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			Thank you today for ], inrtroduced: "Project Waler was a failed attempt by the Australian Army to replace its ageing M113 armoured personnel carriers with more capable types. The project began in 1980 and never had clear goals. The Army favoured the largest and most expensive designs that were submitted as part of its focus on conventional warfare while the government preferred smaller and more mobile types suited to stopping raids on northern Australia. This led to cost blow outs and the cancellation of the project in 1985. The M113s were eventually upgraded instead, and continue to soldier on despite being obsolete. A new project to replace them is currently underway, but is also proving highly expensive and at risk of cancellation as a result."! --] (]) 07:49, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
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			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 201, January 2023 ==
	Hi mate, FYI, since I've 78 and 84 Wings at ACR and you have C-17, I was going to wait for 78 to pass before nominating C-130 -- but it looks too damn good to leave sitting around so I'll probably do it this w/e anyway! Just expanding 36 Sqn now (great minds, I see you've taken care of 38 already) so I'll see if anything else apropos C-130s comes up there and then I might kick it off. Cheers, ] (]) 09:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Ian, that sounds good - there isn't much purpose in waiting to nominate the C-130 article. I'm thinking of taking the No. 38 Squadron article to GA, so please let me know if you spot anything I've missed there. Regards, ] (]) 09:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	::I expect I'll do the same with 36 Sqn, so ditto... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 10:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::P.S. The new infobox image just reminded me, I think it'd be good to use crests where possible but the only 38 Sqn one I've seen lately is tiny and probably not worth the trouble. If one of us finds a better version, think it'd be worth using (36 Sqn's on the RAAF site is excellent, same quality as the 33 Sqn one I added to that article not long ago). Cheers, ] (]) 10:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::Yeah, we should be aiming for consistency here. By the way, I have a memory of reading recently that the Government had decided to retain No. 38 Squadron's King Airs, but I can't find this anywhere. Can you remember seeing it? ] (]) 10:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Geez, you got me there. I'd been looking in vain for something suggesting the RAAF would get more than 10 C-27s (the implication being that they'd replace 38 Sqn's King Airs as well as re-equip 35 Sqn) but hadn't -- are you saying there was such a plan but not any more? Cheers, ] (]) 12:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::::What I remember seeing is that the government had decided to retain the King Airs as light transports once the 10 C-27s enter service on the grounds that they'd proven to be a useful and cost-effective capability. I suspect that I've miss-remembered, or saw this on a dubious source as I can't see anything on it on the Defence websites. ] (]) 00:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::Hi mate, just finished (for now at least) expanding 36SQN. I'll put it up for GAN but not ACR as yet (will add detail on maintenance history at the very least before considering that). I suppose it'd be logical for us to each review the other's at GAN but perhaps we should avoid even the semblance of QPQ. At the very least we should check each other's for consistency since the two squadrons had such an intertwined history for a while, even becoming effectively the same unit once or twice...! Cheers, ] (]) 08:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::Heh, I've just calculated that if I add another 400 characters or so it'll qualify for fivefold-expansion DYK -- so maybe I'll add some maint history sooner rather than later... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 09:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::::Success -- fivefold expansion, and it all came down to a bit of routine maintenance... ;-) Now, thinking about DYK hook, it looks to me like the ] article was never at DYK (at least according to its talk page). Is that correct to your recollection? If so, I think it'd be a great opportunity to get that article and 36SQN on the front page -- just let me know so I can write up the DYK nom one way or t'other... Cheers, ] (]) 10:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::::Great work! The Corbould article was never on the front page, and her leadership of the unit would make a great hook. I'm planning to work on the 38 Sqn article over the weekend, and will nominate it for GA status. I need to add something on it being merged with 36 Sqn. Regards, ] (]) 10:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
	(od) Hi mate, the ACR could be closing shortly, are you happy for it to be nominated at FAC straight afterwards, and with a similar nom statement? Cheers, ] (]) 02:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Ian, I've figured out what happened to the C-130Es, and will add that later today. Once that's in I'd be pleased for this to go straight to FAC when the ACR concludes. Regards, ] (]) 02:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Added (I stumbled across the key reference a few weeks ago while browsing a recent magazine! - talk about good timing). Do you think that it's worth separating out the material on the retirement of each type now that the topic is fully covered? ] (]) 11:01, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::Great stuff, Nick! Re. reorg, heh, the idealist says yep, the pragmatist says no way after what looks like a successful ACR -- gimme a chance to read it again and I'll see which of those wins out... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 12:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::Okay, had another look (and tweaked a couple of things) -- pragmatism aside, I think only the C-130A disposal sticks out a bit, the others are relatively short and fit in pretty seamlessly, so not sure we need to break 'em out after all (the next question is just where we'd put the section or subsection anyway). So happy to leave the structure as is unless you feel strongly about it or until a reviewer suggests we change it. Cheers, ] (]) 23:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Yeah, I was puzzling over how to turn this into a separate section this morning, and didn't come up with a genuinely satisfactory solution. The best option would probably be a 'disposal' section at the end of the article, but that might look a bit clunky. As such, I agree to leave things as they are unless there's a few complaints (or someone comes up with a better idea!). Regards, ] (]) 01:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::::That title and position in the article was in fact the best I could come up with as well, and given the type is still a going concern it didn't thrill me either... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 01:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::Okay, it's FACed -- don't forget that if you want to keep the momentum going with the C-17 article, it's okay to take it to FAC as well since you'd have only one solo and one co-nom there (I may well solo-nom Hely as soon as it completes ACR). We'll just owe FAC a lot of reviews (on which I'm sure we'll make good)... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 03:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::Thanks Ian (thanks also for the suggestion on nominating the C-17 article; I've been sitting on the fence with that one). ] (]) 03:17, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::::Well obviously it's shorter than the C-130 or F-18 service articles but the type's been around a much shorter time. Seven years is long enough though, I think, for this to go to FAC, especially since it was deemed enough for ACR. Regardless of future details, the structure should stay the same. Cheers, ] (]) 03:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	(od) Well congrats, we did it, C-130s now FA -- might have to start thinking about another one (there's always Caldwell I guess!)... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 03:11, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Just FYI, thought it might be worth trying even though joint awards are pretty much unheard of... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 08:53, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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	I'm undoing you're removing of the context paragraph I added. There were references included. Nothing I wrote is surprising or new or hardly in need of a reference. Context is pretty important, especially in such a subject. It is like yelling, "Fire!" without mentioning it's outside in a fireplace. Desecration of war dead is a real phenomenon; I have no objection to including reports of it in WP. On the other hand, anybody can use WP for a soapbox. Eventually, however, this dilute its value and hurts those who contribute, including you and me. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:There are no references whatsoever in the material you've just restored , so that's not true. Please provide some citations to support your claim that the subject of the article is merely "gallows humour". I tend to agree with you that this article is overblown (it was created by a POV pusher and used to be much worse: at one stage the article was arguing that most American troops went around chopping the heads off Japanese troops), but you need to provide citations. ] (]) 07:25, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
			Hi. I decided to write up a review essay for The Bulge along the lines of the one you made for the last issue. You can find mine . ] (]) 10:30, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
	All the references were to WP pages, appearing as normal WP links, including the definition of gallows humor, which is obviously one end of the spectrum of the motivations. The original writers include a long litany of motivations, mostly as pejorative as possible. Neither they nor I were there during the incidents. Was it due to racism or due to the fact that many of the kids were about to die or had just seen their bosom buddy shot through the head by an enemy far more tenacious than expected? The writers cannot compare the European war (Army, large-unit action) to the Pacific island campaign (mostly Marines, in vicious small-unit assaults). As to your deletion of my remarks, which are truly mild, well-referenced, and obvious to most historians of the war, are you trying to suppress dissent? As I said, I am putting the article in context, which is essential in reporting on stories from the past. Sorry, but I'm undoing you're unjustified deletion. Spend your time deleting some of the rest of the article, which hides behind cherry-picked references. ] (]) 01:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, Please don't do that. Misplaced Pages articles can't be used to reference one another, and you need to provide citations to external references (eg, books, reliable websites, etc). I'm not going to defend the content of the article, and I agree with you that it's cherry picked (it does largely reflect the sources on this, though they're not what I'd consider particularly good quality academic works - all seem to have been written by people with axes to grind). Regards, ] (]) 02:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)		:Thank you! That looks great. Do you know if they've revamped the Athens War Museum? When I visited in 2013 it was looking pretty tired and run down, which was a shame as it had a great collection. Regards, ] (]) 10:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
			:I couldn't find any information about revamps between 2013 and now, but last year 5.5 million euros were allocated for a renovation which will include a partial digitization of the collection. Unfortunately Greek military museums are not up to par with ] or the ]. While looking for information on the renovation I found that they opened a new dedicated to ] in November 2022 so I will try to visit it by the end of the month and update the review essay accordingly.--] (]) 23:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
			::Great, thank you. It's fair to say that the poor Greeks had higher priorities for limited government funds in 2013 than war museums. ] (]) 08:29, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
			:My schedule is pretty tight this month and you need to book an appointment to visit Zervas' house, so I wrote up a description from info I found online. So the review essay is finished.--] (]) 18:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
			::No worries - I'll post it over the weekend. Thank you again for this. ] (]) 23:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
			:::{{ping|Catlemur}} this is now posted at ]. Please feel free to make any further edits. ] (]) 00:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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			Both users the same content, the same objections on that page, so I suspect that is the same person with a sock account. Also, the same message as this I sent to the {{user|NinjaRobotPirate}} as soon as I noticed ] (]) 05:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
	Hello Nick, Could I ask you to have another look at the ] article? Editor Syngmung is getting close to a edit war and is reverting the deletion of rape allegations with strange comments. The base of these allegations is only one recently published book on the Normandy Campaign (not landings) and a review of same. I have to say that this "editor" seems to have an unhealthy obsession with rape, looking at his editing history. Would be glad of your imput/action. Regards, David, ] (]) 16:49, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, This guy seems to be on a crusade to prove that American soldiers are frequent rapists, and is edit warring all over the place. He's been warned for this previously, and I'd strongly recomend that you lodge a report at ] given that the edit warring is persisting. ] (]) 22:56, 3 June 2013 (UTC)		:I'd suggest reporting this at ] as it's something a Checkuser could easily handle. ] (]) 00:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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	Hello Nick, Thanks for your message on my Talk page. I have added my comments to your complaint. I must say that this "editor" does seem to have an unhealthy interest in rape and is pushing POV. As you will see from the ] Talk page, I did get another admin involved - it may be an idea to request his views on the latest developments. Regards, David, ] (]) 12:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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	I hope I haven't created a mess by starting a deletion discussion without going through proper procedures. What happens if the result of the discussion is to delete an incubate? Can the deletion be done without a formal nomination at Articles for deletion? Should it be formally nominated now or after the discussion has run it's course or does it need to be formally nominated at all? Thank you for any advice you can give.--] (]) 17:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, If the consensus is to incubate (as seems likely at present), an uninvolved admin should be able to do this - I'll leave a note at ] asking for an admin who is also a coordinator to volunteer for this. If the conclusion is 'delete' then this will probably need to go to an AfD discussion. Regards, ] (]) 08:58, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Hi. Then I'll refrain from complicating things further with a formal AfD. Thanks.--] (]) 14:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
			Hey Nick-D, I noticed you're listed as a mentor for featured article candidates and displayed a specific interest in military history. Last year I spent a good deal of time improving the article about ], taking it through ] and then a ]. It's been stable for the few months since the last review so I'm wondering about submitting it for FAC. As it's my first time, I wanted to check in with you to see if you could give it a look over. -- ] (]) 12:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
	==History of Gibraltar==
			:Hi, I'll try to look over it this weekend, but I'm preparing for an overseas trip so I might not get up to it for a couple of weeks I'm afraid. ] (]) 09:54, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
			::No bother! Feel free to take as much time as you need, the article isn't going anywhere. I hope you have a good trip! -- ] (]) 13:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
			::@]: Hey, I noticed you're back and was wondering if you could take a look? No worries if not, I can go to a different person on the mentor list. -- ] (]) 18:31, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
			:::{{ping|Grnrchst}} apologies for my slow reply here. Due to other commitments, I don't think that I'll have time to review this article. I was hoping to do so this weekend, but it didn't happen and I don't think that I can propose to be able to do so in the future. Regards, ] (]) 07:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
			::::No worries, I understand. Take care :) -- ] (]) 07:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
			== Resignation of Jacinda Ardern ==
	Hi Nick, you'll recall that you contributed to the FA review of ] few months ago. I've nominated it at TFAR for July 13, the tercentenary of Gibraltar becoming a British territory. If you have any thoughts on this you're very welcome to comment at ]. ] (]) 20:31, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
			Hi there, thank you for helping this article not be deleted. I wrote the bulk of it myself and I included an argument for its existence on the talk page. Her resignation was an important event that was deserving of a concise article, consistent with those for the ending of other premierships recently (i.e ] for Boris Johnson. So thanks, I really appreciate it ] (]) 01:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
	==DYK for No. 38 Squadron RAAF==
			:No worries. If it's renominated for deletion after being de-linked from the main page, please ping me. It's definitely a viable article. Regards, ] (]) 05:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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	Well there seems to have been a nasty quasi edit war created on the Australian Greens page ever since you reverted me. ( As a side note, normal users are people too like administrators)
			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 202, February 2023 ==
	I only edit wikipedia on a very part time basis and had completely forgotten about the three revert rule. User Bidgee is also engaged in this edit war.
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	Please explain. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 09:58, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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	::Well could you comment again and offer some policy based reasons for your viewpoint. I wasn't aware we were allowed to so blatantly violate established policies as soon as we got two people to agree to it, even if one of them calls themselves an 'administrator'. '''<font color="gold">★]</font>]]]<font color="gold">★</font>''' 10:08, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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	:::I'm happy to have discussions about article content, but not with people who throw accusations of bad faith around. ] (]) 11:06, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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	Thanks for dealing with the latest ]. Nice work. ] (]) 09:01, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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	Thank You (Vietnamese: Cảm ơn) ] (])18:27, 14 July 2013 (UTC+7)
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	== Microconsole DYK ==
	I spent a good amount of time sprucing up ] per your suggestions at ]. Could you please take a second look at the DYK nom when you have a chance? <span style='font:1em"Avenir";background:#CCF;padding:2px 4px'>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</span> 19:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Updated <span style='font:1em"Avenir";background:#CCF;padding:2px 4px'>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</span> 01:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Thanks for working with me—I appreciate your patience <span style='font:1em"Avenir";background:#CCF;padding:2px 4px'>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</span> 02:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::No worries - it's an interesting article. Regards, ] (]) 02:30, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
	== re edit summary ==
	regarding , "the 'Currently' section is certain to be years out of date". Sadly, it isn't out of date, is that bad? :3 Although since the assessment I have gone through and ( and ). Thank you, —<font face=Verdana><span style="border:1px solid;border-radius:1.7em 0"><span style="background:#000;border-radius:1.5em 0 0"> -]</span>] &nbsp;</span></font> 20:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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	I've just spun this short stub on the first armed forces chief of staff of the ] out from the main armed forces (]) article, and a new editor has listed it as CSD G7. Would you please mind taking a look? Cheers ] ] 22:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
	== Crime in New Zealand Article ==
	Nick - I had a look over this article after noticing that 'JaggerAgain' had reverted some of your edit. I have re-performed that edit as I agree with you, and also took out more material that seems highly editorialised from that section. After reading the rest of the article I've put NPOV and bias tags on it as it seems to be pushing a particular agenda and needs a good re-write. After viewing the previous contributions that 'JaggerAgain' has made it will be interesting to see what and how they contribute to other NZ Political/Justice/Crime related articles.... ] (]) 00:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks for the note. I agree that that article has major problems. Given the significance of these topics and the rampant bias in the wording, it seems best to remove large chunks rather than to attempt to rework such slanted material. Of late there's been concern about Misplaced Pages's "voice" being used to push various POVs, and the material submitted by Offender is often a good example of these problems. Regards, ] (]) 00:41, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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	== Could you please be more careful... ==
	You : ''"I note that Geo Swan, who is the article's creator and primary editor, has a long history of violating WP:BLP1E by creating articles on people held at Guantanamo Bay, and came close to being banned for creating a list of living 'alleged terrorists'."''
	I strongly disagree with this characterization of my activities.
	I ''did'' start articles on Guantanamo captives -- mainly in 2006 -- long before there was a ] policy. ''Some'' of those articles no longer measure up to the more demanding policies and standards current now.
	But, ''since they measured up to the standards current at the time I started them'' I am not now, nor have I ever been a serial violator of BLP or any other policy. I believe practically everyone who has examined my contribution history with a truly open mind recognizes this. ] (]) 07:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
	:That's not at all true: as a single example, you created ] last year as a ] based around a living person. You also did very little to clean up the other articles until they started to be mass deleted last year (despite earlier requests that you do so, including as the result of ]) and have typically argued in favour of their retention during AfD discussions, even when it was clear that this was a lost cause. ] (]) 07:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
	== Could you check some recent edits? ==
	On ]. I'm not familiar with the topic, but you seem more likely to be. By tone alone, that article strikes me as another nationalist battleground. There are no English sources in the article, which usually spells trouble for this kind of bilateral disputes, as well as impeding verification by editors more likely to be neutral. ] (]) 15:30, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, That's not actually a topic I know anything about, and as I can't read Korean I'm unable to check the sources. Regards, ] (]) 08:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
	== GA nomination of ] ==
	The article which was nominated by you is successfully promoted to GA. ] (]) 06:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks for that. Regards, ] (]) 08:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
	== Mutsu GA review ==
	Don't forget about this. I think that I've responded to all of the issues that you identified.--] (]) 18:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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			Hello,
	Hi. I have been adding photos to bio articles - thinking that this was part of the drive. But I notice today that the drive is only looking for Military History articles - am I correct? g ] (]) 13:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Yes, the drive's criteria are articles which fall into the scope of the Military History Wikiproject. The project's scope is very wide though, if it helps. Regards, ] (]) 00:22, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
			First, excuse me if my sentences are not well written, I hope you will excuse the fact that I'm french.
	==Sock?==
	*Nick, could you head over to ], Me and Bill we are having strong suspicion that the said newbie isn't one and could well be someone who has been blocked/banned and is now lurking all over PH related article pages you and I know but using new usernames to evade his block and avoid attracting attention, though not trying hard enough. --<small>] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">]</span></sup></small> 16:24, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
			I saw that you reverted my modification in the article ] about the battalion who crossed the Rance River, the August 5th, 1944. You tell me that it was written that was the 329th Infantry Regiment as it's written in the US Army official history. Martin Blumenson did an error and you can see here in the 3rd Battalion, 330th Infantry Regiment history at the page 9 the brief describing of the events. https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/330th/various/330th_3rdBn_Our_part_in_the_war.pdf
	===More sock at PhAF===
	*Hi Nick, please see {{Userlinks|Cybolton}}, call it my gut instinct but my klaxon is going off on this guy now. This happens especially when a newly registered editor starts off his first edit with an input to his own user page, and his subsequent edits are that on a level that is way too advanced for a novice editor. Only a returning sock fits that profile perfectly, but which one? Do you think its the one we talked about recently? --<small>] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">]</span></sup></small> 14:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
			You can read there the Afer Action Report of the 330th Infantry Regiment for August 1944 with the describing of the events of the August 5th, 1944. https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/330th/AAR/AAR_330_AUG1944.pdf
	== OMT Op-ed ==
			Here the mention of the crossing of Rance River by members of the 3rd Battalion, 330th Infantry Regiment in the record of the 83rd Reconnaissance Troop (page 1 at the paragraph 10) https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/83rdRCNTrp/AAR/AAR_83rd_Rcn_Trp_AUG1944.pdf
	We're creeping up on 16 June, and since I keep long hours at work on the weekend and subsequently crash on Monday to recover I wanted to get ] in its place before I get saddled with weekend work. I haven't seen a reply in the above section about where the piece should be moved, so I am hoping that a fresh topic heading will help us finish the piece by getting it moved where it needs to be in time for publication. ] (]) 23:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Tom, Asking you if this was ready was on my to-do list for the weekend :) I'll move it across now - you can continue to edit it until The Bugle is published if you see anything which needs to be changed. Thanks again for writing it. Regards, ] (]) 23:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Apologies Tom, I saw the earlier thread here, had a quick look and enjoyed the piece, and was going to move it shortly afterwards but obviously got distracted. Cheers, ] (]) 00:08, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::The article has been posted at ] ] (]) 00:18, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::Alright, then, we are ready to read and roll! Thanks for the help and for the move, and I hope that the membership will enjoy the piece (its my first op-ed, or at least the first built from scratch op-ed I've done for milhist, so I'm a little nervous :) ] (]) 00:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
			If you read the records of the 329th Infantry Regiment you will never see any mention of this event because they were involved in the fight at Chateauneuf d'Ille-et-Vilaine that day (https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/329th/AAR/AAR_329_AUG1944.pdf)
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			Hoping it give you a new point of view. I saw often the error in several books because they were based on the Martin Blumenson book but the original sources from the 83rd Infantry Division records are very sure about this small event of the war. ] (]) 14:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
	== RNZAF Squadrons ==
	Thanks, its arisen mostly out of work I've been doing on WWII bases in the South Pacific ] (]) 14:31, 15 June 2013 (UTC)		:Hi, Misplaced Pages operates off secondary not primary sources so I won't be making that change. Regards, ] (]) 09:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
	== Too big a stick? ==		== Book review ==
			Just wanted to let you know I've tweaked some things, after having a short emailed correspondence with the author, who passed the factual items on to his editor to hopefully get fixed in the paperback edition. ] <sub> '']''</sub> 14:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
	Hi Nick. I'm currently looking at the unblock request at ]. It looks to me as though this IP was blocked for - whilst I don't dispute that it was a BLP violation (and reverting and revdeling it was an appropriate course of action) a week's block for what, as far as I can tell, was a first offence seems a bit heavy-handed to me - I'd have expected a warning, rather than a block, for something like that. We're all fans of the mantra that blocks are supposed to be preventative, but I can't see any evidence that there's anything being prevented here; the IP didn't attempt to replace their comment, and hadn't made any other edits on the subject. Have I perhaps overlooked something? If not, would you be amenable to lifting or reducing the block? ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 08:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
			:Thank you for letting me know ] (]) 00:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
	:Given that the editor says in their unblock statement that "no policies were violated" and then expresses a desire to continue this post ("what kind of creep freaks out over a legitimate discussion on the talk page for the article? Perhaps someone had sourceable information on the matter"). I don't think that it would be a good idea to unblock. The subject of this article is a fairly obscure person who attracts heated and obsessive abuse for his views in various internet forums, so hence jumping straight to a one week block. Regards, ] (]) 09:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Hog Farm|Ian Rose}} I dumbly added this to the February edition after it was sent out! In my defence, I was still suffering from jet lag, fatigue and culture shock after a quick trip to India for work. I've removed it, and posted in in the March edition. Sorry for any and all confusion caused! ] (]) 10:16, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
	::I'll grant that it wasn't the best unblock request ever made ("I did nothing wrong! Admin abuse!" always works ''so'' well as an appeal), but I'm afraid I'm still not sure I'd agree with the reasoning behind the original block. The last edit of any kind to ] prior to the IP's was in September last year, and the last disruptive edit to the article itself was nearly two years ago. I'm not sure that the heated discussions elsewhere on the web have any bearing on the Misplaced Pages page; certainly it doesn't seem to be subject to any sort of systematic abuse, at least not in the last couple of years. Just as we don't apply page protection to pre-empt a potential problem, so we shouldn't be blocking people without at least some tangible evidence that they pose some sort of threat to Misplaced Pages. If the same comment - or a defense of it - reappeared after a warning, then fair enough, but blocking as a first move seems excessive.
			:::Heh, I did notice that but I thought there was method in the madness (like maybe HF wanted to see it published ASAP) so I'm now wiser... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 10:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
	::I don't want to bust your balls over this. Generally I see nothing but good actions from your quarter (your recent actions regarding ] had my utmost support, for example), but much as I hate to say it, this looks to me like a <small><whispers> bad block</small>. Maybe I'm just too trusting, who knows... ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 09:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::Nevertheless, after a bit of thinking, I've declined the unblock request. Whether the original block was correct or not, you're right that the unblock request could be construed as a suggestion of future intent to disrupt (and it's totally non-compliant with WP:GAB). It's therefore in Misplaced Pages's best interest to keep the block in place. Sorry to have taken up your time. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 09:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::Thanks for the feedback - I will take it on board (as the note at the top of the page says, I have no delusions of perfection). I'd have no problem at all with that account being unblocked if they made a commitment to abide by WP:BLP - blocks should only remain in place for the minimum time necessary to avoid disruption. I think that you have me mixed up with {{user|Nick}} in relation to the WorldTraveller101 block BTW. Regards, ] (]) 10:00, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Whoops; yes, I do. You really should differentiate yourself from him somehow: why not put a -D on the end of your name or something so that we can tell the two of you apart? ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 10:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
	*{{tps}} *Unlurked* Nick Dowling... I'm feeling rather awkward now and shall remove myself from your page until such time it is again required of me to resurface for some fresh air <small>(D: Yup, we're all suffering here in Singapore from this →← that's caused by Indonesian's burning and clearing of rainforest area in Sumatra now.)</small>. Toodles~! {{fpm|supreme}}... *poof!* --<small>] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">]</span></sup></small> 11:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
	**OK, cheers Dave. ] (]) 08:35, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
	== Your personal attacks? ==		== Lead to WWII Article ==
			Hello Nick-D
	Would you like to back up your personal attack at ] with some actual evidence? This isn't the first personal attack I've asked you to back up, but which you have ignored. I would sincerely suggest that you step back, and stop making such attacks against myself, because I am now collating diffs against yourself for future possible use -- i.e. I am not going to be the subject of continual personal attacks without a shred of evidence on this project any longer. ] (]) 10:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Replied there. Thanks for threatening me! ] (]) 10:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Thanks for replying there. I still believe it's a personal attack, in that the links you show are unashamed personal attacks by parties involved. I don't like collecting diffs on others, just as I don't like personal attacks and other incivility being directed against me by people who don't know me, don't interact with me, don't assume good faith with me, etc, etc. You have certainly made use of my uploads in the past on aviation topics, so perhaps there's some common ground -- just like ] suggests. If you are unable to interact with me in a civil manner, I can only encourage you to back off and perhaps forget about me. I am taking your talk page off my watchlist, so if there is any reply I will not see it, but my talk page is open if you wish to discuss things in an AGF civil manner. ] (]) 12:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::... yeah, that wasn't anywhere near a personal attack. ]&nbsp;<sup>]] ]]</sup> 03:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
	::::From what I've seen here and at Commons, Russavia often responds to justified criticism of his actions by making accusations and threats such as the above. ] (]) 08:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
			I admire your work on military and other articles and don't want to get off on the wrong foot with you. However, I think the word "led" is way out of place in the description of principal Allies in WWII. It imports a notion of leadership or precedence. Taking the war as a whole from Sep 1939 to August 1945 I would argue that the principal allies were UK, France, US, Soviets, China. You can order them alphabetically or in the order in which they took up arms against the Axis powers. What is the basis for the wording which currently exists?
	==Copyright violation==
	G'day Nick, while working on the GOCE Milhist blitz, I came across this article: ]. During a search for sources on Google Books, I found that it is a copyright violation of ''''A History of Jefferson County, West Virginia (1719-1940)'', pp. 27-29, by Millard Kessler Bushong. I have tagged it for deletion as it appears to have been created initially as a copyright violation, so I don't think there is any chance of salvaging it. Would you mind taking a look and, if you agree with my tagging, delete the article? If I haven't tagged it correctly, please let me know what I should do about it. Regards, ] (]) 10:22, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, I agree completely with your assessment - it was lifted from a book which should still be copyright protected in the US, and there's no good version to revert to. As such, I've deleted it. Regards, ] (]) 10:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Thanks, Nick. Have a good weekend. Regards, ] (]) 21:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
			Also, the article states, "It is generally considered that in ] World War II started on 1 September 1939." Only two sources are given for this and they are woefully inadequate. I have at least a dozen books on my shelf which date the outbreak to 3 September when France and the UK declared war on Germany. Without these declarations there would have been no general European war in 1939. ] (]) 02:35, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
	== Smith A-class ==
			:Hello, Let's limit this conversation to the article's talk page to prevent fragmentation and confusion. Regards, ] (]) 03:21, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 203, March 2023 ==
	Sorry for the presumptiveness, I hope you will excuse it. Thank you for the cheerful note on reversion! :) Have a nice Sunday. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—]&nbsp;]</b> 08:27, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	:No worries at all - the system is a bit confusing, and the coordinators (including myself from time to time) often place these stories in the wrong months' editions. If this is promoted to both FA and A-class status in June it will save Ian and I some work ;) Regards, ] (]) 08:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	== Book review ==
	As there are currently three book reviews for the upcoming issue of The Bugle I just wanted to tell you to feel free to move my review to the following issue so that there is already one. --] (]) 17:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Bomzibar, We've managed to attract at least one review from someone other than me over the last few months, so I'm optimistic that there will be at least two reviews next month as well. As such, I'll leave your review in this month's edition. Regards, ] (]) 07:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Agree. BTW, Nick, I'm ready to despatch the issue unless you want to add/tweak anything further. Cheers, ] (]) 08:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::Hi Ian, I just made a few minor changes, and this is now ready to go. Thanks, ] (]) 08:18, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi! After looking at MILHIST scope description, I assumed that a civilian protest march against army demanding an end to a siege would not qualify for MILHIST coverage. I'm having second thoughts because the siege was indeed lifted days after the protest (not necessarily because of the protest, but it looks that way). The article in question is ]. Could you please let me know what do you think? Thanks!--] (]) 10:31, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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	:Hi, The project has traditionally taken a broad view of its scope to include anything with a solid link to military history (which in turn includes the social aspects of warfare and the military). I think that protests against military forces such as this are clearly in-scope. Regards, ] (]) 10:38, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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			:Thank you, that's very kind ] (]) 06:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
			== Let your opinion be stated on the Rhodesia vectors deletion request ==
	== Earl of Oxford ==
			https://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Deletion_requests/Rhodesia_vectors_after_1973
	Nick, I just noticed that you are listening in, in fact I'd placed a request for help on my talk page. I'd welcome your advice. I certainly don't want any more blocks or bans. It's not worth it over this point, I'd just leave the article alone. You have just seen my latest edit. I certainly don't think Tom Reedy's behaviour is acceptable. Paul seems rather more reasonable. I think there is a significant minority viewpoint which ought to be acknowledged in the interests of fairness. Tom seems to wish to censor any reference to the fact that their are now University courses in Britain and America which promote questioning of Stratfordian authorship. The reference to the Holocaust is from ] As you see the one thing I am passionate about is 'fairness' - I'm not especially an Oxfordian. Thanks ] (]) 04:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Nick, I'm not sure it was you listening in here after all (the mild expletive in the SAQ section) ] but I'd welcome your advice nonetheless. ] (]) 04:48, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
			I linked to it here so that you can easily find it and state your opinion. I will link to our discussion we had about three months ago. Thank you.
	:Hello, I'm not actually sure what you're referring to - I don't have your talk page or any articles on this topic watchlisted. ] (]) 10:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
			] (]) 23:11, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
			== TFA ==
	== List of official languages by GDP per capita ==
			Thank you today for ], introduced (in 2018): "This article covers what must be one of the worst military blunders of World War II. In March 1944 around 15,000 Japanese troops attempted to attack fortified positions on the island of Bougainville which were held by 62,000 Americans who knew that they were coming. While the Japanese fought bravely, the offensive ended in total failure, with the veteran US Army units stopping the attack in a matter of days."! -- ] (]) 07:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
	No clear relation between these variables? I need a sense of which languages to translate my client's website to first. My client would prefer the most "affluent" languages. ] (]) 16:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
	:That probably rules out Somali then. Try the IMF, UN or the CIA World Factbook (and earn your money rather than relying on a crap and long-deleted article written by some random guy on the internet...). ] (]) 10:02, 26 June 2013 (UTC)		:Thank you ] (]) 09:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
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			Hello, just wanted to let you know that I have re-uploaded the files as non-free files to Misplaced Pages with a smaller resolution. ] (]) 16:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
	Hi mate, couple of things... It looks to me from ADF-Serials that one or two of our fatal Hornet accidents were to OCU aircraft -- still a bit dubious about it as a source though, do you happen to have any info on OCU Hornet accidents elsewhere that'd save me scouring ''RAAF News'' in the Mitchell?! Also ready to take suggestions re. a DYK hook as nothing's really leaping out at me -- maybe something about the preponderance of North African aces in its WWII leaders and instructors... If you come up with a good 'um, happy to share credit! Cheers, ] (]) 02:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
			:Thanks for doing that. Regards, ] (]) 08:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
	:Hi Ian, ''Phantom, Hornet, and Skyhawk in Australian Service'' has this. The only 2OCU F/A-18 loss was A21-104 in November 1987 (page 124). Two other 2OCU Hornets (A21-102 and 107) collided during an air-to-air combat training exercise in February 1986, but both managed to return to base (page 124). I somehow managed to get ADF serials through as an OK source in the ] FAC... I'll replace this with references to Wilson tonight (though I saw it referenced in a professionally published book recently for what it's worth). As some of suggestions for hooks, how about:
	:*...that the ]'s ''']''' was equipped with more than 100 aircraft throughout the last two years of ]?
	:*...that ''']''' was reestablished in 1952 due to concerns over the quality of some Australian fighter pilots in the ]? (might be overly negative)
	:*...that ''']''' trains all of the ]'s ] fighter pilots?
	:I prefer the last of these (in my experience, hooks which are straightforward and include an aircraft do well!). ] (]) 08:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
	::Yeah, tough with this one for some reason -- I also quite like #2 but agree it's not so positive, so #3 might be the one. I was even considering the tidbit about staff translating Mirage manuals from French to English as part of their job, just for something light... ;-) Tks very much for the Wilson ref about the F-18 incidents, will add. Cheers, ] (]) 15:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::Hi Nick, I'll probably take this to FAC once the ACR is closed (and my Hely FAC likewise) so if there was anything else you think should be added, let me know (I'll probably take a glance myself at Wilson this week, and coincidentally the latest ''Air Force News'' has a report on Aces North, the FCI graduation exercise, so I'll be mining that for some info as well). Cheers, ] (]) 03:16, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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	:Hi Neelix - I was also pleased to see that article on the main page, and congratulations on its successful FAC. I'll look into this review. Regards, ] (]) 08:30, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
			G'day Nick-D, I would appreciate your comments in regards to verifiability in a discussion on ]. There is a related discussion at WP:ANI ]. Regards, ] (]) 02:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
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	== Offender9000 talk ==		== Air Board PR ==
			Hi Nick, did you want to check my last replies at the PR? Happy to look at tweaking text further but just let me know your thoughts on the latest if you have time... Cheers, ] (]) 15:10, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
	Nick-D - I see Offender9000 has been on and blanked his talk page this morning. Moriori has restored the sockpuppet ban notice (and prevented him from making future edits) but it might be useful for material from that page to be restored to allow future editors who come along to be able to easily see why Offender9000 was banned in the first place (e.g. there is no violation of BLP notice on the use page) and the long-standing issues the community had with him? ] (]) 03:31, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Clarke, Thanks for letting me know. The relevant guideline is ] which allows editors to remove pretty much everything from their talk pages except notifications of still-active sanctions. I've just restored the thread concerning the BLP block. Regards, ] (]) 03:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)		:{{ping|Ian Rose}} Sorry for the slow reply here. Those changes look good to me. Regards, ] (]) 10:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
	I think that is most useful. Regardless of the policy I don't think having any further material would be required as that section shows the issues quite clearly for anyone who looks into his edits at a later stage. Do copies of general block notices also get put on a user page? Or do only sockpuppet ones get listed on both talk and user pages? ] (]) 05:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
	:I think that the only sanctions which are placed on user pages are sockpuppet confirmations, community bans and blocks/bans imposed by the arbitration committee. In practice, these tags are not always used - replacing the entire content of the user page for an editor who had a productive editing history before turning to the bad and being sanctioned is controversial. Regards, ] (]) 06:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
	== My mistake ==		== Harassment ==
	Based on the infobox on your user page I concluded 1) that you were amenable to receiving feedback in a non-confrontational trout-slap and 2) that you had a sense of humor. "Get fucked" as your edit summary suggests neither is the case.--] (]) 14:58, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
	:You appear to have mistaken my comments on your rather ]-like edit notice which contributed to its blanking as being something other than a routine response handled (politely, I think - though I am biased) through routine channels. Your decision to whack that template here a full day after the event stinks of trolling and recieved the response it deserved. I'm entirely open to good natured feedback (such as "hey, I think that you were wrong about that notice" or words to that effect), but that sure wasn't it. ] (]) 22:45, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
	::I'm sorry it came across that way, it was not my intention. I modeled my editnotice after ] and ensuring standardized referencing (not ownership) was the goal. I honestly thought that the trout-slap was meant to be humorous (I laughed when I saw the infobox on your page), and a non-obnoxious way to comment. Virtually everyone involved in commenting on this list seems to have a shoot first, ask questions later approach. So "get fucked" is just icing on the cake. --] (]) 00:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
	:::I think that you'll find that posting a message always gets you a happier response than hitting editors who have different views to you with a template which is used only as a mock punishment when they goof up. ] (]) 01:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
	::::Understood.--] (]) 02:33, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
			hi, I apologize if you saw any harassment towards that editor. My intention was simply to leave my message in an ongoing discussion about my edits. The reasoning I was "reinstating these messages" is because they are removed with the excuse of me being a sockpuppet, which I'm not. By the way I won't put them back if it's not allowed. Have a nice day--] (]) ] (]) 09:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
	== NZSAS Article ==
			:Good ] (]) 10:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
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	Nick-D, could I trouble you to cast a quick eye over the ] article? This is the first time I've built a comprehensive page myself, rather than just fire fighting other edits. I'm not after a formal review just some tips if you have a chance. I'm trying to decide what to do about the NY/QB Hons section at the bottom. A number of those awards were given for operational service (e.g. a BEM for Vietnam with a cracking citation, which really should have been an MM but seemingly wasn't supported by 1ATF, so NZ Army HQ awarded him the BEM instead) but I don't have citations for all the awards, therefore I can't 100% accurately divide them all up into correct deployments. Maybe I should just do the ones I can confirm and leave the others where they are? Thanks. ] (]) 11:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, I'll read through the article later this week. It looks really good from what I've seen so far. Regards, ] (]) 11:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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	:Done - that's the very definition of an uncontroversial housekeeping task. A nice thing about having the admin tools is that I can self-delete the instances where I create a page accidentally without anyone ever being the wiser ;) Regards, ] (]) 11:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
	:: Thanks again. Much appreciated. ] (]) 12:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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	Hello Nick-D, the editing history of this article is something that may bear occasionally looking at. Users EyeTruth and Gunbirddriver have had editing conflicts concerning the Battle of Kursk and another difference of views may be brewing. EyeTruth has asked me to neutrally observe the talk page interactions, and I am willing to do so -- but I think it wise if another pair of eyes also looks over the exchanges from time to time. My own take (on at least some of the differences of opinion) is that various sources contradict each other (typical for WW2 Eastern Front sources) when it comes to losses of vehicles and personnel. In the case of some of the differing editor viewpoints, it may be necessary (to achieve concurrence among the editors) for information notes in the article to point out in detail the varying outlook of professional authors/historians. Cheers, ] (]) 20:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, I've just watchlisted the article and will weigh in as needed. Regards, ] (]) 09:58, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
	== Plans to create my first articles. Any advice to construct gratefully recieved. ==
	*Hi Nick. I thought I would approach you as you are one of our most celebrated Eds in military-related article creation and policy. After over a year I am starting to think of actually becoming an article creator. Man cannot Wikignome alone :).
	:I was thinking that there is a big gap in WW2 field rations by major combatants. The rather good U.S ], ] etc, series are getting increasingly lonely. I was thinking of creating a ], ] and ] for a comparable UK article series, and the Canadian ]. Further down the line it would be good to develop German and Japanese equivalents as articles. I also was thinking on getting the ] article sketched out. I redlinked him in ]. I have lots of sources from a diverse range of origins, field trials re; palatability and complete menus. I am researching Mr Nissenthal. Any tips welcome. Cheers! ] (]) 22:17, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
	**Hi Irondome, Those look like really good topics for articles - there are quite a few sources on soldiers' rations, including specialist and generalist works. I haven't written anything on the topic myself, but I'd suggest that you cover both the 'official' view of the rations (eg, why they were developed, and the decisions and trade offs the food scientists and logistians had to make), as well as how the 'customers' viewed the rations - including how often they actually had to eat them (most armies generally attempted to minimize the use of pre-prepared rations, and supplied freshly cooked meals to the troops whenever possible). Regards, ] (]) 00:03, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
	***That's well appreciated Nick, esp the purpose and development consideration, and actual references to percieved quality and use by the "consumer". The Americans were decades ahead of anyone in that respect. They really treated their ORs as consumer products. Ive several fascinating quality feedback reports on US rations from their contemporary surveys that they undertook in field testing. They also have in the public domain online great contemporary reports on the development and methodology of usage. There are no comparable British primary sources in the public domain that I can find, and I dont want to risk Original Research by going to the archives. We just do not seem to publish our contemporary WW2 ration development reports online as the U.S do. Still googling every combination of relevant search phrases I can think of though :)
	I am using the ] classic "The Sharp End" and the fairly recent and groundbreaking "To The Victor The Spoils" by ] for Brit secondary ration sources at the moment. There's loads more to tap. Thanks for the encouraging words. Cheers ] (]) 01:40, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
	:From memory, Lizzy Collingham's excellent book ''The Taste of War'' has some material on the rations provided to combat troops which places the topic in a broad context. Regards, ] (]) 02:15, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
	::Looks like there is a big chunk of it available in a Google books preveiw facility. Cheers mate. BTW, there are at least 3 Australian rations configured for group and individual use developed for WW2 Pacific ops that I have come across. One appears to be SF. Its a great subject in terms of the sheer breadth of notable articles to be created. ] (]) 02:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
	:::Yeah, and it's a really important topic given that the rations formed a significant part of the experiances of military personnel during the war, and required substantial agricultural, industrial and transport infrastructure to sustain. ] (]) 03:32, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
	::::Yep, and apart from the U.S stuff (good on the original creators) we havent even touched the subject. Food supply and distribution by nation in WW2 would be an offshoot, as a developing subject for articles. Its vaguely covered in WW2 economics by nation articles, and the ] is excellent, and a one-off at the mo. But we have no equivalent dedicated US, Aus, German, Japanese etc.. Not to mention operational military rations by country. Its a gaping hole in WP coverage at the mo. Its every bit as notable as any AFV or or even campaign article. Cheers mate ] (]) 03:48, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi Nick- I'm going to make some revisions and wondered if you could take a look at my response to your comment (re: Port Moresby crash) and let me know what you think so I can tackle everything in one go. Thanks-] (]) 20:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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	::Hi Nick- I know you initially opposed the list for Featured status. There have been a lot of changes with the input of several members of the Aviation Project. I was wondering if you would be willing to have another look, possibly re-review and/or let me know if there are areas I can work on to either gain your support or have you withdraw your objection. Thanks in advance.--] (]) 14:48, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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	::::Thought I'd give this one more shot: I've reviewed six books (all added to the list) and found two additional incidents (both in ASN database). I think I've made a solid good faith effort to meet your objection(s) to the list, do you? Thanks-] (]) 04:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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	== Quick question ==
			Hello, Nick-D. Thank you for your work on ]. ], while examining this page as a part of our ], I had the following comments:
	Hi mate, if you have a sec, could you check your copies of Eather and ''Bomber Units'' and let me know what aircraft 1SQN was operating between August 1939 and January 1940 (or thereabouts)? I suspect Demons then Ansons but all the sources I've seen are a bit vague on what and when... Cheers, ] (]) 08:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Ian, Both Eather (p. 19) and ''Bomber Units'' (p. 3) state that the squadron was operating Ansons in September 1939. Neither state when they started to operate these aircraft. Eather (p. 19 again) states that the squadron continued to operate Ansons in the convoy escort and patrol roles until May 1941 when these aircraft were replaced with Hudsons. Regards, ] (]) 10:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
	::Tks Nick, much appreciated ('case you're wondering, it's to round out an article on AVM ], who was a flight commander with 1SQN between -- you guessed it -- August 1939 and January 1940... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 11:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
	:::No worries. It was good to see the Lockheed C-130 Hercules in Australian service article pass its FAC today. Regards, ] (]) 11:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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	== George Juskalian ==
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	Can we continue with the A1 for George Juskalian? If you're busy it's fine. I could maybe get another reviewer. ] (]) 21:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
	:I'll respond in the review, but note that A-class nominations typically require three supportive reviews to pass. ] (]) 08:22, 17 July 2013 (UTC)		:{{ping|SunDawn}} thank you! ] (]) 09:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	==Talkback==
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	&mdash; ] &#124; ] 14:50, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
			Little thing I wrote up; hope you like it. Might throw it into the Signpost proper if they want it. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.5% of all ].</sub></span> 17:38, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
	== Prokhorovka, again ==
			:Many thanks Adam, that looks excellent ] (]) 10:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
			::Punched it up a mite. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.5% of all ].</sub></span> 00:19, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
			:::Okay. I've roughed in all the articles that need covered in the featured content section, I don't think I'm up to writing summaries, though, not with all the things I'm going to need to do regarding my dad's death this week. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.5% of all ].</sub></span> 19:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
			::::How did the Op-ed just gain three additional sections? I need to stop. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.5% of all ].</sub></span> 03:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Nick-D, ] (]) has suddenly appeared to edit the article. No other article contributions other than ] -- situation smells to me like someone has decided to edit without logging in, in order to provide cover for actions that might be seen as tendentious. ] (]) 04:03, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
	:I agree completely, and have just blocked the account. ] (]) 05:21, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
			Hey, just noting a little clarification as to which version(s) you support is needed here. Sorry, it's mostly my fault. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.5% of all ].</sub></span> 02:06, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
	== RE: FAC ==
			== Would you like to be my FAC mentor? ==
	Hi. I'm not sure if you saw or if it changed anything regarding your position, but just in case, I'm writing to let you know that I responded to your last comment at ]. ] (]) 01:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks Dan. I saw that as I was about to walk out the door for a couple of days out of town, and will follow up later today. Regards, ] (]) 02:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
			Hello Nick-D,
	== UDI ==
			Hoe all is well. I am thinking about promoting ] (currently GA) to FA status. Luo is the first Chinese Catholic bishop. As this would be my very first FAC, I am looking for an FAC mentor, especially someone who I have never interacted with on Misplaced Pages. Would you like to be my FAC mentor?
	Hi Nick, just a quick one to let you know that I've just nominated the ] article at FAC. If you're interested in taking a look, the review is ]. Thanks, keep well and have a great week. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—]&nbsp;]</b> 11:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks for the note: I'll look into the article (though I may not take a support/oppose position as I'm pretty clueless on Rhodesian political history). Regards, ] (]) 11:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
	::Thanks. I've included quite a bit of background stuff to help with this as I think most people don't know much about the context, which is more complicated than many would presume, so I hope this helps. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—]&nbsp;]</b> 11:16, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
			Cheers, --] (]) 21:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
	== Four Award ==
			:Hi, I'd be very happy to look over this article over the coming weekend, though with the proviso that it's a topic I know nothing about! It looks interesting and already developed to a high standard though. Regards, ] (]) 10:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
			::Thank you! No worries, "no deadline", as they say. --] (]) 11:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
			::<nowiki>:((</nowiki> ] (]) 00:15, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
			:::Sorry, but I've been busy (and exhausted) from my work and some travel. I'd suggest looking for a mentor with better knowledge of this topic. ] (]) 03:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
			::::Thanks for letting me know and no problem with that. Many thanks for your attention to this as well!!! ] (]) 13:31, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Just a heads up, do you realise both you and Ian have turned down the award because the other wasn't recognized? Just sayin, '''<font color="gold">★</font>★]★<font color="gold">★</font>''' 03:26, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
	:That's not the case I'm afraid: Tony the credit from Ian on the grounds that it was "mistaken". Regards, ] (]) 03:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
	::Well, apparently you're to reject a FOUR award. Related discussion is taking place at ]. ]&nbsp;<sup>]] ]]</sup> 05:36, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
	:::{{facepalm}} ] (]) 07:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
	::::Heh, yes, I rejected the award he made on my talk page before he withdrew it at the Four page... ;-) Cheers, ] (]) 08:57, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
	*For the record, I think Ed should be allowed to refuse his awards or return them. If it works for the Nobels...&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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	== Co-leads ==
			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 208, August 2023 ==
	I'd like to propose at WT:MIL that the top 3 vote-getters become the 3 co-leads again in the September elections; I think that's worked out well. Thoughts? - Dank (]) 14:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Dank, that sounds sensible to me. I think that we need lead co-ords, and having more than one is preferable given the need to cover variations in editing activity. Regards, ] (]) 10:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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			You sure about this one? Their seem sometimes clumsy but other than , they seem at worst poorly sourced or jejune sometimes. For example, their two edits prior to that WWII one consisted of adding a name to a list, then realizing it was already on the list and removing it. I don't see any bad faith edits. Perhaps I am missing something? I didn't look very far back. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 18:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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			:Yes I am. They are stating on their talk page now that their account may have been compromised, so I'm extending the block to indefinite. ] (]) 22:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
			::OK, but I'd still like to know where the vandalism and bad faith edits are. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 04:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
			:::Attempt to start a nonsense article, then warnings for nonconstructive editing, then various edits reverted and then vandalising a high profile article. A 31 hour block seemed appropriate for this pattern of unhelpful behaviour. Regards, ] (]) 04:52, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
			== rhodesia information centre ==
	:Hi Mike, I can't stress strongly enough that I did '''not''' suggest that CarringtonB was an employee of that firm as you've attributed to me in your email. I suspected that there was a conflict of interest of some sort with the firm at the time, but have no way at all of knowing what the situation actually turned out to be: I may have been completely mistaken. For privacy-related reasons, the small number of highly trusted editors who have access to the checkuser tool do not share the results of their investigations, and it's not sensible to read too much into this kind of thing. There's some background information on how the Checkuser tool is used at ] if you're interested. Regards, ] (]) 11:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
			hello, Nick-D! i had a question regarding ] and ]. is this article specifically about the office in sydney, or more generally about the rhodesian ''de facto'' diplomatic mission in australia? the article body seems to suggest that the rhodesian information centre in sydney replaced the rhodesian information service in melbourne in 1967, so if the article is specifically about the office in sydney, i am wondering if it would be more accurate for the blurb and article lead to both state that the office began representing rhodesia in 1967 rather than 1966. (however, i admittedly cannot tell from the article whether the sydney office actually began operating earlier, or if it was actually originally the rhodesian information service's sydney branch, so it seems possible that the office in sydney actually did begin representing rhodesia in 1966.){{pb}}considering the various names for the centre listed in the article lead, i had initially thought that maybe the name of the rhodesian information service in melbourne was simply considered an alternative name for the subject of the article. however, i eventually noticed that "Rhodesian Information Service" (as used in melbourne, with an 'n' in "Rhodesian") was different from "Rhodesia Information Service" (as used in the article lead, without an 'n' in "Rhodesia"), so i admittedly am uncertain about whether the article intended to consider the centre in melbourne part of the featured subject. ] (]) 02:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
	== Sorry ==
			:Hello, it was essentially the same thing, so 1966 is the best start date. As Jordan notes, the Rhodesian Information Service in Melbourne was replaced by the Rhodesia Information Centre; there does not appear to have been any break between the RIS closing and the RIC starting. The RIC has slightly different names in different sources, which causes further confusion! I've tweaked the lead of the article to help clarify this for readers, but I'd suggest that it's not needed for the TFA blurb. Regards, ] (]) 03:15, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
			:: yeah, i tried following the sources to attempt to make sense out of it, and only ended up being more confused! anyway, your edits looks good. thanks, Nick-D. ] (]) 03:33, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
			Thank you today for the article, introduced: "The Rhodesia Information Centre was the unofficial, and illegal, embassy the Rhodesian government maintained in Australia from 1966 to 1980. As the Australian government did not recognise Rhodesia's independence it had almost no contact with Australian officials. Instead, it spread propaganda trying to win Australians over to the white minority regime in Rhodesia and helped businesses evade the trade sanctions against the country. The Rhodesian Information Centre survived multiple attempts by the Australian government to close it, including one which led to a High Court case in 1973 and another which caused a backbench revolt in 1977, and was finally shut down by the Zimbabwean government in 1980. As a result, while this is a slightly obscure topic, the article covers a lively period in Australian foreign relations and provides insights into Australian attitudes towards white minority rule in Africa during this period."! --
	Sorry, kinda tired of typing, can you add it, im going to sleep in a bit. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:44, 26 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:Thank you ] (]) 07:45, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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			== Emu War edits ==
	Hi friend! I have uploaded an '''ALT''' version. Can you please have a look and give your valuable comment. Thanks in advance!--](]) 15:04, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
			Hey, I made an edit on the emu war wikipedia page and you reverted it and left a comment on my talk saying its vandalism, can you please explain how it was vandalism? I believe it was perfectly constructive. ] (]) 11:12, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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			::why does it say Emu '''War''' all over the page then? ] (]) 06:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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	== BLP Issue ==
			I'm a newish editor and was wondering if you'd like to collab on a concentrated effort to work on/clean up the Eritrean Army page. I saw that you made some pretty constructive edits on it, in spite of some warring by a now blocked editor, so asking you for help seemed like a logical choice.
	Nick please see this posting to my talk page --] (]) 11:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
	:I've just blocked that latest IP. Regards, ] (]) 11:44, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
			It just reads kind of wrong. I can't place my finger on it, but maybe you can. ] (]) 11:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
	==Hiroshima Nagasaki==
			:Hello, I'm afraid that as I'm going to be travelling for the next month I won't be able to help here. I'd suggest using the Institute of Strategic Studies ''The Military Balance'' for the basic facts on the size, structure and composition of the army, as it's a well regarded source. My understanding is that the broader literature on the army is fairly large, and the article should cover its conscription policies (conscripts are required to serve for an indefinite period) and the consequences this has had on the country. Regards, ] (]) 22:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
	I hope that you don't mind my removal of this book you added from the Hiroshima Nagasaki article. The only review I've seen of this book (in the Australian War Memorial's magazine Wartime) was highly critical, and Ham is not an expert on the topic - his main focus is on Australian military history, where he's something of a journeyman author. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
			::No worries, I appreciate the advice. Safe travels! ] (]) 00:00, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
	:No problem. What did Wartime say was wrong with it ? I did indeed note that he fell for the old 100,000 dead at Dresden furphy but I'm more interested in his reasoning that the bomb was used as the first act of the Cold War, i.e. aimed at the USSR, using Japanese cities and civilians as convenient test material, which sounds like the truth to me. Rod. ] (]) 07:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
	::The review was written by the American historian ], and he notes Ham's use of David Irving's discredited book as the source for the figure of 100,000 people being killed at Dresden, as well as a couple of instances where Ham attributed claims to Frank's book ''Downfall'' which aren't supported by that book. He's also critical of Ham's understanding of the details of the war, pointing out some other mistaken statements. ] (]) 07:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::In the same vein - do you have an opinion on the value of Paul Kennedy's recent book "Engineers of victory : the problem solvers who turned the tide in the second world war". He's usually associated with economic history rather than military, but I haven't noticed any errors. ] (]) 01:26, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
	::::I've read a sample on my Kindle, and it looks pretty good (I'm waiting for the price to come down). It's received mixed reviews, but I quite like his style of analytic history. Regards, ] (]) 06:52, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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			: Nick-D congratulations on this FA! I've been watching it with interest because of sticky terminology issues in an article I've been working on, trying to clean up, that has been subjected to years of disruptive editing and poor sourcing. At one point, it referred to all the exiled military and volunteers as mercenaries, which I think I've now corrected, but there are still terminology concerns. If you are now over the hump with your last FAC and have any free time, a set of experienced MilHist eyes from our now-expert on how to label these events and individuals at ] would be most welcome! A ] is planned for a week or two: see ] and ]. Thanks for any help you can give should you have time! ] (]) 14:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
			::Thanks Sandy. I'm travelling for the next month, so I don't think that I'll be able to help with that article. I used the term 'volunteers' in the article on Rhodesia as it's what many of the sources used, and was more neutral than 'mercenaries' (especially given ] issues as many of the people who fought for Rhodesia, in potential violation of their home country's laws, will still be alive). The article notes how the term 'mercenary' has been used and goes into some detail on who the volunteers were and what motivated them, which might be helpful for the Operation Gideon article. I agree that it's best to avoid simplistic labels for issues like this. Regards, ] (]) 22:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
			:::Thanks, Nick-D; yes, I noted those bits in your article and (think/hope) I employed same at the Gideon article. The two Americans were hired by Silvercorp (security firm), and sources do refer to them as mercenaries, but I removed mention as mercenaries of other exiled Venezuelan military who a) were not foreign, b) were not paid, c) and were not generally described by sources as mercenaries either. And on the BLP issues relative to US laws, I found . Your Rhodesian article was most interesting and helpful; I hope you have safe and enjoyable travels, and if you have time to glance at the article when you're back, it could use MilHist eyes. Bst, ] (]) 01:16, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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	Please check out ]. I, as the lone delete advocate now, am a bit peeved that there seems to be a group effort (I'm not saying sockpuppets) to keep the article without really addressing the issues fairly. ] (]) 19:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
	:It looks like a viable article to me, and accusing other people of engaging in a "group effort ... to keep the article without really addressing the issues fairly" is pretty poor form. ] (]) 23:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
	:*I'll say. Occasionally Gibraltar material can be deemed notable by the community, Kit. That being said, editors have consistently rebuked the claim that this is an unwarranted fork of ] and ], as in the deletion nomination, so "without really addressing the issues fairly" is a bit much methinks.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:57, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
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	:Thanks! I'm actually planning to put a fair bit more work into this article, as I think that it's got the potential to reach at least A-class. Regards, ] (]) 02:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
	::That sounds even better. Best of luck. ] (]) 10:08, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::Speaking of Operation Tungsten, I have recently photographed the graves at the Commonwealth War Graves section of the main cemetery in Tromsø. Several of the servicemen buried there lost their lives during Operation Tungsten. Do you think one or more of those photos would be a useful contribution to the article? ] (]) 07:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
	::::Yes, that would be really valuable. Regards, ] (]) 07:32, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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	Please can you moderate the current process for resolving the blitzkrieg dispute? I do not wish to get you involved in this but if it is possible for you to moderate this process with your non-involved administrator hat on, please kindly do so. I wouldn't have called you back if not because I'm seeing signs that show nothing has changed in Gunbirddriver's mindset. He again completely and instead moved it citation and notes section. You were right earlier, I should have taken the initiative to write the opposing view (although it would have been subpar since I have no sources for the opposing view). Well, I restored the content but with a major change: "''The operation, according to some historians, envisioned a blitzkrieg...''".
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	In the note , I first pointed out that some commentators/historians may not agree with this. That assertion still lack citations, except for Guderian's works (which would still require original synthesis in order to incorporate it as a source), and has been a major barrier to resolving this dispute for months. After that, I listed 9 historians (with supporting citations) that characterize it as an intended blitzkrieg. Essentially, the pattern I used is: Introduce, Oppose, Support. But Nick, if it is possible, can you please moderate this process. Please. ] (]) 20:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
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	:While I've mostly stayed out of this lately, I would like to point out to Nick, in case he hasn't gone back through the original talk page posts about this issue, that many, if not most, historians and participants do not characterize the plan in any way so providing cites is rather difficult, which is why my preferred solution is to drop all use of the term and let readers make up their own mind. I also don't place any weight on any use of the term blitzkrieg without a definition since it's a word often used loosely, which appears to be just about everybody except Clark, but EyeTruth seems to have fixated on his use of the term as all the support needed for his position. That said, I'd be relatively content for a note explaining the differences of opinion.--] (]) 20:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
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	:: In addition to Clark, Glantz and Barbier have also used the term with a definition (I bet there are a lot others). And as I've said before, I agree that providing cites for the opposition will be difficult. That is why I suggest that the wording for the differing view be revised. In fact you worded it perfectly: "''participants do not characterize the plan in any way.''" BTW, how will excluding any mention of the term give wiki-readers more freedom to make up their mind as they see fit? A note explaining the differences of opinion, instead, is what will give readers more freedom to make up their mind. ] (]) 21:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
	::I would agree that ] term is hugely overused and appears to often be just shorthand for any German offensive. Glantz and House The Battle Of Kursk {Modern war studies) 1999 pg xiii, 472 states "For the German side, it spelled the death of the "blitzkrieg" (sic) and the beginning of defensive operations". I find the quote marks quite eloquent. I would suggest the note approach as mentioned above. Hitlers own operational outline appears to be harking back to a classic blitz approach, but I have not looked at it for ages. I do not know if any wording there would have any bearing, and in any case the northern and southern attacks appear to have been different in their offensive tactics. Cheers! ] (]) 22:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::: Well, if only someone could help me tell Gunbirddriver that other editors think that the "note approach" is a more viable solution than completely removing the term as he has done again, just very recently, with . In the edit, he even deleted sources, and I don't know why or to what end. ] (]) 01:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::Interestingly in our own Bitzkrieg article, is this (and no I am not falling into the trap of using WP as a source) attributed to Glantz and House, 1995, pg 167 which has been paraphrased as "Of course the Kursk operation did not comprise a true "blitzkrieg" operation..as there was no element of suprise, no breakthrough to outflank or strike at rear areas, and no psycological pressure being exerted upon the minds of the Soviet high command". The original Glantz & House wording there may be instructive if anyone has a copy to hand. There is some interesting sections in the "Blitzkrieg" article, which appear to be paraphrasing a debate as to whether it even existed as a unique or conscious tactic. Maybe the sources cited there would repay revisting, although I doubt you are unfamiliar with any of them. Cheers ] (]) 22:40, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::: That was Gunbirddriver's original research inserted with . He has done this type of stuff in the Kursk article (and not for contents regarding blitzkrieg) so many times, it should have driven me nuts. Debate over original research is one of things that soured our relations. I couldn't help but raise my tone sometimes. It also made me realize that he doesn't understand the three core content policies of Misplaced Pages, else this simple dispute wouldn't have become one big drama. ] (]) 01:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
	::::Hi all, I'm happy to help with this, but the above discussion really belongs on the article's talk page to maximise its visibility to interested editors. Regards, ] (]) 00:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Well GBD should not be taking out a whole small paragraph from a related WP article, and not even bothering to rework wording. That is naughty. Nick, can you transfer this thread to the Kursk talk? Cheers ] (]) 01:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
	::::::Done: I've copied and pasted it on the talk page. ] (]) 01:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
	Hi Nick, please can you keep a close watch on how things will unfold from here on. I've done what I believe is the best solution to this. I've given both sides their due weight; in fact, equal weight. And I took care to word it to perfectly reflect how the dispute runs. That is, some describe it as envisioning (or intending) blitzkrieg, while others simply make no mention of the term in their description (instead of saying that others do not consider it a blitzkrieg, which so far there are no sources ''explicitly'' supporting such claims). Also I kept it as brief as possible so as to not disrupt the flow of the text. . Please stay alert because I'm sure if the dispute continues past this point, it will generate an unnecessary keyboard-war, but I really hope not. ] (]) 06:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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	:Ok, Gunbirddriver has . His edit summary is the most striking thing about this action. The way he bends words is very scary (and has been effective). By stating that I've been "''asked by the administrator not to change the article until the weekend had passed,''" he is making it out as if I disobeyed an admin's explicit order. And then he states "''EyeTruth, you need to participate in the talk page and await a consensus''" as if I stayed away from the discussion. I'm fed up of his methods. By reverting the edit, he deleted several sources and historians that support inclusion and reintroduced red "cite-error" into the article. I already pointed out these issues earlier and he has made many edits since then but failed to rectify those issues. Eventually I fixed them and then modified the content. But the best he could input is to revert it all. ] (]) 07:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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	:Hi Adam, I think that you can just merge them yourself (converting the existing articles into redirects) - I don't think that the admin tools are needed here given that the article history will be pretty clear. I'm also pretty clueless about history merges, so you might want to ask another admin for help with this if you think that this is necessary. Regards, ] (]) 08:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::I tried my best with the merging last night. I made a complete mess of it. Hope you and anyone else can work out what I'm trying to do with the articles. ] (]) 00:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
	::::I'd suggest structuring the articles so that the history section has a sub-section for each iteration of the unit. Regards, ] (]) 10:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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			I ''think'' I found all the FAs for this month's Bugle. And the FPs, which grow increasingly less connected to MILHIST left to right (but I think all still count). <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.6% of all ].</sub></span> 23:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
	I just finished translating ''Military history of Australia during World War II'' (what a monster of an article, I fear it is too big to get it awarded in de:Wiki as not enough people would attend the review and nomination phase) and came over something I wonder about the names of RAAF units. Mostly they are in the style of ''No. xx (yy) Squadron RAAF'' but if I read the article, the RAAF isnt part of the given name in the text. So my question is, is the RAAF for the squadrons and wings etc. an official part of the name or just used for differentiation from other nations units? I would like to know this because I want to translate some wings (squadrons are not seen as notable in de:Wiki) and want to give them the right names. Best regards --] (]) 13:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
			:Thanks a lot Adam. ] (]) 10:34, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
	:Hi Bomzibar, The usual practice is to refer to the squadrons as simply No. xx (yy - where relevant) Squadron when referring to it in text. I think that the 'RAAF' at the end forms part of the official name, but it's normally only used in titles and lists or where units from different Commonwealth air forces are present in the same area and there's a need to differentiate them. I'm going to ping {{ping|Ian Rose}} though in case I'm mistaken. Regards, ] (]) 08:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
	::Hi guys, my understanding -- certainly my practice and what seems to be fairly common usage in sources -- is the same as Nick's. Just as a side point,FWIW, the main change I've noted through the years is in abbreviations. The evidence seems to be that for a long time you always abbreviated a squadron name to "No. 3 Sqn" or an operational conversion unit to "No. 2 OCU", whereas since the '90s at least the service (and some sources) omit "No." and spaces, and capitalise unit type, e.g. "3SQN" or "2OCU". I never abbreviate "squadron" in WP articles, and I don't think anyone else does who writes quality articles. For more long-winded unit types like operational conversion units, I always use the older-style abbreviation (e.g. "No. 2 OCU"), which is consistent with the sort of abbreviations in use when most units were raised, but I wouldn't go out of my way to make trouble for some using "2OCU", which seems to be the current service preference. Cheers, ] (]) 12:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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			], you said the ] article is not up to FAC standards yet. I've made several attempts to polish the prose and ensure text-source integrity, but, unfortunately, the article is still pretty short as it is hard to find additional sources on the topic. What do you think about the article now? (]) ] (]) 13:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
	Hi Nick, I don't think anyone has told you that the ADF article has been suggested in the "any date" section of TFAR. As it's a 2007 FA (even though it's one of yours ;-) ) I thought it would be useful to get opinions from you and others as to whether all it needed was a quick bit of polishing of cap badges before appearing on a parade or whether it ought to be reduced to the ranks for insubordination... There's no need to rush to reply. Yours, ]] 20:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
			== Possible sock puppet at British Empire ==
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			Could I beg 5 minutes of your time, could you have a look at ] and ].
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			This user tried to sneak the description "superpower" into the lede of British Empire with a misleading edit summary https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=British_Empire&diff=1189352775&oldid=1189142714],. I asked them about it, their reply seems a bit off to me. I was wondering if this might be HarveyCarter? <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]]</span><sub>]</sub> 14:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
	== Vote on blitzkrieg controversy at Kursk ==
			:Hi, The general editing pattern looks different. You might want to start a sockpuppet report to ask that a checkuser look into this if there's a pattern of specific edits though. Regards, ] (]) 09:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
			:Wow. @]: I’ve been editing on WP for a few years, and never been accused of sock puppetry.
	:Hi Nick. I have created a new voting section on ]. I have laid out the summaries and voting procedure to the best of my ability. I think it captures the flavour, is timebound and establishes groundrules so it does not develop into another lengthy exchange. Please have a look. ] (]) 04:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
			:My understanding of WP policy thus far is that these type of accusations are usually made via official channels and not on a specific administrator’s talk page. Like on ] per ].
	::As I already mentioned in the article's talk page, the vote is resetting all progress made. It is targeting the same options that took us to DRN, in which several editors, citing WP policies, suggested a solution. And a good number of them think it is unnecessary to continue with the drama and have moved on. I personally think a vote will help. But voting on issues that have already been discussed extensively and dealt with, will only lead to a restart of the debate all over again, especially if #2 is selected. Anyways, I elaborated the problem with the target of this vote on the talk page. ] (]) 04:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
	:::I've just commented there. Regards, ] (]) 05:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)		:Please clarify this as I feel targeted. <span style="color:#CD0000">] ★ (])</span> 21:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
			:@] I consider this as ]. And I kindly request yoi retract your statements both here and the ] pages that insist I ‘sneak’ and made a ‘misleading edit’. By striking it through or by just apologising. Please let’s not be like this to editors who have never even had an interaction before. <span style="color:#CD0000">] ★ (])</span> 21:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
	::::Following your suggestion, I made a poll to establish consensus for the wordings. How is ]? ] (]) 16:11, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
			::It's totally normal for editors to directly ask admins to directly look into the potential re-occurrence of sockmasters they have experience with, as assessments are often made on the basis of editing patterns. I'm one of a bunch of admins who have been involved with chasing HarveyCarter socks - they are one of the most prolific sockmasters in subject areas I edit. Regards, ] (]) 05:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
	HI Nick, ] and ]. I wanted to make you all aware of my concern with the presentation of the voting options in the Kursk poll. I'm very seriously concerned with the neutrality of the presentation of the poll choices. I think the second choice (which I contributed in no small part to authorship of) is presented it in such a manner (w/ positive comment that equates to advocacy, whilst the first option is presented with a "blank" comment that makes it appear as if there's nothing to recommend it as a choice) as to introduce unintentional bias. Option #1 needs a comment/summary similar to the treatment Option #2 received, a comment that summarizes the proposed edit and highlights its attributes, or there should be no comment(s) appended to the second voting choice in the interest of fairness. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]</span>''' 21:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
			::@] I kindly ask you to apologise, or retract your uncivil statements. <span style="color:#CD0000">] ★ (])</span> 21:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
	::], I intentionally left it blank since I didn't want Gunbirddriver to eat me raw for making an assessment in his place. If it were an intended bias, then there would be no conspicuously blank space left for the comment. Frankly, anyone can go ahead and provide a comment there. But for the meantime, "''pending''" or anything else anyone prefers can go there. ] (]) 22:30, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
			:::@] Your previous incivility towards me, now inability to reflect on your actions, and continued lack of the impact this has on editors such as myself and the feeling of being targeted imo. I’ve noted on your previous contributions this is common place in your edits, and advise you to consider your assumptions and mindset. <span style="color:#CD0000">] ★ (])</span> 15:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
	:Hi ]. Please see my latest post in the voting space. My arguments for V2 are condensed there. I am grateful to you for helping codify V2. That was the kind of compromise I mentioned and envisaged before you joined us, upthread. V1 is weaker. By ignoring the Blitzkrieg-no-blitzkrieg debate it invites future edit wars and us having to go through this all again. We are at last making progress, so this can only be a positive. Cheers! ] (]) 21:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
	::Am I right in thinking that the above issue has been resolved? The current voting option looks like a good way of managing this issue - nice work to all involved in setting it up and tweaking it. ] (]) 07:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)		::::I don't see what repeatedly making these kinds of attacks is achieving, especially on my talk page - you are claiming that WCM was uncivil to you, yet this behaviour of yours is clearly unhelpful and - to be blunt - aggressive and rude. If you really think that this is a serious user conduct problem (which it is not IMO), take it to ]. If not, move on. ] (]) 21:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
			:::::You miss this because of your bias. Bias is something which an admin should not have. Your behaviour should be exemplary. Your understanding and mediation should be sound. Please take a step back. <span style="color:#CD0000">] ★ (])</span> 20:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
	:::yes, resolved. ] (]) 14:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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	I saw your contribution on the page and was wondering if you cold tend to an edit request I made on the article's talk page. ] (]) 13:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
	:Done - and I knocked over another request while I was there. Regards, ] (]) 11:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
			] also assumed ownership of the article just by brushing off my edit as "not an improvement". Are you also implying that an user simply not being pleased by an edit is a reason for undoing said edit? ] (]) 04:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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			:You changed referenced material without providing a new reference that supports it. ] (]) 04:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			::Errantios did not provide any references to support his reasons for undoing the edit, either. ] 04:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::The existing material is referenced. Please see ]. ] (]) 04:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			::::The information provided in the edit is virtually the same, albeit reworded and restyled. Also, sources and references were not included in the edits. ] (]) 04:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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			::::::I did read them. I'm just saying the question did not involve sources, but rather a section being simply reworded and restyled. ] (]) 04:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::::::Also, just to let you know, both edits had the same source. ] (]) 02:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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	:This is the most hilarious thing I've see on Misplaced Pages. So now you are also reporting Nick-D? And now EyeTruth is same as Blablaaa. XD. What happened man? you felt that consensus was massively against you and time is running out. So, you decided to go apeshit? ], you just screwed up. And dude, your skill at bending words and twisting scenarios are unbelievable. It still scares. ] (]) 03:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
			Dear Nick,
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			I've made some changes to the Falintil-FDTL organisation page. The short-lived force of the mid-1970s focused on company-level units; I have reason to believe that since 2006 the current force has trended back towards that direction. We can correspond, should you wish, regarding how frequently updated the assessments of the IISS can be, and their choice of focus on particular world regions, but see here for comment. ] ] 18:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
	Hey Nick-D. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the ] in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.
			:Hi, do you have sources for this? Not much has been published on the F-FDTL in recent years, so it's hard to track what's going on with the force. The very modest and sensible-looking new Air Component is a sign that the government is setting realistic goals for the force's structure rather than the more ambitious/grandiose previous structures and plans. Regards, ] (]) 07:17, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
			::Might be better to talk by e-mail. Cheers ] ] 10:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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	We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.
			Could you possibly lend a hand with getting this article to DYK? I'm thinking a hook along the lines of "...that the ship '']'' sank before it even had a chance to finish its first voyage?" I've started it ]. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.7% of all ].</sub></span> 21:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
	Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just ]. Thanks! ] 22:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
			:{{ping|Adam Cuerden}} I tend to favour simple DYK hooks - how about something like: ... that the ship ''''']''''' ran aground ''(pictured)'' and was wrecked at the end of its first voyage from Liverpool to Australia? ] (]) 09:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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	Please take care not to separate statements from reference citations while editing. I have repaired two detached paragraphs in subject article; but request you provide a reference citation for the ] addition.] (]) 15:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Fair point, but the content was totally wrong. Regards, ] (]) 22:24, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Would you clarify the erroneous content and the nature of the error, please?] (]) 23:12, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::The statements that the Operation Tungsten and Operation Goodwood attacks were made by the escorts of convoys wasn't accurate - these strikes were conducted by separate forces as part of pre-planned operations (the British used part of the Tungsten attack force to screen a convoy for a few days, but the main role of these ships was to attack Tirpitz). I'm not sure if you've seen, but I've redeveloped the Tungsten article over the last few months, and it's currently up for A-class review at ], and I'd appreciate any comments you might have :) Regards, ] (]) 10:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::Thank you for the invitation to comment. As you can see from my comments at the suggested location, I disagree with the opinion these strike forces were independent of the convoys. The term "escort" had various meanings in the tactical disposition of warships protecting merchant shipping. Independently routed trade shipping was considered vulnerable to submarine and aircraft attack, but convoys were considered an attractive target for larger surface warships. Small warships providing convoy anti-aircraft and anti-submarine protection were identified as the "screen" by USN, although the term "escort" appears widely used in laymen's accounts. USN used the term "escort" to identify capital ships available to defend the convoy from surface attack while maneuvering separately to minimize detection and attack by submarines shadowing the convoy. These heavy covering forces routinely operated defensively where attack by surface forces was a reasonable possibility. Early trans-Atlantic convoys were often "escorted" by ]s in mid-ocean where attack by surface raiders was expected. The specific operations you identified were performed by heavy naval units either posing or acting as defensive covering forces for specific convoys. These covering forces usually had two missions. The defensive mission of convoy safety had to be satisfied before opportunities for an offensive strike could be undertaken. Most histories of convoy PQ 17 provide descriptions of Arctic covering force tactics during the second world war.] (]) 20:03, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Thanks for your comments. One of the Operation Tungsten strike forces ("Force Two") was entirely independent of the convoy, and the smaller Force One only briefly played a covering force role as a precurser to striking the battleship. The fleet was originally intended to sail entirely independently from any convoys, but the operation was combined somewhat with the convoy due mainly to delays to it being launched which were caused by delays to upgrading one of the carriers. I do agree with your comments about the need to put this operation in the context of the Arctic convoy system though, as this is ultimately why it was conducted. Regards, ] (]) 11:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::Thank you for this information. I had conceptually been aware the late war situation with respect to preponderance of forces and effective reduction of German reconnaissance allowed the Allies greater latitude in deployment of assets; but I would value reference citations for specific events documenting these changes. Could you suggest documentation for the orders directing these strikes to act independently?] (]) 17:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::Sure - see the references for this material in the Operation Tungsten article ;) They're quite explicit about this and the subsequent carrier raids being separate operations. Patrick Bishop's book is the most accessible work (and is also a good read if you're interested in the topic), but Roskill and Hinsley et al.'s official history volumes provide the most authoritative account. Regards, ] (]) 11:46, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
			Hi, what's your preferred procedure for articles in ''The Bugle''? I might like to provide a book review occasionally, but don't want to step on your toes. ] (]) 21:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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			:Hi, No stepping on toes would be involved - {{u|Ian Rose}} and I always really welcome contributions. For book reviews you can either draft them in your user space, or post them directly in the next edition of the Bugle via ]. Regards, ] (]) 08:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
			::As an aside, I think I've finished the featured content page, unless something passes A-class, FA, or FL in the next couple days (there's nothing MILHIST left in the FP queue that'll pass before 2 February, except the basically 100% guaranteed to pass Pedro II photo.) <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all ].</sub></span> 14:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::Thanks Adam ] (]) 07:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 213, January 2024 ==
	Nick, do you have any objection if I replace some occurences of "which" by "that"? I'm bringing this up here because I don't want to sidetrack a review with a copyediting issue. It's a bit involved ... I can go into it if you like. - Dank (]) 21:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Dank, Please do so. Regards, ] (]) 10:44, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
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	:Can a bot not automatically do that? ] (]) 00:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)		:Hi, I've just done that. Thanks for fixing this article! Regards, ] (]) 05:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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	::I think a bot could, but I don't know of any bot that currently does it. (I think there might have been one at one point, though; I have a fuzzy recollection of there being one.) Even so, it's generally a good idea to subst the template when you make the edit, just like it's always good to sign a comment even though we have SineBot. Cheers, <small>— Preceding <span style="color:#0645AD;">''signed''</span> comment added by ] (] • ])</small> 01:08, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
			:::I've just revdeled those edits. Regards, ] (]) 07:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
	::Nick, it looks like you were right! It took me a while to find it, but I just happened upon ], which appears to "belong" to ]. So, there does appear to be a bot who does this kind of thing. I'll head on over to AnomieBOT and ask her owner how I should go about having the welcome templates added to her task list. (I'm not entirely sure if there has to be additional discussion or not; I'm assuming the owner will know.) Thank you for making me think of that! Happy editing <tt>:)</tt> <small>— Preceding <span style="color:#0645AD;">''signed''</span> comment added by ] (] • ])</small> 15:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
			::::Thanks. ] has the same issues, but I will think a bit further on it, potentially making further edits, before I work out exactly what I ask you to do. ] ] 17:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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			Congratulations, and thank you today for ], introduced (in 2018): "This article covers a little-remembered, but significant, incident during World War II. In March 1944 the Australian and US military leadership in the South West Pacific became concerned that a powerful Japanese naval force was headed for the important Western Australian port of Fremantle. In response, reinforcements were rushed to the area, several American and Dutch submarines put to sea and the city's air and coastal defences were placed on alert. The tension increased over several days, and on 10 March air raid sirens were sounded when what appeared to be an enemy aircraft was detected. However, it all soon proved to a false alarm. The only Japanese force at sea was a small group of warships which conducted an unsuccessful raid against Allied shipping in the Indian Ocean. Overall, the article provides an interesting insight into the strategic situation in early 1944, an example of the limitations of intelligence information, and a reminder that the war was not yet won." --] (]) 10:42, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
			... and today forthe other, Operation Title, "a valiant but failed Allied attack on the German battleship Tirpitz during October 1942. The attack plan was like something out of a thriller, and partially formed the basis of a postwar movie. It involved a small Norwegian ship smuggling two British manned torpedoes through heavily defended waters. While the manned torpedo crews were superbly trained and likely to have crippled Tirpitz, the operation failed at the last moment when shoddy workmanship caused both of the craft to be lost when they separated from the bottom of the trawler during a storm. The Allied personnel attempted to escape overland to Sweden, with one of the British seamen being captured and murdered by the Germans and the others making it across the border."! --] (]) 21:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
	==Coordinator==
	Thankyou Nick for your message and your national election vote, which I saw on FB. That's the way I would have voted too. I do not intend to stand for coordinator election, but I'm quite happy for you to ask me to do so. Hope you're having a good weekend. Cheers ] ] 21:25, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
	:No worries at all - I appreciate that you're a bit busy. My weekend went downhill as the results came in last night, but it could have been worse ;) Regards, ] (]) 23:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
			] mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --] (]) 15:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
	== Regarding a MILHIST incubator group ==
			== A-class promotions in February ==
	Hi there Nick-D. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind providing some feedback on ] that I started a few months ago for articles relating to ] and ]. Being that it truly involves articles from around the world I was wondering if you had any ideas for generating interest/membership from knowledgeable contributors. For example I don't know anything about the Israeli special forces so I wouldn't even know where to begin to potentially solicit knowledgeable individuals on the topic to see if they would be interested in joining. Additionally I was wondering if after looking at some of the links you thought that maybe I made the group too broad in scope, because that's crossed my mind before but I didn't want to revise the entire group to make it more exclusive based on a whim of mine. I compiled a short (and incomplete) ] within the scope of the incubator group if it helps. Thanks for your help good sir, —<font face=Verdana><span style="border:1px solid;border-radius:1.7em 0"><span style="background:#000;border-radius:1.5em 0 0"> -]</span>] &nbsp;</span></font> 18:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Dainomite, I'd suggest advertising this group through a post at ]. You could also identify editors with an interest in this topic by looking through the histories of articles on special forces-related topics and then contact them. I know that {{user|Jim Sweeney}} has an interest in British commando units of World War II. I hope that's helpful, Regards, ] (]) 09:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Thank you for the advice Nick, I appreciate it. Looks like I will have to do some article history diving. Cheers, —<font face=Verdana><span style="border:1px solid;border-radius:1.7em 0"><span style="background:#000;border-radius:1.5em 0 0"> -]</span>] &nbsp;</span></font> 23:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
			Am I correct in thinking their weren't any, or is the bot acting up? If there weren't any, I just need to summarise three FAs and we're ready to go. Kind of pleased to see I'm not over-dominating fetured pictures this month.
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			As for April's Bugle, d'ye think ] and the ] count as MILHIST? They're on the margins. ] is pretty much definitely passing, so I know we'll have at least one MILHIST FP, probably more, March is quite young. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all ].</sub></span> 20:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
	== Idea for the Bugle ==
			:Hi Adam, I don't think that Curtis or McGuires are in scope as there isn't a strong military-related aspect to their lives. Yes, unfortunately no new A-class articles were promoted in February. Regards, ] (]) 10:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
			:Aye, suppose the Coal Wars are more of a metaphor. Well, will sort things out for the three FAs. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all ].</sub></span> 16:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
			== Books & Bytes – Issue 61 ==
	] has been almost totally rewritten by me. It failed A Class but is still up for GA status review with all the A Class comments resolved. Also, with regards to that article it has crossed my mind that it's far too long and I was mulling over the idea of creating ] both to cut it down and to create what could be a very interesting article on its own. Unfortunately I can't be of assistance further than making suggestions because I picked up a topic ban due to an incident related to ] elsewhere and the articles on the UDR are troubles related. ] (]) 12:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Hello, I'm not sure what topic the article you're proposing here would cover - could you please elaborate? Regards, ] (]) 10:16, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Certainly. If you examine what's already there at ] you'll hopefully see, as I do, that there are many unique features about Greenfinches in the UDR, not least amongst them the fact that they were the first women in the British Army to be fully incorporated into combat units. The model was later adopted by the rest of the army and led to the disbandment of the Women's Royal Army Corps. I would say there is enough material on them already in the UDR article to provide for a separate article but there is a lot more which could be included from other sources. Really the problem now is that the host article is already too long and it may well be time to create sub articles like this to prepare it for GA status. ] (]) 12:43, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::Are you proposing a new article or an idea for a ] opinion piece? ]&nbsp;<sup>]] ]]</sup> 15:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::I see both possibilities. The UDR article doesn't receive much attention from MILHIST but it's full of interesting facts with as many more left out because of the length of it. Working on it since may though I've seen no members of the project involving themselves. Given that my stamp is all over it now I think outside opinion and editing would be very valuable. The same goes for the creation of the sub-article. I can certainly do it when my topic ban finishes but wouldn't it be better if someone other than me were to create the article? I don't want to be the only person identified with these articles on the UDR - there are 18 at the moment. All of which could do with more time spent on them. You asked for ideas so I gave them to you. ] (]) 15:39, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Thank you for that suggestion. However, I don't think that the Bugle is the best forum to post a request for the article to be created. If the terms of your topic ban permit it, you may wish to list the article at ]. Regards, ] (]) 02:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::I was simply responding to your request ] for contribution ideas and new articles. Perhaps I've misunderstood in which case I do apologise. ] (]) 12:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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	Hello Nick-D, I am highly certain, that editor ], currently editing on Contras, 2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt, Vietnam war pages and others, is a Sock-puppet of ]. What do think? Regards, ] (]) 13:42, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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	:Hi Stumink, I've been through that editor's contributions and compared them to Horhey's, and I agree that it's clearly him. I have blocked the account, and thank you for raising this. Per the usual procedures all of their edits can and should be reverted. Regards, ] (]) 08:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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	::Thanks, I'll have a look at his previous edits. ] (]) 11:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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	== re:Operation Tungsten ==		== Battle of Tinian ==
			Since you reviewed ] at A-class, I was wondering if you could do the same for ] at ] ] ] 04:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
	Hi Nick. I'll try to get it done later today. Sorry I haven't uploaded those photos earlier, but I've been travelling the last three weeks or so, and I'm also not doing very well health-wise these days. Now, I've got a lot of photos, which would be more preferable? The most senior people lost in the operation, all the fatalities of the operation buried in Tromsø, or just one as an example? ] (]) 12:37, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks for that, and I'm sorry to hear about your health - I hope that you're on the mend. If you have a photos showing multiple graves they would be particularly useful, but if not any examples would be great. Regards, ] (]) 08:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)		:Sure, I'd be very happy to. ] (]) 05:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
	::Thanks for your concern. I seem to be getting a bit better, and I intend to upload photos today.
	::Now, I have photos showing the entire Commonwealth War Graves section of the cemetery (it's not very large), so I can upload one of those, as well as photos of the individual graves belonging to airmen lost during Operation Tungsten. I can leave it to you to decide how many photos should be used, and where they should be placed. ] (]) 09:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::Thanks, that sounds great. Regards, ] (]) 10:04, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::Pics have now been uploaded. Check and . ] (]) 00:04, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Thank you very much! ] (]) 00:06, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::You're welcome. There were quite a few interesting gravestones in that cemetery, other than the ones relating to Operation Tungsten. I'll probably upload a few more in the coming days, and add them to various articles. Cheers. ] (]) 00:33, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
	== Mentorship ==		== request for help ==
			Hello,
			I am a new member of the Military history wikiproject, and I see you are a experienced editor. Although I appreciate that you will be busy, it would be kind of you to tell me how to request an article for re-assessment, as it currently does not make any sense to me!
			Thanks
			Sgtnugg
			:Hi, and welcome to the project! If you'd like the article to be assessed against the B-class criteria you can request this at ]. Please note that you can do the assessment yourself, though it's encouraged to seek a second opinion if you've contributed significantly to the article. If you're seeking an A-class review, they're handled via ]. Good Article reviews are handled centrally via ] rather than through individual wikiprojects. Regards, ] (]) 00:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 216, April 2024 ==
	Nick,
	Please note at ], I've just posted stating I would accept your mentorship suggestion.
	Would you perhaps agree that other editors should also seek a mentor if the topic ban is removed altogether. BTW ] has just opposed the lifting of his own topic ban. ] <small>]</small> 16:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
	First question. ] is making the very serious allegation that I am committing citation fraud. I cannot of course respond due to the topic ban. However, if you take as an example the first topic where he alleges this to be the case, you will see I have provided URL to online sources that show this claim is untrue. How would you suggest I respond? ] <small>]</small> 17:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Hello, I wouldn't worry too much about Andrés' comments - it's been pointed out to him that that AN isn't an appropriate forum to make such statements, and no-one appears to be paying much attention to them (no-one really wants to get into the details of obscure British-Argentine disagreements at AN). I have pretty good access to academic sources, and should be able to check the content of most journal articles and some books. Regards, ] (]) 23:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
	::OK I'll ignore them. ] <small>]</small> 14:33, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::I see ] ], is it worth noting there is a history there and he is ]? ] <small>]</small> 17:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::BTW just found this, , Lightbulb! ] <small>]</small> 17:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::I'm not familiar with Future Perfect at Sunrise's editing history, but if they have had a significant level of involvement in the dispute, you could note that, but please also include some supporting evidence (eg, a link or two to relevant talk page discussions, etc). ] (]) 02:14, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::To cut a long story short, he has nursed a greivance ever since that RFC came close to recommending he be referred to arbcom for a possibly desyopping. Ever since, if my name comes up at ] or ] he will propose a sanction against me; you can make a case for this simply being retaliation. Its one of several examples of retaliation by editors with grudges but its perhaps less obvious than the others. Some are obvious and I've taken the message on board that responding is not helping me but wondered about that one. ] <small>]</small> 16:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
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	==Brisbane soccer leagues==
			Hi Nick-D. Sir, would you be so kind (when and if you have time) to add a protection template to the ] page? It seems a very stubborn unregistered user with a short history of edit-warring keeps messing up very well-written syntax, which is forcing me to manually clean up behind them. Danke and mach's gut. ] (]) 18:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
	Hi Nick, sorry if I am writing in the wrong spot, I have no idea what I'm doing. My name is Schmaig, and have recieved a notification from you regarding information I have posted. You have deleted some of my contributions because I haven't met curtain requirements. This is understandable, but I do not know how to meet these reqirements. The information I provided was correct and up to date, and now that it has been removed, wikipedia is now exhibiting old, out of date information. This out of date info is what prompted me to make the corrections in the first place. Is there no way that wikipedia could confirm or deny the reliability of incoming info, rather than just deleting it?
			:Hi, as there have been no edits in the last 48 hours or so, there aren't any grounds at present to protect the article. I'd suggest requesting this at ] in the future for a quicker response. Regards, ] (]) 03:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
	Thank you
			::Gotcha...thanks anyway.--] (]) 19:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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	:Hi Schmaig, ] sets out the requirements for organisations such as these soccer leagues to meet Misplaced Pages's notability criteria - in short, for something to be notable it needs to have been the subject of in-depth coverage in reliable and independent sources. Which articles are out of date? It's generally best to jump in and update them rather than create spin offs. Regards, ] (]) 06:09, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi Nick, thanks for your reply. The articles that are out of date involve name changes to league divisions. I wasn't able to change the name. I looked for info regarding name changes and found info saying to redirect to new article with correct name. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Hi Nick-D. Thank you for your work on ]. Another editor, ], has reviewed it as part of ] and left the following comment:
	==467 Squadron==
	G'day, Nick, I've done a little bit of work on ] today, mainly just to focus on something different. I don't have any paper sources at the moment, unfortunately, so I can't take it much further. Not sure if it is on your list to expand, but if it is please don't hold back on my account. Cheers, ] (]) 11:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Nice work with this - it's a good approach to summarising the complicated histories of the RAAF heavy bomber squadrons in Europe. I've been meaning to tackle them, but their history is hard to summarise: the official history (available on the AWM website) provides a blow by blow account of every operation they undertook, which makes the topic rather daunting to approach! Regards, ] (]) 11:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
	::{{TPS}} If you can, add some numbers for squadron strengths on various dates. I know some of the RAF Bomber Command squadrons fluctuated widely in authorized strengths, adding a third flight, etc.--] (]) 15:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::Cheers, Sturm, I managed to find something on that, so I've added a short paragraph. Regards, ] (]) 06:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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	Hello there. First, I'd like to thank you for your support at my RfA. I'm very grateful, and am trying hard to live up to expectations. Sorry about the long post:
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	Now, the Russavia thing: As you were the last to block Russavia, I thought I'd drop you a line.
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	I know very, very little about the whole Russavia block matter, but am guessing there are those who are not too happy with him.
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	I just wanted to tell you this. Maybe you could pass this link on to others who might think ill of me for doing that. To them I'd like to say that I'm very sorry, that I was acting in good faith, and that I realized two minutes after copying those stubs that the whole thing was probably not a good idea, and that it could upset people. So, I'm sorry and I won't do it again. Please don't be furious. I was sort of on the spot and I just said, okay, and then only right after said, oh dear, that's probably not such a good idea.
			I am here based on your interest in history to ask (beg?) for you to do a look over of the High and Late Middle Ages sections of this page with an eye toward FA. If you can't, no hard feelings. But please help if you can! ] (]) 19:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
	Best wishes and I hope all is okay. :) ] (]) 13:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
			:Hello, I'm afraid that I don't know enough about this topic to be able to offer useful comments. Regards, ] (]) 07:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Australian Defence Force - Prime Minister ==
	:Hi Anna, You made the right call. Russavia is de-facto banned as a result of the discussion at ] and really shouldn't be soliciting people on IRC to edit on their behalf. I see that he's been creating a string of obviously non-simple English articles on the simple English Misplaced Pages and is asking people to copy them across here, which seems a rather cynical use of that Misplaced Pages. Regards, ] (]) 08:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
			Hello {{Ping|Nick-D}} please see below.
	::Thanks, Nick-D. I should have used my noggin and refused in the first place. I'm a bit naive sometimes, and my first reaction is often "Okay. Sure, I'll help." I'll do my utmost to be more thoughtful in the future.
			"Who can exercise the power ?
	::Anyway, I didn't post here to ''tell on him'', but for transparency and to seek forgiveness from those who sought the block in the first place. I read some of ] just now, and started to see double. I'm not very good at the whole ANI thing, and find the threads awfully long and hard to figure out.
			2.26As outlined above, the constitutional prerogative power to go to war is vested in the Governor-General by virtue of s 61. While the Governor-General has the formal power to make decisions regarding armed conflict and exercise control of the armed forces, by convention the Executive branch of government – that is, the Prime Minister and the Cabinet – will ultimately decide whether to go to war or conduct warlike operations."
			Further, the GG (as CiC) acts on advice given by the Prime Minister, which in the case of the employment of the armed forces through the national security committee, which is also chaired by the Prime Minister. The NSC may skip the GG entirely and go straight to the CDF. "The process, of which I appreciate many committee members are aware—decisions on the employment (sic) of the ADF, in my experience, have all been taken through the National Security Committee of cabinet"
	::I hope all is well now. A thousand pardons to everyone. Thank you for being so understanding, and my very best wishes to you. :) ] (]) 09:39, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
			As head of the executive the branch of government, he and the cabinet have the power to exercise control of the armed forces.
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			] --regards, ] (]) 14:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Yes, but that's quite different to what you added to the article. It is discussing who has authority to send Australia to war, not exercise control over the ADF and notes the role of Cabinet as well as the PM (the PM's authority derives in a lot of ways from their role as the chair of Cabinet). As the scandal relating to Scott Morrison's multiple ministries illustrated, the prime minister's authority is a long way from being absolute in the Australian system of government, as ministers are generally designated the ultimate decision makers under legislation. ] (]) 23:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
	== Bombing of Darwin casualty figure ==		== Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha ==
			Hello @], thank you for leaving a comment on ] for ]. I was wondering if you would be interested in supporting the nomination? ] (]) 13:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
	Dear Nick,
			:Hi, I'll look in on this nomination on the weekend with an eye to posting a full(er) review. Thanks for the note. ] (]) 11:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
	Casualty figures for the Bombing of Darwin given in the Lowe Commission are incorrect. There is now documentary evidence available online, at the National Archives of Australia web site, which prove the correct figures. The Research Staff at the Northern Territory Library have compiled the list of dead from the Raid
	http://www.ntlexhibit.nt.gov.au/exhibits/show/bod/roh/location
	This is accepted by historians Alan Powell, Tom Lewis and Bob Alford as being the best possible reckoning.
	I have tried changing this on Misplaced Pages on several occasions in the past, but people keep undoing the changes.
	I am about to edit the casualties section again, and I hope no one will remove the changes yet again.
	Interestingly the correct casualty figures are shown for the Preston, Peary, Zealandia, Mauna Loa and Neptuna in the individual Misplaced Pages entries
	Regards
	John <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:39, 25 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	:Hi John, Can you provide references which assert that those historians accept that figure? It would add a lot to the article. Regards, ] (]) 11:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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			:Thank you! ] (]) 22:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	''noted, and ignored - I'm not into playing games'' - You appear to be continuing to accuse me of rudeness, aggression and insults without any basis for such accusations. To me, this looks very much like you <u>are</u> playing some sort of game. Please stop harassing me - I'm sure you have much better, more interesting and more useful things to do with your time. ] (]) 14:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
	:You're making a habbit of stomping around the place threatening editors with being blocked for disagreeing with you: , , . This is unhelpful, and especially when directed at new editors such as AAndreas (we were all new here once, and he's clearly well-intentioned). Please stop doing this. ] (]) 02:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Nonsense!
	::It is Misplaced Pages policy that says "discuss it or get blocked". I am simply quoting Misplaced Pages policy. If this is "making a habbit of stomping around the place threatening editors with being blocked", it has NOTHING to do with <u>me</u> - '''''<u>I</u>''''' didn't make the Misplaced Pages policy!
	::To quote an experienced admin with whom I have had a lot of experience and have had a lot of respect (i.e. you): "This is unhelpful, and especially when directed at" experienced editors. Yes, "we were all new here once", but he doesn't seem to be taking much notice of the guidance he's being given, so no matter how "clearly well-intentioned" you may wish to classify him as, how else do you suggest he be informed with emphasis?
	::And then there's the Englishman who doesn't understand the word consensus. What's your reaction? To repeat what I said, and in the same breath accuse me of being the devil incarnate for saying exactly the same thing.
	::To be honest, I've yet to see anything from you on these matters in the last couple of weeks that's useful to improving the encyclopaedia. As I said, I've always respected your opinion, but some of your recent statements do not impress me, and are putting a strain on my opinion.
	::I'd much prefer that we return to the relationship we've had for the last 6 years. Is there any reason why we can not do this? ] (]) 13:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
			Hi Nick-D, hope you're doing well. I would really appreciate a review of this article in preparation for FAC over ]. Thanks, ] <sup>(])</sup> 05:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
	== FYI? ==
			:Hello, This isn't a topic I know anything about to be honest, but I'll try to leave some comments in the PR over the next few days. Regards, ] (]) 08:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Thanks a lot, ] <sup>(])</sup> 16:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
			== About my revision in WW2 ==
	] (]) 12:50, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Solved/resolved by] ]. Sorry to bother you. ] (]) 13:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			About my revision in ].
	Hi Nick-D,
	I've added an ALT version of the image cropping out the sea wall. If you have a chance, could you take another look. It may (or may not) be an improvement. Thanks-] (]) 02:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	==Long Tân==
	Okay, thanks for the message. How should we proceed. Since it was done with reference to the RFC we have just had about Vietnamese geo names - and since the problem of lack of full fonts in military history sources (Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War and a few other hardback sources excepted) was raised on that Talk page, how do you want to proceed. Should the RFC be reopened to see whether it applies to Long Tân? ] (]) 04:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:I see you have also addition of Vietnamese font and the Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War reference to the article lead as well. Is there some sort of WikiProject Military history guideline in regards to only use basic ABCabc character set in article body? I'm a bit surprised. If so does it apply to WWI and WWII articles also, or just Vietnam? ] (]) 04:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Scratch the second question; ] 1944, same ]; then why just Vietnam? Can you link to discussion please. ] (]) 04:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::Hello, A routine discussion on the article's talk page seems the sensible approach per the usual way of handling contested moves. My concern with your change is that almost all English-language sources refer to this as the "Battle of Long Tan", so moving it to something else isn't in line with ]. Regards, ] (]) 05:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::As regards ''title'', I don't think that's going to work, because ] has no bearing on whether a topic is mentioned in sources with ABCabc fonts or full fonts. The whole point of the RFC and previous RMs is exactly this issue, the lack of reliablity of ABCabc font sources for non ABCabc names. I think if you are challenging the basis of the RFC, then this needs to go back to the RFC participants.
	::::As regards ''article body'', lead, ] has no bearing on article body, this is a MOS question. It would help to understand the scope/scale of your objection. Is it just this the text body of this one article? Is it all WikiProject Military History articles? Is it all articles where WikiProject Vietnam and WikiProject Military History intersect? Is it Vietnam War or all Wars going back to Vietnam vs Champa or vs Tang Dynasty China? Some clarity on the extent of your objection would help in determining the appropriate forum in which to discuss and hopefully resolve the matter. Cheers. ] (]) 06:02, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::Please start a discussion about your proposed move on the article's talk page per the usual procedure with contested moves. Regards, ] (]) 06:05, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::I also note that ] specifies that "...when deciding between versions of a word which differ in the use or non-use of modified letters, follow the general usage in reliable sources that are written in the English language", which is the point I'm trying to make here. But as I said, this is best discussed on the article's talk page. Regards, ] (]) 06:12, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::I am more concerned with the removal of Vietnamese name and the Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War (Oxford) reference from the lead and infobox. Could you please per ] discuss on the Talk page why you have removed the text from the lead. Thanks. ] (]) 06:21, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::I made you're now discussing to remove the insertion of the non-standard English name for the battle as well as your unexplained change to the lead. I didn't notice that I was removing a reference as part of this, but am not sure what the importance of this reference is (especially as the article has over 300 other references). It's also not correct to state that the battle was fought in the "former ]" given that this was (as I understand it) a province at the time. Regards, ] (]) 06:28, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::::No problem, just please leave a note to that effect on the article Talk page re revert of edit to the lead per WP:BRD, and I will come back and look and see if there is any other comment in 7 days or so. Thanks. ] (]) 07:04, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::::No, that's not how it works. If you'd like to make these changes, please make your case on the talk pages for other editors to discuss. ] (]) 07:13, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
			Since no more than one source is needed, in my opinion it is better to leave my source since it is easier to verify due to my book being in open access with a link directly heading to the needed page.
	==Your help please==
	A mate of mine from a very long time ago has possibly passed away but one of his NLA mates has posted it without a ] - I for the like of me have failed to find anything online - just in case you might know of any other means of ascertaining the issue - please could you help with a source? ] is the guy. Thanks. ] 05:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi, I just checked the hard copy death notices in the Canberra Times since 26 September and there's nothing on Mr Gerritsen. I'd suggest approaching User:Wittylama to see if he has any knowledge of this through his position at the NLA. Regards, ] (]) 05:59, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Suspect there is something odd going on - a diff ip has reverted the edit... probably worth a watch... thank you for your help - as for the NLA staffers and the Petherick room staff, nah they are on different planets most times, I might make a discreet enquiry of another old friend from the 60's who knows him... ] 15:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:::No worries. I'll keep an eye on the Canberra Times, but I hope that your friend is OK. Regards, ] (]) 00:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
			Also, I don't think it is less reliable than Shirer's book, since my source is just a translation of the primary source.
	== ] ACR cmt ==
			It is one of my first edits in an article, would love to get any feedback:)
	Hi mate, don't know how I missed , just picked it up now when I had another squiz at the ACR while debating whether to nominate him or ] as my next FAC. That's quite right about the chopper squadron being considered underprepared when deployed to Vietnam, it's just that Headlam's only published connection with the deployment seems to be this planning trip, and commentators always seem to bring up Chief of the Air Staff ]'s name when discussing shortcomings with RAAF helicopter operations and Army cooperation. So I did mention the issue in Murdoch's article but I'm not sure if it's quite so appropriate in the Headlam one without more information on his part (if any) in the problem. WDYT? Cheers, ] (]) 07:47, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Hi Ian, Hawkeye7 seems to have been closing the nomination at the exact time I made that comment, so the diff would have been easily missed. If this is developed for a FAC I'd suggest briefly noting No. 9 Squadron's readiness in this context (and Murdoch's role) given that it's always raised in any discussion of the unit's deployment to South Vietnam, if only to indirectly make the point that it wasn't Headlam's fault. I don't think that I've seen a detailed analysis of who was responsible, and given that it ultimately boiled down to the rushed deployment of the unit such an analysis probably wouldn't be fair on anyone. Regards, ] (]) 08:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
	::Hi mate, I decided to let this one bounce around in the back of my head for a while before I came up with what I think is to provide context without prejudice, but let me know what you think... Cheers, ] (]) 00:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::Hi mate, just a note that the article is at FAC now if you have time to check out the aforementioned addition (and the nom in general)! Cheers, ] (]) 02:35, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
	::::Will do. Regards, ] (]) 02:36, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
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	G'day, in recognition of your successful election as a co-ordinator of the Military History project for the next year, please accept these co-ord stars. I look forward to working with you over the next year. Regards, ] (]) 06:33, 29 September 2013 (UTC)		:Hi, Misplaced Pages has a strong preference for secondary sources over primary sources - please see ]. It would be good to replace Shirer with something more recent and scholarly (his book is pretty outdated) though. Regards, ] (]) 22:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
			::Thank you for your answer! ] ] 23:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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	:Thank you very much, and congratulations on your well-deserved election as the lead coordinator. Regards, ] (]) 07:01, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
			== A barnstar for you! ==
	==Kintrix==
	Hey Nick-D, I'm not sure of the protocol here and I'm also not sure if your post on my talk page was a canned response to a new member, but whatever the circumstance thanks for the sentiment. I've lurked around on Misplaced Pages for years but finally figured I'd try to actually contribute something other than drive-by copy editing. If I have any questions, I'll let you know. V/R, ] (]) 07:53, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
	:Please do - I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. Regards, ] (]) 08:18, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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	Greetings Nick-D. Thank you for your note. Pending a review of the relevant diffs, I have . I agree that there doesn't seem much point "warning someone about something which happened a week ago", but I hadn't noticed the date, as I was more concerned about the content. That said, I'm sure you'll agree that it's not the same to warn someone for "common or garden" disruptive behaviour in an article (as in inserting "hello") as to warn them for insulting behaviour towards another editor. And behaviour such as personal attacks against other users are surely to be censored, whenever they happen. On the other hand, two wrongs clearly don't make a right. I have been insulted by vandals on several occasions and it would never occur to me to respond in kind, let alone to another registered user here at Misplaced Pages.
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	Which brings me to the second part of your note. When I visited the user's talk page to see what was going on, I saw a note you'd left there ("rather than continue your rude posts"), followed by another one in the same terms left by Pdfpdf. So I saw two users' comment referring to rude posts, which together with that "Piss off!" the user had left at Pdfpdf's talk page, seemed to warrant a warning. The original – and clearly provocative – comment left by Pdfpdf had been removed (one of the obvious inconveniences of allowing users to selectively blank their user talk pages, rather than simply archiving the whole thing in logical chronological order). As I'm sure you're aware, the warning I left is the standard Twinkle template for such cases, and if you, as an admin, consider it does not correspond, either in its wording or its intent, to the action an admin would take, maybe it should be modified accordingly.
			I happened upon a new account that has much in common with and . It seems imprudent for someone involved in politics with a history of questionable accounts to return without being formally unblocked, but I do not claim to know the full story. ] (]) 22:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi, I'd suggest reporting this at ]. Regards, ] (]) 01:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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	I shall now leave an apology at the user's talk page, together with a version of the long-winded rationale I have left you here. Regards, --] (]) 00:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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	:No worries - I do agree that hitting back in kind is generally not a good idea, but allowances should be made for new editors given that they're unfamiliar with how to report problems. My comment on Andreas' talk page was actually directed at Pdfpdf's rude remarks there BTW. Regards, ] (]) 03:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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	Salutations Nick. After the ] article tonight ( and ) I went to look at the ] article to make an attempt to expand that section on the SMU article and noticed you were the main contributor to the SASR article (at least in number of edits with ] as second). Anywho, I was wondering if you could/would be up for expanding the SASR section on the SMU stub since I assume your knowledge on them far outweighs mine (which is zilch I might add). Regards, —<font face=Verdana><span style="border:1px solid;border-radius:1.7em 0"><span style="background:#000;border-radius:1.5em 0 0"> -]</span>] &nbsp;</span></font> 04:44, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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	== Little Boy arming plugs ==		== HMS ''Dreadnought'' ==
			Looking likely this'll pass. D'ye think the 120th anniversary of its commissioning would be best, or should we go for when it was laid down (which would put it sooner) <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.9% of all ].</sub></span> 14:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
	Just querying the ] arming plugs. Last I heard of them, they . Where did it say this about the plugs? Was there an inscription in the Museum? ] (]) 12:14, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
			:I'd suggest the 120th anniversary of the commissioning, as this seems more significant. ] (]) 23:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
	:Yes, it's from the label at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center. I actually took a photo of it, and it says that it is not known if the green plug (one of three which would have been used to "safe" the bomb) was from the Hiroshima bomb or was used on a practice mission - the plug was found in the navigator's compartment while ''Enola Gay'' was being restored. I agree with your change to the caption I used given this uncertainty. I'd upload the photo of the label, but I suspect that doing so would get me into copyright trouble! - please ping me an email if you'd like a copy. Regards, ] (]) 10:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
	== After some advise ==		== Request for opinion ==
			Hi Nick-D, sorry to trouble you, I am involved in a content disagreement and was hoping you might be able to comment on ]. There have been some discussions in the edit summaries. Regards ] (]) 06:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
	Hi Nick,
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	Its been quite a while since we worked together on Project Operation Normandy! I am after some advise from a long time editor and admin. Over the last few months I have been working on a ] for the ] article. Having removed the errors, sourcing what was left, expanding it, and copyediting it I posted it today. Granted it is long (around 221,000 bytes, of which ~156,000 is new information (actual text, photos, references, and sources)), but then it is not a simple subject and as can be seen by the world war articles (and doubtless others) the size is not exactly without equal.
			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 220, August 2024 ==
	I have came upon a situation with which I am completely unfamiliar, and hence the request for advise: I have just had my update reverted twice ( and ) by ] - who from the hitcounter tool has made only two edits to the article, which were the revisions - to the clearly inferior and largely un sourced version and told to upload in small chunks so he and others can verify it piecemeal: and The same suggestion () was pretty much made by ] although he did not revert the update and did start to make edits to work out what he believed was fluff and irrelevant to the subject.
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	I didn't expect my update to be without criticism, but I have never been in this situation before: well sourced updates being reverted and being told to update one section at a time so users, who have done little to improve (remove errors, add material etc) the article over the past year, can personally check every sentence when they have let numerous errors remain and reverted errors back in. It is boggling my mind that an update is being blocked like this (I acknowledge it is a major update, although it contains as much as the previous editors work that was verifiable and as seen from the page's edit history, the article has barely been worked on to improve it overall). I did start to look into getting the sandbox peer reviewed, although the peer review template does not work outside of an article's talkpage it would seem and there was nothing on the peer review page about doing reviews like this. Let alone how a peer review of the sandbox would resolve the issue at hand. With that said, what appears to be numerous personal insults from ‎AfadsBad has left me somewhat aggravated and I think I should cool off before replying there further.
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	:Since you made sure to alert me, I assume you want my input. First, glass houses. Second, you reverted my undo of your addition after ''two'' editors had clearly stated disagreement on the talk page, unmistakeable disagreement with your adding a huge article to the article. Third, really, you expect everyone to accept it without questioning any of your additions? Misplaced Pages doesn't work like that either. Fourth, it takes a lot of time to check sources, particularly when you added so much opinion, dense paragraph after paragraph of opinion. Fifth, when you cool down, you can probably think of a way to do it working within the community. Sixth, I give you permission to talk about me anywhere in the future without alerting me, editors will be able to find me. Thanks. --(] (]) 06:15, 4 October 2013 (UTC))
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	::So now I am being stalked.
	::Since I was not filing a report etc, there did not seem any point in inviting someone who is being sarcastic, condescending, and insulting. As to your third point, I did not say anything like that and I have never seen updates been blocked by non-involved editors who have done nothing to improve an article. In regards to your fourth point, I have yet to see you vet the article as it stands (various sources are completely unverifiable for your information or present only one side of an very complicated story) and none of what has been inserted is MY opinion: it is the various discussion of academics on the subject providing the two faces on the treaty i.e. a balanced point of view on the subject. You talk of community, yet you have not worked on the article. You will also find a string of comments from me, across various pages, asking for help working on the draft and asking for help verifying the content of what was in the article. As for your sixth point, I never needed your permission and I never will.
	::Now if you do not mind, I was asking for advise from an experienced admin and editor on how to proceed on a situation I have not come across: sourced material being blocked.] (]) 06:32, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::Stalked? No, you wikilinked my user name, and that sends me an alert. You may not need permission, but I have just provided you with how-to instructions, don't wikilink my user name if you don't want to alert me. --(] (]) 06:53, 4 October 2013 (UTC))
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	I will unwatch now. --(] (]) 06:57, 4 October 2013 (UTC))
	::::EnigmaMcmxc wrote a 30,000+ word new article--a small book. Then he used it to replace the major "Treaty of Versailles" article (of 9000 words) that hundreds of historians have worked on since 2001. He says this is necessary because of unspecified "errors" in the old text. His new additions are of mixed quality--a lot is poor work that has little or nothing to do with the Treaty; he relies on some poor sources (eg Powell). His actions upset me, and I tried to emphasize that Misplaced Pages editing works best by handling one section at a time so multiple editors can look at specific changes and discuss each. I'm here because when he mentioned my name on this page I was automatically notified. ] (]) 10:17, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
			Think this is a good image for ]? Angle's imperfect, but.... <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.9% of all ].</sub></span> 22:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
	:Hi all, This looks like a case where ] applies. EnigmaMcmxc's revision of the article strikes me as being admirably ], but it's also not unreasonable that there are concerns about a rapid redevelopment of what's among Misplaced Pages's . The strategy I've followed on the occasions where I've completely redeveloped an article in user space has been to flag this well in advance on the article's talk page and invite collaboration (which worked well in what became the current ] article, though I started from a very under-developed existing article in that case). I'm not sure whether that happened here. Anyway, I'd encourage editors to review EnigmaMcmxc's proposed version of the article and provide comments and feedback. I'd normally offer to help with this, but I'm in the final month of my masters degree and am rather busy - I'll try to have a look over this weekend though. I hope that this is helpful. ] (]) 10:55, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	::To the accusation that hundreds of editors work has been washed away by a completely new article, I would like to note the following: 1) the hit counter tool shows that out of the hundreds of editors, there has only been around 30 who have made more than a handful of edits 2) As I have said repeatedly, I started off by attempting to provide references for everything that was already in the article. As can be seen by this . I would show more, although I did most of this initial work offline and not on my sandbox. 3) The two latest examples of recent edits being incorporated into the new draft, and not just washed away: and , and . There are numerous other examples, although again I was working offline for the most part so they are not all present as diffs. 4) diffs showing that talkpage conversations were used to modify the draft; , and .
	::In regards to the comment about weak sources, I would like to point out that Powell was used only a minute number of times including highlighting why the peace treaty was signed in Paris – something other sources, during my time editing, have not mentioned. The core of the article comes from Bell, Marks, Lentin, the contributors to Boemeke’s and Martel’s various collection of essays and are largely all professional academics with a sprinkling of other sources to provide additional details etc. I would also argue that Barnett, incorporated into the draft from the current article, has been heavily criticized by the likes of FM Carver for writing books full of myths although that was in a different field of study and not to with Versailles. So I find the ‘poor sources’ comment to be a somewhat weak argument.
	::As for the scare quotes around errors, the current article has numerous fact tags left in it. Some on legitimate information that requires sourcing, but others are clearly errors or one side of the argument and not consensus. I highlight the Sudetenland line of the article, and the various comments I have removed over the last few months.
	::I agree the article is long, although it is a complicated subject. There may be too much background information that needs to be edited out although it comes from it being drummed into me to provide enough background information on a subject. I think the claim that most has little or nothing to do with the treaty is too harsh: background is required, aftermath is required, this treaty impacted numerous countries and sparked numerous other conferences and treaties etc. For example, reparations, a key part of the treaty, went on for 12 years and went through various evolutions and resulted in Ruhr occupation. The story of the treaty is much more than what was signed in 1919, and at any rate the current article at the moment also covers information completely irrelevant to the treaty.
	::I ask the question, if a new draft aiming at improving the article has upset Rjensen so much due to use of “poor sources” and not being vetted line for line, I ask why has the current article been left in the state it is for so long without the same level of emotion applied?
	::I am not claiming infallibility, I just do not understand the emotion. I should note, while not fully advertising the fact, I have mentioned several times on numerous talkpages that I was working on a draft although not as well as I could have. I also agree with Keith’s comments, on the talkpage, a good copyedit is in order. It has never been my strongsuit, and it did not seem fair to drag my offline r/l copyeditor into what amounts to a hobby aimed at improving an article. Thanks for the comments Nick, if you have time I look forward to your feedback and good luck with your work.] (]) 11:58, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::I'd certainly agree that the name calling in relation to this is entirely unproductive (not least as it's clearly a very serious attempt to improve the article), and the claim that "hundreds of historians" have worked on the article is unlikely to be accurate. ] (]) 12:04, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	::::Per your suggestion, I have made an open invite, on the article's talk page, for comments, reviews and editing of the draft.] (]) 12:09, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::::I looked at the counter and saw that over 450 editors made 3 or more edits; that demonstrates a huge amount of interest. As for sources, there is too much reliance by EnigmaMcmxc on WW2 books that devote a bit to the Treaty, and not enough reliance on the major monographs that focus on it, so I added some much better sources to EnigmaMcmxc's sandbox. As for background, we already have that covered at Misplaced Pages--- try ]-- and the text that EnigmaMcmxc called background is not especially helpful in understanding the Treaty. ] (]) 14:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
	::::::That is shifting goalposts.
	::::::In regards to the quip about less than useful sources, out of the original 352 citations in the draft, several used more than once i.e. (212 ^ Weinberg, p. 15), a mere 39 (assuming I have not miscounted, just over 10 per cent) came from these "poor sources" (some were also used more than once). Personally, that does not seem to be "too much reliance ... on WW2 books". At least two of the sources marked as "poor" are already in the current article and were incorporated into the draft. Two others sourced information already in the article that was unsourced. One gives a concise rundown on Fritz Fischer's views in regards to war guilt, one of the major issues surrounding the treaty and was only used since I no longer have access to Fischer's work and could not access it online. Another source was brought up on the talkpage to show a contrary opinion to Sally Marks. I feel confident that quite a few of the others were also used to source information that was already in the article. With respect, it appears you have merely looked at the authors titles and not at how they have been used in the draft or how they are already been used in the article (all of which is further evidence I did not just delete everyone's past work and replace it with my own).
	::::::Finally, you mention the poor quality of the background that has little to do with the treaty. The 14 Points and The Polish uprising are very much related to the whole story of the treaty. Considering so many historians like to compare the ToV with the ToB-L, it seems worth a mention of how Germany imposed their own Versailles on another country around a year earlier. You also suggested the following text (that includes mention of the blockade. Your wording, contradicted according to several historians from sources you have deemed to be reliable, has been declared to be a myth/misinterpretation of what happened.] (]) 05:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
			Also, if it's not too big an ask, any of these images look good? It's a big set. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.9% of all ].</sub></span> 22:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
	== Sparrow Force and related pages ==
			:Hi Adam, I'm not familiar with that aircraft type, but the photo looks good. As for the set of images, as they appear to lack captions (beyond being taken at Mascot Airport - this is now Kingsford Smith Airport, the main airport in Sydney) it might be difficult to use them for much. Regards, ] (]) 08:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
	Hi Nick, I noticed that you are involved with the Misplaced Pages East Timor group.
			::Oh, they have captions, just weirdly placed:
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			::1. Jessie Maude Miller (also known as 'Chubbie' Miller or Mrs Keith Miller?)
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			::4-6. Wackett Warrigal II with collapsed undercarriage, July-August 1930
			::7. Goya Henry and Arthur Lumb in their Junkers A.50 Junior 'Wendouree' VH-UNO, July 1930
			::8-10. 'Miss Australia' VH-UJK DH 60 of R. A. Annabel (with 'Miss Cronulla' VH-UIF of F. K. Bardesley and 'Gay Caballero' VH-UMZ of K. Wedgwood) for round Australia flight, 3-27 April 1930
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			::15-16. Sydney central business district and harbour from the air
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	I've been alerted to all sorts of problems with pages that were created some years ago by the author of a recently published book. Most of these pages relate to ]. It's been a nasty affair with hacked accounts, accounts set up to look like the author, and deleting of material referencing to the book. I suspect some sort of sabotage is involved. I seek your help to bring some sanity to this mess.
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	Secondly, the book in question is the authoritative reference for Sparrow Force. It amalgamates and provides a lot of original material. I also note that many of the references provided by the author linking to other books have been removed.
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	The author has kindly added photographs from his book free of copyright. What is the harm of referencing the source of these photographs by providing links to the website for his book? That isn't promotion - it is linking to a resource not in his book.
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	The author no longer has access to his hacked account and is concerned about setting up a new account. What do you suggest he does? I am not that computer minded so I was wondering whether he could work alongside you to improve the pages?
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	I look forward to your response. --] (]) 00:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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	:I was involved in blocking {{user|Bofors40mm}} and (from memory) one or two of their sockpuppet/spam accounts. If he wants to be unblocked he can request this as he's done previously: I see no evidence that his account was hacked, or any sensible reason why other people would impersonate him for the purposes of spamming his book. Given that there has been a campaign to use Misplaced Pages to advertise this book, the chances of it being used as you suggest are close to nil. Please take the time to read ]. ] (]) 00:19, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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	::Hi ]. I've worked with a group of historians to complete a major rewrite of the Sparrow Force pages. Those who contributed to the recent Western Australian Museum exhibition have been great. Let me know whether anything can be improved. --] (]) 02:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
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	:::Hi ], how could I raise a dispute around the conduct of ]? The McLachlan book is not self-published and it is a credible and reliable source. What is the best course to take? --] (]) 04:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
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	The user name is a dead giveaway as is the edit- I reverted but havent lodged a report. Could you do so please, probably a cu time to cleanout it and some similars that have no doubt slipped pass the radar... ] 07:03, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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	Hi - I'm wondering what your advice is on whether to respond to C'wood 26's endless fiddling with Canadian flags on the ]. Maybe there are better things to occupy my time than this... Cheers ] (]) 06:08, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
	:I'd suggest taking this to ] and asking an uninvolved admin to look into it. It appears to be part of Collingwood's Australian nationalist POV pushing and trolling (see also ] and ]). Regards, ] (]) 09:50, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
	:: Yes - was thinking about ]. May do this when I return from OS. ] (]) 09:58, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::I've just warned him for edit warring. ] (]) 10:04, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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	???
	I'm sorry??
	Did I miss something? I thought we had just moved on from our little squabbles we used to have, and now you post something like this?? You have also ignored my comment on the talk page where I apologised to you. Well I take it back, if you are going to resort to name calling talking behind peoples backs then screw you, and NickM I expected more from you.--] (]) 04:44, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
			Why are you accusing me of edit-warring on the ] page and on the ANI incident board? I did not violate the 3-revert rule and said discussion was opened at the the recommendation of the editor who reverted me. ] (]) 07:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
	I only wish we could get along I dont know why you have to keep this going Nick.--] (]) 04:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
			:Because you are edit warring. ] (]) 07:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
	:: I have taken this to ANI. ] (]) 07:54, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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	Greetings! On the ], you had mentioned adding something about his choices in foreign diplomats. If you don't have time to work on this, I can request the book you mentioned through interlibrary loan; it will just take a few days. Just let me know. Thanks. Also -- any further thoughts on the article? ] (]) 16:46, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
	:I'll follow up on this now. I'm very sorry about the delays - as noted above, I'm in the last few weeks of a masters degree and keep over-estimating how much spare time I'll have :0 ] (]) 08:47, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
	::Oh, no need to apologize -- I hadn't caught the note above, but in any case don't worry about it. I can get the book and add something on that subject. I just appreciate the helpful and detailed input you've given. ] (]) 09:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
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			Hello Nick D, after looking at the talk page I can see a consensus for omitting the GG as CinC I however can not see a consensus for stating they are not a Vice Regal nor a consensus for omitting the oath of allegeince which is outlined by statute. ] (]) 08:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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			:I would also like to add that I see consensus for the “nuance” of the GG role to be discussed in the prose of the article, that is what I did with accurate referencing and sourcing ] (]) 08:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
	i have made considerable updates and attempted to comprehensively reference all claims and remain completely neutral in tone. i have linked many youtube videos that establish the bands legitimacy <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			::Please discuss this on the article's talk page. Thank you, ] (]) 09:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
	:{{tps}}Youtube is not a ] unless it's the band's official channel, in which case it's a ] that cannot establish notability. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 22:05, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
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	::I thought it was important because it showed something like a predetermined plan and that he was afraid of British involvement. It's in Toynbee and I also added it to the timeline of WWII article. Thank you ] (]) 19:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::There's no shortage of more substantive events which demonstrated that. Hitler lied to the western European governments about his plans for years, and tried - with a fair deal of success - to persuade influential conservatives that he intended to operate within international norms and was someone they could "do business" with. ] (]) 20:45, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you today for Project Waler, inrtroduced: "Project Waler was a failed attempt by the Australian Army to replace its ageing M113 armoured personnel carriers with more capable types. The project began in 1980 and never had clear goals. The Army favoured the largest and most expensive designs that were submitted as part of its focus on conventional warfare while the government preferred smaller and more mobile types suited to stopping raids on northern Australia. This led to cost blow outs and the cancellation of the project in 1985. The M113s were eventually upgraded instead, and continue to soldier on despite being obsolete. A new project to replace them is currently underway, but is also proving highly expensive and at risk of cancellation as a result."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on the key contributions of two Australian scientists in World War II Review essay: Nick-D reports on his recent visits to British military sites

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The Bugle Review Essay

Hi. I decided to write up a review essay for The Bulge along the lines of the one you made for the last issue. You can find mine here. Catlemur (talk) 10:30, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! That looks great. Do you know if they've revamped the Athens War Museum? When I visited in 2013 it was looking pretty tired and run down, which was a shame as it had a great collection. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I couldn't find any information about revamps between 2013 and now, but last year 5.5 million euros were allocated for a renovation which will include a partial digitization of the collection. Unfortunately Greek military museums are not up to par with Les Invalides or the Imperial War Museum. While looking for information on the renovation I found that they opened a new museum dedicated to Napoleon Zervas in November 2022 so I will try to visit it by the end of the month and update the review essay accordingly.--Catlemur (talk) 23:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Great, thank you. It's fair to say that the poor Greeks had higher priorities for limited government funds in 2013 than war museums. Nick-D (talk) 08:29, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

My schedule is pretty tight this month and you need to book an appointment to visit Zervas' house, so I wrote up a description from info I found online. So the review essay is finished.--Catlemur (talk) 18:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

No worries - I'll post it over the weekend. Thank you again for this. Nick-D (talk) 23:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@Catlemur: this is now posted at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2023/Review essay. Please feel free to make any further edits. Nick-D (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hello. Article Military, talk page of that article,

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Both users the same content, the same objections on that page, so I suspect that is the same person with a sock account. Also, the same message as this I sent to the NinjaRobotPirate (talk · contribs) as soon as I noticed Nubia86 (talk) 05:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

I'd suggest reporting this at WP:SPI as it's something a Checkuser could easily handle. Nick-D (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hey Nick-D, I noticed you're listed as a mentor for featured article candidates and displayed a specific interest in military history. Last year I spent a good deal of time improving the article about Nestor Makhno, taking it through peer review and then a good article review. It's been stable for the few months since the last review so I'm wondering about submitting it for FAC. As it's my first time, I wanted to check in with you to see if you could give it a look over. -- Grnrchst (talk) 12:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'll try to look over it this weekend, but I'm preparing for an overseas trip so I might not get up to it for a couple of weeks I'm afraid. Nick-D (talk) 09:54, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

No bother! Feel free to take as much time as you need, the article isn't going anywhere. I hope you have a good trip! -- Grnrchst (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

@Nick-D: Hey, I noticed you're back and was wondering if you could take a look? No worries if not, I can go to a different person on the mentor list. -- Grnrchst (talk) 18:31, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Grnrchst: apologies for my slow reply here. Due to other commitments, I don't think that I'll have time to review this article. I was hoping to do so this weekend, but it didn't happen and I don't think that I can propose to be able to do so in the future. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

No worries, I understand. Take care :) -- Grnrchst (talk) 07:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Resignation of Jacinda Ardern

Hi there, thank you for helping this article not be deleted. I wrote the bulk of it myself and I included an argument for its existence on the talk page. Her resignation was an important event that was deserving of a concise article, consistent with those for the ending of other premierships recently (i.e July 2022 United Kingdom government crisis for Boris Johnson. So thanks, I really appreciate it Aubernas (talk) 01:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

No worries. If it's renominated for deletion after being de-linked from the main page, please ping me. It's definitely a viable article. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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Battle of Saint-Malo

Hello,

First, excuse me if my sentences are not well written, I hope you will excuse the fact that I'm french.

I saw that you reverted my modification in the article Battle of Saint-Malo about the battalion who crossed the Rance River, the August 5th, 1944. You tell me that it was written that was the 329th Infantry Regiment as it's written in the US Army official history. Martin Blumenson did an error and you can see here in the 3rd Battalion, 330th Infantry Regiment history at the page 9 the brief describing of the events. https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/330th/various/330th_3rdBn_Our_part_in_the_war.pdf

You can read there the Afer Action Report of the 330th Infantry Regiment for August 1944 with the describing of the events of the August 5th, 1944. https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/330th/AAR/AAR_330_AUG1944.pdf

Here the mention of the crossing of Rance River by members of the 3rd Battalion, 330th Infantry Regiment in the record of the 83rd Reconnaissance Troop (page 1 at the paragraph 10) https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/83rdRCNTrp/AAR/AAR_83rd_Rcn_Trp_AUG1944.pdf

If you read the records of the 329th Infantry Regiment you will never see any mention of this event because they were involved in the fight at Chateauneuf d'Ille-et-Vilaine that day (https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/329th/AAR/AAR_329_AUG1944.pdf)

Hoping it give you a new point of view. I saw often the error in several books because they were based on the Martin Blumenson book but the original sources from the 83rd Infantry Division records are very sure about this small event of the war. HistoAmateur35 (talk) 14:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Misplaced Pages operates off secondary not primary sources so I won't be making that change. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Book review

Just wanted to let you know I've tweaked some things, after having a short emailed correspondence with the author, who passed the factual items on to his editor to hopefully get fixed in the paperback edition. Hog Farm _Talk 14:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know Nick-D (talk) 00:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

@Hog Farm and Ian Rose: I dumbly added this to the February edition after it was sent out! In my defence, I was still suffering from jet lag, fatigue and culture shock after a quick trip to India for work. I've removed it, and posted in in the March edition. Sorry for any and all confusion caused! Nick-D (talk) 10:16, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Heh, I did notice that but I thought there was method in the madness (like maybe HF wanted to see it published ASAP) so I'm now wiser... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Lead to WWII Article

Hello Nick-D

I admire your work on military and other articles and don't want to get off on the wrong foot with you. However, I think the word "led" is way out of place in the description of principal Allies in WWII. It imports a notion of leadership or precedence. Taking the war as a whole from Sep 1939 to August 1945 I would argue that the principal allies were UK, France, US, Soviets, China. You can order them alphabetically or in the order in which they took up arms against the Axis powers. What is the basis for the wording which currently exists?

Also, the article states, "It is generally considered that in Europe World War II started on 1 September 1939." Only two sources are given for this and they are woefully inadequate. I have at least a dozen books on my shelf which date the outbreak to 3 September when France and the UK declared war on Germany. Without these declarations there would have been no general European war in 1939. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 02:35, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Let's limit this conversation to the article's talk page to prevent fragmentation and confusion. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you, that's very kind Nick-D (talk) 06:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Let your opinion be stated on the Rhodesia vectors deletion request

https://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Deletion_requests/Rhodesia_vectors_after_1973 I linked to it here so that you can easily find it and state your opinion. I will link to our discussion we had about three months ago. Thank you. Sprucecopse (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you today for Bougainville counterattack, introduced (in 2018): "This article covers what must be one of the worst military blunders of World War II. In March 1944 around 15,000 Japanese troops attempted to attack fortified positions on the island of Bougainville which were held by 62,000 Americans who knew that they were coming. While the Japanese fought bravely, the offensive ended in total failure, with the veteran US Army units stopping the attack in a matter of days."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Nick-D (talk) 09:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Operation Title

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Hello, just wanted to let you know that I have re-uploaded the files as non-free files to Misplaced Pages with a smaller resolution. Sprucecopse (talk) 16:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

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Steyr AUG article

G'day Nick-D, I would appreciate your comments in regards to verifiability in a discussion on Talk:Steyr AUG. There is a related discussion at WP:ANI Disruptive editing by Guns & Glory. Regards, Melbguy05 (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Operation Title

On 8 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Operation Title, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an attempted British-Norwegian attack on the German battleship Tirpitz was abandoned after two Chariot manned torpedoes were lost due to bad weather? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Title. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Operation Title), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

-- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on the Western Allied invasion of Germany Op-ed: Hawkeye7's tips for writing articles on military logistics

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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 and Nick-D review three recent works

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Air Board PR

Hi Nick, did you want to check my last replies at the PR? Happy to look at tweaking text further but just let me know your thoughts on the latest if you have time... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:10, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

@Ian Rose: Sorry for the slow reply here. Those changes look good to me. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Harassment

hi, I apologize if you saw any harassment towards that editor. My intention was simply to leave my message in an ongoing discussion about my edits. The reasoning I was "reinstating these messages" is because they are removed with the excuse of me being a sockpuppet, which I'm not. By the way I won't put them back if it's not allowed. Have a nice day--All weekend on the weeknd (talk) All weekend on the weeknd (talk) 09:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Good Nick-D (talk) 10:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D on alleged Australian war crimes and Hawkeye7 on the 1944–45 Philippines campaign and the Australian Signals Directorate

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Nick-D. Thank you for your work on Estonian Division. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, I had the following comments:

Hey there! Hope you're having a great day. Thank you for contributing to Misplaced Pages with your article. I'm happy to inform you that your article has adhered to Misplaced Pages's policies, so I've marked it as reviewed. Have a fantastic day for you and your family!

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 09:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

@SunDawn: thank you! Nick-D (talk) 09:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/News/August 2023/Op-ed

Little thing I wrote up; hope you like it. Might throw it into the Signpost proper if they want it. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.5% of all FPs.} 17:38, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks Adam, that looks excellent Nick-D (talk) 10:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Punched it up a mite. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.5% of all FPs.} 00:19, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Okay. I've roughed in all the articles that need covered in the featured content section, I don't think I'm up to writing summaries, though, not with all the things I'm going to need to do regarding my dad's death this week. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.5% of all FPs.} 19:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

How did the Op-ed just gain three additional sections? I need to stop. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.5% of all FPs.} 03:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Ruth Handler

Hey, just noting a little clarification as to which version(s) you support is needed here. Sorry, it's mostly my fault. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.5% of all FPs.} 02:06, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Would you like to be my FAC mentor?

Hello Nick-D,

Hoe all is well. I am thinking about promoting Luo Wenzao (currently GA) to FA status. Luo is the first Chinese Catholic bishop. As this would be my very first FAC, I am looking for an FAC mentor, especially someone who I have never interacted with on Misplaced Pages. Would you like to be my FAC mentor?

Cheers, --TheLonelyPather (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'd be very happy to look over this article over the coming weekend, though with the proviso that it's a topic I know nothing about! It looks interesting and already developed to a high standard though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! No worries, "no deadline", as they say. --TheLonelyPather (talk) 11:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

:(( TheLonelyPather (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, but I've been busy (and exhausted) from my work and some travel. I'd suggest looking for a mentor with better knowledge of this topic. Nick-D (talk) 03:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know and no problem with that. Many thanks for your attention to this as well!!! TheLonelyPather (talk) 13:31, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Rhodesia Information Centre

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 4 September 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/September 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured article/September 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Misplaced Pages:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 17:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Recent external reviews Op-ed: Adam Cuerden on finding and using images

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Good article reassessment for History of the Royal Australian Navy

History of the Royal Australian Navy has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:24, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

User talk:Penelopechicken123

You sure about this one? Their contributions seem sometimes clumsy but other than this one, they seem at worst poorly sourced or jejune sometimes. For example, their two edits prior to that WWII one consisted of adding a name to a list, then realizing it was already on the list and removing it. I don't see any bad faith edits. Perhaps I am missing something? I didn't look very far back. --jpgordon 18:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes I am. They are stating on their talk page now that their account may have been compromised, so I'm extending the block to indefinite. Nick-D (talk) 22:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

OK, but I'd still like to know where the vandalism and bad faith edits are. --jpgordon 04:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Attempt to start a nonsense article, then warnings for nonconstructive editing, then various edits reverted and then vandalising a high profile article. A 31 hour block seemed appropriate for this pattern of unhelpful behaviour. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 04:52, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

rhodesia information centre

hello, Nick-D! i had a question regarding this article and the associated blurb. is this article specifically about the office in sydney, or more generally about the rhodesian de facto diplomatic mission in australia? the article body seems to suggest that the rhodesian information centre in sydney replaced the rhodesian information service in melbourne in 1967, so if the article is specifically about the office in sydney, i am wondering if it would be more accurate for the blurb and article lead to both state that the office began representing rhodesia in 1967 rather than 1966. (however, i admittedly cannot tell from the article whether the sydney office actually began operating earlier, or if it was actually originally the rhodesian information service's sydney branch, so it seems possible that the office in sydney actually did begin representing rhodesia in 1966.)

considering the various names for the centre listed in the article lead, i had initially thought that maybe the name of the rhodesian information service in melbourne was simply considered an alternative name for the subject of the article. however, i eventually noticed that "Rhodesian Information Service" (as used in melbourne, with an 'n' in "Rhodesian") was different from "Rhodesia Information Service" (as used in the article lead, without an 'n' in "Rhodesia"), so i admittedly am uncertain about whether the article intended to consider the centre in melbourne part of the featured subject. dying (talk) 02:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, it was essentially the same thing, so 1966 is the best start date. As Jordan notes, the Rhodesian Information Service in Melbourne was replaced by the Rhodesia Information Centre; there does not appear to have been any break between the RIS closing and the RIC starting. The RIC has slightly different names in different sources, which causes further confusion! I've tweaked the lead of the article to help clarify this for readers, but I'd suggest that it's not needed for the TFA blurb. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:15, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

yeah, i tried following the sources to attempt to make sense out of it, and only ended up being more confused! anyway, your edits looks good. thanks, Nick-D. dying (talk) 03:33, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you today for the article, introduced: "The Rhodesia Information Centre was the unofficial, and illegal, embassy the Rhodesian government maintained in Australia from 1966 to 1980. As the Australian government did not recognise Rhodesia's independence it had almost no contact with Australian officials. Instead, it spread propaganda trying to win Australians over to the white minority regime in Rhodesia and helped businesses evade the trade sanctions against the country. The Rhodesian Information Centre survived multiple attempts by the Australian government to close it, including one which led to a High Court case in 1973 and another which caused a backbench revolt in 1977, and was finally shut down by the Zimbabwean government in 1980. As a result, while this is a slightly obscure topic, the article covers a lively period in Australian foreign relations and provides insights into Australian attitudes towards white minority rule in Africa during this period."! --

Thank you Nick-D (talk) 07:45, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Recent external reviews Op-ed: Hawkeye7 on the Oppenheimer biopic

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POV/disinformation on Russian invasion of Ukraine articles

I have received a request for assistance regarding closer watching of some articles where POV editing may be an issue. Who are the Australian military editors in good standing right now who might be interested in adding a few more things to their watchlists, and getting involved? Buckshot06 (talk) 00:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

@Buckshot06: apologies, I seem to have missed this. I'd suggest posting at WT:MILHIST and/or other relevant noticeboards to ask that other editors keep an eye on those articles. Nick-D (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Emu War edits

Hey, I made an edit on the emu war wikipedia page and you reverted it and left a comment on my talk saying its vandalism, can you please explain how it was vandalism? I believe it was perfectly constructive. ManU9827 (talk) 11:12, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

It was obvious vandalism, and you will be blocked if you repeat it. This obviously was not a war. Nick-D (talk) 21:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

why does it say Emu War all over the page then? ManU9827 (talk) 06:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Because it's the common name of the event - please see WP:COMMONNAME. Nick-D (talk) 07:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi there! Edit assistance, if possible?

I'm a newish editor and was wondering if you'd like to collab on a concentrated effort to work on/clean up the Eritrean Army page. I saw that you made some pretty constructive edits on it, in spite of some warring by a now blocked editor, so asking you for help seemed like a logical choice.

It just reads kind of wrong. I can't place my finger on it, but maybe you can. Squeeyote (talk) 11:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I'm afraid that as I'm going to be travelling for the next month I won't be able to help here. I'd suggest using the Institute of Strategic Studies The Military Balance for the basic facts on the size, structure and composition of the army, as it's a well regarded source. My understanding is that the broader literature on the army is fairly large, and the article should cover its conscription policies (conscripts are required to serve for an indefinite period) and the consequences this has had on the country. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

No worries, I appreciate the advice. Safe travels! Squeeyote (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Promotion of Foreign volunteers in the Rhodesian Security Forces

Congratulations, Nick-D! The article you nominated, Foreign volunteers in the Rhodesian Security Forces, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Misplaced Pages. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 12:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Nick-D congratulations on this FA! I've been watching it with interest because of sticky terminology issues in an article I've been working on, trying to clean up, that has been subjected to years of disruptive editing and poor sourcing. At one point, it referred to all the exiled military and volunteers as mercenaries, which I think I've now corrected, but there are still terminology concerns. If you are now over the hump with your last FAC and have any free time, a set of experienced MilHist eyes from our now-expert on how to label these events and individuals at Operation Gideon (2020) would be most welcome! A WP:RM is planned for a week or two: see Talk:Operation Gideon (2020)#Timeline and Talk:Operation Gideon (2020)#Initial brainstorming to prep for writing Requested move proposal. Thanks for any help you can give should you have time! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy. I'm travelling for the next month, so I don't think that I'll be able to help with that article. I used the term 'volunteers' in the article on Rhodesia as it's what many of the sources used, and was more neutral than 'mercenaries' (especially given WP:BLP issues as many of the people who fought for Rhodesia, in potential violation of their home country's laws, will still be alive). The article notes how the term 'mercenary' has been used and goes into some detail on who the volunteers were and what motivated them, which might be helpful for the Operation Gideon article. I agree that it's best to avoid simplistic labels for issues like this. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Nick-D; yes, I noted those bits in your article and (think/hope) I employed same at the Gideon article. The two Americans were hired by Silvercorp (security firm), and sources do refer to them as mercenaries, but I removed mention as mercenaries of other exiled Venezuelan military who a) were not foreign, b) were not paid, c) and were not generally described by sources as mercenaries either. And on the BLP issues relative to US laws, I found this article. Your Rhodesian article was most interesting and helpful; I hope you have safe and enjoyable travels, and if you have time to glance at the article when you're back, it could use MilHist eyes. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:16, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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well done

A concerning thing here is that despite RFA being a dramatically more civil place than it was a few years ago, and most nominations very easily pass, a lot of editors are now unwilling to nominate to become an admin. It would be good to get back to something resembling the old mindset that being an admin isn't a big deal

however looking at some of the combatative and adverserial queues of questions over time, I cannot imagine anyone wanting to live through the onslaught, whether they be tough or not... JarrahTree 06:36, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Well prepared candidates seem to have a very easy parth to the admin tools these days, as the gang of editors who used to use RfA to bully other editors have gone away, in part because some of the ringleaders have been banned or had other types of sanctions applied. Lots of recent RfAs have received over 200 support votes with no or essentially no critical comments. It would be good to turn the temperature down further though, including through a better process or at least a more mature discussion to reinstate the tools for former admins who lost them due to a misjudgement many years ago (in some cases ArbCom also misjudging things). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:42, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on an American general and the first female astronauts, Nick-D on Roman fortifications

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	By the authority vested in me by myself I present you with this award in recognition of one or more well argued opposes at FAC. I may or or may not agree with your reasoning and/or your oppose, but I take a Voltarian attitude towards your right to state it. Thank you, such stands help to make Misplaced Pages stronger. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for this Nick-D (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/World War II

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Happy First Edit Day

Happy First Edit Day, Nick-D, from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Ezra Cricket (talk) 02:37, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day! Hi Nick-D! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 14:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at English Civil War logistics and Peacemaker67 at Austro-Hungarian torpedo boats Op-ed: Hawkeye7 on how WP:SIZE matters

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Politicians death from disease

You are right in saying most people die from disease. This is why I think we should make all death by disease categories that are not for a specific disease only container categories. I also really think we should just plain delete the cancer deaths tree. I do not think that is defining yo the subjects.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:16, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

I tend to agree. These categories only seem useful when the cause of death is a notable aspect of the person's life. Nick-D (talk) 07:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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Bugle

I think I found all the FAs for this month's Bugle. And the FPs, which grow increasingly less connected to MILHIST left to right (but I think all still count). Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.6% of all FPs.} 23:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Adam. Nick-D (talk) 10:34, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D looks at the Russian invasion of Ukraine Op-ed: Nick-D on writing Rhodesian military articles

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Review before FAC of Mars Society

A long time ago, you said the Mars Society article is not up to FAC standards yet. I've made several attempts to polish the prose and ensure text-source integrity, but, unfortunately, the article is still pretty short as it is hard to find additional sources on the topic. What do you think about the article now? (link to article) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 13:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Possible sock puppet at British Empire

Nick,

Could I beg 5 minutes of your time, could you have a look at British Empire and Talk:British Empire.

Waddie96 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

This user tried to sneak the description "superpower" into the lede of British Empire with a misleading edit summary https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=British_Empire&diff=1189352775&oldid=1189142714],. I asked them about it, their reply seems a bit off to me. I was wondering if this might be HarveyCarter? WCM_email 14:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, The general editing pattern looks different. You might want to start a sockpuppet report to ask that a checkuser look into this if there's a pattern of specific edits though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Wow. @Nick-D: I’ve been editing on WP for a few years, and never been accused of sock puppetry.

My understanding of WP policy thus far is that these type of accusations are usually made via official channels and not on a specific administrator’s talk page. Like on Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations per WP:HSOCK.

Please clarify this as I feel targeted. waddie96 ★ (talk) 21:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Wee Curry Monster I consider this as uncivil. And I kindly request yoi retract your statements both here and the Talk:British Empire pages that insist I ‘sneak’ and made a ‘misleading edit’. By striking it through or by just apologising. Please let’s not be like this to editors who have never even had an interaction before. waddie96 ★ (talk) 21:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

It's totally normal for editors to directly ask admins to directly look into the potential re-occurrence of sockmasters they have experience with, as assessments are often made on the basis of editing patterns. I'm one of a bunch of admins who have been involved with chasing HarveyCarter socks - they are one of the most prolific sockmasters in subject areas I edit. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

@Wee Curry Monster I kindly ask you to apologise, or retract your uncivil statements. waddie96 ★ (talk) 21:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

@Wee Curry Monster Your previous incivility towards me, now inability to reflect on your actions, and continued lack of the impact this has on editors such as myself and the feeling of being targeted imo. I’ve noted on your previous contributions this is common place in your edits, and advise you to consider your assumptions and mindset. waddie96 ★ (talk) 15:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I don't see what repeatedly making these kinds of attacks is achieving, especially on my talk page - you are claiming that WCM was uncivil to you, yet this behaviour of yours is clearly unhelpful and - to be blunt - aggressive and rude. If you really think that this is a serious user conduct problem (which it is not IMO), take it to WP:ANI. If not, move on. Nick-D (talk) 21:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

You miss this because of your bias. Bias is something which an admin should not have. Your behaviour should be exemplary. Your understanding and mediation should be sound. Please take a step back. waddie96 ★ (talk) 20:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Voting for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023 is now open!

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Congratulations from the Military History Project

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Australian frontier wars

Errantios also assumed ownership of the article just by brushing off my edit as "not an improvement". Are you also implying that an user simply not being pleased by an edit is a reason for undoing said edit? DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

You changed referenced material without providing a new reference that supports it. Nick-D (talk) 04:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Errantios did not provide any references to support his reasons for undoing the edit, either. DaRealPrinceZuko 04:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

The existing material is referenced. Please see WP:V. Nick-D (talk) 04:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

The information provided in the edit is virtually the same, albeit reworded and restyled. Also, sources and references were not included in the edits. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 04:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Please do read up on how referencing in Misplaced Pages works. WP:V and WP:RS are good starting points. Nick-D (talk) 04:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

I did read them. I'm just saying the question did not involve sources, but rather a section being simply reworded and restyled. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Also, just to let you know, both edits had the same source. DaRealPrinceZuko (talk) 02:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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Falintil-FDTL

Dear Nick,

I've made some changes to the Falintil-FDTL organisation page. The short-lived force of the mid-1970s focused on company-level units; I have reason to believe that since 2006 the current force has trended back towards that direction. We can correspond, should you wish, regarding how frequently updated the assessments of the IISS can be, and their choice of focus on particular world regions, but see here for this comment. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, do you have sources for this? Not much has been published on the F-FDTL in recent years, so it's hard to track what's going on with the force. The very modest and sensible-looking new Air Component is a sign that the government is setting realistic goals for the force's structure rather than the more ambitious/grandiose previous structures and plans. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:17, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Might be better to talk by e-mail. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 10:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

George Roper (ship)

Could you possibly lend a hand with getting this article to DYK? I'm thinking a hook along the lines of "...that the ship George Roper sank before it even had a chance to finish its first voyage?" I've started it here. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.7% of all FPs.} 21:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: I tend to favour simple DYK hooks - how about something like: ... that the ship George Roper ran aground (pictured) and was wrecked at the end of its first voyage from Liverpool to Australia? Nick-D (talk) 09:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Not bad. I thought it was getting a little too detailed Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.7% of all FPs.} 11:52, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Bugle

Hi, what's your preferred procedure for articles in The Bugle? I might like to provide a book review occasionally, but don't want to step on your toes. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, No stepping on toes would be involved - Ian Rose and I always really welcome contributions. For book reviews you can either draft them in your user space, or post them directly in the next edition of the Bugle via its newsroom. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

As an aside, I think I've finished the featured content page, unless something passes A-class, FA, or FL in the next couple days (there's nothing MILHIST left in the FP queue that'll pass before 2 February, except the basically 100% guaranteed to pass Pedro II photo.) Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.8% of all FPs.} 14:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Adam Nick-D (talk) 07:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024

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Western Australian emergency of March 1944

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The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024

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3 Kenya Rifles

Previous versions of this page had citations to a Globalsecurity.org page, which was an unambiguous copyright violation from the Kenya Yearbook 2010, whose details I have just inserted. Are you in a position to revdel everything except the last version? Kind regards, Buckshot06 (talk) 01:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I've just done that. Thanks for fixing this article! Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Same request now for 7 Kenya Rifles, if you wouldn't mind. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I've just revdeled those edits. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Kenya Army Infantry has the same issues, but I will think a bit further on it, potentially making further edits, before I work out exactly what I ask you to do. Buckshot06 (talk) 17:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Operation Title

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story · music · places

Congratulations, and thank you today for Western Australian emergency of March 1944, introduced (in 2018): "This article covers a little-remembered, but significant, incident during World War II. In March 1944 the Australian and US military leadership in the South West Pacific became concerned that a powerful Japanese naval force was headed for the important Western Australian port of Fremantle. In response, reinforcements were rushed to the area, several American and Dutch submarines put to sea and the city's air and coastal defences were placed on alert. The tension increased over several days, and on 10 March air raid sirens were sounded when what appeared to be an enemy aircraft was detected. However, it all soon proved to a false alarm. The only Japanese force at sea was a small group of warships which conducted an unsuccessful raid against Allied shipping in the Indian Ocean. Overall, the article provides an interesting insight into the strategic situation in early 1944, an example of the limitations of intelligence information, and a reminder that the war was not yet won." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

... and today forthe other, Operation Title, "a valiant but failed Allied attack on the German battleship Tirpitz during October 1942. The attack plan was like something out of a thriller, and partially formed the basis of a postwar movie. It involved a small Norwegian ship smuggling two British manned torpedoes through heavily defended waters. While the manned torpedo crews were superbly trained and likely to have crippled Tirpitz, the operation failed at the last moment when shoddy workmanship caused both of the craft to be lost when they separated from the bottom of the trawler during a storm. The Allied personnel attempted to escape overland to Sweden, with one of the British seamen being captured and murdered by the Germans and the others making it across the border."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

A-class promotions in February

Am I correct in thinking their weren't any, or is the bot acting up? If there weren't any, I just need to summarise three FAs and we're ready to go. Kind of pleased to see I'm not over-dominating fetured pictures this month.

As for April's Bugle, d'ye think Edward S. Curtis and the Molly McGuires count as MILHIST? They're on the margins. Chief Joseph is pretty much definitely passing, so I know we'll have at least one MILHIST FP, probably more, March is quite young. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.8% of all FPs.} 20:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Adam, I don't think that Curtis or McGuires are in scope as there isn't a strong military-related aspect to their lives. Yes, unfortunately no new A-class articles were promoted in February. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Aye, suppose the Coal Wars are more of a metaphor. Well, will sort things out for the three FAs. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.8% of all FPs.} 16:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024

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Take Ichi convoy scheduled for TFA

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Thank you today for the article, introduced: "This article covers a Japanese convoy operation of World War II whose failure had significant results for the New Guinea campaign."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Operation Title scheduled for TFA

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Battle of Tinian

Since you reviewed Battle of Saipan at A-class, I was wondering if you could do the same for Battle of Tinian at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Tinian Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I'd be very happy to. Nick-D (talk) 05:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

request for help

Hello, I am a new member of the Military history wikiproject, and I see you are a experienced editor. Although I appreciate that you will be busy, it would be kind of you to tell me how to request an article for re-assessment, as it currently does not make any sense to me! Thanks Sgtnugg

Hi, and welcome to the project! If you'd like the article to be assessed against the B-class criteria you can request this at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Requests. Please note that you can do the assessment yourself, though it's encouraged to seek a second opinion if you've contributed significantly to the article. If you're seeking an A-class review, they're handled via Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review. Good Article reviews are handled centrally via WP:GAN rather than through individual wikiprojects. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 00:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024

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Responsibility for the Holocaust

Hi Nick-D. Sir, would you be so kind (when and if you have time) to add a protection template to the Responsibility for the Holocaust page? It seems a very stubborn unregistered user with a short history of edit-warring keeps messing up very well-written syntax, which is forcing me to manually clean up behind them. Danke and mach's gut. Obenritter (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, as there have been no edits in the last 48 hours or so, there aren't any grounds at present to protect the article. I'd suggest requesting this at WP:RFPP in the future for a quicker response. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha...thanks anyway.--Obenritter (talk) 19:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024

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History of Christianity

I am here based on your interest in history to ask (beg?) for you to do a look over of the High and Late Middle Ages sections of this page with an eye toward FA. If you can't, no hard feelings. But please help if you can! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm afraid that I don't know enough about this topic to be able to offer useful comments. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Australian Defence Force - Prime Minister

Hello @Nick-D: please see below.

"Who can exercise the power ? 2.26As outlined above, the constitutional prerogative power to go to war is vested in the Governor-General by virtue of s 61. While the Governor-General has the formal power to make decisions regarding armed conflict and exercise control of the armed forces, by convention the Executive branch of government – that is, the Prime Minister and the Cabinet – will ultimately decide whether to go to war or conduct warlike operations."

Further, the GG (as CiC) acts on advice given by the Prime Minister, which in the case of the employment of the armed forces through the national security committee, which is also chaired by the Prime Minister. The NSC may skip the GG entirely and go straight to the CDF. "The process, of which I appreciate many committee members are aware—decisions on the employment (sic) of the ADF, in my experience, have all been taken through the National Security Committee of cabinet"

As head of the executive the branch of government, he and the cabinet have the power to exercise control of the armed forces. --regards, KarmaKangaroo (talk) 14:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but that's quite different to what you added to the article. It is discussing who has authority to send Australia to war, not exercise control over the ADF and notes the role of Cabinet as well as the PM (the PM's authority derives in a lot of ways from their role as the chair of Cabinet). As the scandal relating to Scott Morrison's multiple ministries illustrated, the prime minister's authority is a long way from being absolute in the Australian system of government, as ministers are generally designated the ultimate decision makers under legislation. Nick-D (talk) 23:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

Hello @Nick-D, thank you for leaving a comment on the FA review for Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. I was wondering if you would be interested in supporting the nomination? Llewee (talk) 13:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'll look in on this nomination on the weekend with an eye to posting a full(er) review. Thanks for the note. Nick-D (talk) 11:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	For your work on WP:MILHIST articles. 48JCL (talk) 20:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Nick-D (talk) 22:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Narwhal

Hi Nick-D, hope you're doing well. I would really appreciate a review of this article in preparation for FAC over here. Thanks, Wolverine XI 05:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, This isn't a topic I know anything about to be honest, but I'll try to leave some comments in the PR over the next few days. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Wolverine XI 16:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

About my revision in WW2

About my revision in World War 2.

Since no more than one source is needed, in my opinion it is better to leave my source since it is easier to verify due to my book being in open access with a link directly heading to the needed page.

Also, I don't think it is less reliable than Shirer's book, since my source is just a translation of the primary source.

It is one of my first edits in an article, would love to get any feedback:)

Tankkonstanta😎 11:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Misplaced Pages has a strong preference for secondary sources over primary sources - please see WP:PRIMARY. It would be good to replace Shirer with something more recent and scholarly (his book is pretty outdated) though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer! User:Tankkonstanta Tankkonstanta😎 23:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

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Editor unblocked or not?

I happened upon a new account that has much in common with and . It seems imprudent for someone involved in politics with a history of questionable accounts to return without being formally unblocked, but I do not claim to know the full story. Back2Goth (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'd suggest reporting this at WP:SPI. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024

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HMS Dreadnought

Looking likely this'll pass. D'ye think the 120th anniversary of its commissioning would be best, or should we go for when it was laid down (which would put it sooner) Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.9% of all FPs.} 14:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I'd suggest the 120th anniversary of the commissioning, as this seems more significant. Nick-D (talk) 23:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Request for opinion

Hi Nick-D, sorry to trouble you, I am involved in a content disagreement and was hoping you might be able to comment on Talk:New South Wales Police Force#Rogerson and McNamara 2014 crimes relevance. There have been some discussions in the edit summaries. Regards Melbguy05 (talk) 06:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 220, August 2024

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Think this is a good image for Bristol Tourer? Angle's imperfect, but.... Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.9% of all FPs.} 22:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Also, if it's not too big an ask, any of these images look good? It's a big set. Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.9% of all FPs.} 22:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Adam, I'm not familiar with that aircraft type, but the photo looks good. As for the set of images, as they appear to lack captions (beyond being taken at Mascot Airport - this is now Kingsford Smith Airport, the main airport in Sydney) it might be difficult to use them for much. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh, they have captions, just weirdly placed:

Contents

1. Jessie Maude Miller (also known as 'Chubbie' Miller or Mrs Keith Miller?)

2. Unidentified woman aviator with two men

3. Anderson and Hitchcock's Bristol Tourer G-AUDJ 'The Old Pioneer' which they flew from England to Australia, September 1928

4-6. Wackett Warrigal II with collapsed undercarriage, July-August 1930

7. Goya Henry and Arthur Lumb in their Junkers A.50 Junior 'Wendouree' VH-UNO, July 1930

8-10. 'Miss Australia' VH-UJK DH 60 of R. A. Annabel (with 'Miss Cronulla' VH-UIF of F. K. Bardesley and 'Gay Caballero' VH-UMZ of K. Wedgwood) for round Australia flight, 3-27 April 1930

11-12. Air Force Vickers-Supermarine Seagull seaplane at Rose Bay (?)

13-14. Office of the Australian Aero Club (New South Wales Section) with Moths 'Geoffrey Hughes' G-AUAJ, 'Oswald Watt' G-AUFV (also G-AUAK, G-AUGK, G-AUAH, G-AUFV), Mascot, approximately 1928

15-16. Sydney central business district and harbour from the air

17. Group of five unidentified male aviators (?

)

18-19. Aviators Phyllis Arnott, Freda Deaton and Bobbie Terry Adam Cuerden _{Has about 8.9% of all FPs.} 11:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 221, September 2024

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Promotion of British nuclear weapons and the Falklands War

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World War II Talk Page

Why are you accusing me of edit-warring on the World War II page and on the ANI incident board? I did not violate the 3-revert rule and said discussion was opened at the the recommendation of the editor who reverted me. Emiya1980 (talk) 07:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Because you are edit warring. Nick-D (talk) 07:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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ADF Head of State

Hello Nick D, after looking at the talk page I can see a consensus for omitting the GG as CinC I however can not see a consensus for stating they are not a Vice Regal nor a consensus for omitting the oath of allegeince which is outlined by statute. Knowledgework69 (talk) 08:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

I would also like to add that I see consensus for the “nuance” of the GG role to be discussed in the prose of the article, that is what I did with accurate referencing and sourcing Knowledgework69 (talk) 08:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the article's talk page. Thank you, Nick-D (talk) 09:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 222, October 2024

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on US Army divisions in the Pacific War, Nick-D on the First Indochina War

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DYK for HMNZS Manawanui (2019)

On 4 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article HMNZS Manawanui (2019), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in October 2024 Manawanui became the first Royal New Zealand Navy vessel to be lost in peacetime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/HMNZS Manawanui (2019). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, HMNZS Manawanui (2019)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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The Bugle: Issue 223, November 2024

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at battles of Operation Veritable in 1945

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Mentoring for FAC

Hi, I'm contacting you because I noticed your username is listed at WP:FAM and I am interested in nominating a FAC but have never done so in the past. I'm contacting several people listed as FA mentors so if you are busy that is okay. The article is Neurocysticercosis, a parasitic brain disease. I have started a peer review for the article which can be found at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Neurocysticercosis/archive1. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration! IntentionallyDense 21:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'd be pleased to leave comments in the peer review. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:19, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! IntentionallyDense 09:20, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

No worries. I've posted some comments which I hope are helpful. Nick-D (talk) 10:19, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Lee Kuan Yew

Hi, it seems like Oxking986 has circumvented his article block here by using an IP. 115.23.114.25 (talk) 02:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know Nick-D (talk) 07:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 224, December 2024

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D on the Franco-Prussian War Op-ed: Nick-D visits the Swiss Air Force Museum

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Nick-D. Thank you for your work on 8th Operational Support Unit. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 15:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@SunDawn: Thanks for reviewing the article. I know you meant this message kindly, but I'm an atheist, so I definitely won't be having a blessed day. I would very politely suggest that you not subject strangers to this kind of religious language unless they explicitly identify as Christian or similar. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)