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			== Statement of Association ==
			So that it is clear, I (Kern Sibbald) am the principal author of the Bacula project (with help from many other contributors) thus I have an interest to ensure that the Bacula page is accurate and does not contain material that is inappropriate for Bacula (competitor advertising, denigration of the Bacula project or its members). From what I can see, the Bacula page was started in 2006 (not by me) and has evolved over time, with changes from many people, including myself. Though there have been a few edits that were either not clear or not accurate, these were easily changed and no dispute ever ensued. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== ~~Bareos~~ ~~Fork~~ ==		== BackupPC uses checksums ==
	I am not affiliated with either Bacula or Bareos, other than using them. I do not hold sympathies for any of those two. The current (as of now) paragraph describing the split between those two is neutral in my opinion, after being edited back and forth. '''Consider yourself warned as follows: Do not edit this paragraph without prior discussion.''' Any points shall be discussed in this paragraph, as with the rest of wikipedia. --] (]) 20:39, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

		⚫	The following statement ... ''By default, and '''as is case for all other Open Source backup software''', Bacula's Differential and Incremental backups are based on system time stamps.'' ] (]) 09:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

			== Spelling ==

			The contentious paragraph has, about halfway through, the possessive pronoun "Its" mis-spelled as "It's". As I have no admin rights, I am unable to correct it myself; so I hope some admin will. ] (]) 19:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
	== BackupPC uses checksums ==

			Also, a few words earlier, "name" is unnecessarily capitalised. ] (]) 19:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
⚫	The following statement ... ''By default, and '''as is case for all other Open Source backup software''', Bacula's Differential and Incremental backups are based on system time stamps.'' ] (]) 09:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

			== RFC regarding Revision as of 15:52, 14 July 2013 by Jeremy Butler ==
			The above editing removed information that is pertinent and factual, not "puffery" as the editor claimed.
			More importantly the changes removed the reference that Bacula is a registered trademark of Kern Sibbald.

			Please revert at a minimum the trademark removal and preferrably all his changes.
		⚫	] (]) 13:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

			== Statement of Association ==
			So that it is clear, I (Kern Sibbald) am the principal author of the Bacula project (with help from many other contributors) thus I have an interest to ensure that the Bacula page is accurate and does not contain material that is inappropriate for Bacula (competitor advertising, denigration of the Bacula project or its members). From what I can see, the Bacula page was started in 2006 (not by me) and has evolved over time, with changes from many people, including myself. Though there have been a few edits that were either not clear or not accurate, these were easily changed and no dispute ever ensued. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			== Suggestions in email ==

			Thank you (User:Mdann52) for posting the email on the Bacula talk page. This above email has suggestions about the recent controversy between myself and User:Gul.Maikat. I agree with all points in that email and now that the page is no longer locked, Iwould like to implement them. I would prefer it if you would modify the disputed Bareos paragraph to avoid a new conflict with User:Gul.Maikat.

			For the edits I am suggesting to make, I propose to change the comment about 3rd party contributions to the Bacula project to say that: "Any third party contributions will either not be accepted or will go into the Bacula community version. Only, if the contributor has given authorization by signing a Fiduciary License Agreement may the contribution also be included in the Enterprise version." I believe that all the suggestions including my modification, other than for the Bareos paragraph, are non-contraversial and thus they should not be disputed.

			Summary:
			1. With your agreement, I would like to make the changes suggested to the Bacula page including my clarification given above.
			2. I request you to make the suggested change to the disputed Bareos paragraph.
		⚫	] (]) 13:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

			Since I had a few other changes, and they seem non-contraversial, I have gone ahead and made the changes noted in point #1 above. ] (]) 15:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
	== Founder of Bacula project Kern Sibbald has removed information about a fork ==

			== Implementing last suggestion in email ==
	Please note that the founder of the Bacula project has removed information about an open source fork, see change history. I've reverted these changes.
			There being no more comments, I am implementing the one sent in by email, which corresponds the best to all the comments that have been made. ] (]) 16:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
	If an admin reads this: please moderate. Things can be discussed here. I think it is not appropriate, if an project founder removes
	information in this article that he dislikes.
⚫	] (]) 13:25, 6 ~~May~~ ~~2013~~ (UTC)

			----
	Some notes about the contents: Kern has removed all text about the open source fork Bareos. Bareos is a fork from Bacula, mainly started because of little
	progress in the Bacula community version. The information added to the Bacula article are about the fork itself (history) and new features added.
	This is useful information for Bacula users or readers being interested in Bacula. Given these information here, the reader can inform himself about
	the alternatives. Forking an open source project is quite usual and users can decide, which junction they follow.
	All information about the open source fork: http://www.bareos.org.
⚫	] (]) 13:49, 6 ~~May~~ ~~2013~~ (UTC)

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Statement of Association

So that it is clear, I (Kern Sibbald) am the principal author of the Bacula project (with help from many other contributors) thus I have an interest to ensure that the Bacula page is accurate and does not contain material that is inappropriate for Bacula (competitor advertising, denigration of the Bacula project or its members). From what I can see, the Bacula page was started in 2006 (not by me) and has evolved over time, with changes from many people, including myself. Though there have been a few edits that were either not clear or not accurate, these were easily changed and no dispute ever ensued. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KernSibbald (talk • contribs) 06:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

BackupPC uses checksums

The following statement may not be true for BackupPC, if rsync and --ignore-times are used... By default, and as is case for all other Open Source backup software, Bacula's Differential and Incremental backups are based on system time stamps. Meonkeys (talk) 09:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Spelling

The contentious paragraph has, about halfway through, the possessive pronoun "Its" mis-spelled as "It's". As I have no admin rights, I am unable to correct it myself; so I hope some admin will. Maproom (talk) 19:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Also, a few words earlier, "name" is unnecessarily capitalised. Maproom (talk) 19:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

RFC regarding Revision as of 15:52, 14 July 2013 by Jeremy Butler

The above editing removed information that is pertinent and factual, not "puffery" as the editor claimed. More importantly the changes removed the reference that Bacula is a registered trademark of Kern Sibbald.

Please revert at a minimum the trademark removal and preferrably all his changes. KernSibbald (talk) 13:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Statement of Association

Suggestions in email

Thank you (User:Mdann52) for posting the email on the Bacula talk page. This above email has suggestions about the recent controversy between myself and User:Gul.Maikat. I agree with all points in that email and now that the page is no longer locked, Iwould like to implement them. I would prefer it if you would modify the disputed Bareos paragraph to avoid a new conflict with User:Gul.Maikat.

For the edits I am suggesting to make, I propose to change the comment about 3rd party contributions to the Bacula project to say that: "Any third party contributions will either not be accepted or will go into the Bacula community version. Only, if the contributor has given authorization by signing a Fiduciary License Agreement may the contribution also be included in the Enterprise version." I believe that all the suggestions including my modification, other than for the Bareos paragraph, are non-contraversial and thus they should not be disputed.

Summary: 1. With your agreement, I would like to make the changes suggested to the Bacula page including my clarification given above. 2. I request you to make the suggested change to the disputed Bareos paragraph. KernSibbald (talk) 13:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Since I had a few other changes, and they seem non-contraversial, I have gone ahead and made the changes noted in point #1 above. KernSibbald (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Implementing last suggestion in email

There being no more comments, I am implementing the one sent in by email, which corresponds the best to all the comments that have been made. KernSibbald (talk) 16:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

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