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== January 8 ==
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== January 7 ==
* ''']''' has been found to pose an increased risk of complications during childbirth, leading to the deaths of an additional 10 to 20 per thousand African babies during delivery according to a recent WHO study reported in the Lancet yesterday. See the WHO article here: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2006/pr30/en/index.html
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==== RD: Brian Matusz ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Brian Matusz
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
| nominator = Muboshgu <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
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| sign = &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 02:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
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*'''Support''' Not much on his personal life. But I think the article meets our customary standards. -] (]) 02:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I'm looking for those details, but not finding anything atm. &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 03:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


*'''Support''' Agreed that it meets our usual standards as-is. ] (]) 15:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*Not sure why my nom was the one deleted, but as per that one, '''support'''. Career is well-cited. ] (]) 17:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


====RD: Ayla Erduran====
I'm sorry if I haven't formatted this suggestion very well. I'm still finding my feet here. ] 11:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
: If you're still finding your feet, well, scroll up and read the guidelines. -- ] 13:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
| article = Ayla Erduran
::OK, is the above better? ] 13:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
::: Yes, thank you. I like this suggestion (will like it more if it's shorter and wikified), but it's up to the admins. Some admins won't post anything to the ITN unless it's earth-shattering news. Good luck. -- ] 15:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| updated = yes
| nominator = History6042
| creator = Albigator
| updaters = Adem, ForsythiaJo
| nom cmt = Turkish violinist who died on January 7.
| sign = ] '''(])''' 12:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' 1880 characters (299 words) "readable prose size" ] (]) 14:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' No CN notes nor anything that I found that was unreferenced, at least from reading through the article. ] (]) 14:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


====January 2025 Southern California wildfires ====
===], ]===
{{ITN candidate
| article = January 2025 Southern California wildfires
| blurb = Series of Wildfires in Southern California leaving thousands of people to evacuate, caused by a windstorm.
| ongoing = yes
| ITNR = no <!-- 'No' by default. Only put in 'yes' if the event is listed at WP:ITNR -->
| altblurb = Wildfires in South California leaves thousands of people with no choice, but to evacuate
| altblurb2 = Historic Wildfire in South California
| altblurb3 = ''']''' erupt in Southern California, leaving 2 people dead and forcing at least 80,000 people to evacuate.
| sources = https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/07/us/palisades-brush-fires-california
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| sign = ] (]) 12:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| image = 2025 Palisades Fire Seen From Palisades Drive.jpg
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*'''Strong oppose''' I wouldn’t even say the article is ready for main space. We also almost never post about wildfires. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 00:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
* The ''']''' and ''']''' begin. <!--Cuivienen's signature begins here-->—<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><font color="gray">]</font>]<font color=green>]</font>]<sup>]|]|]</font></sup></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> on ], ] ] at 00:56 ]</span>'''<!--Cuivienen's signature ends here-->
::I still strongly oppose. Wildfires routinely go over 30,000 acres (heck, we didn't even post about the 300k+-acre ] last year), yet we don't post about ''those''. Media is doomcasting the entire fire, and is highly exaggerating its impacts]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 18:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I had some difficulty coming up with good formatting for this news item. If someone else could better format it, please do so. <!--Cuivienen's signature begins here-->—<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><font color="gray">]</font>]<font color=green>]</font>]<sup>]|]|]</font></sup></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> on ], ] ] at 00:56 ]</span>'''<!--Cuivienen's signature ends here-->
*'''Oppose''' Article is in very rough shape. ] (]) 00:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
**IMO a non-event; seasons begin and end all the time. --0] 05:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong oppose''' - not significant enough in the world, and I'm saying that as someone from California. Bad article quality. ] (]) 00:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Changing to '''Wait'''. ] (]) 16:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There is an article that is in better shape than the one being nominated. ] ] (]) 01:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Even considering the second article, we'd not post a wildfire of this size unless it started significant destruction or lives lost. Its only getting attention because its close to LA. --] (]) 01:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I am going to stress that without any current major threat to life, the only reason this getting the size of coverage is dye to being close to LA, if wildfires if this Suze broke out anywhere else that wasn't near a major city, it would be in footnotes. This is an example of media bias we should try to avoid giving weight to. There may be a true major disaster if the fires get out of hand but it should be obvious that right now this is overly amplified by the media. ] (]) 14:07, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Obviously ITN operates a bit differently from the rest of Misplaced Pages, but I think it's best to just say that these sorts of things are significant if and only if reliable sources are calling them significant — regardless of any ] or location criteria. And, right now, I think reliable sources are saying that. ] (]) 17:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' I'm re-opening this as it's the top story and live in both the and and there seems to be much more to come. It seems absurd to prevent discussion of such a hot topic. Note that there are multiple fires and so we should consider ] to get the big picture. Coverage also keeps highlighting the ] as significant and so maybe that article should appear in the blurb as it's quite substantial and informative and so seems to have a good encyclopedic tone. ]🐉(]) 09:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' It's too early to tell, but I feel like this should only be posted if it comes out that the damage is unparalleled in LA history ''or'' if it hits something important like the ]. (I sincerely hope neither of those should happen.) Should also say that the blurbs definitely need fixing. ] (]) 10:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' I think it may be notable enough for a blurb, but it's too early to say for sure. ] (]) 11:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*Unsure if this is a better article target instead ], which covers other fires in the Los Angeles area. ] (]) 11:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Significant destruction of a large urban area. That there’s been no fatalities so far is extraordinary. ] (]) 13:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support Altblurb3''' as nominator, please let me know if you intend to or want me to modify it. ] (]) 13:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|31.44.227.152}} I don't think you can vote twice. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 13:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Wait, did I? I don't recall voting on this prior and I don't see my name anywhere. Could you in that case merge this to my previous comment or link to the diff? ] (]) 14:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Unless I'm mistaken, nominators can't vote on their own ITNC (correct me if I'm wrong). ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 14:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Ooh, I see what you meant. I meant as nominator of altblurb3. Not as nominator of the article. ] (]) 14:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ah. In that case, ignore my above comments. :) ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 14:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' Slight rewording and update of altblurb3 and including that two people died. ] (]) 18:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''', today is an extremely critical fire weather day for the area around this fire. This ''could'' be something worth posting if all the pieces fall into the right place, but we won't know until they do (or don't). 4 thousand acres burnt is routine, but what might not be is 4 thousand acres at 0% containment ''before'' a full extremely critical day (followed by another critical day). ] (]) 14:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::'''Strong oppose''' posting this ''right this second now''. Up to 5000 acres (nearly 3000 for the Palisades fire) but nothing seems out of the ordinary. Just a few months ago we had the ] at nearly 10,000 acres and that was seen as relatively uncommon, so 5000 acres across 2 seems routine at the moment. I also feel this is getting a lot of coverage for being near Los Angeles - again, I see that as routine and sensationalized in nature. ] (]) 18:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' not a significant destruction or lives lost. ] (]) 15:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' until more details emerge. I was about to oppose but it turns out that this is still a rapidly developing story – as of this writing, the fires are still ongoing and 0% contained – and while it does seem to be "routine" for now, this has the potential to become one of, if not the largest series of wildfires for this particular part of California. ] (]) 16:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Weak support''' Wildfires in California are common, but given the close proximity this fire is to LA (the second largest city in the U.S.) and how it's making global headlines, I am leaning to support this blurb. Article is also in good shape. --] (]) 16:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Massive news coverage of devastating fires with over a thousand structures destroyed and huge evacuations. Two confirmed deaths so far. Waiting for more confirmed deaths or further damage seems wrong to me. Opposers unconvincing. Altblurb 3 looks best. ] (]) 16:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Strong support''' One of the most historical events in Californian wildlife history, destroyed thousands of properties. Should absolutely be posted. The most famous event in the news right now. ] (]) 18:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


*'''Support''' Main story on multiple news outlets, large wildfire even for California standards. ] (]) 18:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ] ===
*'''Oppose''' - we haven't posted similar fires in other countries, such as ]. Also there's no indication about the death toll. ] (]) 18:34, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
* The ] has agreed to talk with ] about its ] policy if it suspends all Nuclear actions. ] 19:15 UTC 31 May 06
*:As of right now, 2 deaths confirmed with several injuries. ] (]) 18:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
**No semblance of an updated or bolded link here. --] 05:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Major news, major impacts, quality article to display. I'm unconvinced by OTHERSTUFF arguments about other fires or MINIMUMDEATH comments. &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 18:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
* ''']''', the worlds largest ] tracker supported by the Swedish ] has been raided by Swedish police, under the accusation of copyright infringements. Three of the party members are under police custody. ] 17:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
**I'm tempted to put this up but I don't know. --] 18:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
***Do it already. ;) Really, maybe I'm biased, but this is much more relevant to the entire world than some "students protest" --] 04:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
****I am now. --] 05:14, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
**** Actually, that "students protest" is "happenning on India" no more. See ]. - ] 06:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
**I support putting this up on the news page. It is a very high-profile event. --] 19:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
**Actually this is a quite important news item, since Pirate Bay is (was?) one of the largest bittorrent sites on the net, and also because of the very significant impact it has made on the community through it's previously very successful legal campaign. The fact that it is run by a (self-claimed) non-profit organisation (Piratbyrån - Piracy Bureau) that also functions as a lobby organisation for legalization of private file sharing also gives this news weight. The raid also goes against current precedential Swedish law and was instigated by a private (also non-profit, but funded by the music and movie industry) lobby organisation AGAINST private filesharing (Anti-piratbyrån - Anti-piracy bureu).
Btw, these are facts, not opinions. =) -- sorry for anonymousity but I don't have time to figure out my password right now. You've got my IP though.
]
:Not remotely worthy of inclusion among just 5 odd world headlines. This is a minor story to everyone bar the tech-savvy. It's inclusion here is merely indicitive of Misplaced Pages's systemic bias, and there being more tech-users here. ] <span style="color:green; font-size:larger"> &#09827;</span> ] 12:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, the one tech story we run in six months is indicative of our systemic bias. I suppose that means our bias towards soccer matches is unimaginable. I considered it better than any of the sports matches that have been nominated (and posted) recently. --] 14:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
::Here in Sweden, where the event actually happened, it's head newsline in most newspapers..
:::Not true. I looked and looked in my paper (Sydsvenskan, also found at sydsvenskan.se). The last two days they have printed two medium-sized articles in the B (Culture) part of the paper. No mention on the frontpage or the A (domestic and world news) part at all. I think we should be sane and don't put this item in ITN. It's just not relevant to most of the world. <span style=" font-family: Optima, sans-serif; border-bottom: 1px solid blue;">]</span> 13:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
* ''']''' (''pictured'') resigns as ], ] nominates Goldman Sachs CEO ] to succeed him. --] 7:50 AM, May 31, 2006 (EDT)
** A minorish cabinet post and nothing horribly unexpected. --] 18:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
* ''']''' is elected leader of the ] ] ], in a very close ]. -- (close elections, unexpected results, head lines of dutch papers; will work on Rutte Article) ] 18:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
* ''']''' earns a decisive victory in the Korean regional election. The main opposition ] wins 12 of 16 mayor/governor positions, including the mayorship of ], while ruling ] wins only 1.


===], ] === ==== RD: Bob Veale ====
{{ITN candidate
* Lebanese ''']''' threatens ] with Iranian rockets. --] 10:43, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
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==== RD: Peter Yarrow ====
{{ITN candidate
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| recent deaths = yes
| sources = <!-- Include one or more references from verifiable, reliable sources. -->
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*'''Not Ready''' for the ]. -] (]) 03:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Note:''' only two sentences with {cn} tags remaining, one of which could easily be commented out or removed. ] (]) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


===], ] === ==== RD: Jean-Marie Le Pen ====
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| article = Jean-Marie Le Pen<!-- Do not wikilink -->
*] wins the ''']''' of the ], the first of the cycling season's three ]. - ] 19:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
:* This is more recent than 6 of the 7 items on ITN right now. -- ] 06:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Not yet ready ''', the article is quite confusing and contains uncredited statements. ] (]) 12:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
]
*'''Support''': "Life and career" section needs to be shortened or split, otherwise support as he's a polarising figure that's defined French far-right politics. ] (]) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*Colombian presidential elections held today.--<font color="violet">]</font> 08:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
**Recent deaths are not posted per importance of the person, but for being of a sufficient quality to post. One could make the equally objective claim that he should not be posted as he was the biggest loser in the history of presidential run-offs, and French far-right politics could not be "defined" by him as his party grew after his daughter kicked him out. With due respect to the dearly departed, I don't think anyone ever suggested that ] transformed any aspect of life on planet Earth. ] (]) 17:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:* ] needs to be expanded by quite a bit first..... And, we should wait till we have the the official results before this shows up on the Main Page. --] 15:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - a couple of the sections need more references, I've just tagged where. After that good to go, I'm not particularly bothered about the length of the "Life and Career" section, that's the meat of the article and as a whole it's hardly overlong. I would oppose a blurb, just in case anyone is thinking of proposing one! - he has been influential, but not on the level we'd usually blurb for. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::It isn't that stubby after all... -- ] 03:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per above. Pre-emptively '''strongly oppose''' any suggestion of a blurb. ] (]) 16:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
]
*'''Not Ready''' for the ]. If the article can be brought up to scratch, I would give a weak support for a blurb. His influence on far right politics extended well beyond France. -] (]) 18:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:* ] ''']''' of ] garners more than 60% of the votes in the ''']''', winning a second consecutive term in office. (First in 100 years to get a second consecutive term, according to the article, but there is no citation.) -- ] 03:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
:* This is more recent than 6 of the 7 items on ITN right now. -- ] 06:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


:'''Support''' I see no problems with the article. Also I would support a blurb, I can't think of any one individual with more of an impact on French Politics in the modern day than him. ]] 19:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ] ===
*<s>'''Support''', no outstanding issues with the article.</s> ] (]) 19:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
]
*:There are still 9 citation needed tags and an unreferenced "Decorations" section. So no, there are still issues with the article. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*The ] ] side, the ] defeat the ] 19-12 in the ''']''' in ]. --]
*'''Support''' – Founding figure of the modern French far-right that now has widespread influence in mainstream French politics. ] (] · ]) – <small>(] <span style="color:#4dac8b;">♥</span>)</small> 17:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, anyone. This has been up for a while now. Big Sporting news in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
:* I like this, but the fairuse logo can't be used on the Main Page. -- ] 15:12, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
::Why hasn't this been added, yet? It is the provincial competition of three of the best teams in rugby union. The Heineken Cup was put up a week ago, why not the Southern Hemisphere equlivant???--<small>]<sub>]</sub>|<sup>]</sup></small> 08:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
:::It's my personal opinion that these sporting events don't really belong; I didn't support the first one, so I feel no obligation to put this one up for balance. As always, one of the other 900 or so admins may disagree. And I don't understand what "New Zealand rugby union side" means. --] 08:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Hmmm. It is not just a domestic competition (it is a competition that includes three nations; Australia, New Zealand and South Africa), so it is more notable than say just a domestic comp, for its wider audience. In saying that, the Heinken Cup spans England, Wales, Ireland, France, Scotland and Italy, and it is probably a much bigger 'event'. It is probably a safe bet that (as of now) the only rugby union events that will get put up would be the ], ], ] and the ] (as in, the winner annoncement/final). But I do think this game should have been mentioned, mainly because of its bizarre weather, something we may never see again, at least not for a long time. I don't know, anyway, lets work on that final page Hame. ] 13:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


:'''Support''' on significance, '''Neutral''' on quality. Three CNs. ] (]) 17:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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*An ''']''' on the island of ], ] kills over 1300 people.--] <small>( ] )</small> 07:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


==== John Mahama ====
*A ] ] investigation of the ''']''' shows that a group of ] committed a war crime by ]ing 24 unarmed Iraqi people, including women and children, in ], Iraq on ] ].
{{ITN candidate
:* Rather stubby. Seems that Misplaced Pages doesn't have much material on this topic to feature. Suggest posting at ] rather than ITN. --] 15:15, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = John Mahama<!-- Do not wikilink -->
| image =
HE John Dramani Mahama, President of the Republic of Ghana (9041896033).jpg<!-- Name of image only; do not link. Please crop the image before adding, if necessary. -->
| blurb = ''']''' (pictured) is sworn in as Ghana's President with ] is sworn in as the first female Vice-president of Ghana.<!-- Add your suggestion of the blurb; should be written in simple present tense. -->
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| sources = <!-- Include one or more references from verifiable, reliable sources. -->
| updated = <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
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| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
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| sign = ] (]) 11:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
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* '''Support''' per nom. A significant event in Ghana. --] (]) 11:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom ] (]) 12:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I've bolded target article and clarified who is pictured. ] (]) 12:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' The election is the ITNR and while it was nominated in December, it did not meet quality for posting. We don't post inaugurations as "makeup" for an ITNR being missed. --] (]) 12:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' If this was to have been posted, it should have been the election last month. ITN does not post inaugurations when there was a suitable target article, which is now stale. ] 13:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' pretty much per Masem and Black Kite. The election was the right time to post this. Sorry, but we cannot compensate it not being posted with the inauguration.--] (]) 15:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' since we didn't post the election ] (]) 17:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' significant, in the news and article is in good shape. ] (]) 17:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Article quality looks satisfactory and this is a significant event. Ideally we post elections, but since we are now double posting prime ministerial successions in Western countries, I'm having a hard time buying the rational in the opposing comments above. Sometimes the double standards around here become a bit too glaring. -] (]) 18:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
**The difference with prime minister resignations followed by the announcement of their successor months later is because there is a whole election aspect there. We have no idea who will replace Trudeau, for example. Once that election is done and the winner confirmed, we will post that, though not the day that they officially take office.<span id="Masem:1736275777154:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;] (]) 18:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
**Do you have a specific example of an inauguration that we posted to justify the claim for double standards? I remember to have recently opposed a ] where the rationale for posting was similar as here, that is, to post it because we hadn't posted the election result. Note that this was in the European Union, which is in the Western world, so it's not true that we have double standards for Western countries.--] (]) 21:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
**:I think it was clear that the election of the Von der Leyen Commission in November was posted because it was the election by the European Parliament (as a parliament can elect a PM) and not a presidential inauguration: the differences between the two events are enormous. ] (]) 23:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
**:*It wasn’t posted, but you’re right. While it was also a formalisation of the results from a previous election, it included another vote by the European Parliament. This inauguration is a pure ceremonial event without any uncertainty. In two weeks, Trump will be inaugurated as president, and that also involves some uncertainty because there are procedural votes. Anyway, my point is that I cannot support such ceremonial event when I oppose any event following an election that formalises the result.--] (]) 23:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
**:I am pretty sure we posted Barack Obama's inauguration as well as his election. -] (]) 01:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
**:*That was a mistake which we shouldn't repeat.--] (]) 10:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


:'''Oppose''' just because we didn't post the election doesn't mean we should break the norm and post the inauguration as a replacement. ]] 19:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ] ===
*'''Support''' Article looks good and highlights a major event for Ghana and the region. ] (]) 07:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*''']''', a well-known Australian ], is left for dead while descending from the summit of ], and found alive after spending a night exposed on the side of the mountain without oxygen supplies. --] 06:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:* A ] ? Interesting to read, but not really encyclopedic, and thus not a good candidate for ITN. Probably good for DYK, though. -- ] 15:31, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


==== (Closed) HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia (2024–present) ====
===], ]===
{{atop|Consensus to post will not develop. ]] 03:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}}
*''']''', the only surviving hostage-taker of the ], is sentenced to life in prison ''']''' (]) <em><strong>]</strong></em> 18:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
*At 3:35 PM MT, the Senate of The United States of America Voted in a 51-47 vote, to pass the bill S.2611 which adds changes to the ongoing immigration debate in the United States
| article = HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia (2024–present)
**No links, no bolded article, no updated article, a non-story (doesn't matter til the president signs), etc... please read the guidelines. --] 22:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| image = <!-- Name of image only; do not link. Please crop the image before adding, if necessary. -->
]
| blurb = ] in ] and partly in ]
*Scientists confirm the theory that the ''']''' virus originated among wild ] in ].
| recent deaths = no <!-- (yes/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Recent deaths" line -->
| ongoing = no <!-- (add/rem/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Ongoing" line -->
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| nom cmt = ] outbreak in Northeast Asia and partly in India (South Asia)<!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] (]) 12:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*'''Oppose''' This seems to be fairly routine. The explains: {{tq|As expected for this time of year, the Northern Hemisphere winter, there is a month-over-month increase of acute respiratory infections, including seasonal influenza, R.S.V. and human metapneumovirus}}. ]🐉(]) 08:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


:'''Oppose''' This virus has existed since 2001 and had routine outbreaks in other parts of the world and per above. ] (]) 11:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
* This year the prestigious ''']''' was awarded to ], the Prime Minister of Luxembourg. ] 18:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per above. ] (]) 11:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


:It has not caused a large problem yet other than increasing worries that it may. '''Oppose'''. {{User:ExclusiveEditor/Signature}} 14:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
* Former ] executives ''']''' and ''']''' are found criminally guilty for their role in the demise of the now-defunct energy-trading firm. ] 17:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC) (Why has nobody else put this up yet?)
*'''Strong oppose''' Every winter since COVID we see exaggerated stories about 'outbreaks' in China. There's no evidence that there's anything new or unusual. ] (]) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
{{abot}}


==== (Posted) 2025 Xizang earthquake ====
]
{{ITN candidate
* ] ] ''(pictured)'' calls for international intervention to quell ''']'''; ], ], ] and ] send in troops.--] 00:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC) --tweaked by ] 07:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = 2025 Xizang earthquake
**The update is miniscule. --] 03:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| blurb = A ] hits ]. located in the ] leaving 9 dead.
***Its the top item in Google News at the moment, some main page exposure should get interested parties motivated.--] 03:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = no
**** Don't think Misplaced Pages has enough on this to feature on the main page yet. Not sure if ] is the best page to be updated with these recent events, either. It's too early to tell if the recent violence will be a notable event in the history of this young country. The cause of the unrest, as far as I can tell, is the dismissal of many soldiers. Perhaps we need to update ] and try to incorporate a link to this page into the ITN snippet. (still thinking ....) -- ] 07:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| ongoing = no
**** Or someone with an account can start a new article, perhaps ], the leader of the rebels. . -- ] 07:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| ITNR = no
***** ] How about this ? " ] ] of ] calls for international intervention as fighting in ] between ''']''' continues to escalate. " But I have to say that a brand new article on this current conflict may be more appropriate. -- ] 08:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| altblurb = <!-- An alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
****** Yeah, we now have ]. :-) -- ] 14:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
| altblurb2 = <!-- A second alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
******* Yeah, we now have ], too. -- ] 15:09, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
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| nom cmt = <!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] (]) 03:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}


:*'''Temporary oppose on article quality''' - quite a short article. I understand there are minimal sources on it(rural area + happened a few hours ago + Chinese censorship stuff) but still.
* ] wins the fifth season of ] --nobody 07:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:] (]) 04:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
** Note: You posted that inane nonsense about the Eurovision song contest, it's only fair! --nobody
::Changing to '''Support'''; similar quality as Port Vila was when it was ITNed. ] (]) 05:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::* I might support this when the American Idol contest runs for a few more decades. The ] has so much more history, more international interests, it's hard to compare. -- ] 08:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' Two 7.1 earthquakes just happened - the one in Tibet appears to be an aftershock of another earthquake the same day in Nepal. 9 fatalities across just the Tibet one seems low for an earthquake to be posted, but further updates may increase that figure. ] (]) 04:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::** I agree Eurovision has a longer history but you have to agree American Idol is at least if not more --nobody 08:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
::USGS only shows one 7.1. ] (]) 04:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* You probably need to include google searches in ''many'' other European languages to "see the impact" of the Eurovision Song Contest in contemporary European culture. And, the country vs country flavour is not there in the Idol contest. American Idol seems like local news and lacks international relevance. -- ] 08:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I was going off of the Daily Guardian article. I haven't checked its reliability for Misplaced Pages though, but it states there were two 7.1 magnitude earthquakes at 6:35 IST on 7 January, one at 28.86 N 87.51 E in Tibet, and another northeast of ]. These might be the same but they're reported as two separate tremors. ] (]) 04:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::** The Eurovision Song Contest is just as "local" as American Idol. Actually if you click on the Regions tab of Google Trends you will see American Idol has some global reach especially in Asia. Honestly neither the Eurovision Song Contest nor American Idol should be posted on ITN. International news should be defined as "International" and not as "Non-Americancentric" --nobody 09:06, 25 May UTC
::::The death toll has also risen to 36. I don't know the time in China but by the time we get the article to ITN quality the true death toll will be more clear. Over 7000 rescue personnel tells me the final total might go into the low triple digits, but I'm not going to ] this one way or the other for now. ] (]) 04:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::* Entertainment news items are usually weak ITN candidates. However, I do look forward to seeing the winner of the ] at the ] on ITN on another slow news day. :-) -- ] 09:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' — Significant casualties, article has been expanded enough and still developing ''''']''''' (]) 05:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
**IMO, usually, a winner of a competition does not involve a major article update. So Taylor won - swap a few bits and the article is updated. This is very much a case where anyone who cares already knows, therefore it's not exactly news. (for the record, I opposed putting EuroVision up too; we're having way too many "X won Y non-political competition" updates lately, probably because they're cheap, a quick article update and voila. It's also not like it was a shocker or anything. :P though it WAS neat to see that Lordi won, heh.) --] 14:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' – Rest in peace to the people who died in the strong earthquake. Too many casualties. ] <small>]</small> 06:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - 53 dead now. ] (]) 06:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Significant due to deaths. Article looks good to post. ] (]) 06:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' ] (]) 07:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== January 6 ==
===], ]===
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]
{{Portal:Current events/2025 January 6}}
*] ] begins a tour of the ] in ] by attacking a proposed border wall. This comes amid the U.S. Senate passing a ''']'''. .
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====RD: Charles M. Roessel====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Charles M. Roessel
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = History6042
| creator = Missvain
| updaters = Normantas Bataitis
| nom cmt = Navajo photographer, journalist and academic administrator.
| sign = ] '''(])''' 01:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
====RD: John S. Hunkin====
{{ITN candidate
| article = John S. Hunkin
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Tsc9i8
| creator = Tsc9i8
| updaters =
| nom cmt = Former chief executive of the ]
| sign = ] (]) 17:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
====Indonesia BRICS ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = BRICS
| blurb = ] is officially made a full member state of ''']'''
| recent deaths = no <!-- (yes/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Recent deaths" line -->
| ongoing = no <!-- (add/rem/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Ongoing" line -->
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| nominator = Sportsnut24<!-- Do NOT change this -->
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| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Growing int'l supranational body. Pretty important.<!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] (]) 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)<!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}


**No updated article. --] 02:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC) :'''Not yet ready''' The article has multiple CN tags. --] (]) 00:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' – Could you please provide reliable sources indicating that Indonesia's admission into BRICS is "pretty important"? ] (] · ]) – <small>(] <span style="color:#4dac8b;">♥</span>)</small> 00:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It is now. Its even better too since the U.S. Senate just passed the bill today and Fox finally made a comment about immigration in Salt Lake City. ] 22:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
::4th largest economy in the world.] (]) 00:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Indonesia is only the 16th largest nation worldwide by nominal GDP. By population, however, it is 4th worldwide. ] (]) 00:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::Here are some article about this news. Seems like ] is now a full member state of ]. --] (]) 02:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::BRICS is a large supranational body. Indonesia joining BRICS is comparable in notability to a country joining the EU. --] (]) 05:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::The countries of the EU are far more integrated with each other than the countries of BRICS. I would not say they're comparable at all. The EU is like the US, BRICS is more like NAFTA. --]] 08:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::BRICS is not even like NAFTA, it's a talking shop with perhaps some joint financial institutions. It's probably more similar to the examples Gotitbro mentions below. ] (]) 09:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support''' Significant development for an interational body which has received increasing news coverage in recent years. While we should be assessing this item on its own merits if comaprisions are to be made (beyond the EU etc.) would we post if a new member became a part of the ], ], ] etc. For me the answer is yes as expansion among large interational organizations is not frequent and is always major news (also highlighted by the fact that our country articles highlight these organizations in their leads). ] (]) 08:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::And the article appears fine enough for ITN to me. ] (]) 08:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::There's 100+ such organisations and I'm not convinced that changes are always significant. For example, see ]. Notice that this is a full and well-developed article about that addition but that we haven't posted it. The lack of an article for this Indonesia matter seems telling. ]🐉(]) 09:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::ASEAN (a major economic block) and Timor Leste is one I would support posting when the accession happens . 100+ such organisations may exist but do any of them receive the same coverage as this one?, especially its recent expansion has been under much dicussion, see for instance . Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates all joined last year, and that oppurtunity to post was apparently missed twice: ] and ] with similar arguments based on the organization's politics rather than the significant news coverage of its expansion.
:::As for the last point, ITN does not demand the creation of separate articles and an absence of it may point towards a lack of enwiki editors from Indonedia or those interested in the subject rather than a lack of notability. ] (]) 16:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Needs work''' The update seems perfunctory with no specific details of the politics and impact of this addition. And, it seems that there's a in this latest wave: Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Thailand, Uganda, Uzbekistan. The different status of partner and full member seems opaque as the article says, "It is unclear whether the countries in this tier have received official membership invitations". ]🐉(]) 08:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Not sure whether that is an RS, but the article makes it apparent these 'partners' are akin to ]s. Indonesia is the only latest member, as from AP makes clear "Indonesia’s candidacy was endorsed by BRICS leaders in August 2023, according to the foreign ministry of Brazil, which holds the group’s presidency for 2025. However, the world's fourth most populous nation opted to formally join the bloc only after the formation of its newly elected government last year." Further "Last year, the alliance expanded to embrace Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia and the United Arab Emirates. Saudi Arabia has been invited to join but has not yet done so. ... Turkey, Azerbaijan and Malaysia have formally applied to become members and a few others have expressed interest." ] (]) 17:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*::The details seem vague because, as the article explains, "''there is currently no formal application process to join BRICS''". Per , "''BRICS is an informal grouping, it has no founding treaty, secretariat supporting it or headquarters''". Its effectiveness will thus depend on the quality of the rotating presidency. As it adds more minor countries, this will be increasingly volatile. ]🐉(]) 18:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


:'''Strong Support''' on notability. Infer to others on quality of the article. {{User:ExclusiveEditor/Signature}} 14:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
And I think it would be nice to have it on the front page since our current illegal immigration in the United States article could use some editing. By having it on the front it would draw attention to other editors. I have already added a sizable paragraph today. ] 23:00, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' on notability, a major nation joining a major economic sphere. I find it funny that people are saying the absolutely huge and generally very high-quality BRICS article having a few CN tags makes this not ITN-worthy. --] (]) 21:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose on notability''' BRICS is nothing like ASEAN, EU, NATO, AU or CARICOM. It's China's and Russia's little project to try and score some political allies and try to emulate successful supranational organisations but it has very little relevance politically or economically, mainly due to the fact China, Russia, India and Brazil are not on equal footing in economics nor political clout, and they often have wildly conflicting interests, never mind the smaller members who are only there to make up the numbers. ] (]) 23:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*:You know you could say the same of Germany/France and the EU, or the US and NATO right ... ] (]) 00:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*::You could not, both of those have strong systems of mutual obligation. ] (]) 05:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
* '''Support''' per Gotitbro. An international organization does not need to be as developed as the EU, CARICOM, or ASEAN for membership to be newsworthy. The bar does not need to be that high, and countries making multilateral groupings is notable international diplomacy in its own right. ] (]) 15:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


====(Posted) Resignation of Justin Trudeau ====
*President Fox's visit to Salt Lake City isn't really all that significant in the whole encyclopedia topic of ], though it's certainly an interesting item for a newspaper to cover. On this topic I would consider waiting for a somewhat more substantive development, like when a law is actually passed, which shouldn't be too far off.--] 23:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
| article = Resignation of Justin Trudeau
| image = Prime Minister Trudeau's message on Christmas 2023 (0m29s) (cropped).jpg
| blurb = ] ''(pictured)'' announces his ''']''' as the ] after serving in the role for nine years.
| recent deaths = no <!-- (yes/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Recent deaths" line -->
| ongoing = no <!-- (add/rem/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Ongoing" line -->
| ITNR = no <!-- 'No' by default. Only put in 'yes' if the event is listed at WP:ITNR -->
| altblurb2 = ] ''(pictured)'' ''']''' as ].
| sources =
| updated = <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
| nominator = Nice4What <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = <!-- Editor who created the article, if relevant -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = <!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = Major development in Canadian politics, leader for nine years. ] (] · ]) – <small>(] <span style="color:#4dac8b;">♥</span>)</small> 16:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
:::'''NOTE''' The linked page is currently at AfD and cannot be posted until that is resolved. The discussion should probably be suspended or closed pending the outcome of the AfD. -] (]) 21:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' yeah basically what OP said ] (]) 16:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' We generally post the transition. He is still the PM for now. -] (]) 16:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:*'''Comment''' Can you point to a case where it was decided to wait until an official transition happens? ] 19:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - format should be ALT2, per in 2022. Trudeau isn't resigning yet, only announcing his intention to do so once a successor is chosen. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It will take a few months for his replacement to be picked and will remain until then, so give that length of time this would be reasonable to post, though I have not had a chance yet to look at the article for quality. ] (]) 16:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Needs expansion''' - the news of the resignation is just one line in the article so far, and there are no reactions. Suggest a bit of expansion there. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:* '''Support ALT2 on notability''' per Amakuru. Head of government announces intention to resign.<br>] (]) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:*Please, let's not encourage the addition of reactions, particularly if it is just commentary and not actual statements of intent. Reaction sections artificially inflate most news articles and are just bad content.<span id="Masem:1736180927713:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;] (]) 16:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
*'''Wait''' until successor is elected. ] (]) 16:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


*'''Oppose on quality''' only one line in the target about the resignation. We posted Biden not seeking re-election so I don't see why we shouldn't post Trudeau's resignation. ] (]) 16:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ]===
* The ''']''', the third largest ] in the world, is opened. -- ] 10:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


:'''Wait''' Obviously a significant story that a long-term head of government resigns like this, but will need the article to be expanded further before it's ready to post. ] (]) 16:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*In the ''']''', ] wins the final against the ] and thus become the first hockey team to win at both the ] and the World Championships in the same year. // Please, if this goes up on the MP, check my grammar. Thnx. ] 20:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Weak Support''' - very notable, large worldwide influence, but article quality not amazing.
** I suggest you change the rugby entry with this one. --''']]''' 18:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:] (]) 17:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
***Godd idea; done.--] 20:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. We posted the last four British PMs' announcements of intent to resign, (Truss , Johnson , May , Cameron ) even though their system allows for leaderships to happen within days and/or weeks. In Canada, Trudeau will remain PM until a the party membership elects a new leader, which will take at least a couple months. The news is the announcement that is itself the culmination of a month long political crisis in the country. Both articles seem largely fine, with a paragraph about the resignation itself and sourced. Reactions will come, but the news is the resignation not reactions. ---- ] - <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 17:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
****I don't know if it can be changed, but there is ''no'' way this deserves to be on the main page. Said World Championships do not involve any of the best players, as they're all in the ]. I love sports, especially hockey, but I could probably think of at least 20 current sports events that are of more international interest than this (anything about the World Cup, any of the recent meaningful hockey games, Barbaro, Rosicky's reported move, Bonds passing Ruth, even the Northwestern hazing scandal, pretty much ''anything''). Please do some research before putting these things on the main page. '''<font color="82022C">]</font> <font color="FEC900">] / ]</font>''' 04:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
*:To add to this, ALT2 should be used, since it is an intention to resign, not the actual resignation. -- ] - <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 17:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
***** I disagree. While many of the world's best hockey players are indeed in the NHL playoffs, this annual IIHF event is apparently a much bigger thing in Europe than in North America. This is a valid ITN item with more than enough international interest. ] is a possible ITN candidate (esp. considering how the ankle was broken), but ]'s move is not big enough a news item. Northwestern hazing ? (What ?) seems like local news and not even on ]. Bonds ? I'd suggest waiting till he passes Hank Aaron. MLB did nothing official, neither should ITN. --] 07:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
*:Given that there appears to be a growing consensus in support of posting this, and apparently this was done with more recent UK PMs, are we now going to routinely double post changes in administration? i.e. An announced resignation or intent to resign, and then the successor? -] (]) 17:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*::In this sort of circumstance, when the announcement and the change of office are significantly separate from each other in time, certainly. This is different from the installation of a new US president, which follows automatically in January after the November election, because there are two separate pieces of newsworthy content - the decision of Trudeau to resign, and the choice of his successor - which at this point we don't know. It would be a bit bizarre to stay silent on something that's unexpected front-page news across the globe, just because of the technicality that we know we're going to be back to post another update in a few weeks' time... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 17:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*::The key bit in this case and the UK PMs cases is not the resignation in of it self, but doing so amidst an ongoing political crisis of some sort. I imagine that the precedent being set would not be for all resignation announcements of ITNR political officeholders, since some may be fairly "normal" (e.g. resigning for health reasons totally unconnected to any political scandal) though I would be in support of that. -- ] - <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 22:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support ALT2''' pretty much what the OP said. I would prefer the ALT2 blurb as it is worded a bit closer to the truth than the main blurb. '']'' 17:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


:'''Mostly Support''' Pretty big news but needs expansion but I doubt that will take very long. ] (]) 17:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*Thoroughbred racehorse ''']''' suffers a career-ending injury in the ] at ] in his quest to become the 13th winner of the ]. ] 00:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. --] (]) 17:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
**IMO we are getting way too many sports stories, and this, on the whole, isn't all that notable. For over 20 years, this has been the result of every Triple Crown race - a failure. (Though not as spectacular and devastating as Barbaro's). If he had won the Triple Crown, then that would go up in a heartbeat. --] 21:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - the "Minority government" section and the material I've just moved up to the last paragraph of the "Pending resignation" section need citations. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 17:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Per original nomination comment, specifically ALT2 for accuracy. - ] (] &#124; ]) 17:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Weak Oppose for now''' we generally post the actual resignation and the succession of the new Prime Minister, not the announcement of an intention to resign at some unspecified point in the future. I'm not necessarily opposed to setting a new precedent, but normally we would wait. ] (]) 17:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per above, pref. ALT2 ] (]) 18:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' This is a big development for Canada and North America as a whole. ] (]) 19:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' He literally could not hold power in office for much longer. He would be forced to step down in a few months, he just chose to do it right now. Also he will still remain in office for the duration of his tenure. Not that exciting, not that important. From canada's laws, this is was going to happen. ] (]) 18:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Not to mention his "resignation" speech was that he was stepping down soon, not officially quitting. So the media is just playing it up for no reason and wikipedians fall for it. ] (]) 18:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't see your point. The announcement of resignation (not in quotes, since he did actually state that he intended to resign) is major news, regardless of whether it happens now, or in a few months time. ] (])<sup><span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span></sup> 19:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Are you seriously trying to argue that a longtime leader of a major nation stepping down is not major news because it was “going to happen anyways?” ] ] <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(])</sup></small></span> 23:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Completely disagree with {{u|SimpleSubCubicGraph}} above. The opposite is true: the end of Trudeau is the exciting story which is ITN; the appointment of the temporary LPC replacement in a couple months after the LPC election is the formality which is relatively less important. To the point of {{u|Ad Orientem}}, although this will effectively result in "a double post" when Canada's new prime minister is inaugurated (probably after an LPC leader election), this is justified in the circumstances because each event is independently ITN and notable. Trudeau's resignation marks "the end of an era" of 10 years of LPC rule with him at the helm. He, Trudeau the individual, has been at the heart of a highly publicized dispute with the American President. It is evident to me that there is a high level of international buzz about the "end of Trudeau", which might not be present anymore when we find out who the new Liberal is that will temporarily replace him for a few months prior to the Fall election. I therefore support posting now. ]]] ] 18:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:@] it doesnt really matter, Canada will become the 51st state and we dont cover governors resigning. ] (]) 18:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*::@]: I'm not sure if you're aware, but the word ''will'' refers to something that happens in the future, not the current situation... ] (])<sup><span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span></sup> 19:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::I have no strong opinions on whether we should be double posting successions of this sort. There are some solid arguments on both sides. But I strongly believe we must be consistent. This can't just be for the UK and Canada. When the PM of South Ruritania announces their resignation with a multi-week wait for their successor to be names, that needs to get the same treatment. -] (]) 21:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::@] the eurocentrism here is saddening ] (]) 21:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::::I agree. Systemic bias has long been a serious problem on the project. -] (]) 21:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::::] is not in ]. ] (]) 23:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::::It's still Eurocentricism though. -- ]] 06:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::::::I find Manitoba and the territories to still have their own things going in 2025 and BC to be more of an Asian outpost, but yeah, Trudeau's province has a Paris, London, Brussels, Athens ''and'' Zurich in it. ] (]) 14:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::Assuming all other requirements are met, I would support such a resignation for any political officeholder to which ITNR applies. -- ] - <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 22:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*::You seem obviously bias towards Trump's expansionism ] (]) 00:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::@] I'm perturbed how nobody seemed to raise note of the {{tq|Canada will become the 51st state and we dont cover governors resigning}} comment. They tried to get ] deleted recently as well; between that and other generally poor behavior on ITN/C, wondering if a tempban from projectspace is in order. ] ] <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(])</sup></small></span> 08:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::Yeah that might be a good idea. Definitely seems non-neutral. ] (]) 12:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per FlipFlopped and others. It's in the news now. ] (]) 18:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


'''Weak support''' mostly because he's been prime minister of a G7 country for a decade now, kinda like Merkel. Would like to point out though that if consensus is to post about future important resignations, ] should be updated accordingly—in part so we can actually define what an "important resignation" actually is. ] (]) 18:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
]
*'''Oppose'''. No reason not to wait until the actual leadership change occurs. Yes, it is news now. It will also most certainly be news when the official transfer of power occurs. ] (]) 18:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*''']''' is taking place. (it's tomorrow but I am putting it here just in case.) --''']]''' 09:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Well, one reason—this might take something like three months based on the prorogation, and in all likelihood will receive consistently high coverage during all that time. It would be odd to only bring up Trudeau's resignation on ITN months after it actually happened, and months after it actually was news. Hence why, as mentioned above, similar blurbs have been posted before for UK prime ministers. ] (]) 19:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
**When it starts, I think it should go up. (yes, I've learned my lesson from the previous independence movement, or was it free association, or .. I don't remember. Niue?) This would result in a country ceasing to exist, so a LOT of maps will need to be redrawn. :) --] 16:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Alt II Per Patar knight and Amakuru above. <small> ] (]) (it/she) </small> 19:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
** - they have decided to become independent. This is most certainly newsworthy!! --] 23.38, 21 May 22.38 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Major news. ''']''' (]) 19:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support Alt2''' per Patar knight and Amakuru. ] (]) 19:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per our precedent with UK prime ministers. ] (]) 20:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support Altblurb 2''' Very important to Canadian and to an extent international politics. Article is rapidly expanding and should be sufficient by the time any admin sees this. I'm also fine with the original blurb, but I like Alt2 more. --] (]) 20:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' on notability, with no comment on article quality (haven't checked yet). I think I prefer Alt2 because Trudeau's tenure spans longer than 9 years, making the more generalized language preferable in this instance. ] ] 21:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Important to note that the article is up for deletion and the consensus is YES to not keep the article, so I think it should not be posted. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
*'''Support''', though the target article should be changed to ] pending the outcome of the main resignation article's AfD. ] (]) 21:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''', bolded Trudeau, until the resignation AfD is closed. ]] 22:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
'''pull''' he is not head of state to be ITNR and there is not new PM even. the election is a while way away. We should post the confirmation that trump was officially elected POTUS today.] (]) 22:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:Isn't that contradictory ]? And I thought we'd already ITNed the result of the US election. ] (]) 22:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:This is not being proposed as an ITNR item, and even in that case, the criteria for politicians at ITNR is {{tq|holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government,}}, which for Canada, is the PM. The resignation itself is news. You are free to nominate the electoral vote count, but given that is ] routine that simply follows the November result, it will almost certainly not be posted. -- ] - <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 22:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:Nobody said anything about ITNR. ] (]) 23:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - shouldn't "Prime Minister of Canada" be capitalized as per ]? ] (]) ] 02:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Bring it up on ]. ] (]) 11:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Pull''' - he hasn't resigned, he announced his intention to resign. We should only post his successor. -- ]] 04:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''pull''' per Rockstone. Trudeu has not resigned and we must await the appointment of his successor. The precedent with British prime ministers is a mistake. ] (]) 11:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::Can you really call it a mere mistake when, as per Patar knight above, it's been consciously done four times already? It seems more like there's a new consensus now where certain types of resignation announcements ''can'' go on ITN. ] (]) 13:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== January 5 ==
===], ]===
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*China finishes building the ''']'''. (More info here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-05/13/content_4540727.htm ) --] 00:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
{{Portal:Current events/2025 January 5}}
*''']''' ties Babe Ruth's 714-home run record amid rumours of steroid use.] 03:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
{{cob}}
**Being tied for second place does not really make one ITN-worthy. --] 23:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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***Uh.. First off it's on the front page of the NYTimes. Secondly the Home Run Record in Baseball is the most famous record in all of US Sports. With Babe Ruth being the most legendary baseball player in history. It is an accomplished feat. Maybe in retrospect it's not as important as who won the Eurovision song contest... I look foward to seeing who won American Idol on ITN -- nobody 09:21, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
==== RD: Al MacNeil ====
****That's nice? When we're the New York Times, then maybe we will care what they have on their front page. And perhaps you did not notice that he didn't break any record? He's tied for second place. Not tied for first place, not breaking first place. Calm down. --] 00:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
| article = Al MacNeil
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Kline
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Former NHL player and ]-winning coach. Article is in okay shape minus one CN tag.
| sign = ] • ] • ] 16:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
}}


==== RD: Mike Rinder ====
*''']''' happened today and will be a major news story due to other recent coal mining disasters in the United States. ] ] 15:19, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
| article = Mike Rinder
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Ad Orientem <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Former spokesman for ], and later outspoken critic of the church. Article is in surprisingly good shape with just one CN tag.
| sign = -] (]) 00:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
* '''Comment''': I fixed the citation-needed tag by providing a source. I also checked all the citations and added an archived version where needed. <span style="text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 1em">]</span> 02:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


==== 82nd Golden Globe Awards ====
* ''']''' defeat ''']''' to win the ''']'''. ] 15:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
| article = 82nd Golden Globe Awards <!-- Do not wikilink -->
| image = Fernanda Torres-68482.jpg <!-- Name of image only; do not link. Please crop the image before adding, if necessary. -->
| blurb = At the ''']''', ] ''(pictured)'' becomes the first Brazilian actress to win the award for ].<!-- Add your suggestion of the blurb; should be written in simple present tense. -->
| recent deaths = no <!-- (yes/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Recent deaths" line -->
| ongoing = no <!-- (add/rem/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Ongoing" line -->
| ITNR = no <!-- 'No' by default. Only put in 'yes' if the event is listed at WP:ITNR -->
| altblurb = <!-- An alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| altblurb2 = <!-- A second alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| sources = <!-- Include one or more references from verifiable, reliable sources. -->
| updated = <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
| nominator = ArionStar <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = <!-- Editor who created the article, if relevant -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Unusual victory. Brazil is at the top. <!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] (]) 16:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*'''Oppose''' Golden Globes are not an ITNR)(I know it wasn't nominated as such) but if we are going to post any winners from these they should match the categories that we use for Oscars and Emmys, which are generally unremarkable this year. Fine tuning which specific category to feature so to highlight a first is not good use of ITN (what about Demi Moore's first major award, for example?) ] (]) 16:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:A Brazilian actress winning a major American production award is a remarkable event. Theoretically she had not chance against ], ] and ]. ] (]) 18:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''', wasn't ] the first Japanese to win the same category but for television at the same event? Being Brazilian doesn't make it extraordinary. ]&nbsp;]<sup>]</sup> 18:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' It is very difficult to imagine this kind of news getting widespread coverage as is required by ]. ] (]) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Was considering nominating Golden Globes myself, but the issue, in my opinion, is that it lacks "main" categories like the Best Picture and Best Actor/Actress to include in the blurb without it favoring a particular genre/format. ] (]) 19:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Weak oppose''' on significance; these awards are much less influential than the Oscars, serving mostly as a hint of what might win those bigger prizes. We already have six different sets of film awards on ITNR and I don't think we need more, though I can see an argument that the Golden Globes have similar influence to BAFTAs. '''Oppose''' on quality - the article is a long series of tables with minimal prose and no reactions. '''Strong oppose''' the blurb as written, which focusses on the nationality of a single category winner. ] ] 21:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


==== RD: Joseph Bendounga====
* The ] of ] votes in ''']''' while leaving the ministries of Defense, National Security and the Interior in temporary hands. <!--Cuivienen's signature begins here-->—'''<font color=DAA520>]</font><font color=green>]</font><font color=6495ED>]</font><sup><font color=F4A460>]</font>|<font color=4682B4>]</font></sup>'''<span style="font-size:85%;">, ], ] ] @ 16:29 ]</span>'''<!--Cuivienen's signature ends here-->
{{ITN candidate
** posted ] 21:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Joseph Bendounga
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = Yes
| nominator = Faldi00
| creator =
| updaters =
| nom cmt = Central African lawyer and politician, known for his eternal opposition to every presidential administration
| sign = ] (]) 06:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
}}


===], ]=== ==== (Posted) RD: The Vivienne====
{{ITN candidate
The ] is officially opened. (I'm not sure whether it's quite happened yet or not, but it's a pretty major event, considering it cost 20-50 billion dollars US and took 13 years to build) ] 09:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = The Vivienne
:Thgough the principal part of the dam should be finished ''about'' today according to a press release from a couple of weeks ago, I don't see any signs of an "official opening" (there's almost nothing about it on google news). It seems that may come in 2009, if the 2003 event wasn't itself considered the official opening. Also, the article has an unfortunate Original Research tag.--] 10:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
:Look here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-05/13/content_4540727.htm --] 00:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
| sources =
| updated = Yes
| nominator = Tayce Widdrington
| creator = Another Believer
| updaters = Brunnaiz, Orangesclub, Is it Juan?
| nom cmt =
| sign = ] (]) 19:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
}}


:'''Soft oppose'''. Prose looks to be well-cited, but discography and filmography need more refs. ] (]) 19:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
]
<s>*'''Oppose''' for now until the discography and filmography tables have more refs.</s> ] (]) 21:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC) - changed to support, everything looks referenced now. ] (]) 09:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*The ] defeat the ] 16-14 at the ] in Wellington to qualify for the ] grand final. --<small>]<sub>]</sub>|<sup>]</sup></small> 12:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as references for the discography and filmography tables have been filled out. '''] <span style="color:#f7630c">]</span>''' 08:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
**Note:May or may not be necessary/appropriate because currently on the main page of wikinews. --<small>]<sub>]</sub>|<sup>]</sup></small> 12:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''', discography and filmography citation issues appear to have been resolved. ] (]) 17:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Should wait until after the final. I don't think semis will get a mention. ] 13:41, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Now well cited, article appears to be in good shape. ''']''' ''(] &#124; ])'' 19:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*Iranian expatriates reveal that ‘National Uniform Law’ authorized by Iranian parliament includes clause obligating Iranian Jews to wear yellow ribbon; Christians, other minority members to wear colored ribbons as well. ()
*'''Posted to RD'''. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 21:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:See also: ] 17:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
**No updated article. --] 18:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


===], ]=== ==== RD: S. A. Khaleque====
{{ITN candidate
It might be a good idea to change the photo of Prodi with one of human genome, as it is the top news at the moment. --''']]''' 21:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = S. A. Khaleque
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = Yes
| nominator = History6042
| creator = Vinegarymass911
| updaters = Dominus Moravian
| nom cmt = Bangladesh Nationalist Party politician
| sign = ] '''(])''' 14:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Oppose''' on article quality, article consists pretty much only of a summary of his political career. ] (]) 00:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' The article is a stub. Ping me when the situation improves. '''<span style="background:#0057b7">]</span><span style="background:#ffd700">]</span>''' 05:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


==== RD: Costas Simitis ====
]
{{ITN candidate
* Over 150 people have been killed during the ''']''' that has ensued between ]s and ] gang members in ]. ]]] 03:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Costas Simitis
:* This is an update of a recommended ] event. ]]] 03:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
::*The suggested article is an undeveloped fork from the article that is currently bold linked on the main page.--] 03:05, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
| sources =
:::* Yes, I didn't realize that it was already posted (I guess I was expecting it to be higher). Nevertheless, I moved the information from the other article to ] because it allows for the information to be more centered on the event. Leaving the event on the ] article didn't really leave room to discuss the role of the police in the situation and the criticism they have been receiving as the entire article is devoted to the gang. ]]] 03:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
| updated =
| nominator = Pharaoh of the Wizards <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator =
| updaters =
| nom cmt = Former Greek Prime Minister
| sign =] (]) 09:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Oppose''' 3 cn tags, 3 orange tags and a yellow tag. This article is a long, ''long'' way from being posted ''']''' (]) 11:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Strong Support''' Article is very high quality compared to most other RD candidates, definitely important enough as well. --] (]) 04:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I wouldn't consider the article in "high quality" as there's unreferenced paragraphs throughout the article. ] (]) 04:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Article needs ref work. --] (]) 04:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Closed) Congestion pricing ====
* ] More than half a million people around southeastern ] are evacuated as ''']''', the first ] in ] since ], makes ] near ], ] after causing 41 deaths and $1.9 million in damages in the ]. -- ] 01:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC).
{{Atop|Consensus will not develop to post. ]] 09:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)}}
{{ITN candidate
| article = Congestion pricing in New York City
| image = <!-- Name of image only; do not link. Please crop the image before adding, if necessary. -->
| blurb = New York City becomes the first non-Eurasian city ''']''' in the ]
| recent deaths = no
| ongoing = no
| ITNR = no
| altblurb = New York City becomes the first non-Eurasian city ''']''' in the ]
| altblurb2 =
| sources =
| updated =
| nominator = Sagittarian Milky Way <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = <!-- Editor who created the article, if relevant -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Delayed decades despite gridlock slowing ambulances+almost EU strength mass transit even to outer burbs, many lawsuits, trial court drama till late Fri afternoon (basically suburb ppl lawyers going ''irreparable harm from day 1! $15+toll!''), emergency appeal lost half day before the $9 "carmageddon" (0:00 local 05:00 UTC). $12 2028 $15 2031 license plate cameras @ all 25+ car entries to the island's southest 5mi/8km ed: 100+ incl. coast.
| sign = ] (]) 03:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
* '''Oppose''' Extremely limited scope, and effectively the same as toll roads with flex pricing that are used across the US. --] (]) 03:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Over 700,000 vehicles enter the Manhattan CBD daily (many from the state that sued (NJ), whole island 9XX,XXX). 3.1mil ppl on island in the middle of weekdays 680,000 Midtown alone so millions in the zone+up to 24mil in the CSA affected by the new revenue. Since 2010 mean driving speed in the CBD dropped 23% to just 7.1 mph. ] (]) 04:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*::And? While NYC is big, it is not that big as to demand special consideration for something like this. ] (]) 04:56, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' good faith nom. It's basically a local/regional news story dealing with traffic congestion. Yeah, I see why it's a big deal to people in New York. But if this was being implemented in New Delhi, I doubt it would get much notice here. And frankly it probably shouldn't. -] (]) 04:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Masem and Ad Orientem. Not of worldwide significance ''']''' (]) 08:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' "City introduces congestion charge". This is news? London (and a number of other cities) already beat them to that. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.5em 0.5em 0.6em;"> ''']''' (])</span> 08:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' NYC is not even the first in North America. Mexico City introduced a system of restrictions and fines in 1989 – see ]. ]🐉(]) 09:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
{{abot}}


==== (Closed) Untitled Minecraft spiritual successor ====
===], ]===
{{atop|Consensus will not develop to post. Closing early per ] --]] 06:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC) {{NAC}} }}
*(Only a small update, may want to wait pending a more major one). A lone gunman ''']''' at the Turkish Council of State, the highest court of ], killing one judge and wounding four others. ] | ] 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
*] win the 2006 ''']''' in a 2-1 win over ] -- ] 20:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Untitled Minecraft spiritual successor
| image =
| blurb = ] announced that he will be making a spiritual successor to the original game, ].
| recent deaths = no
| ongoing = no
| ITNR = no
| altblurb =
| altblurb2 =
| sources =
| updated =
| nominator = Bakhos2010
| creator = BarntToust
| updaters =
| nom cmt = I'm not sure if the blurb is good, but you can create an alternative blurb if you want.
| sign = ] <small>]</small> 04:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Oppose''' just an announcement, and we typically never post news about video games except when they win awards. ''''']·]·]''''' 04:21, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Tube of Light. --] (]) 04:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' good faith nom per above. And honestly, it's borderline trivial compared to most of what gets nominated here and not posted. -] (]) 04:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Absolutely promotional, we do not feature any type of product announcement. --] (]) 04:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Tube of Light and Masem. Does not meet ] ''']''' (]) 04:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


:'''Oppose''' good-faith nomination per ]. --] (]) 05:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ]===
:'''Strong oppose''' Minecraft 2 is one of very few non-award gaming events I would support a blurb on. Problem is, Notch can't make it ever since he sold the rights of the game to Microsoft. I might support it if it becomes the bestselling game of all time, but I don't know how likely it is for that to happen. ] (]) 05:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*Dutch Member of Parliament ''']''' has announced she will immediately leave parliament, after Minister of Immigration and Integration ] has announced that Hirsi Ali has never obtained Dutch citizenship. (Internationally known figure, (in the top 100 most important people of Times) steps down after it was announced that she has never obtained citizenship, has announced she will move to the United States. Very controversial in the Netherlands.) -- ] 17:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' per Masem & MtPenguinMonster ] (]) 05:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' until release ] (]) 05:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
{{abot}}


== January 4 ==
* ] ''']''' leaves 81 dead in ], ]. (The mine item is over a week old now)--] 10:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
{{cot|]}}
:* I support this nomination. (Comment1: Looks like the miners may be stuck at the bottom of ITN for 14 days, again .....) (Comment2: Perhaps the national flag may be better. It's more recognizable.) -- 12:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
{{Portal:Current events/2025 January 4}}
{{cob}}
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==== RD: Richard B. Hays ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Richard B. Hays <!-- Do not wikilink -->
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = HistoryTheorist <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| updaters = HistoryTheorist, Marbe166, Jkaharper, Innerstrife, Normantas Bataitis
| nom cmt = Died on the third but death announced January 4. Article needs some sourcing work, but I'm nominating anyway. Hopefully the nomination means that the article can get some attention.
| sign = ]] 05:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
==== RD: Claude Allègre ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Claude Allègre<!-- Do not wikilink -->
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = <!-- Include one or more references from verifiable, reliable sources. -->
| updated = <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
| nominator = TNM101 <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| updaters = Chaiten1<!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = French politician and scientist<!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ''']''' (]) 12:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}


:'''Oppose'''. Political career section is completely uncited, and some awards are missing sourcing as well. ] (]) 19:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*The ] restores diplomatic reations with ''']'''. Vaguely interesting.--] 10:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Political career section now updated with citations; scientific career and awards also updated and cited. ] (]) 22:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*Happened ~30 mins ago: earthquake @ 7.1 on richter scale <small>—]]<sub>(])</sub></small> 11:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
**It was in the ocean as far as I can tell.--] 11:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
***Updated to 7.6, yes in the middle of ocean, I noted it here in case it had any other effects-tsunamis or the like. It seems now it had no side effects. <small>—]]<sub>(])</sub></small> 20:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


==== (Posted) RD: Tomiko Itooka ====
*] ''']''' is convicted of committing and act of terrorism.--] 11:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
| article = Tomiko Itooka
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = TJMSmith <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = 103.85.36.150
| updaters = Jake11223344, INgIEroC
| nom cmt = Japanese supercentenarian. Date death announced.
| sign = ] (]) 15:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)<!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}


:{{comment}} Noting that I should not receive creation credit (if that's a thing at ITN) as I only created the page as a redirect and did not edit beyond that. <span style="color:green">](he/him)<sup>]</sup></span> 18:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html
Tape of Pentagon plane crash released ] 21:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)(]) ::Updated! ] (]) 23:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
**No info here. Not ITN. --] 8:07 AM May 31, 2006 (EDT)


'''Comment''' Tomiko Itooka was the oldest living person as well at the time of her death, and we've generally posted these supercentenarian when they are at the top. Although, its not there yet. ] (]) 16:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ]===
*'''Oppose''' So far, not enough breadth in the article to warrant main page posting. Cheers, ''atque supra''! ]]] 18:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*''']''' retired from the ] after 21 years in professional football. He played in the ], the ] and the defunct ].
*'''<s>Strong</s> Support''' Oldest living person in the world at the time, making her certainly notable enough for RD. Article is subpar but ultimately not a stub. --] (]) 19:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*U.S. restores diplomatic ties with ''']''', pending a 45-day comment period. This may affect the ]. ] 17:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
*''']''' Sworn in As ]'s New President. He promises to stick to democratic principles.] 02:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
* ] ] ''']''' wins the ] with 77.5 percent of the vote. ] | ] 10:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


*'''Strong Support''' They were the oldest person so that makes her notable. --] (]) 19:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
===], ]===
*:@] and @], RDs are decided on article quality rather than notability. ] ] <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(])</sup></small></span> 23:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*The ''']''' enters in to the playoffs, with the ] finishing top of the table. --<small>]<sub>]</sub>|<sup>]</sup></small> 01:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:* So, who won ? Can we wait till we have a winner ? -- ] 09:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC) *::Alright, thank you for the explanation. ] (]) 23:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::*Yes, you can have one in two weeks. --<small>]<sub>]</sub>|<sup>]</sup></small> 11:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC) *'''Support''' Short but adequate. -] (]) 04:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' ]] 22:06, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*Up tp 200 people are killed in the ''']''' in ], ]. ] 06:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:* This stub needs to be markedly expanded, IMO, before it gets on the Main Page. -- ] 09:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


==== (Closed) 2024–25 Ethiopian earthquakes ====
===], ]===
{{atop|A consensus to post at this point will not develop. Consider nominating again if this becomes bigger. --''']''' 12:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}}
]
{{ITN candidate
* ''']''' makes ] twice in the ], killing at least 24 people. -- ] 09:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = 2024–25 Ethiopian earthquakes
| image = <!-- Name of image only; do not link. Please crop the image before adding, if necessary. -->
| blurb = Signs of a volcanic eruption appears in ] in ].
| recent deaths =
| ongoing = yes
| ITNR = no <!-- 'No' by default. Only put in 'yes' if the event is listed at WP:ITNR -->
| altblurb = <!-- An alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| altblurb2 = <!-- A second alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| sources = ,
| updated = <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
| nominator = AsteriodX <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = AsteriodX
| updaters = AsteriodX
| nom cmt = <!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] (]) 05:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Oppose''' three months of low-level activity damaging 100 houses. Not significant enough. ]] 05:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Stephen. Little to no unusually major impact thus far. ] ] <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(])</sup></small></span> 06:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Stephen, doesn't meet ]. ]] (]) 12:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
{{abottom}}


== January 3 ==
*] win the ''']''' via ]. --<small>]<sub>]</sub>|<sup>]</sup></small> 01:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
{{cot|]}}
:* I support this nomination. -- ] 09:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
{{Portal:Current events/2025 January 3}}
{{cob}}
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==== RD: Yusuf Bhamjee ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Yusuf Bhamjee
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2025-01-03-tributes-pour-in-for-former-pmb-mayor-and-champion-of-service-delivery-yusuf-bhamjee/
| updated = yes
| nominator = Lefcentreright
| updaters = Lefcentreright
| nom cmt = Former anti-apartheid activist, mayor and member of parliament
| sign = '''<span style="background:#0057b7">]</span><span style="background:#ffd700">]</span>''' 06:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
==== RD: Jeff Baena ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Jeff Baena
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = TJMSmith <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = Zujine
| updaters = 98.173.178.246, Simonthings18, DiaMali, Jolielover
| nom cmt = American screenwriter and film director.
| sign = ] (]) 16:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)<!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*'''Support''' Article is well cited and long enough to be put on ITNRD. Cheers, ''atque supra''! ]]] 21:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Updated, now with good sources, and otherwise fully-sourced with satisfactory detail for ITN. ] (]) 02:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
* '''Support''' Article has been significantly improved upon since news broke and I believe it fits all the ITN criteria ]] 08:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*<s>'''Not ready''' Filmography section is unreferenced and career section needs more references.</s> '''Support''' Article seems ready now. ] (]) 01:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Besides producing ''Spin Me Round'', all of Baena's filmography roles are referenced in the career section. That section doesn't need more refs, nor is the filmography section really unreferenced, when it's a handful of projects all laid out directly above. ] (]) 04:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:: Zero footnotes in the Filmography section (thus looks like a block of unsourced materials, making the wikiarticle a poor candidate to put on MainPage). If footnotes are readily available from the prose, why aren't they re-deployed in the tables? The tables included ''Cinema Toast'', but this title cannot be found in the prose. --] (]) 04:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Honestly, when it comes to creators rather than actors, refs are rarely included in the tables. Cell-fill templates are generally used for yes/no, so refs can't be put in the individual columns, which would necessitate a separate column for (in this case) up to three refs. Why repeat when the information is available in prose; it's not a V issue to 'duplicate' sourced prose in diagram format, so to say it should just for MP when FA/FL/DYK don't require it is surely just your opinion. Fair point about ''Cinema Toast'', I had just been looking at the film table. ] (]) 05:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Why not add the reference to the title cell in the table? ] (]) 12:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::IDK, style preference? But you can if you want. ] (]) 21:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Posted) 2025 PDC World Darts Championship ====
* Hand-written notes by '''U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney''' released in '''Fitzgerald investigation''' implies Cheney's involvement in '''Valerie Plame''' case. Link:
{{ITN candidate
| article = 2025 PDC World Darts Championship
| image = Luke Littler.png
| blurb = In darts, ] (pictured) wins the ''']'''.
| recent deaths = no <!-- (yes/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Recent deaths" line -->
| ongoing = no <!-- (add/rem/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Ongoing" line -->
| ITNR = yes <!-- 'No' by default. Only put in 'yes' if the event is listed at WP:ITNR -->
| altblurb = <!-- An alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| altblurb2 = <!-- A second alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = OZOO <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = <!-- Editor who created the article, if relevant -->
| updaters = JamesVilla44
| nom cmt = ITNR sporting final.<!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] ] ] 22:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*'''Comment''' I've ] bolded the target article since it was missing bolding per ITN norm. ] (]) 23:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:<s>Article is currently '''not ready''' since some parts is still in future tense (Overview) and has some sourcing issues (Most subheadings under qualifications)</s> '''Support''' since the issues have been resolved. Excellent work with the referencing, {{ping|JamesVilla44}}! ] (]) 23:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Reference adding in progress ] (]) 20:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Seed section now referenced ] (]) 22:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Now referenced on pro tour qualification ] (]) 22:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


:Aren't all tables under the "Schedule" section violations of ]? Would this hinder it being posted? ] (]) 23:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*Police cane students and people protesting against proposed hike in reservations for other backward castes in educational institutes in India. Link:
:: MOS issues are generally a yellow "cleanup" tag issue, which doesn't prevent this from running, as only orange tags do. ]] (]) 12:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::Trying to change them to fit but I'm not experienced with it and don’t know how to make the evening session bit work like it should. ] (]) 23:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::Schedules should follow now, right? ] (]) 14:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes it should but there's something freaky on the table label showing the date on the show/hide function. ] (]) 20:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' The worlds most high-profile pub game being won by a guy too young to drink legally. Certainly interesting. There is one tag on there about referencing but looking at it, the tag shouldn't be there as the section seems well referenced as is the rest of it. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.5em 0.5em 0.6em;"> ''']''' (])</span> 22:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' ITN/R, well-referenced, congrats to the lad. ] (]) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support.''' Well referenced. Good to go. ] (]) 03:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' looks to meet ]. Marking ready. ]] (]) 16:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted'''. ] 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


===], ]=== ==== RD: Britt Allcroft ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Britt Allcroft
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Ollieisanerd <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = 66.185.84.206
| updaters = TheStarSwitcher
| nom cmt = Date death announced.
| sign = ] (] • ]) 16:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)<!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*'''Support''' - Meets ITN RD requirements, appears ready. ] (]) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Where's the citation for two paragraphs in her career section? ''']''' (]) 15:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Closed) Devastating eruption located ====
*]n officials ] areas surrounding ] ''']''' in ], believing an eruption to be imminent. Article is up to date. ].--] 06:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
{{atop|SNOW closing (volcanic winter snow?), since there is a clear consensus that this will not get posted. If expanded enough, DYK is a good alternative. --''']''' 14:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)}}
:* I support this nomination. Wikified it. -- ] 09:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
::*OK, posted.--] 18:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Zavaritski Caldera
| image = Simushir ISS006-E-24468.jpg
| blurb = The ''']''' ''(pictured)'' which caused blue suns and global famine has been identified.
| recent deaths = no <!-- (yes/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Recent deaths" line -->
| ongoing = no <!-- (add/rem/no); instead of specifying a blurb the nomination can be for the "Ongoing" line -->
| ITNR = no <!-- 'No' by default. Only put in 'yes' if the event is listed at WP:ITNR -->
| altblurb = <!-- An alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| altblurb2 = <!-- A second alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| sources = ,
| updated = yes
| nominator = Andrew Davidson <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = <!-- Editor who created the article, if relevant -->
| updaters = Wtmitchell
| nom cmt = A long-standing mystery has been solved. There's still work to do on expanding the article and updating related topics such as ] and ]. Those who measure significance by deaths should note that the resulting famines such as the ] caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.
| sign = ]🐉(]) 11:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}


:'''Oppose the blurb''': Average reader would not understand what is this even about, at least in first few glances. Blue suns? Should be wikilinked, googling it gives weird things. Which global famine(s)? Too vague. If it is about some 1831 global climate catastrophe, does Misplaced Pages have an article about or related to it? Googling 'Zavaritski Caldera' on news tab currently only serves one news item by daily mail. It should first be reported by few major general news media outlets so that we may 'it is in news'. I don't say it is not interesting, but very confusing. {{User:ExclusiveEditor/Signature}} 11:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*] sets new world record in 100 metres. -- ] 00:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:: The meteorological use of ] doesn't have an article, but it probably could, there's enough material out there i.e. . Meanwhile, the article is a stub and I don't see it significantly in the news at the moment. ] 12:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
**Posted. --] 04:03, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
::: I was working on getting this started but got an edit conflict. Will leave it for now but my impression is that there's lots of work to be done around this. ]🐉(]) 12:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''': the article is still a stub, and the blurb is not clear for non-initiated readers. ] (]) 13:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Using the Little Ice Age article as a reference, there's multiple volcanic events that contributed to the changing climate from 1600-1900, and while discovering one of the sources is of scientific interest, this is not as key a breakthrough as the blurb seems to want to suggest. --] (]) 13:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' due to target article length/overall quality and a far too vague blurb for the average reader. ] (]) 13:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. This is a proposed (unconfirmed) interpretation of an event that happened in 1831. It's a mildly interesting result but has no major impact. I don't think this reaches the level of significance or broad interest that would merit an ITN blurb. In addition, the article is a stub with a single reference. We don't seem to have any article about the 1831 atmospheric phenomena, just a single bullet point in ] - an indication that the event wasn't particularly influential or historically significant. ] ] 14:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
{{abottom}}


===], ]=== ====(Posted) RD: Tariana Turia ====
{{ITN candidate
*Mexican State Police ''']''' ], ] on ], following the ]'s support of 60 flower vendors in neighboring ]. Hundres are beaten, homes ransacked. News takes time to get out. ] of the ] has pledged support to residents of the community, which lies about 15 miles north of ]. <span style="background-color: #008000"><font color="#ffffff">]</font></span> 21:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Tariana Turia
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = ,
| updated = yes
| nominator = MtPenguinMonster <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| updaters = Paora <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Co-founder of ]
| sign = ] (]) 23:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
* '''Support:''' Reference 32 is a dead raw link, but other than that I don't see any problems (and it's a minor detail that shouldn't stop the article) ] (]) 13:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' looks good to me. A giant in NZ politics for sure. ] (]) 17:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Satis. ] (]) 18:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Not Ready''' On desktop and with standard width, the table under the "Labour Party" section title causes the text to be squeezed to 21 characters per row between it and the infobox on the right which makes the text needlessly hard to read. I am unsure where to move it. ] (]) 13:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*:{{Done}} Table moved. ] (]) 21:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Article is about a fairly notable person and is quite well-written. --] (]) 20:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted to RD'''. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 21:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


== January 2 ==
*Continuing controversy surrounds the ''']''', which major telephone companies in the ] have contributed customer records to. General ]'s confirmation hearings as Director of the ] before the ] are likely to deal with his connection to the ] effort. -] 17:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
{{cot|]}}
{{Portal:Current events/2025 January 2}}
{{cob}}
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==== RD: Louis Schittly ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Louis Schittly
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Thriley
| updaters =
| nom cmt = French physician and humanitarian. One of the founders of ]. Death reported 2 January.
| sign = ] (]) 17:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
==== RD: Buddy MacKay ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Buddy MacKay
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Davey2116
| updaters =
| nom cmt = American politician, ] for three weeks (1998–99), dies at age 91.
| sign = ] (]) 04:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Comment:''' Several areas that need more references. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 05:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Posted) RD: Wilhelm Brückner (luthier) ====
*Counting has completed in the ''']''' in ]. Elections in ], ''']''', ''']''', ] and ] took place between ], ] and ], ]. Results will be announced on ], ].
{{ITN candidate
: IMO, better to wait till the final results are released and ''added'' to the wikiarticles. -- ] 19:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Wilhelm Brückner (luthier)
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| creator = Rundstef
| nominator = Grimes2
| updaters = Grimes2, Gerda Arendt
| nom cmt = German luthier in Erfurt. He worked until 90 in his workshop.
| sign = ] (]) 18:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Support''', I came to nominate, and perhaps update, but you did it all! --] (]) 10:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
* Article looks fine, nice work. Not sure if bibliography like this is needed, but that's not an issue here. Posting. --''']''' 13:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Well sourced, informative, ready to post. ] (]) 13:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


==== RD: Rosita Missoni ====
*] bill stopped by ] in ] mainly over concerns it would pressurise vulnerable people into asking for and receiving deadly drugs and because some patients classed as terminally ill recover and decide that they would not have liked to have had their wish for death granted when they made it. --] 18:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
**No bolded article, so I don't know what's been updated; I don't see this as a major story, legislatures vote down bills all the time. --] 20:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Rosita Missoni
***sorry I just thought it was important but had not done anything to any article. sorry.--] 10:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = ,
| updated = yes
| nominator = Thriley
| updaters =
| nom cmt = Italian knitwear designer. With her husband ], she co-founded Italian luxury fashion house ]. Death reported 2 January.
| sign = ] (]) 19:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Oppose on quality''' Way too short to be posted to the Main Page. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose:''' Article is still a stub. It also merely says that she died, but not the causes of death or any reactions to it. ] (]) 13:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Unless something has changed here recently, cause of death does not need to be mentioned for people who die of old age. RD does not require that degree of depth. ] (]) 18:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:She was 93. ] (]) 09:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:We do not require cause of death. But we do require that it’s at least start class, which this one is not. ''']]''' 20:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


===], ]=== ==== RD: Ján Zachara ====
{{ITN candidate
]
| article = Ján Zachara
*] ] is the first ] to be ''']''' ].
| recent deaths = yes
**or alternatively "former Italian Communist" could point to ], his current party. ] 11:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
| sources = {{cite web |title=Vo veku 96 rokov zomrel bývalý slovenský boxer a olympijský víťaz Ján Zachara |url=https://dennikn.sk/minuta/4386742/?ref=mwat |website=Denník N |language=sk-SK |date=2 January 2025}} {{Cite web |title=Legendary boxer Ján Zachara passed away |url=https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/news/388238/legendary-boxer-jan-zachara-passed-away |access-date=2025-01-02 |website=rtvs.sk |language=en}}
::*According to the edit summaries, the ] story was added as a stopgap intended to be replaced bythe Italian president story as soon as it broke. I'm glad about that, because I was just about to challenge the inclusion of the EU story :) It seems that ratification by another State is pretty meaningless really, because the Constitution seems to be dead in the water. (The UK are holding off ratifying it, since some referendums have failed... I accept, however, that is interesting in itself but it's more of a "featured article" issue than ''news''). I say we add the Italian story and ditch the Estonian one. --] 11:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
| updated = yes
::*Do we have another photo of him? That one appears to not only be non-free but it's nominated for deletion. --] 11:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
| nominator = Di (they-them)
:::*There's a photo but I can't find information on the copyright status. Alternatively, http://www.dsonline.it seems to use the EP photo, and there is another one. It should be promotional material, is it usable? ] 12:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
| nom cmt = 1952 Olympic gold medalist, died on the same day as another 1952 gold medalist (])
| sign = ] (]) 16:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Comment''' Current page size is 1427 B (243 words), generally still barely considered a ].—] (]) 18:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose:''' Article is very short, and does not mention the causes of death. ] (]) 14:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*We don't post stubs. ''']]''' 20:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Posted) RD: Ágnes Keleti ====
===], ]===
{{ITN candidate
]
| article = Ágnes Keleti
* Considering that the ] is the Featured Article in less than 8 hours, let's take the ] off the Main Page, perhaps replace it with this photo of ], the next CIA head. A blurb about him is on ITN right now. -- ] 16:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
:* Thanks for finally using the pic I suggested days ago. :-) I don't remember I'd suggested it. -- ] 11:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
| sources = <ref>{{cite news |title=Meghalt Keleti Ágnes |url=https://www.blikk.hu/sport/meghalt-keleti-agnes/08q17gr |work=Blikk |date=2 January 2025 |language=hu}}</ref>
]
| updated = yes <!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
*] ] issues an official directive requiring all government ] of ] to vote against ]s proposed by the opposition after the controversy surrounding ''']''' resignation as leader of the ]s. (; frontpaged by most major Malaysian dailies. The item probably needs a good trim, though.) ] | ] 06:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
| nominator = 94.44.118.57
:I don't think it's very newsworthy that MPs are directed to vote on party lines - in fact it's a surprise they don't have a strong party whip in the first place. I'm reverting pending more discussion. (Also, the way it was added to the front page was incorrect - the reference to the Tasmania map remained, but the map was removed). --] 20:37, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
::Yes, I forgot to remove "(location shown on map)" in my first edit, though I did correct it shortly afterward. I think this item is notable for the context of the wider ] controversy, which has not previously been on ITN, and for which we have a pretty comprehensive article on thanks to Johnleemk.--] 20:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
| nom cmt = The oldest living Olympian in history <!-- Additional comments go here -->
::Indeed, sorry about that (the map issue) - you were fixing it as I was typing here :) I don't think this story is of any international significance nor it is particularly interesting or unusual, I feel. That said, I'm just one guy... --] 20:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
| sign = <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
]
}}
:::Well, it does seem to be the only viable item newer than the Tasmanian mine collapse, which was added about 24 hours ago.--] 21:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Second and and third citation above from {{user|Spworld2}}'s duplicate . His comment was
::Yeah, you're right. I should have probably written a better (and more interesting) item, since it would reflect the magnitude of the dispute. (It's not a small thing when you consider this is a blanket ban; a resolution stating "This house believes that there is a God" would be shot down even though every MP believes in God and there is no separation of mosque and state, because MPs can't vote in favour of anything the opposition proposes. A better wording would probably be: "] ] clarifies that the ] is always in force for ] Members of ] after the controversy surrounding ''']''' decision to support an opposition motion." Then again, that sounds boring too (and the Whip article is also a DYK candidate currently). Sigh...still, what item from Asia are we going to have after the PAP election victory is taken down? ] | ] 05:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:{{tq|Ágnes Keleti has died, at the age of 104 , Hungarian Olympic champion, gymnast and Sportswoman}}. ] (]) 09:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:::The news will come to you. I don't think it's right to be putting "something Asian" on the front cover for the sake of it. :) That said, probably we do now need something ''new'' asap, and a picture to replace the Aussie map, since the Aussie flag is now on the front page... --] 08:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
'''Comment''' Actually, she wasn't the oldest at the time of her death. Both ] and ] were older then Ágnes Keleti. She was the oldest living champion, however. But its almost there, the article. ] (]) 10:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''', she's a notable Hungarian athlete who not only won 10 Olympic medals, but was also inducted into the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, the Hungarian Sports Hall of Fame, the International Women's Sports Hall of Fame, and the International Gymnastics Hall of Fame. ] (]) 16:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:* This is a recent deaths nomination, and so as per the notice, only the article quality should be considered (every person with an article is eligible to be nominated). ]] (]) 17:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Procedural oppose''' as per ]. The nominator is blocked for sockpuppetry/block evasion, so we shouldn't be supporting that by allowing this nomination of theirs. ]] (]) 17:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:If they verifiably died, they qualify. It doesn't help readers in this case to DENY. Per the ] policy: {{tq|This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor (changes that are obviously helpful, such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism, can be allowed to stand), but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert.|q=yes}}—] (]) 18:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Article is in quality to post. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' denying a non-offending article's RD eligibility just because it so happened to be initially nominated by a sockpuppet account is a bad precedent to set. It sends a message that if you really dislike someone and don't want them to be memorialized, the solution is for you to quickly create a sockpuppet account and push out an RD nom, so that the target article is never allowed on the main page. The article is well sourced and ready. ]]] ] 20:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Joseph2302, ] applies here. Rewarding a banned editor by posting this will only encourage more sockpuppetry. This should be closed and an editor in good standing can renominate. ] (]) 22:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:How about simply withholding the ITN nom credit template? No need to close and renominate the same candidate. -- ] (]) 17:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Looks like that's what Stephen has done.-- ] (]) 16:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Closed) Yoav Gallant resigns from Israel parliament ====
*Former ] of ] ''']''' is acquitted of a ] charge.--] 21:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
{{atop
:*Though Zuma has been out of office for a while, he still seeems to be a pretty major political figure in the country. Note: He was actually acquitted on May 8, but people tend not to scroll down so I've posted this here.--] 21:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
| result = This won't gain consensus. ''']]''' 19:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
{{ITN candidate
| article = Yoav Gallant
| image = Yoav_Galant_1.jpg
| blurb = ''']''', member of the ] (pictured), resigns at the age of 66, after being fired in November.
| recent deaths = no
| ongoing = no
| ITNR = no
| altblurb = <!-- An alternative blurb. Leave blank if not needed -->
| altblurb2 =
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = ArPerfectlyEdits <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| nom cmt = I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet.
| sign = ] (]) 14:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Oppose''' Thanks for the information, but resigning from parliament is not ITN-worthy. He was already ITN with the fact, that the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant. ] (]) 14:49, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. Resigning after being fired is hardly the news bombshell he might have hoped for, even if he is an international criminal. ] (]) 15:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Strong oppose''' first this doesn't meet ]. Also, this nomination was made by an editor with 29 edits, and so violates ] (need to have 500 edits to edit this topic area). ]] (]) 17:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I don't understand your last sentence. Why should an ITNC editor have 500 edits? ] (]) 17:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::That's coming from the Arbcom decision on anythibg related to the Israel/Palestine conflict, which includes when these topics appear on ITN.<span id="Masem:1735843709420:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;] (]) 18:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
{{abot}}


== January 1 ==
===], ]===
{{cot|]}}
*''']'''. Judgement was delivered in this case today with a rather unexpected victory for Apple Computer. ''']''' has been tagged and updated. I think this news should go onto the front page. --] 10:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (I am an admin but since I've not used this page before I will wait for feedback from other editors).
{{Portal:Current events/2025 January 1}}
]
{{cob}}
:*Nobody objected, it's massive on Google News, and I'm not waiting around until it's old news, so I've gone ahead and added it :). Please trim/copyedit if need be. --] 17:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
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==== (needs attention) RD: Jean-Michel Defaye ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Jean-Michel Defaye
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = Gerda Arendt
| updaters = Gerda Arendt
| nom cmt = Versatile French composer, pianist, arranger, conductor, - awards when young but only a short obit now that he died at age 92.
| sign = --] (]) 20:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
}}


====(Posted) RD: Ripken (dog) ====
*Costa Rica's Inauguration Day. Peace Nobel Prize Oscar Arias is sworn as Costa Rica's president for second time. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- -->
{{ITN candidate
| article = Ripken (dog)
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = <!-- Include one or more references from verifiable, reliable sources. -->
| updated = yes
| nominator = History6042
| updaters = Skynxnex <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Baseball retrieval dog
| sign = ] '''(])''' 14:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*'''Support''' Good depth of coverage. "List of occupations" section covered by references in the main text. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 21:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' ]] 01:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


==== RD: David Lodge ====
]
{{ITN candidate
*''']''' occurred in April ] in ], ], ]. At 9.23pm on ], ], a seismic event triggered an underground rock fall at the Beaconsfield gold mine in northern Tasmania. As at 7am AEST on Saturday ], the raise borer had drilled about eleven (11) metres of the 14.5m rescue tunnel. On Tuesday May 9 2006 at around 6am the miners have been recused. ] 3:05 7 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = David Lodge (author)<!-- Do not wikilink -->
:* Let's wait till the two poor fellas get rescued. -- ] 02:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
::I agree with you let's wait. This story got a lot of international interest I saw it on CNN and lots of other stations. ] 14:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| sources = <!-- Include one or more references from verifiable, reliable sources. -->
::I don't like the phrasing of the one suggested above. Perhaps...
| updated = yes<!-- (yes/no); Leave blank if you aren't sure -->
::*Two ]n miners are rescued after fourteen days trapped underground in the ''']'''. ]]] 23:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:3531:2BB0:7F04:241F <!-- Do NOT change this -->
::... is more concise. ]]] 23:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| updaters = Jkaharper <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
:::It's okay if you changed this. Thanks for posting. ] 24:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| nom cmt = British author and critic.<!-- Additional comments go here -->
]
| sign = ] (]) 02:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
::::I put up the Tasmanian flag as suggested, I wonder if perhaps a map would be more appropriate as Tasmania isn't a national entity. What's the thought on this?--] 00:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
}}
::::: I like the map. We've had too many flags on the Main Page recently. ]]] 00:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment:''' Several unreferenced paragraphs. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 21:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::There's are couple on . ] 00:36 9 May 2006 (UTC)
*:All dealt with now. ] (]) 09:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::I like the map too. It's GFDL, so I've replaced it. --] 17:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' High quality and well referenced article ] (]) 08:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::I like it a lot better. There are to many flags on the Main Page recently. ] 19:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


===] ]=== ==== (Posted) RD: Wayne Osmond====
{{ITN candidate
*''']''', the leader of the ], was named on May 7, 2006 by the ] as one of the ] for crimes stemming from ] and ]. The reward for information leading to his arrest has been raised from $60,000 to $100,000. ] 02:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Wayne Osmond
:* IMO, this stepson-of-his-own would not garner much international interest. -- ] 02:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = , ,
| updated = yes
| nominator = TheAstorPastor <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| creator = <!-- Editor who created the article, if relevant -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = <!-- Additional comments go here -->
| sign = ] (]) 08:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*'''Support''' Appropriate depth, fully referenced. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 21:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
* '''Posted'''. --] (]) 00:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Closed) 2025 Trump International Hotel explosion ====
*The ''']''' has ended with the ] returning to power for the twelth time and winning all except two seats as well as a total percentage of 66.6% of the total votes. --]]</font>]] 04:27, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
{{atop|result=Consensus to post will not develop. {{NAC}} <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 10px #ff0000, 1px 1px 10px #ccc; font-weight:bold; font-family:Century Gothic;"><i>🔥]]🔥</i></span> <small>]</small> 08:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)}}
:*Posted.--] 06:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
| article = Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion
| image = Trump International Hotel Las Vegas.png
| blurb = One person is killed and seven others are injured when a ] ''']''' (pictured) outside of the ] in ], ], United States.
| altblurb =
| sources =
|nominator = Spworld2
| sign = ] (]) 09:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
}}


*'''Strong oppose''' This was deliberated before but it was taken down. Now a few hours on, we have more coverage than ], but it still doesn't appear that important. Also, ], but that appears to be SNOW keep at the moment. ] (]) 05:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''] threatens to withdraw from the ]''' in response to a draft ] resolution by ], the ] and the ] that would force Iran to stop its uranium enrichment program Iran has threatened to withdraw from the treaty. -- ] 15:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
*:@] This is in favor of the ], but the article should maintain its current status.
**I see no updated article here. --] 20:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
*:This does not appear to be a normal explosion, there is international media coverage, one person was killed and 7 were injured, and there are reports that this is related to the ] ] (]) 05:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Whether it was intentional or not, a single death is not significant to post as a story, unless it was determined to be an act of terrorism (which doesn't seem to be the case at this point). --] (]) 05:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:@] Was it determined to be intentional or not? There was one death and more than 7 injuries, and this did not happen near a normal hotel. 2025 New Orleans truck attack still under investigation -
*:FBI is trying to determine if the incident was an act of terrorism, CNN reports ] (]) 05:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Are you suggesting MINIMUMDEATHS > 1? ] (]) 08:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::It ]. —] (]) 08:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - this nomination has already been closed once. This could easily be just an accident or a grandiose suicide. The only reason there may be more coverage than local is because of the (possibly conincidental) timing with the New Orleans attack; which would make it the same story if there is a link. ] (]) 05:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:@] It seems that the previous nomination was terminated due to lack of quality. This does not seem to be a normal occurrence. ] (]) 05:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:] was withdrawn by the nominator.—] (]) 08:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' . I share the sentiments of one of the original comments. A car fire? Some Tesla cars seem to have this issue. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.5em 0.5em 0.6em;"> ''']''' (])</span> 09:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:To be fair, mass shootings (and other kind of mass-murders) are objectively more common in the US than car fires. ] (]) 11:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:: In 2021, 650 Americans died in motor vehicle fires and 48,000 by firearms, but most are suicides; only about 480 were in mass shootings. ] ] 05:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' as a single item, merge with the New Orleans blurb IF a connection is officially confirmed. ] (]) 10:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' we do not report incidents where only one person died unless if it is the assassination of a notable person.
:] (]) 11:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::Yes, Vice President Elect Musk has "broken silence" to reassure us that Tesla Cybertrucks are perfectly safe. But he is still alive. ] (]) 11:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Vehicles explode (and cause injuries from said explosions) all the time, I don’t see what makes this particular instance so special. I may reconsider if concrete proof of the explosion being intentional comes out, but I doubt it. ] (]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I also see that this nom was closed already, another reason for opposition ] (]) 13:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::{{small|Note: I'm pretty sure that Tesla Cybertrucks are not concrete-proof.}} ] (]) 14:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' It seems fairly clear that this wasn't a routine vehicle fire as the explosion was set up with fireworks and gas canisters. It seems conceivable that it's connected with the other truck terrorism incident and so we should await further investigation. ]🐉(]) 14:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' @] is right. Some new articles are now calling this a possible act of terrorism. , <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)</small>
::The this is likely a '''Suicide'''. I'm horrified that people keep recreating the article and reopening the discussion, when this was pretty obviously a good likelihood at the time this discussion was reopened! Close this abortion now. ] (]) 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Strong Oppose''' This was already previously nominated, discussed, and quickly closed. --] (]) 19:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' I was rejected from nominating it, however now that it was a terrorist attack and one person died, it only makes sense for it to be nominated. Two terrorist attacks in one day, sad. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*:There's no indication, ], that this was a suicide. Why do you think this wasn't a suicide? ] (]) 20:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::@] well I've heard from some news sources that it is a terrorist attack. ] (]) 20:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::Do you have any references, ]? I haven't seen any since they declared that they believe it's a suicide. ] (]) 20:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' my alt blurb. ] (]) 20:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Strong oppose (again) that altblurb. These attacks are not related in method or scope (active attack with 10+ deaths vs. a suicide with no additional deaths). Also, while most know where New Orleans is, Paradise in English internationally overwhelmingly is not used to refer to the Nevada location. ] (]) 20:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Sorry, I don't live in the US and I'm not familiar with American cities. ] (]) 20:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Our article ] says it's in Paradise, not Las Vegas. Our blurbs shouldn't be factually wrong. Though why anyone wants to ITN a suicide I don't know. That's highly concerning. ] (]) 21:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::Trying to think of it as an '''explosion''' rather than a suicide might alleviate some of that concern. People nominate exploding meteors, exploding pipelines, exploding all kinds of stuff. Humans are often involved, but they're not the basis, like in ''pure'' death cases. ] (]) 21:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' The authorities have officially announced that this incident was ''not'' linked to the New Orleans incident. With that in mind, this is not nearly important enough for the main page. ] (]) 20:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*I'm just...appalled with this discussion, between the last nom and this one. I do agree with the consensus that this is a single isolated incident and not really ITN worthy, I really think the civility was lost some time ago with this one. Just a recommendation everyone - let's chill out a bit. ] (]) 20:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:It's free forum open to divergent opinions. The only civility lost was due to the tragedies. ] (]) 20:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::When divergent opinions go to reopening closed debatess and glorifying suicide, then that's a step too far. The article is a huge violation of ]. ] (]) 21:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::The original nomination was withdrawn, not closed otherwise. Reporting by major reliable sources has improved since then so reopening this wasn't quite as big of a problem as that, in my opinion. ] (]) 21:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - This is now being reported as an isolated incident. As no-one but the victim/perpetrator died, I don't think it comes anywhere near the usual threshold for ITN, and I'm rather suprised it's still being debated. ] (]) 23:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' -- this really ought to be closed; clearly consensus won't develop to post this. --]] 05:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
{{abot}}


====(Posted) Schengen Area expansion ====
*Lillian Gertrud Asplund, the oldest living American survivor of the Titanic survivor, dies at 99 years of age.-Bio2590 03:54, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
:* There are 2 more ], though neither are American. -- ] 04:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = Schengen Area
:*Yes, but she was the oldest living that could actually remember the event. She was 5 years old, and the other two were 10 months and 2 months.-Bio2590 12:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| blurb = Romania and Bulgaria join the ''']''', the European passport-free zone.
:*Oh, and she was the oldest living on, in case you hadn't seen-Bio2590 12:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
| altblurb = ] and ] join the ''']''' and lift land border checks.
| altblurb2 = ] and ] both become full members of the ''']'''.
| altblurb3 = ] and ] both become full members of the ''']''' by removing land border checks, seven months after their initial admission.
| sources = ,
| nominator = UCinternational
| updaters = WikiContributor0830
}}


:'''Support''', I would argue that any changes to the composition of the ] are inherently relevant as the largest area with free movement in the world, and for years it has been a major topic of discussion here in the European Union that Romania and Bulgaria were the last EU members to not have been admitted (excl. Ireland who have an opt-out) because of a veto from Austria in the Council of the European Union. So it was very significant when the vote finally passed last month in the ].
===], ]===
:However, that wording is probably not ideal—''in a legal sense'', Romania and Bulgaria joined the Schengen Area on 31 March 2024 when border controls were lifted for air and sea travel. The news are that land border checks have also just been lifted, granting the countries full participation on the same level as all other 27 member states.
]
:So I would propose re-phrasing the blurb to something like ''] and ] become full members of the ], with land border checks lifted on 1 January 2025.''
*] Director ] resigns at a short press brief at the ] with the ] at his side. --] 17:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
: ] (]) 05:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support''', but agree with BochiBochiGalaxy, so also '''added altblurb 1.''' ] (]) 10:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support on notability''' This is a major change in international policy. --] (]) 11:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support ALT1''' as a major change in policy that is in the news, so meets ]. And target article has enough information about this event to pass ]. ]] (]) 11:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' This item is misleading because, currently, many major EU nations are actually operating border controls – Austria, Denmark, Germany, France, Netherlands, Sweden, etc. – see . Schengen is effectively in abeyance and the article/blurb do not explain this. ]🐉(]) 14:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Positive news, and any complaints about the article or story being misleading can be addressed in the article itself. ] (]) 16:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - important moment for those countries. Very notable event. - ] (]) 18:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:'''Support''' per Eugen. ] (]) 20:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


:'''Oppose''' - 2 nations joining the Schengen isn't that exciting. ] (]) 20:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] starts today.
*'''Support''' Major development. {{ping|SimpleSubCubicGraph}} ITN articles do not have to be "exciting", they simply must be important. ] (]) 20:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:* So who won ? -- ] 07:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support altblurb2''' as nominator. ] (]) 22:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:: I add my vote for this event to appear on the main page. --''']]''' 15:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Both are major European countries with relatively large populations. I like the original blurb the most, but I'm fine with any of them. This is certainly a development worthy for ITN. --] (]) 22:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::: Let's wait till we have a winner. -- ] 10:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
*:With the edits to the blurbs, I now prefer '''Altblurb 1''' to the others. ] (]) 06:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support alt2''' - Significant development in international relations. ] (]) 23:11, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::NB: Since I made the above post, the blurbs have been edited by another user to be more verbose than they were previously. I liked the conciseness of alt2, which is why I voted for it. The current alt2 is not what I voted for; I would support '''the original blurb''' in preference to it. ] (]) 00:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|GenevieveDEon}} I've restored altblurb2 and moved the appended altblurb2 to a new altblurb since it was significantly appended by another editor without my knowledge. ] (]) 02:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' ALT2. ''']]''' 07:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Surprised by lack of wikilinking on the country names, so dropping by to comment. They are major but there's a large population which isn't very familiar with them. '']'' <sup>]</sup> 22:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I've brought this up on ]. ] (]) 01:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


==== RD: John B. O'Reilly Jr. ====
* Former President ] of Indonesia, dictator for three decades and reputedly the world's most corrupt head of state, is currently was hospitalized over "intestinal bleeding", but is moreover suffering "partial organ failure" and listed in unstable condition. --] 17:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
**If his qualification under 'deaths' isn't absolute (his passing would have no effect on currentp olitics), I don't see why a possibly fatal illness qualifies him any more. --] 22:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
| article = John B. O'Reilly Jr.
| recent deaths = yes
| sources =
| updated = yes
| nominator = History6042
| updaters = Moeqas, Jkaharper,
| nom cmt = 6th mayor of Dearborn, Michigan.
| sign = ] '''(])''' 22:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
}}
*In its current form, the article isn't ready. Date and place of birth are unreferenced. There is absolutely nothing about his early life, education, or work history. ''']]''' 19:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


===], ]=== ==== RD: Chad Morgan ====
{{ITN candidate
| article = Chad Morgan
| recent deaths = yes
| sources = https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-02/chad-morgan-australian-country-music-singer-dies/104778248
| updated = yes
| nominator = HiLo48 <!-- Do NOT change this -->
| updaters = <!-- Editor(s) who significantly updated the article, separated by commas -->
| nom cmt = Australian comedy country music performer known as "The Sheik of Scrubby Creek".
| sign = ] (]) 22:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC) <!-- Do NOT change this -->
}}
*Discography lacks a single reference. ]] 22:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Posted) 2025 Cetinje shootings ====
]
{{ITN candidate
* A new ''']''', led by ] ] ''(pictured)'', is approved by the ] and ]. (Besides the ], nothing else is interesting in the news today so far.) -- ] 22:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
|article = 2025 Cetinje shootings
|blurb = Thirteen people including the perpetrator are killed and four others are injured in ''']''' in ], Montenegro.
|altblurb = Thirteen are killed in ''']''' in ], Montenegro. The shootings are the deadliest in Montenegro since 1944 during Nazi occupation.
|sources =
|nominator = SimpleSubCubicGraph}}
*'''Support on notability, oppose on quality''' Quite similar in scope as the ], also taking place in ]. Removed mention of terrorism in the blurb as it's not in the source beyond the involvement of counter-terrorist government agencies. The second shooting targeted the restaurant owner's family. ] (]) 22:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


:@] Changed it once more to deadliest shooting in Montenegro since 1944. ] (]) 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:* This sounds like a good one. ]]] 03:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::That's almost certainly not relevant. "Deadliest since X" isn't needed in a blurb. ] (]) 22:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::*OK, posted.--] 06:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:::@] Please clarify if I am wrong but doesn't blurb mean short description? ] (]) 22:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Blurbs are almost always a single sentence and typically don't contain context in the blurb. For instance, we wouldn't have the second sentence read "Shootings in Montenegro are rare due to strict gun laws" either - that can be implied from the source or the article. ] (]) 22:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I turned SSCG's changes into an altblurb. ] (]) 22:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' on quality. Article is all of eight sentences. Notability is unclear. -] (]) 22:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*:@] how is a terrorist attack that has killed as many people as the New Orleans truck attack not notable? ] (]) 22:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*::The article does not indicate that this is a terrorist incident. If that is established I would likely support on the merits, though article quality does not meet the customary standards for ITN as of this comment. -] (]) 22:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::@] its still people dying... ] (]) 22:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::I am not questioning the basic notability of the subject for inclusion in the encyclopedia. But we have a higher bar for blurbs at ITN. All of which said, the immediate problem is article quality. -] (]) 22:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support on notability, oppose on quality'''. This is the worst shooting in the country since World War II, so it definitely warrants inclusion. However, the article is way too short for the main page. ] (]) 22:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Note: I oppose the altblurb, since those facts may not be correct. ] (]) 00:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*<s>'''Oppose'''</s> - there's no mention in the article about these being the largest shootings since WWII. Perhaps because 11 died in the same location less than 30 months ago - ] (which was ITN). Also there were higher death counts for sprees murdering Albanians during the 1990s Yugoslav wars. This nomination is ]. ] (])
*<s>'''Oppose''' per Nfitz. <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 10px #ff0000, 1px 1px 10px #ccc; font-weight:bold; font-family:Century Gothic;"><i>🔥]]🔥</i></span> <small>]</small> 23:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)</s> Changed to '''Support''' on notability due to increased death count. <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 10px #ff0000, 1px 1px 10px #ccc; font-weight:bold; font-family:Century Gothic;"><i>🔥]]🔥</i></span> <small>]</small> 18:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support original blurb on notability, wait on quality'''. This is definitely notable with 10 dead, but the article is a very short stub. I also oppose the alternative blurb per Nfitz. --] (]) 00:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I now fully '''Support the original blurb''' seeing as the article quality has improved and the casualty count has risen. ] (]) 20:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*<s>'''Oppose'''</s> '''Weak Oppose''' - This doesn't seem terrorism related at all, and is rather a crazy person with a gun angry at the world after perceived slights. --]] 00:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC) (Note: with the updated death count, I only weakly oppose posting-- ]] 22:11, 2 January 2025 (UTC))
*:@] he killed as many people as the new orleans truck attack, what makes this not in the news? ] (]) 03:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::I supported this for ITN, did you mean to ping Rockstone? ] (]) 03:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::@] Yes, I am sorry. @] read above please ] (]) 03:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::@] we typically don't post things that are notable only for the number of deaths without something more. We wouldn't have posted a mass shooting that killed 10 people in the US, for example. -- ]] 03:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::::@] so 10 people dying mean nothing to you? What if you were a family member of those people? Wouldnt you want everyone to hear what that person did? You cant be apathetic to these people just because they dont affect you. You need to understand how that not only affected the family and friends of the 10 but the entire city and nation of Montenegro. ] (]) 04:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::::Opposing this doesn't mean I don't condemn the attacks or mourn the lives lost. Please don't set up a strawman. Of course I feel awful for the victims, as anyone would. But ITN isn't a newsticker. -- ]] 16:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::::@], please read ]. ] ] <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(])</sup></small></span> 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Weak oppose''' per Ad Orientem and Nfitz. Beyond deaths, special notability seems shaky. ] ] <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(])</sup></small></span> 03:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' on notability, '''oppose''' on quality. '''Wait''' until the article is not a stub to post it. ] (]) 06:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' The deadliest shooting since World War II is notable itsslf. Article looks better now.--] (]) 19:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::There is no indication this this is the deadliest shooting since "Workd War II (sic)". And this isn't stated in the article. ] (]) 19:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:::The government of Montenegro declared three days of mourning, which is a sign that this is a serious incident on national level. Furthermore, there's no reason why lives of Americans should be valued more than lives of Montenegrins as we already have a similar incident in New Orleans posted on the main page. After careful examination, there's indication that the opposition to this nomination on significance comes from editors who regularly support shootings in the US and complain about anti-American bias when they don’t succeed.--] (]) 20:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Please answer the question. I'm not sure what the USA has to do with this. The nomination is seriously flawed - that's the issue I have. ] (]) 21:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{reply|Nfitz}} You state that something isn’t the case without providing any evidence that proves the contrary. The ] you’re referring to had 11 deaths, which is clearly less than 13 deaths in this one. Moreover, there were no murders of Albanians in Montenegro during the 1990s. Montenegro was part of Yugoslavia whose authorities committed murders in Kosovo. You’re welcome to provide additional evidence if you don’t agree with it. There are reliable sources reporting this as ‘the greatest massacre’ in the history of Montenegro (see as an example), so you need to better elaborate your view that it’s not the case. After all, we typically don’t include such lines in the blurbs we post, so this is a relatively minor issue considering how the story is unfolding (there are three days of mourning, and a country-wide gun ban was proposed).--] (]) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::If you are say that there were no murders of Albanians (contrary to our own Encyclopaedia), I have concerns. My point here is that the article nowhere mentions that this is the deadliest shooting since Work War II, itsslf (sic). Surely, ], looking at the article makes that clear (at least at the time that posted). The deaths are indeed now higher than the other recent shooting in this town; I don't see the relevance to my comment. ] (]) 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::{{reply|Nfitz}} I think you should learn some geography and history before participating in such discussions with claims that what you don’t like is flawed (note first that Montenegro and Albania are different countries that haven’t been part of the same political entity over the past 100 years).--] (]) 07:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry, of Albanians. There's no reason to be rude, and for you to violate one of Misplaced Pages's most basic principles, just because I've correctly pointed out that the article didn't mention that it was the biggest shooting since World War II. ] (]) 09:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm not rude, just honest, and I wasn't bothered by your repeated sarcasm ("Workd War II (sic)"). Fair enough. Let's leave some room for others in this discussion.--] (]) 09:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I think the situation in New Orleans is significantly different than the situation in Montenegro. Namely, the one in New Orleans is a terrorist attack, while this is a domestic violence incident that became a spree shooting. Would you support posting a similar shooting that happened in the US? Personally, I would not. Also, please don't cast aspersions, I do not appreciate your insinuations. -- ]] 22:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{reply|Rockstone35}} Is there a specific Misplaced Pages policy that terrorist attacks should be assigned higher significance in ITN nominations? Innocent people died in both incidents, so the motives shouldn’t matter.--] (]) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{reply|Kiril Simeonovski}} there isn't a specific policy that we shouldn't include mass shootings in countries where they're common, and yet that's consistently what happens, so I don't know what your point is. If the motive doesn't matter, then neither should how often it happens or where. -- ]] 00:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::My point is that you cannot dismiss a shooting if it’s not a terrorist attack as we don’t have such policy. There are other indicators of notability, such as public response and policies. If there are days of mourning and proposals for country-wide gun ban, then it’s clear that this is a serious incident that affects the whole society.--] (]) 07:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::The main reason I opposed posting was because these types of shootings are routinely not posted if they happen in the US, despite the fact that they had the same number of deaths. -- ]] 15:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose on Quality'''. Significance seems to be there, but as many of noted, the article is fairly short. ] (]) 21:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - While the article would still benefit from expansion, it's just about sufficient. Despite the fact that Cetinje has had two of them in four years, shootings of this kind are generally very rare in Europe, and this is clearly more than noteworthy. I am not impressed by arguments attempting to differentiate the New Orleans killings from these by applying the politicised label of 'terrorism'; in a murder on this scale, the puported reason for the killings should not generally be a deciding factor in whether to post. ] (]) 23:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - As noted above, the article is short and could benefit from more people writing to expand it, but it is more than enough to understand the event. Regardless of whether Cetinje was unlucky enough to have two modern shootings, these shootings are still extraordinarily rare in Europe. I will also note that I do not understand why so many people have tried to argue on the semantics of the word ''terrorism'' when twelve people have died, and that to most of the world this and the New Orleans terrorist attack have equal relevance – I think there is very clear ] at display in this discussion. ] (]) 05:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:It isn't Americentricism, please don't cast aspersions. -- ]] 15:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support on notability; weak support on quality''' per GenevieveDEon and BochiBochiGalaxy. The article could and should be further expanded, but I think it conveys the basics of what happened sufficiently with some recent additions by editors. It is a landmark mass casualty event for a country that has caused a day of national mourning. The ripple effects of the shooting are also spurring a nationwide conversation about banning firearms. The call for gun reform are in turn attracting global news coverage, e.g. from to . Opposing votes have mentioned the attack being motivated by mental health or family issues, but I point out these were also motivations of the Sandy Hook or Aurora shooters in the USA, attacks which had a lasting impact and which we did post without question. A non-terror motive does not negate that it is an impactful event, with casualties, that is leading to global media coverage. ]]] ] 18:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - I'm changing my vote as the death toll has increased and I'm sold on the arguments of how rare such events are in Europe compared to other areas. Support blurb - I'm concerned the alt-blurb about WW2 is neither mentioned in the article, nor necessarily correct. ] (]) 20:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Do we have a consensus now? ] (]) 20:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Even though I opposed posting... I think we do have consensus. --]] 03:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::@] What is the consesus? ] (]) 03:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::@] that it ought to be posted. --]] 04:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::Then we need someone to ping an admin. ] (]) 04:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::@] can you please ping an admin ] (]) 05:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::::I'm not sure what the rules are regarding that so I'm not gonna risk it. You should mark this nom as (Ready) though ] (]) 05:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::::Fair enough, but someone needs to alert the administrators.; ] (]) 23:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support original blurb''' or a variation thereof. I'm not sure the comparison to World War II makes a lot of sense even were it factually accurate - certainly what larger massacres occurred in 1944 were of another nature than this one. This is bad enough on its own. ] (]) 21:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''', but with a rewritten blurb as we don't count perpetrators in the number of people killed. ''']]''' 22:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


====(Posted) 2025 New Orleans truck attack ====
* ]'s ''''']''''', a ] depicting his ] ] and her ], is sold in an auction for ]95 million, becoming one of the ]. (Still somewhat stubby at this time ....) -- ] 22:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC) tweaked at 00:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
{{ITN candidate
**I would say it probably belongs more in "Did You Know" than ITN, but others may disagree. --] 00:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
|article = 2025 New Orleans truck attack |image=700 block of Canal Street New Orleans.jpg
::*Good idea; as the article has developed significantly, I've just formally suggested this for DYK.--] 06:58, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
|blurb = 11 people are killed and 36 others are injured in ''']''' in ] ''(street pictured)''.
|altblurb = Eleven people are killed and thirty-six others are injured in a ''']''' in ] ''(intersection pictured)''.
|sources =
|nominator = Personisinsterest
}}
*{{Strikethrough|'''Wait''' on quality,}} '''support''' on notability. Going through some international news websites, this is the very top story on most of them and one of the top on all of them. {{Strikethrough|I think a bit more information is needed in the article, but it's a matter of time as new information comes in.}} ] (]) 13:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I, along with other users, have edited the article as more information has surfaced to the point where I believe that the article is of high enough quality. '''Support'''. ] (]) 17:55, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' We typically do not post shootings in the US due to their frequency, but I will note that the fact that they found improvised explosives in the truck and the suspect was wearing armored gear suggests this is more than a run of the mill shooting, very likely premeditated. Should at least wait until some more info on the motive (if they can figure it out, the driver was killed) --] (]) 14:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*:For what it's worth, this was more a vehicle attack than a shooting. ] (]) 15:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*: The article is called "car attack" (actually now "truck attack"), so it is puzzling why one would ignore that central aspect when assessing the article's notability. ] (]) 17:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' on quality and '''support without image''' for notability, however, the current image of just the street is, in my opinion, irrelevant. We don't need an image for every blurb. ] (]) 14:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*Use '''Terrorist attack''' instead of 'Car attack' if confirmed. ] (]) 15:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' quality is ok now. ] (]) 15:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support:''' This is the worst terrorist attack on American soil in years. ''']'''<sub>&nbsp;(]•])</sub> 15:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*:{{Ping|Personisinsterest}} Would you be able to change the link in your nomination to ]? The article has been renamed since you nominated it. ''']'''<sub>&nbsp;(]•])</sub> 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Got it! ] (]) 18:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Its the new year and a terrorist attack happened. ] (]) 17:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. Quality is fine given the amount of publicly available information. Notable based on high number of casualties for a vehicle-ramming attack. ] (]) 17:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Similar to the ] that was posted at couple weeks earlier. Even more dead though and with an ISIS flag, bombs and guns, this is not run-of-the-mill in any way. Quality is good considering the amount of info available at the moment. --]<sup>]</sup> 17:55, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' – ''']]''' 18:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*I somehow didn't get notifications for my prior discussion at Errors on whether to add things related to the Islamic State to the blurb, and it looks like the discussion was archived to the page history for not being an error, so I guess I'll discuss this here:<br>There's a lot of suspicion that the attack was done to further jihad and there's descriptions of a video in which the perpetrator pledges allegiance to the Islamic State the day of the attack. As such, I think we should modify the blurb to reflect this, maybe by adding the detail that the truck was attached with the jihadist flag of the Islamic State. ] (]) 20:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:{{@ITNA}} since there's no opposition, should consensus to mention the flag be assumed? ] (]) 17:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*::No, it’s detail best left to the article. ]] 19:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::But it's quite critical detail on the motivation. It makes it the biggest IS-brand extremism–fueled attack in years. Though either way, I guess it doesn't matter that much since it'll roll off in a few days. ] (]) 20:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


==== (Closed) 2025 Trump Tower fire ====
*] resigns as chairman of the ] Backbenchers Club in the ] of ], after a motion to refer a Member of Parliament implicated in a corruption scandal to the '']'' House Rights and Privileges Committee failed. (Both the corruption scandal and Shahrir's resignation were frontpaged in nearly all major national dailies.) ] | ] 03:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
{{atop|result=Withdrawn by nom. {{NAC}} <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 10px #ff0000, 1px 1px 10px #ccc; font-weight:bold; font-family:Century Gothic;"><i>🔥]]🔥</i></span> <small>]</small> 21:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)}}
{{ITN candidate
|article = 2025 Trump tower explosion |blurb = A cybertruck catches on fire near the Trump Tower with casulaties still unknown. |sources = https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-trump-tower-explosion-horror-34403879]|nominator = SimpleSubCubicGraph}}
*'''Oppose''' and topic ban ] from ITN. A car fire? And the sole source in the nomination is from a somewhat questionable tabloid list as ]. ] (]) 18:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*: Don't ]. <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 10px #ff0000, 1px 1px 10px #ccc; font-weight:bold; font-family:Century Gothic;"><i>🔥]]🔥</i></span> <small>]</small>
* '''Strong oppose''' ] - no casualties confirmed or reported yet, damage unclear but doesn't appear much, reporting is coming from inside the tower implying most inside are more or less safe but they're saying that ''the fire wasn't even at the tower.'' The "big story" is literal reporting on '']''. ] (]) 18:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
* '''Wow''' Great to see some serious sources wading in: , , and . ] (]) 18:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


:@] I assumed it was a terrorist attack given that another one happened in New Orleans just a few hours ago. ] (]) 18:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:* What's the Backbenchers Club? ]]] 03:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
{{abot}}
::*The official club for ]s; practically every non-cabinet MP from the government is in the club. ] | ] 10:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
* ''']''' is elected ] of the ] for a second time. -- ] 07:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


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(Closed) Yoav Gallant resigns from Israel parliament 2,663 2,663
January 1 119 119
(needs attention) RD: Jean-Michel Defaye 640 640
(Posted) RD: Ripken (dog) 1,088 1,088
RD: David Lodge 1,435 1,435
(Posted) RD: Wayne Osmond 1,432 1,432
(Closed) 2025 Trump International Hotel explosion 13,120 13,120
(Posted) Schengen Area expansion 6,355 6,355
RD: John B. O'Reilly Jr. 927 927
RD: Chad Morgan 724 724
(Posted) 2025 Cetinje shootings 21,341 21,341
(Posted) 2025 New Orleans truck attack 6,512 6,512
(Closed) 2025 Trump Tower fire 2,370 2,370
References 830 830
Total 182,868 182,868

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RD: Brian Matusz

Article: Brian Matusz (talk · history · tag)
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 – Muboshgu (talk) 02:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Ayla Erduran

Article: Ayla Erduran (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Turkish violinist who died on January 7. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

January 2025 Southern California wildfires

Proposed image Article: January 2025 Southern California wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Series of Wildfires in Southern California leaving thousands of people to evacuate, caused by a windstorm. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Wildfires in South California leaves thousands of people with no choice, but to evacuate
Alternative blurb II: ​ Historic Wildfire in South California
Alternative blurb III: ​ A series of wildfires erupt in Southern California, leaving 2 people dead and forcing at least 80,000 people to evacuate.
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/07/us/palisades-brush-fires-california
Credits:

 Thewetroadinsummer (talk) 12:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Strong oppose I wouldn’t even say the article is ready for main space. We also almost never post about wildfires. EF 00:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
I still strongly oppose. Wildfires routinely go over 30,000 acres (heck, we didn't even post about the 300k+-acre Park Fire last year), yet we don't post about those. Media is doomcasting the entire fire, and is highly exaggerating its impactsEF 18:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
@31.44.227.152: I don't think you can vote twice. EF 13:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Wait, did I? I don't recall voting on this prior and I don't see my name anywhere. Could you in that case merge this to my previous comment or link to the diff? 31.44.227.152 (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, nominators can't vote on their own ITNC (correct me if I'm wrong). EF 14:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Ooh, I see what you meant. I meant as nominator of altblurb3. Not as nominator of the article. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 14:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Ah. In that case, ignore my above comments. :) EF 14:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment Slight rewording and update of altblurb3 and including that two people died. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 18:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Wait, today is an extremely critical fire weather day for the area around this fire. This could be something worth posting if all the pieces fall into the right place, but we won't know until they do (or don't). 4 thousand acres burnt is routine, but what might not be is 4 thousand acres at 0% containment before a full extremely critical day (followed by another critical day). Departure– (talk) 14:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Strong oppose posting this right this second now. Up to 5000 acres (nearly 3000 for the Palisades fire) but nothing seems out of the ordinary. Just a few months ago we had the Mountain Fire (2024) at nearly 10,000 acres and that was seen as relatively uncommon, so 5000 acres across 2 seems routine at the moment. I also feel this is getting a lot of coverage for being near Los Angeles - again, I see that as routine and sensationalized in nature. Departure– (talk) 18:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose not a significant destruction or lives lost. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Wait until more details emerge. I was about to oppose but it turns out that this is still a rapidly developing story – as of this writing, the fires are still ongoing and 0% contained – and while it does seem to be "routine" for now, this has the potential to become one of, if not the largest series of wildfires for this particular part of California. Vida0007 (talk) 16:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Weak support Wildfires in California are common, but given the close proximity this fire is to LA (the second largest city in the U.S.) and how it's making global headlines, I am leaning to support this blurb. Article is also in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support - Massive news coverage of devastating fires with over a thousand structures destroyed and huge evacuations. Two confirmed deaths so far. Waiting for more confirmed deaths or further damage seems wrong to me. Opposers unconvincing. Altblurb 3 looks best. Jusdafax (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong support One of the most historical events in Californian wildlife history, destroyed thousands of properties. Should absolutely be posted. The most famous event in the news right now. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Bob Veale

Article: Bob Veale (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s):
Credits:
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Nominator's comments: Will add more sourcing – Muboshgu (talk) 18:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Peter Yarrow

Article: Peter Yarrow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Article is in pretty good shape, needs a handful of citations Mooonswimmer 17:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Note: only two sentences with {cn} tags remaining, one of which could easily be commented out or removed. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Jean-Marie Le Pen

Article: Jean-Marie Le Pen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BFM TV
Credits:
Article updated
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 Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Not yet ready , the article is quite confusing and contains uncredited statements. Newklear007 (talk) 12:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support: "Life and career" section needs to be shortened or split, otherwise support as he's a polarising figure that's defined French far-right politics. Tofusaurus (talk) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    • Recent deaths are not posted per importance of the person, but for being of a sufficient quality to post. One could make the equally objective claim that he should not be posted as he was the biggest loser in the history of presidential run-offs, and French far-right politics could not be "defined" by him as his party grew after his daughter kicked him out. With due respect to the dearly departed, I don't think anyone ever suggested that Ripken (dog) transformed any aspect of life on planet Earth. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment - a couple of the sections need more references, I've just tagged where. After that good to go, I'm not particularly bothered about the length of the "Life and Career" section, that's the meat of the article and as a whole it's hardly overlong. I would oppose a blurb, just in case anyone is thinking of proposing one! - he has been influential, but not on the level we'd usually blurb for.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support per above. Pre-emptively strongly oppose any suggestion of a blurb. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 16:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Not Ready for the usual reason. If the article can be brought up to scratch, I would give a weak support for a blurb. His influence on far right politics extended well beyond France. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Support I see no problems with the article. Also I would support a blurb, I can't think of any one individual with more of an impact on French Politics in the modern day than him. Scuba 19:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Support on significance, Neutral on quality. Three CNs. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

John Mahama

Proposed image Article: John Mahama (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ John Mahama (pictured) is sworn in as Ghana's President with Jane Naana Opoku-Agyemang is sworn in as the first female Vice-president of Ghana. (Post)
News source(s): Ghana Broadcasting Corporation
Credits:

 Heatrave (talk) 11:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose just because we didn't post the election doesn't mean we should break the norm and post the inauguration as a replacement. Scuba 19:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia (2024–present)

Consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 03:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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Article: HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia (2024–present) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ HMPV outbreak in Northeast Asia and partly in South Asia (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian BBC Daily mail The New York Times TOI Gulf news
Credits: Nominator's comments: hMPV-24 outbreak in Northeast Asia and partly in India (South Asia) Spworld2 (talk) 12:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose This seems to be fairly routine. The WHO statement explains: As expected for this time of year, the Northern Hemisphere winter, there is a month-over-month increase of acute respiratory infections, including seasonal influenza, R.S.V. and human metapneumovirus. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose This virus has existed since 2001 and had routine outbreaks in other parts of the world and per above. Rynoip (talk) 11:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It has not caused a large problem yet other than increasing worries that it may. Oppose. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 14:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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(Posted) 2025 Xizang earthquake

Article: 2025 Xizang earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Mw 7.1 earthquake hits Tingri County. located in the Tibet Autonomous Region leaving 9 dead. (Post)
News source(s): USGS BNO News Daily Guardian
Credits:

 The AP (talk) 03:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Temporary oppose on article quality - quite a short article. I understand there are minimal sources on it(rural area + happened a few hours ago + Chinese censorship stuff) but still.
Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Changing to Support; similar quality as Port Vila was when it was ITNed. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 05:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment Two 7.1 earthquakes just happened - the one in Tibet appears to be an aftershock of another earthquake the same day in Nepal. 9 fatalities across just the Tibet one seems low for an earthquake to be posted, but further updates may increase that figure. Departure– (talk) 04:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
USGS only shows one 7.1. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I was going off of the Daily Guardian article. I haven't checked its reliability for Misplaced Pages though, but it states there were two 7.1 magnitude earthquakes at 6:35 IST on 7 January, one at 28.86 N 87.51 E in Tibet, and another northeast of Lobuche. These might be the same but they're reported as two separate tremors. Departure– (talk) 04:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The death toll has also risen to 36. I don't know the time in China but by the time we get the article to ITN quality the true death toll will be more clear. Over 7000 rescue personnel tells me the final total might go into the low triple digits, but I'm not going to WP:CRYSTALBALL this one way or the other for now. Departure– (talk) 04:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

January 6

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RD: Charles M. Roessel

Article: Charles M. Roessel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
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Nominator's comments: Navajo photographer, journalist and academic administrator. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: John S. Hunkin

Article: John S. Hunkin (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: Former chief executive of the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce Tsc9i8 (talk) 17:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Indonesia BRICS

Article: BRICS (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Indonesia is officially made a full member state of BRICS (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:
Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Growing int'l supranational body. Pretty important. Sportsnut24 (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Not yet ready The article has multiple CN tags. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment – Could you please provide reliable sources indicating that Indonesia's admission into BRICS is "pretty important"? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 00:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
4th largest economy in the world.Sportsnut24 (talk) 00:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Indonesia is only the 16th largest nation worldwide by nominal GDP. By population, however, it is 4th worldwide. Departure– (talk) 00:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Here are some article about this news. Seems like Indonesia is now a full member state of BRICS. --IDB.S (talk) 02:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
BRICS is a large supranational body. Indonesia joining BRICS is comparable in notability to a country joining the EU. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The countries of the EU are far more integrated with each other than the countries of BRICS. I would not say they're comparable at all. The EU is like the US, BRICS is more like NAFTA. --Rockstone 08:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
BRICS is not even like NAFTA, it's a talking shop with perhaps some joint financial institutions. It's probably more similar to the examples Gotitbro mentions below. CMD (talk) 09:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Support Significant development for an interational body which has received increasing news coverage in recent years. While we should be assessing this item on its own merits if comaprisions are to be made (beyond the EU etc.) would we post if a new member became a part of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, Commonwealth of Independent States, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation etc. For me the answer is yes as expansion among large interational organizations is not frequent and is always major news (also highlighted by the fact that our country articles highlight these organizations in their leads). Gotitbro (talk) 08:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
And the article appears fine enough for ITN to me. Gotitbro (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
There's 100+ such organisations and I'm not convinced that changes are always significant. For example, see Accession of Timor-Leste to ASEAN. Notice that this is a full and well-developed article about that addition but that we haven't posted it. The lack of an article for this Indonesia matter seems telling. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
ASEAN (a major economic block) and Timor Leste is one I would support posting when the accession happens . 100+ such organisations may exist but do any of them receive the same coverage as this one?, especially its recent expansion has been under much dicussion, see for instance britannica. Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates all joined last year, and that oppurtunity to post was apparently missed twice: Misplaced Pages:In the news/Candidates/August 2023#BRICS Expansion and Misplaced Pages:In the news/Candidates/January 2024#BRICS Expansion with similar arguments based on the organization's politics rather than the significant news coverage of its expansion.
As for the last point, ITN does not demand the creation of separate articles and an absence of it may point towards a lack of enwiki editors from Indonedia or those interested in the subject rather than a lack of notability. Gotitbro (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Needs work The update seems perfunctory with no specific details of the politics and impact of this addition. And, it seems that there's a big bundle of countries in this latest wave: Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Thailand, Uganda, Uzbekistan. The different status of partner and full member seems opaque as the article says, "It is unclear whether the countries in this tier have received official membership invitations". Andrew🐉(talk) 08:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    Not sure whether that is an RS, but the article makes it apparent these 'partners' are akin to observer states. Indonesia is the only latest member, as this article from AP makes clear "Indonesia’s candidacy was endorsed by BRICS leaders in August 2023, according to the foreign ministry of Brazil, which holds the group’s presidency for 2025. However, the world's fourth most populous nation opted to formally join the bloc only after the formation of its newly elected government last year." Further "Last year, the alliance expanded to embrace Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia and the United Arab Emirates. Saudi Arabia has been invited to join but has not yet done so. ... Turkey, Azerbaijan and Malaysia have formally applied to become members and a few others have expressed interest." Gotitbro (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    The details seem vague because, as the article explains, "there is currently no formal application process to join BRICS". Per this source, "BRICS is an informal grouping, it has no founding treaty, secretariat supporting it or headquarters". Its effectiveness will thus depend on the quality of the rotating presidency. As it adds more minor countries, this will be increasingly volatile. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Strong Support on notability. Infer to others on quality of the article. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 14:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, a major nation joining a major economic sphere. I find it funny that people are saying the absolutely huge and generally very high-quality BRICS article having a few CN tags makes this not ITN-worthy. --SpectralIon (talk) 21:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose on notability BRICS is nothing like ASEAN, EU, NATO, AU or CARICOM. It's China's and Russia's little project to try and score some political allies and try to emulate successful supranational organisations but it has very little relevance politically or economically, mainly due to the fact China, Russia, India and Brazil are not on equal footing in economics nor political clout, and they often have wildly conflicting interests, never mind the smaller members who are only there to make up the numbers. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    You know you could say the same of Germany/France and the EU, or the US and NATO right ... Banedon (talk) 00:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
    You could not, both of those have strong systems of mutual obligation. CMD (talk) 05:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support per Gotitbro. An international organization does not need to be as developed as the EU, CARICOM, or ASEAN for membership to be newsworthy. The bar does not need to be that high, and countries making multilateral groupings is notable international diplomacy in its own right. CMD (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Resignation of Justin Trudeau

Proposed image Article: Resignation of Justin Trudeau (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Justin Trudeau (pictured) announces his resignation as the Prime Minister of Canada after serving in the role for nine years. (Post)
Alternative blurb II: ​ Justin Trudeau (pictured) announces his intention to resign as Prime Minister of Canada.
News source(s): Wall Street Journal
Credits:

 Major development in Canadian politics, leader for nine years. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 16:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

NOTE The linked page is currently at AfD and cannot be posted until that is resolved. The discussion should probably be suspended or closed pending the outcome of the AfD. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality only one line in the target about the resignation. We posted Biden not seeking re-election so I don't see why we shouldn't post Trudeau's resignation. Departure– (talk) 16:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Wait Obviously a significant story that a long-term head of government resigns like this, but will need the article to be expanded further before it's ready to post. Gust Justice (talk) 16:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Weak Support - very notable, large worldwide influence, but article quality not amazing.
Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support. We posted the last four British PMs' announcements of intent to resign, (Truss , Johnson , May , Cameron ) even though their system allows for leaderships to happen within days and/or weeks. In Canada, Trudeau will remain PM until a the party membership elects a new leader, which will take at least a couple months. The news is the announcement that is itself the culmination of a month long political crisis in the country. Both articles seem largely fine, with a paragraph about the resignation itself and sourced. Reactions will come, but the news is the resignation not reactions. ---- Patar knight - /contributions 17:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    To add to this, ALT2 should be used, since it is an intention to resign, not the actual resignation. -- Patar knight - /contributions 17:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    Given that there appears to be a growing consensus in support of posting this, and apparently this was done with more recent UK PMs, are we now going to routinely double post changes in administration? i.e. An announced resignation or intent to resign, and then the successor? -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    In this sort of circumstance, when the announcement and the change of office are significantly separate from each other in time, certainly. This is different from the installation of a new US president, which follows automatically in January after the November election, because there are two separate pieces of newsworthy content - the decision of Trudeau to resign, and the choice of his successor - which at this point we don't know. It would be a bit bizarre to stay silent on something that's unexpected front-page news across the globe, just because of the technicality that we know we're going to be back to post another update in a few weeks' time...  — Amakuru (talk) 17:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    The key bit in this case and the UK PMs cases is not the resignation in of it self, but doing so amidst an ongoing political crisis of some sort. I imagine that the precedent being set would not be for all resignation announcements of ITNR political officeholders, since some may be fairly "normal" (e.g. resigning for health reasons totally unconnected to any political scandal) though I would be in support of that. -- Patar knight - /contributions 22:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support ALT2 pretty much what the OP said. I would prefer the ALT2 blurb as it is worded a bit closer to the truth than the main blurb. IncompA 17:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Mostly Support Pretty big news but needs expansion but I doubt that will take very long. Allied Panzer (talk) 17:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose He literally could not hold power in office for much longer. He would be forced to step down in a few months, he just chose to do it right now. Also he will still remain in office for the duration of his tenure. Not that exciting, not that important. From canada's laws, this is was going to happen. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Not to mention his "resignation" speech was that he was stepping down soon, not officially quitting. So the media is just playing it up for no reason and wikipedians fall for it. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't see your point. The announcement of resignation (not in quotes, since he did actually state that he intended to resign) is major news, regardless of whether it happens now, or in a few months time. ARandomName123 (talk) 19:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Are you seriously trying to argue that a longtime leader of a major nation stepping down is not major news because it was “going to happen anyways?” The Kip 23:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Weak support mostly because he's been prime minister of a G7 country for a decade now, kinda like Merkel. Would like to point out though that if consensus is to post about future important resignations, WP:ITN/R should be updated accordingly—in part so we can actually define what an "important resignation" actually is. Yo.dazo (talk) 18:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose. No reason not to wait until the actual leadership change occurs. Yes, it is news now. It will also most certainly be news when the official transfer of power occurs. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, one reason—this might take something like three months based on the prorogation, and in all likelihood will receive consistently high coverage during all that time. It would be odd to only bring up Trudeau's resignation on ITN months after it actually happened, and months after it actually was news. Hence why, as mentioned above, similar blurbs have been posted before for UK prime ministers. Yo.dazo (talk) 19:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

pull he is not head of state to be ITNR and there is not new PM even. the election is a while way away. We should post the confirmation that trump was officially elected POTUS today.Sportsnut24 (talk) 22:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Isn't that contradictory User:Sportsnut24? And I thought we'd already ITNed the result of the US election. Nfitz (talk) 22:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
This is not being proposed as an ITNR item, and even in that case, the criteria for politicians at ITNR is holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government,, which for Canada, is the PM. The resignation itself is news. You are free to nominate the electoral vote count, but given that is usually routine that simply follows the November result, it will almost certainly not be posted. -- Patar knight - /contributions 22:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Nobody said anything about ITNR. RachelTensions (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Can you really call it a mere mistake when, as per Patar knight above, it's been consciously done four times already? It seems more like there's a new consensus now where certain types of resignation announcements can go on ITN. Yo.dazo (talk) 13:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

January 5

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RD: Al MacNeil

Article: Al MacNeil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Misplaced Pages article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former NHL player and Stanley Cup-winning coach. Article is in okay shape minus one CN tag. Kline • talk • contribs 16:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Mike Rinder

Article: Mike Rinder (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former spokesman for Scientology, and later outspoken critic of the church. Article is in surprisingly good shape with just one CN tag. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

82nd Golden Globe Awards

Proposed image Article: 82nd Golden Globe Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the 82nd Golden Globe Awards, Fernanda Torres (pictured) becomes the first Brazilian actress to win the award for Best Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama. (Post)
News source(s): Variety
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Nominator's comments: Unusual victory. Brazil is at the top. ArionStar (talk) 16:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose Golden Globes are not an ITNR)(I know it wasn't nominated as such) but if we are going to post any winners from these they should match the categories that we use for Oscars and Emmys, which are generally unremarkable this year. Fine tuning which specific category to feature so to highlight a first is not good use of ITN (what about Demi Moore's first major award, for example?) Masem (t) 16:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
    A Brazilian actress winning a major American production award is a remarkable event. Theoretically she had not chance against Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman and Pamela Anderson. ArionStar (talk) 18:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose, wasn't Anna Sawai the first Japanese to win the same category but for television at the same event? Being Brazilian doesn't make it extraordinary. (CC) Tbhotch 18:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose It is very difficult to imagine this kind of news getting widespread coverage as is required by WP:ITNSIGNIF. Yo.dazo (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment Was considering nominating Golden Globes myself, but the issue, in my opinion, is that it lacks "main" categories like the Best Picture and Best Actor/Actress to include in the blurb without it favoring a particular genre/format. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 19:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose on significance; these awards are much less influential than the Oscars, serving mostly as a hint of what might win those bigger prizes. We already have six different sets of film awards on ITNR and I don't think we need more, though I can see an argument that the Golden Globes have similar influence to BAFTAs. Oppose on quality - the article is a long series of tables with minimal prose and no reactions. Strong oppose the blurb as written, which focusses on the nationality of a single category winner. Modest Genius 21:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Joseph Bendounga

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Nominator's comments: Central African lawyer and politician, known for his eternal opposition to every presidential administration Faldi00 (talk) 06:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: The Vivienne

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 Tayce Widdrington (talk) 19:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Soft oppose. Prose looks to be well-cited, but discography and filmography need more refs. ForsythiaJo (talk) 19:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

*Oppose for now until the discography and filmography tables have more refs. Suonii180 (talk) 21:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC) - changed to support, everything looks referenced now. Suonii180 (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: S. A. Khaleque

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Nominator's comments: Bangladesh Nationalist Party politician History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Costas Simitis

Article: Costas Simitis (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: Former Greek Prime Minister Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Congestion pricing

Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 09:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Article: Congestion pricing in New York City (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ New York City becomes the first non-Eurasian city to fine driving in the central business district (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ New York City becomes the first non-Eurasian city to fine driving in the CBD
News source(s): Brazil Reuters AP UPI Fortune
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(Closed) Untitled Minecraft spiritual successor

Consensus will not develop to post. Closing early per WP:SNOW --Rockstone 06:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Article: Untitled Minecraft spiritual successor (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Markus "Notch" Persson announced that he will be making a spiritual successor to the original game, Minecraft. (Post)
News source(s): PC Gamer
Credits: Nominator's comments: I'm not sure if the blurb is good, but you can create an alternative blurb if you want. Bakhos Let's talk! 04:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose good-faith nomination per WP:CRYSTAL. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Strong oppose Minecraft 2 is one of very few non-award gaming events I would support a blurb on. Problem is, Notch can't make it ever since he sold the rights of the game to Microsoft. I might support it if it becomes the bestselling game of all time, but I don't know how likely it is for that to happen. Departure– (talk) 05:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose per Masem & MtPenguinMonster Hungry403 (talk) 05:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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RD: Richard B. Hays

Article: Richard B. Hays (talk · history · tag)
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News source(s): Religion News Service Christianity Today
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Nominator's comments: Died on the third but death announced January 4. Article needs some sourcing work, but I'm nominating anyway. Hopefully the nomination means that the article can get some attention. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Claude Allègre

Article: Claude Allègre (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: French politician and scientist TNM101 (chat) 12:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. Political career section is completely uncited, and some awards are missing sourcing as well. ForsythiaJo (talk) 19:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Political career section now updated with citations; scientific career and awards also updated and cited. Chaiten1 (talk) 22:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tomiko Itooka

Article: Tomiko Itooka (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: Japanese supercentenarian. Date death announced. TJMSmith (talk) 15:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

 Comment: Noting that I should not receive creation credit (if that's a thing at ITN) as I only created the page as a redirect and did not edit beyond that. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) 18:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Updated! TJMSmith (talk) 23:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment Tomiko Itooka was the oldest living person as well at the time of her death, and we've generally posted these supercentenarian when they are at the top. Although, its not there yet. TheCorriynial (talk) 16:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024–25 Ethiopian earthquakes

A consensus to post at this point will not develop. Consider nominating again if this becomes bigger. --Tone 12:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Article: 2024–25 Ethiopian earthquakes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Signs of a volcanic eruption appears in Awash Fentale in Afar Region. (Post)
News source(s): Al Alarabiya English, BBC News
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RD: Yusuf Bhamjee

Article: Yusuf Bhamjee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2025-01-03-tributes-pour-in-for-former-pmb-mayor-and-champion-of-service-delivery-yusuf-bhamjee/
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Nominator's comments: Former anti-apartheid activist, mayor and member of parliament  Lefcentreright  Discuss  06:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Jeff Baena

Article: Jeff Baena (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: American screenwriter and film director. TJMSmith (talk) 16:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Zero footnotes in the Filmography section (thus looks like a block of unsourced materials, making the wikiarticle a poor candidate to put on MainPage). If footnotes are readily available from the prose, why aren't they re-deployed in the tables? The tables included Cinema Toast, but this title cannot be found in the prose. --PFHLai (talk) 04:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Honestly, when it comes to creators rather than actors, refs are rarely included in the tables. Cell-fill templates are generally used for yes/no, so refs can't be put in the individual columns, which would necessitate a separate column for (in this case) up to three refs. Why repeat when the information is available in prose; it's not a V issue to 'duplicate' sourced prose in diagram format, so to say it should just for MP when FA/FL/DYK don't require it is surely just your opinion. Fair point about Cinema Toast, I had just been looking at the film table. Kingsif (talk) 05:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Why not add the reference to the title cell in the table? 31.44.227.152 (talk) 12:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
IDK, style preference? But you can if you want. Kingsif (talk) 21:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 PDC World Darts Championship

Proposed image Article: 2025 PDC World Darts Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In darts, Luke Littler (pictured) wins the 2025 PDC World Darts Championship. (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport The Guardian
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Nominator's comments: ITNR sporting final. OZOO (t) (c) 22:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Aren't all tables under the "Schedule" section violations of MOS:COLHEAD? Would this hinder it being posted? Howard the Duck (talk) 23:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
MOS issues are generally a yellow "cleanup" tag issue, which doesn't prevent this from running, as only orange tags do. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Trying to change them to fit but I'm not experienced with it and don’t know how to make the evening session bit work like it should. JamesVilla44 (talk) 23:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Schedules should follow now, right? JamesVilla44 (talk) 14:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes it should but there's something freaky on the table label showing the date on the show/hide function. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Britt Allcroft

Article: Britt Allcroft (talk · history · tag)
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News source(s): Evening Standard
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Nominator's comments: Date death announced. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 16:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Devastating eruption located

SNOW closing (volcanic winter snow?), since there is a clear consensus that this will not get posted. If expanded enough, DYK is a good alternative. --Tone 14:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Proposed image Article: Zavaritski Caldera (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The site of the volcanic eruption (pictured) which caused blue suns and global famine has been identified. (Post)
News source(s): AAAS, Jerusalem Post
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Article updatedNominator's comments: A long-standing mystery has been solved. There's still work to do on expanding the article and updating related topics such as Graham Island and Little Ice Age volcanism. Those who measure significance by deaths should note that the resulting famines such as the Tenpō famine caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose the blurb: Average reader would not understand what is this even about, at least in first few glances. Blue suns? Should be wikilinked, googling it gives weird things. Which global famine(s)? Too vague. If it is about some 1831 global climate catastrophe, does Misplaced Pages have an article about or related to it? Googling 'Zavaritski Caldera' on news tab currently only serves one news item by daily mail. It should first be reported by few major general news media outlets so that we may 'it is in news'. I don't say it is not interesting, but very confusing. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 11:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
The meteorological use of Blue sun doesn't have an article, but it probably could, there's enough material out there i.e. . Meanwhile, the article is a stub and I don't see it significantly in the news at the moment. Black Kite (talk) 12:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I was working on getting this started but got an edit conflict. Will leave it for now but my impression is that there's lots of work to be done around this. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose: the article is still a stub, and the blurb is not clear for non-initiated readers. Cambalachero (talk) 13:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose Using the Little Ice Age article as a reference, there's multiple volcanic events that contributed to the changing climate from 1600-1900, and while discovering one of the sources is of scientific interest, this is not as key a breakthrough as the blurb seems to want to suggest. --Masem (t) 13:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose due to target article length/overall quality and a far too vague blurb for the average reader. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 13:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This is a proposed (unconfirmed) interpretation of an event that happened in 1831. It's a mildly interesting result but has no major impact. I don't think this reaches the level of significance or broad interest that would merit an ITN blurb. In addition, the article is a stub with a single reference. We don't seem to have any article about the 1831 atmospheric phenomena, just a single bullet point in Little_Ice_Age_volcanism#1809–1831 - an indication that the event wasn't particularly influential or historically significant. Modest Genius 14:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Tariana Turia

Article: Tariana Turia (talk · history · tag)
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News source(s): RNZ, The NZ Herald
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Nominator's comments: Co-founder of Te Pāti Māori MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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RD: Louis Schittly

Article: Louis Schittly (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: French physician and humanitarian. One of the founders of Médecins Sans Frontières. Death reported 2 January. Thriley (talk) 17:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Buddy MacKay

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Nominator's comments: American politician, governor of Florida for three weeks (1998–99), dies at age 91. Davey2116 (talk) 04:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wilhelm Brückner (luthier)

Article: Wilhelm Brückner (luthier) (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: German luthier in Erfurt. He worked until 90 in his workshop. Grimes2 (talk) 18:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Rosita Missoni

Article: Rosita Missoni (talk · history · tag)
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News source(s): The Guardian, NY Times
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Nominator's comments: Italian knitwear designer. With her husband Ottavio Missoni, she co-founded Italian luxury fashion house Missoni. Death reported 2 January. Thriley (talk) 19:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Ján Zachara

Article: Ján Zachara (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Vo veku 96 rokov zomrel bývalý slovenský boxer a olympijský víťaz Ján Zachara". Denník N (in Slovak). 2 January 2025. "Legendary boxer Ján Zachara passed away". rtvs.sk. Retrieved 2025-01-02.
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Nominator's comments: 1952 Olympic gold medalist, died on the same day as another 1952 gold medalist (Ágnes Keleti) Di (they-them) (talk) 16:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ágnes Keleti

Article: Ágnes Keleti (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: The oldest living Olympian in history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.44.118.57 (talk) 07:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Second and and third citation above from Spworld2 (talk · contribs)'s duplicate nomination. His comment was
Ágnes Keleti has died, at the age of 104 , Hungarian Olympic champion, gymnast and Sportswoman. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 09:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment Actually, she wasn't the oldest at the time of her death. Both Yvonne Chabot-Curtet and Iris Cummings were older then Ágnes Keleti. She was the oldest living champion, however. But its almost there, the article. TheCorriynial (talk) 10:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Support, she's a notable Hungarian athlete who not only won 10 Olympic medals, but was also inducted into the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, the Hungarian Sports Hall of Fame, the International Women's Sports Hall of Fame, and the International Gymnastics Hall of Fame. Di (they-them) (talk) 16:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • This is a recent deaths nomination, and so as per the notice, only the article quality should be considered (every person with an article is eligible to be nominated). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Procedural oppose as per WP:DENY. The nominator is blocked for sockpuppetry/block evasion, so we shouldn't be supporting that by allowing this nomination of theirs. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
    If they verifiably died, they qualify. It doesn't help readers in this case to DENY. Per the WP:EVASION policy: This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor (changes that are obviously helpful, such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism, can be allowed to stand), but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert.—Bagumba (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Article is in quality to post. Armbrust 22:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support denying a non-offending article's RD eligibility just because it so happened to be initially nominated by a sockpuppet account is a bad precedent to set. It sends a message that if you really dislike someone and don't want them to be memorialized, the solution is for you to quickly create a sockpuppet account and push out an RD nom, so that the target article is never allowed on the main page. The article is well sourced and ready. FlipFlopped ツ 20:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Joseph2302, WP:BMB applies here. Rewarding a banned editor by posting this will only encourage more sockpuppetry. This should be closed and an editor in good standing can renominate. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    How about simply withholding the ITN nom credit template? No need to close and renominate the same candidate. -- PFHLai (talk) 17:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
    Looks like that's what Stephen has done.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Yoav Gallant resigns from Israel parliament

This won't gain consensus. Schwede66 19:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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Proposed image Article: Yoav Gallant (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yoav Gallant, member of the Israel Parliament (pictured), resigns at the age of 66, after being fired in November. (Post)
News source(s): NDTV The Times Of Israel
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(needs attention) RD: Jean-Michel Defaye

Article: Jean-Michel Defaye (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: Versatile French composer, pianist, arranger, conductor, - awards when young but only a short obit now that he died at age 92. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ripken (dog)

Article: Ripken (dog) (talk · history · tag)
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Nominator's comments: Baseball retrieval dog History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: David Lodge

Article: David Lodge (author) (talk · history · tag)
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News source(s): Euronews
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Nominator's comments: British author and critic. 240F:7A:6253:1:3531:2BB0:7F04:241F (talk) 02:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wayne Osmond

Article: Wayne Osmond (talk · history · tag)
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 The AP (talk) 08:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2025 Trump International Hotel explosion

Consensus to post will not develop. (non-admin closure) 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 08:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Proposed image Article: Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ One person is killed and seven others are injured when a Tesla Cybertruck explodes (pictured) outside of the Trump International Hotel Las Vegas in Paradise, Nevada, United States. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times BBC ABC News
Credits:  Spworld2 (talk) 09:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Djprasadian (talk) 11:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, Vice President Elect Musk has "broken silence" to reassure us that Tesla Cybertrucks are perfectly safe. But he is still alive. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
The police are saying this is likely a Suicide. I'm horrified that people keep recreating the article and reopening the discussion, when this was pretty obviously a good likelihood at the time this discussion was reopened! Close this abortion now. Nfitz (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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(Posted) Schengen Area expansion

Article: Schengen Area (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Romania and Bulgaria join the Schengen Area, the European passport-free zone. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Romania and Bulgaria join the Schengen Area and lift land border checks.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Romania and Bulgaria both become full members of the Schengen Area.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Romania and Bulgaria both become full members of the Schengen Area by removing land border checks, seven months after their initial admission.
News source(s): CNN, Reuters
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Support, I would argue that any changes to the composition of the Schengen Area are inherently relevant as the largest area with free movement in the world, and for years it has been a major topic of discussion here in the European Union that Romania and Bulgaria were the last EU members to not have been admitted (excl. Ireland who have an opt-out) because of a veto from Austria in the Council of the European Union. So it was very significant when the vote finally passed last month in the Justice and Home Affairs Council.
However, that wording is probably not ideal—in a legal sense, Romania and Bulgaria joined the Schengen Area on 31 March 2024 when border controls were lifted for air and sea travel. The news are that land border checks have also just been lifted, granting the countries full participation on the same level as all other 27 member states.
So I would propose re-phrasing the blurb to something like Romania and Bulgaria become full members of the Schengen Area, with land border checks lifted on 1 January 2025.
BochiBochiGalaxy (talk) 05:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Support, but agree with BochiBochiGalaxy, so also added altblurb 1. Yo.dazo (talk) 10:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Support on notability This is a major change in international policy. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Support ALT1 as a major change in policy that is in the news, so meets WP:ITNSIGNIF. And target article has enough information about this event to pass WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose - 2 nations joining the Schengen isn't that exciting. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 20:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
NB: Since I made the above post, the blurbs have been edited by another user to be more verbose than they were previously. I liked the conciseness of alt2, which is why I voted for it. The current alt2 is not what I voted for; I would support the original blurb in preference to it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 00:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@GenevieveDEon: I've restored altblurb2 and moved the appended altblurb2 to a new altblurb since it was significantly appended by another editor without my knowledge. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 02:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: John B. O'Reilly Jr.

Article: John B. O'Reilly Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s):
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Misplaced Pages article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 6th mayor of Dearborn, Michigan. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

  • In its current form, the article isn't ready. Date and place of birth are unreferenced. There is absolutely nothing about his early life, education, or work history. Schwede66 19:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Chad Morgan

Article: Chad Morgan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-02/chad-morgan-australian-country-music-singer-dies/104778248
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Australian comedy country music performer known as "The Sheik of Scrubby Creek". HiLo48 (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Cetinje shootings

Article: 2025 Cetinje shootings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thirteen people including the perpetrator are killed and four others are injured in spree shootings in Cetinje, Montenegro. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Thirteen are killed in spree shootings in Cetinje, Montenegro. The shootings are the deadliest in Montenegro since 1944 during Nazi occupation.
News source(s):
Credits:
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality Quite similar in scope as the 2022 Cetinje shooting, also taking place in Cetinje. Removed mention of terrorism in the blurb as it's not in the source beyond the involvement of counter-terrorist government agencies. The second shooting targeted the restaurant owner's family. Departure– (talk) 22:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Departure– Changed it once more to deadliest shooting in Montenegro since 1944. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
That's almost certainly not relevant. "Deadliest since X" isn't needed in a blurb. Departure– (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Departure– Please clarify if I am wrong but doesn't blurb mean short description? SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Blurbs are almost always a single sentence and typically don't contain context in the blurb. For instance, we wouldn't have the second sentence read "Shootings in Montenegro are rare due to strict gun laws" either - that can be implied from the source or the article. Departure– (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
I turned SSCG's changes into an altblurb. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
There is no indication this this is the deadliest shooting since "Workd War II (sic)". And this isn't stated in the article. Nfitz (talk) 19:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
The government of Montenegro declared three days of mourning, which is a sign that this is a serious incident on national level. Furthermore, there's no reason why lives of Americans should be valued more than lives of Montenegrins as we already have a similar incident in New Orleans posted on the main page. After careful examination, there's indication that the opposition to this nomination on significance comes from editors who regularly support shootings in the US and complain about anti-American bias when they don’t succeed.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Please answer the question. I'm not sure what the USA has to do with this. The nomination is seriously flawed - that's the issue I have. Nfitz (talk) 21:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Nfitz: You state that something isn’t the case without providing any evidence that proves the contrary. The 2022 Cetinje shooting you’re referring to had 11 deaths, which is clearly less than 13 deaths in this one. Moreover, there were no murders of Albanians in Montenegro during the 1990s. Montenegro was part of Yugoslavia whose authorities committed murders in Kosovo. You’re welcome to provide additional evidence if you don’t agree with it. There are reliable sources reporting this as ‘the greatest massacre’ in the history of Montenegro (see this as an example), so you need to better elaborate your view that it’s not the case. After all, we typically don’t include such lines in the blurbs we post, so this is a relatively minor issue considering how the story is unfolding (there are three days of mourning, and a country-wide gun ban was proposed).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
If you are say that there were no murders of Albanians (contrary to our own Encyclopaedia), I have concerns. My point here is that the article nowhere mentions that this is the deadliest shooting since Work War II, itsslf (sic). Surely, User:Kiril Simeonovski, looking at the article makes that clear (at least at the time that posted). The deaths are indeed now higher than the other recent shooting in this town; I don't see the relevance to my comment. Nfitz (talk) 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@Nfitz: I think you should learn some geography and history before participating in such discussions with claims that what you don’t like is flawed (note first that Montenegro and Albania are different countries that haven’t been part of the same political entity over the past 100 years).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, of Albanians. There's no reason to be rude, and for you to violate one of Misplaced Pages's most basic principles, just because I've correctly pointed out that the article didn't mention that it was the biggest shooting since World War II. Nfitz (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm not rude, just honest, and I wasn't bothered by your repeated sarcasm ("Workd War II (sic)"). Fair enough. Let's leave some room for others in this discussion.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I think the situation in New Orleans is significantly different than the situation in Montenegro. Namely, the one in New Orleans is a terrorist attack, while this is a domestic violence incident that became a spree shooting. Would you support posting a similar shooting that happened in the US? Personally, I would not. Also, please don't cast aspersions, I do not appreciate your insinuations. -- Rockstone 22:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Rockstone35: Is there a specific Misplaced Pages policy that terrorist attacks should be assigned higher significance in ITN nominations? Innocent people died in both incidents, so the motives shouldn’t matter.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Kiril Simeonovski: there isn't a specific policy that we shouldn't include mass shootings in countries where they're common, and yet that's consistently what happens, so I don't know what your point is. If the motive doesn't matter, then neither should how often it happens or where. -- Rockstone 00:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
My point is that you cannot dismiss a shooting if it’s not a terrorist attack as we don’t have such policy. There are other indicators of notability, such as public response and policies. If there are days of mourning and proposals for country-wide gun ban, then it’s clear that this is a serious incident that affects the whole society.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
The main reason I opposed posting was because these types of shootings are routinely not posted if they happen in the US, despite the fact that they had the same number of deaths. -- Rockstone 15:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose on Quality. Significance seems to be there, but as many of noted, the article is fairly short. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support - While the article would still benefit from expansion, it's just about sufficient. Despite the fact that Cetinje has had two of them in four years, shootings of this kind are generally very rare in Europe, and this is clearly more than noteworthy. I am not impressed by arguments attempting to differentiate the New Orleans killings from these by applying the politicised label of 'terrorism'; in a murder on this scale, the puported reason for the killings should not generally be a deciding factor in whether to post. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support - As noted above, the article is short and could benefit from more people writing to expand it, but it is more than enough to understand the event. Regardless of whether Cetinje was unlucky enough to have two modern shootings, these shootings are still extraordinarily rare in Europe. I will also note that I do not understand why so many people have tried to argue on the semantics of the word terrorism when twelve people have died, and that to most of the world this and the New Orleans terrorist attack have equal relevance – I think there is very clear U.S.-centrism at display in this discussion. BochiBochiGalaxy (talk) 05:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    It isn't Americentricism, please don't cast aspersions. -- Rockstone 15:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support on notability; weak support on quality per GenevieveDEon and BochiBochiGalaxy. The article could and should be further expanded, but I think it conveys the basics of what happened sufficiently with some recent additions by editors. It is a landmark mass casualty event for a country that has caused a day of national mourning. The ripple effects of the shooting are also spurring a nationwide conversation about banning firearms. The call for gun reform are in turn attracting global news coverage, e.g. from the Washington Post to the Toronto Star. Opposing votes have mentioned the attack being motivated by mental health or family issues, but I point out these were also motivations of the Sandy Hook or Aurora shooters in the USA, attacks which had a lasting impact and which we did post without question. A non-terror motive does not negate that it is an impactful event, with casualties, that is leading to global media coverage. FlipFlopped ツ 18:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support - I'm changing my vote as the death toll has increased and I'm sold on the arguments of how rare such events are in Europe compared to other areas. Support blurb - I'm concerned the alt-blurb about WW2 is neither mentioned in the article, nor necessarily correct. Nfitz (talk) 20:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    Do we have a consensus now? SpectralIon (talk) 20:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    Even though I opposed posting... I think we do have consensus. --Rockstone 03:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Rockstone35 What is the consesus? SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 03:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    @SimpleSubCubicGraph that it ought to be posted. --Rockstone 04:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    Then we need someone to ping an admin. SpectralIon (talk) 04:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    @SpectralIon can you please ping an admin SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    I'm not sure what the rules are regarding that so I'm not gonna risk it. You should mark this nom as (Ready) though SpectralIon (talk) 05:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    Fair enough, but someone needs to alert the administrators.; SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 23:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Support original blurb or a variation thereof. I'm not sure the comparison to World War II makes a lot of sense even were it factually accurate - certainly what larger massacres occurred in 1944 were of another nature than this one. This is bad enough on its own. Khuft (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Posted, but with a rewritten blurb as we don't count perpetrators in the number of people killed. Schwede66 22:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 New Orleans truck attack

Proposed image Article: 2025 New Orleans truck attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 11 people are killed and 36 others are injured in a vehicle-ramming and shooting attack in New Orleans, Louisiana (street pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Eleven people are killed and thirty-six others are injured in a vehicle-ramming and shooting attack in New Orleans, Louisiana (intersection pictured).
News source(s):
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(Closed) 2025 Trump Tower fire

Withdrawn by nom. (non-admin closure) 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 21:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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Article: 2025 Trump tower explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A cybertruck catches on fire near the Trump Tower with casulaties still unknown. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-trump-tower-explosion-horror-34403879]
Credits:
@Nfitz I assumed it was a terrorist attack given that another one happened in New Orleans just a few hours ago. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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