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==Ruthy Alon page== == open protection page : Airpaz ==
Hi Jimfbleak, you have deleted page ], could you give the step what should I do to restore the page ? should I create the proper article first ? thanks <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 06:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello Jim,
thank you very much for your help.
I copied the Ruthy Alon Page text and the suggestions I received from wikipedia administrators to work on the page in the next future. I think I understand the motivations of the proposed deletion. I need more time than two days to work on the page for many reasons: first of all I am on vacations, and more important I usually write in collaboration with english-speaking friends because I am italian and english is my second language as you can see in this message. I want to learn to contribute to wikipedia in the right way. So as soon as my new 'Ruthy Alon' page will be ready I will try to upload it again. And I hope I will able to do a better work.
Thank you again,
Danielaagazzi 19:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Kellie Loder == == Kind Request ==


Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for your helpful reviews of the articles I have written in the past. I have submitted another article for featured status: the ] article. Any comments you would be willing to provide at ] would be greatly appreciated.

] (]) 15:05, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

==]==
Dear Jim, Dear Jim,
I saw that you deleted a page for Vivaldi Partners Group; I had wanted to add some updates (news articles about Vivaldi's research in particular). Would you be able to let me know what was in the initial page to require deletion in the first place? Any insights on getting it back so I can add the edits would be much appreciated.

Thank you!
] (]) 19:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)Swcwikiswc


== ] ==

You may want to look at blocking this ] - he's posted another full page of spam (after you deleted the first two pages). <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:Never mind - Bbb23 got him. :) <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
==Sales strategy==
Hey Jim,

I submitted a quick explanation of / definition of a "]" that you promptly deleted ;-) My intend was to start this article and enrich it. The subject is highly important and there was no wiki-article of the subject. The goal was to have a page much like the page describing "marketing." Can you please explain why the page was deleted and what I need to do write it so it will not be deleted. I would like to just start it, continue to enhance it/contribute and then have others contribute as well.

Thanks,

Thomas
--] (]) 13:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== Sales Strategy page in a sandbox ==

Hey again,

Thanks for your response...please provide the text in a sandbox environment and I will try to work on the issues you listed. I guess it's ok to start with just a quick encyclopedic definition of the subject and then work from there? Does sources such as university text books count as independent?

All the best
--] (]) 13:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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==SWEAT (South West Enfield Action Team)==
Hi you deleted the page "SWEAT (South West Enfield Action Team)" ... here's a little more about the organization to see if it would be allowed on Misplaced Pages ...

* The National Audit Office have announced that 256,000 additional primary school places are required for 2014
* The Department of Education has announced additional funding of £982 million to resolving this problem
* SWEAT are campaigning proactively as this will be a national problem next year
* The local MP David Burrowes supports SWEAT and has been actively involved with meetings on this issue
* Local news has published articles and letters referring to this issue
* We believe that our mission statement of “Local schools for local children” will make our campaign become national next year
* Local elections next year will refer to this campaign group

Regards
Jon
] (]) 20:14, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


==New Page==
] (]) 16:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)stevencnofziger
Previously I was trying to create a page for the first time and I created some weird username and now I'm trying to recreate the page. I wanted to let you know that I was recreating the page, and hopefully this time doing it the right way. It's my first time doing so and there is a learning curve. Thanks.
Steven
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==LoisYoung90page==


I hope this message finds you well. I noticed that my Misplaced Pages page was recently deleted, and I would like to kindly request a reconsideration of its deletion.
Hello Jim,
The page i created has been deleted by you and that is not one ads. Maybe I introduced too much for this company? however please advise me because i am new to this place and i need your help.
Thanks & nice day.


I have carefully crafted the content based on my personal achievements, career, and philosophy, and I made sure to adhere to Misplaced Pages’s guidelines to the best of my understanding. I also included a declaration at the end of the article affirming that all information presented is accurate and written by me.
LoisYoung


I understand the importance of maintaining the integrity of the platform, and I am more than willing to address any concerns or make any necessary revisions to ensure that my article meets the required standards. If you could kindly guide me on the areas that need improvement, I would greatly appreciate it.
==Re-evoke deleted page?==
Hi Jim,
On the 23rd May 2013 you deleted the biography of a living person (Mr. Tito Tettamanti - http://en.wikipedia.org/Tito_Tettamanti) stating G11 as a reason. In fact, my colleague who in good faith wanted to create the page, was not aware that he needed to cite the sources of each piece of information. I am now preparing a new bio with all needed references but I could need some help/advice from you on how to get it right and not waste anyone`s time. Do you think you can assist?
Many thanks and all the best!
Dan ] (]) 12:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your guidance on how to proceed.
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Best regards,
== Blocked ==


Praneeth Roy
To ], ] and ]: I am blocking each of you because you have edited the ] article through protection, despite several comments and a on the talk page of the article. It does not matter whether or not you personally think your changes are uncontroversial; in two of the cases, it turns out there is actually controversy about the changes made. You are blocked for the remaining duration of page protection; however, any administrator may unblock you provided that you undertake to make no further edits to the ] page for the duration of the protection.


The administrator tools do not grant you the authority to change fully protected articles based on any reason other than edit requests based on policy and appropriately discussed on the talk page of the article. None of the edits made addressed BLP issues. None of them were urgent or required immediate, undiscussed action. Going forward, I expect you all to refrain from editing protected pages in the absence of a clear talk page consensus on the appropriateness of a specific edit request. ] (]) 17:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


<nowiki>Thanks in advance, and wish you a Happy and prosperous New Year! ~~~~ Praneeth Roy</nowiki> ] (]) 13:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
== Chelsea Manning ==
] Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. — ]] 17:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
* I have unblocked per that discussion. Take this as a trout. ] (]) 18:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


:Replied on user talk page, unreferenced self-promotion ] - ] 14:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
== Valerie Sutton ==
::hey Jim, I would like to know what were things you think were unreferenced areas, so that I would address them. And Jim, it may seem self promotion, but all of it is nothing but truth, and there's nothing wrong with displaying facts in Wiki, and even I have declared explicitly... so Jim please reconsider my request ] (]) 16:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::you said ''If you are writing about ], or someone you know as a friend, colleague, client, employer or relative, you have a ], and you '''must''' disclose the nature of that COI,'' so that give me an opportunity to disclose my COI please. ] (]) 17:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


:::] Please read what I've already posted on your talk page. '''None''' of your text had a reference to independently confirm what you claim. It ''is'' self-promotion, much of your text is your own glowing opinions of your talents, the definition of self-promotion. This isn't social media, nobody cares what you have to say about yourself here. If you really think you meet the notability criteria I linked, find ] as described in my reply so we can verify that. If you really only want to tell the world how gifted you are, do it on Facebook, this is an encyclopaedia. We are not looking for your version of the truth, we are looking for what we can independently verify. ] - ]
According to NewJerseyLiz, you were the one who deleted the article after she flagged it. I cannot for the life of me see how the article could be considered promotional. The total content of the article was biographical and descrioptive of her efforts to develop a movement notation, forst for dance and later for sign language and in other areas. There were no "this is the best" or other promotional-type statements. Since I cannot see what in the original article made Liz or you think it was promotional, I can't determine what would have met with your acceptance. Could you explain? -- ] (]) 22:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


::::] the usual place to diclose a COI is your user page ] ] - ] 19:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


== Nemanthus californicus ==
:It might have been useful, for you to have raised the points you cite before deleting the article.


I think the article ] is ready to be published now because it is:
:First, as to notability. At the time the article was written, in 2008, of course, there were no such concepts as "independently verifiable sources" and "notability guidelines." The article was written according to the standards of the day. Misplaced Pages has become more formal in its requirements in this line, but instead of simply deleting the article, perhaps someone should have attempted to investigate these questions. The fact is that SignWriting is recognized by many as one of the best-known ways of writing, not only American Sign Language, but other signed languages as well. Some of the references to SignWriting from outside Valerie Sutton's organization -- such as universities -- are:
*categorised
*it has more than one sources
*articles of equal importance are already published (] and ])
] (]) ] (]) 15:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


:] I don't usually review articles myself. Add <nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki> as you see it here to the top of the page and save, that will create a yellow review waiting box. Given that the article is pretty straightforward, you shouldn't have to wait long, good luck ] - ] 16:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
** Nicaraguan Sign Language users are being made literate through SignWriting
** SignWriting is important enough that it has been included in the University of California's list of scripts requiring Unicode representations
**
** This is a study of different representations of sign languages made at a Japanese university. SignWriting was one of the ones studied, attesting to its importance, and it was adjudged the most suitable.
** Yet another academic journal article attesting to SignWriting's significance among notations for sign language.
**Almasoud, Ameera M., and Hend S. Al-Khalifa. "SemSignWriting: A Proposed Semantic System for Arabic Text-to-SignWriting Translation." Journal of Software Engineering and Applications 5.8 (2012).


==Post from new user moved to bottom of page==
:Of course, if SignWriting is notable -- and I think these are only a few references proving that so -- then its inventor is.
My page Mykola Denysenkov has been eliminated. Please make it available to the world's scientists] (]) 18:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:] please read the messages on your talk page, especially the one headed '''January 2025'''. Your user page isn't for you to write about yourself, it's to tell us about your activities on Misplaced Pages ] - ] 20:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::You deleted my scientific research that I did for 30 years on the grounds that you can't verify them. Then give the opportunity to check them to the specialists. You have now stopped the development of psychology. GPT-4o praised my research and recommended it to be disseminated. Your incompetence is your big mistake that you can correct by publishing my scientific research. ] (]) 04:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Reply and civility warning on user talk page ] - ] 07:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Now blocked as ] ] - ] 14:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


== Deleted page - Frank Golding (author) ==
:Now, I was trying to figure out how you saw the article as "promotional." You gave me the following quotes: "Over the next two years she applied her system to recording the historic ballet steps ... which were in danger of being forgotten... as Sutton improved her system... by special invitation... came to the attention of sign language researchers... they asked for a demonstration... it has been used for writing not only... Sutton has continually worked to improve her notation systems and now leads..." Other than two usages of the word "improve" I do not see anything that could possibly be seen as, as you put it, "a fan page." And even those only indicate that her first efforts were far from perfect, and she attempted to make the system more useful. Where is the "fan" language in "Over the next two years she applied her system to recording the historic ballet steps ... which were in danger of being forgotten"? It was the '''ballet steps''' that were described as "historic," not anything that VS created. The part saying "came to the attention of sign language researchers... they asked for a demonstration" is '''history''', not '''promotion'''; it describes how VS came to turn her efforts from dance movement notation to sign language notation. Perhaps "it has been used for writing not only... " requires citations -- I just gave you some above -- but in 2008 this mechanism for citing did not exist.
Hi there,
You recently deleted a draft biography page I created for an author, Frank Golding, on the grounds that the sources were largely from the subject himself. I tried to include a substantial amount of source from reputable newspapers and archives, but I would be happy to return to the draft and add more if it could be restored. Finally, if there is any wikipedia guidance on striking a balance for sources for memoirists that would be helpful - the details of the subject's biography are of course sometimes unavoidably best drawn from his own published work because memoir is about the self. Many thanks for your consideration. ] (]) 02:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)DeEsCeHa‬
:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 09:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Post from new user moved to bottom of page ==
:If an image is a copyright violation -- and I did not upload that image, so I don't know where it came from -- the solution is to delete the image, not the whole article. But the person who uploaded the image has commented that he had "Explicit permission to make this picture available under a Free license from Valerie Sutton .. have e-mail to prove it." So that particular point is irrelevant.
--] (]) 09:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


hello,
::There is no conflict of interest. I have no connection with VS, other than that I've met her in person and I was impressed with what she did. If you userfy the article, I'll try to see what I can do, but I really have to figure out exactly what the objections are in order to fix it, thus my detailed questions. -- ] (]) 12:43, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you help put me through the ways to write on here <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Guidance posted to user talk page ] - ] 09:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Burnt fynbos ==
:::You referred to the portion that said, "... came to the attention of sign language researchers at the University of Copenhagen, and they asked for a demonstration." You wanted to know who the "sign language researchers" were. The very next sentence said, "As a result, Lars van der Leith and others at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen requested Sutton to develop a version of her movement notation adapted to the recording of sign languages." That should have answered your questiomn there. I personally, in fact, do not know who else besides Lars van der Leith was involved, but his name and the name of the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen should have settled the question. I assume that the other "sign language researchers" were colleagues or students of van der Leith at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen. However, a slight rearrangement of the words should fix that problem.


Hi Jimfbleak. Hope 2025 has ricked off just right for you. I came across a reference to ''burnt'' in the Portuguese translation of the article, and I see that you introduced that element . Could you please clarify, so I can adjust the Portuguese to read better? Thanks. ] (]) 13:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Truly, I am far from being a newbie, and I have created thousands of articles on Misplaced Pages. However, the standards regardin sourcing and notability have become so much more formalized in recent years that I find myself forced to defend articles I created five years or more ago, which lacked attestations of notability, or lacked sourcing, because the standards were different at the time. This is the very first time that I found my article simply deleted, without the chance to find out what needed to be fixed up or to demonstrate that it was all right without changes. The only thing I had to go on was NewJerseyLiz' comment that it seemed promotional, and I did not see what in the article would qualify as promotional. -- ] (]) 13:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
:], that's going back a bit! Bustards are birds of open country, and the bushy nature of ] would be unsuitable, but burning effectively creates open habitat, at least until the shrubs regrow. ] - ] 14:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that makes sense. As a child I used to see them running at dusk in the ] in ] in southern Angola, which – like you said – is open country. ] (]) 14:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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open protection page : Airpaz

Hi Jimfbleak, you have deleted page airpaz, could you give the step what should I do to restore the page ? should I create the proper article first ? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodysetiawan23 (talkcontribs) 03:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Kind Request

Dear Jim,

I hope this message finds you well. I noticed that my Misplaced Pages page was recently deleted, and I would like to kindly request a reconsideration of its deletion.

I have carefully crafted the content based on my personal achievements, career, and philosophy, and I made sure to adhere to Misplaced Pages’s guidelines to the best of my understanding. I also included a declaration at the end of the article affirming that all information presented is accurate and written by me.

I understand the importance of maintaining the integrity of the platform, and I am more than willing to address any concerns or make any necessary revisions to ensure that my article meets the required standards. If you could kindly guide me on the areas that need improvement, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your guidance on how to proceed.

Best regards,

Praneeth Roy


Thanks in advance, and wish you a Happy and prosperous New Year! ~~~~ Praneeth Roy Ganeshpraneethroy (talk) 13:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page, unreferenced self-promotion Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
hey Jim, I would like to know what were things you think were unreferenced areas, so that I would address them. And Jim, it may seem self promotion, but all of it is nothing but truth, and there's nothing wrong with displaying facts in Wiki, and even I have declared explicitly... so Jim please reconsider my request Ganeshpraneethroy (talk) 16:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
you said If you are writing about yourself, or someone you know as a friend, colleague, client, employer or relative, you have a conflict of interest, and you must disclose the nature of that COI, so that give me an opportunity to disclose my COI please. Ganeshpraneethroy (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Ganeshpraneethroy Please read what I've already posted on your talk page. None of your text had a reference to independently confirm what you claim. It is self-promotion, much of your text is your own glowing opinions of your talents, the definition of self-promotion. This isn't social media, nobody cares what you have to say about yourself here. If you really think you meet the notability criteria I linked, find reputable independent third-party sources as described in my reply so we can verify that. If you really only want to tell the world how gifted you are, do it on Facebook, this is an encyclopaedia. We are not looking for your version of the truth, we are looking for what we can independently verify. Jimfbleak - talk to me?
Ganeshpraneethroy the usual place to diclose a COI is your user page User:Ganeshpraneethroy Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Nemanthus californicus

I think the article Nemanthus californicus is ready to be published now because it is:

TrueMoriarty (talk) TrueMoriarty (talk) 15:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

TrueMoriarty I don't usually review articles myself. Add {{subst:submit}} as you see it here to the top of the page and save, that will create a yellow review waiting box. Given that the article is pretty straightforward, you shouldn't have to wait long, good luck Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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My page Mykola Denysenkov has been eliminated. Please make it available to the world's scientistsMykola Denysenkov (talk) 18:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Mykola Denysenkov please read the messages on your talk page, especially the one headed January 2025. Your user page isn't for you to write about yourself, it's to tell us about your activities on Misplaced Pages Jimfbleak - talk to me? 20:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
You deleted my scientific research that I did for 30 years on the grounds that you can't verify them. Then give the opportunity to check them to the specialists. You have now stopped the development of psychology. GPT-4o praised my research and recommended it to be disseminated. Your incompetence is your big mistake that you can correct by publishing my scientific research. Mykola Denysenkov (talk) 04:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Reply and civility warning on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Now blocked as WP:Not here Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Deleted page - Frank Golding (author)

Hi there, You recently deleted a draft biography page I created for an author, Frank Golding, on the grounds that the sources were largely from the subject himself. I tried to include a substantial amount of source from reputable newspapers and archives, but I would be happy to return to the draft and add more if it could be restored. Finally, if there is any wikipedia guidance on striking a balance for sources for memoirists that would be helpful - the details of the subject's biography are of course sometimes unavoidably best drawn from his own published work because memoir is about the self. Many thanks for your consideration. DeEsCeHa (talk) 02:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)DeEsCeHa‬

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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hello, Can you help put me through the ways to write on here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss Dike (talkcontribs) 09:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Guidance posted to user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Burnt fynbos

Hi Jimfbleak. Hope 2025 has ricked off just right for you. I came across a reference to burnt in the Portuguese translation of the article, and I see that you introduced that element here. Could you please clarify, so I can adjust the Portuguese to read better? Thanks. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 13:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia, that's going back a bit! Bustards are birds of open country, and the bushy nature of fynbos would be unsuitable, but burning effectively creates open habitat, at least until the shrubs regrow. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that makes sense. As a child I used to see them running at dusk in the Iona National Park in Namibe Province in southern Angola, which – like you said – is open country. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 14:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)