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| I didn't mean to include the UN in the list, I was using another language's infobox as a base and I didn't notice that. I know that Macedonian is an official minority language in ] (and possibly elsewhere), though I don't know of any English language sources. <sarcasm>Don't worry, I'm not the flaming type like most of those evil history-stealing Skopjians</sarcasm>. --] (]) 12:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| That's a tricky one. They publish the official grammars and dictionaries which in itself is a form of regulation ('']''). It's your call. If you disagree with it being in the article, I won't object if you remove it. --] (]) 14:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| No, no problem with that. I still think that Albania should have {{Fact}}, cause the article given as source is like flame... ] | |||
| Read it here: | |||
| http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Macedonians+in+Greece+and+Albania:+A+comparative+study+of+recent+developments&hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&um=1&ie=UTF-8&oi=scholart | |||
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| I think i'm like a trouble for people editing this article... :P But, everyone should do the same for Greek ones, too... ] (]) 14:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for your careful and considered reply. I have found a source that states that it does have a form of official recognition in Albania, now if you can find a source that refutes this source then by all means present it. I'm not particularly interested in what the source says about Greece as there are many better articles on the subject. I can give you a short bibliography if you so desire. Best regards, - ] ] 15:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :'' Francis Tyers, as to whether the parts you trimmed where relevant or not: I could make a .tk site called greeksuperiority.tk and state some bad things or stuff that is not real about "Macedonia", then add some trimmed quotes saying that "Macedonia" never existed and then have some friends from the local university add their names. That is to say, that sources are to be judged as a whole. A source that flames about Greece, and uses "Macedonija" as one of its own sources is not a very good one to use. So, please either change the infobox or the source. Or, let me do it, and tell me if you agree with the way i'll do it.'' | |||
| ::You would then be welcome to attempt to get this published in a third-party peer-reviewed academic journal where-upon it would qualify for inclusion in Misplaced Pages. - ] ] 13:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Haha, ok... :D There have been publications by what one would consider the Greek hard-liners in "third-party peer-reviewed academic journals"... :D ] (]) 05:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::On the status of the Macedonian language in Albania? Fantastic, I'd be keen to see them. - ] ] 11:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::No, on the status of "Macedonia", in general. You know if scientists argue about you not existing, it's rather pointless for them to argue about your language... :D However, those are not my ideas, so don't bug me for sources... :D ] (]) 04:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| The tone of your message was quite rude; I suggest that, in future, before assuming that a long-standing and experienced editor has not done something, you ] that he has done his best in making a particular edit, which was the case here.--] (]) 10:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==] and ], entered by ] (]) 01:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)== | |||
| Then we're going to have to fix that article too. There is enough proof to show that the Dardani were Illyrian. --] (]) 01:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == Kosovo == | |||
| The problem is that you were removing sourced information. If you think it's wrong and should be removed, you need to explain why on talk. No problem with doing it, as long as it's explained. <b>]</b> 01:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| * Yes, I know that's a problem, but even a quick note on talk to say "I am doing this - this is my reason" would be enough. <b>]</b> 01:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ** Thanks for using the talk. The quickest way to re-insert information is to copy and paste from the previous diff , checking that you don't overwrite anything else (the lead paragraph doesn't need changing anyway). <b>]</b> 02:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| In response to your question, the local Macedonian name was added to article where the Macedonian language speakers constitute a large minority or, in many cases, a majority of the population. This population although speaks so-called "roofless" Slavic dialects, which are considered to be ]. The name "]" was chosen to act as a compromise ''per se'', because it not only combined linguistic facts but also the geo-political situation present. The term "Macedonian Slavic" was chosen becuase it was deemed neutral and did not claim that the local inhabitants were either "Aegean Macedonians" or "Slavophone Greeks". In this way the actual linguistic situation was to be reflected as per WP:NPOV. The addition of the "Bulgarian" name (often the excact same name in the Bulgarian Script) was deemed a WP:FRINGVEIW, seeing as Bulgarian dialects are not spoken in Greek Macedonia. This is a serious POV push on behalf of Laveol and TodorBozhinov. "Macedonian Slavic" is the appropriate name to be attached to places in West and Central Macedonia. For the rest see . ] (]) 04:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :You have clearly shown that you are not able to understand the point. Macedonian Slavic, was chosen because it was not claiming that the speakers had either a Macedonian or Greek ethnic conscienceness. The ], are in fact apart of the Macedonian and Bulgarian language. Even the lead states, ''"The Slavic dialects of Greece are the dialects of Macedonian and Bulgarian"''. The Greek name is mentioned at ], I cannot see what you are whingeing about. Unless you have anything relevant to say, I would advise to read more about the linguistic situation of the Macedonian language on the Balkan peninsula. ] (]) 04:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::And you have failed to see that ] leads you to the article ]. And since ] is so neutral why do you object using this term? --'''] <sup>]</sup>''' 09:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Hey, ], that's not right. It's two to one, and he did link it in his first comment. Let's all just calm down... :D | |||
| ::::Again, responding. You complain that the Greek name does not feature on any villages located in the Republic of Macedonia. Which villages in the Republic of Macedonia had a Greek speaking majority/minority populations? I know of a few ] Vlach villages, who since 1913 have lost any such pro-Greek feelings. Where are these Greek speaking villages? If you find any Greek speaking villages/places in the Republic of Macedonia, feel free to add the Greek name as a minority language name. In the same way which I have done. | |||
| ::::If you believe that the articles do not meet WP:NOTABILITY or any other reason why they should be deleted, nominate them for deletion. It is a common wikipedia practise, I have no objections if that will benefit the project. | |||
| ::::My final comment was in regards to your apparent lack of knowledge of either Macedonian, Bulgarian and the various Macedonian Slavic dialects in Greece. Had you had some linguistic knowledge you would not be seriously questioning the linguistic link between the Macedonian spoken in ROM and the Macedonian Slavic spoken in Greek Macedonia. | |||
| ::::I am still being friendly also. :) ] (]) 11:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Hi Heracletus, this note is just briefly to inform you, that I have now posted an answer to your question launched at my ] one week ago. Best regards, ] (]) 23:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Hello, Danish Expert. I read your reply and for my part, it was addressing what I asked you. I wasn't aware of that euro convergence template and the work of you and TDL on it. I do like the information you add on wikipedia, although I do still believe you overdo it with footnotes and relevant details. | |||
| :::Generally, I'm sorry that issues have kept arising with your work. I would suggest you ask L.tak or someone for an impartial opinion if an issue arises again. ] (]) 23:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thumbs up. I just want to let you know, that your personal opinion about specific issues, is along the way, also something that continue always to be greeted welcome by me, on an equal level with the opinion expressed by L.tak and all other editors. I want to thank you for all your inputs. As you already have experienced, my work here at Misplaced Pages often involves a broad research into the content, and in a few situations I just had to leave things uploaded at an intermediate state as part of that process to move it along (because it had reached a state of being "correct", and then later could be perfected by "cooking it down" or adding additional sources or reformulations whenever appropriate). In such situations, I of course accept later alterations imposed on my material. I always consider my work to be part of a process where we continuously jointly work to improve the article/content. In the future, I will indeed consider more frequently to invite L.tak + you + others to post your impartial third person opinions, if things get too heated between me and TDL. What happened lately for me in a couple of disputes with TDL, is that he seems to magnify some found issues (turning a small wind into a storm) or twist the debates into an angle which will make him look like the final "debate winning guy", instead of: ''Focusing merely to present/debate and solve the issue from a neutral point of view (without escalating things out of proportion) - while ensuring that we based on exchanged case specific arguments succeed to find and implement a solution in the most time efficient way''. When administrators/you read such lengthy twisted internal "TDL vs. DE debates" from the outside, it is almost impossible to figure out what is upside down (and this is certainly not your fault, but something I blame TDL for). By the end, though, we always manage to find a good solution for the issues he confronted me with, after having walked through a very time consuming debate. Keep up all your good work, Heracletus, and have a nice weekend. :-) '''Best regards,''' ] (]) 07:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Have a nice weekend, too, Danish Expert. And, please stop talking about TDL (at least in public), because my intention was not to re-start any arguments and he will eventually see this and may take it as a personal attack behind his back or something. ] (]) 11:00, 1 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Tosh Angelos == | |||
| Heracletus, I understand that you're a Greek-language expert, but we need to keep the spelling to follow the sources. In regards to ], Gillespie (p. 29) spells Angelos' name "Enistasious", and that's what needs to remain, regardless of how inaccurate it may be. Until we can find a more reliable source that has what you state is the correct spelling, and it's connected with the man who married Angelou, it needs to remain. I regret to tell you that I will continue to revert you if you continue to change it. Thanks for your interest in accuracy and for your advocacy of Greek here in this project. ] (]) 04:16, 28 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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