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==Inadequate article?== |
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As someone who is shopping for, and consequently bewildered by, web portal software on the less than corporate enterprise level, I find this article inadequate in that it does not address this wide array of software that is out there, nor is there a link or disambiguation (Word is too complex) to these other forms (soopportal.org, web wiz forums, maxwebportal extreme, etc) of web portal. I would glady do an article myself, but clearly I'm not ready. I, and I suspect others, need someone more knowledgeable to at least start the ball rolling here. Please? Thanx. :-)] 18:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)</math>(database) that will drive all the processes (paperwork). |
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:::- If the Portal is accessible using only a web browser, the company could save millions of dollars because they would never need client/server ]... just browsers. |
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:::- I've used the Portal is a House speech many times... let me know if it helps you better understand. ] (]) 11:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Criticisms == |
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It would be nice to have a criticisms section for this article (and most articles on Misplaced Pages in general), from both the POV of the end user, and the POV of startups that have ideas that should be independent of portals but which are bought out by portals.] (]) 14:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC) |
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Agreed. there was a reason that portals fell from favour, and I was rather hoping that this page could offer me some links to analysis around this. |
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] (]) 09:02, 9 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== not neutral: Java centric. == |
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This is a well written articlns of it should be in a links section or an example section. |
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] 13:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC) |
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:I find no point-of-view asserted here. Please see ] regarding the use of the <nowiki>{{NPOV}}</nowiki> tag. If it being Java centric is concerned, then I invite you to expand the article to cover portals made in other languages. Thanks! -- ] ] 01:34, 24 November 2005 (UTC) |
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::If the no point-of-view policy is about unbiased articles, then your correction is not good. The article is biased towards only one technology, implying that a web portal can only be made from Java technologies. The article should be language neutral in defining what a portal is. I will take you up on your invitation and see if I can write something acceptable. I know it is not an easy thing. I will see about it over the weekend.-- ] 13:07, 24 November 2005 (UTC) |
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I'm a developer. Any room for my opinion? Ok great... perhaps Portals ought to be defined by the cultures they create? ] (]) 16:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Official statement from a student of Jakob Nielsen == |
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* A 'portal' refers to a location on the World Wide Web while a 'Wikiportal' should refer to 'Wikiportals' here on Misplaced Pages. The 'portal' use confuses users. Let us clarify this as soon as possible. I suggest 'portal' designers begin their conversion to 'wikiportal' immediately. I should know. Like Al Gore, I built the Internet. Ha! Anyway, I have started the switch to Wikiportals with the new ] which you can find here ''Sincerely, ] 22:39, 3 December 2005 (UTC)'' |
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Well, what about the fact that a Wiki can be a small part of a portal? ] (]) 16:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
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==Vortal?== |
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'''Vortal''' redirects here. What is a vortal? The word doesn't occur here even though it redirects here. ] 17:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:Vortal was, for a short time in the 90s, used to describe a "vertical portal". I don't know if any of those still exists, but the idea was to gather links to businesses in a certain field and maybe let them share information with each other. --] 13:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC) |
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Try this link to an explanation of Vortals... |
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] (]) 11:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Here's another link... |
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] (]) 19:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== citation == |
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There's only one citation (Bauer, H. H., M. Hammerschmidt, and T. Falk) -- should I presume that the citation was the source of this information? |
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"Some corporate analysts have predicted that corporate intranet Web portal spending will be one of the top five areas for growth in the Internet technologies sector during the first decade of the 21st century." |
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There's Web Portals -- generic term for a type of web application -- and there's Portal Servers, which is a type of enterprise software meant to help set up websites that are Web Portals. I am thinking these should be two different articles. |
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== List of examples needed == |
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I added a list of examples to the Web portal article because I do believe the article is missing examples. But someone reverted it. Why can't there be a list with examples? |
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I think it would be very helpful to people trying to understand what a web portal is, if they could see some examples of the kind of sites this article talks about. The list I added was a generic list, not adverticing any portal in specific. And I did try to be as objective as possible and list different kinds of portals (PHP, ASP and .Net). |
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I have also now read up on the policies that applies for editing since I thought I had done something wrong, and was wondering what that could be. And I found that to give some examples in the article to clarify what the article is about does not breake any rules or policies what so ever, so, when honest objective and correct editing isn't welcome, well then, this was my first and last edit and I truely couldn't care less if you block me because I will not visit this place again since it's obviously a waste of time. |
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] 15:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC) |
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: I agree. Some mention should also be made of the web portal software, such as ], which allows people to create a portal for their site. The relationship between web ] and portals should be discussed (portals are often powered by CMS's). I dont want to write this - I have little experience of portal design not incoporating a CMS - wouldn't be NPOV, but if anyone has any suggestions? 12:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC) |
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Perhaps instead of looking at the different types of technology powering Portals, we ought to be looking at the different cultures that revolve around portals. A portal could be defined by the type of 'culture' communicating under the digital roof of a Portal? For instance... Family WebPortals, Business Portals, Church Portals, Community Portals, etc. ] (]) 11:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Well, I cannot contribute to the discussion because I am trying to learn the terminology. What is the difference between a web portal and a search engine? I think examples might help a neophyte like me. That information is what I wanted from this article.] 01:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Well.. how about Misplaced Pages? I mean seriously. I think we have to be careful of not catering to one kind or brand of portal in this article. This is a summary article. An article on a specific kind of portal should have some examples perhaps. ] 17:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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I have a whack of here... but I do this for a living... so folks might want to delete this... ] (]) 16:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Toned down the advert-y nature of the NICUSA reference in the government articles. == |
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Statements like " the most successful company in this area" do not belong in an an encyclopedia article unless their is lots of back source material and statistics . I also took out the funding model statements because that funding model is one of many (and there fore inappropriate to single out - again advertising) and would not work for many government portals like education for instance. (my area of expertise). |
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Happy to discuss this with anyone... ] 17:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Corporate Portal and Enterprise Portal the same? == |
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Reading this page I find the paragraph on Corporate Portal covers similar topics as the page on ]s. |
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I suggest to replace Corporate Portal by Enterprise Portal and to condense the content of this article to a short introduction linking to the full page on enterprise portals. |
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Also on the disambiguation page on ]s, the notion of web portal is linked with enterprise portal as a sub-notion and not Corporate Portal. |
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Although we could consider and Enterprise Portal as one of the technology platform/component to enable a Corporate Portal... |
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Regards |
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] 08:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC) |
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:I agree!!! ] 17:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== 하나님 사랑해요 ♡ == |
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하나님 사랑합니다 ㅎㅎ <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Portals and such == |
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Portals......they are just webpages. Why make things so "wordy". It's similar to when they came out with "e-furstructure" --] (]) 18:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:From the point of view of an end-user you're right. A portal is just a website. However the technology behind the website is different. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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First mention what is portal. Then you have to start about web portal. - |
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"If you want the other meaning of portal, click the disambiguation link near the title. |
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I agree that some of these topics, the 'Sportal' especially, sound just like a website. A traditional web portal offers more than just information and usually not so specific as to limit the types of media. You can only show so much about one sports team, unless they have lots of info, pics and vids, plus classifieds to sell memorabilia, offer @whateverteam.com email addresses, upcoming and season ticket sales and perhaps up to date weather in the cities they're playing. They'd have to have a lot of different things to get away with calling it a 'web portal' as compared to a website. Not to mention linking to the team's official and fan sites. After all a portal isn't a website, it's not supposed to have it's own opinion or any topical information. |
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Web portals typically either send you to other websites where you find the information or physical products that you want (vis-a-vis a search engine) or they take the info from other sites in the background and inject it into their page so it looks like they know everything (like file search and warez sites). Calling it a portal assumes that you are going through it to get data elsewhere." ] (]) 21:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Web porm other sites or sending people other sites. For example, educational portal - current students can use it to enroll in their classes, prospective students can use it to apply for admission, professors use it to push videos, notes, power points, and assignments out to the class. The study groups have messages boards where they can work on their projects. There is chat and private messaging to encourage collaboration. ] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Think. A web portal or an internet portal is a web page that contains a number of elements that may be desired in a "start page." Saying they are "just web pages" is like saying we shouldn't have a word processing page because that is just software... I am surprised that we can't simply describe the type of page that is classified as a web portal/internet portal (wow, no good single definition) and give examples and references. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Portal hosting references OK anywhere? == |
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Is there an appropriate place in this or any similar web portal article to list links to hosting providers? Under External Links or the Hosted Portals section without having it considered as spam? |
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== This article does not really define "portal" == |
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I came to this page to find out what exactly a portal is. I'm in my early twenties, and did not start really using the Internet until relatively late in the game. I remember the word being thrown around by friends/parents' friends in the mid-nineties, but not what it refers to, and can never remember using one. From this article, I am only clear on what brands/corporations/services may or may not carry/have/be portals, and a portal timeline, but not what they are to begin with. Is anyone more clear on this that could improve on this aspect of the article? |
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] (]) 06:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:I have tried to clarify it in the opening sentences. Please review. ] (]) 09:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC) |
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== vague, but widely used by management in IT, so first, improve SEE ALSO == |
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SEE ALSO ] ] |
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SEE ALSO should have Dashboard, Mashup, RIA, Web 2.0 |
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There have been serious issues for those whose "portal" required Java browser plugin (2013) and near future for those who relied on Silverlight for an RIA-style portal. HOw hany large corps opted for AIR or JavaFX ? |
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My expertise was in Curl (www.curl.com) and Smalltalk (generating JavaScript) for portals spI will try to help clarify with historical examples from large US Fortune 200 corps and global Fortune 100's |
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G. Robert Shiplett 11:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC) |
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