot) ] (]) 13:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Likely copyvio ? == | |||
:The reason your article was declined can be seen in the edit history - ''Declining submission: submission is written like an advertisement'' . Please read ]. You need to establish the company's notability in the article. At the moment your draft fails to do that and sections such as ''Corporate and Social Responsibility'' and ''Accreditation'' etc. make the draft look more like an advertisement for the company than an encyclopaedic article. As a comparison with the article you linked above (]) you'll see that in the lead of that article basic notability is established with the phrase ''is a constituent of the FTSE 250 Index''. ] (]) 12:19, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
First, I wish you a very happy new year ! | |||
:{{ec}} I've seen worse, to be honest - the text of the article needs a bit of tweaking, but generally isn't too bad. Problem is though, that none of the claims therein are ] by ], which is pretty much a deal-breaker for Misplaced Pages. The only source provided (the ''Sunday Times'' list) doesn't actually mention Interim Partners at all, and there's absolutely nothing in the page to suggest that the company meets ]. Before you even start addressing any issues of bias, you need to find ] which write about Interim Partners in some level of detail, and which verify all of the information in your draft article. Then we can talk about any minor language fixes that need doing. Without sources, the article isn't going to last long even if it's the most neutrally-phrased page on the project. ] ]‍] 12:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
I hope I'm not in the wrong section. Here is the main issue : | |||
:<small>(Edit Conflict x2)</small> Other issues i noticed: | |||
*Your lede does not state very well what Interim Partners is. A lede paragraph should sum up informatively what the article is about and in an unbiased manner. See ]. | |||
*You appear to have proof of notability in how the company ranks, but nothing outside of that from other sources (Similar to what CaptRik said). See ]. | |||
*Your "Growth and Development" section contains links to other sites, which should not be there. Links to other sites should be either citations or fit into an ] section at the bottom of the article (if appropriate). | |||
:Other than that i'd say you haven't done too bad considering your ], but you do need to rewrite it a bit more for an encyclopaedia, than an advertisement. | |||
:These are just issues i noticed after a quick glance. Good luck ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 12:25, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Deletion of Article: Boris Bidjan Saberi == | |||
I wonder if this photography uploaded on en.wikipedia.org has not been made by ] (just died in 2023) for french Sygma agency, September 18, 1975. | |||
Hello, | |||
Here other sources to evaluate this issue : | |||
https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/belgian-cartoonist-georges-prosper-remi-aka-hergé-at-home-news-photo/1441929742 | |||
'''Exactly the same type of light, same time (1975), same haircut, same shirt with rolled up sleeves and same tie, same place''' (at home in Brussels), ... | |||
I am writing regarding my article for 'Boris Bidjan Saberi' which was deleted. Can you please guide me as to how I can retrieve that article to rework it to better fit the community guidelines? I do not have the original content any longer and retrieving that content would really help me a lot. | |||
And here, the same Tintin's bust statue in the exactly same state : | |||
Thanks in advance. | |||
https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/belgian-cartoonist-georges-prosper-remi-aka-hergé-at-home-news-photo/583065342 | |||
Hergé was very conservative about photoshootings and it's very unlikely that any other photographer could have been worked at the same period for one of his last album of Tintin | |||
Zakirmaq <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
press promotion. | |||
Regards. ] (]) 13:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:There's not a lot there that could be salvaged, to be perfectly honest, but I'll email you a copy of the deleted article anyway. ] ]‍] 12:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:@] Looking at the NFCC tags on the image, it looks like the uploader made a good-faith effort to identify the photographer but failed. I think it's plausible that Pavlovsky is the photographer, in which case the author credit for the image should be changed. However, the image would still be usable on Misplaced Pages, since it meets the ]. —''']''' (]) 13:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Biased article - doesn't reflect the world we live in == | |||
== Article name change == | |||
The page "Masturbation", which I cannot edit myself, is biased and the people who are opposing my changes, I believe do not share their opinions with the majority of Misplaced Pages writers/readers. I requested outside opinions but this request was removed, but I don't know why. So I ask people to look at the page, even if you wouldn't normally read such a page, and see how biased it is, and ask yourselves "does this bullsh*t really reflect the world I live in?" and then look on the discussion page to see my proposed changes, which are being opposed by a minority of people with faulty logic. There is something very wrong going on here. | |||
Hello, I am debating whether should I change the name for the former ] into Jeddah Airport, or keep it the same. The term “Kandara Airport” was probably coined by the former airport’s location to the area, and that people didn’t want to confuse it with the newer ] (nicknamed Jeddah Airport). And also, before 1981 when the new one was built, the former one was officially named Jeddah Airport according to historical documents and videos. If I changed it, it would have been more historically accurate. Any thoughts? ] (]) 14:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
selected quote: | |||
:The best place to discuss this is at ]. When a subject has more than one possible name, it is best to get a consensus before renaming the article.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 14:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
" it is considered a normal part of healthy life today" with no reference. Opinion, and they will not remove it. | |||
::A notice should also be added to ] as ] redirects there. A ] at King Abdulaziz International Airport or a ] page at ] are alternative options. ] (]) 15:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== What's my actual edit count? == | |||
-- No it is not. I do not believe it is entirely socially acceptable in any society, (apart from a few microcultural examples e.g. certain indigenous tribes) and in many conservative/religious societies (e.g. Islamic countries, many rural areas across the world) it is not acceptable at all. They are confusing the views of science and medicine (which does not 100% say it is fine, hence the use of terms like "excessive masturbation", "compulsive masturbation" in medical and psychological publications) with the views of society. I proposed then to split these views, but it was again opposed. They will not even allow mention that masturbation is illegal in public in most countries, apparently that is "not on topic". In some countries, you would face the death penalty for masturbating in public. The article talkes about events (presumably in Western cosmopolitan settings) where a group of perverted people are allowed to masturbate as part of a festival/event, called a "Masturbate-a-thon". I point out that these people would be stoned to death very quickly if they tried that perversion in many countries. Let's have a page that is not biased, is not a "how -to- masturbate" manual, and includes other balanced views. | |||
As of before I add this topic: | |||
-- The requests I made to change the article and make it less biased were opposed by quoting some Misplaced Pages rules. I studied these rules in detail and in every case they are falsely applied to this scenario. I also found out that according to these rules, many, many issues involving content of the page which supports the overall biased view. The rules are being selectively applied by a minority to maintain a biased page which does not, I believe represent the views of all. | |||
Your impact: '''371''' Total edits | |||
-- I am very disillusioned by this experience. I used to read Misplaced Pages with interest and admiration, but now everything I see will be suspect in my eyes. How do I know it is not the same scenario-- biased opinion rather than reality? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
View all edits > User contributions for Therguy10: A user with '''372''' Edits. | |||
:I see you have discussed this on the article's talk page, which is the first step of Misplaced Pages's ]. This process page will tell you how to proceed when you cannot achieve consensus. --] (]) 12:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Am I missing something here? Thanks! ] (]) 18:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Dissolving Question == | |||
{{Archive top|User blocked as sockpuppet, feed them no more!--] (]) 13:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)}} | |||
If I can edit and contribute to Misplaced Pages, what can Misplaced Pages do for me ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:"]" — '''''] ]''''' 13:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
{{Archive bottom}} | |||
:There are a couple of things that impact your edit count, depending on what tools and methodology are being used. Some are based on all contributions, while others reduce your edit county by deleted edits (sometimes called "live" edits). Plus some pages are cached, for performance reasons, so their data might lag being by a few edits (or minutes)... For more information also see ]. ] ] 18:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Technological aspects of Misplaced Pages == | |||
::@]Interesting, I'll keep that in mind. I'll probably go off of my User Contribs but that's good to know that it can differ. Thank you! ] (]) 19:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{re|Therguy10}} if you click on "Preferences", that will show you edit count. This is my 323,426th edit. ] (]) 11:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::{{re|Mjroots}} are you sure that 323,426 is a complete and accurate count? Your edit count report shows | |||
::::Global edit counts (approximate) ► en.wikipedia.org 323,426 | |||
::::and | |||
::::Live edits 322,487 · (98.9%) deleted edits 3,486 · (1.1%) Total edits 325,973 | |||
::::] (]) 13:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Reference errors == | |||
I am interested in the techquatical aspects in Misplaced Pages, what can I do about this ? ] (]) 14:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Greetings, can someone with more stamina and time go into ] and resolve the reference errors? I don't know how to fix the spurious sfn error, for instance. ] (]) 18:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Is this ]? ] (]) 15:07, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Jo-Jo Eumerus}} {{done}} ] (]) 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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== Maintenance categories == | ||
Hello, I have a few discussions (] and ]) concerning maintenance categories that I would like to bump - ] is pretty quiet. Would there be an appropriate noticeboard to bump these discussions? The ] and subsidiary boards seems to be for larger discussions. ] (]) 20:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I'm a new user here, and this is probably a dumb question, but my article keeps getting rejected. | |||
:1) if you want to ask what a category is for, you can just ask its creator. I pinged them for ya. | |||
I am a professional drummer, and have played on several major label recordings over the past 5 years including Cee-Lo, Gnarls Barkley, and others. | |||
:2) looks like this topic died a natural death after Anne drew said {{tq|According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details}}. If you want feedback you could use ] or ]. ] (]) 20:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I added my own "user" page to wikipedia and then linked to it from Cee-Lo's page, for instance. (Because my name already exists on his page, it just hadn't been linked to anywhere). | |||
== Advice on appropriate informational/warning template == | |||
Can anyone tell me if this is best/right way to add myself to Misplaced Pages? Why does it keep getting rejected? | |||
A user tagged me this afternoon on another user's talk page in the context of trying to recruit other editors to collectively undermine the work of me and a collaborator in our ongoing efforts to improve ]. Please see the comment ]. (Apparently this has something to do with the off-Wiki group GSoW. I'd never heard of it.) | |||
Pages i've mentioned: | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Bradhagen | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/Bright_Lights_Bigger_City | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Lady_Killer_(album) | |||
This first editor has made only one edit to the article in question (or actually just its talk page), three years ago, with a minor question about the presence of a sidebar. | |||
Thanks for your help! | |||
Aside from this ping (which I suspect was an accident), they have made no efforts to contact me or to offer criticism or suggestions on the article talk page. | |||
] (]) 14:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Is there a template of some kind I could add to their user talk? Obviously some of this is just ignorance of Misplaced Pages culture and norms, but {{em|wow}} is this the wrong attitude to start with. | |||
:I'm afraid there is no best way to add yourself to Misplaced Pages, because you are '''strongly''' discouraged from ever doing so: see ] for more information. On your user page ] you are welcome to share as much or as little about yourself ''as a Misplaced Pages editor'' that you wish to, but you should not attempt to write an article about yourself there or anywhere else. --] (]) 14:55, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for your thoughts on how to handle this — | |||
:{{ec}} Well, for starters you are generally encouraged ''not'' to create an article about yourself due to ]. You sound ] enough, but your article would need citations from reliable sources to verify the content is true. ] is also a useful place for information, and i expect you to at least read ] for more advice in this area. Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 15:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::{{ec}} - Creating a page about yourself is discouraged and will most likely be deleted. The everyday rule of thumb in this situation is ''If a person, company or group meets the ] guidelines someone else will write about that subject.'' Please review ]. Cheers, <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 15:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Sorry to pile on the bad news, but I've removed the link that you added to ]. We don't allow wikilinks to go from an article to a user page, except in very rare circumstances. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 18:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Cheers, ] (]) 21:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::The link didn't go to userspace, it was a red link to where that article would eventually be moved to (Bradley Hagen). See ] for basic information. Do you want to revert yourself for what was an unhelpful removal of a single red link or should i? Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 19:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Patrick Welsh}} Are there any other relevant links you know of? If not, then it seems you are overreacting and failing to AGF. It is not (yet) clear if these are nefarious people doing nefarious deeds or simply people who have a boring content dispute about a boring wikipedia article which can be solved with a boring conversation. And my money is on the second option. There is an article about {{ping|Sgerbic}} over at ]. ] (]) 21:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::I'm afraid not, just the post at ]. OneSkyWalker's account dates back to 2006, but it has only 107 edits that, at least at a glance, appear innocuous. | |||
::GSoW is apparently a group that coordinates offline campaigns against stuff like pseudoscience on Misplaced Pages. I don't know anything about them except what's on their website, and that User:Sgerbic is the founder and principle coordinator. ] (]) 21:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Meh, my advice would be to relax and invite them to have a conversation on the talkpage. Postmodernism is not a form of pseudoscience, and you are not a psychic, so I think you have nothing to worry about. ] (]) 21:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Okay, I will take your advice. I really don't love the battleground mentality, however, or the deliberate secrecy. I mean why not at least try starting on the article talk page? ] (]) 21:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Some internet users expect Misplaced Pages to be a turnbased combat game, and it certainly ''can'' be. But there are also many articles where polite people politely disagree about topics that are not very exciting (like Postmodernism). The mention of GSoW seems to be unrelated to Postmodernism article. And, if my Google-fu is to be trusted, the GSoW secrecy is based on old unrelated drama. Nothing to worry about. ] (]) 22:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::Just to be sure we're not talking past one another, I'm totally fine with editors coming to the article talk page full of objections to this-or-that shortcoming. I welcome it! | |||
::::::My problem here is that the editor did not do this. Instead, they went to the talk page of user who has not worked on the page seeking collaborators to edit the article in a way that they apparently expect in advance will wind up in arbitration. | |||
::::::Oh, and I have no problem with Susan Gerbic. I too am opposed to pseudoscience. ] (]) 22:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I understand. I can think of plausible non-nefarious reasons why that editor showed up at Susans talk instead of at the Postmodernism talk. I myself have also posted on a more experienced users talkpage saying something like "I think article x is imperfect what do you think" instead of posting on the talkpage of that article because I was unsure I wanted to get involved without the support of someone saner and more experienced than I am, and as a sanity check if my opinion even made sense. ] (]) 22:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Something to play with == | |||
::::...Actually i think i'm defending something else. I wikilinked Brad Hagen at ]. Apologies John, i thought that last post was to me. The timezone differences are messing my replies up (See conversation below for context). ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 19:46, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
I'd use with extreme caution. It doesn't seem to like authoritative sources. ] (]) 21:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::: No problem. Yes, I didn't (and wouldn't) touch your edit. Personally I tend to be slow in creating red links to people whose notability I'm unsure of, but it's a matter of individual taste, I think. And I could have been clearer, I guess, by using {{tl|replyto}}; I missed the possibility of ambiguity in who my comment was directed to. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 02:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah that is nonsense. It is simply a wrapper around an OpenAI API call. And why oh why do they hate webdesign so much? ] (]) 22:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::They are demonic (favourite word of the month) sent to try you. I don't understand it. Webdesign is an establish industry with traditions. No need for it with a well established and well understood design ethos. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 22:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Where is doomguy when you need him? ] (]) 09:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== {{Japanese football updater|KawasakF}} == | |||
::::::I'm using GMT so Misplaced Pages is showing everything one hour off, which is causing me issues. I've already warned someone for vandalism ''after'' someone else already did. You would think Misplaced Pages would have something as simple as time zones sorted before pursuing notifications and cosmetic changes... Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 10:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Are there instructions on how to access and use these updaters in Japanese football (soccer)? This is from Kawasaki Frontale ] (]) 23:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
==Why has my time zone changed?== | |||
:{{ping|Daxion}} Your heading says <code><nowiki>{{Japanese football updater|KawasakF}}</nowiki></code>. That means it's calling ]. If you edit it then you can see some instructions at the top of the source code. If you mean how to call it then there is documentation for some similar templates in ]: {{tl|Brazilian football updater}}, {{tl|English football updater}}, {{tl|Spanish football updater}}, {{tl|Welsh football updater}}. I haven't used any of them or examined the documentation but I guess they work similarly. ] (]) 09:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
For some reason i am now seeing edits i make appear 1 hour behind. I am still set to London time but it is displaying my edits 1 hour behind. This must be a bug as it did not do this recently. Anyone know more? Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 15:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Misplaced Pages uses ] - due to it being BST atm, all edits appear 1 hour behind - they will go in sync when you go back to GMT. ] (]) 15:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
= January 7 = | |||
::I'm pretty ignorant of things like this to be honest. I do not know anything about UTC or BST at all. Do you know when things will go back to "normal" or do i have to do something to fix it? Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 15:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Namespace number== | |||
Why there are numbers in ]? What is the purpose of that namespace number? ] (]) 08:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Vitaium}} Probably because that's how they get stored in the database(s). Imagine you have 6 million records in a database. Much better to store a zero for each of those to denote that its an article than the string "article". ] (]) 08:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Vitaium}} See ]. Template code with namespace numbers can be copied between wikis where the names are different. Namespace numbers are also used in other places, e.g. some url's to restrict features like search or WhatLinksHere to selected namespaces. If you don't make namespace-dependent templates or tinker with url parameters then you may never need the numbers. ] (]) 08:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== I am not permitted to Requests for page protection/Increase/Form == | |||
:::You can set your time zone at ]. It doesn't affect times in signatures but for those you can try "Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time" at ]. ] (]) 16:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
I am trying to report persistent vandalism over the span of 6 months on the article ], I am not permitted to do so. I get the message <br> | |||
::::Or you can wait until 27 October, when British Summer Time ends, and the UK goes back to Greenwich Mean Time. For almost all practical purposes GMT = UTC, so you are on UTC during the winter, but an hour ahead during the summer. Misplaced Pages uses UTC, as the local dates and times of editors around the world can be up to 26 hours apart (26, not 24, see ] for the explanation) - ] (]) 16:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
''Failed to create request. Error code: abusefilter-disallowed. Please try again or ask for help at WT:RFPP.'' <br> | |||
Can you perhaps submit it for me? I don't think it can get fixed i've tried alot of things. ] (]) 09:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Pinging the man behind the hair, our beloved Sideshow Bob, {{ping|Oshwah}}. ] (]) 09:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: The title of the article was triggering an edit filter. Your submission to ] was , no need to cross post. <b>] ]</b> 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Changing the italics in a title == | |||
::::My time zone is set and it displays the right time. But when i sign i see everything 1 hour behind and it's irritating as it makes following posts a little more difficult (for a dyslexic). Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 19:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
Would like to propose this for as it appears Roman and uncapped in . thanks ] (]) 11:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== New editor help? == | |||
:{{ping|Shelter3}} ] use {{tl|Italic title}} to deliberately display the title in italics per ]. Page names start with a capital letter unless the first word would usually be written lowercase at the start of a sentence like ]. Merriam-Webster is a dictionary so they want to show how a word is written inside a sentence but they still say Ikebana when the word starts a sentence. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia. Our sister project Wiktionary is a dictionary and their article is ]. ] (]) 13:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Sorry to clarify, it is already IN italics and needs to be Roman. So: {{tl|Roman title}}?--] (]) 11:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|Shelter3}} ] uses {{tl|Italic title}} to deliberately display the title in italics, so you could remove the Italic title template to remove the italics. The article is in UK English so arguably you should check a UK English dictionary. ] (]) 11:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Referencing edits, citations, etc from the talk page == | |||
I am not a new editor, and I am also not good at talking to individuals on their talk page. However, I frequently see new editors bombarded with "canned" messages that take the "bombarder" seconds to post, but must totally discourage the new editor. Any advice to such new editors? Thanks in advance, X] (]) 15:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The ''intention'' of these canned messages is not to discourage the newcomer. However I agree that it is the likely effect. My advice to new editors is to start very cautiously, fixing typos and suchlike until they feel more confident, so as not to attract the attention of the people who post these patronising messages. ] (]) 16:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Ermm, '''read''' those messages? ] (]) 19:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
I’ve been collaborating with someone on the talk page of an article, but I’ve had difficulty finding clear standards or easy methods for referencing an edit or citation from the article we’re discussing. I’ve even struggled to find a simple way to quote something someone has said on the talk page. After some searching and working with raw code, I was able to use something like ]. | |||
== Update organization logo == | |||
Since talk pages seem so important, is there a page that outlines all the tools available for constructive discussion? If such a page exists, I’ve honestly tried to find it! :D ] (]) 13:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I need to update an outdated logo on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Camh_logo_one.png#filelinks but it says that I cannot update or override the file. What is the process for updating logos? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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:I don't know about ''all'' of the available tools, but ] seems like a place to start. ] (]) 14:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
::How would you link to a citation in the article? Or a previous edit? I have just gone to the edit and copied the URL from the taskbar, or gone into the source code and copied the link to the citation if it has an external link or file. ] (]) 17:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::You can link to a previous edit as a ], if you mean a comparison of an old and new version of text; it sounds like you may have ultimately done something equivalent. If you wanted to link to a citation. I'd probably just quote the text where the relevant citation is listed, but it's not something I personally have needed to do thus far. ] (]) 18:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:The template {{tl|tq}} is sometimes useful for quoting text from an article or posting - it displays it in green. --] (]) 19:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: {{Tl|Reflist-talk}} is also useful. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Can't fix my error because edit source is no longer part of the section == | |||
== Article re: operation reentry Miami beach fl == | |||
Yes, I know I added the wrong citation markers. But now the page ] doesn't include edit source, so I cannot go back and fix the mistake. ] (]) 20:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
My name is Maurice Soniat, | |||
:@], I've removed the empty ref tags inserted before the heading, that should fix it. ] ] 20:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
And having come across this article I am a bit concerned with the reference to my involvement with Scientology. | |||
:And I have added a missing "<nowiki></ref></nowiki>". ] (]) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Please remove this reference. You can contact me at ph:{{redacted}} | |||
Thank You, | |||
Maurice. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
= January 8 = | |||
:I have removed the Scientology reference as a BLP violation as it has no source.--] (]) 17:20, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Hudson Bay == | |||
== Four men -1st Paratroop Arnhem - == | |||
What did I do wrong with the {{tl|sfn}} at ? It won't link to the actual book listing. It's references 16 and 21. Thanks. ] (solidly non-human), ], ] 04:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{Re|CambridgeBayWeather}} It was ]. -- ] (]) 07:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for catching it. ] (solidly non-human), ], ] 08:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== 2025 in country music == | |||
How can I obtain a high res image of this photograph? my Great Grandfather is in it? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
At ], does anyone know why there are songs under "Top new album releases"? --] (]) 13:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:You're referring to ], yes? (It currently appears in four different Misplaced Pages articles.) | |||
:If you click on that picture (in any article), or on the link, you'll go to , and you can see the link for full-size version of the photo. Click on that, and they you can download it using your browser (typically, right-click, "Save image as"). -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 21:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:For this particular image you ''may'' be able to obtain a higher-resolution version via the , searching for their catalogue number BU 1167 as shown on the image ]. -- ] (]) 21:19, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The uploader got it from http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205192043 where it says you can buy a print. Their highest online resolution http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/166/media-166952/large.jpg?action=d&cat=photographs is the exact file uploaded here. I don't know whether any of the print versions have higher quality. ] (]) 21:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Interlanguage links == | |||
Hi, | |||
The English wp version of ] is coupled on Wikidata to Q3702043 with the Spanish and Italian versions, while all of the other language wikipedia articles are coupled to Q18983. I have little (or indeed no) understanding of how wikidata works, so how can the two be combined into one so that all of the interlanguage links show up correctly on all the articles (presumably that's what "right" would look like)? Thanks ]_] 22:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I'm no expert on Wikidata conflicts but the challenge with ] and ] is that Spanish and Italian have separate articles about the Flag of Pennsylvania and the Coat of arms of Pennsylvania, so there has to be separate Wikidata entries for the flag and for the coat of arms. The English article covers both. All the other languages appear to only have an article about the flag, at least judged by the article title – I haven't examined whether the articles also mention the coat of arms. I don't know whether there is a better solution than choosing one of the two for the English article. It's currently under Coat of arms. ] (]) 22:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Ah, that makes some sense. Well done for spotting that. The query came about because another editor deleted the old style interlanguage list and I reinstated it because otherwise all that was left were It and Es links. I guess until some more permanent resolution is reached that's how it should stay. Thanks again. ]_] 23:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, if the two items in Wikidata are really the same, then they can be merged, and there's a gadget available in Wikidata for doing the merge. But if they are not quite the same (for example, one is a subset of the other) then they must be separate in Wikidata. | |||
:In fact, in this case it's even more complicated, because the Spanish and Italian articles are the coat of arms, most of the articles are to the flag, and only the English appears to be both, so I've created a third item ], and made that to link to the English article. Unfortunately, though this is right, it is even more unhelpful for the purpose of interlanguage links. What I have done is to link these three together in Wikidata with the ] ], but I don't think there is any way that that can be reflected in the interlanguage links. --] (]) 14:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Addition: ] explains that you can still use the old-fashioned direct link ("local links") to override the Wikidata ones. --] (]) 14:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Brewery== | |||
I tried to start a new entry for a local small town brewery called "The Damascus Brewery" and it does not show up. The help desk people in the chat room for wikipedia said that they could see it and that it was all set to be reviewed but now I don't see it as ever being created, denied, or anything. Does its entry still exist? Do I need to go through the process of writing the article again? thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I'm looking into it, ]. ] (]) 23:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:You can see your contributions ]. Your only contribution under this account is to the Help Desk. Have you edited under any other accounts? ] (]) 23:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::The page in question is ].--] (]) | |||
:Hey Adam, you wouldn't happen to be the Adam Woodson mentioned in the article, would you? If so, I'd like to dissuade you from editing further, because you could have a ]. Misplaced Pages isn't a vanity site or the Yellow Pages. If the brewery is notable, then it should have coverage from sources independent of itself. If it's (as you said) just a "local small town brewery", it's possible that it isn't notable enough for inclusion. If you can find ] that establish its notability, then the article could pass. Until then, it'll just keep getting deleted for being ]. And if you're not the same Adam, ignore everything I just said, except for the parts about bringing in reliable sources independent of the subject. We still need that. ] (]) 03:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Where did my article go == | |||
I submitted an article for publication, it got rejected and deleted. Now nothing is in my sandbox, and I can't find my source file anywhere. I'd like to edit the page and try again, but I don't want to start from scratch. | |||
-James <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I asked an administrator to view the deleted contributions for ]. Your sandbox was deleted under ] as a blatant hoax. If you have an explanation for it, feel free to explain here and an admin can undelete it if it merits it. ] (]) 23:34, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:(edit conflict) ] was appropriately deleted per ] as a blatant hoax. The alleged topic has zero Google hits. Please don't waste our time with made up things. ] (]) 23:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
= June 27 = | |||
== need a change to the Jenna marbles page == | |||
Hi my name is Deborah Mourey.. I am Jenna Mourey (Marbles) mom. | |||
On her page... http://en.wikipedia.org/Jenna_Marbles | |||
it reads that Sarah Penna is her agent... Sarah hasn't been her agent for quite some time. I just signed up for an account but since it's a semi protected page.. I can't change it right now. | |||
I am acting as her primary contact; what's interesting is that I think I used to be listed on her page as her parent with a link to my website and the agent wasn't listed there at all and now it's changed back to the way the page was probably 2 years ago. So any help you can give me to remove Sarah's name and replace it with mine would be greatly appreciated. Best Deborah Mourey <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Hello, ma'am. I don't question your veracity, but Misplaced Pages policy prefers that information like that be ]. Since it's a fairly straight-forward, low-profile bit of data, if she were to mention you as her agent in the contact/booking section of her website/vlog, or otherwise publicly ascribe to you the title of "agent", I'd imagine that wouldn't bump too hard against our sourcing guidelines. In the interim, I'll delete Sarah Penna's mention as it too is unsourced. The double-edge sword swings in your favor! (half way...) Also, since you are her mother, and ostensibly her booking agent, you might want to review our policies about ]. Your best bet, should you wish to influence edits on her article is to either learn how to make edit requests via the article's talk page, or come to the help desk with good citations, and we can likely help out. ] (]) 03:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::{{Fixed}} Removed Sarah Penna as agent. -- ] (]) 03:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::The information was added by , on May 21. I'm going to ask the editor who added it why he did so. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 03:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Even though it's coded in the ibox template, I don't think "agent" is an appropriate parameter - seems spammy to me.--] (]) 15:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Link shortening? == | |||
. | |||
I have created a template from the basis of the <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki> template that includes a paragraph asking users with non-latin character usernames to check out ]. At the bottom of the template I have included google translate links that translates the contents of the template into every non-Latin character language the google translate service currently provides. I have to use bit.ly as a link shortener for these links, because the direct google translate links cannot be posted, as they contain <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and consequently mess up the formatting of the template. | |||
The template is located ]; To see how it looks with the translation links, please see screenshot . | |||
For example, is a screenshot of the first link, which is the translation for Arabic-speaking users. You can see from the highlighted URL the 4 tildes which prevent the posting of the orginal, google-translate link due to formatting issues. You cannot wrap nowiki tags around them to solve this because doing that renders the link useless (404 error) | |||
I believe the addition of these translation links to the template would prove invaluable. It is unfortunate that the direct google translate links cannot be used due to the URL problem and the link shortener bit.ly must be used, but I can't think of another solution. However, in no circumstances will link-shortening links be whitelisted by the external link spam filter so I cannot post the template properly. | |||
Is there anything else I could do to make them work? | |||
Cheers, | |||
] (]) 03:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Good question, probably asked at the wrong place (most editors here are generalists). I suggest either ] (despite the name, it's a place to get advice) or ] - but not both at the same time. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 06:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:You could try <code><nowiki>{{urlencode:{{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>REVISIONUSER}} ~~<includeonly></includeonly>~~<includeonly></includeonly>~}}</nowiki></code>, which should encode the user name and timestamp in the URL in a form that Google Translate will understand: {{urlencode:John of Reading 07:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)}} | |||
:But including 20 or so Google Translate URLs will make the template very long. How about a list of links to subpages of the template itself, such as ], which could contain a translation of the text with proper clickable wikilinks? -- ] (]) 07:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks, both of you. John (of Reading :) ) that's an excellent idea, I'll get right onto it. ] (]) 14:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Does not save == | |||
Good evening - I have tried over 10 times now to add to the Laguna Beach page the annual event in October and it never saves - please advise thank you xoxo <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:According to your contributions page, this is your first edit. Did you try to add that info before you made your account? (Not that there's any problem with that.). ] (]) 04:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
: The content about LPAPA on ] was moved into the "Annual Cultural Events" section. If you represent LPAPA please read the ] guidelines. Also, accounts can't be shared, so be careful of that too. ] (]) 05:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::The useraccount has been blocked (group name, advertising). -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 06:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== 'Popular Alm' == | |||
{{la|Popular Alm}} | |||
I was reading your article on the great harness horse "Popular Alm' and noticed that your list of owners was incorrect. I know this because my wife's Uncle - Jack Taggart was an owner and he was not amongst your listed owners. I have since been in touch with Harness Victoria and they have confirmed that Jack Taggart was indeed an owner during his racing career. I believe that the owners were V Knight, J Taggart and the "Sun Group". | |||
Doug Maxwell <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Hi, while we would like to take your word for it, and we have no specific reason to disbelieve you, Misplaced Pages policies ask that data be shored up with ]. So if you can cite articles online, or find other articles to support the changes you are proposing, you can either make the changes yourself (with citations), or submit your sources again to the help desk and we'll be happy to help. ] (]) 06:20, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Graph edit == | |||
I'm a ne user in Misplaced Pages and I want to edit an existing graph, but when I edit the post that the graph is in, it's just not there, like it's hidden. | |||
How can I edit the graph? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:What graph in what article? ] (]) 08:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Without knowing what page you are here about, I suspect that what you are seeing in the section is either the display of a template, or a section of another page in include only tags. I'll explain the first only, because the latter is rarer. See ] to learn about templates. In short, if you are seeing in the section you are trying to edit something like <nowiki>{{Name}}</nowiki>, then copy the name, go to Misplaced Pages's search field and type {{xt|Template:Name}} and then you should see the text that is displaying (being ''transcluded'') in the article. From there you can edit it but be wary of changing any code therein you don't understand.--] (]) 12:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Article has been delete by mistake == | |||
Hi, | |||
I had created an article about Afdesta international festival but it has been deleted surprisingly. I see the reason is advertisement but i cant determine how writing about a non-commercial festival could be type of advertisement ? | |||
I want my article back ! | |||
] | |||
Thanks<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
:A subject doesn't have to "commercial" for the article about it to be promotional. Anything can be promoted/advertised. You can ask the admin who deleted it ], to undeleted it to your sandbox where you will have to fix the problems before returning it to mainspace. You are also welcome to use the ] process where you will receive guidance until it is an acceptable article. ] (]) 09:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
*Pretty much what Dodger67 said. I don't mind letting you userfy it, but the other big issue is that I don't see where the event has really received any coverage in reliable sources (]) such as newspapers and the like. I see plenty of ] sources, but no actual coverage that would give notability as far as Misplaced Pages is considered. All articles have to have established notability. You can work on a userpage copy, but you wouldn't be able to move it to the mainspace until it meets notability guidelines. Let me know on my talk page if you're interested in a userpage copy. ]] 09:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Crashing columns == | |||
The columns in the article ] run into each other, making them difficult to read. I've tried reducing their width to 3 x 30% and inserting 2 x 5% blank columns between, which spaces the first two columns but breaks the format of the third - how can the columns be spaced apart? - ] (]) 09:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I have reformatted the table in a more standard way - will this do? I note that each entry includes a pipe symbol, possibly left over from when the list was a Misplaced Pages-style table. Maybe these could be deleted. ] (]) 10:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks, it is certainly more readable - albeit that the columns are different widths - I'll remove the pipes - ] (]) 11:12, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Maybe you could also leave out the dates of birth and death, as these are easily available from the linked Misplaced Pages pages. ] (]) 11:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Dalai Lama == | |||
Sir, | |||
I'm a regular wikipedia user and I also use to contribute articles on Wiki. The worst mistake I have ever seen on Misplaced Pages is the nationality of HH the Dalai Lama. Please change HH the Dalai Lama's nationality from Chinese to Tibetan. | |||
This is not only politically important but also sentiments of millions of people. | |||
Thank you! | |||
Eagerly waiting for your correction......... <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:29, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Where does Misplaced Pages say the nationality is Chinese? I cannot find it in ] or ] but he is mentioned in hundreds of other articles. ] (]) 12:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::He was born in ] in 1938. The one article I looked has his birthplace as China. The ] article states "...however, most of the communities of the rural areas of Amdo and Kham remained under their own local, Tibetan lay and monastic leaders into the 1950s." See also: ] --] (]) 16:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Company Name == | |||
Our company name is incorrectly displayed on Misplaced Pages. How can we change this? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:58, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Three easy steps: 1. Tell us what article this is about. 2. Tell us what the correct name is. 3. Provide us with acceptable proof of the correct name. ] (]) 16:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Agreeing with what Dodger67, note that the titles of articles are not always chosen by their "official" name, but by what is commonly used to refer to the them in ]. Also, we normally do not include corporate status indicators such as "Inc.", Corp. Ltd. etc. Please see ] and ]. Best regards--] (]) 18:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Added Edit on my Article for Creation is not on main article page. == | |||
Hello, I have just completed my article for Creation, Alfred Herbert Richardson. I have inserted a short paragraph into the Edit page, as normal, but it doesn't show up in the final whole document page. The added wordage is included in 'Show Changes' in the main article. What, if anything, do I do please ? | |||
] (]) 19:26, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
19.47hours. I have just discovered my <nowiki><ref></nowiki> and <nowiki></ref></nowiki> was misprinted by me. So the problem is solved. (!) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
==Text too small== | |||
The text used in articles and the watchlist is too small for me to read easily. If I use Firefox, I can choose to enlarge the page with the browser controls and Firefox will remember to do that just for Misplaced Pages. But Internet Explorer will apply the setting to all pages, which I don't want. Is there a way to make Internet Explorer only enlarge Misplaced Pages? Alternatively, is there something I can put in my profile or some other weird hidden location to make the text larger? ] (]) 20:54, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Misplaced Pages is all about accessibility, so it surprises me there's no text size setting. You can try adding the following text to ]: | |||
<pre> | |||
#mw-content-text { | |||
font-size:1.2em !important; | |||
} | |||
</pre> | |||
:Replace <code>1.2</code> with however large you'd like the text (for example, <code>1.3</code> or <code>1.4</code> or <code>1.5</code>, etc.) ] (]) 23:22, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks, that did it. ] (]) 04:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== A template for real world references to WIkipedia articles? == | |||
I vaguely remember some sort of tag used on talk pages to indicate that an article has been mentioned in the real world? I've come across a reference to the article ] in the 2010 judgment of the ] in ''SAS v World Programming Limited'': , at paragraph 56. Is there such a template? Help appreciated! Many thanks in advance! --] (]) 21:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:{{tl|Press}} or {{tl|Notable citation}}, perhaps. Neither seem quite suitable for a court case. -- ] (]) 21:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I don't think there is a template, but there is a list at ]. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' ]'''''<sup>]</sup></span> 01:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::: Thanks both, looks like it should go into the latter...--] (]) 08:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Title of page == | |||
I created the user name CogswellEntrepreneur but I am trying to create an article on Black Collar Entrepreneurs. I would like the title to be Black Collar Entrepreneurs. Currently the user name is what is showing. How do I make that change? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:52, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I wouldn't bother - your article won't pass our ] guidelines. We don't have articles on non-notable phrases, whether trademarked or otherwise. And by the way, read the ] - user names which purport to represent organisations are not permitted. ] (]) 22:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I thought ] was being a bit harsh there – until I read your draft article. ] (]) 22:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::I know: even among spammers, that was one of the most contemptibly vile pieces of promotional dung I've ever had the misfortune to step in. --] | ] 14:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== One baby, two biological fathers == | |||
Is ] a hoax article? It bases its notability on the claim that one child can have two biological fathers, but then downplays that assertion by calling it a "concept" in the second and third sentences. And look at the horrendous sourcing for the article. If my instincts are correct on this, can someone please take steps to have the article deleted? --] (]) 23:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I've deleted the word "biological" from the article, because the examples from folklore appear to be non-biological fatherhood. It is not a hoax article. It has been here since 2007. What is wrong with the sourcing, anyway? If you don't like the article, improve it, or comment on the talk page. ] (]) 23:57, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::It is worth noting that in some 'western' societies, common law asserts '], which may make a man the legal father of his wife's child, even if he isn't the biological parent. I'll check the sources though, and see if the article needs further clarification. ] (]) 00:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Robert, your removal of the word "biological" eliminates the article's claim of notability, which is that one child can have two biological fathers. Obviously, though, your removal of that key word indicates your agreement that the article's claim of one child, two biological fathers is completely unsubstantiated. There are zero reliable sources that verify that claim. You also asked me what's wrong with the sourcing. Well, there are just three sources. The first is , which says nothing about one baby, two biological fathers. The second is simply the name of a book, and the cite doesn't give ''any'' detailed information about where the information can be found that supposedly verifies the content in the article. The third is to some woman's personal blog (and of course says nothing about a child having two biological fathers). Do you consider this reliable sourcing? And why, as you suggested, would I try to improve an article where there are no reliable sources to verify its claim of notability? Thanks Andy for your input, but of course presumption of paternity is a completely different issue. It's simply a legal determination about which one man is presumed to be the father of a child. But thanks for looking into it. Anyway, ''if'' the claim being made is that partible paternity is basically a concept associated with shared parenting, then the article should be clearly presented that way ''and'' include solid, reliable sources to verify all of its content. Thanks. --] (]) 00:40, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
{{od}} | |||
I've just researched the history of the article and (five years after the article was created) that changed the entire direction of the article! Look at the changes made to the opening paragraph, and of course read the edit summary. A night and day difference in the definition of partible paternity from the . --] (]) 00:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
And for the record, although the article has indeed been around for almost eight years, it's only had since then. In fact, it went about two and a half years with no edits at all. So it's an article that's essentially been hidden far below the radar. --] (]) 01:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It seems the article needs looking into properly - thanks for bringing it to our attention. As for whether some societies have believed (or even still do) that having two fathers is ''biologically'' possible, I suspect that the answer may well depend on what is meant by 'biology' in the context - and as my studies in anthropology remind me, such questions are seldom easy to answer - or perhaps best not actually answered at all, if one has to shoehorn another culture's concepts into our own to do so. ] (]) 01:13, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::You're very welcome, Andy. Thanks for the friendly assistance and additional information! --] (]) 01:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Anthropology to the rescue: ''"...among the Mehinaku of Brazil, speakers of a language in the Arawak family, Thomas Gregor found two theories of conception: “Both theories assert that one sexual act is insufficient to conceive a child. Rather, the infant is formed through repeated acts of intercourse. Since all but three of the village women are involved in extramarital affairs, the semen of the mother’s husband may form only a portion of the infant.... Joint paternity is further recognized at birth when the putative fathers of the baby honor attenuated versions of the couvade and acceptsome of the obligations of in-laws when the child grows up and gets married"'' ] (]) 01:29, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::On the other hand: . ] (]) 01:33, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
*It's a thing in anthropology. Well a concept at least. (Shapiro is usually more of a sociobiological culture warrior than an ethnographer, but I haven't reviewed his argument here) I've actually read that in cats different kittens in the same litter may have different genitors.] 01:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::You guys intrigue me with your research and knowledge on this topic, especially Andy's enthusiasm. Haha. All I know is that the article needs serious improvement, so thanks to Robert for adding the rewrite template. I'm really glad that the article at least has eyes on it now. :) --] (]) 02:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:And then of course there is reported by the Beeb.--] (]) 12:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Maunus has now updated the article - it seems (no surprise) that there are still answered questions regarding the matter. ] (]) | |||
= June 28 = | |||
== Need Assistance == | |||
I would like assistance in deleting the duplicate edits. I tried undoing them but I just keep getting more history. | |||
] | |||
Thank you. ] (]) 01:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Hi Heditor. You keep in the external links section. My head is spinning from all the back and forth. Haha. What is it that you would like to do? --] (]) 01:29, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I have it removed now. Was just experimenting to see if I could erase the history. Guess it's not possible. Thanks for responding. :) | |||
:::No, you cannot erase the history. Only admins can , and it can only be done under very limited circumstances. --] (]) 01:38, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Btw, I should have addressed why you kept adding to the history instead of reducing it. Every time you click the "undo" link next to an edit on the history page, it's simply removing (reverting) the changes made by that editor (even if you're reverting yourself). So every time you reverted yourself, that counted as an edit. ;) --] (]) 01:51, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Change title == | |||
Hello. I was wondering if there is a way to change the title of "]" to "]". I was going to use the "move" button but I am not sure if I understood completely how to do it and if it's the right way. Plus, while I was trying to figure it out, I saw that there is already a page with the name "Tableau Vivant (Modern Family)" but it's redirected to the ] one. So, to avoid doing anything stupid I prefered to ask. I just remove the redirect and then move the first one to the second? Thanks in advance. ] (]) 01:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Admin needs to delete the redirect first. I usually just tag the redirect speedy (un-contentious maintenance), then move after deletion, and the re-create a new redirect.--] (]) 01:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I've tagged the redirect with {{tl|db-move}} with an explanation. :) ] (]) 02:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ec}} Yes TG, , an episode of the show, currently redirects to ], the show's article. But that's wrong and you are correct. All ] that have titles of existing articles should be titled using the "Episode Title (''Modern Family'')" format. --] (]) 02:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks everyone for the help. I am here only 2 weeks and still trying to learn. And from what I see, I am glad I didn't remove the redirect on my own. ] thanks for adding the tag. Hopefully an administration can help :) ] (]) 02:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Glossary breakdown == | |||
] uses ] through the whole article. Half way through 'L' it breaks and becomes unreadable. The article is 350kB which is huge. I tried a couple times to fix but the WMF error page keeps showing up. I don't know if it is my sys or the connection. There are lots of glossary template bugs and bug fixes on the talk page. Does anyone else want to look into it?--] (]) 02:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:First time I've ever come to the help desk and seen one my pet articles raised here. I've fixed the issue, which was that {{tl|cuegloss}} and {{tl|cuegloss2}} have been nominated for deletion and the nominator failed to enclose the tfd template in noinclude tags. Glad you were on the alert.--] (]) 02:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::No problem.{{resolved}}--] (]) 03:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Fatal exception message == | |||
Hi, I keep getting this message when I try to edit or just access my watchlist - 2013-06-28 04:57:40: Fatal exception of type MWException - Can this be fixed, please? ] (]) 05:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
: Hi, look, sorry about that, it seems to have fixed itself. Thanks anyway. ] (]) 05:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Seems like the whole site was down for about 15 minutes. I could only access the mainpage; click on anything else and you got that error. I'm sure we'll be hearing more about it.--] (]) 05:10, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Wow, that was an ugly outage. I told Fuhgettaboutit not to click that big red button that said "destroy the site". :p And, uh, the toolbar here is gone, so I have to manually type my four tildes. Haha. ] (]) 05:26, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::]:-)--] (]) 12:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== problems with uploading & clicking to pictures == | |||
Hi I don't know why but an "internal fatal error" notice in a red box comes up when I've edited an article or if I click on a picture to see the bigger file. Contents of box reads: 2013-06-28 04:59:21: Fatal exception of type MWException - this might just happen again when I submit. What's going on? Fingers crossed. ] (]) 05:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Oh, just saw the section above. Okay. Will wait. ] (]) 05:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== No toolbars when editing == | |||
I know the site was down for 15 minutes or so, but does everyone ''not'' have a toolbar when they edit pages? I have nothing above the edit box and just a long list of symbols below it. But no links, no templates, no menus, anywhere on the edit page. ] (]) 05:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
: Seems ok to me, but another editor a few questions up made the same comment about missing toolbar. If you're still having that issue, you should ask at ]. ] (]) 06:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::See I started at VP. I hope they fix this soon. ] (]) 07:20, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Word is that the site was actually down for about 45 minutes. Now if I could just get back the normal edit page. Can't do everything manually forever. Haha. I'm sure there are many other edtiors having the same problem. ] (]) 07:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Where is the "Advice to academics" page? == | |||
There is a page somewhere that explains the "tertiary source" nature of WP to writers who are more used to writing in acadamic journals. I need it to help an editor who is attempting to write an article here about his current research towards his PhD - "I do plan to publish my synthesis in a peer reviewed journal in organic chemistry and this process will be easier when the reviewer can view the short but sweet Misplaced Pages article on the compound."<]> -- ] (]) 06:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Perhaps ] or ]. -- ] (]) 06:45, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks John. ] (]) 07:00, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Profile == | |||
I wanted to know what does it take to have a wikipedia profile of your own? Does someone have to be rich, famous or infamous etc... | |||
What if I want to create my own wikipedia profile, can I? I have several online articles on crime, politics etc...I can have a good enough profile, what would it take? Does the Wiki team decide this? | |||
Do reply please, | |||
Rustam Roy <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:38, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Do you want to write an article about yourself, or about an encyclopedic topic about which you are knowledgeable? In the former case, writing an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. See the policies on ] and on ]. In the latter case, please be sure that the topic is not already covered in one of our articles. If it is in one of our articles, but you want to add content, you may edit the article. If it is not covered, then you may create an article, but you are advised to first read our policies and guidelines so that your contributions are neutral, not overly promotional, and are otherwise encyclopedic. ] (]) 12:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::You are not currently registered. Creating a registered account has several advantages, including the privilege of creating new articles. ] (]) 12:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:"Famous or infamous" might get someone an article depending on just how famous or infamous they are - more specifically see the ] standard - I'm a afraid merely being "rich" won't do it. ] (]) 13:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Misplaced Pages does not contain profiles: it is not a directory. It contains articles, which are neutrally written summaries of what has already been written in reliable published places about notable subjects. --] (]) 14:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== 100K Initiative, Project Pengyou, and Golden Bridges == | |||
Hello! | |||
I was wondering if Obama's 100K Strong Initiative, as well as organizations Golden Bridges and Project Pengyou (Both of which are affiliated with the initiative), are notable enough to write Misplaced Pages articles on. I believe they are very important organizations that promote Chinese and American cultural understanding, which will be key in the development of these two country's very important relationship, not to mention global relations as a whole. | |||
Thanks for your help! | |||
Joey <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: I would suggest bringing this up on the talk page of the ] article. You say ''which will be key'' which sounds like something that may happen in the future (see ]). That wouldn't be suitable encyclopaedic content. If reliable, notable, sources describe these organizations in conjuction with relations between those 2 countries then adding them to that article may be the best approach. ] (]) 12:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Standard Alliance Insurance Nigeria PLC == | |||
hello | |||
I represent the above mentioned company as an online brand manager . I would like to point out that I have not been able to see my article on the above company which I created a few weeks ago. | |||
kindly review your system and let me know if i need to rectify anything. | |||
best regards | |||
Arinze Asiegbunam <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:19, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: You created ], but didn't submit it for review. You would need to click the link that says "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!". Before that, however, you ought to read Misplaced Pages's guidance on ]. It is difficult for someone with a conflict of interest to write an article with a ], and it is likely that an attempt will be seen as ], which I think is the case for your draft. You also need to read ]. - ] (]) 11:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:(edit conflict) Click "Contributions" at the top of any page to see your edits. You created ] The box at the top says "Article not currently submitted for review." If you want to submit it then click the green button saying "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!" It will probably be rejected in the current form. I recommend you make it far less promotional before submitting. See ] for how to make section headings so the table of contents is automatically generated. ] (]) 11:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Article Creation - ការបង្កើតអត្ថបទ - L'création de l'article == | |||
*I would like to create an article, but I have no English sources, only Cambodian. Is this permissible? | |||
* ខ្ញុំចង់បង្កើតអត្ថបទមួយប៉ុន្តែខ្ញុំមិនមានប្រភពភាសាអង់គ្លេសទេក្នុងប្រទេសកម្ពុជាតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ។ នេះគឺអនុញ្ញាត? | |||
* Je voudrais créer un article, mais je n'ai pas de sources anglaises, seulement cambodgiens. Est-ce autorisé? | |||
--] (]) 13:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, articles on the English Misplaced Pages do not require sources to be in English, so you can write an article based on ] sources provided they pass the ] standard. If you want to write an article in French you can get assistance at ]. -- ] (]) 13:20, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::But see ]. Translations may be required under some circumstances. ] (]) 13:36, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::: Thank you Rodger and Andy. --] (]) 18:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Review an article == | |||
Just wanted to know if there is a way or a place where I can put an article I created so it can be reviewed. For example, I've created ] but it didn't get reviewed yet. Do I have to do something to make this possible? Thanks ] (]) 15:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I have made some minor formatting edits and added a {{tl|new}} template to alert others that it may need reviewing in more depth.--] (]) 15:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::]? ] (]) 15:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks ]. Can I add this tag on my own in every article I make or someone else has to do it for me? And ] thank you so much for the article. I'll go through it but it'll take me some time since it seems long :) Hope it's helpful. ] (]) 15:32, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes you can add it yourself. We usually encourage newer users to create drafts in a user sandbox or at ] first so that they can be reviewed before being moved to the mainspace. If you use a sandbox, you can tag it with {{tl|User draft}}. If you use AFC there are instructions there as to how to tag for review.--] (]) 16:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== right to left == | |||
i want to write from arabic book. in arabic language, word are right to left. but in english site is left to right. what i must to do ? --] (]) 15:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Please see ]. ] (]) 15:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The is also the . ] (]) 15:57, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Or as an interlanguage link ].--] (]) 16:00, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== What has happened to my username? == | |||
It is red, and though I sign posts as directed (Gimelgort 18:20, 28 June 2013 (UTC)) it reads unsigned thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Tis blue now (it don't turn red until some thing has been added into the text box (in this case just a "full stop")- don't worry, you'll soon get the hang of it).--] (]) 18:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::To expand on that a little, your signature (or anywhere else that the link ] appears) links to ]. However, that page doesn't exist until you or someone else creates it. Misplaced Pages's software marks links to non-existent pages in red (clicking on them will give you the option of creating that page) - since your userpage hadn't been created, your name appeared in red whenever it was linked. Now that there is some content on the page, the link has turned blue, indicating that the link's target is an existing page. You can edit your userpage to supply other editors with information about yourself; see ] for more information about this. ] ]‍] 19:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The easiest way to get a valid signature is to leave the "Signature" field at ] blank, and not have a checkmark at "Treat the above as wiki markup". ] (]) 19:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== St. == | |||
Good afternoon, | |||
I am a Communications Specialist writing on behalf of the St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners. As the local government body serving St. Johns County, our organization has a vested interest in the content written on the Misplaced Pages page designated for our region. In our efforts to provide residents, visitors, and external viewers with the most up-to-date and factual information regarding St. Johns County, we recently established a Misplaced Pages account to offer edits and improvements to the page. Out of respect and consideration for the rules and guidelines detailed by Misplaced Pages, we have made consistent efforts to offer content which we feel supports Misplaced Pages’s goals of sharing unbiased, community based, and reference backed information. Though we are extremely proud of St. Johns County and would love to fill the Misplaced Pages page with endless accolades, we recognize our responsibility to offer site visitors neutral information. We welcome any feedback on how best to balance these efforts. As an example, we would like to share the fact that St. Johns County has been recognized as having the number one school district in the state. There are numerous references explaining this recognition, how it was established, and what it means for our residents and the future of St. Johns County. With your help, we hope to share this type of County fact on Misplaced Pages in an appropriate fashion. Thank you in advance for your time. | |||
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January 5
The fair use file I uploaded is about to be deleted. What can I do?
File:Longxiangqiao station diagram.jpg Félix An (talk) 02:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Following the directions on the page itself, it says
Note : if you believe that a free replacement image cannot be reasonably found or created please add one of the following without removing this tag...
. Alternatively you can reach out to Iruka13 who placed the CSD F7 on the page to begin with. TiggerJay (talk) 02:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Problems saving via Wayback Machine
I know this isn't a Misplaced Pages problem, but was just wondering if anyone else has experienced problems recently with trying to archive pages using Wayback Machine recently. I haven't been able to save any for many weeks now, never having experienced any problems with it before. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- It got hacked and attacked and now its slowly recovering (which can take a while).
In September 2024, the Internet Archive suffered a data breach that exposed 31 million records containing personal information, including email addresses and hashed passwords. On October 9, 2024, the site went down due to a distributed denial-of-service attack. On October 14, the site returned online, but it remained in read-only mode until November 4, during which time "Save Page Now" was disabled, replaced with a "Temporarily Unavailable" banner.
-- Wayback Machine Polygnotus (talk) 09:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)- You could use https://archive.ph/ I started using it when the WM went down. Its really really slow sometimes but if you get it in the morning (GMT) its fast. First time I used it had 5.5k entries waiting to archive. The Internet Archive, poor thing, has been right since its been hacked. It getting there slowly. scope_creep 22:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Seeking Editor for Translated Misplaced Pages Article on Nozomi Nagata in Tribute to His Passing
My friend, Nagata Nozomi, a Japanese author, has recently passed away. In honor of him, I have translated his Misplaced Pages page into English and would like to publish it. The translation is complete, but I need assistance with editing it to meet Misplaced Pages’s standards, properly citing sources, and ensuring it adheres to Misplaced Pages’s writing format. I don’t have previous experience with editing or the Misplaced Pages writing style, so I would deeply appreciate the help of a kind editor or a volunteer to make the necessary adjustments. Thank you very much. Any support would mean a lot.
Original page: https://ja.wikipedia.org/永田希?oldformat=true
Translated page: https://en.wikipedia.org/User:EternalPsyche/Nozomi_Nagata EternalPsyche (talk) 03:21, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- (moved from talk) ''']''' (talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- EternalPsyche, I haven't bothered to read the page ja:永田希; but I note that it does have references. Your translation does not. Us volunteers are busy: we answer specific questions and requests, but rarely if ever requests to turn (sorry, but) half-baked drafts into articles. So put in the references yourself: links on this page (WP:HD) will take you -- not directly, but simply enough -- to pages where the mechanics of referencing are explained. You say he had a "unique approach to reading" without saying what this approach was. What was it? (And which authoritative source, independent of Nagata, writes that it was unique?) You say that "Nagata's passion for literature was deeply influenced by his fascination with noise and industrial music" but you don't say what the influence was. What was it? Don't make Japanese script oblique ("italic"); doing so is ugly. And -- but no, that's enough for now. Happy editing! -- Hoary (talk) 05:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- -- Except that another quick look at ja:永田希, EternalPsyche, makes it clear that a number of what are formatted like references aren't really references. (Common are the publication details of books mentioned in the body text.) Where are the reliable sources that discuss Nagata or his works in some depth? These are necessary, in order to show that he's "notable", as defined by and for Misplaced Pages. Note that material produced by his publishers, and what he might have said in interviews, don't count. -- Hoary (talk) 06:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @EternalPsyche: I had a look at the article as well. It is a slightly WP:Promoish, using flowery and promotional language which is unsuitable for a mainspace biographical article. I put a couple of tags in that were needed. The JP references mainly constitutes interviews per Hoary's comments above. There is an obituary which is a start, but I think as he's an author, I would look for book reviews so he could pass WP:NAUTHOR. If you can find a couple of reviews for each of the books, 2 or 3 covered with a couple of reviews each would be ideal, then he will pass WP:NAUTHOR. However, the article itself needs substantial work. It reads a blog entry, is promo, so currently unsuitable for Misplaced Pages. You would need to send it to draft once you got the reviews. Hope that helps. scope_creep 22:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Intersection of "What links here" for two pages
Hello all,
Trying to make sure that no pages link to both Help:Your first article and Misplaced Pages:Article creation (newly a redirect), as in the case of Misplaced Pages:Help Project#Pages needing work's bottom cell; I don't really care about changing all the links to point directly to the Help page, but rather just the pages that have links to both.
Any help appreciated!
JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 05:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob there are currently 287 pages that link to both. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 05:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- How did you get that number? JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 06:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- The PetScan query I linked above. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 06:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob: Our search can also do it with
linksto:
and currently says 287. I would first update templates which link to the redirect . Then wait a while for the job queue to update link tables before making the first search. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC) - @CanonNi: Oh my goodness, missed that entirely, thanks so much! Also thank you to @PrimeHunter JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 17:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob: Our search can also do it with
- The PetScan query I linked above. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 06:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- How did you get that number? JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 06:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
delete draft
please Draft:Azaad (2025 film) 2 by Sunuraju (talk) 06:45, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I believe you want Misplaced Pages:Drafts#Deleting_drafts. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 07:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sunuraju There is no need for you to take any action to delete the draft. Abandoned drafts are automatically deleted in six months of inactivity. More likely in this case is that the film will attract some reviews once it has been released and the existing draft may help someone create an article meeting the film notability guideleines. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Revision history
Please look at User talk:Footballnerd2007 and User talk:Footballnerd2007/Archive 1. Today, the user archived their Talk page by moving it to Archive 1. Why can't I see the revision history of the Talk page? It looks like Archive 1 has the history the Talk page "should" have. Even if the user's archiving was unorthodox, I don't see how they can "eliminate" a page's history.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: are you asking how Footballnerd2007 moved the history of their talk page or whether there is a rule about moving the history of their talk page? I can't find a rule, but it is obviously unhelpful to readers and thus a bad idea. TSventon (talk) 15:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: This archiving method is described at Help:Archiving a talk page/Details#Other procedures. The method is still allowed, as far as I know, but is "generally no longer used". Moving/renaming a page automatically moves the history to the new page name, as always. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- They haven't eliminated it - what they did was move their talk page to the archive, and then created a new page at the talk page (or, well, created a redirect and then turned that into a talk page).
- I'm not sure it's the right way to do it, but it's completely possible for all users. Lee Vilenski 15:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
as always
. Heh, I guess I've never seen it done before and noticed the effect. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
An interwiki redirect question
I recently saw Fuckloads, By the fuckload, and Fuckload, all of which are soft redirects to the Wiktionary entry for fuckload. I thought that it might be reasonable to hard redirect Fuckloads and By the fuckload to Fuckload, since that's the page whose title is closest to the Wiktionary entry. But is it acceptable to redirect soft redirects to each other? JJPMaster (she/they) 22:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Since there is no actual Misplaced Pages entry for any of these, I see no reason to not just keep the soft redirects. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
January 6
Bellarine, Victoria
Reference number 22 is "Not Quite Right" (in red). Please fix. I am sorry. Srbernadette (talk) 06:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Before somebody kindly fixed it, reference 22 told the reader (in red) "Check date values in: |date=". This means that the value specified for the date is invalid. And the cite template read "date=20144", which (as it has not four but five digits) is several thousand years into the future. -- Hoary (talk) 06:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Emma Thynn, Marchioness of Bath
ref number 6 is in the red too - Im sorry, I will try not do any more editing this year! Please fix this reef. Thank you in advance. Srbernadette (talk) 09:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Did that help? Also the year has just started. Perhaps try to do more and better editing this year. Polygnotus (talk) 09:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Statement: True or false?
I think users with less than 500 edits can't be administrators. Gnu779 (talk) 13:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- There have been cases of admins from other Wikimedia projects but very few contributions on English Misplaced Pages, who are promoted to adminship here to facilitate particular cross-wiki tasks.WP:ADMINship is a position of community trust, and editors with brief tenures and few contributions have not yet had the opportunity to build that trust. Folly Mox (talk) 13:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- So if someone was an editor with only about 100 edits, will they be or not? No, right? Gnu779 (talk) 13:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- See guidance at WP:RFA. The formal requirement for adminship is 500 edits and 30 days of experience. However, a user who only meets this minimum standard is almost certain not to pass an RFA. GMG 13:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- So if I was a user with 505 edits, I can't still be? Gnu779 (talk) 12:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You can run. But your odds of succeeding would be near zero. It's fairly common for RfA candidates with thousands of edits to be opposed by the community due to lack of experience. GMG 12:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- So where can I apply? (I forgot) Gnu779 (talk) 13:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- You can run. But your odds of succeeding would be near zero. It's fairly common for RfA candidates with thousands of edits to be opposed by the community due to lack of experience. GMG 12:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- So if I was a user with 505 edits, I can't still be? Gnu779 (talk) 12:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- See guidance at WP:RFA. The formal requirement for adminship is 500 edits and 30 days of experience. However, a user who only meets this minimum standard is almost certain not to pass an RFA. GMG 13:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- So if someone was an editor with only about 100 edits, will they be or not? No, right? Gnu779 (talk) 13:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Likely copyvio ?
First, I wish you a very happy new year !
I hope I'm not in the wrong section. Here is the main issue :
File:Herge with bust of Tintin.png
I wonder if this photography uploaded on en.wikipedia.org has not been made by Jacques Pavlovsky (just died in 2023) for french Sygma agency, September 18, 1975. Here other sources to evaluate this issue : https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/belgian-cartoonist-georges-prosper-remi-aka-hergé-at-home-news-photo/1441929742
Exactly the same type of light, same time (1975), same haircut, same shirt with rolled up sleeves and same tie, same place (at home in Brussels), ...
And here, the same Tintin's bust statue in the exactly same state : https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/belgian-cartoonist-georges-prosper-remi-aka-hergé-at-home-news-photo/583065342
Hergé was very conservative about photoshootings and it's very unlikely that any other photographer could have been worked at the same period for one of his last album of Tintin press promotion.
Regards. Tisourcier (talk) 13:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Tisourcier Looking at the NFCC tags on the image, it looks like the uploader made a good-faith effort to identify the photographer but failed. I think it's plausible that Pavlovsky is the photographer, in which case the author credit for the image should be changed. However, the image would still be usable on Misplaced Pages, since it meets the non-free content criteria. —C.Fred (talk) 13:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Article name change
Hello, I am debating whether should I change the name for the former Kandara Airport into Jeddah Airport, or keep it the same. The term “Kandara Airport” was probably coined by the former airport’s location to the area, and that people didn’t want to confuse it with the newer King Abdulaziz International Airport (nicknamed Jeddah Airport). And also, before 1981 when the new one was built, the former one was officially named Jeddah Airport according to historical documents and videos. If I changed it, it would have been more historically accurate. Any thoughts? Bollardant (talk) 14:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- The best place to discuss this is at Talk:Kandara Airport. When a subject has more than one possible name, it is best to get a consensus before renaming the article.--♦IanMacM♦ 14:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- A notice should also be added to Talk:King Abdulaziz International Airport as Jeddah Airport redirects there. A Misplaced Pages:Hatnote at King Abdulaziz International Airport or a Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation page at Jeddah Airport are alternative options. TSventon (talk) 15:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
What's my actual edit count?
As of before I add this topic:
Your impact: 371 Total edits
View all edits > User contributions for Therguy10: A user with 372 Edits.
Am I missing something here? Thanks! Therguy10 (talk) 18:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are a couple of things that impact your edit count, depending on what tools and methodology are being used. Some are based on all contributions, while others reduce your edit county by deleted edits (sometimes called "live" edits). Plus some pages are cached, for performance reasons, so their data might lag being by a few edits (or minutes)... For more information also see WP:EDITCOUNT. TiggerJay (talk) 18:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @TiggerjayInteresting, I'll keep that in mind. I'll probably go off of my User Contribs but that's good to know that it can differ. Thank you! Therguy10 (talk) 19:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Therguy10: if you click on "Preferences", that will show you edit count. This is my 323,426th edit. Mjroots (talk) 11:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: are you sure that 323,426 is a complete and accurate count? Your edit count report shows
- Global edit counts (approximate) ► en.wikipedia.org 323,426
- and
- Live edits 322,487 · (98.9%) deleted edits 3,486 · (1.1%) Total edits 325,973
- TSventon (talk) 13:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Therguy10: if you click on "Preferences", that will show you edit count. This is my 323,426th edit. Mjroots (talk) 11:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @TiggerjayInteresting, I'll keep that in mind. I'll probably go off of my User Contribs but that's good to know that it can differ. Thank you! Therguy10 (talk) 19:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Reference errors
Greetings, can someone with more stamina and time go into Hualca Hualca and resolve the reference errors? I don't know how to fix the spurious sfn error, for instance. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Maintenance categories
Hello, I have a few discussions (1 and 2) concerning maintenance categories that I would like to bump - WT:CATP is pretty quiet. Would there be an appropriate noticeboard to bump these discussions? The village pump and subsidiary boards seems to be for larger discussions. Tule-hog (talk) 20:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- 1) if you want to ask what a category is for, you can just ask its creator. I pinged them for ya.
- 2) looks like this topic died a natural death after Anne drew said
According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details
. If you want feedback you could use Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals) or WP:3O. Polygnotus (talk) 20:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Advice on appropriate informational/warning template
A user tagged me this afternoon on another user's talk page in the context of trying to recruit other editors to collectively undermine the work of me and a collaborator in our ongoing efforts to improve Postmodernism. Please see the comment here. (Apparently this has something to do with the off-Wiki group GSoW. I'd never heard of it.)
This first editor has made only one edit to the article in question (or actually just its talk page), three years ago, with a minor question about the presence of a sidebar.
Aside from this ping (which I suspect was an accident), they have made no efforts to contact me or to offer criticism or suggestions on the article talk page.
Is there a template of some kind I could add to their user talk? Obviously some of this is just ignorance of Misplaced Pages culture and norms, but wow is this the wrong attitude to start with.
Thanks for your thoughts on how to handle this —
Cheers, Patrick (talk) 21:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Patrick Welsh: Are there any other relevant links you know of? If not, then it seems you are overreacting and failing to AGF. It is not (yet) clear if these are nefarious people doing nefarious deeds or simply people who have a boring content dispute about a boring wikipedia article which can be solved with a boring conversation. And my money is on the second option. There is an article about @Sgerbic: over at Susan Gerbic. Polygnotus (talk) 21:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm afraid not, just the post at User talk:Sgerbic. OneSkyWalker's account dates back to 2006, but it has only 107 edits that, at least at a glance, appear innocuous.
- GSoW is apparently a group that coordinates offline campaigns against stuff like pseudoscience on Misplaced Pages. I don't know anything about them except what's on their website, and that User:Sgerbic is the founder and principle coordinator. Patrick (talk) 21:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Meh, my advice would be to relax and invite them to have a conversation on the talkpage. Postmodernism is not a form of pseudoscience, and you are not a psychic, so I think you have nothing to worry about. Polygnotus (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I will take your advice. I really don't love the battleground mentality, however, or the deliberate secrecy. I mean why not at least try starting on the article talk page? Patrick (talk) 21:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some internet users expect Misplaced Pages to be a turnbased combat game, and it certainly can be. But there are also many articles where polite people politely disagree about topics that are not very exciting (like Postmodernism). The mention of GSoW seems to be unrelated to Postmodernism article. And, if my Google-fu is to be trusted, the GSoW secrecy is based on old unrelated drama. Nothing to worry about. Polygnotus (talk) 22:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Just to be sure we're not talking past one another, I'm totally fine with editors coming to the article talk page full of objections to this-or-that shortcoming. I welcome it!
- My problem here is that the editor did not do this. Instead, they went to the talk page of user who has not worked on the page seeking collaborators to edit the article in a way that they apparently expect in advance will wind up in arbitration.
- Oh, and I have no problem with Susan Gerbic. I too am opposed to pseudoscience. Patrick (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I understand. I can think of plausible non-nefarious reasons why that editor showed up at Susans talk instead of at the Postmodernism talk. I myself have also posted on a more experienced users talkpage saying something like "I think article x is imperfect what do you think" instead of posting on the talkpage of that article because I was unsure I wanted to get involved without the support of someone saner and more experienced than I am, and as a sanity check if my opinion even made sense. Polygnotus (talk) 22:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some internet users expect Misplaced Pages to be a turnbased combat game, and it certainly can be. But there are also many articles where polite people politely disagree about topics that are not very exciting (like Postmodernism). The mention of GSoW seems to be unrelated to Postmodernism article. And, if my Google-fu is to be trusted, the GSoW secrecy is based on old unrelated drama. Nothing to worry about. Polygnotus (talk) 22:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I will take your advice. I really don't love the battleground mentality, however, or the deliberate secrecy. I mean why not at least try starting on the article talk page? Patrick (talk) 21:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Meh, my advice would be to relax and invite them to have a conversation on the talkpage. Postmodernism is not a form of pseudoscience, and you are not a psychic, so I think you have nothing to worry about. Polygnotus (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Something to play with
It's an AI bias checker. I'd use with extreme caution. It doesn't seem to like authoritative sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah that is nonsense. It is simply a wrapper around an OpenAI API call. And why oh why do they hate webdesign so much? Polygnotus (talk) 22:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- They are demonic (favourite word of the month) sent to try you. I don't understand it. Webdesign is an establish industry with traditions. No need for it with a well established and well understood design ethos. scope_creep 22:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Where is doomguy when you need him? Polygnotus (talk) 09:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- They are demonic (favourite word of the month) sent to try you. I don't understand it. Webdesign is an establish industry with traditions. No need for it with a well established and well understood design ethos. scope_creep 22:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
J1 League
Are there instructions on how to access and use these updaters in Japanese football (soccer)? This is from Kawasaki Frontale Daxion (talk) 23:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Daxion: Your heading says
{{Japanese football updater|KawasakF}}
. That means it's calling Template:Japanese football updater. If you edit it then you can see some instructions at the top of the source code. If you mean how to call it then there is documentation for some similar templates in Category:Association football infobox updater templates: {{Brazilian football updater}}, {{English football updater}}, {{Spanish football updater}}, {{Welsh football updater}}. I haven't used any of them or examined the documentation but I guess they work similarly. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
January 7
Namespace number
Why there are numbers in namespace? What is the purpose of that namespace number? Vitaium (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vitaium: Probably because that's how they get stored in the database(s). Imagine you have 6 million records in a database. Much better to store a zero for each of those to denote that its an article than the string "article". Polygnotus (talk) 08:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vitaium: See Misplaced Pages:Namespace#Programming. Template code with namespace numbers can be copied between wikis where the names are different. Namespace numbers are also used in other places, e.g. some url's to restrict features like search or WhatLinksHere to selected namespaces. If you don't make namespace-dependent templates or tinker with url parameters then you may never need the numbers. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I am not permitted to Requests for page protection/Increase/Form
I am trying to report persistent vandalism over the span of 6 months on the article Gang rape#India, I am not permitted to do so. I get the message
Failed to create request. Error code: abusefilter-disallowed. Please try again or ask for help at WT:RFPP.
Can you perhaps submit it for me? I don't think it can get fixed i've tried alot of things. ContributedEditor (talk) 09:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging the man behind the hair, our beloved Sideshow Bob, @Oshwah:. Polygnotus (talk) 09:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The title of the article was triggering an edit filter. Your submission to WP:EFFP was already handled, no need to cross post. OhNoitsJamie 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Changing the italics in a title
Would like to propose this for Ikebana as it appears Roman and uncapped in Merriam-Web. thanks Shelter3 (talk) 11:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Shelter3: Ikebana use {{Italic title}} to deliberately display the title in italics per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Non-English-language terms. Page names start with a capital letter unless the first word would usually be written lowercase at the start of a sentence like iPhone. Merriam-Webster is a dictionary so they want to show how a word is written inside a sentence but they still say Ikebana when the word starts a sentence. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia. Our sister project Wiktionary is a dictionary and their article is wiktionary:ikebana. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to clarify, it is already IN italics and needs to be Roman. So: {{Roman title}}?--Shelter3 (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Shelter3: Ikebana uses {{Italic title}} to deliberately display the title in italics, so you could remove the Italic title template to remove the italics. The article is in UK English so arguably you should check a UK English dictionary. TSventon (talk) 11:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to clarify, it is already IN italics and needs to be Roman. So: {{Roman title}}?--Shelter3 (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Referencing edits, citations, etc from the talk page
I’ve been collaborating with someone on the talk page of an article, but I’ve had difficulty finding clear standards or easy methods for referencing an edit or citation from the article we’re discussing. I’ve even struggled to find a simple way to quote something someone has said on the talk page. After some searching and working with raw code, I was able to use something like Talk Quote Block.
Since talk pages seem so important, is there a page that outlines all the tools available for constructive discussion? If such a page exists, I’ve honestly tried to find it! :D Dr pangloss (talk) 13:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know about all of the available tools, but Help:Talk seems like a place to start. DonIago (talk) 14:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- How would you link to a citation in the article? Or a previous edit? I have just gone to the edit and copied the URL from the taskbar, or gone into the source code and copied the link to the citation if it has an external link or file. Dr pangloss (talk) 17:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You can link to a previous edit as a WP:DIFF, if you mean a comparison of an old and new version of text; it sounds like you may have ultimately done something equivalent. If you wanted to link to a citation. I'd probably just quote the text where the relevant citation is listed, but it's not something I personally have needed to do thus far. DonIago (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- How would you link to a citation in the article? Or a previous edit? I have just gone to the edit and copied the URL from the taskbar, or gone into the source code and copied the link to the citation if it has an external link or file. Dr pangloss (talk) 17:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The template {{tq}} is sometimes useful for quoting text from an article or posting - it displays it in green. --ColinFine (talk) 19:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- {{Reflist-talk}} is also useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Can't fix my error because edit source is no longer part of the section
Yes, I know I added the wrong citation markers. But now the page Ecclesiastes#Influence on Western literature doesn't include edit source, so I cannot go back and fix the mistake. Lalare (talk) 20:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Lalare, I've removed the empty ref tags inserted before the heading, that should fix it. Schazjmd (talk) 20:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- And I have added a missing "</ref>". TSventon (talk) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
January 8
Hudson Bay
What did I do wrong with the {{sfn}} at Hudson Bay? It won't link to the actual book listing. It's references 16 and 21. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 04:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather: It was just a typo. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching it. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 08:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
2025 in country music
At 2025 in country music, does anyone know why there are songs under "Top new album releases"? --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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