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	I hope you enjoy editing here and being a ]! Please ] on talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out ], ask me on my talk page, or place <code><nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki></code> on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!&nbsp; &mdash;] <sup><small>(])</small></sup> 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)		I hope you enjoy editing here and being a ]! Please ] on talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out ], ask me on my talk page, or place <code><nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki></code> on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!&nbsp; &mdash;] <sup><small>(])</small></sup> 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
			== Colin Cunningham ==
	== Bircham International University ==
			Hi. I am new to Misplaced Pages editing and am having an issue with a fellow editor. I am trying to fix and update the page on actor Colin Cunningham but my edit was immediately taken down by a person who claimed I have a conflict of interest! I have been Librarian for over 25 years and teach Ethical Information Sources to High School Students. The person in question did not even ask my qualifications or reason for wishing to update this page prior to removing my edits and making false accusations. They have failed to respond to me at all to clarify the thought process behind these accusations. The mistakes on the page were noticed by a gentleman I do research for from time to time. He does not feel qualified to become an editor and make the corrections himself. He asked if I would do it since I am a Librarian. I am not being paid in any manner other than in my capacity as a Librarian by the institution that employs me. I have fact checked all of the information he has given me with the appropriate bodies (Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences website, Leo Awards Archive of Past Awardees and Nominees website, etc.) But as I said, I corrected only one sentence and posted a new photo (that I got written permission from the actor to use, per Misplaced Pages rules) before my work was taken down.
			:My intention for this article are as follows:
			:# Add the new photograph I got permission to use. The old one was from 2012 and is not how the man currently looks.
			:# Fix an error that credits the actor with being the founder of the Open Fist theatre company in Los Angeles. He was a member of the founding company, which is a very different thing. (see Misplaced Pages article on Open Fist Theatre Company: ])
			:# Fix a number of grammatical errors and awkward wording so the whole page reads better. The page has been edited by multiple people since first posted and it's a bit choppy and disjointed.
			:# Add a table of the actor's many award wins and nominations. He was shortlisted for an Academy Award Nomination, has won 3 Leo Awards and been nominated for 11 and has a number of other awards to his credit as actor, writer, director and producer.
			:I am happy to have another Misplaced Pages editor fact-check my work when I am finished, if it is indeed standard practice.
			:Many thanks,
			:LAFUREY ] (]) 18:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Hi Orlady, I have done some edits at the Bircham International University article. You have systematically undone all of them, despite of my efforts to provide some input and discussion in the talk page. You affirm that I have no credibility. At Misplaced Pages credibility is the direct consequence of the sources of information used, not on whom the author is. A long editing history at Misplaced Pages may demonstrate commitment from the editor or proficiency in dealing with Wiki rules, but not actual credibility. The fact that all wikipedia editors are anonymous users without identified credentials and qualifications make the credibility of editors a not much applicable aspect for any editor. It is then the facts that should be considered.
			{{tq|17:40, March 1, 2014 Orlady moved page Talk:The Saguache Crescent to Talk:Saguache Crescent over redirect (Removing definite article -- see Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name) for the reasons)}}
	You have deleted a some proposed edits, even one that was corrected by the Oregon DOE web that you now linked to a wayback machine. The Oregon DOE web is not working all the time, but when it works you should check and find out that the references to Kenya Institute are deleted, so they should be in the article. Use the way back on a closer in time look and you may check this out.
			You're wrong. please undo your move. ] ] 17:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
	Anyway, I see some discrepancies in the way an article should talk about any institution. The institution should be defined based on facts, then explain what it is, what it does, where it is, when it was founded. For these facts two sources are relevant: John Bear and Spain ICEX ( A Spain gobernment body that has been considered a promotional one by editors with out knowledge about the institution). I will explain more about the ICEX later and provide English ref for verification. The article more or less does so, but it is redundant sometimes. Also, any comments and opinios should be reserved to the Controversy section, which is, by the way, a good idea.
			*Why haven't you sorted this out yet? ] ] 13:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
	I kindly ask for some trust. Do not hesitate to contact me with any questions. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:10, 5 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			*Too many administrators believe themselves to be infallible, even quoting policy and guidelines they've obviously never read, as you did in this case. What would you suggest as a kinder way of saying "you're a wanker"? ] ] 22:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
	==DYK for Tony Robinson (American football)==
			:I see nothing wrong with Eric's comments. However I do find this comment unprofessional: "I might have returned to this a bit sooner if the comments on my talk page had been a bit "nicer". Just saying." Why should my article be held up because of something that Eric said, though I can't imagine what he said that offended you. ] (]) 16:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
			::Who says we are "professional" around here? I am not paid for this. I edit Misplaced Pages and I do DYK reviews for free -- and most of my DYK reviews are never claimed for QPQ credit.
			::In interacting with humans who are volunteering their time, you need to account for some human psychology -- including the existence of human emotions. Most (more likely all) of us have conflicting demands for our time (Misplaced Pages is not the most important thing in my life) and most (if not all) of us have emotions that we can't always account for. If a request here rubs me the wrong way, it reduces the chance that I'm going to be motivated to drop everything and respond. If this were a professional assignment for me, I would suck it up and respond immediately, but this isn't a professional assignment, so I don't feel I have to do that. Anyway, by the time I responded to this request, I was no longer feeling grumpy about it, which probably was a better thing for all of us. --] (]) 16:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
			::Being an infallible administrator Orlady found it difficult to admit that she was wrong, and childishly held up your DYK review in retaliation. Just the way it is here. ] ] 23:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
			:::Orlady sure does believe in her infallibility. This talk thread is very interesting. Multiple editors have told her that telling an administrator to resign isn't a personal attack but she has yet to admit she was wrong with this edit.] 00:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Ernest O. Wollan==
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	|text = On ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you recently nominated. The fact was ''... that in ] ''']'''{{`s}} only appearance in the ], he led the ] to a victory that has been called one of the greatest upsets in league history?'' {{#if: |The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template:Did you know nominations/Tony Robinson (American football)|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template talk:Did you know/Tony Robinson (American football)|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].}} }} }} You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(], )</small> and it will be added to ] if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the ].		|text = On ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that although physicist ''']''' pioneered ], he did not share in the Nobel Prize that was awarded for the technology?'' {{#if: |The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest O. Wollan|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template talk:Did you know/Ernest O. Wollan|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].}} }} }} You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(], , )</small>, and it may be added to ] if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the ].
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			==DYK for Hackney Chapel AME Zion Church==
	== my edits to the Northland International University Misplaced Pages page ==
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			==Re ]==
	Dear Orlady,
			I'm going by this statement: "Any autoconfirmed registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose)". You could always modify the template and put yourself as nominator. I've commented on your talk page as I don't want the nom to be crowded with a wall of text not related to its promotions. ] (]) 17:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
			:That statement describes the reality that only autoconfirmed users can create a template. That was drafted as an explanatory statement and added to the DYK information pages sometime after the current template-based nomination mechanism was created (before that, nominations were created directly on the noms page, which anyone can edit). I can see why you interpreted that statement to indicate that submission of DYK nominations is some sort of right or privilege that is limited to autoconfirmed users, but that was never the intent. DYK has always encouraged the participation of anonymous contributors. --] (]) 21:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
			::I never suggested that anons should be "block ... from participating in DYK". As you quite rightfully summarized on the nom page they are free to recommend nominations at the DYK project talk page. However I'll defer to your explanation of the situation. ] (]) 06:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
			== Belated thanks ==
	Thanks for your note and for the info regarding the editing of articles on Misplaced Pages. I'm a long time reader here, but since I'm brand new to the world of editing, I read through the guidelines you recommended to me on my talk page. You are correct, I am currently on staff at Northland International University, so of course I'm strongly interested in the contents of our Misplaced Pages presence. I have every desire to cooperate with Misplaced Pages's policies and to be clear about my identity. I hope you will consider the following few thoughts--I appreciate your time and attention.
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	First, you probably already saw Northland's talk page and realized there have been some significant editing wars along with back-and-forth dialogue in recent months. We find ourselves no strangers to controversy these days! I won't bore you with the details, but in general, some of our historic supporters were displeased with changes we've made at our school and have been publicly very clear about their dissatisfaction. This outcry has inevitably led to widespread slanting of the truth since many of these people have neither visited our campus nor spoken directly with our leadership. That's why I was surprised to read some of the inflammatory comments on our Misplaced Pages page. It's quite possible that my edits swung the pendulum too far the other direction, so please feel free to assist in maintaining neutrality.
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			|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I know this is very late but I wanted to thank you for your participation at my RfA. I was very inspired by the many that demonstrated fairness and compassion regardless of how they voted. Its the feeling of friendship and camaraderie that keeps me coming back. So, thank you for your participation and for your continued sense of fairness and compassion in all areas of WP. I look forward to continuing to work together in the days to come. Best wishes, <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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			== ] ==
	Regarding my edits from yesterday, two in particular stand out. I would like to appeal to your sense of objectivity to help remedy the situation. Under the section on "Change in articles of faith," the reader clearly sees that we adopted a temporary set of articles until our final statement of faith was completed (which happened about a month ago). All I'm asking is that the information be updated to reflect our new statement of faith, and that perhaps the article link to the appropriate page of our website (which was contained in my edit from yesterday).
			Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this nomination and see if it is ready for approval. The initial review was done by that IP-hopper who posted to ] last week, and I'd like someone who is clearly judging based on DYK rules to make sure it meets our criteria—the fact that "citation needed" templates were not considered important enough to have corrected prior to approval makes me wonder what else might have been overlooked. Thanks. ] (]) 14:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
	The other edit in question relates to the section under "local church ministry." For some reason, there is an insistence among some to accuse our school of creating a "Christian rock band." Again, I won't bore you with the details, but this comment is not only inaccurate, but clearly a disparaging remark towards our school. That's why my edit used the term "worship team," a description that is accurate, universal, and as neutral as possible. I'm appealing to you simply to replace the wording.
			==DYK for Helen Fraser (feminist)==
	It would be great to reinstate the five-fold purpose of our "local church ministry" endeavors, so please let me know if there is some form of documentation that would help in that regard. I really believe those particular points articulate well what we're trying to accomplish through local churches (as indicated in my footnote citing a recent powerpoint presentation to pastors).
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			:Hi, I have just been informed by a bot that there had been a discussion about an article that I had created and you had contributed to at ] because of a particular fact that I included. It was nice to have been informed of this and it would have been nicer to have been informed of this before the discussion had been closed and a decision reached. I appreciate that as the nominator, the responsibility was not yours. It occurs to me that you may be interested in helping address an issue that I think important. I have a view about how the role of women has been undervalued by history and I think wikipedia has a moral duty to rectify this but has policies that prevent this from happening. I would be happy to ellaborate on this to the relevant person/people. ] (]) 09:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
			::Hello, ]. Discussion of your concerns about the DYK appearance seems to have occurred on several different pages, and it took me some time to sort it all out. The ] feature exists primarily to bring attention to new and newly expanded articles, as well as new ]. It does this by presenting interesting facts from those articles on the main page. I nominated the Helen Fraser article for DYK after seeing it on a list of new articles. Before I nominated the article, I checked the sources that I could access and I did some editing to the article, including revisions to eliminate what I perceived to be ] of sources.
			::The statement in the article that I found most interesting for DYK was (in the original article version) "In 1922 she was the first woman to be adopted in Scotland as a parliamentary candidate when she was selected as National Liberal candidate for the Govan Division of Glasgow for the 1922 General Election." The wording of that sentence was confusing, so I looked at sources to make sure I understood what was meant by "being adopted in Scotland as a candidate". In the National Dictionary of Biography I found "After the war Helen was employed as a commissioner for National Savings, resigning in 1922 to stand as the Liberal candidate for Govan, the first woman to be adopted as an official candidate in Scotland." After reading that, I added the word "official" to the sentence in the article. It was clear to me that she was a candidate for UK parliament. When I wrote the hook I retained the wording "in Scotland" to ensure consistency with the sources (I thought there was a remote possibility that a woman "in England" had previously been named as a candidate to represent Scotland, so I didn't want to say "from Scotland"). In retrospect, it's apparent that the words "candidate for parliament in Scotland" could be misunderstood as indicating that she was a candidate for parliament of Scotland (that didn't occur to me because such a parliament didn't exist in her time), but several people (including me, as well as ], who you contacted about this) didn't think of that possibility. It's not uncommon for people who are familiar with a topic to fail to see how someone else could misinterpret their words; linking the word "parliament" to the UK parliament was a good "fix" to indicate the meaning.
			::You are hardly alone in thinking that Misplaced Pages needs to do a better job with women's history. I suggest that you get involved with the ] here. (I have, however, been dismayed to find that the W.H. Wikiproject seems to have a restrictive definition of "history," such that most accomplishments by women in the last few decades are considered to be outside its scope.) --] (]) 06:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
			:::] asked me if I had done any similar articles and I flagged up ], but I understand that DYK runs a set of criteria that means it is 'too late' for this article to be nominated. If you are involved with promoting womens history month, this is the sort of article that might have an appeal. ] (]) 10:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
			::::There's a learning curve involved in contributing to DYK -- starting with understanding those esoteric rules for article eligibility. Now that you've had this introduction, I look forward to your contributions in the future -- we are always looking for interesting content about women (not just in Women's History Month, but pretty much every day of the year). --] (]) 14:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Marie Dollinger==
	Again, thanks for your time and for your note.
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			== ] ==
	Best regards,
			Orlady, I was wondering whether you were planning to come back to this one now that Wnt has responded to your concerns, or if I should instead call for a new reviewer. If the latter, please let me know. Many thanks. ] (]) 00:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
	Trevor E. Gearhart
	Vice President of Enrollment, Northland International University <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:01, 6 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== Help needed ==
	::Thank you for your thoughtful note. It is clear that Northland is the subject of controversy these days, but the warring over the article actually has been pretty mild in comparison with some other articles I watch.
	::Since reading your message, I've edited the verbiage in ] about the "Christian rock band", but I've not made the other changes.
	::A general problem I have with the article is a lack of sources for verifiability. Misplaced Pages can't be a publisher of original content (see ] and ]); everything reported in Misplaced Pages articles is supposed to be based on content previously published somewhere else (see ] and ]). The Northland website tells about the adoption of the temporary articles of faith, but I didn't see anything on the website telling about the process of formulating and adopting the new articles. Thus, your statements about the new Statement of Faith being completed in early fall and its availability on the school website were not supported by the website as a source. (Additionally, the language about the "thorough vetting process" seemed to me to a bit too self-congratulatory; an encyclopedia ought to say something more to the effect that the new statement was formulated collaboratively by the school's administration, Bible faculty, and board members.) The content about the traveling worship band (a.k.a. "Christian rock band") also is not supported by ]; it's mainly supported by commentary on somebody's blog, which is not an acceptable source. It seems like a bit of information that's worth including, but it would be nice to have a decent source. (Can you supply one?)
	::I didn't like the content about the five-fold purpose of the "local church ministry" because it seemed like promotion or proselytizing. The objective information that this is part of Northland's program is something an encyclopedia should include, but content about "the natural accountability and unity of the Body of Christ," "like-minded pastors who have a heart for mentoring," etc., does not impress me as encyclopedic. --] (]) 21:15, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
			Dear Orlady,
	Sorry for my absence, Orlady--I've been away from the office traveling since we last corresponded.
			I hope this finds you well. I have created ] at https://en.wikipedia.org/Mohammad_Samir_Hossain. Will you please help me edit and make it a better article or stub! I know you are really an expert author having due knowledge on editing at wiki.
			Thanks
			Shoovrow
			] (]) 07:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Old Deery Inn==
	Your comments above make complete sense and I agree that our page was definitely leaning toward promotion. I will do my best to avoid that in the future. I have some thoughts I'll present to you later when I have a little more time. For now, I noticed that an unidentified editor linked the "worship band" wording to the Misplaced Pages "Christian rock" article, so I deleted that link. Let me know if you have further input on that topic. Will get back to you soon, and thanks again for your helpful recommendations.
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			== ] ==
	Trev <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Orlady, we have the situation here that a pair of articles about a team of two lugers, both named Tobias, had their articles expanded with effectively the same 600+ character Olympics section (plus other material specific to each person), and each just barely makes the 5x expansion using that repeated material. Is this something where we could (or should) do an IAR and let both names (and articles) be bolded, or require that one of them be unbolded? (Another reviewer felt that the articles were padded a bit to get them up and over the 5x level.) Can you please take a look and decide what ought to be done? I've superseded the tick because of the duplicative expansion (which was only part of the new material), and will defer to your wisdom here. Many thanks. ] (]) 00:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
	== MOS:COMMA ==
			:Thanks for weighing in. ] (]) 05:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
	I have opened a new RFC at ]. <small>—''']'''&nbsp;]</small> 08:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
	== FYI re user PBS ==		== Expanded ==
			Dear Orlady,
	User PBS has not taken on board the advice given . Search ] for his contributions of late and you'll see he's back to his old, disruptive ways. Although he hasn't made any changes to the ''article'', he's like a cancer and quite frankly, I'm getting very sick of it. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] ]</span> 12:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
			I am glad that you went through the article. I have further expanded it. Will you be kind enough to pen through it a bit. Remember its ]. Take Care.] (]) 07:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee)==
	== A barnstar for you! ==
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			Dear, Thanks for your kind help in editing ]. I have tried to change the lead sentence and this time its exactly as the reference presents, and the reference is also mentioned beside the word that can create question about verifiability. Still, if you feel like changing anything I shall always welcome. This time I have uploaded a free photo and I don't mind if the previous copyrighted one gets deleted to uphold wiki rule. Thanks.
	== Seeking an Unblock, Will You Consider It? ==
			] (]) 04:30, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
			== Thanks for reviewing the ''Givhan'' DYK ==
	Hi Orlady, I'm permanently blocked but I believe I never got a fair shake, so I write to ask you have a look at it and consider unblocking. I come to you pretty much randomly. I decided to ask someone beginning with the letter "O" and I went to the list of active administrators. Right now I am able to write here because I'm editing via raw IP and signing my user name. I know that is "block evasion" but my talkpage and email were cut off, and I feel I've no other honest alternative.
			You ''do'' realize, though, that one of the secondary sources you found, that William & Mary law review article, ''is'' in the article as a source (see note 52, the very last one). ] (]) 03:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
	I looked at your userpage for a moment. I think I was to Oak Ridge once or twice as a child. I lived in mountainous western North Carolina for a while. I did an academic business paper once where in part I looked at employment statistics and educational opportunities in Mountain City, Tennessee. I noticed you made the Uncasville entry. The Mohegan Sun Casino is one of my favorite places to go in that area. I like the entertainment options, saw Collective Soul there once. It's cool to decompress for a day or two in a shiny resort environment like that. I like that the tribe gets money out of that, for social programs and such, and to help their disadvantaged.
			:Sunuvagun! However, I discounted that "Analysis and Commentary" section. I was hoping to see secondary sources get used to help support the parts of the article that describe the case, the opinion, and subsequent jurisprudence. --] (]) 04:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
			::As you noted, there's still a lot of uncertainty there. I generally feel that most judges (or, let's be honest, their clerks) write in clear enough prose that summarizing and paraphrasing their opinions, with generous quotation, is sufficient. As for secondary sources, it's later decisions interpreting that decision that generally make the interpretation that counts (Honestly, I would class most appellate or higher opinions as secondary sources by our standards to begin with since, after all, they are really little more than commentary and analysis of the lower-court decision.<p>At some point in the future I might expand the article somewhat; I'd shore up the sources at that point. ] (]) 17:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)</p>
			== Jesse Whitesell House and Farm ==
	I consider myself a good contributor to the encyclopedia. I created several articles, most of which are the #1 Google result by now, and extensively edited many more. This was mainly in my original account. In my new account I had little time before getting blocked but I at least authored the new article ].
			I just saw your WT:NRHP discussion with Dudemanfellabra regarding the ], as well as the stub you created. As the photographer for the images currently in the article, I can tell you that it's rather confusing on the ground, too; I wasn't quite clear what I should photograph in order to get elements of both the original and the increase. If I correctly understand your words, I agree with what you've said: although it was originally located just in Kentucky, it needs to be listed as a duplicate because the increase causes the listing to include resources on both sides of the border. ] (]) 04:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
	In May 2012 I was no-warn/no-diffs/no-explanation blocked by Timotheus Canens. He clicked one of his Twinkle buttons which generated a link to WP:SOCK. I never socked. I switched from my original account to this, never going back, because of privacy concerns. This is the no-fault basis described by WP:CLEANSTART, which is policy. I was 100% up-front about this from my first edit in this account, if you look. I have never had any other accounts (well, I think I accidentally made one intending it to be WikiMEDIA, which I thought I needed to upload some pictures, but I never "edited" with that, just uploaded and described two pictures). I didn't handle the block very well. I wasn't experienced with blocks. I was angered a bit because of no explanation and I felt my honesty ("sock") was attacked. Timotheus never explained himself for more than a year, but five or six WP:AN/ANI regulars descended on my page, haranguing me, each with his own theory. It was awful and I didn't know to whom I had to answer. All? Suspicion reigned and people presumed Timotheus, "sock puppet investigator," had secret evidence.
			:Thanks for the info, Nyttend. Your photos are, of course, the best part of the article I created. :-) --] (]) 13:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee)==
	Well, the story goes on from there, but I shouldn't write a novel on your talkpage. If I've told you enough that you'll consider researching my case, please unblock my talkpage and ask me anything you like. I will not mislead you. To date, no evidence has ever been provided of socking, it's all too often catcallers from WP:AN/ANI blabbing and criticizing and running their mouths. I'd sign my username plainly but technical reasons mean I have to type it as below. Certainly no offense if you turn me down politely, the last administrator I asked said "sorry, I don't want to get involved" and the one before that said "sorry, I don't have the time."
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			Orlady, can you please take this one under your wing? Nikkimaria had some objections, and I'm not entirely sure they've been answered. There was a suggestion at ] that someone be found to look over sources—perhaps you could do whatever might be appropriate? If not, I think this one will remain stalled for the foreseeable future. Thanks. ] (]) 01:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
	:Sorry, but no dice. If you want to be reinstated, you need to try to convince the administrators who blocked you. And do consider that you wouldn't have been accused of sockpuppetry in the first place if your behavior had not been problematic. --] (]) 01:19, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
			:Was it the bad pun that put you off? ;-) If you aren't interested, I can certainly try to find someone else, maybe Crisco when he's fully recovered. Please let me know. Thanks. ] (]) 15:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
	::The administrator that blocked me will not speak to me, and has never spoken to me. My "problematic" behavior consisted of roughly criticizing a bully who had pushed around another editor for two years as "provocateur." It surely doesn't warrant a permanent block and neither does it make me a "sock." I think you are wrong and don't understand fully, but thank you for at least responding.
			::I started looking at it, but it was a bigger job than I had time for at the moment, and I forgot about it... Maybe I'll get to it soon. --] (]) 18:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
			:::Yeah, sorry about the size of it. If you can get back to it, that would be great. Thank you so much. ] (]) 14:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
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			== Hackney Chapel ==
	== ] ==
	Orlady, could you give this another check to see whether the changes by the creator are sufficient to address the issues you raised, and make a final decision based on what was done? Many thanks. ] (]) 03:40, 9 November 2013 (UTC)		Any idea what has to do with Hackney Chapel? I uploaded it to Commons (it's from 1912), but I wasn't sure how it was related to the church, other than being located in Unitia. ] (]) 03:50, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
			:I think you have the right idea regarding "both being located in Unitia". Unitia School apparently was the black school in Unitia. There's a little bit of information about it in the sources for the Hackney Chapel article, but the sources didn't clearly indicate a relationship (unlike ] or ], where there is a strong connection between church and school).
			:The Middle Tennessee State University folks had (or possibly still have) a major project to survey historical black churches. Since other community institutions were closely related to the churches, I guess it seemed natural to their archivist to put that school photo into the same bin as the materials about the local black church. --] (]) 04:03, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church==
	== Promote a hook? ==
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			:I just noticed this by accident. Good work, especially since I appreciate my photos getting used :-) Did you find anything about whether the congregation is still in existence? Between the dilapidated appearance and the damaged historical marker (I vaguely remember seeing something about the marker getting hit by a truck), I got the impression that it wasn't used for religious purposes anymore. ] (]) 02:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
			::I didn't find anything when I researched the article, but after seeing your note, I looked again. I've updated the article. :-) --] (]) 02:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
			== Nice work ==
	Hi, I had a DYK approved a few days ago, but the hook has yet to be promoted (with other stuff promoted in the meantime, at T:TDYK, see ]. Not sure who is promoting hooks these days, but looks like a labor shortage over at DYK generally, so I'm pinging a few people about this. Thanks! ]<sup>]</sup> 21:06, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
			You did a nice job of expanding ] to good Start level. ] (]) 18:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
	==Talkback==
			==DYK nomination of Durham's Chapel School==
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			] Hello! Your submission of ] at the ] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath ''']''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><span style="color:#909;">czar</span>&nbsp;]</span> 23:53, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
	] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 05:06, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
			==DYK for Durham's Chapel School==
	== Happy Editing ==
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			Orlady, Gerda's latest comment contains the phrase "your turn", so I think she wants/needs/is expecting you to take the next step. Can you please take a look to see what needs to be done? Many thanks. ] (]) 04:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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	Orlady, the ALT hook you requested in your review has been provided, and some editing was done by the nominator. Can you please check to see whether your concerns have been addressed, and the hook properly supported? Many thanks. ] (]) 16:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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			:Thanks, ]! As you know, however, I am only one of many -- and some of the others are far more diligent. --] (]) 13:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	== DYK query ==
			Orlady, the creator has asked a question here, in a response to your previous comment. Did you want to answer it, or should I put out a call for a new reviewer? Please let me know if it's the latter. Many thanks. ] (]) 13:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
	Hi, I've not been involved with DYK for quite some time now and am out of touch. I'm currently working on ] and wonder if a hook could be made of his quote concerning his time as a war correspondent - ""I was thoroughly and deeply ashamed of what I had written." (There are a couple of important additions to go in there yet, including that some people think him to have been a model for one of the characters of ]). I'd appreciate your thoughts. - ] (]) 01:16, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
			:That article had some gnarly issues with POV -- and also problems with presentation and sourcing. Rather than attempt a discussion with an elusive IP user, I've been editing it on-again and off-again (to the extent that my time and my limited patience with tabloid sources and opinionated blogs allow): . It's getting close to being ready. --] (]) 13:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
	:Excellent idea. For a hook, I suggest: "... that ''']''' said he was "thoroughly and deeply ashamed" of his writings as a war correspondent during World War I?" You have until 17 November to nominate it. --] (]) 05:16, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
	::That sounds good, thanks. I've written/expanded a few that could have been DYK candidates but, well, I couldn't be bothered. I've also done a few that should be pushed through GA but, as you know, I spend far too much time reverting people here! - ] (]) 00:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	==Ants==
	I wonder if you could have a look at . The matter relates to how text incorporated from an outside source into an article should be attributed. Although I am not directly concerned with the article in question or its DYK nomination, I am involved in a joint DYK nomination with the same editor (he has written one article and I have written the other) which has yet to be reviewed. It may have similar problems and at this stage I could withdraw that nomination. Thank you. ] (]) 06:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
			::Thanks. Good to know it's being taken care of (and I very much understand about limited patience in that circumstance). ] (]) 14:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
	== November 2013 GA Thanks ==
			==DYK for Philip Lindsley==
	{{User good articles|Edward M. Burke}} On behalf of ], I thank you for your editorial contributions to ], which recently was promoted to ].--] <small>(] / ] / ] / ] / ])</small> 17:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
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	== Potential sockpuppet of Levineps ==
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	Recently, ] (]) has been sporadically popping up on my watchlist for category-related changes. A lot of new users do that, so it wasn't a particularly noteworthy thing for me. But then he kept showing up with a higher frequency, oftentimes making (what I thought to be) completely unnecessary over-categorizations to articles. I've been on Misplaced Pages long enough to know that ] (]) is one of the most notorious over-categorizers we've ever seen (and has the community sanctions, block records, and bans to show for it). So, I did about two minutes' worth of research and discovered that Oriole85's account was created / his edits began on November 5, 2013. When was the last edit by Levineps? November 4, 2013. That is not a coincidence IMO. I don't have (a) the time right now, nor (b) the motivation to formally open an SPI, but I'm hoping that one of the many people I'm notifying about this does. If you're wondering why you're being pinged about this, it's because I saw where you were one of the people who has left messages on Levineps' talk page at some point regarding his inappropriate editing. So now, in addition to all of the aforementioned issues with Levineps, it looks like a probably sockpuppet to throw into the mix. ] (]) 05:32, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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			==DYK for Adelia Armstrong Lutz==
	Regarding , this isn't the first time . What I don't like about him is, other than poking fun at my name, him claiming that he's always correct when in fact he isn't. ] (]) 08:05, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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	:I requested a name change, so hopefully this can stop him from making fun of my name. Also, I personally believe that ] ] ] might need weeks of semi protection if the editor continues to edit war. As per the edit history, he has been claiming that Uni will air LPA in the afternoon (no source to provide that at all), and QPTR at 7pm. While Uni did confirm QPTR (source can be found in the article), "Muy pronto" is NOT the same as "7pm/6c" (again, false and still unsourced). I hope this helps. ] (]) 20:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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	::All of us will just have to watch what happens next -- and take appropriate action when needed. --] (]) 04:49, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
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			] 21:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
			I'm bothered by this post of yours too. You accuse of someone of using multiple accounts. Where's your proof and why haven't you started an SPI? Didn't I hear someone not too long ago say 'serious allegations require serious evidence'?] 22:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
	As a subscriber to one of ]'s programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this Thanks and cheers, ]<sup> ]&#124;]</sup> 15:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
			::It's not sockpuppetry when the ] is not currently blocked and is not currently in use. But I know a ] when I see one, especially with all the IP ducks we've seen. --] (]) 03:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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	I don't know if you saw or not, but I think maybe I'm not communicating what the ] script does well enough. You've asked for a method of finding the one or two untagged/unassessed/NRIS-only articles in a large county of 100+, and that is exactly what this script does. If you add
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	I see that you haven't added this script to any of your javascript files, so maybe if I'm still failing to explain the script properly, just add it there and see first-hand what I'm talking about. I wouldn't dream of going through an entire county just searching for a few articles.. this script reduces the time it takes to "clean up" the county drastically. Let me know if you have any trouble with it, though, or if this really isn't what you wanted. Sorry for the confusion.--] (]) 12:15, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
	:Thanks! I totally missed the mouse-over function. --] (]) 21:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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			:::I'm campaigning against you now. That and your link above are possible proof of you violating ] You still ignore ]. For the second time, explain how a wedding announcement and miscarriage are trivia and helping in a campaign and who somebody supports for President isn't? Maybe I should be preparing an ANI post when I get up in the morning.] 03:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
	== Doctor's Building ==
			:::The article is supposed to be about a television show. What has happened to these people since the show went off the air isn't relevant to the show. Stars on tv shows, marry divorce have kids etc. after their show goes off the air, but it isn't in the article on the show. Take ] for just one example. A biography article on the Bates is where it would belong. If its RSd. FWIW Musdan77 thanked me for cutting the trivia and other things out of the article.] 04:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
	Thanks for the pagemove and disambiguation; I had no clue there was another article with functionally the same title. Are you sure that "Doctor's Building" is the right title here? The description on the page from the ''Nashville Tennessean'' makes me suspect that it should be Doctors', i.e. it's a typo and the page should have the same title (other than disambiguation) as the Cincinnati building. ] (]) 03:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
	:Understood, and thank you. Had it been anyone else, I would have assumed that they were going around doing this kind of housekeeping, but since you're in Tennessee, I thought you were perhaps just working on some in-state project. ] (]) 22:35, 12 December 2013 (UTC)		::::::FTR, the edit that Musdan77 thanked you for was an edit whose main effect was to revert one of the edits in which DC788 had added a lot of the trivia that DC788 had been adding -- and I had been deleting -- over a period of several days. --] (]) 01:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
			::::Nothing new about you campaigning against me. You already declared your intention to follow my work looking for actions that you could attack me for. I refer in particular to your statement that {{tq| I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!}}
			::::As for the article, I as an article about the family (who are local to my county) before the TV series existed, but after the '''family''' seemed to have established notability due to their appearances on another reality TV show. Someone else later recast it as an article about the show. Many of my edits to the article have been aimed at removing unsourced personal details about family members that were added by fans; I've also sparred with this particular user, who has unusual theories about the need for reference citations to describe TV shows, and who believes that information that possibly could be extracted from studying a table should not be presented in text. As for the family, the family continues to receive a lot of attention (partly because continues to appear on that other reality TV show) and family members have been taking advantage of their reality-TV fame for political activities, including their widely documented support for Rick Santorum. The marriage has been in the article for some time, but enthusiasts keep trying to add redundant statements about it, accompanied by information about blog "announcements" of positive pregnancy tests and subsequent miscarriages. I continue to contend that even though a 22-year-old woman announces a miscarriage during the first 3 months of pregnancy in her family blog, that is still a bit of fundamentally private information that does not deserve to be preserved in an encyclopedia; apparently the other user agrees, as they also stopped adding that detail. --] (]) 12:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::::Undoing editor's work when they don't follow ] is something I do.(Not counting UBOA, at least 7 times in my last 5,000 edits) I've written about the use of blogs as sources on my user page. Your failure at that, ] aka responding to my concerns with a link to CNN story about sadistic trolls, ] ignoring multiple times my concerns with your edits, and ] is appalling. Your contradictory behavior at ] raises ] concerns or questions whether you're practicing ]. Example- You have labelled the same source both not a RS and yourself used it as a source. I'm practicing WP policy but you think its a campaign against you. The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing.] 13:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
	== Kafziel arbitration case opened ==
			::::::When you declared {{tq| I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!}}, you clearly indicated why you are now scrutinizing me. This isn't random interest on your part.
			::::::As for your accusation of contradictory behavior, I believe you are confusing me with someone else. On what basis did you determine that I was responsible for that second diff of yours? That edit was by IP user 38.108.87.20. As it happens, that's one of the IPs used by the person who is currently editing as DC788. --] (]) 15:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::::::You're really very paranoid. I'm fixing wrong edits but you think its malicious. As I said above 'The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing.'] 22:58, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
	You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at ]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at ]. '''Please add your evidence by December 29, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, ]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see ]. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 22:33, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
			::::::::If you don't want people to assume that your actions are motivated by personal animus, I suggest that you stop making statements like and . --] (]) 02:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::::::::Was this edit not out of personal animus or was it due to total incompetence? I can cite at least three times, here's one of them and here's another where you were told your actions were wrong. Whether your answer is A or B, you shouldn't be an administrator. Resign before you once again bring disgrace to Misplaced Pages or cause harm to someone who didn't do anything to deserve it. Your block of me was overturned because you were dead wrong and you can't admit it. In the meantime I will continue to make sure youf and no other administrator does to some other editor what you did to me. There is nothing wrong with that kind of scrutiny either. Sphilbrick said I didn't have to shut up when he unblocked me. When I am checking on you, if I see articles you worked on that can use further work, I'll continue doing that.] 22:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
	== Sam & Cat ==
	"Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Sam & Cat. This contravenes Misplaced Pages's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Please heed the note that advises contributors "Don't add Cameron Ocasio unless and until there is reliably sourced official announcement." Orlady (talk) 04:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)"
	Funny.. cuz I was right. And how was Glozell allowed to slide? She was listed as a cast member which was totally untrue, she lied about it. ] (]) 05:02, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
			== Quick WP:RDH-style question ==
	== ] ==
			Thanks for the comment at my talk. On a totally unrelated matter, as you've probably guessed if you've looked at my latest series of major edits to NR lists, I'm planning another photo trip, which will take me almost through your neck of the woods as well as through ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]. As far as you're aware right now, are there any big construction projects (or other plannable things, versus problems like car accidents) on I-75 between Chattanooga and Knoxville? The goal is to go to church in Dayton on the morning of the 20th and then go a little past the Cumberland Gap that afternoon; I especially don't feel like getting stuck in a traffic jam if it's something that all the locals (and semi-locals like you) already know about. ] (]) 02:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
	Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this one, as it requires a good judge of what is appropriate for the main page and what is not. The reviewer had concerns about it being on the main page, and I trust your opinion on whether these are justified or not. It's also an older nom, and it would be nice to get this settled, or at least moving toward a resolution. Many thanks. ] (]) 20:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
			:That's an ambitious plan for a 3-day road trip! (I hope you're planning on a bit longer than 3 days, if you want to cover that much territory and take pictures, too.)
			:I haven't been to Chattanooga recently, so I'm not aware of any construction on I-75 in that direction. The Tennessee DOT website is a fairly good source of info on roadwork on the Interstates, though. Anyway, if you want to go to Dayton, you probably are going to be away from I-75 for a substantial part of your trip. US 27 and state route 58 are a lot more interesting than I-75.
			:There is a major construction project on I-640 in Knoxville that is causing traffic delays, particularly during rush hour. That's relevant to you because I-75 is concurrent with the western leg of I-640 (I-640W), but I believe that the current construction is on I-640E. Anyway, if you are on a photo trip, your route north from Knoxville to Cumberland Gap might not include I-75.
			:When traveling in this area, you need to be aware that the ridges and valleys trend SW-NE. Travel across the grain of the topography (for example, on roads like US 25-E) can be slower than the linear distance suggests it should be, but it's often interesting. --] (]) 03:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
			::Thanks for the response! I hadn't at all thought of checking the TDOT website, and now that you suggested it, I've found their helpful . I'll definitely remember your comment about the across-the-ridge driving — with , all my hill-country driving has been in places like southern Indiana, where the ridges go in random directions, so no direction is naturally simpler or quicker than others. I've got a campsite reservation at ] on Friday night, Saturday I'll work my way to Dayton by way of MS/AL/GA/SC/NC (my parents have friends there, so I'll be indoors one night), another campsite reservation in Harlan County KY on Sunday night, and then north to Ohio to visit family for a week. Definitely not trying to get Indiana-style dense photo coverage or making long detours anywhere on this trip (except for the occasional county with just one or two sites), so the goal is to get ''something'' in six states that I've not visited in a long time (]), and at least one site in almost every county through which I pass. Re your comment about "might not include I-75", I'm looking to go east to Athens and then northeast, and it was a debate between going interstate (and getting off for photos) or just staying on US11 until hopping on the interstate at Lenoir City and taking it as far as northern Knoxville's US441 exit, then state highways toward US25E at ]. I guess I'll stay on I-40 through downtown Knoxville and skip the beltway. ] (]) 04:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::I-40 through Knoxville lacks charm, but you will get a glimpse of the ]. --] (]) 20:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
			== Access to deleted version of an article? ==
	:Orlady, thank you so much for looking it over. I think it's back to you now, after the comment by the nominator, as to whether it should be withdrawn or not. Thanks. ] (]) 00:36, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
			Dear Orlady, assuming you're still active in the category of "Misplaced Pages administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles," could I inquire if there's a way to see the version of ] that was deleted in 2008, according to ]? I'm working on the current version of the article, whose history started in 2009 -- and for comparison I'd be very interested to see the article's previous incarnation that disappeared in 2008. Thanks very much for your help, or if you can point me in the right direction. -] (]) 04:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
	== Holiday Cheer ==
			:<small>You've been talkpagestalking at my talkpage, so I might as well return the favor :-)</small> Patrug, the entire contents were as follows:<blockquote>Alexander McCurdy was an acclaimed organ teacher at Philadelphia's ] and was also organist of the city's First Presbyterian Church. Among his many notable students are Michael Stairs, ] and John Binsfeld.</blockquote>It was deleted under ], and it was definitely a good candidate. ] (]) 04:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
			::Got it -- thanks for the quick response! ] (]) 06:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
			== A barnstar for you ==
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			:Thank you for the recognition. Meanwhile, I congratulate you on the article! --] (]) 20:45, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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	== Tagging NRIS-only articles ==		== Thank you! ==
			Orlady, thank you for reviewing and editing the article for Diamond Ranch Academy! I forgot to mention this in my initial comment on the talk page, but there are also two words in the top section that the past editor added without providing adequate citation. I'm wondering if you could look into this as well? These are the words "misdemeanors" and "felonies" in the first section.
	In reviewing the most recent run of the bot to tag NRIS-only articles, I saw several articles where you placed the NRIS-only tag manually, and the bot removed it (I'm too lazy to find/link the articles, but look at the bot's contributions if those pages are no longer on your watchlist). This is not the first time this has happened, and I fear you don't understand how the bot works. You can't just tag any article with {{tl|NRIS-only}} and expect the template to stay there. If there is more than one unique reference on the page in the form of an inline citation, the bot will think that article is no longer NRIS-only and remove the tag. Period. That means that even an article which uses NRISref and also cites, say, the Focus database or NRHP.com–even though we humans recognize these as NRIS mirrors–is counted as having multiple sources. You've tagged a few articles which fall into this category. The best thing I can tell you to do for these cases is to either fix the article yourself by adding an ''actual'' second (or third or fourth..) source to the article or to remove the NRIS mirror and leave only NRISref as the sole source so that the bot won't untag it. If you don't do one of these things, the bot will continue to remove your tags, and you'll be doing work for naught.--] (]) 08:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
			Thank you for all of you help! <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I think you are referring to the tag I added on ]. I fixed it by removing the nonworking linking to NPS Focus. --] (]) 22:16, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
	::There was also ]. I didn't take the time to find the ones from previous runs I came across, though. Maybe they've been fixed now.--] (]) 22:29, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
			== Charles I. Barber - See Also ==
	== Cold? ==
			Well, color me corrected. I don't quite see the point of omitting relevant links while maintaining lists of marginally-related ones, but it does tell me here that it a general rule not to include in a "see also" something that is otherwise referenced in the article. . Who knew? :) Well, I suppose I ought to... I'd still make the case for including his father in this list, since when he appears in the article, it's basically ''as'' his father. The rest of the "See Also" list is so marginally related as to be slightly wacky - not at all related by facts, only partially related by chronology, and only tenuously related by topic. The topic, obviously, is "other architects who have lived in Knoxville at any point in time in their lives," but out of a list of hundreds of people who would fit that bill, being that there are four who have existing Misplaced Pages articles, excluding one because he happens to be Charles' father certainly, to my mind, muddles whatever the purpose of the list actually is. I'd argue, contrarily, that ] would encourage leaving him there. ] (]) 20:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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			:Rather than adding bloat to the See also section, I suggest that the article could be developed so that (1) it contains more content about his connection to his father and the rest of the family and (2) any items on the "see also" list that are actually relevant to this article are linked within the text of the article. --] (]) 20:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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			::Orlady is right. Per ], the section should not contain links to other articles that are already linked to in either the article or any navbox that is in the article.] 13:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
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	|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) ] (]) 12:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC)		:::] does state that "as a general rule". There are situations where a redundant see also link is appropriate, but those situations are not common. --] (]) 13:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
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			==DYK for Ladies Rest Room==
	It's been unusually warm here today, but you can bet it's warmer where you are! Thanks for the good wishes. --] (]) 22:03, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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			== Rich Farmbrough case clarified ==
	== Ed Westcott ==
	Were you going to take this article to GA? It looks good enough. ] (]) 05:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
			The arbitration clarification request, either involving you, or in which you participated (Rich Farmbrough) has resulted in a clarification motion by the Arbitration Committee
	== ] ==
			The Clarification can be found at ] and the complete discussion can be found at ] For the Arbitration Committee,--]] 16:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
	Orlady, I was wondering whether you would be able to take a look at this one. The nominator and reviewer appear to be at loggerheads both on the nomination and talk pages. As I'm not at all sure the X icon is warranted, I don't want this closed until someone with good DYK experience and with a good sense of article scope has taken a look. Many thanks; I hope you had a great holiday and will have a wonderful New Year. ] (]) 00:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
	== European University ==		== Here again ==
	Hi Orlady:		Dear Orlady,
			I know I might be asking too much from you now a days, still I like the way you paint an article. Will u please pen through ] at least for once? I know it might not be a topic you are expert on, but I need some wiki expert who would shape it as a better wiki-article.] (]) 14:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
	Sorry, didn't mean to override, but I amended your edit on the comment noting ACBSP's purview as a programmatic accreditor. I felt that it was over emphasizing an established fact, as relevant links would provide the information. Hope my edit is okay, and that you are agreeable. Thanks. By the way, Season's Greetings!.. ] (]) 13:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
			==DYK for Fruitvale, Tennessee==
	:: Hi Orlady! As written to Auditguy on his talk page, i left my comments about this section in the page's talk page. Please do advise if you think that is irrelevant. All the best ] (]) 15:39, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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			==DYK for Emerson Etheridge==
	::::I've replied at ]. --] (]) 18:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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			== ABMS Open University ==
	:::::Hello Orlady, Thanks for the review and revised edits on European University! ] (]) 01:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
			Hi Orlady,
	* Hello Orlady, The IACBE accreditation of business programs covers both the Swiss Campuses, not just Geneva. They indicate this as "European University - Switzerland". Is it Okay to reflect it as such? ] (]) 02:58, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
	::Hi Orlady, if you can get around to this, I would appreciate your input. Thanks. ] (]) 12:04, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
			This entry for Open University of Switzerland has reappeared in a different form ]. This was deleted after AFD earlier this year. How does one proceed with this, recommend a PROD? ] (]) 10:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
	== Next time you're at WP DYK ==
			:I deleted it as a recreation of an article deleted by AFD. --] (]) 15:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			but the article was made before as an advertisments, now i made just simple article. NO REASON TO DELETE --] (]) 17:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			I am working there and if somebody wrote an article which was full of advertisments and unclear informations and you deleted doesnt mean you allowed to Delete any article written about ABMS GmbH, OTHERWISE we will Prosecute WIKIPEDIA if this unnecessary jokes stop now --] (]) 17:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			:The article was deleted based on ]. The advertorial style was not the main reason for deletion. The article was deleted because there were no ] to indicate ] of the topic or to provide ] content for the article. If the only issue had been advertisement-like writing style, it could have been rewritten, but that was not the main issue. --] (]) 18:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			::But Sorry we are new online business School in Switzerland how can you expect to see informations about us everywhere? check our website, you welcome to call us, and if in the article i wrote was anything unclear than please tell me, but just deleting because you didnt find enough sources, its normal because we are new, if you keep deleting than we must Prosecute as person and Misplaced Pages --] (]) 18:16, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::Perhaps you are misunderstanding the purpose and scope of Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages is not a platform for announcing or publicizing new organizations. Encyclopedia content must be based on content that has already been published somewhere else by ] independent of the article's subject. Please see ] and ] for more information. --] (]) 18:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::: but sorry i can show you 1 million article on wikipedia and dont have ] and sorry you can find about us on Governments and other website like , and many other websites, i can list 100 websites well known for education. tell me what is the solution now? can i write a normal article with ] about or school OR we not allowed to write about our organization on Misplaced Pages because you decided we are not ]? we need to know what to tell our lawyer when we start the case against you. thank you --] (]) 18:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			::::: should i make another article with ] like Governments website, QS... and than you have look on it, if OK tell me and keep it, and hope to solve this problem without going to court, because it will be just headache for both of us but if court is the only solution for us to be on wikipedia than we will do it. I am trying here to find a solution, i hope you too. please tell me should i create new article or no. thank you --] (]) 19:06, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			:::::: I believe that the sources you mention are not reliable sources for purposes of Misplaced Pages. A new article based on those sources would be subject to deletion based on the conclusion of ]. If you believe that the conclusion of that discussion was incorrect, I suggest that you contact the administrator who closed the discussion (write to him at ]). --] (]) 19:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			::::::: A Governments website is not ] thats new to hear... for sure now you tell me to contact somebody else --] (]) 19:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			::::::::The government website indicates only that this institution is a registered business. That information does not indicate ] and it is not a sufficient basis for writing an article.
			::::::::I will explain why I suggested that you contact ]. It is becoming clear that you will not accept what I am telling you. That means that your next step is to ask for a formal reconsideration of the deletion decision. The ] says that your first step should be to contact the administrator who deleted the article. --] (]) 19:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
			::::::::By the way, earlier you said you would prosecute Misplaced Pages for refusing to include this article. That is not a good way to convince other Misplaced Pages users to do something. In fact, ] can cause your editing access to be blocked. --] (]) 19:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
	] - the policy of how to handle the DYK templates on these could use some input either direction from whoever is around today. ] (]) 20:30, 28 December 2013 (UTC)		*Hi Orlady, ] article has now been created in place of ABMS Open University. It still lacks sources, and in my opinion continues not to be notable. I was wondering - were you contacted prior to its write up? ] (]) 12:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
			::I have deleted that article as a recreation of an article deleted earlier by XfD. I was unaware of it before seeing your message. --] (]) 22:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::Noted. Thanks. ] (]) 12:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
	== ] ==		== A kitten for you! ==
			]
	Hi Orlady, I've done some clean up of the source links. Could you please have a look and see if it's ok to remove the ] template? Thanks. ] (]) 03:16, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
			Many thanks for expanding the ] article. It was on Nyttend's Zipcode Directory and I started the article with help from The Catalyst31. Again my thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.
			] (]) 22:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
	== Hardin Valley, TN ==
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			== Sockpuppet investigation ==
	Hi, Orlady. I found something you may want to take a look at, in ] it lists Hardin Valley in Knox County a CDP in which i don't belive it is. --] (]) 19:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
	:Invalid edit by an IP. I fixed it. Glad you caught it! --] (]) 19:31, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
	:Also ] would you be willing to help me Create an article on Hardin Valley community? --] (]) 15:54, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
	::Sorry, but no, I won't help you. I don't believe that "Hardin Valley community" is a ] place that deserves to be documented in a Misplaced Pages article. --] (]) 17:13, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
	:::However, you might be interested in creating ] for the high school in that area. High schools are generally presumed to be notable (although notability still needs to be demonstrated by citing sources), and that particular school does not yet have an article. Related articles exist at ] and ]. --] (]) 17:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
	::::Ok I will look in to that and plus GNIS doesn't list it as Populated place. --] (]) 17:52, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
			I was suspicious of that myself, but I didn't have the time to go through with the bureaucratic bits today; thanks for looking into it. You also might want to look into A1Houseboy, who has a similar pattern of editing (and is tied to ). ] <sup>]•]</sup> 04:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			:I had looked at that user briefly, but clearly I should have looked more closely. The recent edit on your talk page clinched it for me. I blocked that user temporarily and added the user name to the SPI case. --] (]) 04:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Orlady, can I ask you to please take a look at this review? You have an excellent sense of when an article needs more coverage even though it's above the minimum 1500 prose characters, and the original reviewer and I differ on this particular issue. It would be very helpful to have someone of your experience to express an opinion; I'm certainly prepared to take my lumps if I'm wrong. (The only reason I intervened was that I was looking for a hook to promote, but felt I couldn't promote the hook with the article as it was.) The hook sourcing issue is not the issue at hand here, though it does (as I have noted) need fixing. Many thanks. ] (]) 17:19, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
			Orlady, given your issues with the earlier versions of this article, I was hoping you could stop by and check the finished version to see whether it now meets DYK standards. If you're not interested in reviewing it again, let me know here and I'll put the "again" icon on it. Thanks. ] (]) 13:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
	== New England Misplaced Pages Day @ MIT: Saturday Jan 18 ==
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			Hi! Please don't pipe intentional disambiguation links - the "(disambiguation)" needs to be in the link itself to keep the page from showing up as an error. Cheers! ] ] 21:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
	Dear Fellow Wikimedian,
			:The real issue should be with the person who created those disambiguation pages back in 2008 and didn't bother to interlink ] and ], but never mind that... --] (]) 00:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Charles Inman==
	You have been invited to the ] ''']''' at Building Five on the ] campus on Saturday, January 18th, from 3-5 PM. Afterwards, we will be holding an informal dinner at a local restaurant. If you are curious to join us, please do so, as we are always looking for people to come and give their opinion! Finally, be sure to ''']''' if you're interested.
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			== Page Edits ] ==
			Orlady,
			Thank you for posting your explanation with your edits. While the institution is not accredited through an external agency, the references to the U.S. Armed Services warning about diploma mills is not relevant in this situation. Hyles-Anderson College is approved for for VA Benefits through the Indiana Commission for Postsecondary Proprietary Education. The four warnings listed in the linked reference page do not apply:<br /> <ul><li>The school does not require studying, tests or essays.</li> <li>The school boasts of accreditation, i.e., “fully, nationally or worldwide accredited,” but has no legitimate accreditation.</li> <li>The school relies on “portfolio assessments” or “life experience.”</li> <li>The school advertises through e-mail messages sent to millions.</li></ul>
			The reference cited in regard to public schools not accepting unnacredited degrees is a broken link (http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos069.htm#training) and gives a blanket statement that does not give a true representation of the degree programs offered.
			] (]) 15:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
			== Category: People from Kingsport, Tennessee ==
			In this edit of yours you removed the category 'People from Washington County, Tennessee'. I am relinking 'People from Kingsport, Tennessee' to that category because that city is partially in Washington County. Consensus is that if a 'People from' city category is even a slightest bit in multiple counties, it gets categorized in all of them. Please note 'People from Johnson City, Tennessee' and how its categorized in three 'People from' county categories though most of the city lies in Washington County.] 18:57, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
			::Thank you for taking the time to lecture me about an edit I made over 4 years ago. I suppose you find it gratifying to take me to task for every mistake I ever made.
			::As it happens, I didn't even make the mistake you accuse me of. If you read the history, you will see the category had been configured to include all people from any part of a 4-county area as "people from Kingsport." My edit changed the category description to indicate that it is only for people from Kingsport, and not also people from places like Bristol, Virginia, and I removed it from inappropriate categories like ] and ]. Contrary to your allegations here, I didn't remove it from ] -- because it wasn't previously in that category. --] (]) 16:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
			==Assistance==
			I noticed that you were instrumental in creating the page on Betty Bumpers, also with the information on Peace Links. I just had a page sanitized concerning an event that Betty and Peace Links were involved with a number of years ago. I was wondering if you would consider being of some assistance to getting some information restored and a image. Thank you ] (]) 22:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
			==Did you Know?==
			I addressed your concerns on the DYK for ] at ''']'''. Please see if it looks ok to you now. -- ] (]) 20:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
			::I've looked at the changes, and I've not replied because I'm not sure what I think. --] (]) 03:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic District==
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	== Carnegie Library at Fisk ==
			Hello Orlady. I recall the good work you did on the Hillsdale College article, which included a lot of primary sourced description and other text. I wonder whether you could have a look at the ] article, on which several editors have expressed concerns about the sourcing. Any participation there would be appreciated. Thanks. ]] 03:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
	Grr. you're right. The pic I took was of the building on the other side of the quad (see the two in the Birdseye view ). ] (]) 09:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
	==Category:Baptists in the United States==
			== Nuts and bolts, but mostly nuts ==
	''']''', which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. —]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 22:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
			Re a posting by me that you responded to. I just want you to know my comment was not meant as a slip-up on your part, but a comment on mine. I think our nerves are a little edgy these days. ] does that. I've not nominated anything since the gang blew into town. It's just too unpleasant to think about. Not that there isn't room for betterment straight across WP. But that's getting lost behind ]. I realize you have been targeted lately. As has everybody, it seems, who dares to breathe and exist on the planet. Some sure know how to suck the joy right out of the room, but you would not be one of those. Didn't want any misunderstanding coming from me. ] (]) 19:03, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
	== Hope you're around and can fix ] in the next 15 minutes ==
			:Thanks for explaining your words. I must say that I was perplexed by what seemed like negativity from you. I'm sorry that I responded as I did. My nerves are most definitely on edge these days whenever I go near DYK. This too shall pass, I hope... --] (]) 19:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
			::So we're cool with each other now. I enjoy running across your work now and then over in the "greenest state in the land of the free", over in Davy's stomping grounds. ] (]) 19:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
			:::Ah, yes, that interesting man who much preferred to be "David", but apparently is "Davy" forevermore. After you created the category recently, I was pleased to help populate it... --] (]) 19:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
			::::I think I made an initial comment on the TN project that it would be good to see that article as FA. And it would. However, since I made that comment, I've had a small experience on the Featured level: ], ], ] and a ], with the intent of reaching ]. None of which I started out to do with my first cleaning up of references tagging on the original article. A learning curve, to be sure. And a learning curve that makes me realize that even if I had every resource ever published, I could never get ] past the first hurdles. But I can dream that someone else can. ] (]) 19:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
			:::::On the whole, I'd rather work on creating "good enough" content than on collecting "credits" from GA, FA, etc. I did shepherd a couple of lists through FL a long time ago, and I did a number of FLC reviews. I learned a good bit from that experience. I also have done a very wee bit of GA reviewing, and I had a small role in supporting Hawkeye7's eff ort that got ] promoted to FA. That article had been subject to a good bit of edit warring before the FA campaign, and since then it's been pretty stable. If you ever get the courage to attempt something similar for Davy, maybe it would put an end to the battles over his death. Or maybe not... --] (]) 20:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
			::::::I've been working 18 months on Audie Murphy. What started out as one poorly written article has now become six separate articles/lists on him personally, plus one about his book, and two others about a museum and hospital named for him. Who would have known? Sources on Murphy are limited. It's not at the end of the line yet. It taught me a great deal about editing at WP and how a really-properly formatted article should be. I owe a lot to the folks at ] for that. I can see separate articles on Crockett, for his Congressional career and for his death. Way more sources to pour through on him than Murphy.
			::::::Re Crockett's death, I prefer to believe the people who were actually inside the Alamo and attest to where he died. Even if we AGF that de la Peña told it as he believed it to be...how did he identify who was who? No photo IDs in those days. Probably didn't have their names sewn into their underwear. We don't to this day know 100% who was inside the mission, so they didn't have a list of names. What was to stop somebody from claiming to be celebrity David Crockett in hopes of being given preferential treatment? I did see Discovery channel MythBusters on this. I believe they said de la Peña's diary was written by different people over different periods of time. However...as we are living through right now...there are those among us who want to keep an argument going just to feel important. ] (]) 21:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
	Orlady, I noticed that you were working on {{prep|3}}, and I'm hoping you can fix {{queue|4}} before it posts at the top of the hour.
			== Please help me ==
	For some reason, the entire set of DYKmake and DYKnoms is wrong: it's from a prior set. I've posted the correct set at ], so it should be a fairly quick fix. If you see this and can do it in time, many thanks! ] (]) 15:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
			I cannot fix (gover'''n'''ment) and I noticed that someone wrote stuff like:
	:It looks like we lucked out: passing admins and pingers galore got the job done. As long as I'm posting this, I thought I'd mention I've just replied to you on ] to ask you what the next step on this nomination should be, since you're most familiar with the state of the article and whether it's main-pageable in its current state. Please let me know there. Many thanks. ] (]) 16:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
			"The Council are having to sell off assets because for two decades their chief executives for some reason best known to themselves were not aware that women were being underpaid, and this initiated a flood of claims from other employees past and present with crippling results to Birmingham's prestige as the Second City. Liam Bryne the Labour MP for Hodge Hill has so far failed to support residents in their fight to have these sub-standard and dangerous blocks bulldozed."
	== ] ==
			on the ] article but I am unsure what to do. ] (]) 03:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
	Hi, you promoted this, despite {{U|PFHLai}}'s reasonable suggestion that the hook is kept until Valentine's day. Would it be possible to keep it until then? Thanks, ]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>] 19:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
	:I thought the idea of saving it for Valentine's Day was lame. Few people over the age of 11 would see an interesting Valentine's Day connection in the fact that a businessman has the name "Loveman". --] (]) 19:18, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
	::I thought it would be nice to have the word "Love" show up a few more times on MainPage that day, regardless of the article it links to. But never mind. Anyway, please consider the use of ALT1 instead of the (boring) original hook. Thanks. --] (]) 10:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
			::Thank you for your efforts to correct misspellings of "government." That's a good way to get started as an editor of Misplaced Pages.
	== University help requested ==
			::You couldn't correct the typo in ] because that article is protected from editing by newly registered users -- a restriction that helps prevent the frequent addition of opinionated rhetoric, like the content you found at ].
			::I fixed the problems you detected in both articles, and I added a comment at ]. --] (]) 03:33, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
			:::Thanks a lot for your help! I may have to declare war on goverment. ] (]) 23:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
			::::Sorry for bothering you again but I found more "opinionated rhetoric" . I started by fixing the typo, but then I reverted back to Dual Freq's version. The IP is blocked now but I am not sure if the should be reverted. Thanks again, ] (]) 02:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
			:::::That last edit was OK. The content that was deleted didn't belong in an encyclopedia article. See ] and ] for perspective on the Misplaced Pages policies that indicate why that content didn't belong here. --] (]) 13:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
			== '']'' DYK ==
	Just curious: could you point me to an ideal university article? All of the FA university articles I've checked were promoted years ago, and they generally seem to have problems that would never be accepted by FAC/FAR today. I've today been emailed by someone from ] (the person in question knows the Wikipedian in Residence at ], whom I've met) who wants to update the school's article while respecting COI and other project standards. The person in question has text that their marketing director wrote and wants advice and COI-obeying assistance in getting the article improved; I'm trying and failing to find a great university article that I could use to demonstrate how the marketing director's text doesn't match the way we write. As far as I know, the person who emailed me doesn't have an account; I'm going to do my best to assist in account creation if asked, of course minding WP:OUTING and other standards. ] (]) 03:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
			Would I be safe in assuming that there's no longer any chance for ]? I'm new to Did you know, so I don't know how this works. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 00:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
	==DYK for McKissack & McKissack==
			::No worries. We are waiting for a new reviewer to appear at ] and evaluate the hook that I suggested. I expect that the hook will be approved, but I can't approve it because I wrote it. --] (]) 00:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
			:::*Okay. Thanks for the reply! ] <small>(] • ])</small> 13:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Argentine quota law==
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			== ] ==
	== Categorisation of Anglican priests: RFC as followup to CFD ==
			Hello Orlady, your name came up in the history of the page so I figured I will approach you with this problem. The above linked article was stable for a number of years with the name ]. An editor came along moved it three times in one day and finally decided on the name above. This is obviously a controversial move and this should have gone through the process at ]. It can only be moved back by an administrator which is why I come to your talk page. Can you please move it back so the stable name so that any proposal should go through the proper process required for such non-technical moves. Many thanks, --'']] ]'' 05:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
	You contributed to the debate at ], which I have closed today as "no consensus". <small>(This notice is being sent all participants in that debate.)</small>
			==DYK for Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee)==
	Apart from the disagreement in that particular case, there seemed to be no broader agreement on how to categorise of Anglican priests. So I have opened a ] discussion about it, at ''']''', where your contribution would be welcome. --] <small>] • (])</small> 14:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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	==DYK for Bethesda Presbyterian Church (Russellville, Tennessee)==		==DYK for George A. Dickel==
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			== July 2014 ==
	== ] ==
			] Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very ], so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. ''For your less mature editor comment at User talk:EEng.'' <!-- Template:uw-npa1 --> ] 13:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
			::How lovely to know that against me, ]. The folks who created Wikilove will surely be gratified to see the tool being used for ]. --] (]) 14:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Orlady, there is a response to your latest comments on this nomination. ] (]) 01:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
	:<nowiki>*drools in full aviation fanboy mode*</nowiki> --] 03:56, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
	::Feel free to weigh in on this one, fanboy! --] (]) 05:27, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
			Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this. The article was apparently expanded by banned user Russavia using an IP, and probably using a different IP to intervene in the DYK discussion. It's been sitting for 19 days; I'd like to get it broken free by an admin who better understands the issues around banned users, since I can remember some instances of nominations getting closed and some where they were preserved (though that difference might be due to self-nominations not surviving, while noms by others were retained). Thanks for anything you can do here; if you'd rather not weigh in, I'll see who else might be willing to do so. ] (]) 04:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
	== Valley View DYK ==
	Good morning Orlady, I know it would be a bit of an inconvenience, but would it be possible to pull ] from the Prep 2 queue and return it to the nominations page? I'm still working to locate an image for the hook, and forgot to note this on the article's nomination template. (I know this is especially grievous given the incident with my image for ]). If this is possible, I'd greatly appreciate it, and I apologize for the trouble. I'll cross post this request with other DYK administrators. Thanks again! -- ] (]) 10:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
	==DYK for Kerala Soil Museum==		==DYK for Bemis, Tennessee==
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			== NPOV issue on Kevin Huffman page ==
	==DYK for Violence against doctors in China==
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			Hi, orlady. Since you have edited this page in the past, I wanted to let you know that there is a NPOV issue on the latest revision to the Kevin Huffman page. It was made by Sallysuzzi at 04:34, 23 July 2014.
	== TN question ==
			The added text is as follows:
	So I'm hoping to make a long day trip to Nashville on Monday in order to get NR photos, and of course I have to stop along the way to get photos in smaller communities. Some spots on the ] have unclear locations, and Google has been thoroughly unhelpful. Do you know of anything from the state government that could help, beyond what's at ]? I tried checking Focus for the biggest problem, the Mansfield Cheatham House in Springfield, but they don't have anything digitised. ] (]) 16:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
	:As you've observed, NPS Focus doesn't have any Tennessee content online except for Multiple Property Submissions, and even a lot of those links are broken. The state historian's office posts new listings on , but they have an annoying habit of taking the content offline as soon as they post the next set of new listings. Many times I've reached a total dead end when I've tried to dig up decent info about one of those notorious NRHP sub-stubs.
	:I've never been to Robertson County (other than driving through on the Interstate once or twice), so I can't supply any local knowledge. There don't seem to be any active Misplaced Pages contributors from that area, either. There are (or have been) several active contributors in Nashville, but they haven't done much of any work on Robertson County topics.
	:As for the Mansfield Cheatham House, I found it on Google Maps using the lat-long on the county list. It seems to be a large estate in town in Springfield; the house is set a good distance back from the street. My searches indicate that the house is associated with one or more members of the 19th century Cheatham family, which was prominent in Springfield (see ], which I created a few hours ago). I'll see if I can find out anything more about it. On the whole, Springfield looks like it could be a productive destination for photographing historic properties. --] (]) 20:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
	::Thank you for the comments. WP:NRHP help mentions the annoying habit, but as the link is broken, I wondered if they might have changed their procedures. I'm trying for 9 of the 26 sites (the rest are way too scattered to justify detours from my main route) so I was trying to confirm locations lest I print maps with bad coords. After I left you this note, I went around on Street View and found what I believe to be the house — NRIS coords placed it on Fifth, rather than the Seventh given in the address line — but I wasn't completely confident, so I appreciate your confirmation of it. And I can definitely sympathise on the absence of sources — Ohio's presence is among the weakest, and although I have a good printed guide to NR locations statewide, a lot's been listed since it was published, and they're missing some sites that were listed before publication. Of course, I can often get documents from other sources, but not always; the ] is missing from the NR guide and from my copy of ''Ohio's Covered Bridges''. Perhaps I'll be able to expand it, though; I just now went looking for the county history on Google that wasn't digitised, in order to make my point more strongly, and to my surprise . Does Tennessee have good county histories of this sort? I've become heavily reliant on them for Ohio. ] (]) 21:13, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::The ] can be a good source. I've found the Google Book '''' useful for some topics in that part of the state; I recommend that you look at it before your trip (it provides driving directions, although they are often sort of vague, and the section that starts on page 49 covers Montgomery and Robertson counties). The Tennessee Department of Tourism has some good historical information on its websites. Check out http://tntrailsandbyways.com/ for their tourism "trails" around Nashville; there are also some Civil War sites in the area you will be traversing that would be included on their Civil War page at http://www.tnvacation.com/civil-war/places/trail-markers/ . (You can never guess what will turn out to be a Civil War site. Recently I managed to take a about a church up to ] after discovering that the church was a military hospital during the Civil War.) Most or all Tennessee counties have a "Goodspeed's History", written in the late 1800s and available online on various genealogy websites (do a Google search for "Goodspeed history" and the county name). The quality and usefulness of the Goodspeed info is highly variable.
	:::Enjoy your trip! --] (]) 21:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::Thank you for the help! I actually don't think I'll be using these sources — I have super-detailed atlases for many states (, for example), but nothing for Tennessee, as I've only once in the last decade. As a result, I'll be taking some of the little back roads in Kentucky, but I'll be staying on the highways until I get in the city, and then getting sites in the more concentrated areas. Not enough time for rural plantations (I'd love to see the Hermitage or the Natchez Trace, but both are too far), since I have a 250-mile-each-way drive. But yes, I know what you mean about "anonymous" Civil War sites — take our two-sentence stub on the diminutive ] near Lexington KY; you'd never know that it was a wartime hospital unless you read the nomination. ] (]) 23:52, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::By the way, I forgot to say — see my edits at ]. My career goal is a position at a small college, not a research university, but the one thing I'll miss at a small college is the immense resources of a premier research library; only a research library would have print subscriptions to now-out-of-print publications like the ''Tennessee Anthropologist'' if they're out-of-state. If you plan to work on an article about an archaeological site, let me know if you'd like me to try to find additional information. ] (]) 01:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I could use a little more TN help if you know the answer. While on my trip, I photographed several historical markers that didn't bear any dates. Is there some way to look up when a marker was posted, so I can know whether it's old enough to be {{tl|PD-US-no notice}}? I was hoping for something comparable to http://www.in.gov/history/markers/3818.htm or http://www.remarkableohio.org, but I can't find anything online. Noticing that markers typically bore two-digit numbers at the top (e.g. one in Springfield had "3C 48" above the rest of the text), I guessed that the two-digit number referred to the year, but my Google search did reveal that there weren't any state markers in 1948, so this number must mean something else. ] (]) 02:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::Surely you realize that Tennessee is not a state that believes in spending money on government functions! Apparently there have been occasional state government publications about markers in the state. According to http://books.google.com/books?id=MRhUAAAAYAAJ -- a 1954 publication about Tennessee historical markers (search on "district" for the snippet I found), the first digit on the marker is a district of some sort and the second digit indicates the sequence of marker construction within the district. If you can find a particular marker by searching in that book, you can assume it's old enough. http://www.jstor.org/stable/3378527 might be interesting -- assuming that you have good access to jstor (I don't). --] (]) 03:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::Yes, I realise that :-) But besides something from the state government, I was hoping that there might be some non-governmental source; for example, the Ohio page I cited is operated by the ], not by the state. The thing you found from Google Books is precisely what I was hoping to see, and according to page 12 of , they've published a later edition, but says that the closest copy to you is in the Knox County Public Library system. And all this would be averted if only they'd put dates on their historical markers, like pretty much every other historical marker I can remember seeing...Thanks too for the JSTOR link. I have access to it, but it proved to be unhelpful; the author provides a broad overview of the dispersal of markers and NR sites statewide, but the main theme is that a disproportionately large number of both of them are devoted to non-politically-correct themes, like the first settlers, architecturally-significant large houses, and warfare against the North or against Indians. ] (]) 04:33, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::::Well, I'm an immigrant to Tennessee, so I'm not the kind of person to ask to defend the way this state does things, but I sometimes can explain how the state operates.
	:::::::::As for guides to the markers, the Tennessee Historical Commission is in charge of state historical markers, so it's logical that they (not independent historical societies) are the ones who publish guides to the markers. It's possible that they would mail you a copy of their current guide, if you ask. Another interesting wrinkle to be aware of regarding Tennessee is that in many ways it functions as three distinct states: East, Middle, and West Tennessee. Organizations (potentially including historical societies) in the separate regions often are more active than the corresponding whole-state organizations (and organizations that claim to be statewide often operate primarily in Middle Tennessee, because they are based in Nashville). I say that because it appears that some historical markers in Tennessee are placed and maintained by sub-state-level NGOs, as well as by cities -- and you may have seen some such.
	:::::::::Meanwhile, it looks like Mansfield Cheatham House was a good subject for a photo. I look forward to seeing your work from this trip continue to trickle out on Commons. --] (]) 15:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::::Hm, I knew the Grand Divisions were relevant for issues like Supreme Court membership, but I didn't realise that there were separate administrative structures (whether governmental or not) for the three. This one is marked "Tennessee Historical Commission", so it's definitely not some local or private group that placed it. I'll be trying to get the new photos online, but it may take a good while: I don't expect to be done by the end of the month. Tons of my photos are for already-illustrated sites (I want to get them for my own NR image collection), so it won't be as much work as if I'd gotten 100+ photos that all needed to be uploaded. ] (]) 22:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::::::There's no organized effort to maintain separate organizational structures in the 3 Grand Divisions -- it's just a ''de facto'' phenomenon, but it's real.
	:::::::::::The Robertson County list is looking a lot better, and I'm pleased to see that you've added in some reference citations and location information for some of the archaeological sites in TN. I'm not particularly interested in Tennessee archaeology, but ] has done good work on some articles for TN archaeological sites and might be interested in collaborating with you on that topic. --] (]) 00:48, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
			"Since his appointment, Huffman has become known for messing up Tennessee's education system with unfair teacher evaluations. A record breaking number of teachers have left the profession due to Huffman's tactics. Children as young as age 5 had to take developmentally inappropriate standardized test under Huffman's lead. The SAT-10 test that many of the students took for teacher evaluation purposes was not based on Tennessee state standards. This means teachers were and still are evaluated based on a test that does not cover the material they teach. As a result many teachers have lost their jobs and a campaign has been launched by many state representatives and others calling for his resignation."
	== Open University of Switzerland ==
			Thanks for taking a look at this. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Hi Orlady, Could you assist to have a look at the ] and see if the Recognition and Accreditation section is valid and accurately reflected? Thanks. ] (]) 01:18, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
	:I finally tackled this, and ended up nominating the article for deletion at ]. Nothing inherently wrong with your most recent edits, but I concluded that your earlier effort to delete it through the PROD process was better -- the first step in the proper direction. --] (]) 00:37, 26 January 2014 (UTC)		:Thanks for the alert. I edited the article. --] (]) 15:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
			== List of municipalities in Tennessee ==
	==DYK for St. Michael's Catholic Church (Cedar Hill, Tennessee)==
			Hello, Orlady:
			] is outdated, and not, in its current state, one of Misplaced Pages's best. Thus, I'm nominating it for ]. The relevant discussion is at ]. Thanks. ] (]) 15:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
			== HOP Ranch ==
			Hi orlady,
			The subject article was published this past weekend, and I've been trying to get it placed in WikiProject areas that make the most sense. I believe HOP Ranch may fit better in American Old West than anywhere else.
			I also feel strongly that it is well beyond start class. I think it's at least class B. I'm wondering if you might consider reviewing it and evaluating for yourself.
			Thanks in advance!
			] (]) 23:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
			== Can you please review my DYK reviews ==
			Hello ], I am a relatively new editor and I saw a message on the Administrator Noticeboard saying that DYK was overdue. I would like to help as much as humanly possible, so I have proceeded to do 4 DYK reviews. Before doing so I read the DYK guidelines. The reviews I have done are:
			* ]
			* ]
			* ]
			* ]
			I would be happy to do more if there is a need for it. I saw your name on one review so before I do more could you please review my reviews and advise me if I am doing everything ok. Many thanks, ] (]) 19:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
			== Concordia College and University ==
			Can you visit the Concordia College and University article? I know you have history on it and I'm hoping you can help resolve a conflict. There is information in the talk page under Location section changes.
			Thanks] (]) 03:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
			== Desisto stuff ==
			May I beg you help with something I'm trying reorganize and get rid of the POV stuff I put in ages ago when I was a newbie. I don't know how to do stuff like redirecting sections. Basically the school stuff doesn't belong in the ] article. However a hotlink or howver it's done should point to the controversies section of ] to make both articles cleaner.
			== ] ==
			Orlady, both the nominator and editor of the article have commented since your last post here. I can't figure out where this stands; can you please take another look, and take whatever step comes next? Thank you very much. ] (]) 00:03, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
			==DYK for Pocahontas School==
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	|text = On ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that ''']''', the oldest continuously operating Catholic church in ], was built in 1842 as a ]?'' The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ]. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>(], )</small> and it will be added to ] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ].		|text = On ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that ''']''', a Tennessee public school for white children, did not have indoor plumbing until 1957?'' {{#if: |The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template:Did you know nominations/Pocahontas School|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template talk:Did you know/Pocahontas School|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].}} }} }} You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(], , )</small>, and it may be added to ] if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the ].
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			== Rocky Top ==
	== ] ==
			What topography described in the song's lyrics is found East TN, but not Middle or West TN? ] (]) 22:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
	Orlady, if you're willing, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this article, which seems to have arrived at an impasse. You have a very good sense of sourcing, so I was hoping you could determine whether these are problematic at a DYK level (the major reliance on a single source, though there are now many overall). Many thanks. ] (]) 04:59, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
			:Well, start with the juxtaposition "rocky" and "top" (often interpreted to refer to the Smoky Mountains, notwithstanding the claims of the ]), which indicates rugged mountain topography, not rolling hills. Then there are the lyrics about the two strangers who climbed on rocky top -- "climbing" suggests a significant amount of topographic expression -- and soil that's too rocky to grow corn. To me, those characteristics set the song in East Tennessee -- unless you want to quibble that those conditions can also be found in places in easternmost Middle Tennessee (e.g., Fentress, Pickett, or Sequatchie counties). What's your thinking on this? --] (]) 23:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
			:It's widely documented (or at least claimed) to have been written in Gatlinburg: , . Every speculation I've ever seen about "where is Rocky Top" has always referred to places in East Tennessee (for example: ). --] (]) 23:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
			::I couldn't help but notice that paragraph #3 in that last article you cited was copied-and-pasted from the Misplaced Pages article. In any case, the song is more popular with East Tennesseans, and the Bryants were probably thinking of the Smokies when they wrote it, but it is speculation to say the song's lyrics refer specifically to East Tennessee. ] (]) 21:12, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
	*Thank you very much! ] (]) 05:07, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
			:::Valid point. ] has fixed the article. --] (]) 14:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
			::::Thanks. I didn't mean to get your old friend WilliamJE involved. ] (]) 17:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
	== The wild horse ==
			== ] ==
	About the soprano, "sung at the MET" is saying so little - thousands of singers did that, especially in all the minor roles - that it is almost not worth mentioning. She sang (Leonore in) ], title role. What can we do? --] (]) 21:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
	:My only objective was to make it clear that she is a respectable opera singer, not merely a woman with a voice in the soprano range. (And, for future reference, it's "the Met", not "the MET", because "met" is a normal sort of a short nickname -- not an acronym made from the first letters of three words.) --] (]) 23:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
			Orlady, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at this nomination, which has been stalled for four weeks after a disagreement over the article's neutrality. Please let me know. Thanks as always for your excellent work on DYK. ] (]) 06:17, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
	ps: it didn't get to the quirky slot --] (]) 22:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
			== Annadel, Tennessee ==
	:It's in the quirky slot now. --] (]) 23:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
			Hello Orlady,
	==Naming conventions==
			My name is Roni Freels. I am concerned about the article on your talk page referring to my hometown Annadell, Tennessee. I have information for the gentleman who apparently is arguing that Annadell is located in Scott county. I was born in the Annadell area of Lancing, Tenn. You are absolutely right about the Annadell Baptist church. My daddy helped to construct the earlier church, not the one standing in the same place today. We lived only a few feet from the church. I remember many Sunday's listening my daddy teach my class. I am crushed that the man writing the response to you that Annadell does not exist. I certainly can attest to its presence. Directly before my daddy passed away he turned the land he owned over to Guy Griffith, a friend and member of the Annadell Baptist Church. The reason my dad gave them the land was to establish another cemetery where he preffered to be buried. He and my mother are both buried in the Annadell cemetery directly across the road from the church. My daddy wanted to be buried under the tree where he and my mother courted, and that is exactly where he is. His grave is at the top of the cemetery next to the road marked "Freels".
	I am sorry. Nyttend contacted me about it, so I didn't realise it was someone else who had created the article. My initial message was left on ]. If you follow the comments back and forth, it is quite clear.
			Perhaps if the one in question would look in the Lancing area on route 27 he would find the road to the cemetery across from the old Haun place. Thank you for your talk. Perhaps this will help. God Bless. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	* Churches, and many other buildings (state capitals for example) are known in part by their location. A church is often called "Cedar Hill Catholic Church" or St Michael's, Cedar Hill" for example. A placename should not generally be used as a disambiguation. It should be part of the title of the article.
	*If St Michaels has a website, then it would call itself "St Michael's Catholic Church, Cedar Hill". It would not call itself "St Michael's Catholic Church (Cedar Hill)"
	* Disambiguations are necessary when some piece of information is needed that is '''not''' part of the name of the subject of the article. e.g. "Joe Bloggs (politician)" and "Joe Bloggs (writer)". The words "politician" and "writer" differentiate, but are not part of what they are called.
	* On Misplaced Pages, (and even more on Wikimedia Commons), people sometimes establish conventions without checking to see if there are conventions that are already in place and widely used. This has been very much the case with the naming of churches and other important buildings in the US.
	* Putting the location of a church in brackets as a disambiguation seems quite ridiculous to anyone who is aware that churches are known by their location about 90% of the time. Notre Dame, Paris is not "Notre Dame (Paris)". St Mark's, Venice is not "St Mark's (Venice)", Westminster Abbey is not "St Peter's Abbey (Westminster)". This is simply not the way it is done. All across the world, churches are known by their parish name or perhaps their locality name: ], ]; ] etc.
	* An ongoing problem is that this inappropriate convention is then applied by US editors to other locations so that the even Classical buildings like the ] is likely to find itself misnamed as "Temple of Zeus (Olympia)".
			== Deleting my article ==
	It needs sorting out. ] (]) 03:59, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
			Can you please tell me why it was deleted? I see your reason however its because the school didnt have any accreditation that time, now if you can see on the article it has many accreditations. please check again before deleting. thanks--] (]) 00:30, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:Are you asking about ]? I deleted that article because it was substantially a re-creation of an article that was deleted earlier following a deletion discussion, specifically the discussion ]. --] (]) 21:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:: But did you not see the different ? when the discussion was going on, that time didnt have any accreditation, now you can see its accredited and member by well know accreditation bodies. Please check again, its almost 1 year old the reason of deleting, there are updated information which I wrote on the new article, CHECK: http://www.asicuk.com/international-directory/ OR http://www.acbsp.org/members/?id=27157770 OR http://www.asiqual.com/become-an-asiqual-centre/asiqual-centre-list/recognised-centres OR http://www.ecbe.eu/index.php?id=10 OR http://www.iqsuk.com/certificate-authenticity/?company_name_search=ABMS&cert_reg_number_search=&product_name_search=&sort=ASC&order=company_name OR http://www.efqm.org/about-us/our-community/our-members OR http://qisan.com/members/institutional-members/ OR http://www.bha.org.uk/bha_members/a-b-m-s-education-group/ and many more if you are interested :) --] (]) 23:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::The article was deleted for lack of evidence of ]. The article that I deleted was much the same as the one deleted after the earlier deletion discussion. The fact that this organization appears on the lists that you cite here does not make it notable by Misplaced Pages's criteria. Additionally, your citations do not convince me that ABMS is accredited. --] (]) 13:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::: The new article I wrote was with MANY additional links to WELL KNOW accreditation bodies, I spent hours to prepare it, if my citations didn't convince you maybe because you dont know the links I sent you :) I dont need to convince you if its accredited or not, you are not ministry of education, we are here to help in order to improve wikipedia articles, BUT ANYWAY let me explain you about the links I sent if you dont have time to know about it, but please note, I am not responsible here to convince you, we just write true facts, even if it didnt convince you.
	:I have just added further comment on the talk page of ]. I am sick of having a conversation on four pages. Any further discussion should be on the article's talk page. ] (]) 04:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
			I have sent you too many links and I have more, I dont want to spend hours on explaining you, let me just give short information to you:
	::And I have already comments at ]. --] (]) 04:53, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
			* 1. '''ASIC''' (they are accredited by them) : is an ] agency recognised by the ]'s ]<nowiki><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref></nowiki>
			- IF ASIC and British Government (Home Office ITS A MINISTRY in UK its not a private company) are not ] source than I dont know what is a ] source.
			* 2. they are Recognized by ASIQUAL ('''ASIQUAL''') is a private ] agency recognised by ] <nowiki><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref></nowiki> through their partner SFEDI Awards.<nowiki><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref></nowiki>
			- IF OFQUAL, SFEDI, ASIQUAL are not ] source than I dont know what is a ] source.
			*3. They signed an agreement with '''NCC''' to accredit them (NCC ], NCC Education was first established as an ] initiative by the ] in 1966 and NCC Education is accredited by ] (QCA) and regulated by ]. Recognised by the ] (DBIS) in the UK.<nowiki><ref name="DBIS"></nowiki>, DIUS - Further Education.<nowiki></ref></nowiki>
			- IF NCC, DCSF, Ofqual, DBIS is not ] source than I dont know what is a ] source.
			*4. its member by ('''ACBSP''') on January 22, 2001, the ] (CHEA) Board of Directors granted recognition to the ACBSP.<nowiki><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref></nowiki> On September 19, 2011 The CHEA renewed its recognition of the ACBSP for a further 10 years.<nowiki><ref></nowiki><nowiki></ref></nowiki> its just a member not accredited but a member means that this school is equivalent to US Regionally accredited institutions or at least has right to grant degrees
			- IF ACBSP and CHEA are not ] source than I dont know what is a ] source.
			*5. its member by '''ECBE''', (ECBE is a registered affiliate of the ] (ENQA).<nowiki><ref></nowiki>{{cite journal |title=AFFILIATES ENQA|url=http://www.enqa.eu/index.php/enqa-agencies/affiliates/|journal=http://www.enqa.eu}}<nowiki></ref></nowiki>) and they are working on ECBE accreditation as well, you can call ECBE president.
			- IF ECBE and ENQA are not ] source than I dont know what is a ] source.
			DO YOU WANT MORE we still have many links, like EFQM, ISO...?? Believe me, they are more accredited than 90% of schools with articles on Misplaced Pages.
			Please check links I sent you before just writing an answer. before I wrote this article, I called the accreditation bodies, I checked links, I wanted make sure what I write. I didnt spend hours on preparing an article in the end you say (do not convince me) I am not here to convince you, we are here to write true facts, if you are willing to know the truth you have to search not just read and say didn't convince me, please check before you answer
			I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, ALL THOSE LINKS ABOVE they were not in discussion 1 year ago :) how can you say its the same, I am surprised --] (]) 14:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::If you think that appearing on a bunch of online lists (regardless of who published those lists) is sufficient to make an organization notable by Misplaced Pages standards, then you haven't comprehended ] and ]. --] (]) 03:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::: lets make it point by point, now you agreed that my new article was not similar to old article, that's great :) finally, but again my long explanation and after 4 days didnt convince Orlady, I know very well what a ] source is, but if all above links for you are not ] sources it means there are no more ] sources, I gave you links up a ministerial department of the Government of the United Kingdom but you still dont like, I am afraid to tell you show me HOW my links are not ] sources, start to give me examples if you can. REMEMBER you are here to write true facts and not your opinion. People are not interested to read on WIKIPEDIA what Orlady believing, they are interested to see true facts and Misplaced Pages is the right place where we should be neutral when we write something.
			Links I gave you
			* British Government
			* Home Office (ministerial department of the Government of the United Kingdom, responsible for immigration, security, and law and order. As such it is responsible for the police, UK Visas and Immigration, and the Security Service (MI5)
			* ASIC (Recognized accreditation in UK, in UK you cant enter as student if your school or university not accredited by ASIC, QAA or BAC, just for you to know how important is this accreditation)
			* SFEDI (Accredited Qualifications)
			* Ofqual (its Part of Ministry of Education in UK)
			* ASIQUAL (Accredited Qualifications)
			* National Computing Centre (established as an Information technology initiative by the British Government in 1966 and Recognized by Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (DBIS) in the UK)
			* ACBSP USA I hope you know it :) because you are from USA :)
			* CHEA USA I hope you know it :) because you are from USA :)
			* ECBE (well known accreditation body in Europe)
			* European Association for Quality Assurance in Higher Education (ENQA) IF you dont know this organization you better check :)
			* EFQM (European first quality for management)
			* ISO (I think you know it :)
			AND MANY MORE... ALL THOSE LINKS DIDN'T HAVE 1 year ago in the discussion.
			What I can offer you in order to solve this discussion is to prepare a better article with many ] sources like british Government, CHEA, ENQA..., I will re-write it with all those new links and you may check, if you like it, means keep it, if not we can discuss again, because just ignoring true facts wont help you as administrator on Misplaced Pages, those links are well known worldwide and people use them as ] sources and nobody can say no. if ok, please inform me. thanks --] (]) 09:43, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	:::'''Response'''
			I'd like to re-organize this article, and I want to get the backstory first. What can you tell me about any history and plan for this article? See also ]. I'll be reading the talk page meanwhile. ] (]) 18:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
	:::I have been over the naming conventions in detail. I cannot find any convention for the naming of buildings. However, the convention that applies to ''places'', both generally and specifically in almost every country, including the US, is as follows
	:::*If a place is populated, i.e. it has an address, then the geographic disambiguation follows a comma. e.g. ]
	:::*If the place or geographic feature is not populated i.e it does not have an address, and a disambiguation is needed, then the disambiguation is in parenthesis e.g. ].
			== ] ==
	:::It follows that a church, which always has an address, is almost always closely linked to it geographic location i.e. its parish or diocese and is always in an area of some population (unless it is an archaeological ruin) should use the "comma placename" convention as disambiguation rather than the "parenthesis placename" disambiguation which only applies to geographic features.
	:::Thank you for directing me to the relevant pages.
	:::I have not been personally rude or insulting to anyone. I have merely questioned a person's motives ''after'' my contributions were referred to as "trolling" and after being told to "stick it".
	:::] (]) 01:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
			Hello. ] died last Tuesday. I've added a reference (just got the e-mail). I will add an infobox. Funny that we are both interested in TN and BH!] (]) 03:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
	::::], I must further add that I have just looked at your edit summary on my talk page, which accuses me of "personal attack". I want to emphasise here that your edit summary was highly inappropriate. There was "no personal attack" involved, merely that questioning of the motives of an editor who had accused ''me'' of trolling. Do you think that I have the right to question a person's motives when they refer to my contributions as "trolling"? I have been treated in an insulting manner.
	::::I would like you to withdraw your accusation of "personal attack".
	::::If you want to know more about what I do on Misplaced Pages, look at ], ], ], ], ], ] etc. I am the major contributor to all these article which are among the "vital" (i.e. "must have") articles on Misplaced Pages. This will make you aware that when my edits were referred to as "trolling" is really wasn't very appropriate.
			== Happy New Year ==
	::::Look, in particular at the article ]. Over 100 churches are mentioned by name, including churches from every (populated) continent. In every case (where necessary) the location of the church is given after a comma, ''not'' in brackets. This is the way that it is done, across the world.
	::::] (]) 02:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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			== Category:Historically segregated white schools in the United States ==
	:::::Are you attempting to tell me that churches don't have addresses, are not in populated areas, and are not (in the case of parish churches and cathedrals) closely linked to parish, village or city?
	:::::Why are you telling me that churches are a "special case"? How is that?
	:::::I have been writing about churches (including churches in the US) for a very long time and in great detail. Tell me why they are a "special case" where naming conventions are concerned.
	::::: ] (]) 02:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
			Hello, I wanted to let you know I nominated ] for deletion. I hope you will understand my rationale. If it is populated, it will contain most all of the high school-related Misplaced Pages articles in the South. Separate but equal was in name only and while many of the "white schools" are still in operation and racially integrated, the smaller black school buildings have long been shuttered. – ] (]) 14:23, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
	::::::No, I am attempting to tell you that churches are not geographic locations, so the convention at ] that you are quoting does not apply to churches. (I referred you to that page only because it explains that U.S. locations are normally rendered as "city, state". My apologies for upsetting you by referring you to pages on two different topics; apparently I was mistaken in thinking that you would figure that out that the pages are relevant to different aspects of this matter.) --] (]) 02:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
			== Oak Ridge gatehouses ==
	:::::::And I am attempting to tell you, that in line with the page to which you directed me, ''the same'' convention is applied, everywhere else on Misplaced Pages to churches i.e. (like places) they are in populated areas with addresses, and, the convention "comma, placename" is generally applied to hundreds and hundreds of churches, across Misplaced Pages. Churches are not treated "differently", ''except'' by some US wikipedia users.
	:::::::] (]) 03:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
			I was wondering if you could provide a reference for the last sentence in the History section on the ]: ''The Bethel Valley Road large structure was painted in 2005 but there has been no restoration or other attention to the interiors of the two Bethel Valley structures and the small structures at the other sites.'' ] (]) 21:13, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::I do see that there are article titles, such as ], ] and numerous Enlish churches, that use a oomma to set off what appears to be disambiguation information. Those article titles don't follow the convention at ]. The fact that some articles don't follow that policy does not disprove the existence of the policy. Those examples do demonstrate that some users (apparently including you) have been consistently editing against the naming convention on disambiguation. If you think the convention is wrong, you need to open a discussion on the policy talk page. Quit haranguing Nyttend and me over the naming of articles like ], which is consistent with Misplaced Pages naming conventions. Your behavior has become significantly ] -- consider yourself warned that continuation of this disruptive behavior may lead to the ]. --] (]) 04:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
			:I've found (and inserted) a reference that supports some of the content there. I'm sure that there was a more complete source at one time. --] (]) 02:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC) Further: The source of the information seems to be ], who also happens to be the person quoted in the reference I cited. I can vouch for the truth of the statement that there has been no restoration of the Bethel Valley structure or the small structure at the other sites. If I wanted to know what year the Bethel Valley structure was painted, I'd ask D. Ray, as he probably has the records in his office. (But that's a detail that Misplaced Pages probably doesn't need.) --] (]) 03:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
			::Thanks for that. Much appreciated. ] (]) 06:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	== ] ==
			Hi Orlady. This is just to let you know that there is an article up at AfD about the X-10 reactor: ]. Not canvassing here or anything, but the user (]) may introduce himself soon on the talk page of the article, which has been pretty quiet lately. He has some information about X-10 as the world's first nuclear power generator, and as far as I can see it's not in the article yet. So if he does show up, can somebody give him a welcome? Thanks. –&nbsp;] (]) 10:33, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
	Orlady, here's another DYK nomination that has stalled: it's a GA that was nominated, and has a reviewer and creator in a fundamental disagreement over the article subject matter and whether it's appropriate in general and for DYK in particular. There were five posts within 17 hours, and nothing for the 12 days since.
			== Burritt College ==
	Thanks for anything you can do here. ] (]) 04:03, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	:Sorry, but I have zero interest in reviewing anything related to BK grilled chicken sandwiches! --] (]) 04:08, 31 January 2014 (UTC)		Hi, I need you to review ] for me. It seems that CorenSearchBot thinks I copied copyrighted material. :( --] (]) 06:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
			:Just a quick note: while there was no straight-up copyvio, the Corenbot notice was probably triggered by ]. I did some further rewording, and added material from two other sources, so it should be safe. ] (]) 22:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
	== Your comments at my talk ==
			==Talk:Sedona Sky Academy#Sedona Sky Academy - Copper Canyon Academy==
	Thanks for coming in; William's constant accusations that I'd created the AFD, even after I showed him the diff of its creation by someone else, prompted me to warn him up to {{tl|uw-npa4}} for ] violations (the "making accusations without evidence" bit), but he kept on going. See by someone else, who easily figured out what I was doing, and in response to something else William had said. ] (]) 05:46, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
			] You are invited to join the discussion at ]. Thanks. -- ] ] 11:07, 28 February 2015 (UTC)<!-- ] -->
			== Precious anniversary ==
	:Nyttend's warnings on my talk page are a clear violation of ]. He violated ]. Insists on a state of ] when it comes to refusing to acknowledge he's the one who put deletion tags on the page and without those there wouldn't have been a AFD page. Nyttend at this talk page said 'Please do not continue to restore it' clearly shows he intended to continue ignoring BRD and that because he is an administrator that he's above that and that brings ] into play or that he now violating ]. He had no right to tell me not to restore. Nyttend not giving a deletion rationale when tagging the article brings into question his ] (Look up above at 'this comment by someone else'. That was done by Nyttend! Talk about lack of competence) and now he is engaging in ] in hope of getting someone to block me. I said it twice at my talk page- Take it to ANI. If Nyttend thinks the article is spam, why doesn't he start a proper AFD on it. No instead he refuses to ] and pursues me instead for standing up to him. I spent a whole day doing edits to articles. Clearly I've moved on but Nyttend can't. He made a deliberately misleading statement to Mark Arsten, namely not noting that you apologized for reading the page history correctly. Yes I can supply links to back up my accusations, but you and Nyttend and other administrators ignore links that put any of you in a bad light so I'm not going to waste my time doing so in this post(but I will do so at ANI). Everything can be found easily enough. Nyttend is a prime example of why I think so little of administrators around here.] 13:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
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	:::How interesting, that I was WP:INVOLVED despite not using admin tools anywhere, and also that he simultaneously tells me to take something to AFD and objects that I went to another admin for assistance. Completely aside from the fact that I wasn't going to Mark to request assistance (the point was to respond to William's allegations), how odd to ask for an ANI discussion and object to me raising it at someone else's talk page. Not to mention the idea of linking a diff by someone else and saying that it's something I said. ] (]) 23:16, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
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			Thank you stepping in wherever you see that you are needed, and that is a lot: ], improvement of wording, understanding, and now coming to the rescue of ] a fighter for Human rights left us, - you are an ]!
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	Sure, no problem. As I said I think it is a bold & excellent effort which deserves a constructive and supportive approach. :) Cheers ] <small>]</small> 09:46, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
			Three years ago, you were the 46th recipient of my ], --] (]) 09:00, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
			Eight years ago, you were recipient no. ] of Precious, a prize of QAI! --] (]) 08:14, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
	== ]'s block ==
			== ] ==
	Hi Orlady. I've been looking over the events leading up to this block, and whilst I can see where you're coming from, it looks to me as though a combination of heated tempers, frayed nerves and misunderstandings have led to what is basically a less-than-optimum result. Personally I don't see anything here that rises to the level of a personal attack, but then I have a pretty thick skin (you should see my Misplaced Pages email inbox sometime...); it just looks to me like a user getting frustrated because they haven't understood the situation and feel persecuted by the admin corps. I'd be willing to unblock WilliamJE and to make another attempt to explain the situation to him - and suggest some more productive approaches should he wish to continue the dispute - but naturally only if you're amenable to the idea. Let me know your thoughts - I'll be offline now for a few hours, though, so if you do agree to an unblock I'd be indebted if you'd push the buttons for me, and I'll drop by William's talkpage later this evening. All the best, ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 15:44, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	:The block was precipitated by the fact that he made three edits to this page, adding to his bill of particulars against Nyttend (complaints that had already been posted in a number of places over the last couple of days), after I had given him an "only warning" that included the following:
	:::''You've already had a "final warning," so I could block you right now. However, I don't like to do that to productive contributors, so I'm hoping this warning will make a bigger impression on you, coming from a different user. If you persist in your obsessive (and apparently baseless) personal attacks on ], you should expect to receive a forced vacation from Misplaced Pages editing.''
	:--] (]) 15:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::I myself have been called a variety of terrible things (e.g., "evil") and once was even the target of a bizarre off-wiki webpage that accused me of witchcraft, satanism, and a bunch of other horrifying stuff. I used to figure that it was best to maintain a thick-skinned attitude toward that kind of behavior, but over time I've decided that my former attitude was a mistake. I now believe that shrugging off nastiness does not make the nastiness stop -- it may even help to perpetuate the behavior -- and it is very disruptive to the community. Also, I discovered that an appalling number of people believed everything they read. I've come around to the view that personal attacks should be addressed early, before the situation gets out of control. I hoped this user would listen to warnings, but that didn't work. --] (]) 16:43, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
			You may remember ]. Unfortunately, PBS has ignored your advice and is once again using exactly the same arguments on ]. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of it. Is there anything to be done? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] ]</span> 22:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
	== Reason for block? ==
			== Clinton Engineer Works ==
	It may have gotten lost in the sea of material on William's page, but I'd like to know precisely what William said that earned a block. I thought it was the reference to competence, but you linked to , which is not the one bringing up competence. I was preparing an offer to unblock if William agrees to drop the references to Competence, but now I am concerned that isn't the precipitating item. I'd still prefer that you voluntarily unblock him; I have never overturned another admin's block, and you have no idea how conflicted I am about doing this one, but I think William, while far form perfect has been mainly the victim in this mess, and it is unfair that he is blocked, while no one else is accountable.--]] 18:26, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	:That single diff actually was a series of 3 edits that he made to this page after I had warned him about continuing to attack Nyttend -- and after he had acknowledged the warning by deleting it from his talk page. The fact that he read the warning, then came here and continued posting personal diatribes against Nyttend, was what caused me to conclude that it was time to act. (From the evidence, he was too busy complaining about Nyttend to be working on ].) It wasn't so much the specific words that he used, but rather the behavior (persistence in repeating the same accusations in various places), that I was responding to.
	:As for my choice of "harassment" as a reason for blocking, I had the impression that the reason I picked covered both personal attacks and harassment. I have very little experience with blocking users for anything other than sockpuppetry and edit warring, so I'm not very familiar with the nuances of the other potential reasons for blocking.
	:I'd be happy to unblock if WilliamJE would acknowledge that he got carried away in his campaign against Nyttend, and would quit posting his complaints and accusations. I haven't seen that from him yet. --] (]) 18:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	::OK thanks. I thought the most serious think in there was the Competence allegation, but that wasn't in the specific edit you cited, so I wondered whether you meant something else.--]] 18:55, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	::I was not harrassing Nyttend. He restarted an issue that laid dormant for a day except for him. If anything, he was gunning for me. What you did to me is permanently on my block log. That's the Misplaced Pages equivalent of giving someone a criminal record. Only low-life cold-blooded snakes without a conscience do that. Your blocking me for harrassment when you don't know what constitutes it or explain how I was doing that makes you to be an incompetent if not administrator. Especially since almost everything you did or said towards me starting with that talk page message and your first comment to me on Nyttend's page has been labbeled dead wrong and or heavily criticized by everyone around Your buddy buddy with Nyttend is reprehensible and should be the cause of your losing administrative tools. It won't happen even though its clear you put protecting your buddy first over protecting Misplaced Pages. Instead I will watching the both of you for the next time you try what you did to me to someone else. So watch out. I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!] 23:17, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::No, you weren't harassing Nyttend. I didn't actually say you were. I said that you were engaging in personal attacks. When I blocked you, I selected a reason from the pulldown menu (supplemented with other information), and the reason I chose was "] or ]". Note the word "or" in that phrasing; I blocked you for personal attacks. How interesting that your reaction now is to tell me that you are now targeting me -- not necessarily for an "attack," but rather an ongoing campaign against me. Please note that the overall messages of ] and ] are "comment on content, not on the contributor" and a directive against behavior that appears to "intentionally target a specific person or persons." You might want to consider what it is in your recent behavior that might lead an observer to think that you were engaging in personal attacks or harassment. --] (]) 23:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::::Yes you did say harrasment. It is in my block log. You continue to lie in the face of incontrovertible evidence. That's reprehensible. As for following around, that isn't harassment. Its making sure you and no other administrator abuse your tools and when you do someone holds all of you accountable and tries to fix the shit you've done to other people. I am standing up for the abuse victims because very few editors has the guts to. Its something I've been doing for a while. Sphilbrick may remember an editor called Durneydiaz who I intervened for and got him to unblock. More recently there was the idiotic block of Joefromrandb by TigerShark that I led the campaign to get overturned after not 1 but 2 administrators said the block was wrong but wouldn't overturn it. TigerShark is so incompetent that he proposed 0RR for Joe with no exceptions for vandalism or BLP violations. He's still an administrator around here because administrators have made it next to impossible for anyone to get an abusive one removed. Oh and TigerShark has indefinitely banned a bunch of IPs which isn't something that's supposed to be done lightly, had admins call him on it, but nothing has been done about it. So someone has to keep an eye out for the abusers so at the very least their bogus blocks can be overturned. You've proven today you're willing to abuse someone to protect a friend. I already said above what I think that makes you.] 00:31, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
	::::::Kindly read the first paragraph of ]. "A or B" doesn't mean "A", and "Harassment or personal attacks" doesn't mean "Harassment", and it doesn't make any evidence of Orlady lying. If you persist in attacking us, you may wish to take a quick break and make an edit request at ] to get this block reason to be split into two. ] (]) 00:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::Not going to say anymore. You can't win arguments against idiots as my Mom used to say or people without a conscience. Absolute power makes that disappear in people.] 00:49, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::If you want to avoid scrutiny Nyttend make better decisions in the future! Don't get mad at a user when you screw up and they call you out on it. Even if you are an "admin" that sort of conduct isn't acceptable and if no one else is going to tell you I will. I'm not afraid of you or of getting blocked for telling you that I think you and Orlady need to take a step back and self assess why you are here and what is best for Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 02:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
			I have ] up for ] nomination. Since you're an expert, would you consider reviewing it? If you have the time. Regards. ] (]) 01:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
	== Refnums ==
			== Where's Orlady? ==
			Orlady, where are you? It seems strange without seeing you around WP once in a while. Your last edit was 6 months ago. Just - poof! with no explanation? ] (]) 19:24, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
			:Yes. Where is Orlady? ] (]) 22:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
			::I suppose it could be said I've found new ways to waste my time. I had no idea it had been so long, though! --] (]) 23:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
			:::Good to know you're OK, and just engaged in other activities. ] (]) 12:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
			Hi ], it is good to hear back from you! With every good wish...] (]) 03:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
			*Indeed. We sure do miss you. All the best. ] (]) 21:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
			*It's reassuring to see that you are still at least watching your talk page. You are missed both as a solid content contributor, also for your opinions on debates, ''and'' as an admin. ] (]) 03:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
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			== Speedy deletion nomination of Bates family ==
			Hello Orlady,
			I wanted to let you know that I just tagged ] for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
			If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can <span class="plainlinks">''''''</span>, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
			You can leave a note on ] if you have questions. ] (]) 15:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
			Hi orlady. Someone connected to the program is deletingn large amounts of sourced contributions on the Island View RTC page claiming, again, that the name is changed so it is not historically relevant. I disagree. Please address. It would be most appreciated. ] (])- <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 08:55, 22 September 2015 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== OIKOS Software Inc. page deletion ==
			Hi Orlady
			You are listed as a editor that could provide a copy of a deleted page that was done in August 2015 as part of a huge deletion list under orangemoody. This is very confusing to our business a we thought a reliant wiki editor put up the page. It appears this person we was impersonating a wiki editor. Now we are deleted. Based on our recollection, there was no copyright issues on the page, but could have been deleted for such. Can you help us? We would like someone like yourself to tell us why it was taken down.
			Kind regards,
			Janice Leahy] (]) 19:40, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
			:This has been handled at https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#OIKOS_Software.2C_Inc. --] (]) 15:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
			== Nomination for deletion of Template:Citation broken ==
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			== Doncram case amendment ==
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			* The ] imposed by {{u|Seraphimblade}} is rescinded. For clarity, this means that Doncram is permitted to edit existing articles but not create new articles that are related to the National Register of Historic Places, broadly construed.
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			For the Arbitration Committee, ]] 13:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
			== AfD of an article you created ==
			] - as it stands, that's a really terrible article with one editor making huge additions since your stub. ] ] 12:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
			== ] COI ==
			Hi old friend. I just got off the phone with her sister and she was screaming at me and says Cheryl thinks I'm stalking her. I did the best I could to polish the article breaking it into sections etc. However, Cheryl herself wrote the bulk of the article herself. She is a COI editor, and I'm likely a little bit myself. I would ask you to take a look at it. Inho all the primary sources have to be chopped. The article is imbalanced overcited in some areas and sorely lacking sources in others. Is there anyway we can whittle it back to a stub by losing the weak cites, the trivial unsourced claims, and quite frankly self-indulgent puffery that I whittled away some from her article. She really is barely notable when you don't count the primary sources which are all redundant anyways I know you edit fast so that's why I'm asking you. ]--] (]) 07:42, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
			:I'll give it a try. So far I've made a couple of very minor edits. --] (]) 18:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
			::There may also may be a copyright vios issue on the pic as it is not a snapshot , but a screen shot from a Ted talk. Thank you for your help. --] (]) 21:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
			== GARs ==
			Orlady, you opened two individual GA reassessments back in August 2013: ] and ].
			You listed a number of significant concerns at the time, including possible overclose paraphrasing, broadness (not covering some areas, while covering others in excessive detail), OR, etc. You also raised the question as to whether the two articles ought to be combined into a general article on entranceways.
			It is past time, three years later, to wind up these reassessments. As the issues you raised were significant, I don't think it's appropriate just to shut them down without a current assessment.
			I'm hoping you return soon, and will be willing to post a comment to each of these. In the meantime, I plan to ask Nikkimaria to assess both articles as to possible close paraphrasing, and once she's done that, ask Wizardman to look over your points and see whether they have been adequately addressed. I did post a Status query to the Lamarck Drive GAR, pinging both you and TonyTheTiger, who replied and could thus work on any remaining issues.
			Thanks, and I hope you are well, even if not here much any more. ] (]) 22:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
			:Orlady, I appreciate the response on the reassessment pages. As I noted there, you're the official reviewer, and these are both individual reassessments. As you clearly believe these articles do not meet the GA criteria at the present time, it's up to you to delist them. (Instructions are at ]; I can take care of the technicalities if that part is a problem.) If you're not going to do that, then the other option is to close the reassessment with no action taken (effectively "kept"). (Again, I can take care of the technicalities.) If you don't want to make a decision but still want this pursued, then once your individual reassessments have been closed, a community reassessment could be opened, as ] mentions, but not while the individual ones remain open. Please post your decision on the reassessment pages. I don't feel I can act absent specific instructions on your part. Thanks again. ] (]) 02:48, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
			::Orlady, this is just a final ping. Since you haven't taken further action per the above, I'm going to consult with one more person who is quite experienced at GAR (though on the community side) to see what they recommend, and go with that unless you respond sooner. I hope you're having a very happy New Year. ] (]) 15:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Colin Cunningham

Hi. I am new to Misplaced Pages editing and am having an issue with a fellow editor. I am trying to fix and update the page on actor Colin Cunningham but my edit was immediately taken down by a person who claimed I have a conflict of interest! I have been Librarian for over 25 years and teach Ethical Information Sources to High School Students. The person in question did not even ask my qualifications or reason for wishing to update this page prior to removing my edits and making false accusations. They have failed to respond to me at all to clarify the thought process behind these accusations. The mistakes on the page were noticed by a gentleman I do research for from time to time. He does not feel qualified to become an editor and make the corrections himself. He asked if I would do it since I am a Librarian. I am not being paid in any manner other than in my capacity as a Librarian by the institution that employs me. I have fact checked all of the information he has given me with the appropriate bodies (Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences website, Leo Awards Archive of Past Awardees and Nominees website, etc.) But as I said, I corrected only one sentence and posted a new photo (that I got written permission from the actor to use, per Misplaced Pages rules) before my work was taken down.

My intention for this article are as follows:

1. Add the new photograph I got permission to use. The old one was from 2012 and is not how the man currently looks.
2. Fix an error that credits the actor with being the founder of the Open Fist theatre company in Los Angeles. He was a member of the founding company, which is a very different thing. (see Misplaced Pages article on Open Fist Theatre Company: Open Fist Theatre Company)
3. Fix a number of grammatical errors and awkward wording so the whole page reads better. The page has been edited by multiple people since first posted and it's a bit choppy and disjointed.
4. Add a table of the actor's many award wins and nominations. He was shortlisted for an Academy Award Nomination, has won 3 Leo Awards and been nominated for 11 and has a number of other awards to his credit as actor, writer, director and producer.

I am happy to have another Misplaced Pages editor fact-check my work when I am finished, if it is indeed standard practice.

Many thanks,

LAFUREY LAFurey (talk) 18:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

The Saguache Crescent

17:40, March 1, 2014 Orlady moved page Talk:The Saguache Crescent to Talk:Saguache Crescent over redirect (Removing definite article -- see Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name) for the reasons)

You're wrong. please undo your move. Eric Corbett 17:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• Why haven't you sorted this out yet? Eric Corbett 13:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• Too many administrators believe themselves to be infallible, even quoting policy and guidelines they've obviously never read, as you did in this case. What would you suggest as a kinder way of saying "you're a wanker"? Eric Corbett 22:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with Eric's comments. However I do find this comment unprofessional: "I might have returned to this a bit sooner if the comments on my talk page had been a bit "nicer". Just saying." Why should my article be held up because of something that Eric said, though I can't imagine what he said that offended you. Gandydancer (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Who says we are "professional" around here? I am not paid for this. I edit Misplaced Pages and I do DYK reviews for free -- and most of my DYK reviews are never claimed for QPQ credit.

In interacting with humans who are volunteering their time, you need to account for some human psychology -- including the existence of human emotions. Most (more likely all) of us have conflicting demands for our time (Misplaced Pages is not the most important thing in my life) and most (if not all) of us have emotions that we can't always account for. If a request here rubs me the wrong way, it reduces the chance that I'm going to be motivated to drop everything and respond. If this were a professional assignment for me, I would suck it up and respond immediately, but this isn't a professional assignment, so I don't feel I have to do that. Anyway, by the time I responded to this request, I was no longer feeling grumpy about it, which probably was a better thing for all of us. --Orlady (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Being an infallible administrator Orlady found it difficult to admit that she was wrong, and childishly held up your DYK review in retaliation. Just the way it is here. Eric Corbett 23:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Orlady sure does believe in her infallibility. This talk thread is very interesting. Multiple editors have told her that telling an administrator to resign isn't a personal attack but she has yet to admit she was wrong with this edit....William 00:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ernest O. Wollan

On 2 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernest O. Wollan, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that although physicist Ernest Wollan pioneered neutron diffraction, he did not share in the Nobel Prize that was awarded for the technology? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest O. Wollan. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thank you from the DYK project and me Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hackney Chapel AME Zion Church

On 5 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hackney Chapel AME Zion Church, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a survey of rural African-American churches in Tennessee found Hackney Chapel (pictured) to be "one of the oldest and least altered"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hackney Chapel AME Zion Church. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Re Template:Did you know nominations/ThePsychoExWife.com

I'm going by this statement: "Any autoconfirmed registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose)". You could always modify the template and put yourself as nominator. I've commented on your talk page as I don't want the nom to be crowded with a wall of text not related to its promotions. EagerToddler39 (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

That statement describes the reality that only autoconfirmed users can create a template. That was drafted as an explanatory statement and added to the DYK information pages sometime after the current template-based nomination mechanism was created (before that, nominations were created directly on the noms page, which anyone can edit). I can see why you interpreted that statement to indicate that submission of DYK nominations is some sort of right or privilege that is limited to autoconfirmed users, but that was never the intent. DYK has always encouraged the participation of anonymous contributors. --Orlady (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I never suggested that anons should be "block ... from participating in DYK". As you quite rightfully summarized on the nom page they are free to recommend nominations at the DYK project talk page. However I'll defer to your explanation of the situation. EagerToddler39 (talk) 06:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Belated thanks

Belated thanks

I know this is very late but I wanted to thank you for your participation at my RfA. I was very inspired by the many that demonstrated fairness and compassion regardless of how they voted. Its the feeling of friendship and camaraderie that keeps me coming back. So, thank you for your participation and for your continued sense of fairness and compassion in all areas of WP. I look forward to continuing to work together in the days to come. Best wishes, — Keithbob • Talk • 21:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Cranial nerve

Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this nomination and see if it is ready for approval. The initial review was done by that IP-hopper who posted to WT:DYK last week, and I'd like someone who is clearly judging based on DYK rules to make sure it meets our criteria—the fact that "citation needed" templates were not considered important enough to have corrected prior to approval makes me wonder what else might have been overlooked. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Helen Fraser (feminist)

On 8 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Helen Fraser (feminist), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Helen Fraser was the first woman to be adopted as an official party candidate for parliament in Scotland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Fraser (feminist). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have just been informed by a bot that there had been a discussion about an article that I had created and you had contributed to at Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Fraser (feminist) because of a particular fact that I included. It was nice to have been informed of this and it would have been nicer to have been informed of this before the discussion had been closed and a decision reached. I appreciate that as the nominator, the responsibility was not yours. It occurs to me that you may be interested in helping address an issue that I think important. I have a view about how the role of women has been undervalued by history and I think wikipedia has a moral duty to rectify this but has policies that prevent this from happening. I would be happy to ellaborate on this to the relevant person/people. Graemp (talk) 09:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Graemp. Discussion of your concerns about the DYK appearance seems to have occurred on several different pages, and it took me some time to sort it all out. The WP:DYK feature exists primarily to bring attention to new and newly expanded articles, as well as new Good articles. It does this by presenting interesting facts from those articles on the main page. I nominated the Helen Fraser article for DYK after seeing it on a list of new articles. Before I nominated the article, I checked the sources that I could access and I did some editing to the article, including revisions to eliminate what I perceived to be WP:Close paraphrasing of sources.

The statement in the article that I found most interesting for DYK was (in the original article version) "In 1922 she was the first woman to be adopted in Scotland as a parliamentary candidate when she was selected as National Liberal candidate for the Govan Division of Glasgow for the 1922 General Election." The wording of that sentence was confusing, so I looked at sources to make sure I understood what was meant by "being adopted in Scotland as a candidate". In the National Dictionary of Biography I found "After the war Helen was employed as a commissioner for National Savings, resigning in 1922 to stand as the Liberal candidate for Govan, the first woman to be adopted as an official candidate in Scotland." After reading that, I added the word "official" to the sentence in the article. It was clear to me that she was a candidate for UK parliament. When I wrote the hook I retained the wording "in Scotland" to ensure consistency with the sources (I thought there was a remote possibility that a woman "in England" had previously been named as a candidate to represent Scotland, so I didn't want to say "from Scotland"). In retrospect, it's apparent that the words "candidate for parliament in Scotland" could be misunderstood as indicating that she was a candidate for parliament of Scotland (that didn't occur to me because such a parliament didn't exist in her time), but several people (including me, as well as User:Victuallers, who you contacted about this) didn't think of that possibility. It's not uncommon for people who are familiar with a topic to fail to see how someone else could misinterpret their words; linking the word "parliament" to the UK parliament was a good "fix" to indicate the meaning.

You are hardly alone in thinking that Misplaced Pages needs to do a better job with women's history. I suggest that you get involved with the Women's History WikiProject here. (I have, however, been dismayed to find that the W.H. Wikiproject seems to have a restrictive definition of "history," such that most accomplishments by women in the last few decades are considered to be outside its scope.) --Orlady (talk) 06:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Victuallers asked me if I had done any similar articles and I flagged up Ursula Williams, but I understand that DYK runs a set of criteria that means it is 'too late' for this article to be nominated. If you are involved with promoting womens history month, this is the sort of article that might have an appeal. Graemp (talk) 10:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

There's a learning curve involved in contributing to DYK -- starting with understanding those esoteric rules for article eligibility. Now that you've had this introduction, I look forward to your contributions in the future -- we are always looking for interesting content about women (not just in Women's History Month, but pretty much every day of the year). --Orlady (talk) 14:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Marie Dollinger

On 8 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marie Dollinger, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that runner Marie Dollinger represented Germany in three Olympic Games, broke Olympic records and set a world record, but never won an Olympic medal? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marie Dollinger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/USA Freedom Act

Orlady, I was wondering whether you were planning to come back to this one now that Wnt has responded to your concerns, or if I should instead call for a new reviewer. If the latter, please let me know. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Help needed

Dear Orlady, I hope this finds you well. I have created Mohammad Samir Hossain at https://en.wikipedia.org/Mohammad_Samir_Hossain. Will you please help me edit and make it a better article or stub! I know you are really an expert author having due knowledge on editing at wiki. Thanks Shoovrow Shoovrow (talk) 07:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Old Deery Inn

On 11 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Old Deery Inn, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Deery Inn avoided destruction in the American Civil War because its proprietor used bribery to secure its protection? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Old Deery Inn. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for your help Victuallers (talk) 18:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Tobias Arlt, Tobias Wendl

Orlady, we have the situation here that a pair of articles about a team of two lugers, both named Tobias, had their articles expanded with effectively the same 600+ character Olympics section (plus other material specific to each person), and each just barely makes the 5x expansion using that repeated material. Is this something where we could (or should) do an IAR and let both names (and articles) be bolded, or require that one of them be unbolded? (Another reviewer felt that the articles were padded a bit to get them up and over the 5x level.) Can you please take a look and decide what ought to be done? I've superseded the tick because of the duplicative expansion (which was only part of the new material), and will defer to your wisdom here. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for weighing in. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Expanded

Dear Orlady, I am glad that you went through the article. I have further expanded it. Will you be kind enough to pen through it a bit. Remember its Mohammad Samir Hossain. Take Care.Shoovrow (talk) 07:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee)

On 13 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that St. Paul's Episcopal Church (pictured) was described as Georgian on the outside, but "much more Gothic and much more Victorian" on the inside? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

New Change

Dear, Thanks for your kind help in editing Mohammad Samir Hossain. I have tried to change the lead sentence and this time its exactly as the reference presents, and the reference is also mentioned beside the word that can create question about verifiability. Still, if you feel like changing anything I shall always welcome. This time I have uploaded a free photo and I don't mind if the previous copyrighted one gets deleted to uphold wiki rule. Thanks. Bolton007 (talk) 04:30, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing the Givhan DYK

You do realize, though, that one of the secondary sources you found, that William & Mary law review article, is in the article as a source (see note 52, the very last one). Daniel Case (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Sunuvagun! However, I discounted that "Analysis and Commentary" section. I was hoping to see secondary sources get used to help support the parts of the article that describe the case, the opinion, and subsequent jurisprudence. --Orlady (talk) 04:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

As you noted, there's still a lot of uncertainty there. I generally feel that most judges (or, let's be honest, their clerks) write in clear enough prose that summarizing and paraphrasing their opinions, with generous quotation, is sufficient. As for secondary sources, it's later decisions interpreting that decision that generally make the interpretation that counts (Honestly, I would class most appellate or higher opinions as secondary sources by our standards to begin with since, after all, they are really little more than commentary and analysis of the lower-court decision.

At some point in the future I might expand the article somewhat; I'd shore up the sources at that point. Daniel Case (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Jesse Whitesell House and Farm

I just saw your WT:NRHP discussion with Dudemanfellabra regarding the Jesse Whitesell House and Farm, as well as the stub you created. As the photographer for the images currently in the article, I can tell you that it's rather confusing on the ground, too; I wasn't quite clear what I should photograph in order to get elements of both the original and the increase. If I correctly understand your words, I agree with what you've said: although it was originally located just in Kentucky, it needs to be listed as a duplicate because the increase causes the listing to include resources on both sides of the border. Nyttend (talk) 04:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, Nyttend. Your photos are, of course, the best part of the article I created. :-) --Orlady (talk) 13:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee)

On 20 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that St. Marks Presbyterian Church in Rogersville, Tennessee, was built in 1912 with separate entrances for men and women? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 20:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Poultry

Orlady, can you please take this one under your wing? Nikkimaria had some objections, and I'm not entirely sure they've been answered. There was a suggestion at User_talk:Nikkimaria#Poultry that someone be found to look over sources—perhaps you could do whatever might be appropriate? If not, I think this one will remain stalled for the foreseeable future. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Was it the bad pun that put you off? ;-) If you aren't interested, I can certainly try to find someone else, maybe Crisco when he's fully recovered. Please let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I started looking at it, but it was a bigger job than I had time for at the moment, and I forgot about it... Maybe I'll get to it soon. --Orlady (talk) 18:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about the size of it. If you can get back to it, that would be great. Thank you so much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hackney Chapel

Any idea what this photo has to do with Hackney Chapel? I uploaded it to Commons (it's from 1912), but I wasn't sure how it was related to the church, other than being located in Unitia. Bms4880 (talk) 03:50, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I think you have the right idea regarding "both being located in Unitia". Unitia School apparently was the black school in Unitia. There's a little bit of information about it in the sources for the Hackney Chapel article, but the sources didn't clearly indicate a relationship (unlike St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee) or Durham's Chapel School, where there is a strong connection between church and school).

The Middle Tennessee State University folks had (or possibly still have) a major project to survey historical black churches. Since other community institutions were closely related to the churches, I guess it seemed natural to their archivist to put that school photo into the same bin as the materials about the local black church. --Orlady (talk) 04:03, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church

On 23 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mt. Zion CME Church (pictured) in Union City, Tennessee, has an unusual hipped ceiling? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I just noticed this by accident. Good work, especially since I appreciate my photos getting used :-) Did you find anything about whether the congregation is still in existence? Between the dilapidated appearance and the damaged historical marker (I vaguely remember seeing something about the marker getting hit by a truck), I got the impression that it wasn't used for religious purposes anymore. Nyttend (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I didn't find anything when I researched the article, but after seeing your note, I looked again. I've updated the article. :-) --Orlady (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Nice work

You did a nice job of expanding Christ Temple AME Zion Church to good Start level. Ammodramus (talk) 18:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Durham's Chapel School

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DYK for Durham's Chapel School

On 26 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Durham's Chapel School, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after the U.S. Supreme Court declared school segregation unlawful, a segregated school in Tennessee received new kitchen equipment for use in classes that trained black girls to work as servants? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Durham's Chapel School. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for this contribution from me and the DYK projectVictuallers (talk) 07:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Maximilian Liebenwein

Orlady, Gerda's latest comment contains the phrase "your turn", so I think she wants/needs/is expecting you to take the next step. Can you please take a look to see what needs to be done? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Orlady, I hereby bestow upon you The Barnstar of Diligence for your continued commitment to maintaining the quality and excellence of Misplaced Pages's Did you know project. I've been a big fan of your contributions for many years now, and so I felt that it was fitting to commend your efforts with this small token of my esteem! -- Caponer (talk) 03:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Caponer! As you know, however, I am only one of many -- and some of the others are far more diligent. --Orlady (talk) 13:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/ThePsychoExWife.com

Orlady, the creator has asked a question here, in a response to your previous comment. Did you want to answer it, or should I put out a call for a new reviewer? Please let me know if it's the latter. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

That article had some gnarly issues with POV -- and also problems with presentation and sourcing. Rather than attempt a discussion with an elusive IP user, I've been editing it on-again and off-again (to the extent that my time and my limited patience with tabloid sources and opinionated blogs allow): edits since the anon's last comment. It's getting close to being ready. --Orlady (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Good to know it's being taken care of (and I very much understand about limited patience in that circumstance). BlueMoonset (talk) 14:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Philip Lindsley

On 3 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Philip Lindsley, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Philip Lindsley declined the presidencies of Princeton, Transylvania University, Ohio University, and Dickinson College, but accepted the job at the University of Nashville? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Philip Lindsley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thank you for this article Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Adelia Armstrong Lutz

On 9 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adelia Armstrong Lutz, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that American artist Adelia Armstrong Lutz most liked to paint flowers, especially hollyhocks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adelia Armstrong Lutz. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Talkback

Hello, Orlady. You have new messages at DC788's talk page.
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...William 21:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm bothered by this post of yours too. You accuse of someone of using multiple accounts. Where's your proof and why haven't you started an SPI? Didn't I hear someone not too long ago say 'serious allegations require serious evidence'?...William 22:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not sockpuppetry when the former account is not currently blocked and is not currently in use. But I know a WP:DUCK when I see one, especially with all the IP ducks we've seen. --Orlady (talk) 03:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Blogs fail WP:RS

Please read WP:SPS before editing into the United Bates of America anything that is sourced from a blog....William 02:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

• --Orlady (talk) 03:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

• • And what's that supposed to mean?...William 03:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm campaigning against you now. That and your link above are possible proof of you violating WP:CIVIL You still ignore WP:SPS. For the second time, explain how a wedding announcement and miscarriage are trivia and helping in a campaign and who somebody supports for President isn't? Maybe I should be preparing an ANI post when I get up in the morning....William 03:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The article is supposed to be about a television show. What has happened to these people since the show went off the air isn't relevant to the show. Stars on tv shows, marry divorce have kids etc. after their show goes off the air, but it isn't in the article on the show. Take The Andy Williams Show for just one example. A biography article on the Bates is where it would belong. If its RSd. FWIW Musdan77 thanked me for cutting the trivia and other things out of the article....William 04:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

FTR, the edit that Musdan77 thanked you for was an edit whose main effect was to revert one of the edits in which DC788 had added a lot of the trivia that DC788 had been adding -- and I had been deleting -- over a period of several days. --Orlady (talk) 01:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Nothing new about you campaigning against me. You already declared your intention to follow my work looking for actions that you could attack me for. I refer in particular to your statement that I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!

As for the article, I started it as an article about the family (who are local to my county) before the TV series existed, but after the family seemed to have established notability due to their appearances on another reality TV show. Someone else later recast it as an article about the show. Many of my edits to the article have been aimed at removing unsourced personal details about family members that were added by fans; I've also sparred with this particular user, who has unusual theories about the need for reference citations to describe TV shows, and who believes that information that possibly could be extracted from studying a table should not be presented in text. As for the family, the family continues to receive a lot of attention (partly because continues to appear on that other reality TV show) and family members have been taking advantage of their reality-TV fame for political activities, including their widely documented support for Rick Santorum. The marriage has been in the article for some time, but enthusiasts keep trying to add redundant statements about it, accompanied by information about blog "announcements" of positive pregnancy tests and subsequent miscarriages. I continue to contend that even though a 22-year-old woman announces a miscarriage during the first 3 months of pregnancy in her family blog, that is still a bit of fundamentally private information that does not deserve to be preserved in an encyclopedia; apparently the other user agrees, as they also stopped adding that detail. --Orlady (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Undoing editor's work when they don't follow WP:SPS is something I do.(Not counting UBOA, at least 7 times in my last 5,000 edits) I've written about the use of blogs as sources on my user page. Your failure at that, WP:CIVIL aka responding to my concerns with a link to CNN story about sadistic trolls, WP:IDHT ignoring multiple times my concerns with your edits, and WP:AGF is appalling. Your contradictory behavior at United Bates of America raises WP:COMPETENCE concerns or questions whether you're practicing WP:OWN. Example- You have labelled the same source both not a RS and yourself used it as a source. I'm practicing WP policy but you think its a campaign against you. The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing....William 13:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

When you declared I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!, you clearly indicated why you are now scrutinizing me. This isn't random interest on your part.

As for your accusation of contradictory behavior, I believe you are confusing me with someone else. On what basis did you determine that I was responsible for that second diff of yours? That edit was by IP user 38.108.87.20. As it happens, that's one of the IPs used by the person who is currently editing as DC788. --Orlady (talk) 15:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

You're really very paranoid. I'm fixing wrong edits but you think its malicious. As I said above 'The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing.'...William 22:58, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

If you don't want people to assume that your actions are motivated by personal animus, I suggest that you stop making statements like this and this. --Orlady (talk) 02:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Was this edit not out of personal animus or was it due to total incompetence? I can cite at least three times, here's one of them and here's another where you were told your actions were wrong. Whether your answer is A or B, you shouldn't be an administrator. Resign before you once again bring disgrace to Misplaced Pages or cause harm to someone who didn't do anything to deserve it. Your block of me was overturned because you were dead wrong and you can't admit it. In the meantime I will continue to make sure youf and no other administrator does to some other editor what you did to me. There is nothing wrong with that kind of scrutiny either. Sphilbrick said I didn't have to shut up when he unblocked me. When I am checking on you, if I see articles you worked on that can use further work, I'll continue doing that....William 22:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Quick WP:RDH-style question

Thanks for the comment at my talk. On a totally unrelated matter, as you've probably guessed if you've looked at my latest series of major edits to NR lists, I'm planning another photo trip, which will take me almost through your neck of the woods as well as through lots of other areas all over the place. As far as you're aware right now, are there any big construction projects (or other plannable things, versus problems like car accidents) on I-75 between Chattanooga and Knoxville? The goal is to go to church in Dayton on the morning of the 20th and then go a little past the Cumberland Gap that afternoon; I especially don't feel like getting stuck in a traffic jam if it's something that all the locals (and semi-locals like you) already know about. Nyttend (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

That's an ambitious plan for a 3-day road trip! (I hope you're planning on a bit longer than 3 days, if you want to cover that much territory and take pictures, too.)

I haven't been to Chattanooga recently, so I'm not aware of any construction on I-75 in that direction. The Tennessee DOT website is a fairly good source of info on roadwork on the Interstates, though. Anyway, if you want to go to Dayton, you probably are going to be away from I-75 for a substantial part of your trip. US 27 and state route 58 are a lot more interesting than I-75.

There is a major construction project on I-640 in Knoxville that is causing traffic delays, particularly during rush hour. That's relevant to you because I-75 is concurrent with the western leg of I-640 (I-640W), but I believe that the current construction is on I-640E. Anyway, if you are on a photo trip, your route north from Knoxville to Cumberland Gap might not include I-75.

When traveling in this area, you need to be aware that the ridges and valleys trend SW-NE. Travel across the grain of the topography (for example, on roads like US 25-E) can be slower than the linear distance suggests it should be, but it's often interesting. --Orlady (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the response! I hadn't at all thought of checking the TDOT website, and now that you suggested it, I've found their helpful Smartmap. I'll definitely remember your comment about the across-the-ridge driving — with one exception, all my hill-country driving has been in places like southern Indiana, where the ridges go in random directions, so no direction is naturally simpler or quicker than others. I've got a campsite reservation at Mousetail Landing on Friday night, Saturday I'll work my way to Dayton by way of MS/AL/GA/SC/NC (my parents have friends there, so I'll be indoors one night), another campsite reservation in Harlan County KY on Sunday night, and then north to Ohio to visit family for a week. Definitely not trying to get Indiana-style dense photo coverage or making long detours anywhere on this trip (except for the occasional county with just one or two sites), so the goal is to get something in six states that I've not visited in a long time (or never), and at least one site in almost every county through which I pass. Re your comment about "might not include I-75", I'm looking to go east to Athens and then northeast, and it was a debate between going interstate (and getting off for photos) or just staying on US11 until hopping on the interstate at Lenoir City and taking it as far as northern Knoxville's US441 exit, then state highways toward US25E at Tazewell. I guess I'll stay on I-40 through downtown Knoxville and skip the beltway. Nyttend (talk) 04:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I-40 through Knoxville lacks charm, but you will get a glimpse of the Sunsphere. --Orlady (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Access to deleted version of an article?

Dear Orlady, assuming you're still active in the category of "Misplaced Pages administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles," could I inquire if there's a way to see the version of Alexander McCurdy that was deleted in 2008, according to User_talk:Rbiswanger#Speedy_deletion_of_Alexander_McCurdy? I'm working on the current version of the article, whose history started in 2009 -- and for comparison I'd be very interested to see the article's previous incarnation that disappeared in 2008. Thanks very much for your help, or if you can point me in the right direction. -Patrug (talk) 04:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

You've been talkpagestalking at my talkpage, so I might as well return the favor :-) Patrug, the entire contents were as follows:

Alexander McCurdy was an acclaimed organ teacher at Philadelphia's Curtis Institute of Music and was also organist of the city's First Presbyterian Church. Among his many notable students are Michael Stairs, Keith Chapman and John Binsfeld.

It was deleted under speedy criterion A7, and it was definitely a good candidate. Nyttend (talk) 04:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Got it -- thanks for the quick response! Patrug (talk) 06:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Premium Reviewer Barnstar
		Thank you, Orlady, very much indeed for your tireless and patient hard work and skill in getting the complex article William Swinden Barber through its DYK preparation! Storye book (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the recognition. Meanwhile, I congratulate you on the article! --Orlady (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --Storye book (talk) 21:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Orlady, thank you for reviewing and editing the article for Diamond Ranch Academy! I forgot to mention this in my initial comment on the talk page, but there are also two words in the top section that the past editor added without providing adequate citation. I'm wondering if you could look into this as well? These are the words "misdemeanors" and "felonies" in the first section. Thank you for all of you help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosettej (talk • contribs) 18:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Charles I. Barber - See Also

Well, color me corrected. I don't quite see the point of omitting relevant links while maintaining lists of marginally-related ones, but it does tell me here that it a general rule not to include in a "see also" something that is otherwise referenced in the article. . Who knew? :) Well, I suppose I ought to... I'd still make the case for including his father in this list, since when he appears in the article, it's basically as his father. The rest of the "See Also" list is so marginally related as to be slightly wacky - not at all related by facts, only partially related by chronology, and only tenuously related by topic. The topic, obviously, is "other architects who have lived in Knoxville at any point in time in their lives," but out of a list of hundreds of people who would fit that bill, being that there are four who have existing Misplaced Pages articles, excluding one because he happens to be Charles' father certainly, to my mind, muddles whatever the purpose of the list actually is. I'd argue, contrarily, that common sense would encourage leaving him there. Archarin (talk) 20:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has more policies and guidelines than any one person can possibly expect to be fully versed in... I happen to know about the guidelines for See also sections, and now you do, too!

Rather than adding bloat to the See also section, I suggest that the article could be developed so that (1) it contains more content about his connection to his father and the rest of the family and (2) any items on the "see also" list that are actually relevant to this article are linked within the text of the article. --Orlady (talk) 20:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Orlady is right. Per WP:See also, the section should not contain links to other articles that are already linked to in either the article or any navbox that is in the article....William 13:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:SEEALSO does state that "as a general rule". There are situations where a redundant see also link is appropriate, but those situations are not common. --Orlady (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ladies Rest Room

On 20 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ladies Rest Room, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a ladies' rest room is listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ladies Rest Room. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Rich Farmbrough case clarified

The arbitration clarification request, either involving you, or in which you participated (Rich Farmbrough) has resulted in a clarification motion by the Arbitration Committee

The Clarification can be found at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough#Clarifications_by_motion and the complete discussion can be found at Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough#Clarification_request:_Rich_Farmbrough_.28April_2014.29 For the Arbitration Committee,--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Here again

Dear Orlady, I know I might be asking too much from you now a days, still I like the way you paint an article. Will u please pen through Death and adjustment hypotheses at least for once? I know it might not be a topic you are expert on, but I need some wiki expert who would shape it as a better wiki-article.Bolton007 (talk) 14:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fruitvale, Tennessee

On 23 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fruitvale, Tennessee, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the community of Fruitvale, Tennessee, developed around a railroad switch? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fruitvale, Tennessee. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Emerson Etheridge

On 25 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Emerson Etheridge, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that after Emerson Etheridge returned to the U.S. Congress even though his state had seceded, he was made Clerk of the House of Representatives? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Emerson Etheridge. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd 14:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

ABMS Open University

Hi Orlady,

This entry for Open University of Switzerland has reappeared in a different form ABMS Open University. This was deleted after AFD earlier this year. How does one proceed with this, recommend a PROD? Audit Guy (talk) 10:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I deleted it as a recreation of an article deleted by AFD. --Orlady (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

but the article was made before as an advertisments, now i made just simple article. NO REASON TO DELETE --Mr.Agabi (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC) I am working there and if somebody wrote an article which was full of advertisments and unclear informations and you deleted doesnt mean you allowed to Delete any article written about ABMS GmbH, OTHERWISE we will Prosecute WIKIPEDIA if this unnecessary jokes stop now --Mr.Agabi (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The article was deleted based on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. The advertorial style was not the main reason for deletion. The article was deleted because there were no reliable sources to indicate WP:Notability of the topic or to provide verifiable content for the article. If the only issue had been advertisement-like writing style, it could have been rewritten, but that was not the main issue. --Orlady (talk) 18:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

But Sorry we are new online business School in Switzerland how can you expect to see informations about us everywhere? check our website, you welcome to call us, and if in the article i wrote was anything unclear than please tell me, but just deleting because you didnt find enough sources, its normal because we are new, if you keep deleting than we must Prosecute as person and Misplaced Pages --Mr.Agabi (talk) 18:16, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you are misunderstanding the purpose and scope of Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages is not a platform for announcing or publicizing new organizations. Encyclopedia content must be based on content that has already been published somewhere else by reliable sources independent of the article's subject. Please see WP:NOT and WP:Notability for more information. --Orlady (talk) 18:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

but sorry i can show you 1 million article on wikipedia and dont have reliable sources and sorry you can find about us on Governments website and other website like QS-TopUniversities, Educations and many other websites, i can list 100 websites well known for education. tell me what is the solution now? can i write a normal article with reliable sources about or school OR we not allowed to write about our organization on Misplaced Pages because you decided we are not reliable sources? we need to know what to tell our lawyer when we start the case against you. thank you --Mr.Agabi (talk) 18:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

should i make another article with reliable sources like Governments website, QS... and than you have look on it, if OK tell me and keep it, and hope to solve this problem without going to court, because it will be just headache for both of us but if court is the only solution for us to be on wikipedia than we will do it. I am trying here to find a solution, i hope you too. please tell me should i create new article or no. thank you --Mr.Agabi (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

I believe that the sources you mention are not reliable sources for purposes of Misplaced Pages. A new article based on those sources would be subject to deletion based on the conclusion of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. If you believe that the conclusion of that discussion was incorrect, I suggest that you contact the administrator who closed the discussion (write to him at User talk:Stifle). --Orlady (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

A Governments website is not reliable sources thats new to hear... for sure now you tell me to contact somebody else --Mr.Agabi (talk) 19:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The government website indicates only that this institution is a registered business. That information does not indicate notability and it is not a sufficient basis for writing an article.

I will explain why I suggested that you contact User:Stifle. It is becoming clear that you will not accept what I am telling you. That means that your next step is to ask for a formal reconsideration of the deletion decision. The Misplaced Pages procedure for disputing a deletion decision says that your first step should be to contact the administrator who deleted the article. --Orlady (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

By the way, earlier you said you would prosecute Misplaced Pages for refusing to include this article. That is not a good way to convince other Misplaced Pages users to do something. In fact, threats of legal action can cause your editing access to be blocked. --Orlady (talk) 19:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

• Hi Orlady, Academy of Business Management article has now been created in place of ABMS Open University. It still lacks sources, and in my opinion continues not to be notable. I was wondering - were you contacted prior to its write up? Audit Guy (talk) 12:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

I have deleted that article as a recreation of an article deleted earlier by XfD. I was unaware of it before seeing your message. --Orlady (talk) 22:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Thanks. Audit Guy (talk) 12:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Many thanks for expanding the Fruitvale, Tennessee article. It was on Nyttend's Zipcode Directory and I started the article with help from The Catalyst31. Again my thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.

RFD (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

I was suspicious of that myself, but I didn't have the time to go through with the bureaucratic bits today; thanks for looking into it. You also might want to look into A1Houseboy, who has a similar pattern of editing (and is tied to this suspicious edit). TheCatalyst31 04:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

I had looked at that user briefly, but clearly I should have looked more closely. The recent edit on your talk page clinched it for me. I blocked that user temporarily and added the user name to the SPI case. --Orlady (talk) 04:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chicagoland (TV series)

Orlady, given your issues with the earlier versions of this article, I was hoping you could stop by and check the finished version to see whether it now meets DYK standards. If you're not interested in reviewing it again, let me know here and I'll put the "again" icon on it. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

WP:INTDABLINK

Hi! Please don't pipe intentional disambiguation links like this - the "(disambiguation)" needs to be in the link itself to keep the page from showing up as an error. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

The real issue should be with the person who created those disambiguation pages back in 2008 and didn't bother to interlink St. Paul's United Methodist Church and St. Paul's Methodist Church, but never mind that... --Orlady (talk) 00:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Charles Inman

On 15 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charles Inman, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that, as a member of the Tennessee legislature after the Civil War, Charles Inman supported measures to deny voting rights to former Confederates? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Inman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Page Edits ]

Orlady,

Thank you for posting your explanation with your edits. While the institution is not accredited through an external agency, the references to the U.S. Armed Services warning about diploma mills is not relevant in this situation. Hyles-Anderson College is approved for for VA Benefits through the Indiana Commission for Postsecondary Proprietary Education. The four warnings listed in the linked reference page do not apply:

• The school does not require studying, tests or essays.
• The school boasts of accreditation, i.e., “fully, nationally or worldwide accredited,” but has no legitimate accreditation.
• The school relies on “portfolio assessments” or “life experience.”
• The school advertises through e-mail messages sent to millions.

The reference cited in regard to public schools not accepting unnacredited degrees is a broken link (http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos069.htm#training) and gives a blanket statement that does not give a true representation of the degree programs offered. Pandeboyce (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Category: People from Kingsport, Tennessee

In this edit of yours you removed the category 'People from Washington County, Tennessee'. I am relinking 'People from Kingsport, Tennessee' to that category because that city is partially in Washington County. Consensus is that if a 'People from' city category is even a slightest bit in multiple counties, it gets categorized in all of them. Please note 'People from Johnson City, Tennessee' and how its categorized in three 'People from' county categories though most of the city lies in Washington County....William 18:57, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to lecture me about an edit I made over 4 years ago. I suppose you find it gratifying to take me to task for every mistake I ever made.

As it happens, I didn't even make the mistake you accuse me of. If you read the history, you will see the category had been configured to include all people from any part of a 4-county area as "people from Kingsport." My edit changed the category description to indicate that it is only for people from Kingsport, and not also people from places like Bristol, Virginia, and I removed it from inappropriate categories like Category:Bristol, Virginia and Category:People from Washington County, Virginia. Contrary to your allegations here, I didn't remove it from Category:People from Washington County, Tennessee -- because it wasn't previously in that category. --Orlady (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Assistance

I noticed that you were instrumental in creating the page on Betty Bumpers, also with the information on Peace Links. I just had a page sanitized concerning an event that Betty and Peace Links were involved with a number of years ago. I was wondering if you would consider being of some assistance to getting some information restored and a image. Thank you 24.251.41.161 (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Did you Know?

I addressed your concerns on the DYK for Gilbert & Sullivan Opera Company at the nomination's entry. Please see if it looks ok to you now. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I've looked at the changes, and I've not replied because I'm not sure what I think. --Orlady (talk) 03:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic District

On 25 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic District, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the courthouse on the public square in Shelbyville, Tennessee, is the successor to earlier courthouses that were destroyed by tornado, wartime misadventure, and a lynch mob? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic District. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!

		The 100 DYK Nomination Medal
		Congratulations for reaching this milestone of making other editors' articles visible from the main page. Keep up your good work! Oceanh (talk) 16:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello Orlady. I recall the good work you did on the Hillsdale College article, which included a lot of primary sourced description and other text. I wonder whether you could have a look at the Stefan Molyneux article, on which several editors have expressed concerns about the sourcing. Any participation there would be appreciated. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 03:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Nuts and bolts, but mostly nuts

Re a posting by me that you responded to. I just want you to know my comment was not meant as a slip-up on your part, but a comment on mine. I think our nerves are a little edgy these days. Bad karma does that. I've not nominated anything since the gang blew into town. It's just too unpleasant to think about. Not that there isn't room for betterment straight across WP. But that's getting lost behind barf bag behavior. I realize you have been targeted lately. As has everybody, it seems, who dares to breathe and exist on the planet. Some sure know how to suck the joy right out of the room, but you would not be one of those. Didn't want any misunderstanding coming from me. — Maile (talk) 19:03, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining your words. I must say that I was perplexed by what seemed like negativity from you. I'm sorry that I responded as I did. My nerves are most definitely on edge these days whenever I go near DYK. This too shall pass, I hope... --Orlady (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

So we're cool with each other now. I enjoy running across your work now and then over in the "greenest state in the land of the free", over in Davy's stomping grounds. — Maile (talk) 19:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, yes, that interesting man who much preferred to be "David", but apparently is "Davy" forevermore. After you created the category recently, I was pleased to help populate it... --Orlady (talk) 19:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I think I made an initial comment on the TN project that it would be good to see that article as FA. And it would. However, since I made that comment, I've had a small experience on the Featured level: FA, FL, FLC and a GA, with the intent of reaching FTC. None of which I started out to do with my first cleaning up of references tagging on the original article. A learning curve, to be sure. And a learning curve that makes me realize that even if I had every resource ever published, I could never get Death controversy past the first hurdles. But I can dream that someone else can. — Maile (talk) 19:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

On the whole, I'd rather work on creating "good enough" content than on collecting "credits" from GA, FA, etc. I did shepherd a couple of lists through FL a long time ago, and I did a number of FLC reviews. I learned a good bit from that experience. I also have done a very wee bit of GA reviewing, and I had a small role in supporting Hawkeye7's eff ort that got Manhattan Project promoted to FA. That article had been subject to a good bit of edit warring before the FA campaign, and since then it's been pretty stable. If you ever get the courage to attempt something similar for Davy, maybe it would put an end to the battles over his death. Or maybe not... --Orlady (talk) 20:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I've been working 18 months on Audie Murphy. What started out as one poorly written article has now become six separate articles/lists on him personally, plus one about his book, and two others about a museum and hospital named for him. Who would have known? Sources on Murphy are limited. It's not at the end of the line yet. It taught me a great deal about editing at WP and how a really-properly formatted article should be. I owe a lot to the folks at WP:MILHIST for that. I can see separate articles on Crockett, for his Congressional career and for his death. Way more sources to pour through on him than Murphy.

Re Crockett's death, I prefer to believe the people who were actually inside the Alamo and attest to where he died. Even if we AGF that de la Peña told it as he believed it to be...how did he identify who was who? No photo IDs in those days. Probably didn't have their names sewn into their underwear. We don't to this day know 100% who was inside the mission, so they didn't have a list of names. What was to stop somebody from claiming to be celebrity David Crockett in hopes of being given preferential treatment? I did see Discovery channel MythBusters on this. I believe they said de la Peña's diary was written by different people over different periods of time. However...as we are living through right now...there are those among us who want to keep an argument going just to feel important. — Maile (talk) 21:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Please help me

I cannot fix this typo (government) and I noticed that someone wrote stuff like:

"The Council are having to sell off assets because for two decades their chief executives for some reason best known to themselves were not aware that women were being underpaid, and this initiated a flood of claims from other employees past and present with crippling results to Birmingham's prestige as the Second City. Liam Bryne the Labour MP for Hodge Hill has so far failed to support residents in their fight to have these sub-standard and dangerous blocks bulldozed."

on the Bromford article but I am unsure what to do. Poveglia (talk) 03:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts to correct misspellings of "government." That's a good way to get started as an editor of Misplaced Pages.

You couldn't correct the typo in State of Palestine because that article is protected from editing by newly registered users -- a restriction that helps prevent the frequent addition of opinionated rhetoric, like the content you found at Bromford.

I fixed the problems you detected in both articles, and I added a comment at Talk:Bromford. --Orlady (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help! I may have to declare war on goverment. Poveglia (talk) 23:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering you again but I found more "opinionated rhetoric" here. I started by fixing the typo, but then I reverted back to Dual Freq's version. The IP is blocked now but I am not sure if the most recent edit should be reverted. Thanks again, Poveglia (talk) 02:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

That last edit was OK. The content that was deleted didn't belong in an encyclopedia article. See WP:NOTNEWS and WP:UNDUE for perspective on the Misplaced Pages policies that indicate why that content didn't belong here. --Orlady (talk) 13:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Paratropis tuxtlensis DYK

Would I be safe in assuming that there's no longer any chance for my DYK? I'm new to Did you know, so I don't know how this works. G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 00:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

No worries. We are waiting for a new reviewer to appear at Template:Did you know nominations/Paratropis tuxtlensis and evaluate the hook that I suggested. I expect that the hook will be approved, but I can't approve it because I wrote it. --Orlady (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

• Okay. Thanks for the reply! G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 13:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Argentine quota law

On 13 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Argentine quota law, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 1991 Argentine quota law, which sets minimum quotas of female candidacies to legislatures, was emulated by eleven other Latin American countries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Argentine quota law. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 11:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Land ownership in the State of Palestine

Hello Orlady, your name came up in the history of the page so I figured I will approach you with this problem. The above linked article was stable for a number of years with the name Palestinian land laws. An editor came along moved it three times in one day and finally decided on the name above. This is obviously a controversial move and this should have gone through the process at WP:RM. It can only be moved back by an administrator which is why I come to your talk page. Can you please move it back so the stable name so that any proposal should go through the proper process required for such non-technical moves. Many thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee)

On 24 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the wealthy couple who built the Episcopal church in Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee, had shocked Nashville society with their 1864 marriage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 21:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for George A. Dickel

On 29 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George A. Dickel, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that George A. Dickel, who gave his name to a brand of Tennessee whiskey, immigrated to the United States from Germany? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George A. Dickel. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 02:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

July 2014

Hello, I'm WilliamJE. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. For your less mature editor comment at User talk:EEng. ...William 13:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

How lovely to know that you are continuing in your personal vendetta against me, User:WilliamJE. The folks who created Wikilove will surely be gratified to see the tool being used for personal attacks. --Orlady (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Lena Nyadbi

Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this. The article was apparently expanded by banned user Russavia using an IP, and probably using a different IP to intervene in the DYK discussion. It's been sitting for 19 days; I'd like to get it broken free by an admin who better understands the issues around banned users, since I can remember some instances of nominations getting closed and some where they were preserved (though that difference might be due to self-nominations not surviving, while noms by others were retained). Thanks for anything you can do here; if you'd rather not weigh in, I'll see who else might be willing to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bemis, Tennessee

On 4 August 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bemis, Tennessee, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the designer of the company town of Bemis, Tennessee tried to make the community look like it had grown over time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bemis, Tennessee. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

NPOV issue on Kevin Huffman page

Hi, orlady. Since you have edited this page in the past, I wanted to let you know that there is a NPOV issue on the latest revision to the Kevin Huffman page. It was made by Sallysuzzi at 04:34, 23 July 2014.

The added text is as follows:

"Since his appointment, Huffman has become known for messing up Tennessee's education system with unfair teacher evaluations. A record breaking number of teachers have left the profession due to Huffman's tactics. Children as young as age 5 had to take developmentally inappropriate standardized test under Huffman's lead. The SAT-10 test that many of the students took for teacher evaluation purposes was not based on Tennessee state standards. This means teachers were and still are evaluated based on a test that does not cover the material they teach. As a result many teachers have lost their jobs and a campaign has been launched by many state representatives and others calling for his resignation."

Thanks for taking a look at this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.142.177.102 (talk) 15:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert. I edited the article. --Orlady (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

List of municipalities in Tennessee

Hello, Orlady:

List of municipalities in Tennessee is outdated, and not, in its current state, one of Misplaced Pages's best. Thus, I'm nominating it for featured list removal. The relevant discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Featured list removal candidates/List of municipalities in Tennessee/archive1. Thanks. Seattle (talk) 15:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

HOP Ranch

Hi orlady,

The subject article was published this past weekend, and I've been trying to get it placed in WikiProject areas that make the most sense. I believe HOP Ranch may fit better in American Old West than anywhere else.

I also feel strongly that it is well beyond start class. I think it's at least class B. I'm wondering if you might consider reviewing it and evaluating for yourself.

Thanks in advance!

Dnforney (talk) 23:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you please review my DYK reviews

Hello User:Orlady, I am a relatively new editor and I saw a message on the Administrator Noticeboard saying that DYK was overdue. I would like to help as much as humanly possible, so I have proceeded to do 4 DYK reviews. Before doing so I read the DYK guidelines. The reviews I have done are:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Harold Cressy
• Template:Did you know nominations/Beck's tree frog
• Template:Did you know nominations/Lena Nyadbi
• Template:Did you know nominations/Open-crotch pants‎

I would be happy to do more if there is a need for it. I saw your name on one review so before I do more could you please review my reviews and advise me if I am doing everything ok. Many thanks, PNGWantok (talk) 19:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Concordia College and University

Can you visit the Concordia College and University article? I know you have history on it and I'm hoping you can help resolve a conflict. There is information in the talk page under Location section changes.

ThanksBcostley (talk) 03:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Desisto stuff

May I beg you help with something I'm trying reorganize and get rid of the POV stuff I put in ages ago when I was a newbie. I don't know how to do stuff like redirecting sections. Basically the school stuff doesn't belong in the Michael DeSisto article. However a hotlink or howver it's done should point to the controversies section of DeSisto School to make both articles cleaner.

Template:Did you know nominations/Raphinae

Orlady, both the nominator and editor of the article have commented since your last post here. I can't figure out where this stands; can you please take another look, and take whatever step comes next? Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:03, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Pocahontas School

On 10 September 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pocahontas School, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Pocahontas School, a Tennessee public school for white children, did not have indoor plumbing until 1957? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pocahontas School. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Rocky Top

What topography described in the song's lyrics is found East TN, but not Middle or West TN? Bms4880 (talk) 22:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, start with the juxtaposition "rocky" and "top" (often interpreted to refer to the Smoky Mountains, notwithstanding the claims of the former Lake City), which indicates rugged mountain topography, not rolling hills. Then there are the lyrics about the two strangers who climbed on rocky top -- "climbing" suggests a significant amount of topographic expression -- and soil that's too rocky to grow corn. To me, those characteristics set the song in East Tennessee -- unless you want to quibble that those conditions can also be found in places in easternmost Middle Tennessee (e.g., Fentress, Pickett, or Sequatchie counties). What's your thinking on this? --Orlady (talk) 23:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

It's widely documented (or at least claimed) to have been written in Gatlinburg: , . Every speculation I've ever seen about "where is Rocky Top" has always referred to places in East Tennessee (for example: ). --Orlady (talk) 23:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I couldn't help but notice that paragraph #3 in that last article you cited was copied-and-pasted from the Misplaced Pages article. In any case, the song is more popular with East Tennesseans, and the Bryants were probably thinking of the Smokies when they wrote it, but it is speculation to say the song's lyrics refer specifically to East Tennessee. Bms4880 (talk) 21:12, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Valid point. User:WilliamJE has fixed the article. --Orlady (talk) 14:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't mean to get your old friend WilliamJE involved. Bms4880 (talk) 17:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mendelsohn house

Orlady, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at this nomination, which has been stalled for four weeks after a disagreement over the article's neutrality. Please let me know. Thanks as always for your excellent work on DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:17, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Annadel, Tennessee

Hello Orlady, My name is Roni Freels. I am concerned about the article on your talk page referring to my hometown Annadell, Tennessee. I have information for the gentleman who apparently is arguing that Annadell is located in Scott county. I was born in the Annadell area of Lancing, Tenn. You are absolutely right about the Annadell Baptist church. My daddy helped to construct the earlier church, not the one standing in the same place today. We lived only a few feet from the church. I remember many Sunday's listening my daddy teach my class. I am crushed that the man writing the response to you that Annadell does not exist. I certainly can attest to its presence. Directly before my daddy passed away he turned the land he owned over to Guy Griffith, a friend and member of the Annadell Baptist Church. The reason my dad gave them the land was to establish another cemetery where he preffered to be buried. He and my mother are both buried in the Annadell cemetery directly across the road from the church. My daddy wanted to be buried under the tree where he and my mother courted, and that is exactly where he is. His grave is at the top of the cemetery next to the road marked "Freels". Perhaps if the one in question would look in the Lancing area on route 27 he would find the road to the cemetery across from the old Haun place. Thank you for your talk. Perhaps this will help. God Bless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.20.59 (talk) 22:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Deleting my article

Can you please tell me why it was deleted? I see your reason however its because the school didnt have any accreditation that time, now if you can see on the article it has many accreditations. please check again before deleting. thanks--Markos200 (talk) 00:30, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Are you asking about Academy of Business Management? I deleted that article because it was substantially a re-creation of an article that was deleted earlier following a deletion discussion, specifically the discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. --Orlady (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

But did you not see the different ? when the discussion was going on, that time didnt have any accreditation, now you can see its accredited and member by well know accreditation bodies. Please check again, its almost 1 year old the reason of deleting, there are updated information which I wrote on the new article, CHECK: http://www.asicuk.com/international-directory/ OR http://www.acbsp.org/members/?id=27157770 OR http://www.asiqual.com/become-an-asiqual-centre/asiqual-centre-list/recognised-centres OR http://www.ecbe.eu/index.php?id=10 OR http://www.iqsuk.com/certificate-authenticity/?company_name_search=ABMS&cert_reg_number_search=&product_name_search=&sort=ASC&order=company_name OR http://www.efqm.org/about-us/our-community/our-members OR http://qisan.com/members/institutional-members/ OR http://www.bha.org.uk/bha_members/a-b-m-s-education-group/ and many more if you are interested :) --Markos200 (talk) 23:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

The article was deleted for lack of evidence of notability. The article that I deleted was much the same as the one deleted after the earlier deletion discussion. The fact that this organization appears on the lists that you cite here does not make it notable by Misplaced Pages's criteria. Additionally, your citations do not convince me that ABMS is accredited. --Orlady (talk) 13:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

The new article I wrote was with MANY additional links to WELL KNOW accreditation bodies, I spent hours to prepare it, if my citations didn't convince you maybe because you dont know the links I sent you :) I dont need to convince you if its accredited or not, you are not ministry of education, we are here to help in order to improve wikipedia articles, BUT ANYWAY let me explain you about the links I sent if you dont have time to know about it, but please note, I am not responsible here to convince you, we just write true facts, even if it didnt convince you.

I have sent you too many links and I have more, I dont want to spend hours on explaining you, let me just give short information to you:

• 1. ASIC (they are accredited by them) : is an educational accreditation agency recognised by the British Government's Home Office<ref>UK Home Office Guide</ref><ref>UK Home Office, VAT9</ref>

- IF ASIC and British Government (Home Office ITS A MINISTRY in UK its not a private company) are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

• 2. they are Recognized by ASIQUAL (ASIQUAL) is a private Accreditation agency recognised by Ofqual.gov.uk <ref>OFQUAL Recognition Number RN5303</ref><ref>Ofqual-Regulated Qualifications through SFEDI Awards</ref> through their partner SFEDI Awards.<ref>SFEDi AWARDS</ref>

- IF OFQUAL, SFEDI, ASIQUAL are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

• 3. They signed an agreement with NCC to accredit them (NCC National Computing Centre, NCC Education was first established as an IT initiative by the British Government in 1966 and NCC Education is accredited by Qualifications and Curriculum Authority (QCA) and regulated by Ofqual. Recognised by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (DBIS) in the UK.<ref name="DBIS">, DIUS - Further Education.</ref>

- IF NCC, DCSF, Ofqual, DBIS is not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

• 4. its member by (ACBSP) on January 22, 2001, the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) Board of Directors granted recognition to the ACBSP.<ref>CHEA Directory</ref> On September 19, 2011 The CHEA renewed its recognition of the ACBSP for a further 10 years.<ref>CHEA Recognition Summary</ref> its just a member not accredited but a member means that this school is equivalent to US Regionally accredited institutions or at least has right to grant degrees

- IF ACBSP and CHEA are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

• 5. its member by ECBE, (ECBE is a registered affiliate of the European Association for Quality Assurance in Higher Education (ENQA).<ref>"AFFILIATES ENQA". http://www.enqa.eu. {{cite journal}}: External link in |journal= (help)</ref>) and they are working on ECBE accreditation as well, you can call ECBE president.

- IF ECBE and ENQA are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source. DO YOU WANT MORE we still have many links, like EFQM, ISO...?? Believe me, they are more accredited than 90% of schools with articles on Misplaced Pages. Please check links I sent you before just writing an answer. before I wrote this article, I called the accreditation bodies, I checked links, I wanted make sure what I write. I didnt spend hours on preparing an article in the end you say (do not convince me) I am not here to convince you, we are here to write true facts, if you are willing to know the truth you have to search not just read and say didn't convince me, please check before you answer I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, ALL THOSE LINKS ABOVE they were not in discussion 1 year ago :) how can you say its the same, I am surprised --Markos200 (talk) 14:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

If you think that appearing on a bunch of online lists (regardless of who published those lists) is sufficient to make an organization notable by Misplaced Pages standards, then you haven't comprehended ] and WP:ORG. --Orlady (talk) 03:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

lets make it point by point, now you agreed that my new article was not similar to old article, that's great :) finally, but again my long explanation and after 4 days didnt convince Orlady, I know very well what a notability source is, but if all above links for you are not notability sources it means there are no more notability sources, I gave you links up a ministerial department of the Government of the United Kingdom but you still dont like, I am afraid to tell you show me HOW my links are not notability sources, start to give me examples if you can. REMEMBER you are here to write true facts and not your opinion. People are not interested to read on WIKIPEDIA what Orlady believing, they are interested to see true facts and Misplaced Pages is the right place where we should be neutral when we write something.

Links I gave you

• British Government
• Home Office (ministerial department of the Government of the United Kingdom, responsible for immigration, security, and law and order. As such it is responsible for the police, UK Visas and Immigration, and the Security Service (MI5)
• ASIC (Recognized accreditation in UK, in UK you cant enter as student if your school or university not accredited by ASIC, QAA or BAC, just for you to know how important is this accreditation)
• SFEDI (Accredited Qualifications)
• Ofqual (its Part of Ministry of Education in UK)
• ASIQUAL (Accredited Qualifications)
• National Computing Centre (established as an Information technology initiative by the British Government in 1966 and Recognized by Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (DBIS) in the UK)
• ACBSP USA I hope you know it :) because you are from USA :)
• CHEA USA I hope you know it :) because you are from USA :)
• ECBE (well known accreditation body in Europe)
• European Association for Quality Assurance in Higher Education (ENQA) IF you dont know this organization you better check :)
• EFQM (European first quality for management)
• ISO (I think you know it :)

AND MANY MORE... ALL THOSE LINKS DIDN'T HAVE 1 year ago in the discussion. What I can offer you in order to solve this discussion is to prepare a better article with many notability sources like british Government, CHEA, ENQA..., I will re-write it with all those new links and you may check, if you like it, means keep it, if not we can discuss again, because just ignoring true facts wont help you as administrator on Misplaced Pages, those links are well known worldwide and people use them as notability sources and nobody can say no. if ok, please inform me. thanks --Markos200 (talk) 09:43, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

List of city nicknames in the United States

I'd like to re-organize this article, and I want to get the backstory first. What can you tell me about any history and plan for this article? See also Talk:List_of_city_nicknames_in_the_United_States#Slogans.3F. I'll be reading the talk page meanwhile. Tom Haws (talk) 18:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Guilford Glazer

Hello. Guilford Glazer died last Tuesday. I've added a reference (just got the e-mail). I will add an infobox. Funny that we are both interested in TN and BH!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Historically segregated white schools in the United States

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Oak Ridge gatehouses

I was wondering if you could provide a reference for the last sentence in the History section on the Oak Ridge gatehouses: The Bethel Valley Road large structure was painted in 2005 but there has been no restoration or other attention to the interiors of the two Bethel Valley structures and the small structures at the other sites. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:13, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I've found (and inserted) a reference that supports some of the content there. I'm sure that there was a more complete source at one time. --Orlady (talk) 02:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC) Further: The source of the information seems to be User:SmithDRay, who also happens to be the person quoted in the reference I cited. I can vouch for the truth of the statement that there has been no restoration of the Bethel Valley structure or the small structure at the other sites. If I wanted to know what year the Bethel Valley structure was painted, I'd ask D. Ray, as he probably has the records in his office. (But that's a detail that Misplaced Pages probably doesn't need.) --Orlady (talk) 03:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

X-10 Graphite Reactor

Hi Orlady. This is just to let you know that there is an article up at AfD about the X-10 reactor: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/World's First Nuclear Power Generated Electricity Used A Jensen 50 Steam Engine. Not canvassing here or anything, but the user (User talk:Reddrryder) may introduce himself soon on the talk page of the article, which has been pretty quiet lately. He has some information about X-10 as the world's first nuclear power generator, and as far as I can see it's not in the article yet. So if he does show up, can somebody give him a welcome? Thanks. – Margin1522 (talk) 10:33, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Burritt College

Hi, I need you to review Burritt College for me. It seems that CorenSearchBot thinks I copied copyrighted material. :( --ACase0000 (talk) 06:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Just a quick note: while there was no straight-up copyvio, the Corenbot notice was probably triggered by WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. I did some further rewording, and added material from two other sources, so it should be safe. Bms4880 (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Sedona Sky Academy#Sedona Sky Academy - Copper Canyon Academy

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User:PBS

You may remember this RFC. Unfortunately, PBS has ignored your advice and is once again using exactly the same arguments on Talk:Guy Fawkes Night. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of it. Is there anything to be done? Parrot of Doom 22:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Clinton Engineer Works

I have Clinton Engineer Works up for Good Article nomination. Since you're an expert, would you consider reviewing it? If you have the time. Regards. Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Where's Orlady?

Orlady, where are you? It seems strange without seeing you around WP once in a while. Your last edit was 6 months ago. Just - poof! with no explanation? — Maile (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Where is Orlady? Bms4880 (talk) 22:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I suppose it could be said I've found new ways to waste my time. I had no idea it had been so long, though! --Orlady (talk) 23:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Good to know you're OK, and just engaged in other activities. — Maile (talk) 12:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Orlady, it is good to hear back from you! With every good wish...Audit Guy (talk) 03:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

• Indeed. We sure do miss you. All the best. Drmies (talk) 21:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• It's reassuring to see that you are still at least watching your talk page. You are missed both as a solid content contributor, also for your opinions on debates, and as an admin. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bates family

Hello Orlady,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Bates family for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Mr RD (talk) 15:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi orlady. Someone connected to the program is deletingn large amounts of sourced contributions on the Island View RTC page claiming, again, that the name is changed so it is not historically relevant. I disagree. Please address. It would be most appreciated. 166.170.49.153 (talk)- —Preceding undated comment added 08:55, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

OIKOS Software Inc. page deletion

Hi Orlady You are listed as a editor that could provide a copy of a deleted page that was done in August 2015 as part of a huge deletion list under orangemoody. This is very confusing to our business a we thought a reliant wiki editor put up the page. It appears this person we was impersonating a wiki editor. Now we are deleted. Based on our recollection, there was no copyright issues on the page, but could have been deleted for such. Can you help us? We would like someone like yourself to tell us why it was taken down. Kind regards, Janice Leahy50.247.201.61 (talk) 19:40, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

This has been handled at https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#OIKOS_Software.2C_Inc. --Orlady (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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AfD of an article you created

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/International Association of Educators for World Peace - as it stands, that's a really terrible article with one editor making huge additions since your stub. Doug Weller talk 12:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Cheryl Arutt COI

Hi old friend. I just got off the phone with her sister and she was screaming at me and says Cheryl thinks I'm stalking her. I did the best I could to polish the article breaking it into sections etc. However, Cheryl herself wrote the bulk of the article herself. She is a COI editor, and I'm likely a little bit myself. I would ask you to take a look at it. Inho all the primary sources have to be chopped. The article is imbalanced overcited in some areas and sorely lacking sources in others. Is there anyway we can whittle it back to a stub by losing the weak cites, the trivial unsourced claims, and quite frankly self-indulgent puffery that I whittled away some from her article. She really is barely notable when you don't count the primary sources which are all redundant anyways I know you edit fast so that's why I'm asking you. Cheryl Arutt--Wlmg (talk) 07:42, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll give it a try. So far I've made a couple of very minor edits. --Orlady (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

There may also may be a copyright vios issue on the pic as it is not a snapshot , but a screen shot from a Ted talk. Thank you for your help. --Wlmg (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

GARs

Orlady, you opened two individual GA reassessments back in August 2013: Talk:Entranceway at Main Street at Roycroft Boulevard/GA2 and Talk:Entranceways at Main Street at Lamarck Drive and Smallwood Drive/GA2.

You listed a number of significant concerns at the time, including possible overclose paraphrasing, broadness (not covering some areas, while covering others in excessive detail), OR, etc. You also raised the question as to whether the two articles ought to be combined into a general article on entranceways.

It is past time, three years later, to wind up these reassessments. As the issues you raised were significant, I don't think it's appropriate just to shut them down without a current assessment.

I'm hoping you return soon, and will be willing to post a comment to each of these. In the meantime, I plan to ask Nikkimaria to assess both articles as to possible close paraphrasing, and once she's done that, ask Wizardman to look over your points and see whether they have been adequately addressed. I did post a Status query to the Lamarck Drive GAR, pinging both you and TonyTheTiger, who replied and could thus work on any remaining issues.

Thanks, and I hope you are well, even if not here much any more. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Orlady, I appreciate the response on the reassessment pages. As I noted there, you're the official reviewer, and these are both individual reassessments. As you clearly believe these articles do not meet the GA criteria at the present time, it's up to you to delist them. (Instructions are at WP:GAR; I can take care of the technicalities if that part is a problem.) If you're not going to do that, then the other option is to close the reassessment with no action taken (effectively "kept"). (Again, I can take care of the technicalities.) If you don't want to make a decision but still want this pursued, then once your individual reassessments have been closed, a community reassessment could be opened, as TonyTheTiger mentions, but not while the individual ones remain open. Please post your decision on the reassessment pages. I don't feel I can act absent specific instructions on your part. Thanks again. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:48, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Orlady, this is just a final ping. Since you haven't taken further action per the above, I'm going to consult with one more person who is quite experienced at GAR (though on the community side) to see what they recommend, and go with that unless you respond sooner. I hope you're having a very happy New Year. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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S-50 (Manhattan Project)

Back in 2006 you saved S-50 (Manhattan Project) from being merged. I thought you might enjoy seeing what it looks like now. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:53, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Vernon Jarrett

Hi, could you please weigh in on this issue? --bender235 (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Notable people of Oak Ridge, Tennessee

Per here, these sections are for people born or lived in a community. Not worked, went to school, or died. I put a proper heading on the section (Which I notice you were the one to add(https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?oldid=147980573&diff=prev]) and removed entries who are only on it for their affiliation with Oak Ridge Laboratories....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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You're welcome for the Barnstar!

Also, whether you want to come back to the DYK? section or not is completely up to you. Personally, I myself have generally alternated between being very active on Misplaced Pages versus not being very active. Indeed, it all depends on what exactly works best for you! :) Futurist110 (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

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WikiProject Western Governors University

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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)

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Category:Online schools in Wisconsin has been nominated for discussion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Lists of power stations by continent

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Update

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:National_Baptist_Convention,_USA,_Inc.#Membership_numbers Thought this might be of interest to you.  ; ) Shai-Huludim (talk) 18:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tate Springs Springhouse

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

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please move deleted page content to user page

Edits, several paragraphs, and the references I contributed to the page, Win-Win Games, have been deleted from Misplaced Pages. I would like to save the content from it to improve my contribution. Would you please copy the version which was before Mover of Molehills edited it, to my user page? Russell Moxie (talk) 21:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC) Russell Moxie (talk) 21:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

How do I transfer that link to my user page?

Thanks so much, Orlady! How do I put it into my user page? Will that include references like they were formatted on the win-win game page? Russell Moxie (talk) 02:17, 28 July 2021 (UTC) Russell Moxie (talk) 02:17, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Where is the source code? Sorry I can’t find it. I appreciate your help!Russell Moxie (talk) 15:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC) Russell Moxie (talk) 15:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Would you please copy my last version of win-win games before it was edited by Mover of molehills to my sandbox? I’d like to work on improving it. Sorry I can’t find the source code. I appreciate your help!Russell Moxie (talk) 16:03, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Swedish nuclear weapons program timeline

Template:Swedish nuclear weapons program timeline has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Izno (talk) 03:26, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Trinity Southwest University for deletion

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Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled

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How we will see unregistered users

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Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Rejuvenate WikiProject Skepticism

Hello - my name is Susan Gerbic (Sgerbic) and I'm writing to you because at some point you joined Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Skepticism. This might have been months ago - or even years ago. With the best of intentions the project was created years ago, and sadly like many WikiProjects has started to go dormant. A group of us are attempting to revitalize the Skepticism project, already we have begun to clean up the main page and I've just redone the participant page. No one is in charge of this project, it is member directed, which might have been the reason it almost went dormant. We are attempting to bring back conversations on the talk page and have two subprojects as well, in the hopes that it might spark involvement and a way of getting to know each other better. One was created several years ago but is very well organized and a lot of progress was made, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Skepticism/Skeptical organisations in Europe. The other I created a couple weeks ago, it is very simple and has a silly name Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Skepticism/Skepticism Stub Sub-Project Project (SSSPP). This sub-project runs from March 1 to June 1, 2022. We are attempting to rewrite skepticism stubs and add them to this list. As you can see we have already made progress.

The reason I'm writing to you now is because we would love to have you come back to the project and become involved, either by working on one of the sub-projects, proposing your own (and managing it), or just hanging out on the talk page getting to know the other editors and maybe donate some of your wisdom to some of the conversations. As I said, no one is in charge, so if you have something in mind you would like to see done, please suggest it on the talk page and hopefully others will agree. Please add the project to your watchlist, update your personal user page showing you are a proud member of WikiProject Skepticism. And DIVE in, this is what the work list looks like frightening at first glance, but we have already started chipping away at it.

The Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Skepticism/Participants page has gone though a giant change - you may want to update your information. And of course if this project no longer interests you, please remove your name from the participant list, we would hate to see you go, but completely understand.

Thank you for your time, I hope to edit with you in the future.Sgerbic (talk) 07:23, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement

The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.

Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:

1. Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
2. Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period

Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.

22:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Perry County, Tennessee

Hi there! I see you've edited pages related to Perry County, Tennessee in the past. I'm in the process of overhauling the page in the hopes of getting it to Good Article status soon. Any feedback or assistance in this endeavor would be greatly appreciated! nf utvol (talk) 01:00, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Recovery of text of a deleted artcle

I was about to create an article on a New Zealand animation studio Mukpuddy Animation however have found that there was a previous article that was deleted in 2014. I would like to see what content that article had before I start drafting a replacement. I would greatly appreciate your assistance in obtaining a copy of the original article.

The studio has been in existence for over 20 years and produces children's programmes for both local (New Zealand) and overseas audiences. There are a number of fairly minor articles about the programmes they produce on Wiki. NealeWellington (talk) 02:55, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your help - looks like I have a bit of work ahead of me so I will start a draft NealeWellington (talk) 08:39, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikitree Edits

I find your wikitree edits to be reasonable. Not a wholesale delete of critical responses. An acceptable middle ground. Deathmolor (talk) 22:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

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• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

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• Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.

Technical news

• Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Misplaced Pages. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

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• Deskana
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Oversight changes

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Guideline and policy news

• Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
• The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.

Miscellaneous

• WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

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• Brianga
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Technical news

• Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)

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• The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

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Technical news

• Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
• Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

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• Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.

Arbitration

• Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
• Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
• The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.

Miscellaneous

• Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).

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• Barkeep49
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• Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Misplaced Pages talk:Administrator elections.
• Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
• An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
• Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).

Miscellaneous

• If you are interested in stopping spammers, please put MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist on your watchlist, and help out when you can.

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Invitation to participate in a research

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The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Misplaced Pages, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this anonymous survey.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
• Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.

Technical news

• Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

• RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
• The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.

Miscellaneous

• An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2024

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• Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
• Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.

Technical news

• Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
• An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

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Copy of deleted article Vaughn J Featherstone

Hi. Could you please provide me a copy of the deleted article Vaughn J Featherstone or Vaughn J. Featherstone? I'd like to see how well sourced it is and whether I might be able to resuscitate it. Thanks mcuh. Davemc0 (talk) 17:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Dave. The only sources cited in the article were an article in Ensign magazine at https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1972/07/bishop-vaughn-j-featherstone?lang=eng and a death notice in the Deseret News (archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20180613155046/https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900018474/elder-vaughn-j-featherstone-dies-at-age-87.html).

I don't see any way that those two sources could be used to craft any article that would meet Misplaced Pages's standards for notability. Unless you have additional sources from non-LDS publishers that establish his importance, it doesn't seem worthwhile to attempt to resuscitate an article about this man. Orlady (talk) 02:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

He was in the presiding bishopric of a fifteen million member church. There are tons of sources about him. It sounds like the article was quite poorly sourced, if it only had two. But notability and sources in WP articles are two completely different things. I would like a copy of the old article to consider. I guess I should ask someone else. Davemc0 (talk) 21:45, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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Worm That Turned

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Oversight changes

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Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

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