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Actually, a small minority of Filipinos are of Spanish or part Spanish descent, and would probably identify as "Hispanic". Interestingly, not all Spanish descended people would identify as such, especially the Basque Nationalists. |
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== Are Dutch and Belgians "Hispanic"? == |
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Saying that people from Spain are not hispanics is a non-sence. "Hispanic" is a word that means "coming or related to Spain and spanish culture". every language use that word that way. ex; in french "les cultures hispaniques" means "the Spanish or Spanish related cultures.", not related to Mexican or Guatemaltec cultures which are mostly native indians !! |
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Because they belonged to the Spanish Empire about the same time most Spanish American colonies did, and following Anglo's logic, they should be called Hispanics as well. |
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--] (]) 19:34, 24 October 2018 (UTC) |
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It would be like excuding english people of "anglo-saxon" culture and considering Jamaican or australian aborigen culture as the anglosaxon culture!! |
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:Please provide a reliable source that they are considered hispanic. ] 20:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:: The poster was arguing from logical consistency, not from a source. ] (]) 20:13, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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It is the same for "latin" or "latino", these words mean "related and descent to roman culture", not "from south and central america" |
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Of course central and south america are included in "latin" group because they have a spanish, portuguese and french herency; but they don't represent all latins or latinos by themselves !!!!!!... |
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== Brazilians == |
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American people usually forget that the "original" latins or latinos are Italians, Frenchs, Spanishs, Portugueses, Catalans, Romanians, and some Belgians and swiss people... |
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"Brazilians may identify as Latin-Americans, but refute being considered Latinos or Hispanics" - What is the basis for this claim (It's contrary to what one Brazilian-Jew says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm521AmMLX8 ca. 53.:30.) ] (]) 20:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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It has nothing to see with a race or any "physical" description of people |
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== Proposal: deletion of the entire "Spanish-speaking countries and regions section" == |
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A list of this is already on the ] article. Notably, I am also questioning the relevance of the ethnic/racial demographics included in the section. Some parts like the whole FS of Micronesia stuff is even less relevant and belongs in an article covering the influence of the Spanish Empire or whatever. As a reminder, the article is supposed to address "people, cultures, or countries" dealt with by the term "Hispanic". |
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Being that this talk page is obviously not very active, I'll wait a while if anyone wants to give any input. If no one objects or no one bothers to respond, I'll do the big chop. ] (]) 09:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC) |
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I live in a neighborhood that was once all upper middle-class whites, but now it's predominantly working-class Hispanic. As a long-time resident of my city, I'm seeing the neighborhood detioriating quickly. It's scary. |
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:'''Update:''' I'm going to do it now. ] (]) 22:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Inclusion of ethnic designation in lead == |
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It seems to me that better terms for minority status would be Mezo-American and South American not Hispanic or Latino. I agree with the article about Spanish people being classified as European Americans (or Europeans) not as a protected underclass. How is a Spanish person any more deserving of protection than say an Itallian or Swede? |
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@] You and I have a dispute over an edit I made to the article: |
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== spanish protection == |
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''In some contexts, ], "Hispanic" is used as an ] or ] term.'' |
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I'm half Spanish and live in texas. My last name is Fernandez. I have green eyes. My skin is probably lighter than 90 percent of most white peoples'. I'm listed as white on all govt. documents. I'm all for trying to tech people the difference between Spanish and South American. Pop culture defines latino as dark skinned, but that's not because of the spanish part, its the native american part, of which i have little or no common ancestry. However, I still think that Spanish people should be given special consideration when it comes to minority protection. Why? Because I have suffered, first hand, the effects of racism agaist "hispanics". Because my last name is Fernandez, people always assume I'm mexican. Living in texas, that might be a natural assumption. But this has hurt me several times. My father owns a small business, and on more than one occasion, stupid, ignorant rednecks have actually turned down business deals with him because they dont wanna do business with "a mezzican". This racism is bad enough, but it's also missplaced! My dad is as white as any of them and speaks perfect english (probably better than those rednecks). Even though my family never had to overcome financial barriers, we have had to overcome social barriers. If we are going to solve anything though, it won't be with affirmitive action or such similar programs. It will take proper education for the youth for the future generations to truly understand race and racism. |
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In order to avoid an edit war, I am going by what the community recommends and bringing the dispute to the talk page, so we can settle this reasonably. ] (]) 03:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Parallel designations == |
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Don't stay in that country, if people is so ignorant. Come back to Europe. Spain is the better place to live in Europe (maybe in the world), and, in contrary with the US opinion it is a rich, modern, wersterner and "white" country. It is a latin country because you have roman/mediteranean cultural like the Italian, French and Portugueses, not because we come from Mexicans ! In spanish "latin" is "latino", (latino doesn't mean latino america!) hehehe... and an hispanic country because hispanic relates from spain. |
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Hello, |
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== Disambiguation in census data == |
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to use the word precedence case basic to the United States I would like to know: which words corresponding to Hispanic do exist? ] (]) 22:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC) |
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This page is easily the most linked-to disambiguation page in the whole wikipedia, and the reason is that there are a large number of articles on places in the ] that include information from the ] that ''all'' refer to the number of 'Hispanic' inhabitants. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Hispanic for many, many examples. |
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Would it be possible to: |
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* add a new topic for, well, whatever is the proper term for an Hispanic person living in the ], |
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* refer to this in the disambiguation page; and |
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* get a bot to replace all links from census data to ''Hispanic'' to the new page? |
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] 07:57, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC) |
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That would be ]. We should stick to US Census terms, meaning we use <nowiki>].</nowiki> --]] 08:19, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC) |
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:looks good ] 09:01, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC) |
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:An automatic bot would be easy to write since the census data is always essentially in the same format. You know, "''... of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race''". No need to manually accept every modification -- the possibility of errors is slim. ] 01:07, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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Actually, most Americans are just a bunch of racists and ignorant monkeys (just take a look at their 'democratic' political system, it is so funny to see those meetings of politicians screaming as those idiots wave their American flaggies). Of course, I am aware that there are some American people that have some brain, especially in NYC, but I just wanted to criticize their society as a whole. |
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It's impossible to make them understand something not related to their so-called 'pop culture', that is: burgers, baseball and TV. Just leave that country and come back to Spain. |
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Because they belonged to the Spanish Empire about the same time most Spanish American colonies did, and following Anglo's logic, they should be called Hispanics as well.
In order to avoid an edit war, I am going by what the community recommends and bringing the dispute to the talk page, so we can settle this reasonably. Evaporation123 (talk) 03:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
to use the word precedence case basic to the United States I would like to know: which words corresponding to Hispanic do exist? Sarcelles (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)