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I have no way of verifying the truth of this report. ] ] 19:46, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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:I'm hearing the same. :-( Working on a confirmation. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 20:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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::I've forwarded this to ], not because I want a wider audience but because somebody there will be able to take the appropriate action. I cannot see any reason to believe what I read on the Facebook page is not true. :-( ] ] ] 20:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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== Rest in peace ==


I regret to say that . Rest well, buddy, and my best wishes go out to your family and everyone close to you. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 20:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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:I think maybe we crossed paths a few times, however the loss of a fellow contributor, especially one so young is sad. May you rest in peace. ] (]) 20:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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::::I last saw him at the wikiconference in October, and I'm so sad to hear of this. All the best to his family. ] (]) 21:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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:Always sad news, and very little to be said. Very sorry to hear about this, my condolences to his friends on and off wiki and his family. ] (]) 21:39, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
== RFA successful ==
: No words feel good enough to express my feeling well. I'm heartened that you were able to help three folks live with generous donations and that you continue to help people. You will indeed be missed and it was a pleasure to have met you and work with you. I hope your family and loved ones are well and make it through this undoubtedly difficult time. Much love, ] ] 21:43, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


Incredibly sad news. Condolences to his family and those who knew him. ] (]) 21:47, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Hey, Kevin! I've just closed your RfA as successful, and as such, have granted your account the adminsitrator bit. Congratulations, and welcome to hell. ;) ]&nbsp;]] 20:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
: So sad, my heart aches. RIP, my friend; you are missed beyond words. Condolences to family and friends, on and off wiki. --] (]) 21:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
:Please don't break the wiki... ;) ]&#124;<sup>]</sup> 21:52, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
!Thanks. I'll try to do my best not to blow anything up. And to everyone who voted in support of my nom: thanks also for your confidence in me. Quite a while ago I made an active decision to involve myself in controversial issues on ENWP where I thought that their outcome was important, and for quite some time I had honestly been operating under the assumption that that choice would likely to kill my chances at RfA. I'll do my best to show that said confidence was well-placed (and I promise I have a solid understanding of ] :p) ] (]) 21:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
*Congrats on the new tools! Just noticed that you have an extra permission lying around, though (the ] permission is part of the admin flag—though you can take it off yourself). Good luck! ] (]) 23:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for pointing that out, I'll strip it off myself; I hadn't reviewed my privs yet. I had originally had the flag so that I could do outreach work without hitting the six a day limit. ] (]) 23:21, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
*Congrats! ]] 00:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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*I'm shocked that you haven't yet received your t-shirt. :o Congratulations on your successful request! :) ] 19:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
* Just want to offer my congratulations on your new role! <font color="navy" face="Tahoma">]</font><font color="purple" face="Courier">(])</font> 07:13, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
**Congratulations to both new administrators, Kevin and {{U|Cindamuse}}. I remember meeting both of you in Boston, and I want to thank you both for the excellent work you do to improve the encyclopedia. ] ] 08:38, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
*Late congrats here, glad to see you made it. Let me know if you have any admin questions I can help with. ] (]) 04:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


* Shocking news. My condolences to Kevin's friends and family. ] (]) 21:50, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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*Not the sort of thing I expected to see. I'm sorry about what's happened and I hope your family will be okay. Best wishes. ] 21:53, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Re ], look at the details on ] and/or ] (can't remember now, it was on one of them) for an explanation of the user's hoaxing. ] (]) 23:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
:Rest in peace Kevin. You will be missed greatly. -- ] (]) 22:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
*Hi ] - I actually went ahead and just A7'ed it before digging in to those pages, since it was A7able as well. Having looked at that talk page I see it as a hoax now, and will also go ahead and take a poke at the user who created the articles about that... ] (]) 23:39, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
:* Looks like someone beat me to blocking the creator and put a three day vandalism block on him. I've watchlisted his talk page, let me know if there are any further problems when he returns and if so I'll indef him as a vandalism only account. Best, ] (]) 23:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


*Sorry to see this. I was hoping Kevin could get past his difficulties and move on. ] (]) 22:18, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
==Franek K.==
I have asked two linguist for help. Should be Franeks last reverts not be reverted? (he broke the 3rr on his last edits)--] (]) 01:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
::Or should he self-revert his violation?--] (]) 01:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Ideally he would self-revert his violation (which I have asked him to do.) However, in the broader scale of things, does it really matter if a Misplaced Pages article contains a potentially minor error for a few days? Start discussions on the talk pages of the relevant articles to try to resolve the dispute, or at a broader forum if there's an appropriate one. Given the number of pages that both of you have editwarred over, I would advise strongly against making *any* edit that continues the war before substantial discussion has occurred on a talk page. ] (]) 02:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


* Thanks Kevin for all you have done over the years. Will miss your wise and thoughtful input. ] (] · ] · ]) 23:35, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
::::Could you please warn Franek not to change, edit, or remove my comments on discussion pages. Please see: Thx--] (]) 11:47, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
*Fare thee well--] (]) 23:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


*I wish you peace, Kevin. Sadness for your family. Silence just because... ] ] 00:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::You pasted to discuss the big picture. Pasting images in this discussion is unnecessary and inappropriate, and makes it difficult to discuss. If any such change makes it difficult to discuss, clutters the discussion or spamming, other user have a right to such a change. Your image is not removed from the discussion, your picture exist in discussion as wikilink, problem does not exist. ] (]) 12:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
*Peace--] (]) 00:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

*We all have to go, but you went too soon, mate. Missed. --] <small>]]</small> 00:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

* It happens too soon. I am grateful for every conversation we had. Thanks for your early support of my Misplaced Pages projects. I am sorry for the loss. ]] 00:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Kevin, I want to thank you for handling this with warnings and discussion (at ] and elsewhere). Handling such situation with non-blocks is rare enough that I wanted to express it here. (Perhaps in my ten years I just got used to seeing "blocks solve everything" solution way too much...). Thanks again, --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 13:45, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
*Really sorry to hear. ] (]) 00:50, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
:I figured blocking them both wouldn't be very likely to result in a productive outcome. I'm not too sure that not blocking them will result in a productive outcome either, but I figure it's at least worth a try. Been out of it for most of the day, but going to check up on the situation now. Thanks for the thanks :) ] (]) 23:35, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
*RIP Kevin, Unfortunately we've never edited any articles together however I've seen you around and you'll be missed alot, Thanks for everything you've done, My sincerest condolences to friends & family x –]<sup>]</sup> 01:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

* Aww, damn it. Kevin, you are missed. You did a lot of good here. ] (]) 03:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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What was that, anyway, that you redacted? Was it meant to be pornographic? Thank you. ] (]) 02:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC) * You will be missed, Kevin. My deepest condolences to your loved ones. ] <sup>]</sup> 05:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
* I am heartbroken to hear this news. I've always enjoyed Kevin's insights, and Misplaced Pages will be a little less bright without him. You will be sorely missed, and I hope that wherever you are, you will look down upon us and see pride in the work we hope to continue for you. --] <sup>(])</sup> 06:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that it was meant to be a version of ]... but to be honest after seeing enough to know it was clearly not something that belonged there I just nuked it. Think that was my first time using revdel... glad I didn't break anything. ] (]) 02:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
* Thanks for all your great work over the years. You will be missed. My condolences to your friends and family. '''~'']'']''' <small>] ]</small> 06:33, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
::I had never seen it before, but I thought that it was meant to be pornographic or something. Weird. ] (]) 03:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
* I couldn't believe it initially, I often recall your grants retrospective. ] 06:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

*This is beyond sad. I'm at a loss for words as I type this. Although I didn't personally know you, you seemed like a wonderful person, and our interactions were always great. Thank you for helping to build Misplaced Pages and for staunchly defending it from detrimental edits. Thank you for believing in me as much as I believed in you. ] (]) 07:03, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* Rest in peace, Kevin -- you left us too soon! Thank you for all your hard work on behalf of Misplaced Pages and the Wikimedia movement. Your passion came through very clearly in the few interactions we had. My heartfelt condolences to friends, family and loved ones. ]] 07:04, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

* Rest in peace Kevin. My deepest condolences to your family and loved ones. So early :( ] (])
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* Sorry to hear about Kevin's death. RIP. My heart extends to his family and loved ones. ] (]) 09:39, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* What tragic news. Kevin was my deskmate during his internship at the Wikimedia Foundation, and later interviewed me at length for the Grants retrospective. He was passionate and informed in all he did, and he cared about getting it right, on- and off-wiki. We are the poorer now. ] (]) 09:43, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

* Rest in peace Kevin. My deepest condolences. --] (]) 11:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* In 2014, I ] to you, Kevin. Sad that it's now for you. --] (]) 13:35, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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*Rest in peace Gorman —] »» (]) 14:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* I am deeply saddened by the passing of Kevin. Once we began corresponding over a year ago, he treated me with respect, kindness, tact, sensitivity and with the highest example of good faith. I have found him to be a staunch ally and supporter for building the encyclopedia. I especially enjoy his essays. If any of his family is reading this, please know that I am grieving with you and for you and can't even imagine what you must be going through. If there is any question at all about the amazing contributions that Kevin has made to Misplaced Pages, just know that it will never be the same without him. Kevin, I miss you already! The Very Best of Regards,
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::my real name is Barbara Page and I am from Pittsburgh. I didn't think an anonymous note would do him justice.

* There are far too few who cared so much about this place. A loss for this project and for us all. ] <small>(])</small> 14:34, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* Deeply sorry to hear this. Regrettably, I never worked much with him, but always respected and esteemed him as a Wikipedian. RIP.--] (]) 14:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* Very sad news. Prayers and condolences to his family friends and loved ones. ]! -] (]) 16:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

* Kevin, you were one of the first Wikipedians I was introduced to in depth, and I was so struck by your deep sense of dedication to do good and to do right for Misplaced Pages, for Wikimedia, for systemic bias in free knowledge... Your energy and enthusiasm will be sorely missed. Rest in power. ] (]) 17:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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* It's incredibly sad when someone so young passes away, but at least Kevin will be remembered for his contributions here. Sincerest condolences to his family and friends.- ]] 21:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

* I did not interact with Kevin much, either on- or off-wiki, but there was no missing the way he stood up for principles in discussions of policy. He will be missed. ] (]) 00:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
==Problems with user Sobiepan, again==
* Rest in peace, Kevin. You did a lot of good in this world, and it will be a worse place without you. ] <small>]</small> 03:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
First I, later user JorisvS, later I again, reduced the size of the graphic by Sobiepan. "Editing comments" is one but Sobiepan have no right to destroy the layout of page, too large graphics and separating lines are unacceptable. Size of Sobiepan's graphics have been reduced (graphics are not removed), separating lines can not exist because it is written posts directly to that text. We both (I and JorisvS) thoroughly explained what was going on. Sobiepan can not be subordinate, makes it difficult to discuss. Sobiepan ], mass introduces templates POV to articles Lechitic languages, Slavic languages, West Slavic languages, Silesian language... We with him can not cooperate, his behavior more and more like trolling, making confusion. I can not cope. I want to constructively discuss, Sobiepan just bothers and exacerbate the matter. ] (]) 12:25, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
* Just woke up to this shocking news. Very sorry to hear this. Kevin was far too young to die. My condolences to his friends and family. I have an idea for a possible way to pay tribute if it would be appropriate and not too soon to talk about this (see below). ] (]) 06:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

... and again, again again . ] (]) 12:28, 23 January 2014 (UTC) * Misplaced Pages is now poorer. ] (]) 13:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
* Goodbye. :( ] | (] – ]) 19:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
*I agree with you that inserting graphics like that is inappropriate, and I have removed them and warned Sobie. I'll be around later today to review any other behavioral issues. Best, ] (]) 17:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
* Very sad news indeed, my condolences go to those who worked with him here, and knew him personally. Rest in peace. ]] 13:40, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

* I first met Kevin in spring 2011. I was doing communications for the Wikimedia Foundation’s Public Policy Initiative (the pilot of the program now run by the Wiki Education Foundation, where I now work), and we’d created a tool that showed how many edits and how much content each student had added to Misplaced Pages. One username stood out from a class UC Berkeley, and after looking at this new user’s contribs, I realized he’d started editing far beyond his coursework; Kevin had gotten the Misplaced Pages bug and was busy improving articles on mushrooms (a hobby of his) and reverting vandalism. Kevin’s devotion to Misplaced Pages was apparent, even in the early days of his editing career (I think he never actually finished the article he was supposed to work on for class, he’d gotten so excited about improving other Misplaced Pages articles). Kevin continued on in the education program as a volunteer, and I was pleased to see him become more involved in different aspects of Misplaced Pages. He recruited several classes as the first Wikipedian in Residence at UC Berkeley after he graduated, with his own unique Kevin way of approaching courses: always with an interest to countering systemic bias and always making sure he was doing the right thing ethically for both the student editors and Misplaced Pages. His impact will continue to be felt for years to come within the education program in the United States. Thanks for all your hard work, Kevin. We miss you already. --] (]) 00:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
::Sorry Gorman, but Franks K edits of my comments were provocative. After he already broke the 3RR few days ago, you should warn him, instead of supporting his behavior... --] (]) 14:43, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
* Thanks for all your excellent and well-intentioned contributions. You're missed already. --] (]) <small>Become ]</small> 11:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I have no words, Sobiepan doing wrong but I'm guilty. Three users (I - Franek, JorisvS and Kevin) said you are doing wrong, But you do not want to improve your behavior :( ] (]) 15:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
* RIP. You did not deserve so few years.--<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">]&thinsp;]</span> 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

*Rest in peace, Kevin. You are missed.--] ]/] 20:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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*Wow, very sorry to hear this. One of the "good guys". A name to conjure with. Rest in Peace, Kevin. ] (]) 23:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

*I, too, was enormously shocked to hear about this. I find it deeply saddening that we often fail to fully appreciate someone's value until they are no longer around. Events like these should be a wake-up call—it is long past time to realize the pettiness and complete lack of meaningful consequence to all the ugly controversies and bickering. We must grasp the fact that ''real people'' with lives and feelings are behind those words and signatures. I offer my sincere condolences and well-wishes to Kevin's family, and I commend him for his selfless organ donations to those who were in desperate need of assistance. ] (]) <small>]</small> 23:12, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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* Rest easy, another warm soul gone too soon. I believe we crossed paths a few times, but all the kind words from fellow wikipedians allowed me the pleasure of learning more about you. I appreciate the time you have given to preserve knowledge for countless others, and, with equal importance, the positive impact you clearly left on editors.] (]) 01:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

* I am so shocked to hear of this. He was far too young. My condolences to his family and his friends and his many collaborators in free knowledge and justice. Kevin and I didn't have that many conversations but in every one I heard his deep passion for the work of improving our culture on all levels; he never ceased to be shocked at things that aren't right, and to channel that shock into activism and organizing. I will miss his dedication and I will remember his ideals. ] 16:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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* I worked closely with Kevin when he volunteered in the education program, primarily at Berkeley. Since I was in San Francisco and working at WMF at the time, he used to come by for in-person meetings and lunches. I never could take notes quickly enough to capture his great ideas and enthusiasm for improving students' lives while they improved Misplaced Pages. Kevin also encouraged me to edit as a volunteer, which I continue to do today. He will live on in so many of our memories, but—perhaps most apropos—through Misplaced Pages, which is better because of him. ] (]) 19:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

*Very sad to hear this, my deepest condolences to his loved ones, ] (]) 21:35, 3 August 2016 (UTC)&nbsp;
== Thanks ==
*Kevin, I've always admired your character and dedication. Rest in peace. ]] 15:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

*Very saddened to hear this. Thank you endlessly for all of your contributions to this project. ] (]) 03:39, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for considering my request at ]. Please reconsider , it is semi-protected, but this protection expires after two days. Please make it indefinite too. Thanking you in advance! <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 09:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
* Goodbye, thank you for your work, and bienvenue à dans étoiles. <span style="color:#35b794">]</span><span style="color:#3558b7;"><sup>]</sup>]</span> 03:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
:Sorry about that, I'm tired and just chose the wrong dropdown box. Fixed it for you now. ] (]) 09:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
*Too, too young. Condolences to Kevin's loved ones. Your great passion is what I remember and celebrate. RIP. ] (]) 20:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
::Grateful to you Kevin. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 09:09, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
*Sorry to hear this. Rest in peace, Kevin. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">]]</span> 03:07, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

* Never interacted with you but Rest in Piece and my condolences go to his friends and family. ] ] 17:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
==Franek K. ongoing reverts==
* Always sad, to learn of a fellow Wikipedian's passing. My condolenses to the Gorman family :( ] (]) 14:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

* Whatever our differences, I am saddened by this news. Kevin was a great Wikipedian, I will not forget him. ]<sup>TT</sup>(]) 12:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Franek K. did not self-revert his reverts until today (break of the 3RR rule), morover he reverted now on ] , ,
*Such a loss for the community. ]] 15:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

*Thank you for your generosity of spirit, time, intellect, and vital organs, Kevin. We will miss you. <span style="text-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em #DDDDDD">] ]</span> 18:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Could you please do something?--] (]) 14:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
*RIP, Kevin. ]] 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
:Sobiepan, why are you doing controversial changes with Silesian despite waged discussion? Besides, Florian also reverted your edit in Lechitic languages . Could you finally stop make the controversial edits? ] (]) 15:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::He overlooked the discussion on ], thats why he removed the tag. Stop to manipulate people--] (]) 17:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC) *RIP. ] (]) 22:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
*My condolences to Kevin's family and friends. We were in touch briefly last fall with the aim of meeting up to talk about teaching with Misplaced Pages; even though he said he wasn't sure when his health would stabilize, he was full of ideas for the future. I'm sorry we never managed to get together and that the world has lost such a dynamo.] (]) 18:22, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

*Kevin, you threw your heart and bones at the world, fighting for truth in your work. I don't know anyone else who thought so little of the burdens on themself while they advocated for the rights of others. Thank you for your crazy wild warrior spirit and dedication to human rights. No one will say you didn't give it your all. ]<sup> ]&#124;]</sup> 20:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
:::You doing controversial changes with Silesian despite waged discussion (ignoring the ongoing discussion on Talk:Silesian language, discussion is still in progress) and introduces errors to article (Ref label|Silesian|a to Old Polish?, this ref is about Silesian). I revert your controversies. ] (]) 17:24, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
*Kevin Gorman, gone far too soon. Rest in peace. ] (]) 03:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

::::You are manipulating again. See the old version of ] (17:35, 15 December 2013‎) it was changed by JorisvS ] on 22 January 2014 (shortly after the discussion on ] started). Before that I never edited this article. I have only restored the old version and tagged it as disputed. BTW: There was already an edit war on ] in which you participated in the past , --] (]) 17:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

:::::First, old version of Slavic language (17:35, 15 December 2013‎) and your version are different, eg. ref/tag is incorrect . Second: I knew you'd give some old links from months. This is pathetic, man. In this way behave users in a losing position. I can thoroughly analyze your edits, surely there will be other your edit-wars but I do not want trolling as you and I want to constructively discuss and edit Misplaced Pages, not as you. Sorry, I do not want to go down to such a low level of behavior. You will never improve your behavior. ] (]) 18:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

== Comments relating to unblock requests ==

Hello, Kevin. I've just been looking at ], where there's an unblock request in relation to a block you placed. You have done a much better job of explaining to the editor why you blocked him or her than many admins would. I appreciate the fact that you took some trouble to explain the situation, rather than just throwing a block template containing a one sentence statement of the block reason. I also appreciate your taking the trouble to point to relevant further information for any reviewing admin: far too often, I find myself spending ages searching through editing history, only to eventually find information which I could have found immediately if someone who already knew where it was had just said so. We could do with more admins who take a little trouble over things like that. However, I see that you declined an earlier unblock request. Although you made it clear that you regarded that as a purely procedural decline, you really should not decline any unblock request for a block of your own. There are several reasons for that. For one thing, a reviewing admin should take into account all relevant circumstances, not just what is said in the unblock request. It follows that the reviewing admin may look at the background, and decide that the block was wrong in the first place, irrespective of the merits or lack of merits of the unblock request. None of this is intended to suggest that I think there was anything wrong with the block in this case, and I am 100% sure that any admin would have declined the unblock request, but I am just trying to explain that I think there are good reasons for treating "don't decline unblock requests on your own blocks" as a totally rigid rule, not making exceptions even when you think it's a purely procedural decline. ] (]) 10:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
*Hi ] - thanks for the note, it's not something I'll do again. Slightly awkwardly, I've only had the bit for a week or so and was acting on my interpretation of ] combined with my past experience that type of block request would literally never be accepted. I was actually kind of hoping that in declining the first unblock request, it would encourage Sobiepan to formulate a second unblock request that would be more likely to be successful if warranted. (I declined to block Sobie on an ANEW report a couple days ago and tried to calm down the dispute they were involved in, hoping that that would be sufficient by itself. With the continued editwarring and battleground-y behavior, I decided a slightly more forceful approach might help more.) ] (]) 18:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

== REports multiple abuses on User:BladesMulti ==

] is engaging in extremely biased edit wars.

1. On ], he is unediting references to ] as a historian, and says Cambridge Jouirnal material is "unreliable".
2. On ], he is REMOVING material from the same scholarly source, that goes against his own personal biases.

3. On ], he is refusing to accept testimony from both original work and that of historians like ] and Gilles Veinstein

He must be told, in clear, uncertain terms, that his editing behaviour is completely unacceptable.] (]) 18:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

:Apart from the fact that this user has to do nothing with the page of ] which is being discussed at RSN right now. This user is calling my edits a "vandalism" again, as per seen on ], and removing the reliable references. What should be done? ] (]) 18:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
{{ping|Arildnordby}}: Arild - it is worth being cautious about what you describe as vandalism, as policy defines it quite narrowly (]) and in severe cases labeling something as vandalism when it's just a content dispute can be consider a ]. That said, thank you for bringing this up instead of getting in to an editwar, and thank you for pulling back and self-reverting your last edit at ]. I agree with you that Bladesmulti has been engaging in behavior aptly described as editwarring and will be talking with Blades on their talk page momentarily. ] (]) 20:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

::Please have a look at ] (more specifically ). I've just spotted this user misrepresenting sources and spreading misinformation. He clearly has a problem with Muslims' history in India and fantasy's about "foreign rapists". He deserves to be indefinitely blocked for the bullshit he's claiming sources say (they don't in fact say anything of the sort as to what he's written on Misplaced Pages). We cannot assume good faith with this user Bladesmulti. ] (]) 20:29, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

== Newly discovered false reference on potentially inflammatory topic by BladesMulti ==

I must sadly report to you from ] that ] inserted a FALSE reference to back up his claim that Hindu women committe sati after having been systematically raped by Muslim invaders. See last section on ]. I had not thought BladesMulti was guilty of anything else than dogged refusals to acknowledge other points of views (bad enough), but he has been actively engaged in providing FALSE references for his own views as well.] (]) 20:32, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

::It turns out all three references did not state any such thing as was claimed. I've deleted it. None of them were verifiable except one of the three and even then what was in it was nothing related to the subject of women burning themselves after rape or conquering militaries. Please indefinite block that user please. ] (]) 20:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

== Recent Multiple Blocks ==

Hi Kevin, since you're the admin who blocked the two users in an ] I was watching, I was wondering if you could clarify a couple of things. I'm not trying to second guess your decision, I believe it was broadly fair; I'm just trying to understand a somewhat complex situation.
1) In this situation, BM and Stuff both edit-warred, that's quite clear, ergo they both deserved some kind of sanction/block. But their behaviour was not symmetrically disruptive, so why is the sanction identical?
2) Even if edit warring merited identical blocks, what of BM's other policy violations? Do they become moot points once the user has been blocked? They definitely misrepresented sources, was incredibly obtuse on the TP, reverted RS, etc.

Cheers, ] (]) 22:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:Partly: I'm actually really busy today, and can't fully evaluate all of their alleged misconduct (which is why I invited other admins at ANI to up the block if they felt it necessary.) Partly: generally speaking, I believe in giving people enough ] with which to hang themselves. A well-meaning editor who went too far (and they both went quite a bit overboard) will eat a 36 hour block, which isn't really a big deal - plenty of productive editors, including more than a few admins - have done the same. If BM comes back and continues to violate policies, every block they get will be longer and longer. The same is true of Stuff. Now that I'm actively watching both of them, they're both going to have less room to edit in disruptive ways in the future without pulling long or indefinite blocks. Basically: giving them both short blocks means that if they decide to be productive editors in the future they get to stick around, and if they don't, then they'll end up gone. ] (]) 22:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

::Fair enough. I guess the moral of the story is to drag somebody to ANI instead of fighting it out. Thanks a lot, ] (]) 23:15, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::I'd usually suggest ] to report editwarring in progress, and both actively asking the person to desist and trying to bring outside editors in for additional opinions from places like ] or ]. Oftentimes, having uninvolved editors come in can stop something before it starts. Things at ANI often turn in to unnecessary drama that consumes a ton of time for all involved, so it's usually worth avoiding when possible. ] (]) 23:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
::::I was referring to generic bad behaviour, not just edit-warring, but I will keep that in mind. Again, thanks. ] (]) 23:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::], I misrepresented no sources. Find me one? If the user is uncapable to search the book(I doubt), it doesn't means so. And only 1 source is unavailable to most. Not other 2, that he accused. Or just you believe anything which is said in your favor? Remember, not everything that looks yellow, would be gold.
{{od}}This is not the place for an argument with me. Go look at your talk page. Yes, you did misrepresent sources. ] (]) 16:27, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
*]: it would be a really, really good idea for you to leave the past in the past. If someone has accused you of misrepresenting sources, go to the relevant article talk pages, and make a coherent explanation as to why you think you are representing them correctly. Don't get bogged down worrying about past accusations. If you didn't misrepresent sources, past accusations don't matter. If it turns out you did, and you continue to do so, you '''will''' be indefinitely blocked in the near future. And again, that's a prediction, not a threat. One thing that may help: when you are engaging with other editors on the relevant talk pages, try to literally forget who you are talking to. Reply to what they say without considering who they are. ] (]) 16:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

:::::Also, Kevin, it was impressive of you that you wouldn't get inspired from these complaint. But as you see, right after the block, StuffandTruth had removed/disturbed 3 edits of mine, 2 of them being days and months old. And other being few hours old. In short he was uninvolved in basically these 3 pages of all these times. Is it ]? Since he made no improvement, but only removed the sourced material, that he certainly claimed to be "inserted by banned user". ] (]) 09:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
::::::As a blunt warning ]: be careful. You now have a large number of admins who are more experienced than I watching your behavior, and a lot less latitude to do things that might not get other editors in less trouble. I would advise you to leave the past in the past, and move forward trying to forget the fact that any of the editors involved have annoyed you previously. Any further blocks you receive are likely to be longer regardless of who they are imposed by. I have looked over your contributions and seen that you have improved the encyclopedia in multiple places, so I would prefer that you don't end up outta here, but to ensure that happens, you are likely going to need to edit more calmly than you have in the past. Please take this as a friendly warning and not a threat - I legitimately do not want to see you indef blocked, but instead, want to see you able to help contribute productively. ] (]) 16:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
{{od}}Right now. When you review any of my case, kindly see the both sides(like you know already), now Stuff and truth allege that i ] yet he can't mention when i do that which is inappropriate. But Thanks a lot for the precious advise. ] (]) 16:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
"Forget who you are talking to." Yes, seems solution for everything. ] (]) 16:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

Perhaps it could be moved to be a sub-page of ]? &mdash;] 03:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
:Hi {{ping|Rybec}} - that actually sounds like a pretty good idea, and once I get everything set up, I'll go ahead and do so (although I may keep them in my userspace until I find enough to restore.) These are for potential use in an upcoming Signpost; do any particularly bad examples of Wiki-PR's work come to mind to you? Especially interested in any of the ones that involved vatalyst. Thanks for the suggestion, ] (]) 03:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
::On ], in the section "Sublimeharmony sandbox topics", the table it has 75 examples that were all posted from a single account into a single page. They're linked from the "draft" links. The 22 which mention Vatalyst are listed in . &mdash;] 05:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

:::I do routine searches for things like the pay for play award Network Products Guide and promotional phrases like "industry-leading" for things to chop or AfD, but I've gotten us down to only that mention industry-leading (mostly in press release cites) and with Network Products Guide (both associated with a client of a PR firm I use to work at about 4 years ago, so I just left it alone). This is just how I occupy spare time on commercial breaks while watching TV sort of thing. I won't participate in the Wiki-PR article or hunt-down for obvious reasons (though I saw someone mentioned me on the Wiki-PR Talk page ), however if your investigation helps me find new ways to find articles that need cleanup, I'd be interested in any tips, such as pay for play awards or phrases that are predominantly only used on spammy pages or illegitimate sources not related to them specifically, but rather more broadly.


== I'm sorry ==
:::It's good for someone to maintain an actual record of actual events, even if the media is rather easily influenced by whoever they speak with. Cheers. ] (]) 23:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


that our last conversations were so much unlike our first ones. You and I worked together on a case a long time ago which seemed unwinnable, and we prevailed, for the best of the project. I learned a lot from that, and felt like I knew you a bit. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't--we certainly drifted apart, one way or another, and in one or two fairly crucial cases we did not agree, and I always wished I could have seen eye to eye with you, physically, in the real world, and maybe that would have changed things. You always had a real dedication to this beautiful project of ours, more sincere than many of us, which is probably why you got in real trouble here because you were so dedicated, and sheesh you are too fucking young to be gone. They should take some of us old people, the ones who think they're always right and are sometimes too set in their ways. And who are old and expendable. There's a lot of folks who loved you, Kevin, and I'm , well, I'm sort of out of words. You are one of my oldest friends and colleagues on Misplaced Pages, I mean you were, and it won't be the same without you, tall skinny young person with your funky hairdo. Why do we say the things that matter only when it's too late? sorry yall--NOTSOZCIALNETWORK i know. ] (]) 00:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
== Oakland Police Department draft ==


== Continuing Kevin's work ==
Sorry to bother, but I am going through all the {{tl|draft}}s (migrating them to {{tl|userspace draft}} or {{tl|olddraft}} where possible) and ] come up. It looks like it was . I'm not fussed what you do with it, but it would make me quite happy if it magically disappeared from ] ;-) <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 07:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
*Sorry about that, I'll kill it. I had intended to rewrite the article, but decided not to over safety concerns. Best, ] (]) 07:10, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


After hearing the awful news above, I was re-reading Kevin's user page, and I noticed his words on ]. Would in some way, when the time is right, continuing the work he started there be an appropriate way to pay tribute? There may be other ideas (the Facebook page mentioned donations to the ]), but I am throwing this idea out there. ] (]) 06:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
==Talkback==
*] have begun improving article--] (]) 10:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
{{talkback|User talk:Kevin Gorman/ResortsandLodges.com|Protected edit request on 27 January 2014|ts=14:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)}}
*These are some wonderful ideas. Keep making the world a better place. Rest in peace, Kevin. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:39, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
] (]) 14:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
* Thank you for pointing this out, and for the wonderful idea. I just started ] in tribute. ] (]) 05:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
*Improving ] to GA in tribute to what will be eventually the first good article for a woman philosopher (it needs to be rewritten due to huge sections of unsourced content: draft is ]). <span class="nowrap" style="font-kerning:normal">— ] (])</span> 02:25, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
* Ping me if you end up planning an edit-a-thon for ] <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 01:00, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
=== How about a barnstar? ===
Kevin cared very much about working with, and reaching out to, student editors. It occurs to me that the ] is intended for just that kind of activity, by campus and online ambassadors. I'd like to propose that we rename it the "Kevin Gorman Ambassador Barnstar". Is there support for doing this? --] (]) 20:07, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
:{{ping|Tryptofish}} Seconded. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 20:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
::third--] (]) 21:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Fourthed ? .... Anyway +1 It sounds lovely! –]<sup>]</sup> 21:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
::::This is an excellent idea. Should it be raised somewhere else (e.g. on the talk page of the barnstar or at ]), or should it just be done ]ly after discussion here? Is anyone in contact with his family? ] (]) 10:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::I believe '']ly after discussion here'' is more than enough to just do the barnstar]...IMO--] (]) 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::I already left notes at the talkpage of the barnstar template, and at the talkpage of the WikiProject that deals with barnstars. An editor at the latter had a question, and I directed them to raise the question in the discussion here. I'll also add a note at the Education noticeboard now. I think it would be a good idea to let a few more days pass before making any bold edits. --] (]) 16:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
::::::If there is consensus for this, there will need to be a link to some text explaining the rename and why it was done, so the reasoning is available in the future to those using this award. The closest things I've found to a permanent tribute to deceased Wikipedians (as opposed to user talk page condolence and tribute threads and an entry at ]) is ] and the 2014 ] award (though others may be able to think of other examples). ] (]) 05:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::::I agree. --] (]) 15:42, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


*'''Support''' – But if renaming the existing barnstar, it might be worth considering changing the "ambassador" part as well. Ambassador is a ] in the context of Misplaced Pages, and one that isn't terribly active on enwiki (though there are ] about reviving it). Thus it seems likely that people would assume the barnstar is for (or for use by) ambassadors with that program, and thus wouldn't see much use (and would go unused altogether if that program were to be discontinued). Kevin was an ambassador, but was also involved at the intersection of Misplaced Pages and education in other ways, engaging with faculty, staff, students, Wikipedians, and the public. He also -- and I think this is very important -- came to Misplaced Pages ''through'' the education program (when it was the ]). Perhaps something like "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", or the "Misplaced Pages in Education Gormanstar" or somesuch? <small>FYI I work with the Wiki Education Foundation, but am commenting here solely in a volunteer capacity.</small> — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 23:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
== AfC review of ] ==
::Those are good points. Perhaps a better approach would be to leave the existing barnstar unchanged, and instead create a new one. I would go with the "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", rather than the other name. --] (]) 23:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Tryptofish|The ed17|Ozzie10aaaa|Davey2010}} For the sake of taking the next step, I went ahead and created ] and uploaded a basic barnstar image. The template is basically the Original Barnstar, and the image is that barnstar with an education program logo. See three versions (current), , . I won't be offended if anyone wants to make/use a different image, use a different name, or go a different route altogether -- I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I also added some text to the "header" and "for" fields. — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 14:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
::::] thank you--] (]) 14:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
::::Yes, I think this is the best way to go – thanks! I support the "current" version, aka #1, of the star, and I cannot think of any corrections to the template. --] (]) 17:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
::::Wow it looks perfect!, Thanks {{u|Rhododendrites}} for kindly doing this. –]<sup>]</sup> 18:15, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
*I totally '''support''' this. ]] 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)


*I think that it has become very clear that editors commenting here support going ahead with this barnstar. The required procedure for doing so is to open a discussion at the WikiProject talkpage associated with such awards. I have just done so, at:
The draft has been submitted for review at Articles for creation, but as it is a fully protected page it cannot be reviewed. You need to either remove the protection or the AfC submission. It is currently the oldest unreviewed submission to AfC. BTW I'm quite curious to know why a userspace draft would need to be protected in the first place? ] (]) 18:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
::].
*hi ] - Well, that's awfully awkward. The horribly written page is a piece of work done by ] - I undeleted it and userfied it so that I could use it as an example of Wiki-PR's quality of work, since their execs have recently claimed their main role is just dealing with legally actionable libel. The article I restored had two pending AfC templates in it originally, one at the top of the article, and one nested inside. I nuked the one at the top of the article, but I totally missed the second. I protected it to ensure that it stayed intact as an example of their work and wasn't modified by one of their socks to look better if the piece ended up getting linked somewhere. Since many of their socks are way past autoconfirmed (a year old sock was blocked yesterday,) I went ahead and did full instead of semi. Sorry to you and anyone else I confused. ] (]) 22:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
:*Thanks for fixing it. I'm not so sure we should really be preserving any of Wiki-PR's spams, just my 2c. ] (]) 22:12, 27 January 2014 (UTC) :It is important that editors here, who support the barnstar, '''also comment on your support for it there.''' Thanks. --] (]) 22:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
:::The pages are already noindexed, so google won't pick them up, and at some point today I'll be adding warning banners to all of the pages to ensure that no one mistakenly believes they are articles. We already actually do preserve a lot of Wiki-PR's historical spam - see sublimeharmony's sandbox, where the revision history has copies of many Wiki-PR articles. I think that the value of preserving some of their spam in order to demonstrate to those curious the quality of their work outweighs any negatives. People are unlikely to believe they are real articles (especially once I throw up a red warning banner,) and if Wiki-PR wanted the wikitext back for some reason and didn't have a copy themselves, it's preserved in Sublime's sandbox anyway. ] (]) 22:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


== Doing right because it was right ==
*The Sublimeharmony drafts can be linked to Wiki-PR because of the Scarsdale Media citations. Another that may be connected to Wiki-PR is the prior version of the SouthWest Energy article. One revision says ((quote|1=4/28: add the following information to Southwest Energy's page in a neutral and encylopedic way. Darius will bill for an additional $500 for this update.}} One of the principals of Wiki-PR is named Darius. Others that would be good choices would be the articles about clients named in the press: Priceline, Ehud Rahim, etc. Wiki-PR hired many freelancers, some of whom probably did their own original writing. For example, ] looks like the work of {{u|Floralfs}} who has a distinct writing style and might not even have been a Wiki-PR subcontractor. &mdash;] 02:29, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


I'm nearly speechless having learned of your death today, Kevin. My impression of you through our public interactions here as well as through email showed me you were an honorable man who believed in doing right – in spite of it not always being popular – simply because it was the right thing to do. I will always remember you in the best of terms and those who treated you horribly or didn't step in to defend you (when you were no longer going to be an admin) in the lowest of terms. You deserved much better treatment and respect. To echo the sentiments of others already commenting here, you left us too soon my friend – way too soon. May the road rise to meet you, may the wind always be at your back; may the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields; until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand. Rest in peace and with the angels, Kevin Gorman. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 22:05, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
==Edit warring by Arildnordby==
:Yes, this is very much as I remember Kevin. ] (]) 22:55, 31 July 2016 (UTC)


== Post about Kevin on Feminist Philosophers blog ==
Hey Kevin. I went through the edit ban history/edit warring pages. I found that you were the admin who had blocked Arildnordby, he has made 3 or more reverts in last 24 hours on ] page. See the diffs here:-


We posted something to honor Kevin on the Feminist Philosophers blog . If anyone would like to comment or add or even correct inaccuracies, please do. Also, if you know people who were close to Kevin, maybe they would like to know about the post? ] (]) 01:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks for this, ]. I've shared your post, and started an article on ] to honour Kevin. As I was looking at his list, I realised how few of these academics and thinkers had any substantial information on them (I started with Hide Ishiguro, as the only? person on the list not originally from Europe or North America, but there was almost silence on the internet). It is sadly never surprising to me, but always horrifying. Thank you for the inspiration you gave Kevin, and I'd be delighted if you or some of your students might find time to improve and expand the Avramides article. ] (]) 14:23, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
::I first met Kevin in 2011 at a "Misplaced Pages in Higher Education" conference in Boston. He was then known for his work on mushroom articles. Over the years, I have participated in several edit-a-thons in San Francisco and Berkeley with him. He was committed to Misplaced Pages, free knowledge, gender equality, fairness in biographies of philosophers and positive values. He was open in discussing his health problems but I did not know that they were life threatening. His life was far too short, but a bit of him lives on in the living bodies of the recipients of his transplanted organs. I will donate blood next week in his memory and encourage others to do so as well. He will be missed. ] ] 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


== Kevin's heart still beats ==
Also the user refuses to talk about his changes, as he made 2 of these reverts before typing a one liner on talk page. His edit speaks enough too, that how much unsourced, Fringed, unwanted he has added to the page. Including ](list of non-notable incidents).


From the facebook page:
I don't get why he brought incident to ANI. Instead of solving on talk page. Reply me back. Once you are there. ] (]) 18:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
:I'll be reviewing this in more detail when I get home later this afternoon, but 3rr only applies to more than three reverts, not exactly three. Moreover, those three reverts occurred in more than 24 hours. Taking an initial look at it, Arild's writing appears to both have plenty of sources and not be of unacceptable quality. This looks like a content dispute to me, not editwarring. You also might want to read ].


:'''"Kevin's heart still beats! His heart was successfully transplanted into another person last week, as was his liver and a kidney. Kevin saved three lives last week by sharing his organs. May his heart continue to beat for many years."'''
:I'll be taking some other action tonight on this suite of articles as well. ] (]) 18:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


:Well, Arid probably wants to contribute with a lot better version of Sati. I can withdraw this complaint back at this moment. ] (]) 20:09, 28 January 2014 (UTC) I think a fitting tribute to Kevin would be to register as an organ donor. --] (]) 09:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:Why did someone decide to cut onions near my desk right now? Seriosuly, that is the the best gift one can give, life for others. Already an organ donor myself, and I recommend that if you can, please consider it. ] (]) 16:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


== With a heavy heart... ==
==Problem with user Kwamikagami==
Please see:
*]: , I this one time, and
*]: , I this one time, and
*]: , I this one time, and .
:Why other users (ie. Sobiepan, Kwamikagami) can change articles according to own opinion, even if the topic is controversial? I can not go back it some times because you're scaring me with blockade. This can not be. Kwamikagami introduced POV to article, changing the name of the article on redirect and despite waged discussion, change on . ] (]) 20:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
and . Kwamikagami reverted my bold edit + personal attack. Next . ] (]) 21:40, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
:Hi Franek, I'll be taking a look at this within the next couple hours. ] (]) 23:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
::I have not blocked Kwami, but have warned them, and will be keeping an eye on their behavior in the future. Trust me, you're not the only person who is at risk of getting blocked in this mess if they go way overboard :) Thank you for relatively keeping your calm in recent edits, even when provoked. ] (]) 23:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


One of the last things Kevin said to me in an email exchange, January 6, 2016...''"I think people often underestimate the amount of healing that family members and loved ones of those who undergo serious medical and other crises have to do even when their physical bodies were not the physical bodies directly affected."'' His words spoke volumes to me about his sensitivity toward others. He will be missed. <sup>]]]</sup> 06:33, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Could you at least review the situation so you know what your talking about before handing out warnings? Much of the warning you gave me is just silly. And there can't be secret discretionary sanctions: such things need to be posted on the article so people know about them. — ] (]) 01:12, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
::::I replied to you on your page, but you seem not to have read my entire initial comment. ] (]) 02:17, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! == == Memorial fund ==


My name is Sierra and I was a very close friend of Kevin's who is organizing the memorial. If anyone feels moved to donate to his memorial fund, which will be used to support his memorial and beyond that his preferred charities, you may do so here: https://www.youcaring.com/kevingormanfund. If you would like to attend the event, please see his memorial page https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/ for event details. If you wish to attend virtually, check back regularly because details for webcasting the event are still TBD. Thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small>
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*Thank you... I hoped that resurrecting a few pieces of their past work would help counter some of Wiki-PR's recent public rhetoric. It's worth noting that I didn't pick out the ''worst'' seven pieces I could find, and also only resurrected pieces that could 100% be linked to them. I did offered to French via email that I would be happy to add any pieces of work they had done that were of substantially higher quality than the ones I had already resurrrected; he didn't reply. ] (]) 21:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! == == A barnstar in Kevin's memory ==


The ] is now officially listed at ]. Here is what it looks like:
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* Hi ] - thanks to you for starting to edit Misplaced Pages :) please feel free to stop by my talk page if you have any followup questions about anything or need any help with anything. ] (]) 21:43, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


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== Recent Edits ==


Thanks to {{u|Rhododendrites}}, who designed it. --] (]) 21:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi! You recently helped edit ], an article I wrote, and I would appreciate if you would please consider contributing to the ]. Thank you. --] (]) 21:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


== From Gender Gap-list ==
==Please see==
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*Thanks for the invitation Smallbones, but I'm going to hold off signing for now due to an interesting series of in-progress events. Best, ] (]) 17:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


<blockquote> It breaks my heart that I am not able to post condolences to his talk page. I wanted to say so much about what he did for people behind the scenes, how he kept this forum moderated and open for discussion after arbcom closed down the gender gap project, and how when he talked, the ideas rushed out of him as if he knew how little time he had, and could overcome mortality itself in order to accomplish them, but in the end, there are no words, there are no words. —Neotarf .</blockquote>
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Proxy edit per IAR. ] (]) 19:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Hey, you protected this page as a result of IP disruption after ; one of the IPs went back to the page after the protection ended and continued their previous crusade, and the other notified me of it today. What do you suggest is the best course of action? Thanks, <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 20:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
*I'll reprotect it if they return again, but the edit you reverted was ~10 days old and they haven't come back yet. ] (]) 20:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
**Sounds good. I haven't been watching the page, and the other IP just noticed it, so we'll see if the first IP comes back and does it again. I'll let you know. Thanks, <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 20:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


== Wikiconference edit-a-thon? ==
== ] ==


A few people mentioned continuing Kevin's work on ]. It's too late to submit a session to the upcoming in San Diego, but for those involved/attending, would there be some time to set aside for a short edit-a-thon? Or perhaps it's something to bring up at the Unconference, or something that runs through the weekend? — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 22:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Kevin, I just unblocked KajMetz based on their unblock request. I normally don't unblock without first consulting with the blocking admin, but you said at AN3 that you were off to bed and gave permission to any admin to act as they wished. Hopefully, you had a good rest. Regards.--] (]) 21:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
:FYI looks like this is happening on Saturday. See ]. — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 18:27, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
*No worries, looks good to me; thanks for handling it. Best, ] (]) 21:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


== Updated link, edit request ==
== Objection ==


It's probably unimportant, but the link to <nowiki>] should now show ] instead, or in addition to, the red link. ] (]) 00:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Or any other definition of the idiom I could find on the Web, all suggest taking joy or celebration over the fact of someone's death. You seem to be well educated, probably more than me, but even I can see the faultiness of accusing ] what you accused him. (Eric was making a point, a point to the discussion that he felt was absent and was important to make; his point is best left to him to define -- I won't attempt to paraphrase. His point was conceptual however, and about what is or isn't valid or sensible or fair presumed expectations and responsibilities of Misplaced Pages editors when online at WP. One thing I'm sure, very sure, he did ''not'' do or suggest or emote, was to take any kind or degree of delight, celebration, joy, etc., in the young man's suicide. And to suggest such a thing, to accuse Eric of same, which you did twice , is really a kind of careless maliciousness on your part. You should apologize to him for that accusation -- it wasn't right, and it wasn't fair. I personally forgive you in your rush to keep things ideal for the parents of the young man on Jimbo's Talk, since in your rush you made that oversight. But what an oversight to make. ) ] (]) 09:15, 9 February 2014 (UTC) p.s. If you can find any definition on the web which does ''not'' include celebrating a death, please link it here for my education. Otherwise, I don't think you're so powerful that you can make up your own meanings to language idioms for your own purposes. Words have meanings, even modern idioms.
:{{tpw}}{{ping|Mathglot}} You've looked at the top of Kevin's user talk page, right? -- ] (]) 00:30, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
*Eric transformed a memorial post to a valued member of our community in to a shitfest, and he did so in a forum where the victim's family is likely to read it. When confronted on it, he continued his behavior and started throwing in a borderline hilarious number of comments that would get anyone who isn't Eric blocked under ] at me on his talk page. So no, I'm not apologizing to Eric. His behavior was malicious, had the potential to cause real harm, and would have resulted in almost any other editor than Eric receiving a lengthy, uncontroversial block. ] (]) 16:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
::], Yes. I should have added, that this was addressed to anyone following up redlinks why there was ] to a page moved with no redirect whose links were (almost) all cleaned up, why this page wasn't also fixed. Answer: due to its protection level; but neither does it matter, and they can disregard it. ] (]) 01:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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: David, this editor is deceased. Second, are do you have evidence of copying or is the content merely the same? A lot of pages copy stuff from Misplaced Pages. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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: I looked at the revision history. It’s not a reverse copy. It’s not a copy either. The material is properly cited and constructed from multiple sources. I’m going to close the copyvio investigation in a moment. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
::I just use twinkle, which cannot tell. I would rather post a few inappropriate notices than not notify someone who needs to be noticed. But one of the reasons a post here might not be entirely inappropriate is that it allows the many people who still l watchlist the page in his memory to correct errors., like my error here''']''' (]) 19:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Thank you. You make several good points. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


== You made me regret supporting you == == Thank you ==


I don't think we've ever interacted before, but I want to say thanks for your contributions and my deepest condolences and sympathies go out to your friends and family. Rest in Peace. ] (] – ]) 08:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
When I your RfA last month, I didn't think you would be coming on board to threaten one of our best content contributors with a ban for some meaningless and twee nonsense at our co-founder's talk page. More fool him for getting into that debate, and more fool you for behaving like that. You didn't say at your RfA you were going to do stuff like that; I suggest a period of reflection ensue. We do not always need to wave a big stick. There are better ways of doing business than that. That was not a BLP violation. --] (]) 19:41, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
:] - there's a pretty significant difference from banning someone from '''a specific thread''' and banning someone. Malleus's ability to comment on one particular thread on Jimmy's talk page has absolutely no effect on his ability to create content. His comments on that thread were clearly covered by ]/], and had the potential to cause harm to numerous living people. Anyone but Malleus would have simply backed off when requested; he required a bigger stick. If you look at how I've handled every content dispute, blp violation, edit war, etc that I've so far handled, you would note that I have generally been ''far'' less aggressive in terms of handing out blocks/other actions than the vast majority of our admins are. You're free to feel disappointed in me, but as long as I am able to take small actions to make Misplaced Pages a safer space than it currently is, I'm going to do so. That thread started off as a memorial to a valued contributor who has passed away and once Eric popped in turned in to a mess that was offensive to his friends, and would be quite offensive to his family if they happened to stumble across it. Do you value his ability to comment on a single thread on Jimmy's talk more than you value the emotions of a dead editor's friends and family? ] (]) 19:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Seems to be something that others here should be aware of

https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/

I have no way of verifying the truth of this report. Eric Corbett 19:46, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm hearing the same. :-( Working on a confirmation. Ed  20:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
I've forwarded this to WP:AN, not because I want a wider audience but because somebody there will be able to take the appropriate action. I cannot see any reason to believe what I read on the Facebook page is not true. :-( Ritchie333 20:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Nothing on Google I can see, beyond the Facebook that Eric linked.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Rest in peace

I regret to say that it's true. Rest well, buddy, and my best wishes go out to your family and everyone close to you. Ed  20:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

I think maybe we crossed paths a few times, however the loss of a fellow contributor, especially one so young is sad. May you rest in peace. RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
You are missed. Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
I am heartsick to learn of this. My deepest sympathies to Kevin's family and loved ones. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
I last saw him at the wikiconference in October, and I'm so sad to hear of this. All the best to his family. WWB (talk) 21:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for all of the work you performed here at WikiP. My condolences to friends and family. MarnetteD|Talk 21:33, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
My sincerest condolences to his family. Never got to work with him, though I did respect him as an Admin and editor. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Always sad news, and very little to be said. Very sorry to hear about this, my condolences to his friends on and off wiki and his family. Keegan (talk) 21:39, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
No words feel good enough to express my feeling well. I'm heartened that you were able to help three folks live with generous donations and that you continue to help people. You will indeed be missed and it was a pleasure to have met you and work with you. I hope your family and loved ones are well and make it through this undoubtedly difficult time. Much love, EvergreenFir (talk) 21:43, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Incredibly sad news. Condolences to his family and those who knew him. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:47, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

So sad, my heart aches. RIP, my friend; you are missed beyond words. Condolences to family and friends, on and off wiki. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Rest in peace Kevin. You will be missed greatly. -- KTC (talk) 22:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
missed
... and A Requiem in Our Time --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Rest in peace Gorman —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 14:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I am deeply saddened by the passing of Kevin. Once we began corresponding over a year ago, he treated me with respect, kindness, tact, sensitivity and with the highest example of good faith. I have found him to be a staunch ally and supporter for building the encyclopedia. I especially enjoy his essays. If any of his family is reading this, please know that I am grieving with you and for you and can't even imagine what you must be going through. If there is any question at all about the amazing contributions that Kevin has made to Misplaced Pages, just know that it will never be the same without him. Kevin, I miss you already! The Very Best of Regards,
  Bfpage |leave a message  14:31, 30 July 2016 (UTC),
my real name is Barbara Page and I am from Pittsburgh. I didn't think an anonymous note would do him justice.
  • There are far too few who cared so much about this place. A loss for this project and for us all. Gamaliel (talk) 14:34, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • R.I.P. Stan 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:36, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Deeply sorry to hear this. Regrettably, I never worked much with him, but always respected and esteemed him as a Wikipedian. RIP.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Very sorry to see this. --Rschen7754 16:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Very sad news. Prayers and condolences to his family friends and loved ones. Memory eternal! -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Kevin, you were one of the first Wikipedians I was introduced to in depth, and I was so struck by your deep sense of dedication to do good and to do right for Misplaced Pages, for Wikimedia, for systemic bias in free knowledge... Your energy and enthusiasm will be sorely missed. Rest in power. Anasuyas (talk) 17:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • It's incredibly sad when someone so young passes away, but at least Kevin will be remembered for his contributions here. Sincerest condolences to his family and friends.- MrX 21:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I did not interact with Kevin much, either on- or off-wiki, but there was no missing the way he stood up for principles in discussions of policy. He will be missed. Daniel Case (talk) 00:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Rest in peace, Kevin. You did a lot of good in this world, and it will be a worse place without you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Just woke up to this shocking news. Very sorry to hear this. Kevin was far too young to die. My condolences to his friends and family. I have an idea for a possible way to pay tribute if it would be appropriate and not too soon to talk about this (see below). Carcharoth (talk) 06:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Misplaced Pages is now poorer. Collect (talk) 13:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Goodbye. :( II | (t – c) 19:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Very sad news indeed, my condolences go to those who worked with him here, and knew him personally. Rest in peace. Zero 13:40, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I first met Kevin in spring 2011. I was doing communications for the Wikimedia Foundation’s Public Policy Initiative (the pilot of the program now run by the Wiki Education Foundation, where I now work), and we’d created a tool that showed how many edits and how much content each student had added to Misplaced Pages. One username stood out from a class UC Berkeley, and after looking at this new user’s contribs, I realized he’d started editing far beyond his coursework; Kevin had gotten the Misplaced Pages bug and was busy improving articles on mushrooms (a hobby of his) and reverting vandalism. Kevin’s devotion to Misplaced Pages was apparent, even in the early days of his editing career (I think he never actually finished the article he was supposed to work on for class, he’d gotten so excited about improving other Misplaced Pages articles). Kevin continued on in the education program as a volunteer, and I was pleased to see him become more involved in different aspects of Misplaced Pages. He recruited several classes as the first Wikipedian in Residence at UC Berkeley after he graduated, with his own unique Kevin way of approaching courses: always with an interest to countering systemic bias and always making sure he was doing the right thing ethically for both the student editors and Misplaced Pages. His impact will continue to be felt for years to come within the education program in the United States. Thanks for all your hard work, Kevin. We miss you already. --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all your excellent and well-intentioned contributions. You're missed already. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • RIP. You did not deserve so few years.--Begoon  13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Rest in peace, Kevin. You are missed.--Cúchullain /c 20:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Wow, very sorry to hear this. One of the "good guys". A name to conjure with. Rest in Peace, Kevin. Softlavender (talk) 23:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I, too, was enormously shocked to hear about this. I find it deeply saddening that we often fail to fully appreciate someone's value until they are no longer around. Events like these should be a wake-up call—it is long past time to realize the pettiness and complete lack of meaningful consequence to all the ugly controversies and bickering. We must grasp the fact that real people with lives and feelings are behind those words and signatures. I offer my sincere condolences and well-wishes to Kevin's family, and I commend him for his selfless organ donations to those who were in desperate need of assistance. Biblio (talk) WikiProject Reforming Misplaced Pages. 23:12, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Rest easy, another warm soul gone too soon. I believe we crossed paths a few times, but all the kind words from fellow wikipedians allowed me the pleasure of learning more about you. I appreciate the time you have given to preserve knowledge for countless others, and, with equal importance, the positive impact you clearly left on editors.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I am so shocked to hear of this. He was far too young. My condolences to his family and his friends and his many collaborators in free knowledge and justice. Kevin and I didn't have that many conversations but in every one I heard his deep passion for the work of improving our culture on all levels; he never ceased to be shocked at things that aren't right, and to channel that shock into activism and organizing. I will miss his dedication and I will remember his ideals. Sumana Harihareswara 16:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I worked closely with Kevin when he volunteered in the education program, primarily at Berkeley. Since I was in San Francisco and working at WMF at the time, he used to come by for in-person meetings and lunches. I never could take notes quickly enough to capture his great ideas and enthusiasm for improving students' lives while they improved Misplaced Pages. Kevin also encouraged me to edit as a volunteer, which I continue to do today. He will live on in so many of our memories, but—perhaps most apropos—through Misplaced Pages, which is better because of him. Jami (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Very sad to hear this, my deepest condolences to his loved ones, Huldra (talk) 21:35, 3 August 2016 (UTC) 
  • Kevin, I've always admired your character and dedication. Rest in peace. Airplaneman ✈ 15:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Very saddened to hear this. Thank you endlessly for all of your contributions to this project. Mz7 (talk) 03:39, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Goodbye, thank you for your work, and bienvenue à dans étoiles. Dschslavaparlez moi 03:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Too, too young. Condolences to Kevin's loved ones. Your great passion is what I remember and celebrate. RIP. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Sorry to hear this. Rest in peace, Kevin. --Pine 03:07, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Never interacted with you but Rest in Piece and my condolences go to his friends and family. MWright96 (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Always sad, to learn of a fellow Wikipedian's passing. My condolenses to the Gorman family :( GoodDay (talk) 14:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Whatever our differences, I am saddened by this news. Kevin was a great Wikipedian, I will not forget him. Worm(talk) 12:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Such a loss for the community. Mkdw 15:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your generosity of spirit, time, intellect, and vital organs, Kevin. We will miss you. The Interior (Talk) 18:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
  • RIP, Kevin. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
  • RIP. Ethanlu121 (talk) 22:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
  • My condolences to Kevin's family and friends. We were in touch briefly last fall with the aim of meeting up to talk about teaching with Misplaced Pages; even though he said he wasn't sure when his health would stabilize, he was full of ideas for the future. I'm sorry we never managed to get together and that the world has lost such a dynamo.Alafarge (talk) 18:22, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Kevin, you threw your heart and bones at the world, fighting for truth in your work. I don't know anyone else who thought so little of the burdens on themself while they advocated for the rights of others. Thank you for your crazy wild warrior spirit and dedication to human rights. No one will say you didn't give it your all. Ocaasi 20:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Kevin Gorman, gone far too soon. Rest in peace. MB298 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry

that our last conversations were so much unlike our first ones. You and I worked together on a case a long time ago which seemed unwinnable, and we prevailed, for the best of the project. I learned a lot from that, and felt like I knew you a bit. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't--we certainly drifted apart, one way or another, and in one or two fairly crucial cases we did not agree, and I always wished I could have seen eye to eye with you, physically, in the real world, and maybe that would have changed things. You always had a real dedication to this beautiful project of ours, more sincere than many of us, which is probably why you got in real trouble here because you were so dedicated, and sheesh you are too fucking young to be gone. They should take some of us old people, the ones who think they're always right and are sometimes too set in their ways. And who are old and expendable. There's a lot of folks who loved you, Kevin, and I'm , well, I'm sort of out of words. You are one of my oldest friends and colleagues on Misplaced Pages, I mean you were, and it won't be the same without you, tall skinny young person with your funky hairdo. Why do we say the things that matter only when it's too late? sorry yall--NOTSOZCIALNETWORK i know. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Continuing Kevin's work

After hearing the awful news above, I was re-reading Kevin's user page, and I noticed his words on missing women philosopher articles. Would in some way, when the time is right, continuing the work he started there be an appropriate way to pay tribute? There may be other ideas (the Facebook page mentioned donations to the National Organization for Rare Disorders), but I am throwing this idea out there. Carcharoth (talk) 06:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

How about a barnstar?

Kevin cared very much about working with, and reaching out to, student editors. It occurs to me that the Misplaced Pages Ambassador Barnstar is intended for just that kind of activity, by campus and online ambassadors. I'd like to propose that we rename it the "Kevin Gorman Ambassador Barnstar". Is there support for doing this? --Tryptofish (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

@Tryptofish: Seconded. Ed  20:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
third--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Fourthed ? .... Anyway +1 It sounds lovely! –Davey2010 21:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
This is an excellent idea. Should it be raised somewhere else (e.g. on the talk page of the barnstar or at Misplaced Pages talk:Education program), or should it just be done WP:BOLDly after discussion here? Is anyone in contact with his family? Carcharoth (talk) 10:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
I believe WP:BOLDly after discussion here is more than enough to just do the barnstarMisplaced Pages:Barnstars...IMO--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
I already left notes at the talkpage of the barnstar template, and at the talkpage of the WikiProject that deals with barnstars. An editor at the latter had a question, and I directed them to raise the question in the discussion here. I'll also add a note at the Education noticeboard now. I think it would be a good idea to let a few more days pass before making any bold edits. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
If there is consensus for this, there will need to be a link to some text explaining the rename and why it was done, so the reasoning is available in the future to those using this award. The closest things I've found to a permanent tribute to deceased Wikipedians (as opposed to user talk page condolence and tribute threads and an entry at Misplaced Pages:Deceased Wikipedians) is Misplaced Pages:Wadewitz Tribute Edit-a-thons and the 2014 Wikipedian of the Year award (though others may be able to think of other examples). Carcharoth (talk) 05:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree. --Tryptofish (talk) 15:42, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support – But if renaming the existing barnstar, it might be worth considering changing the "ambassador" part as well. Ambassador is a specific user role/program in the context of Misplaced Pages, and one that isn't terribly active on enwiki (though there are ongoing discussions about reviving it). Thus it seems likely that people would assume the barnstar is for (or for use by) ambassadors with that program, and thus wouldn't see much use (and would go unused altogether if that program were to be discontinued). Kevin was an ambassador, but was also involved at the intersection of Misplaced Pages and education in other ways, engaging with faculty, staff, students, Wikipedians, and the public. He also -- and I think this is very important -- came to Misplaced Pages through the education program (when it was the Public Policy Initiative). Perhaps something like "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", or the "Misplaced Pages in Education Gormanstar" or somesuch? FYI I work with the Wiki Education Foundation, but am commenting here solely in a volunteer capacity. — Rhododendrites \\ 23:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Those are good points. Perhaps a better approach would be to leave the existing barnstar unchanged, and instead create a new one. I would go with the "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", rather than the other name. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
@Tryptofish, The ed17, Ozzie10aaaa, and Davey2010: For the sake of taking the next step, I went ahead and created Template:Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar and uploaded a basic barnstar image. The template is basically the Original Barnstar, and the image is that barnstar with an education program logo. See three versions 1 (current), 2, 3. I won't be offended if anyone wants to make/use a different image, use a different name, or go a different route altogether -- I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I also added some text to the "header" and "for" fields. — Rhododendrites \\ 14:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Template:Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I think this is the best way to go – thanks! I support the "current" version, aka #1, of the star, and I cannot think of any corrections to the template. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Wow it looks perfect!, Thanks Rhododendrites for kindly doing this. –Davey2010 18:15, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I think that it has become very clear that editors commenting here support going ahead with this barnstar. The required procedure for doing so is to open a discussion at the WikiProject talkpage associated with such awards. I have just done so, at:
Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Misplaced Pages Awards#Proposal for a new Barnstar.
It is important that editors here, who support the barnstar, also comment on your support for it there. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Doing right because it was right

I'm nearly speechless having learned of your death today, Kevin. My impression of you through our public interactions here as well as through email showed me you were an honorable man who believed in doing right – in spite of it not always being popular – simply because it was the right thing to do. I will always remember you in the best of terms and those who treated you horribly or didn't step in to defend you (when you were no longer going to be an admin) in the lowest of terms. You deserved much better treatment and respect. To echo the sentiments of others already commenting here, you left us too soon my friend – way too soon. May the road rise to meet you, may the wind always be at your back; may the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields; until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand. Rest in peace and with the angels, Kevin Gorman. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 22:05, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, this is very much as I remember Kevin. Mathsci (talk) 22:55, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Post about Kevin on Feminist Philosophers blog

We posted something to honor Kevin on the Feminist Philosophers blog here. If anyone would like to comment or add or even correct inaccuracies, please do. Also, if you know people who were close to Kevin, maybe they would like to know about the post? Madva (talk) 01:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for this, Madva. I've shared your post, and started an article on Anita Avramides to honour Kevin. As I was looking at his list, I realised how few of these academics and thinkers had any substantial information on them (I started with Hide Ishiguro, as the only? person on the list not originally from Europe or North America, but there was almost silence on the internet). It is sadly never surprising to me, but always horrifying. Thank you for the inspiration you gave Kevin, and I'd be delighted if you or some of your students might find time to improve and expand the Avramides article. Anasuyas (talk) 14:23, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
I first met Kevin in 2011 at a "Misplaced Pages in Higher Education" conference in Boston. He was then known for his work on mushroom articles. Over the years, I have participated in several edit-a-thons in San Francisco and Berkeley with him. He was committed to Misplaced Pages, free knowledge, gender equality, fairness in biographies of philosophers and positive values. He was open in discussing his health problems but I did not know that they were life threatening. His life was far too short, but a bit of him lives on in the living bodies of the recipients of his transplanted organs. I will donate blood next week in his memory and encourage others to do so as well. He will be missed. Cullen Let's discuss it 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Kevin's heart still beats

From the facebook page:

"Kevin's heart still beats! His heart was successfully transplanted into another person last week, as was his liver and a kidney. Kevin saved three lives last week by sharing his organs. May his heart continue to beat for many years."

I think a fitting tribute to Kevin would be to register as an organ donor. --Guy Macon (talk) 09:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Why did someone decide to cut onions near my desk right now? Seriosuly, that is the the best gift one can give, life for others. Already an organ donor myself, and I recommend that if you can, please consider it. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

With a heavy heart...

One of the last things Kevin said to me in an email exchange, January 6, 2016..."I think people often underestimate the amount of healing that family members and loved ones of those who undergo serious medical and other crises have to do even when their physical bodies were not the physical bodies directly affected." His words spoke volumes to me about his sensitivity toward others. He will be missed. 06:33, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Memorial fund

My name is Sierra and I was a very close friend of Kevin's who is organizing the memorial. If anyone feels moved to donate to his memorial fund, which will be used to support his memorial and beyond that his preferred charities, you may do so here: https://www.youcaring.com/kevingormanfund. If you would like to attend the event, please see his memorial page https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/ for event details. If you wish to attend virtually, check back regularly because details for webcasting the event are still TBD. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.194.86 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar in Kevin's memory

The Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar is now officially listed at Misplaced Pages:Barnstars. Here is what it looks like:

Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar
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Thanks to Rhododendrites, who designed it. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

From Gender Gap-list

It breaks my heart that I am not able to post condolences to his talk page. I wanted to say so much about what he did for people behind the scenes, how he kept this forum moderated and open for discussion after arbcom closed down the gender gap project, and how when he talked, the ideas rushed out of him as if he knew how little time he had, and could overcome mortality itself in order to accomplish them, but in the end, there are no words, there are no words. —Neotarf July 30, 2016.

Proxy edit per IAR. Carrite (talk) 19:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikiconference edit-a-thon?

A few people mentioned continuing Kevin's work on women philosophers. It's too late to submit a session to the upcoming Wikiconference in San Diego, but for those involved/attending, would there be some time to set aside for a short edit-a-thon? Or perhaps it's something to bring up at the Unconference, or something that runs through the weekend? — Rhododendrites \\ 22:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

FYI looks like this is happening on Saturday. See Misplaced Pages:Meetup/San Diego/WCNA2016/Kevin Gorman Memorial. — Rhododendrites \\ 18:27, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Updated link, edit request

It's probably unimportant, but the link to ] should now show California Assembly Bill 1535 (2014) instead, or in addition to, the red link. Mathglot (talk) 00:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)@Mathglot: You've looked at the top of Kevin's user talk page, right? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:30, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Marchjuly, Yes. I should have added, that this was addressed to anyone following up redlinks why there was one inlink remaining to a page moved with no redirect whose links were (almost) all cleaned up, why this page wasn't also fixed. Answer: due to its protection level; but neither does it matter, and they can disregard it. Mathglot (talk) 01:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Amy Allen (philosopher)

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David, this editor is deceased. Second, are do you have evidence of copying or is the content merely the same? A lot of pages copy stuff from Misplaced Pages. Jehochman 12:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I looked at the revision history. It’s not a reverse copy. It’s not a copy either. The material is properly cited and constructed from multiple sources. I’m going to close the copyvio investigation in a moment. Jehochman 12:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I just use twinkle, which cannot tell. I would rather post a few inappropriate notices than not notify someone who needs to be noticed. But one of the reasons a post here might not be entirely inappropriate is that it allows the many people who still l watchlist the page in his memory to correct errors., like my error here DGG ( talk ) 19:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. You make several good points. Jehochman 15:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

I don't think we've ever interacted before, but I want to say thanks for your contributions and my deepest condolences and sympathies go out to your friends and family. Rest in Peace. Lord Sjones23 (talk – contributions) 08:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

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