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== Software by the Debian project ==

Being a Linux distribution Debian consists almost entirely of free and open-source software written by 3rd parties. But some software is being developed by Debian, e.g. ], the ], ], and maybe some other stuff. Not sure whether this Debian-own software should get an own section. <span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black">]</span><sup>]</sup> 18:41, 29 August 2016

== No longer free software/open source? ==

It includes non-free firmware in the installer. Is this already mentioned? ] (]) 12:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

:I do not know if these links

https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html


https://web.archive.org/web/20231102171742/https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
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https://web.archive.org/web/20231102171923/https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2022/10/msg00001.html
== Feature list ==


are already mentioned in the article or now, but some information may also need to be changed to reflect the changes in the policy of Debian.
What about adding a feature list of the advantages of Debian over others?
For example preseeded installations.


I hope I'm using the talk page correctly.
== References ==


I do not yet know where I should place this information about the policy change in Debian.
{{reflist}}


Other users may know where the best place in this article is to place the references.
== Steam ==


I think near the top changing
It seems to me that the availability of Steam for Linux has gotten a lot of attention in the trade press, with some commentators saying it could be a game changer. I think it is notable enough for a mention.--] (]) 23:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


"Since its founding,"
: Sorry, but isn't that better suitable for the ] and maybe ] articles? -- ] (]) 01:51, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


to
:: Steam OS beta is now available and Debian Wheezy (stable) based. See following blog post why this is more relevant than ever for Debian: http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2013/12/14-SteamOS/ There is no doubt that SteamOS should be covered on the Debian article :) ] 17:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


"Since its founding till 2022,"
::: Got it! You're right, that totally deserves to be mentioned in this article. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 17:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


And putting the links in a "ref" may be a way to show the change.
== Timetable ==


Though there may be a better way to link to the change.
Hi,
I think timetable should be updated (include 6.0.8 release - http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20131020), but I can't do this. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


] (]) 21:19, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
== First Image ==
: I'm sorry but that's not a ]. Debian an install image with proprietary firmware long before 2022, and the FSF's disavowal of Debian long before that date. "Since its founding" may not be accurate, but "until 2022" is definitely incorrect. ] (]) 11:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
::I've updated it to a better synthesis that talks about how Debian generally follows FOSS principles but includes some proprietary software. ] (]) 03:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


== Debian latest software version ==
Is it really necessary, to repeat it three times?
"only the '''first''' optical iso image of any of its downloadable sets is sufficient. Debian requires the '''first''' installable image, but uses online repositories for additional software. Debian's basic installation requires only the '''first''' CD or DVD of its release in order to have a working desktop ex" ] (]) 07:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


Latest version as of 2/13/2024 is 12.5 (not 12.4) ] (]) 03:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
== Debian private practices and Debian Women activities ==


== Debian Logo ==
The undoing from 80.100.245.50 claims vandalism. As I understand, the content does meet Misplaced Pages requirements (neutral point of view, verifiability, etc). Most references are already in Debian, from many different contributors. The bug reports cited are archived, hosted in Debian and have been subject to Debian review. All references are appropriate for an article about Debian.


The article claims that the "genie bottle" was originally part of the logo and fell out of use. That seems to me to be either misleading or simply incorrect. When the logo was originally designed, there were two versions, one for public use and one for official use. The public use one was the one with the bottle, and the official one was the swirl only. Shortly after that logo design won the competition, it was decided to swap the meaning of both logos (one of the reasons being that is was weird that the official only use logo was a subset of the public one).
I would like whoever makes the undoing to challenge the material or to prove that what was written is wrong. In the meantime, I will restore the content. It is obvious that the user from 80.100.245.50 is the one doing vandalism. For instance, it is a fact that debian-private and a related General Resolution exist.
The official logo guidelines still show that the bottle version still exists and is reserved for official use.


So it's not that the bottle version "was effectively superseded", it simply was not the correct logo to use anymore. ] (]) 11:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
I would like to request for arbitration if consensus cannot be reached. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:23, 16 February 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Software by the Debian project

Being a Linux distribution Debian consists almost entirely of free and open-source software written by 3rd parties. But some software is being developed by Debian, e.g. deb (file format), the Debian installer, Advanced Packaging Tool, and maybe some other stuff. Not sure whether this Debian-own software should get an own section. User:ScotXW 18:41, 29 August 2016

No longer free software/open source?

It includes non-free firmware in the installer. Is this already mentioned? Alohaidled (talk) 12:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I do not know if these links

https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20231102171742/https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2022/10/msg00001.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20231102171923/https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2022/10/msg00001.html

are already mentioned in the article or now, but some information may also need to be changed to reflect the changes in the policy of Debian.

I hope I'm using the talk page correctly.

I do not yet know where I should place this information about the policy change in Debian.

Other users may know where the best place in this article is to place the references.

I think near the top changing

"Since its founding,"

to

"Since its founding till 2022,"

And putting the links in a "ref" may be a way to show the change.

Though there may be a better way to link to the change.

Other Cody (talk) 21:19, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry but that's not a proper synthesis. Debian distributed an install image with proprietary firmware long before 2022, and the FSF's disavowal of Debian also existed long before that date. "Since its founding" may not be accurate, but "until 2022" is definitely incorrect. inclusivedisjunction (talk) 11:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
I've updated it to a better synthesis that talks about how Debian generally follows FOSS principles but includes some proprietary software. Dexcube (talk) 03:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Debian latest software version

Latest version as of 2/13/2024 is 12.5 (not 12.4) 27.110.206.46 (talk) 03:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Debian Logo

The article claims that the "genie bottle" was originally part of the logo and fell out of use. That seems to me to be either misleading or simply incorrect. When the logo was originally designed, there were two versions, one for public use and one for official use. The public use one was the one with the bottle, and the official one was the swirl only. Shortly after that logo design won the competition, it was decided to swap the meaning of both logos (one of the reasons being that is was weird that the official only use logo was a subset of the public one). The official logo guidelines still show that the bottle version still exists and is reserved for official use.

So it's not that the bottle version "was effectively superseded", it simply was not the correct logo to use anymore. Joghurt42 (talk) 11:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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