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| Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources. There is one OK source, the ] one. Others are a blog where the band talks about themselves and trivial mention. Nothing satisfying ]. A search found no better sources. ] (]) 11:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC | Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources. There is one OK source, the ] one. Others are a blog where the band talks about themselves and trivial mention. Nothing satisfying ]. A search found no better sources. ] (]) 11:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| '''Oppose.''' At least two notable members, thus satisfying ].--] (]) 17:57, 29 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::<b>NEITHER, CAN'T VOTE but vcan set record straight for these rocker dudes with help of wiki archives</b>(was a member, full, doesnt matter in regards to Misplaced Pages guidelines at the present time as far as for how long I rocked the kit for BSSBFTUK with Swedish Design but man it must have been for a year total at least I think) C'mon read the talk page before wild ACD crusades. namely <b>"...even the notability of Blanket Statementstein was already established before you started commenting....</b>"I didn't write that (see below) Cmon. stop trying to get rid of Dennis Donaghy's *(my) page and BSS's. I'm not sticking up for them as in 'for them' cuz I'm not with (or against) them since 2007 but as a fan the tunes rock and the band is quite unique. So Basically, uhhh I mean I pretty much suck at Misplaced Pages but did you forget to read the Blanketstatementstein Back From The UK With Swedish Design uhh talk page? It goes something like this a one a two a three (please note I have completely ZERO association with this band other than FanShip right now haven't seen those dudes since I locked my car keys in my car at monsey ny in 07) a one a two "Per the Notability issue | |||
| :'''Comment''' I think the trouble with that is that (beyond the fact that eg ] doesn't even mention the band at all) there is circular notability going on, where the musicians are notable because of having been in two notable bands, one of which is this one, which is notable because those musicians were in it. ] (]) 00:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| The notability on this is admittedly a bit of a stretch compared to my other articles, but it does meet at least criteria 6 of WP:BAND; guitarist Mike Wagner has been in several other notable bands, and drummer Paul Alpert is also in Moshiach Oi! and the Moshe Hecht Band.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi this is Dennis, can I request to be removed or is the source attribution firmly validated despite my desire for anonymity? Thanks. | |||
| Mr. Donaghy, I appreciate your concerns about being included in this article and thank you for trying to help. However, there are a couple problems with your request: | |||
| Because this is the internet and Misplaced Pages is a "💕", there's no way of knowing if you are actually Dennis Donaghy. I'm pretty sure you are, but anybody could just put the name after their message. | |||
| The article cites an interview with guitarist Mike Wagner in which he names Dennis Donaghy as a one-time member. | |||
| So, for now at least, we can't remove you from the list.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :The band does have 4 blue linked musicians but how many are independently notable? | |||
| No two ways about it then- my own individual notability has basically been established now, since White Shabbos is notably in the New York Times, and another former band of mine is notable on their own as well. Can't say I didn't try it the other way though Thank you - Dennis | |||
| ::]. Seems to only be notable as a member of two notable bands, this one included. So not notable independent of this band. | |||
| To be honest, I wasn't even discussing (much less questioning) your notability at all, and even the notability of Blanket Statementstein was already established before you started commenting. I thought all we were talking about was whether you should be listed in this article. Nevertheless, you do seem to have some notable accomplishments, so I'll see what I can do about getting you an article. TTYL.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 16:34, 21 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::]. Same as above and also see ] | |||
| Never mind, didn't realize you had made this. Congratulations.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 16:37, 21 April 2013 (UTC)" | |||
| ::]. Seems to only be notable as a member of three notable bands. His notability is entirely dependent on his bands, not really independently notable. | |||
| :WP:MUSIC#6 is meant to be for inheriting notability from someone who has inherited it from someone else. ] (]) 11:44, 30 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| '''Delete''' Has no evidence for notability except for the "members are individually notable" criterion. However, as demonstrated above, these individuals are not really notable, but rather can only be considered notable by the '"member of several notable bands" criterion. These are circular claims of notability. ] (]) 05:22, 7 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| '''Delete''' Concur with above, circular notability is no notability at all. ] (]) 07:48, 7 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 12:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Blanket Statementstein
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Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources. There is one OK source, the Tablet Magazine one. Others are a blog where the band talks about themselves and trivial mention. Nothing satisfying WP:MUSIC. A search found no better sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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Oppose. At least two notable members, thus satisfying WP:BAND.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 17:57, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
- Comment I think the trouble with that is that (beyond the fact that eg Mike Wagner (musician) doesn't even mention the band at all) there is circular notability going on, where the musicians are notable because of having been in two notable bands, one of which is this one, which is notable because those musicians were in it. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- The band does have 4 blue linked musicians but how many are independently notable?
- Yishai Romanoff. Seems to only be notable as a member of two notable bands, this one included. So not notable independent of this band.
- Dennis Donaghy. Same as above and also see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dennis Donaghy
- Paul Alpert. Seems to only be notable as a member of three notable bands. His notability is entirely dependent on his bands, not really independently notable.
- WP:MUSIC#6 is meant to be for inheriting notability from someone who has inherited it from someone else. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:44, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 07:30, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Delete Has no evidence for notability except for the "members are individually notable" criterion. However, as demonstrated above, these individuals are not really notable, but rather can only be considered notable by the '"member of several notable bands" criterion. These are circular claims of notability. LK (talk) 05:22, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Delete Concur with above, circular notability is no notability at all. 78.105.23.161 (talk) 07:48, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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