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== Sock? ==
== 1934 FIFA World Cup qualifiers ==


Regarding ,who is this IP a sock of? We've been having issues with the user edit warring on ]. Thanks. - ] (]) 17:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I want you to read this . It's from FIFA.com, the most reliable sources and which confirms that the team who played as Mandatory Palestine in 1934 World Cup qualifiers is the direct predecessor for the current Palestinian national football team.--] (]) 21:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for the reply, affilated since 1998 and 1929. Both founded in the same year 1928. But please discuss this at the football project page for a wider community view. Thanks again. ] (]) 21:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC) :The IP is most likely a sock of ], or an account that was taught to be his but failed SPI ], thin evidence these were linked. on MFIreland, and relating to the edits carried out by MFIreland and possible socks, which shows the long term abuse pattern. ] (]) 09:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


== Tyson Fury == == Unsourced ==


Hi Murry, you've restored unsourced material back to ]. If you can't reference it, it can't stay. ] (]) 17:20, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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:Hi Lapsed, long time, all good? You wording was, well, crap, what are constitutional nationalist? I missed Robert Emmets removal, he was indeed a protestant republican. What part would you like a source for, tag and I will try to find one for you. ] (]) 17:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


::Your commentary is still interesting, if not always clear. You've really never heard the phrase 'constitutional nationalist'? I removed uncited material; whatever you want to keep, you may source. ] (]) 17:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
"(Reverted good faith edits by Sweeney581 (talk): As per pervious. (TW)) (undo | thank)"
:::Under one constitutional national government, but used to describe two nationalist under two different constitutions (Uk and Ireland ones) what does it mean? ] (]) 18:24, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


means, but why did you change what I'd written? ] (]) 14:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC) ::::One more time? ] (]) 14:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


:::::I have answered (presuming you mean " You've really never heard the phrase 'constitutional nationalist'?" as it was the only question that you could possibly be repeating, but then again), and asked a question. ] (]) 19:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
:It means I revert it to read what it previously read, as per the talkpage and consensus.
:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=479205&cat=boxer shows British
:http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/203415.html# Calls him British
:Also linking Ireland to Irish isnt done in the modern era (post independence).] (]) 15:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
:http://www.irish-boxing.com/2012/07/tyson-fury-stripped-of-irish-heavyweight-title/ Makes interesting reading, will add it to the tp. ] (]) 15:16, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


::::::Is it a yes or a no answer? ] (]) 15:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer. I made the change after nobody replied to my comments in the talk page. Boxrec only ever lists one nationality, and there are lots of news articles that call him Irish. If you don't object, I'll change it back to my version tomorrow? As for his title being stripped, that was because he subsequently fought under a British license (which he needed to do to fight in England), not because he didn't qualify as Irish. (I don't know if this talk page or the Tyson Fury talk page is the correct place to discuss this) ] (]) 15:16, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


:::::::Lapsed are you having difficulty in following linear conversations? ] (]) 19:14, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
:I object, he boxes as a British boxer, the link above shows how this lost him the Irish title, he cant fight for British titles with an Irish licience, but he still can fight in the UK with an Irish one, there are plenty of Irish boxers in Austrlia,the US and UK who fight under irish ones. Also the reason why nobody replied is, as you also done here, we post at the bottom of talkpages, a stale discussion line from over 18 months ago. Post at the bottom or on recent discussions, if they are not there start a new one. ] (]) 15:24, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


::::::::Let's try it from another angle. What did you mean by 'what are constitutional nationalist?' ] (]) 19:49, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
So I should have put this under the 1934 bit? He can fight in Britain with an Irish license, but it's easier with a BBBofC license because you don't have to deal with the foreign boxer requirements. ] (]) 15:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


:::::::::You still have not managed to answer my question
:Then it his choice of conveince to remain a British boxer, and on wikipedia thats what he should remain. PS dont worry about the order I will sort it later bud. ] (]) 15:43, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::"Under one constitutional national government, but used to describe two nationalist under two different constitutions (Uk and Ireland ones) what does it mean?"
:::::::::Noiw Lapsed pacifist you can either answer or just go away and edit the Corrib article. ] (]) 19:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::You seem to have more than one wire crossed here. I've no idea how to interpret your question. ] (]) 20:02, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


== you keep taking down my yola posts ==
== Your comment ==


murray why do you keep taking down my yola language posts? ] (]) 10:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I just find it very hard to believe he is watching every single page I have just edited plus the fact that he reverted every single one of my edits without a single word to me on my talk page not to mention he accused me of POV in one of his edit summaries, not a very good experience, it kind of puts me off from editing. ] (]) 22:06, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
:In placenames, we only use English and Irish, unless the name is derived from another language (Wexford is a good example). Don't keep adding Yola names in modern named articles (the Irish Sea), the is a manual of style, ] and a dedicated Irish one ]. ] (]) 19:32, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


== Bryan Bryne & MOS ==
:I have added more on his page. Yes he has, in my dealing with him, near enough all Irish politcal articles covered on his watchlist, he is a decent enough guy and discussion is the only way. Edit a football article or something unrelated, dont edit war, its Irish politics and can end up getting messy. ] (]) 22:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


Saw your recent edit to ]. Curious as to where this MOS reference resides. Surely as someone who lives in Ireland, you know the distinct difference between ], ], and ]. I've never seen birth attribution to an island/geographic location vs. the actual governmental state in which they were born under. Can you point me in the right direction? ] (]) 12:57, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah ok, I retracted my accusation which I wrote when I was frustrated on seeing all my edits reverted. I must assume good faith after all. ] (]) 23:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
:], is the piece. Ireland is the name of the state and island, ROI is where the article is at. ] (]) 14:02, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
::{{ping|Murry1975}} Perfect! I had not seen that before, thanks for sharing! ] (]) 14:51, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


== User page vandalism ==


I appreciate you looking out for the vandal on my user page (curious how you noticed it, but no mind.) It's only one user who is hopping on 2 IPs. I can handle him. But much appreciated. ] ] 01:33, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
:I have your page on my watchlist, I add talkpages of editors when I post on them so I am notified of a reply. ] (]) 09:59, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Thanks for the lookout again. ] ] 12:10, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


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Regarding Mulgrew and Commons. I work for Celtic Fc. I know these lads. I know they had the kids out of wedlock. It's a fact. It's on their twitter. Charlie even got arrested for abuse to his child. Facts are online. Check for yourself ! Now fuck off. I know I am right. I will called Krissy and Chico right now.happy?
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: I would put County Kilkenny. The sentence is: "Born in Kilkenny, he was the fourth generation of his family to serve in the British Army." That's all. I would do it myself but I'm grafting away on the UDR stuff. Pity we hadn't got a good image of Baxter. I'll have a wee rake about. ] (]) 13:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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== COI == == Michael Fassbender? ==
Hi Murray, please don't feel the need to correct someone who says that they're Irish from being that way. Yes, he's German born but identifies himself as being an Irish person. He's Irish born, raised, educated, lived most his life, parents still live there. It's not a technicality like say, Jimmy Carr, having Irish parents; he's still English. I have a girlfriend with a German father, she's not identified as German-Irish or Irish-German. This is more relevant in the USA no doubt, where many are from 2 places, living in a third. Please leave this as it is, thanks. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:05, 13 April 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Jimmy Carr is Irish-British in his article. "he's German born but identifies himself as being an Irish person" well "''I suppose the German side wants to keep everything in control, and the Irish side wants to wreak havoc!''". He was NOT born in Ireland, West Germany actually. You have a girlfriend, well done, I was worried about you. ] (]) 18:30, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


I never said that he was Irish born. He's an Irish person. Stop trying to annoy other people please, just leave the article as it is. I'm not taking citation from one Newspaper interview or article. Just leave it as it is. You're clearly being a troll by insulting and leaving sarcastic remarks. Leave it alone. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Accusing someone of COI without explaining what it is that you think the conflict is, is bad faith. COI applies where a person may benefit personally from something. You haven't even gone anywhere near establishing that. Nor have you addressed the core question, which is about bibliographic accuracy. I see you are a relatively new editor, so you be forgiven, but you have been heavy-handed in your assumptions and have not backed it up with relevant argument. -- ]·] 13:12, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
:Micheal, I have indeed backed-up my point. You are trying to conform MOS here to mirror the MOS your publishing company use. Until consensus is reached, please dont revert. Bibliographic accuracy can co-exist with commonname policy, linking non-English names to the article shouldnt be done, its English wiki. The average reader would have to follow every link to find out actually where they are published and this in essence is unencyclopedic. Misplaced Pages is meant to be informative to many different levels of knowledge and understanding, a 💕 for the masses, most people in Ireland dont know where Cathair na Mairt is, and the general poplulation has been exposed to a least 9 years of Irish, so I dont expect some one from to grasp it either.
:I will read over some articles and get back with a proposal that hopefully will suit all. Thanks for taking the time to reply here. ] (]) 13:53, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


:"He's Irish born, raised, educated, lived most his life, parents still live there." your words from above. And we use citations not opinions on here so the TWO sources provided should be good. BTW you are trolling, you remind me of for some reason. ] (]) 08:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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Ok, murry, I'll retract that: He's Irish raised, educated, lived most his life, parents still live there, Irish accent too, speaks the Irish language - which is an indigenous language, unlike German or English; it's not spoken anywhere else. If you speak Irish, you're from there. This has no impact on you at all, but it matters to others, so why not just leave it be? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Be mindful when reverting/reporting vandalism. is not vandalism and is actually a proper grammatical correction. ] (]) 14:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
::You are not doing things in the correct way. You are using your view, and understanding of how things work. At birth Fassbender, born in Germany to a German father, was German. His mother is from Northern Ireland, so he was also ''entitled'' to British and Irish citizenship, which he has since used in the Irish sense. I have used his own words and and those of others. He also speaks German, btw. Why don;'t ou leave it as it is sourced? Also Irish is spoken in Canada, in a gealtacht for your further learning on here. Stop using ]. ] (]) 09:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)


== Daniel Devine == == Lapsed Pacifist ==


Hi. I'm curious why you're so insistent that Gob Lofa is a sockpuppet of Lapsed Pacifist. I had a look over LP's history again there, and I can see the similarity in the way that he called editors out on article talk pages and demanded answers from them, but apart from that I didn't think his talk page style was very like Gog Lofa's. Also, LP had very obvious political biases, such as never referring to Northern Ireland as Northern Ireland, which aren't apparent in Gob Lofa. There is currently a great barney going on at ], a page where LP was once heavily involved (see ]), but Gob Lofa appears to be blissfully unaware of it. LP was also heavily involved at ], but Gob Lofa's edits to that article have been purely gnomish. It would be surprising if somebody as disruptive as LP was able to operate a sock account for years without more editors noticing it. Sometimes an editor who annoys you is just that; it isn't always a sock of somebody else. ] (]) 09:48, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, no bother. I assumed that as he stated he no longer wants to be considered for Northern Ireland's national team - opting instead for the Republic, that the ROI would be his designated flag. Sorry for reverting your edit. I'll go and change his flag on the Inverness CT 'current season' page. Cheers. ] (])
:Did you ever see The Usual Suspects? "The greatest trick the devil ever played..." I am just too busy at the moment to file the SPI. I pop on and off here too much at the moment. But shares in common with Gob, one would expect. , who frequently overlap. There are more little ones, like Zoot Suit riots, odd ones that two completely different editors could never make, who would think of "White American" being "European-American" the exact same edit, in an obscure. There are plenty of others on those lists, if you have time feel free to read them. ] (]) 20:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
::Wow. Yes, you have obviously done your homework. Carry on, and I won't say anything again. ] (]) 06:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


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== Anon IP ==


:I'm sad to say that the IP beat me to it and with a lot less evidence than I had gathered, but the claim was concrete. Good days for the Ireland WikiProject and Misplaced Pages in general to have Lapsed Pacifist banished. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:35, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
An ?. Pretty serious stuff for a new IP... --] (]) 14:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks guys. Sorry really busy at the moment. Will be back on when I can. IP, good work, but it leaves me wondering who you are. Until then. Enjoy the summer and don't eat too much BBQ 😉 ] (]) 17:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:lol, new, lol, good one :)
:Both Zoombox and this IP arent new, as their knowledge of wiki proceses shows, and the admins at AN/I quite rightly picked up on it, both hey we could be the same guy! Actually we do have a bit in common bud, both Irish third-level educated dyslexics who edit in the same area and gnome it with IMOS. The IP is wikistalking my edits now, I have left a message for him to stop, if he doesnt I will report it, then the IP will get blocked and the actual account that uses it would get blocked too due to this. The admins will get a collatteral unblock request and hey BINGO. ] (]) 15:01, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


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Hey there, I had based nationality on this "Note: Flags indicate national team as has been defined under FIFA eligibility rules." which is true for Doherty.] (]) 18:23, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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He's been at it again. Keeps reverting the consensus on the Irish counties. I'm afraid that I indulged in some edit warring. ] (]) 21:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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:::Step back, dont do anything silly bud. I saw his edits earlier and was trying to come to a phrasing for discussion that he may respond to. Dont revert anymore, its really not worth it. And he shouldnt stick to planes either from what I have seen :) Joking aside we have to get him to dicuss his issues, if he doesnt then other actions may be needed. Its a content dispute, so AN/I isnt going to help. Will template aswell it might help. ] (]) 21:42, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


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hi , your saying there are 37 counties in Ireland {republic and northern ] when there are only 32 .Fingal,South Dublin north Tipperary are administrative counties,what are basically , divisions of counties what act together to run the county .i hope to be helpful so pretty please stop <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:51, 14 August 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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I will give it a try, probably tomorrow. The only thing is the wording of the RFC has to be neutral and not giuiding, either way, and this is a little hard, it has to be worded carefully. I have been thinking about, just give me until tommorow morning. ] (]) 18:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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Sock?

Regarding this edit,who is this IP a sock of? We've been having issues with the user edit warring on another article. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 17:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

The IP is most likely a sock of User:Vintagekits, or an account that was taught to be his but failed SPI User:MFIreland, thin evidence these were linked. Here was the last SPI filing on MFIreland, and here is a very helpful list relating to the edits carried out by MFIreland and possible socks, which shows the long term abuse pattern. Murry1975 (talk) 09:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Murry, you've restored unsourced material back to Unionism in Ireland. If you can't reference it, it can't stay. Gob Lofa (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Lapsed, long time, all good? You wording was, well, crap, what are constitutional nationalist? I missed Robert Emmets removal, he was indeed a protestant republican. What part would you like a source for, tag and I will try to find one for you. Murry1975 (talk) 17:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Your commentary is still interesting, if not always clear. You've really never heard the phrase 'constitutional nationalist'? I removed uncited material; whatever you want to keep, you may source. Gob Lofa (talk) 17:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Under one constitutional national government, but used to describe two nationalist under two different constitutions (Uk and Ireland ones) what does it mean? Murry1975 (talk) 18:24, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
One more time? Gob Lofa (talk) 14:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I have answered (presuming you mean " You've really never heard the phrase 'constitutional nationalist'?" as it was the only question that you could possibly be repeating, but then again), and asked a question. Murry1975 (talk) 19:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Is it a yes or a no answer? Gob Lofa (talk) 15:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Lapsed are you having difficulty in following linear conversations? Murry1975 (talk) 19:14, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Let's try it from another angle. What did you mean by 'what are constitutional nationalist?' Gob Lofa (talk) 19:49, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
You still have not managed to answer my question
"Under one constitutional national government, but used to describe two nationalist under two different constitutions (Uk and Ireland ones) what does it mean?"
Noiw Lapsed pacifist you can either answer or just go away and edit the Corrib article. Murry1975 (talk) 19:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
You seem to have more than one wire crossed here. I've no idea how to interpret your question. Gob Lofa (talk) 20:02, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

you keep taking down my yola posts

murray why do you keep taking down my yola language posts? Yola12345 (talk) 10:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

In placenames, we only use English and Irish, unless the name is derived from another language (Wexford is a good example). Don't keep adding Yola names in modern named articles (the Irish Sea), the is a manual of style, WP:MOS and a dedicated Irish one WP:IMOS. Murry1975 (talk) 19:32, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Bryan Bryne & MOS

Saw your recent edit to Bryan Byrne. Curious as to where this MOS reference resides. Surely as someone who lives in Ireland, you know the distinct difference between Ireland, Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland. I've never seen birth attribution to an island/geographic location vs. the actual governmental state in which they were born under. Can you point me in the right direction? GauchoDude (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

WP:IRE-IRL, is the piece. Ireland is the name of the state and island, ROI is where the article is at. Murry1975 (talk) 14:02, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
@Murry1975: Perfect! I had not seen that before, thanks for sharing! GauchoDude (talk) 14:51, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

User page vandalism

I appreciate you looking out for the vandal on my user page (curious how you noticed it, but no mind.) It's only one user who is hopping on 2 IPs. I can handle him. But much appreciated. Canterbury Tail talk 01:33, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

I have your page on my watchlist, I add talkpages of editors when I post on them so I am notified of a reply. Murry1975 (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thanks for the lookout again. Canterbury Tail talk 12:10, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

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Michael Fassbender?

Hi Murray, please don't feel the need to correct someone who says that they're Irish from being that way. Yes, he's German born but identifies himself as being an Irish person. He's Irish born, raised, educated, lived most his life, parents still live there. It's not a technicality like say, Jimmy Carr, having Irish parents; he's still English. I have a girlfriend with a German father, she's not identified as German-Irish or Irish-German. This is more relevant in the USA no doubt, where many are from 2 places, living in a third. Please leave this as it is, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.234.101 (talk) 16:05, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Jimmy Carr is Irish-British in his article. "he's German born but identifies himself as being an Irish person" well in his own words "I suppose the German side wants to keep everything in control, and the Irish side wants to wreak havoc!". He was NOT born in Ireland, West Germany actually. You have a girlfriend, well done, I was worried about you. Murry1975 (talk) 18:30, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

I never said that he was Irish born. He's an Irish person. Stop trying to annoy other people please, just leave the article as it is. I'm not taking citation from one Newspaper interview or article. Just leave it as it is. You're clearly being a troll by insulting and leaving sarcastic remarks. Leave it alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.234.101 (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

"He's Irish born, raised, educated, lived most his life, parents still live there." your words from above. And we use citations not opinions on here so the TWO sources provided should be good. BTW you are trolling, you remind me of guy for some reason. Murry1975 (talk) 08:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, murry, I'll retract that: He's Irish raised, educated, lived most his life, parents still live there, Irish accent too, speaks the Irish language - which is an indigenous language, unlike German or English; it's not spoken anywhere else. If you speak Irish, you're from there. This has no impact on you at all, but it matters to others, so why not just leave it be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavquinn87 (talkcontribs) 09:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

You are not doing things in the correct way. You are using your view, and understanding of how things work. At birth Fassbender, born in Germany to a German father, was German. His mother is from Northern Ireland, so he was also entitled to British and Irish citizenship, which he has since used in the Irish sense. I have used his own words and and those of others. He also speaks German, btw. Why don;'t ou leave it as it is sourced? Also Irish is spoken in Canada, in a gealtacht for your further learning on here. Stop using your own idieas on here. Murry1975 (talk) 09:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Lapsed Pacifist

Hi. I'm curious why you're so insistent that Gob Lofa is a sockpuppet of Lapsed Pacifist. I had a look over LP's history again there, and I can see the similarity in the way that he called editors out on article talk pages and demanded answers from them, but apart from that I didn't think his talk page style was very like Gog Lofa's. Also, LP had very obvious political biases, such as never referring to Northern Ireland as Northern Ireland, which aren't apparent in Gob Lofa. There is currently a great barney going on at Talk:Flag of Northern Ireland, a page where LP was once heavily involved (see here), but Gob Lofa appears to be blissfully unaware of it. LP was also heavily involved at Talk:Shell to Sea, but Gob Lofa's edits to that article have been purely gnomish. It would be surprising if somebody as disruptive as LP was able to operate a sock account for years without more editors noticing it. Sometimes an editor who annoys you is just that; it isn't always a sock of somebody else. Scolaire (talk) 09:48, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Did you ever see The Usual Suspects? "The greatest trick the devil ever played..." I am just too busy at the moment to file the SPI. I pop on and off here too much at the moment. But Lapsed shares stuff in common with Gob, more than one would expect. Just compare you and I, who frequently overlap. There are more little ones, like Zoot Suit riots, odd ones that two completely different editors could never make, who would think of "White American" being "European-American" the exact same edit, in an obscure. There are plenty of others on those lists, if you have time feel free to read them. Murry1975 (talk) 20:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Wow. Yes, you have obviously done your homework. Carry on, and I won't say anything again. Scolaire (talk) 06:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

FYI Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lapsed Pacifist. In case you have anything to add. 2A02:C7D:3CBD:3100:3484:50F5:95D9:27B1 (talk) 12:40, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm sad to say that the IP beat me to it and with a lot less evidence than I had gathered, but the claim was concrete. Good days for the Ireland WikiProject and Misplaced Pages in general to have Lapsed Pacifist banished. Mabuska 13:35, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks guys. Sorry really busy at the moment. Will be back on when I can. IP, good work, but it leaves me wondering who you are. Until then. Enjoy the summer and don't eat too much BBQ 😉 Murry1975 (talk) 17:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

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