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{{collapse top|After several months of being blocked you have yet to come up with a convincing unblock request, yet you continue to engage in silly conflicts over the content of your talk page. Babysitting you is a waste of our administrative resources and so I have revoked your ability to edit this page. If you wish to appeal further you may contact ] by email. ] (]) 18:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)}}


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== A belated welcome! == == Blocked indefinitely ==


{{unblock reviewed | 1=original unblock reason | decline=I am operating on the assumption that you want the conversation below to serve as your unblock request, in which case the answer is quite easily no. "I learned my lesson, because I didn't do it anyway" is not going to get you unblocked. You consistently engaged in various types of disruptive editing despite being repeatedly blocked for it, you endlessly wiki-lawyer when confronted about it, and you take a "battleground approach" to pretty much everything. Unless and until you can give some guarantee that all these behaviors will permanently cease you can expect to remain blocked. I would add that there is a finite number of times you will be allowed to appeal this way and given your track record I wouldn't expect a lot of leeway in that department either. If your next request is not ] compliant you should expect to lose your talk page. ] (]) 18:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)}}
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Again, welcome! — ]]] 20:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
I have blocked you indefinitely. This is unrelated to the section right above; I take no position about whether you are a sockpuppet or not. But simply put, you have been a disruptive influence to the project for the last several weeks. regarding the AutoWikiBrowser is one incident, but there are many others: spamming the emergency Wikimedia Foundation email, opening 15 GA reviews and generally giving very poor-quality reviews, being quite hostile for no apparent reason , the list goes on. This style of editing behavior is not well-compatible with what the community expects from its volunteers. Accordingly, I am blocking you until you can demonstrate the appropriate level of emotional maturity to edit without causing disruption or conflict. (To appeal this block, if your reply fails to convince me, please see ]). ] ''(])'' 21:57, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


:I have returned after a considerable absence from Misplaced Pages. I feel I have now learnt my lesson from the incidents mentioned above and would request the ban be lifted. I hope to return to the project and return to being a net positive to the Wikimedia foundation in general. Any input is appreciated, '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 08:41, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
== Keep Calm ==
::I feel I have learnt that I need to be less hostile towards other editors, and that the editing block is no longer required. Once I have returned I'd also like to stay away from admin related areas, as detailed in the topic ban Dennis Brown worked out, to avoid any unnecessary confrontation. Thanks, '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 10:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


Retrolord contacted me on IRC to ask me to review this unblock request. I declined (without prejudice to any other admin who wishes to review) as I did not feel that sufficiently demonstrated that he had learnt his lesson. Note that subsequent appeal was added after I declined, so wasn't included in my consideration of his unblock request. He followed up my decline with a statement that he "feel about half the things mentioned in the block notice weren't actually problems" and that "in opinion ] made about half of that up". I include these statements of his without comment, so that further admins that review his block may take them into consideration. --] ] 10:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Well done for knocking this article into shape - it was a delight to read on the train this morning! I've a couple of concerns about some material I feel is missing - two relatively minor gaps in the history section and one larger issue in the rediscovery one - which you might like to take a look at; I've left them on the talk page.
:To clarify, I feel that the block in general was warranted and that my behaviour was not compatible with Misplaced Pages's standards. The comments mentioned above refer to NW's mention of "15 GA reviews" and "Spamming the emergency email", no evidence was offered to support either of those assertions. So it is for two reasons that I ask the block be lifted,


:A) I feel I have learnt my lesson in regards to behaving civily on-wiki, and editing constructively
Good luck with the nomination! ] (]) 09:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
:B) I do not feel concerns regarding GA reviews or off-wiki spamming are valid (or true)


:Thanks, '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 10:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
== A cupcake for you! ==


Thanks for answering my unblock request ]. To reiterate, I do think the block was valid and that my behaviour at the time was dreadful. Would it be possible to invoke ]? I seem to meet the criteria (Although I haven't been gone for exactly 6 months), anyone have thoughts regarding this? Thanks, '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 00:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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:Answering this here, since I also answered it on IRC in the -unblock channel. You know perfectly well that the standard offer requires a six-month absence; you have so far been blocked for 2 1/2 months. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– ] <small>]</small></span> 00:16, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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:BTW, you may have already seen it, but I found ] to be the most helpful thing in sorting through what I should or shouldn't bring up in reviews--I wish I had found it sooner! -- ] (]) 13:08, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


== WikiProject Military history coordinator election ==
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXXX, September 2013 ==

== Rate ==

Hi Retro. Do you think I could ask a quick favor? At the top of my user page I'm keeping a score-board of sorts, where I hope to move articles up from C to B and eventually GA class, but I need someone to score my work at ] so I can add it to the scoreboard.(note: I have a disclosed COI for the RTI article) Do you think I could get you to give it a C or B class? Any feedback on what it needs for GA is welcome too (I know the lead needs a bit more meat), but not required. Just hoping to post it on my scoreboard for now. ] (]) 17:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

== Re:GA ==

Thanks so much for the review! If you ever need a reviewer, lemme know :) ♫ ] (<small>]</small>) 23:52, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
:Sure, if you like hurricanes and want to review another one, I'd be thrilled! :) --♫ ] (<small>]</small>) 06:19, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

== ''Fusō'' ==

I finished up my copyediting at ]. Thanks for reviewing! - Dank (]) 18:19, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
:I've been working on the article for ''Fusō'''s sister ship, and making a few tweaks to ''Fusō'' ... done now. I believe we responded to your comments. This Wikicup round ends on Tuesday, so please let me know if there's anything else. - Dank (]) 03:17, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

== Copperhead ==

It's nice when a GA review (and past ones have sometimes been hit and miss in my experience!) really delves into the article :) Thanks again! --''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 10:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

== GA Review of Distinguished Warfare Medal ==

Thanks for the review of the Distinguished Warfare Medal. I came to the page in hopes of building a GA grade article and in my opinion one was already here, at least in my opinion. I do hope to continue to improve the article. Rather it passes or fails, I look forward to your review.] (]) 13:15, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

== German Army ==
I think this is a very inconclusive discussion and the outcome depends on who you ask. I am a big fan of semantically correctness versus best representation in the English language. ] (]) 14:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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The sentence that got my attention was "Hess joined the Thule Society, an antisemitic right-wing Völkisch group, and the Freikorps, a volunteer paramilitary organisation." Thing is, I thought Freikorps was a phenomenon of a bunch of right-wing paramilitaries rather than just one group. --] | (]) 00:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
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Alright thanks for that, i'll look into it then. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 00:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
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== Your comment in 'Requests for Permissions/Reviewer' ==
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I didn't enjoy your comment ]. Misplaced Pages does give all editors the right to request if they meet this ]. I just exercised the right available to me. Its upto the ] to accept or reject my request. Please don't make patronising remarks about editors. I think you should read ]. Cheers. ] (]) 08:41, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

And wikipedia gives all editors the eight to comment on such decisions. If you only have 130 mainspace edits I would advise you to hold off a bit on the request. If you get rejected you might have to wait a while before another request gets accepted. I was just excersising the rights available to me. As you say, its up to the admins to decide, but I'm not confident. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 08:45, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

No, you should still read ]. I only wanted to bring to your attention that you are not the jury. cheers, ] (]) 08:48, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

The community IS the jury. Admins make decisions on behalf of the community, they are not some independant arbitrary body that decides things on a whim. Every member has the right to comment on these decisions, and you should not be making such requests if you plan on having an outburst everytime someone disagrees with you. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 09:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

This is not an outburst. This is expressing my displeasure at your rather patronising remark. ] (]) 09:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

If you behave in such a manner for much longer and continue to not assume good faith with your remarks you may have difficulty getting along with other users. This is also a piece of advice, just like my comment on the request page was. You are not above criticism. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 09:20, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

: So are you. ] (]) 09:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to have to ask you to stop posting on my talkpage about this issue. If you wish to contribute to the project in a constructive manner please do so. Also please try to follow WP:Goodfaith and be civil in your dealings with other users. Thankyou. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 09:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

== Apologies ==

Apologies for my impolite/rude comments here and in the RFP page. Thank you. ] (]) 13:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

== Manta ray GA ==

Thanks for reviewing. I hope you'll treat it as a potential FAC. ] (]) 18:48, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
:Have you contacted another user? ] (]) 16:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
::I'm still reviewing the article, but it is likely I will have to get a second opinion on the review. Sorry '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 21:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thankyou! '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 05:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC) :I haven't edited in a while, but thank you nonetheless! '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 08:42, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


== ] == == Appeal workshop ==


For my personal use in a future appeal I am noting this here;
I would really hate to fail this GA for a minor issue - see the nomination page.--] ] 23:57, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


1)Claims I 'spammed' the Wikimedia foundation emergency email are untrue AND irrelevant as they are off-wiki activities. This falsity was clearly mentioned to help smear my name, given that as an experienced admin NW would know that WP:BLOCK doesn't allow for sanctions based on off wiki activity. I would appreciate an explanation from ] on this point specifically
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2)Claims I initiated 15 simultaneous GA reviews are untrue
Not sure if you've seen my comments here. Could you please expand on the areas you feel are over-technical? ] (]) 12:32, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


3)Claims I performed GA reviews of consistently low quality are untrue, a discussion was held specifically on this point and no consensus was reached supporting the claim, the discussion was quickly hijacked with accusations of sockpuppetry and my participation in the discussion was censored
==Article Feedback deployment==
Hey Retrolord; I'm dropping you this note because you've used ] in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, ] (]) 23:16, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


4)Claims I am a sockpuppet are untrue, and were also used to advance the 'low quality GA agenda'. This also ties in with the smearing tactics mentioned above, as the claims were proved false by consensus
== Shoup GA ==


5)Any attempt to highlight these points has so far been ignored, although NW did state when questioned on point 2 that he "read it somewhere else and assumed it was true". This raises questions about NW's judgement and competence. When viewed in light of the discussion at WT:GAN regarding the quality of my reviews, initiated by NW, which subsequently failed, it suggests these false claims were made to justify his erroneous block.
See: ] —]<sup>]</sup> 05:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:See: ] again. —]<sup>]</sup> 02:28, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
::Made the latest fixes. —]<sup>]</sup> 22:38, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Take another look here if you could, please. —]<sup>]</sup> 01:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


I'll add more later, appeal work-in-progress- '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 07:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
== ] ==


] is asked to explain the above points as he was the blocking admin. '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 07:39, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi ... you wanted to know when I had an article to review, and this one is ] ... and half the content overlaps two articles you've already reviewed. It may look like we already have the 3 supports we need to pass ... but there's an understanding at FAC that one review is needed from outside the wikiproject "regulars", and articles often sit at FAC for a month waiting for that 4th support. It's considered perfectly acceptable for a reviewer at FAC to say that they only covered the things they personally feel comfortable with, unlike at GAN. Okay, that's the FAC basics, I hope that helps ... this isn't a request for a support, of course. - Dank (]) 21:30, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
:Your behavior to the owners of the servers was disruptive and wasted plenty of employee-hours (i.e. more than zero). Your GA review quality was, to put it bluntly, the worst I have ever seen. Your overall behavior has been nothing but combative or, alternatively, disruptive, on every page I have seen you post at. Please stop pinging me with the same points, and take a leaf from the fact that not a single administrator has agreed with any of the substantive issues that you have put in your block appeal thus far. ] ''(])'' 13:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::Ehm, your continued insistance my GA reviews are of poor quality is against consensus NW. You also failed to address most of the points. Please explain why off wiki actions were mentioned in the block notice? Please also provide some evidence for these claims, I have never seen any evidence of me 'spamming' the foundation, have you? '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 13:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:::I honestly cannot believe that this isn't some high-quality trolling. I'm going to remove this page from my watchlist. If you ping me again I may choose to fully protect this page for a defined period of time. If another administrator wants to unblock, they are welcome to. ] ''(])'' 13:44, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::::], there are NUMEROUS significant factual errors in the block notice that you have flat our REFUSED to explain. An explanation of point 2 mentioned above would be nice. I would also like to know WHY off wiki actions were mentioned in a block notice, especially given there is no evidence to support those claims. Please answer these questions NW, you can't just ignore them and protect the page. '''<span style="color:gold;">★</span>★]★<span style="color:gold;">★</span>''' 13:47, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::I wasn't joking. Your talk page has been fully protected for an hour. ] ''(])'' 13:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


== ''The Bugle'': Issue XCI, October 2013 ==
== Street Fighter X Tekken Review - Character List cannot be removed. ==

In your review for ], you said that the character list has to be removed. This cannot be done because it would be inconsistant with all the other fighting game articles we have here, the majority of which have character lists. ] (]) 12:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

== GAN ==

Hello,
I've made the alterations you originally suggested to ] - would you be interested in re-reviewing it? ---'']'' (]) 19:16, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'll be able to do it on the weekend. Let me know when your ready for me to start, Thanks '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 08:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for not getting back to you earlier. If you could give a look over again, that'd be great! --'']'' (]) 13:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

:Hi, sorry to bother you again. Could you officially close your review? On the list, it appears as though you're still in the course of reviewing it, even though I've changed it several times. Best wishes ---22:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

== Manta ray GA again ==

All the problems so far have been resolved. ] (]) 19:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
:Hello?

== ] ==

Hey, after your ace review of my last deception article for GA, do you fancy taking a look at the next one? :) I'd like to try and get it passed as GA before it makes DYK, just for fun! --''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 23:03, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

== ''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXIV, March 2013 ==


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== ] ==

Will you be returning to this review soon? It's been almost two weeks since the nominator posted that all the issues you noted should have been addressed. Thanks! ] (]) 12:57, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

{{Done}}! '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 23:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
:Just FYI, your most recent article review request was completed. ] (]) 01:13, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

== ''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXV, April 2013 ==

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== Gallipoli Campaign ==

Hello Retrolord. Myself and a few other editors have recently been working on ] in the view of getting it to B class and possibly GA (by way of a peer review first). I noticed on the talk page that you had expressed some interest in doing this back in Jan 13. Are you still interested? If you are there is a discussion here of things that still need to be done so pls feel free to stop by. Thanks. ] (]) 23:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

== ''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXVI, May 2013 ==

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==Lin Biao==
That might be the best option. I am not the primary contributor for this page, so I feel some time to bolster and adduce the article would be most auspicious. Thanks for your review! ] (]) 19:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

== Trones Wood ==

If TW gets a B class, will it automatically drop off the "incomplete" lists?] (]) 16:14, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:Not quite sure what lists you are referring to? '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 17:10, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
::These: Hidden categories:

British military history articles needing attention to referencing and citation
German military history articles needing attention to referencing and citation
World War I articles needing attention to referencing and citation
Military history articles needing attention to referencing and citation
Military history articles needing attention only to referencing and citation] (]) 17:15, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

It might not happen automatically, but if it was B class then it shouldn't be on those lists, so it should be ok with removing it from them. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 17:30, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

== Move ==

{{Help me-helped}}

Hi, how do I go about moving ] to ]? Much appreciated, '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 17:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
* Hello there Retrolord, may I suggest reading up on ]ing pages which gives a first time page movers guide to doing that? Good luck and if you need any further help, I'll be watching this talk page for a bit, feel free to just ask. Happy editing! ] (]) 17:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:That was very helpful, thankyou! '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 17:55, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Tireless Contributor Barnstar'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Your Royal Highness, I present to you a trophy for creating the article/list ], keep up the good work! <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#fff">]]</span> 21:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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Oh that is very nice. Thankyou very much! '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 06:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

==Talkback==
{{talkback|Talk:2011 Silk Way Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 crash/GA1|ts=20:52, 7 July 2013 (UTC)}}
''']'''&nbsp;<sup>'']''</sup> 20:52, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Reviewer Barnstar'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thanks for cleaning a few of my articles of the queue, and for all the work you've been doing on reviewing generally. Much appreciated! -- ] (]) 00:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Oh well that's very nice. Thank you! '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 00:53, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

== Knighthood Request ==
{{archive top|ARISE, Sir JETSTREAMER}}
{{diff|2007_Mogadishu_TransAVIAexport_Airlines_Il-76_crash|563506182|563023701|This}} shows again that you are unfamiliar with many, many aspects of Misplaced Pages:
#The placement of the {{tp|under-construction}} template at the top of any article informs any reader that the page in question is undergoinfg major changes. Given that a number of the references it includes are dead, I'm trying to find new sources to replace the link rots. It didn't take too long to anyone to figure this out, it's enough to look at the dead link tags in the "References" section;
#Should there is inactivity in an any article the template is used at, a bot automatically removes it;
#I'm not signing anything. The template puts the name of the last editor that modified the article.

Given that you are new here, please become more familiar with the guidelines <big>'''before attempting to instruct the experienced editors'''</big>.--''']'''&nbsp;<sup>'']''</sup> 13:23, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Well gosh. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 13:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Would you like a knighthood?'''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 13:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

] Now that we are friends again, how 'bout that Knighthood? '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 15:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

{{Archive bottom}}

== Knighthood ==

I request permission by thy king to serve the kingdom and the royal highness as knight. I request this with honor, it is solely my duty to protect you and your kingdom. Oh and we need your help at ], there's a backlog there that requires your attention! <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#fff">]]</span> 02:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:What sort of Knighthood do you want? '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 03:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
::The Grand and most Honourable Order of the Royal Knights of Misplaced Pages. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#fff">]]</span> 03:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

== Josephine 96 GAN ==

Hey there! I believe I answered your questions about Josephine 96. Lemme know if anything else needs to get done. --♫ ] (<small>]</small>) 19:45, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks :D --♫ ] (<small>]</small>) 02:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

{{tlp|admin help}}

Hi! How do I find out if an IP has had their talkpage access revoked. I know the IP in question has been blocked, but is there a way to check the block log to see if it still has talkpage access? Thanks, '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 10:46, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:Non-admin view: The block log will typically show that in the block entry. ] (]) 11:21, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:For example: . ] (]) 11:25, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, look at the IP's contributions page. At the top there is a link to "Block log". There you can see whether there is a current block that includes "cannot edit own talk page." ] (]) 11:34, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

== Elimination drive ==

Yeah, I'll knock something up in the coming few days- we could perhaps run it through August, though I am moving house at the end of August and so may not actually be able to do much at the very end of the competition. I suppose having a couple of coordinators/judges would be helpful... ] (]) 10:43, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:Sounds like a plan. Let me know if you need any help with it then, '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 10:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For His Excellency's most right and proper good humor. ] (]) 13:42, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
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:Thank you very much! '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 13:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

== IRC CLOAK REQUEST ==

I hereby request an IRC cloak! '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 07:05, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

== Belgian Government in Exile ==

Absolutely! I look forward to it! --'']'' (]) 07:54, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

== GA Nominations ==

Hi. I notice you appear to be trying to review more than 15 articles on the ] list at once. I admire your enthusiasm in clearing the backlog, but in my experience, GA reviews take ''at least'' a day, and only then for an article that impeccably meets the criteria without any issues, and a more realistic figure (indeed, the standard time for a review to be "on hold") is around a week. I'm afraid I'm somewhat skeptical that you'll be able to clear those reviews in the timeframe we normally expect, so could I politely suggest you dial back a bit and concentrate on ''one'' GA review at a time? Then when you've completed that, move onto the next. ] ] ] 11:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
:Whaaaaaaaaa? ''Fifteeeeen?''. I thought I had 5 or so. Hang on i'll check. '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 11:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
::], I did just start a few. As I am currently in possession of copious amounts of free time, I assure you they will all be done within the next day or so. No need to worry. '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 11:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

==You have a new message!==
{{talkback|Talk:To SquarePants or Not to SquarePants/GA1|ts=12:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)}}
] (] • ]) 12:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

== Neutrality Request ==

Hi there Retrolord, I kindly ask permission from you to help turn the content on your user and talk page notices that seem a tad bit immature, I know it's fun and games to have phrases like "exile for life" or the kingdom fantasy, but such words can appear immature and, will only put a negative impression on you, the last thing I want to see is a user getting picked on because of the content on your userpage and talk page, your contributions to wikipedia content are really good, but when I see your userpage with the exile and King stuff makes me think differently on how you actually work here. People will start to respect you and like you more as a Wikipedian, all the editors that don't like you will see your true capabilities and will start to like you again, but again its your userpage and talkpage, so the choice is up to you my dear friend. <span style="font-family: Georgia">--]]</span> 00:05, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for your concern Prabash. I do have a few things in mind, that I will roll out in the next day or so. I'll tone down most of the content, let me know what you think? '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 02:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
::Im really glad you have decided to do so, I personally would add a nice border to your talk and userpage, keep the picture and infobox there if you want, if you need any help with the design itself, ping me in. <span style="font-family: Georgia">--]]</span> 02:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

== Noticeboards ==
''I dont like it'' does not work at noticeboards. Leave it alone, walk away from it, but please do not do that again... noticeboards of projects are the public record, and are archived in due course. ] 04:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:Who are you and what do you want. If your here to complain come with diffs or don't come at all. '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 04:48, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:: is what it is in reference to. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 04:53, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
::(edit conflict) They're talking about . Have a look at ] if you're unfamiliar with it. --] <sup><font face="Calibri">'']''</font></sup> 04:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Fair enough. '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 04:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
::::If that is the case, just take care, cheers - you must learn a bit of ] to last a little longer enough here... it doesnt take much to look at recent edits to see what is happening ] 08:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

==Help!==

{{help me}}

Hi! How do I set up archiving of my talkpage? I tried reading the instructions but couldn't make sense of them. I just want a simple archive, with threads moved in after 5 days on no replies, with the archives done by months. Is that possible? Much appreciated, '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 10:36, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
: See . The archive template typically needs to be your first entry on your talkpage. See the source code of mine to see how to setup. For example, I believe yours should look like: <nowiki>
{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo = old(5d)
| archive = User talk:Retrolord/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s
}}
</nowiki>
(]<span style="font-family:Forte, cursive, sans-serif;color:black">]</span>]) 10:53, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

===re archiving===
::Hi - not using any device or time specific archiving ''but doing it manually'', you can simply create a new page in main space called User:Retrolord/Archive 1.
Then you delete (using cut on your computer) what you dont want on your talk page, and place it in the new (redlinked self created page) and paste the content, and save.

It is well worth the effort to add the template ''userpage'' which you can find on others user pages, as well as ''noindex''. When in doubt go into someones user talk page like mine, open it in edit, and have a look see about the templates...
That is the most primitive manual version, as you have asked for help - others might offer you suggestions in the more automated variety/method. cheers ] 10:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


== Deleting user space space ==

If it pleases your Highness; I have deleted the two user space entries. In future if you use '''<nowiki>{{db-u1|rationale="insert a reason in the quotes, such as no longer required"}}</nowiki>''' it makes it a tad easier to see that they are simple user requests and (other than talk pages) will geneally be nuked without any issue. Best. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">]&nbsp;:&nbsp;] </span></small> 10:46, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:I'll keep that in mind Pedro, thank you very much! '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 10:47, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:23, 6 March 2023

After several months of being blocked you have yet to come up with a convincing unblock request, yet you continue to engage in silly conflicts over the content of your talk page. Babysitting you is a waste of our administrative resources and so I have revoked your ability to edit this page. If you wish to appeal further you may contact WP:BASC by email. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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Blocked indefinitely

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Retrolord (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

original unblock reason

Decline reason:

I am operating on the assumption that you want the conversation below to serve as your unblock request, in which case the answer is quite easily no. "I learned my lesson, because I didn't do it anyway" is not going to get you unblocked. You consistently engaged in various types of disruptive editing despite being repeatedly blocked for it, you endlessly wiki-lawyer when confronted about it, and you take a "battleground approach" to pretty much everything. Unless and until you can give some guarantee that all these behaviors will permanently cease you can expect to remain blocked. I would add that there is a finite number of times you will be allowed to appeal this way and given your track record I wouldn't expect a lot of leeway in that department either. If your next request is not WP:GAB compliant you should expect to lose your talk page. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.


I have blocked you indefinitely. This is unrelated to the section right above; I take no position about whether you are a sockpuppet or not. But simply put, you have been a disruptive influence to the project for the last several weeks. Today's mess regarding the AutoWikiBrowser is one incident, but there are many others: spamming the emergency Wikimedia Foundation email, opening 15 GA reviews and generally giving very poor-quality reviews, being quite hostile for no apparent reason , the list goes on. This style of editing behavior is not well-compatible with what the community expects from its volunteers. Accordingly, I am blocking you until you can demonstrate the appropriate level of emotional maturity to edit without causing disruption or conflict. (To appeal this block, if your reply fails to convince me, please see WP:GAB). NW (Talk) 21:57, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I have returned after a considerable absence from Misplaced Pages. I feel I have now learnt my lesson from the incidents mentioned above and would request the ban be lifted. I hope to return to the project and return to being a net positive to the Wikimedia foundation in general. Any input is appreciated, ★★King•Retrolord★★ 08:41, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I feel I have learnt that I need to be less hostile towards other editors, and that the editing block is no longer required. Once I have returned I'd also like to stay away from admin related areas, as detailed in the topic ban Dennis Brown worked out, to avoid any unnecessary confrontation. Thanks, ★★King•Retrolord★★ 10:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Retrolord contacted me on IRC to ask me to review this unblock request. I declined (without prejudice to any other admin who wishes to review) as I did not feel that this sufficiently demonstrated that he had learnt his lesson. Note that this subsequent appeal was added after I declined, so wasn't included in my consideration of his unblock request. He followed up my decline with a statement that he "feel about half the things mentioned in the block notice weren't actually problems" and that "in opinion NW made about half of that up". I include these statements of his without comment, so that further admins that review his block may take them into consideration. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 10:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

To clarify, I feel that the block in general was warranted and that my behaviour was not compatible with Misplaced Pages's standards. The comments mentioned above refer to NW's mention of "15 GA reviews" and "Spamming the emergency email", no evidence was offered to support either of those assertions. So it is for two reasons that I ask the block be lifted,
A) I feel I have learnt my lesson in regards to behaving civily on-wiki, and editing constructively
B) I do not feel concerns regarding GA reviews or off-wiki spamming are valid (or true)
Thanks, ★★King•Retrolord★★ 10:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my unblock request user:Beeblebrox. To reiterate, I do think the block was valid and that my behaviour at the time was dreadful. Would it be possible to invoke WP:Standard Offer? I seem to meet the criteria (Although I haven't been gone for exactly 6 months), anyone have thoughts regarding this? Thanks, ★★King•Retrolord★★ 00:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Answering this here, since I also answered it on IRC in the -unblock channel. You know perfectly well that the standard offer requires a six-month absence; you have so far been blocked for 2 1/2 months. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:16, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013

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Congratulations!

The Content Review Medal of Merit  
On behalf of the WikiProject Military history coordinators, in recognition of your commitment in reviewing 8 Military History good article nominations, peer review requests, A-Class nominations and/or Featured Article candidates during the period July to September 2013, I hereby award you the Content Review Medal. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 06:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I haven't edited in a while, but thank you nonetheless! ★★King•Retrolord★★ 08:42, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Appeal workshop

For my personal use in a future appeal I am noting this here;

1)Claims I 'spammed' the Wikimedia foundation emergency email are untrue AND irrelevant as they are off-wiki activities. This falsity was clearly mentioned to help smear my name, given that as an experienced admin NW would know that WP:BLOCK doesn't allow for sanctions based on off wiki activity. I would appreciate an explanation from User:NuclearWarfare on this point specifically

2)Claims I initiated 15 simultaneous GA reviews are untrue

3)Claims I performed GA reviews of consistently low quality are untrue, a discussion was held specifically on this point and no consensus was reached supporting the claim, the discussion was quickly hijacked with accusations of sockpuppetry and my participation in the discussion was censored

4)Claims I am a sockpuppet are untrue, and were also used to advance the 'low quality GA agenda'. This also ties in with the smearing tactics mentioned above, as the claims were proved false by consensus

5)Any attempt to highlight these points has so far been ignored, although NW did state when questioned on point 2 that he "read it somewhere else and assumed it was true". This raises questions about NW's judgement and competence. When viewed in light of the discussion at WT:GAN regarding the quality of my reviews, initiated by NW, which subsequently failed, it suggests these false claims were made to justify his erroneous block.

I'll add more later, appeal work-in-progress- ★★King•Retrolord★★ 07:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

User:NuclearWarfare is asked to explain the above points as he was the blocking admin. ★★King•Retrolord★★ 07:39, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Your behavior to the owners of the servers was disruptive and wasted plenty of employee-hours (i.e. more than zero). Your GA review quality was, to put it bluntly, the worst I have ever seen. Your overall behavior has been nothing but combative or, alternatively, disruptive, on every page I have seen you post at. Please stop pinging me with the same points, and take a leaf from the fact that not a single administrator has agreed with any of the substantive issues that you have put in your block appeal thus far. NW (Talk) 13:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Ehm, your continued insistance my GA reviews are of poor quality is against consensus NW. You also failed to address most of the points. Please explain why off wiki actions were mentioned in the block notice? Please also provide some evidence for these claims, I have never seen any evidence of me 'spamming' the foundation, have you? ★★King•Retrolord★★ 13:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I honestly cannot believe that this isn't some high-quality trolling. I'm going to remove this page from my watchlist. If you ping me again I may choose to fully protect this page for a defined period of time. If another administrator wants to unblock, they are welcome to. NW (Talk) 13:44, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
User:NuclearWarfare, there are NUMEROUS significant factual errors in the block notice that you have flat our REFUSED to explain. An explanation of point 2 mentioned above would be nice. I would also like to know WHY off wiki actions were mentioned in a block notice, especially given there is no evidence to support those claims. Please answer these questions NW, you can't just ignore them and protect the page. ★★King•Retrolord★★ 13:47, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I wasn't joking. Your talk page has been fully protected for an hour. NW (Talk) 13:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

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