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'''Speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' of categories may be requested <em>only</em> if they meet a ''']''', for example ] (consistency with main article's name) or ] (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below. | |||
# '''Determine''' which '''speedy criterion''' applies | |||
Categories may be listed here if they fall under the criteria specified below. Deletion and de-listing may occur after '''48 hours''' if there are no objections. '''They must be tagged with {{tlsp|cfr-speedy|newname}} so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal'''. This delay is to allow for objections over correct spelling, etc. to be made and to ensure that items are not processed that do not meet the criteria. | |||
# '''Tag category page''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} or {{tlsx|cfm-speedy|''Merge target''}} | |||
# '''List request''' along with ] reason under "]" below on this page | |||
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at ]. | |||
Categories that qualify for speedy ''deletion'' (per ], e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", categories that have been empty for four days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlp|db|reason}}, and no delay is required for these. Renaming under ] can also be processed instantly, as it is a variation on ]. | |||
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change. | |||
Contested requests can be removed from this list after 48 hours. If the nominator wants to continue the process they need to submit the request as a regular CfD using the instructions <noinclude>]</noinclude><includeonly>above</includeonly>. | |||
Categories that qualify for '''speedy deletion''' (per ], e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{tl|db-empty}}. Renaming under ] may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on ]. | |||
=== Speedy criteria === | |||
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination: | |||
The category-specific criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging are '''''strictly''''' limited to: | |||
*'''Oppose''', (the reasons for your objection). <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Speedy/Criteria}} | |||
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section ] or the page ] (]). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search ] to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy. | |||
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{tlx|moved discussion from|<nowiki>]|2=~~~~</nowiki>}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at ] (CfD) in accordance with ]. | |||
:A nomination to '''merge''' or '''rename''', brought forward as a full ], may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that: | |||
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who . If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion. | |||
** The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed above, and;'' | |||
** No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.'' | |||
===Speedy criteria=== | |||
:If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus. | |||
{{shortcut|WP:C2}} | |||
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are <strong style="font-style:italic;">strictly</strong> limited to: | |||
{{Anchor|C2A|c2a}} | |||
=== Add requests for speedy renaming here === | |||
====C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes==== | |||
'''If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria in C2 listed above, ''do not list it here''. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.''' | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2A}} | |||
* Correction of spelling errors and ]. Differences between ] (e.g. ''Harbours → Harbors'') are <strong>not</strong> considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under ]. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged. | |||
* Appropriate conversion of hyphens into ] or ] (e.g. ''Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations''). | |||
*Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing ] (e.g. ''Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads''). This includes ]izing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a ]. | |||
{{Anchor|C2B|c2b}} | |||
====C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices==== | |||
'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, ''do not list it here.''''' | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2B}} | |||
* ] (e.g. ''U.S. → United States''). | |||
* ] fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. ''Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state)'' or ''Category:Washington, D.C.''). | |||
{{Anchor|C2C|c2c}} | |||
====C2C: Consistency with established category tree names==== | |||
Use the following format: | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2C}} | |||
:'''<nowiki>* ] to ] – Reason for rename ~~~~</nowiki>''' | |||
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "''x by y''", "''x of y''", or "''x in y''" categorization conventions specified at ] | |||
* This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory. | |||
* This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination. | |||
* This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. '']'' and '']''). | |||
{{Anchor|C2D|c2d}} | |||
====C2D: Consistency with main article's name==== | |||
'''Don't forget to tag the category with {{tlsp|Cfr-speedy|newname}}''' | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2D}} | |||
* Renaming a ] to match its eponymous page (e.g. ] and ]). | |||
* This applies <strong style="font-style:italic;">only</strong> if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is: | |||
**<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">unambiguous</em> (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and | |||
**<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">uncontroversial</em>, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at ], or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a '''no consensus''' result, or it is controversial in some other way. | |||
*This criterion may also be used to rename a ] in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district. | |||
* Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category. | |||
{{Anchor|C2E|c2e}} | |||
====C2E: Author request==== | |||
Please add new entries at the '''top''' of the list and sign and date stamp your entries with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2E}} | |||
*This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category. | |||
*The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming. | |||
====C2F: One eponymous page==== | |||
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, the time stamp shown is {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}} <small>({{Purge}})</small> or earlier. | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2F}} | |||
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* This criterion applies if the category contains ''only'' an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{tlsx|cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at ], you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them. | |||
====Current nominations==== | |||
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* ] to ] – C2B per ]/] ] <sup>]</sup> 18:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2B per {{Cat|Hassan II of Morocco}}/] ] <sup>]</sup> 18:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2D per ] ] <sup>]</sup> 18:41, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2.D, per ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 05:41, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2A ] <sup>]</sup> 21:43, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*] to ] – C2D: Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous article ] (]) 20:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2D: To match ] article. ] (]) 14:19, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*: This would be C2.C, per the convention of ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 02:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*: This is outside the scope of speedy renaming, but why are all of these category titles singular? All of the countries listed above have had ''multiple'' democracy movement''s'', sometimes separated by years or decades and with entirely different goals. To suggest, as these titles do, that any country has experienced a single, cohesive movement toward democracy (and to think of democracy as an "final level" that can be reached definitively, and after which there are no democracy movements) is highly simplistic. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 03:10, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2.A/C2.C: the convention of ] is to use the titular form of ''Bishops of (Diocese)'', prefixed by ''Roman Catholic''. In this case, see ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 00:13, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''Comment'''. But many subcategories of the parent category {{Cat|City districts}} are without "city" prefix. 22:39, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:: '''Comment''' But the other two subcategories of {{cat|City districts of Russia}} also use the "city" prefix. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:07, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::That's true, but the Russian districts are the only ones (as far as I can tell) that are actually named ''Foo City District''. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 03:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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===Admin instructions=== | |||
* ] to ] – C2C per the convention of {{cat|Songs from films}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:41, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
When handling the listings: | |||
*: The Muppets is a franchise that included both films and television series. The convention for television series is not as clear-cut as it is for films; see, for example, ], ], and ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 21:18, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
# Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria. | |||
# With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously. | |||
# Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition. | |||
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at ], in the section "If the decision is to '''Rename''', '''Merge''', or '''Delete'''"; to list it for the bots, use the ]. | |||
====Applying speedy criteria in full discussions==== | |||
====Opposed nominations==== | |||
* A nomination to '''merge''' or '''rename''', brought forward as a full ], may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that: | |||
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** The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and | |||
** No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination. | |||
* If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus. | |||
{{Anchor|Add requests for speedy renaming here}} | |||
* ] to ] – C2D ]. ] (]) 01:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**: '''Oppose''' above two. ] redirects to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:50, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here== | |||
* ] to ] – C2D. ] (]) 16:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
''If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, {{em|do not list it here}}. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.'' | |||
*: '''Oppose''' IMO that's not the main article of category. Many of the articles in the category have no connection to it, and it would be better to just create ] as a subcategory. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, {{em|do not list it here}}.''' | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: per {{cat|Dublin (city)}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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** ] to ] (also C2A: per {{cat|Anglican archbishops by diocese in Ireland}} and its subcategories) | |||
**:'''Keep''' The geographic remit of the archbishops, both in the Roman and Anglican churches, extends beyond the city boundaries to include 6 counties: all of ], ], ], ] and parts of ] and ]. ] (]) 10:18, 23 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
Use the following format on a new line at the {{strong|beginning}} of the list: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | |||
* ] to ] – C2D: per ] <span style="border:1px solid #0072BC;padding:1px;">] ]</span> 04:18, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*: C2.D does not apply, since ] redirects to ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 05:17, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ]. – C2C. I ''believe'' this best respects the x of y structure currently in place. ] (]) 22:54, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*: I'm not sure whether C2.C applies on this one. I prefer your proposed naming convention, but there is also ] within ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 05:23, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Oppose speedy''' There is no clear convention for the use of "by" insteady of "in" at {{cat|Sports festivals in Spain}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2D per ]. ] (]) 22:31, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Hold''' I proposed to ] to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:56, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2B per ] ] <sup>]</sup> 19:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Comment''': I'm not sure this is clear cut. ] has various meanings, especially because it is also an adjective, but in the plural Marines has a clear primary meaning. I think I would prefer a ] discussion to move the lead article back to ]. This would fit better with most of the sub-cats, and even the page ]' line 1 says it's a marine corps. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 20:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::If you want to start an ], I have no objection to putting this on hold. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:38, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:::On hold pending ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 21:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:::: '''Comment''' this should be done if the requested move fails, because "marines" is ambiguous, as we have ] as a disambiguation page, with several items that would pluralize to "marines". (especially entire navies that are called "marines", and the merchant marines, etc.) -- ] (]) 07:34, 20 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2B: Check out "]", "]" and "]", along with the naming of "{{cl|Lists of counties of the United States}}". ] (]) 06:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2F: Effectively speedy deletion because the article is already in all parents. –] (]]) 20:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* Delete ] per C2F (none of the parents are really appropriate) ] ] 17:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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**'''Oppose until the code to change is identified''' We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. '''Note to closing admin''' Please do '''not''' list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. ] (]) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Oppose''' this one. The broad convention for categories of this sort, as illustrated under ], is to use the English name for the navy, except in cases where there are multiple navies that would fall under the same name but, due to historical distinctness, need to be subcategorised seperately (i.e. ] > ], ] > ]). As this was never an "Italian Navy", it should stand alone under ]; ''ideally'' it would be renamed to ] to fit the "Y X" convention there. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 11:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
**:Now at ]. <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 20:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*::I'm not sure your sense of a convention there is necessarily accurate. It just as easily could be said that the convention is that the categories are named after the main article, which is the overriding general convention anyway. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:32, 21 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: Per ] <span style="white-space:nowrap">] (HouseBlaster's alt • ] • he/they)</span> 09:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:::While that may be true, it doesn't change the fact that all other subcategories of ] use the English name. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 20:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*::::Well, yeah—because the main articles for each uses the English name. If you look hard enough, you can find "patters" and "conventions" that seem to be based on any number of factors, but they are not necessarily the controlling one. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:17, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*:::::'''Comment''' Proposer moved the category to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
**'''Oppose until the code to change is identified''' We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. '''Note to closing admin''' Please do '''not''' list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. ] (]) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**:{{yo|MSGJ}} I believe this should already be handled by your updates to ]? Thanks, <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**::I have not looked at any of the intersecting categories yet, so if it is working then it is by luck not design. — Martin <small>(] · ])</small> 05:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**:::In that case, I withdraw these until the code is changed. <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 20:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**:::* {{ping|HouseBlaster}} should the discussion here be moved to the "On hold" section below and should the category pages remain tagged, or would you untag the category pages? ] (]) 08:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
===Opposed requests=== | |||
* ] to ] – C2A ] ] 23:18, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Comment''' Now at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:21, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A. ] of "World War I" is "First World War". There is a parent category, '''British Empire in World War I''', but I'm not sure of the "reach" the British naming. I also changed the preposition, so maybe not speedy. ] (]) 21:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
** '''Oppose''' Breaks consistency with ]. ] ] 05:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**:It does, but there are many other such breaks, see for instance ], and its child categories ] and ]. | |||
**:It's a reality that sometimes one guideline conflicts with another. This request follows C2A: Differences between British and American spelling. ] (]) 17:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Oppose''' per above. ] (]) 11:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2C: ]. ] (]) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
:* {{ping|LIrala}} it should rather become ] per e.g. ] and ]. ] (]) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Comment''' Nominated for deletion ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A: ]; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are ]s. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. ] (]) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2D: per ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Speedy oppose'''. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have ] as the parent category. ] 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*** {{ping|HandsomeFella}} do you want to take this to full CfD? ] (]) 17:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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***:Yes please. ] (]) 20:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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***::{{yo|HandsomeFella}} typically, you do that yourself. See ], which can automate this process :) Best, <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 03:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**: '''Comment''': I'm not sure these should be speedied, as there was no consensus at a full ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 08:42, 23 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
***:::Sure, but he asked. ] (]) 05:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**:: '''Comment''' Moved them to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:53, 25 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
***:::* {{ping|HandsomeFella}} I was just reminding you that this is still pending. ] (]) 21:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
***:::*:I don't get it. Weren't you offering to do it? ] (]) 21:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
***:::*:* {{ping|HandsomeFella}} not at all. I would have archived the discussion if you wouldn't undertake action within a week or so. ] (]) 22:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2C: a few birds such as the Choiseul pigeon or the broad-billed parrot are contemporarily extinct ; the others are prehistoric ans should be moved to a relevant category (by renaming this one?) --] (]) 12:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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** {{ping|Couiros22}} not sure that this fits speedy because ] is a valid category tree too. ] (]) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
**:the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --] (]) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::In that case, just create a new category? - ] <sub>]</sub> 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**I agree that this doesn't really fit ]. Also, the established naming scheme for this category tree is {{cat|Monotypic prehistoric animal genera}}, not {{cat|Prehistoric monotypic animal genera}}. ] (]) 23:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Oppose''' It looks to me, that this isn't the main article of the category, as almost one of the pages in the category mention it outside of the "See also" section. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:: I don't understand what problems with this renaming. All articles about Sea launches. Current category name is terrible. ] (]) 12:27, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::: The article ] is about a Russian space launch service, and only ] has any relation to it. The current name may be not ideal, but the proposed name isn't the solution. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:59, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:::: Understand. Maybe rename to {{cat|Sea launches}}? ] (]) 15:27, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::::: I'm not sure. It looks like the content of the category are space launch vehicles and spaceports, that are started/operated over sea. None the less, even if it was correct, it would need a full discussion, as it doesn't fall under any of the speedy criteria. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:::::: Thanks for your opinion. Please move this thread to full discussion. ] (]) 15:17, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:Moved to a ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 20:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" ] 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A: I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this–is that a compound modifier in "African Americans' rights"? ...Because it wouldn't be about Americans' rights activists who are African. ] (]) 23:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:* {{ping|Smasongarrison}} arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". ] (]) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Oppose''' It's not clear whether this should be renamed to {{cat|African-Americans civil rights activists}} or {{cat|Activists for African-American civil rights}}, there it needs a full discussion. Probably the later, as for example ] isn't African American. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:06, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:*:Both parents? ] also uses of ] 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::In the hyphenated form proposed by MQ, the presence of the possessive apostrophe signals that the category's title does not reflect the race of its members. It leaves only one meaning—activists for African-American rights—which is the intended meaning. I do agree that we should insert the word "civil", per ] and ]. However, I would prefer ] (with the possessive apostrophe) to ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 02:49, 3 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:*:* Right. There is ]. I guess "in" is technically more correct. ] (]) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
:*:*:Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? ] 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:* The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see ]. ] (]) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Oppose speedy''' There are fare more subcategories of {{cat|People whose existence is disputed}} that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*::Those are all being renamed to match this parent. ] ] 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::I nominated it for speedy before it was nominated for a full discussion. But that's fine if a user wants to move it to a full. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:32, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::: In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2D per ]. ] (]) 21:35, 16 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Oppose''' The only song in the article is by ]. ] wrote the lyrics and the score. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::Moved to ]. ] (]) 00:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''Oppose''' ambiguous with ], see ]. ''']''' (]) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*:'''Postpone''' until we know the result of the proposed move of ]. ]...''<small>]</small>'' 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:: This category, along with 17 similar ones, has been moved to a ]. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 00:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**: '''Oppose use of speedy'''. This is an ] issue. We can't speedy these unless one of the spellings has a clear connection to the subject matter; e.g., changing "programme" to "program" for a United States category, or "program" to "programme" for a UK category. See definition of C2A above, which kind of suggests that is ''may'' be done as a C2C in some circumstances. In this case, I'd be more comfortable with it going to a full CFD. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:33, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
**:: '''Comment''' Moved to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:15, 16 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] (over disambiguation) and subcategories – C2D per ] following ]. Note that several of the targets are filled by disambiguation pages from when ] was occupied by what is now at ]. ] (]) 23:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] - C2A (capitalization). Category already renamed and empty since '''2006''' (!), don't see any reason not to delete the redirect. ] (]) 09:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::This should probably go to full discussion. Per ]: {{tq|it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator}}. –] (]) 02:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Oppose'''. Category redirects are not eligible for speedy deletion via this process. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:*'''Oppose speedy''' per above. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*::'''Comment'''. Actually, the process tells that redirects are excluded from '''C1 - Unpopulated categories''', but does not say so for capitalization fixes, so they would be eligible. Besides, a look at shows that the user created this category and then immediately realised their mistake, transformed it into a ''hard redirect'' (!) and created the {{c|Muslim generals|correct category}}, obviously ignoring this process, so that would border on C2E. However, to skip the nitpicking, I created an entry at ]. ] (]) 09:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* Moved to full discussion at ]. ] (]) 10:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2D, and to some degree C2C with ] and ]. --] (]) 17:50, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**:'''Oppose''' - while "Tate" might well be a ] for the article, it is ambiguous for the category, see ], also ] is similar enough for potential confusion. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 22:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
**:: '''Comment''' Now at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''oppose''' as per MOS:JOBTITLES ''They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself'' the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well ]] 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*::The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., ], categories under ], categories under ], and categories under ]; see also articles like ], ], etc.) ] (]) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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** {{ping|WikiEditor50}} are you planning to move these to full discussion? ] (]) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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**:Hi. Yes, please do ] (]) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*:Now at ]. <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 03:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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****: '''Oppose speedy''' on all health care items. There is clearly not consensus on which version to use based on how many places it is a single word, so we really should do a full discussion. I don't care which form to use, but thise should not be a speedy issue. ] (]) 19:17, 25 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
****:: I'm not sure which form is more common but the ] title has been stable since 2003. ] (]) 19:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
****:::That doesn't quite matter: C2C "This criterion should only be applied when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination." Again, just look at how many cats you are looking to rename. Ergo, there is some doubt and it needs to go to a full CFD nom. ] (]) 06:11, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
****:::: '''Comment''' Moved all above to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See ] for example. ] (]) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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**:'''Oppose speedy rename''' - This would make the category inconsistent with the category-defining article, which is at ]. The hyphen has been omitted from the article as a result of significant debate and discussion. Changing the category should not be done without reference and discussion in a broader consensus process. ] (]) 08:55, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**:'''Oppose speedy rename''' as per above - the article is at ]. There is significant debate and discussion about the propriety and necessity of the hyphen in these cases, and it should not be done without debate. ] (]) 09:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**:'''Oppose speedy rename''' as per above - There is significant debate and discussion about the propriety and necessity of the hyphen in these cases, and renaming the categories should not be done without debate. ] (]) 09:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:* '''Oppose all''' needs discussion. ] (]) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::* What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--] (]) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::*I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. ] (]) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::::*So why don't you discuss it on ] instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (])? Here's an excerpt: ''"According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."'' Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East. | |||
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:::::Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--] (]) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the ] page, ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ] for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? ] (]) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:* {{ping|Russian Rocky}} are you planning to move this to full discussion? ] (]) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::* Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with ] on ] who said the following: ''"According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."'' | |||
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::* See ''The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies'' (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: .--] (]) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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**:'''Oppose speedy rename''' as per above. There is significant debate and discussion about the propriety and necessity of the hyphen in these cases, and renaming the categories should not be done without debate. ] (]) 09:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**: '''Oppose speedy rename''' as per above. There is significant debate and discussion about the propriety and necessity of the hyphen in these cases, and renaming the categories should not be done without debate. ] (]) 09:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A. ] (]) 08:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A. '''Or''' ] etc. as a "hanging" hyphen as per ]? ] (]) 08:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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**: '''Suggest alternative''' This should be renamed to {{cat|Hispanic and Latino-American music}} as C2C per {{cat|Hispanic and Latino American culture}} and {{cat|Hispanic and Latino American musicians}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:25, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2A: Compound modifier ] (]) 08:22, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2A: and main cat. name. ] (]) 22:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Oppose speedy rename''' as per above. There is significant debate and discussion about the propriety and necessity of the hyphen in these cases, and renaming the categories should not be done without debate. ] (]) 09:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:: '''Comment''' Moved the all the above to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of ]. ] (]) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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*:I do not think this is the speedy material. {{ping|OGBC1992}}, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? ] (]) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*::Hi @] I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. ] (]) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:: '''Comment''' Fisheries are not animals, therefore as currently named it shouldn't be in {{cat|Animal conservation organizations}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
** Moved to ]. ] (]) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::: '''Reply:''' I see your point. Fish are central to fisheries and to fisheries conservation, though. And renaming the category creates semantic inconsistencies and inaccuracies going the other way. Again, not a biggie. Kind regards, ] (]) 10:25, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
**: Discussion was relisted on ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*::: '''Suggestion:''' I would like to see a further discussion of this proposed category name change at ]. Thanks, ] (]) 15:13, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
*:::: '''Comment''' Moved to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
*::::: '''Comment''': Thank you. Kind regards, ] (]) 23:00, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War ] 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
**] I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. ] is a parent of ] and a grandparent of ]. ] (]) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Oppose''' They don't mean the same thing.Strictly speaking The ancient architecture in Turkey is not Turkish architecture. ] (]) 19:09, 10 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
**:Why is ] a parent of ]? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. ] 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::The ancient architecture of Turkey is being categorized in {{Cat|Turkish architecture by period}}, not in {{Cat|Architecture in Turkey}}—so yes, as far as categorization goes, they are the same thing. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:59, 10 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
**::Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. ] (]) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:Moved to ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:05, 10 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
**:::If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? ] 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::::Done at ]. ] (]) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:::::Discussion was relisted on ]. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: Per all other subcategories of ]. ] (]) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Oppose speedy''' The main article is ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:* Brought up for ].--] (]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:*: Discussion was relisted on ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: Per other categories in ]. ] (]) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** '''Oppose for speedy''', we should discuss whether ] is perhaps a better target. ] (]) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*** Agreed and brought up for ].--] (]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**** Discussion was relisted on ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
ShortcutThe category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
Shortcut- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices
Shortcut- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
ShortcutBringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Misplaced Pages:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
Shortcut- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
Shortcut- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
Shortcut- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 13:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 641 open requests (refresh).
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:2008 Asian Beach Games events to Category:Events at the 2008 Asian Beach Games – C2C: To match other naming schemes in Category:Events at multi-sport events, as well as to match the naming scheme in the sister categories of Category:Sports at the Asian Beach Games and Category:Nations at the Asian Beach Games. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:2010 Asian Beach Games events to Category:Events at the 2010 Asian Beach Games
- Category:2012 Asian Beach Games events to Category:Events at the 2012 Asian Beach Games
- Category:2014 Asian Beach Games events to Category:Events at the 2014 Asian Beach Games
- Category:2016 Asian Beach Games events to Category:Events at the 2016 Asian Beach Games
- Category:Gray Television to Category:Gray Media– C2D for a recently moved article per Talk:Gray_Media#Requested_move_2_January_2025 Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 11:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:FSK St. Pölten-Spratzern players to Category:SKN St. Pölten (women) players – C2D Snowflake91 (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Vileyka District to Category:People from Vileyka district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Valozhyn District to Category:People from Valozhyn district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Uzda District to Category:People from Uzda district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Stowbtsy District to Category:People from Stowbtsy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Staryya Darohi District to Category:People from Staryya Darohi district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Smalyavichy District to Category:People from Smalyavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Slutsk District to Category:People from Slutsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Salihorsk District to Category:People from Salihorsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sport in Pukhavichy District to Category:Sport in Pukhavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Pukhavichy District to Category:People from Pukhavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Populated places in Pukhavichy District to Category:Populated places in Pukhavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Nyasvizh District to Category:People from Nyasvizh district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Myadzyel District to Category:People from Myadzyel district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Maladzyechna District to Category:People from Maladzyechna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Lyuban District to Category:People from Lyuban district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Lahoysk District to Category:People from Lahoysk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Krupki District to Category:People from Krupki district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Klyetsk District to Category:People from Klyetsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Kapyl District to Category:People from Kapyl district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Dzyarzhynsk District to Category:People from Dzyarzhynsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Chervyen District to Category:People from Chervyen district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Byerazino District to Category:People from Byerazino district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Barysaw District to Category:People from Barysaw district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Minsk District to Category:People from Minsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 07:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Flags of counties of United States to Category:Flags of counties of the United States – C2B: Check out "Misplaced Pages:Category names#How to name the country", "The#Geographic usage" and "wikt:the#Usage notes", along with the naming of "Category:Lists of counties of the United States". Wikihistorian (talk) 06:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:1797 in Iran to Category:1797 in Asia – C2F: Effectively speedy deletion because the article is already in all parents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Category:WikiProject NLP concepts and methods per C2F (the one parent seems irrelevant). * Pppery * it has begun... 17:12, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Open Knowledge Foundation to Category:Technology WikiProjects – C2F * Pppery * it has begun... 17:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Category:WikiProject Parenting per C2F. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Vann family of Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Vann family – C2B: Disambiguation without a base title. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ironi Ashkelon players to Category:Elitzur Ashkelon players – C2D. HanTsî (talk) 04:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Port Arthur massacre to Category:Port Arthur massacre (Australia) – C2D: per Port Arthur massacre (Australia) –Aidan721 (talk) 18:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Iowa State Cyclones facilities to Category:Iowa State Cycles sports venues – C2C: See Category:College sports venues in the United States by institution User:Namiba 18:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Category:WikiProject Diversity per C2F (none of the parents are really appropriate) * Pppery * it has begun... 17:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge Category:WikiProject Fablehaven to Category:Fiction-related WikiProjects - C2F. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Vyerkhnyadzvinsk District to Category:Vyerkhnyadzvinsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Vitebsk District to Category:Vitebsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ushachy District to Category:Ushachy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Talachyn District to Category:Talachyn district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Syanno District to Category:Syanno district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Shumilina District to Category:Shumilina district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sharkawshchyna District to Category:Sharkawshchyna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Polotsk District to Category:Polotsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pastavy District to Category:Pastavy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Orsha District to Category:Orsha district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Miory District to Category:Miory district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lyozna District to Category:Lyozna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lyepyel District to Category:Lyepyel district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Hlybokaye District to Category:Hlybokaye district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Haradok District to Category:Haradok district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Dubrowna District to Category:Dubrowna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Dokshytsy District to Category:Dokshytsy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chashniki District to Category:Chashniki district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Braslaw District to Category:Braslaw district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Beshankovichy District to Category:Beshankovichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:People of Taishō-period Japan to Category:People of Taishō-era Japan – C2C per Category:Taishō era – Fayenatic London 11:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Taishō period in culture to Category:Taishō era in culture
- REDIRECT Category:Taishō period in fiction to Category:Taishō era in fiction
- REDIRECT Category:Films set in the Taishō period to Category:Films set in the Taishō era
- REDIRECT Category:People of Shōwa-period Japan to Category:People of Shōwa-era Japan
- REDIRECT Category:Shōwa period in fiction to Category:Shōwa era in fiction
- REDIRECT Category:Films set in the Shōwa period to Category:Films set in the Shōwa era
- REDIRECT Category:Earthquakes of the Heisei period to Category:Earthquakes of the Heisei era
- REDIRECT Category:Films set in the Meiji period to Category:Films set in the Meiji era
- REDIRECT Category:Novels set in the Meiji period to Category:Novels set in the Meiji era
- REDIRECT Category:NA-importance Animation articles by work groups to Category:NA-importance Animation pages by work groups – C2C. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose until the code to change is identified We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. Note to closing admin Please do not list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of Low-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of Low-importance – C2C: Per Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7 BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 09:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of NA-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of NA-importance
- Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of Mid-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of Mid-importance
- Oppose until the code to change is identified We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. Note to closing admin Please do not list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: I believe this should already be handled by your updates to Module:WikiProject banner? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have not looked at any of the intersecting categories yet, so if it is working then it is by luck not design. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I withdraw these until the code is changed. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: should the discussion here be moved to the "On hold" section below and should the category pages remain tagged, or would you untag the category pages? Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I withdraw these until the code is changed. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have not looked at any of the intersecting categories yet, so if it is working then it is by luck not design. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: I believe this should already be handled by your updates to Module:WikiProject banner? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:United Kingdom in World War I to Category:United Kingdom during the First World War – C2A. British version of "World War I" is "First World War". There is a parent category, British Empire in World War I, but I'm not sure of the "reach" the British naming. I also changed the preposition, so maybe not speedy. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Breaks consistency with Category:World War I by country. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- It does, but there are many other such breaks, see for instance Category:Men's association football by country, and its child categories Category:Men's soccer in Australia and Category:Men's soccer in the United States.
- It's a reality that sometimes one guideline conflicts with another. This request follows C2A: Differences between British and American spelling. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Breaks consistency with Category:World War I by country. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex-related events – C2C: Category:Intersex-related works. LIrala (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @LIrala: it should rather become Category:Intersex events per e.g. Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Silent film actors to Category:Silent-film actors – C2A: Compound modifier; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are silent films. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy oppose. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have Silent film people as the parent category. MasonGarrison 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Silent film comedians to Category:Silent-film comedians
- Category:Silent film actors by nationality to Category:Silent-film actors by nationality
- Category:Silent film actresses to Category:Silent-film actresses
- Category:Male silent film actors to Category:Male silent-film actors
- @HandsomeFella: do you want to take this to full CfD? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes please. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: typically, you do that yourself. See user:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD, which can automate this process :) Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, but he asked. HandsomeFella (talk) 05:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: I was just reminding you that this is still pending. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Weren't you offering to do it? HandsomeFella (talk) 21:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: not at all. I would have archived the discussion if you wouldn't undertake action within a week or so. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Weren't you offering to do it? HandsomeFella (talk) 21:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: I was just reminding you that this is still pending. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, but he asked. HandsomeFella (talk) 05:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: typically, you do that yourself. See user:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD, which can automate this process :) Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes please. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: do you want to take this to full CfD? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Extinct monotypic bird genera to Category:Prehistoric monotypic bird genera – C2C: a few birds such as the Choiseul pigeon or the broad-billed parrot are contemporarily extinct ; the others are prehistoric ans should be moved to a relevant category (by renaming this one?) --Couiros22 (talk) 12:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Couiros22: not sure that this fits speedy because Category:Extinct animals is a valid category tree too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, just create a new category? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that this doesn't really fit WP:C2C. Also, the established naming scheme for this category tree is Category:Monotypic prehistoric animal genera, not Category:Prehistoric monotypic animal genera. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Couiros22: not sure that this fits speedy because Category:Extinct animals is a valid category tree too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Indigenous leaders in South America to Category:Indigenous leaders of South America – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" MasonGarrison 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of MasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? MasonGarrison 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of MasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_29#Category:Indigenous_leaders_of_the_Americas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Possibly fictional pirates to Category:Pirates whose existence is disputed – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed MasonGarrison 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe MasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. Armbrust 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe MasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stainton, south Cumbria to Category:Stainton, Westmorland and Furness – C2D: Match Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ambiguous with Stainton, Dacre, see User talk:Hey man im josh#Stainton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Postpone until we know the result of the proposed move of Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:State of Palestine to Category:Palestine (over disambiguation) and subcategories – C2D per Palestine following the move of the country article at this RM. Note that several of the targets are filled by disambiguation pages from when Palestine was occupied by what is now at Palestine (disambiguation). Timrollpickering (talk) 23:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D:
it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator
. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per above. Regards, Armbrust 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D:
- Moved to full discussion at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 9#Palestine. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Ceylon to Category:Chief secretaries of Ceylon – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 07:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Sierra Leone to Category:Colonial secretaries of Sierra Leone
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Cyprus to Category:Colonial secretaries of Cyprus
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Fiji to Category:Colonial secretaries of Fiji
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Gibraltar to Category:Colonial secretaries of Gibraltar
- Category:Chief Secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony) to Category:Chief secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony)
- Category:Chief Secretaries for Ireland to Category:Chief secretaries for Ireland
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Kenya to Category:Chief secretaries of Kenya
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Mauritius to Category:Colonial secretaries of Mauritius
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New South Wales to Category:Colonial secretaries of New South Wales
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New Zealand to Category:Colonial secretaries of New Zealand
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Nigeria to Category:Chief secretaries of Nigeria
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Northern Rhodesia to Category:Chief secretaries of Northern Rhodesia
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Palestine to Category:Chief secretaries of Palestine
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Singapore to Category:Chief secretaries of Singapore
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Tasmania to Category:Colonial secretaries of Tasmania
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Transjordan to Category:Chief secretaries of Transjordan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Western Australia to Category:Colonial secretaries of Western Australia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., Category:Vice presidents of the United States, categories under Category:Defense ministers by country, categories under Category:Governors-general, and categories under Category:Deputy prime ministers; see also articles like List of secretaries of state of the United States, List of secretaries general of the Western European Union, etc.) WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: are you planning to move these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, please do WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Prince Edward Island to Category:Colonial secretaries of Prince Edward Island – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Newfoundland to Category:Colonial secretaries of Newfoundland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Bermuda to Category:Colonial secretaries of Bermuda – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Barbados to Category:Colonial secretaries of Barbados – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of the Bahamas to Category:Colonial secretaries of the Bahamas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of British Guiana to Category:Chief secretaries of British Guiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Provincial Mayors of Cusco Province to Category:Provincial mayors of Cusco province – C2D: Cusco province. Also C2A with MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Macedonia to Category:Suicides in ancient Macedonia – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Greece to Category:Suicides in ancient Greece – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East – C2A Russian Rocky (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Asia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Asia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Israel to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Israel
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Jordan to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Jordan
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Lebanon to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Lebanon
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Syria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Syria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Turkey to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Turkey
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Europe to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Europe
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Austria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Austria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in France to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in France
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Russia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Russia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United Kingdom to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United Kingdom
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Scotland to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Scotland
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in North America to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in North America
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United States to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United States
- Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Novels set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Films set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East to Category:Sculpture of the ancient Near East
- Category:Ancient near eastern cosmology to Category:Ancient Near Eastern cosmology
- Oppose all needs discussion. Johnbod (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.
- Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Russian Rocky: are you planning to move this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
- See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Peggy Jay family to Category:Jay-Garnett family - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of Peggy Jay. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Ymblanter I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 6. Armbrust 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas to Category:Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War MasonGarrison 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. MasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? MasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2024 Dec 30. Regards, Armbrust 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? MasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. MasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Alvarado wrestling family to Category:Alvarado professional wrestling family – C2C: Per all other subcategories of Category:Professional wrestling families. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Brought up for Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Category:Alvarado wrestling family.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 1. Armbrust 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Brought up for Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Category:Alvarado wrestling family.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neapolitan families to Category:Families of Naples – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Italian families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed and brought up for full discussion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 1. Armbrust 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed and brought up for full discussion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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