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			== ] ==
	== Edit Request on Patanjali==

			Hello. In the spirit of ], I am not leaving you a notice in the customary form. I still ] that in 2019, you made a number of additions to the prose of the above article. They appear to have been lifted directly from a third-party website, contrary to ]. I am certain that you had not realised the policy's requirements, but please keep them in mind in future. Should you have any questions, let me know. Best regards, ] 16:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
	In the lead of the ] page, there is way too much emphasis on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Indeed, the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali don't need to be mentioned at all. Please eliminate Yoga Sutras of Patanjali in lead. ] (]) 03:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

			:{{yo\|Arcticocean}} as far as I can see, I merged ] and ] to ], and did not copy info from the Hare Krishna website, unless it was my edit from 12 january 2019 08:30. But that edit added 1,521 bytes, while you removed 3,693 bytes. But correct me if I'm wrong. ] - ] 16:54, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
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			::Ah! That is borne out by a few of the edit summaries too, so I'm sure that was the case indeed. Sorry for suggesting that you had copyvioed. It's been very difficult to understand the history of this article, and the genesis of the content, because so many merge, demerge, and move actions have occurred over the years. Nimbarka was moved to ], for instance, but that page now has no history due to a subsequent ]… Thanks for your response and sorry to disturb. ] 17:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

			:::{{yo\|Arcticocean}} thank you! I was bothered indeed; it's not the kind of source I prefer; and if I use something like that, I use quotation-marks and clear attribution if I deem a londer chunk of text relevant for a Wiki-article. Regards, ] - ] 17:10, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
	== New pages ==

	You think there should be following pages?

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	Like we got
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	:My first thought is, "No"; too specific. At second thought, it might be of interest to some. "Hindu views on monotheism" has been visited , so it might be of interest. ] -] 06:44, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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	== Edit summary ==

	Movement, but not removement. Rather: removal.] (]) 17:27, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

	== See ] ==

	See Aryan Migration talk. ] (]) 19:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
	:You should clearly do about something, we shall remember once again, that Aryan theory is no more accepted by people, since about 1940s. And things like "fusion of aryan and dravidian culture" on lead may disagreements and edit war, like the current one we are having. One was previously by "yoondaue"(something). If you remember. ] (]) 03:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
	::"Aryan migration theory" is common scholarly understanding. And the "fusion" too. I think it's properly sourced. Yoonadue is a clear example of ]. ] -] 14:20, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

	== Surat ==

	If you have time, would you look at the most recent edits to ]? One editor added a date, first with AD, then changing it to CE. It is missing the word "in" before the year. I was going to add "in", but before I did so, I thought I'd ask you to be sure that the date is correct. Another editor just before that added a www website for "movers and packers in Surat". I thought that might be an attempt to add a website to a business so as to get a little free advertising, but I wasn't sure.] (]) 19:25, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
	:Honestly, I've no idea if the date is correct, but it looks like a GFE to me. The "movers and packers" have been self-reverted already. Best regards, ] -] 15:27, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

	== 2 Edit Requests on HINDUISM page ==

	1. Add Buddhism as one of the explicit roots of Hinduism. 2. Add this reference to the lead: {{quote\|Inden, Ronald. "Ritual, Authority, And Cycle Time in Hindu Kingship." In JF Richards, ed., ''Kingship and Authority in South Asia''. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 1998, p.67, 55 "before the eighth century, the Buddha was accorded the position of universal deity and ceremonies by which a king attained to imperial status were elaborate donative ceremonies entailing gifts to Buddhist monks and the installation of a symbolic Buddha in a stupa....This pattern changed in the eighth century. The Buddha was replaced as the supreme, imperial deity by one of the Hindu gods '''(except under the Palas of eastern India, the Buddha's homeland)'''...Previously the Buddha had been accorded imperial-style worship (puja). Now as one of the Hindu gods replaced the Buddha at the imperial centre and pinnacle of the cosmo-political system, the image or symbol of the Hindu god comes to be housed in a monumental temple and given increasingly elaborate imperial-style puja worship."}}] (]) 01:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

	:Hi Victoria. Thank you very much for this source! Most welcome. Best regards, ] -] 14:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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	== No Western Academic book uses genetics to justify Aryan Migration ==

	No western academic book uses genetics to justify Aryan Migration. Please delete the entire section. ] (]) 21:51, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
	:. ] -] 07:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

	== You give third opinion ==

	For related subjects? ] (]) 08:19, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
	:? ] -] 16:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
	:Share opinion, here ] ] (]) 03:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
	::You're sure? I noticed the message at your Talk page, but thought it best to stay out. I'll have a second look, though. Best regards, ] -] 07:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::I know, some unwanted conflict, because you suggest that a person is "wp:stalking" that can be suspicious, never knew that before either way. ] (]) 08:35, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::I refrained therefo from commenting, being a "Talk page stalker" already. ] -] 08:48, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::Indeed. Some of the circumstances are untold here, I avoid ban as much as i can though, few times it's uncertain what next one is doing. Now right now we got only one issue, and that's with the aryan migration theory, if that IP guy can present some special proof like he has told before, it may help a lot.. Do you also think that Rahul Jain will never put a end to the 2500 years old debate? I pretty much think so.. ] (]) 08:54, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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Nimbarka Sampradaya

Hello. In the spirit of WP:DTTR, I am not leaving you a notice in the customary form. I still need to say that in 2019, you made a number of additions to the prose of the above article. They appear to have been lifted directly from a third-party website, contrary to Misplaced Pages:Copyright violations. I am certain that you had not realised the policy's requirements, but please keep them in mind in future. Should you have any questions, let me know. Best regards, arcticocean ■ 16:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Arcticocean: as far as I can see, I merged Nimbarka and Dvaitadvaita to Nimbarka Sampradaya, and did not copy info from the Hare Krishna website, unless it was my edit from 12 january 2019 08:30. But that edit added 1,521 bytes, while you removed 3,693 bytes. But correct me if I'm wrong. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 16:54, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Ah! That is borne out by a few of the edit summaries too, so I'm sure that was the case indeed. Sorry for suggesting that you had copyvioed. It's been very difficult to understand the history of this article, and the genesis of the content, because so many merge, demerge, and move actions have occurred over the years. Nimbarka was moved to Draft:Move/Nimbarkacharya, for instance, but that page now has no history due to a subsequent WP:ROUNDROBIN… Thanks for your response and sorry to disturb. arcticocean ■ 17:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Arcticocean: thank you! I was bothered indeed; it's not the kind of source I prefer; and if I use something like that, I use quotation-marks and clear attribution if I deem a londer chunk of text relevant for a Wiki-article. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:10, 12 January 2025 (UTC)