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== Please see this at ] == == Changes to the project banner ==
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Hi! I have made some changes to the ] in its :
Notice for CRIC members:
* I have changed the image to ], which is similar to ] I added .

* I have also added a few new notes;
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*# ] - Now that there are new task forces, this category would be helpful to keep track of articles.

*# ] - already exists; but added a visible note to it.
Please discuss there, not here. ] (]) 08:59, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
*# ] - already exists; but added a visible note to it.

*# ] - would be useful to keep track of former GA pages as well.
:Just passing this way. Interesting fight between two sockpuppets ! ] 15:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
*# ] - would be useful to keep track of current competitions.

* Cricket Collaboration - planning to begin it from February 2025.
::But sadly with an innocent user getting caught in the crossfire. JH (]) 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Others, please let me know what your thoughts about this are... <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 11:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

:Also, why is the ] on a talk page, instead of a project page...? <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 11:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== ] ==
::{{ping|AssociateAffiliate|Bearian|Jhall1|Joseph2302|Jpeeling|ReturnDuane|Spike 'em}} or anyone else: what are your thoughts about this... <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 02:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:::I have no opinion. ] (]) 02:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Dear Cricket experts: Right now the article in mainspace is a redirect. Should this topic have its own article, and is this one acceptable or at least worth improving? &mdash;] (]) 15:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks Anne! That's great catch - far too good to simply delete.
:At present there are articles for
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:] is an overview of the men's tournaments
:The started off as duplicate of ] then ended up a redirect to ].
:The AfC looks like a great replacement to me.
:Any thoughts, folks?
:--] (]) 02:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::By editing it you have delayed its deletion for six months. If you feel that the references are adequate I can see about getting it into mainspace. &mdash;] (]) 03:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

:::I have reviewed ] and decided that it (just barely) passes - based on the good reputation of the Cricinfo website. BTW some of the existing reference URLs need to be updated from cricinfo.com to espncricinfo.com. I have requested deletion of the existing redirect per {{tl|db-move}} so that the draft can be moved to ]. Once it has arrived I trust the capable members of this WikiProject to get it into shape. ] (]) 11:29, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

::::I've moved it to article space and tweaked it a bit, it was out of date and needed further references, but up to someone else keen enough to polish it now. ] (]) 12:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

:::::It should stay in Misplaced Pages as a separate article, not just as a silly little redirect to the Men's World Twenty20 ] (]) 13:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Okay, thanks to all of your help it is now at ]. &mdash;] (]) 18:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Seems to be a fork of the ] article which contains both men's and women's records. ] (]) 06:36, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::::I have completed the forking by stripping the Women's competition statistics from ]. ] (]) 08:53, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::Still seems a bit misleading. The ICC are treating this as one tournament with men's and women's competitions. ] (]) 03:47, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

== Wonderful names in Eng U19 ==

Just saw played today and thought others might enjoy seeing an England side containing a Tattersall, Rhodes and Hammond among others. --] (]) 13:44, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
:Which countries are they originally from? Pete from somewhere Her Maj is still head of state, aka --] (]) 02:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::''Cricinfo'' can be used to look up these sorts of things. You can just click through from their names on the scorecard I linked to. Oddly, they were all born in a country where Her Maj is still head of state, aka England. Incidentally, we have an article on the magnificently-named ], but both ] and ] are redlinks and they're both notable . --] (]) 17:01, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

== Merge English t20 articles ==

Can we merge ] and ]? I can't see the rationale for its retention and we'll have yet another copycat article with the introduction of the t20 Blast. <font face="Arial"><small>]]</small></font> 22:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::The main article might be merged, but every single season should have it's own article. ] (]) 13:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

:::Absolutely. What's the process for this? <font face="Arial"><small>]]</small></font> 00:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

== All-rounder's double ==

I notice that an IP editor changed ] from the 1500 run/150 wicket double to a 3000 run/150 wicket double. I have no significant objection to this - it prunes the template down - but I thought it should be discussed here. I guess all-rounder doubles traditionally have the runs at 10x the wickets. The more common double is 1000 run/100 wickets, but that would seem to be unwieldy. The 2000 run/200 wicket double seems just right for ODIs - it covers twelve players. ]] (]) 05:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:I suppose the argument for the 3000 runs/150 wickets criterion would be that it is more "balanced", in the sense that the runs and the wickets components are roughly equally hard to achieve. (At least, that would be the case in f-c and Test cricket. I haven't checked to see if it is as true in ODI cricket.) JH (]) 10:05, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

This article is in a poor state. This bloke played a load of f-c cricket, a decent number of Tests and then umpired similarly and we comment mostly about his ugly stance and his silly name. Both notable aspects of his life and career, but a tad ]. --] (]) 15:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:Dweller, the only response I can muster for this is {{tl|sofixit}}. ] (]) 19:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
::I can't. I'm transfixed by his weird stance and funny name. --] (]) 11:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
:::You're not alone. ] (]) 11:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

This article was nominated by a new user and it was passed by another account which seems to be the nominator himself. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;] <sub> ] </sub></span> 14:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

:Thanks for brining this to the project's attention Vensatry. Hopefully just a case of an over enthusiastic new editor. ] (]) 18:44, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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== Review request! ==
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Happy New Year all! I have a couple more Hampshire cricketers lined up for FA nom and wondered if anyone would be kind enough to review them? Any additions/suggestions much appreciated :)
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:Hi, ], and all the best to you for 2025. I'll try to find time to look at these. I have a full set of the original ''Playfair'' handbooks (1948–1962) and these guys feature in those so I'll see if there's anything that could be useful. For example, although I need to check, I think Roy Marshall may have been in one of their teams of the year.
Refer to template discussion page. ] (]) 06:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:On the subject of reviews, we were discussing key articles in need of improvement some weeks ago and I said I would look at ]. I've been making occasional forays into it and have just completed a full restructure to give it some balance and remove repetition. I'd like it to go to FA someday if possible but it still needs more research, especially of contemporary sources like the old ''Cricket'' magazine. I don't suppose anyone will pick it up in the near future, but I've placed it in the ] queue as I think it's ready for a review in terms of prose, lead, sources, NOR/NPOV, images, etc. The only thing that will change, if more content is unearthed, would be just that—more content.
:If anyone here can look at WG and make or suggest improvements, that will be great. Having said that, bear in mind it's still a very long article! ] (]) 12:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hi @], thank you and all the best in 2025 for you too. That would be great to see if there is any addition stuff for these articles, particularly Marshall, who I shall likely to take to FA in the next few weeks.
::I must have missed that discussion a few weeks ago (I'm guilty of not really visiting here all that often!). I'd be happy to have a look at W. G. and see what I can add. It would be nice to aim for FA for at least 10% of England Test cricketers, ~ 80 or so. Wynyard has been promoted, so that's another one done! The GAN queue is quite the queue, have several I want to take there, but by the time the review is complete I can probably bring them to FA!!! ] (]) 21:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Synth between cricketing disciplines ==
== International tour articles to 1914 ==


One thing that's popped into my mind recently - a long time ago I had an edit war with an editor after I moved a cricketer (I forget who) between categories on one of their team pages on the grounds that his own article listed him accordingly (which are more often than not backed up by a source for each player specifically). However, for team articles a link-to-the-team page seems to be overriding it all? For example, ] is listed as a batter on his own page, Surrey, and London Spirit, but as a wicket-keeper on ]. ] (]) 21:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
To conclude my activities here, I've done a review of the project's tour articles up to 1914 and included my findings in ] which you can also access via the to-do section above. There are many tour articles needing creation, still more needing expansion – a good objective for anyone interested in the history of international cricket. Quite a lot of tours to South Africa and New Zealand appear to have articles but in fact they are redirects to historical summaries of the two countries. Have fun. ] (]) 12:00, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


:I hasn't been paying any attention to BBL, but it does seem that Pope is 1st choice keeper for Adelaide, but does not fulfil this role for any other domestic team. ] (]) 21:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== Popular pages tool update ==
::That's as maybe, but doesn't actually answer my query, only one example. ] (]) 17:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I realised after I replied that it wasn't too helpful to the overall question. If teams release a squad list, or maintain one on their website, that mention player roles then I'd go with that. Many players seem to be classified differently in different sources, particularly all-rounders and occasional keepers like Pope. ] (]) 19:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)


== Where was this image originally published? ==


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Where was this image of James Lillywhite's 1876-77 touring team originally published? I can't seem to find where it originally came from, anyone have any ideas? Taking Southerton to FA and will inevitably be quizzed who the original publisher was! ] (]) 00:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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:That's a difficult one but I would guess it was taken at Lord's, and so it may have been commissioned by MCC. I see it was uploaded to WP from Reddit, but there's no certainty it was ever published in print. Reddit might have obtained it as part of a collection. It is definitely public domain, though. Good luck. ] (]) 01:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the ] or contact me on my talk page. ] (]) (for <span style="font-family:Broadway">]]</span>) 05:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi, {{ping|AssociateAffiliate}} by chance, I've seen the photo on page 13 of David Frith's ''England versus Australia'' compendium (published 2007 by Penguin). The caption gives the names of the players, plus A. Hogben (described as "tour financier", and looking decidedly shifty with the camera on him!). There are over 1,300 images in the book and David acknowledges a vast list of sources on page 4. A few exceptions apart, none of the 19th Century images including this one can be acknowledged, and David provides a caveat about them, saying: "All other illustrations are from the author's private collection of photographs, scrapbooks, postcards, cigarette cards, prints, books, and relics".
== Some Users are Always Deleting the notable T20 Centuries ==


Which leaves us none the wiser, except that David obviously found, or even purchased, the photo somewhere and, as there was no copyright on it by 2007, decided to use it in his book. It does facilitate things for you, though, should anyone ask about it, because you can cite it as public domain and published by David in 2007. ] (]) 15:21, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
I have been seeing for some times that whenever I am updating the list of the T20 centuries for some players, some users are deleting it or reverting it. It's actually take times to collect those data and put it up on Wiki. It needs some time consuming work. But how harsh people are that they delete it within a second without acknowledging the uploader's hard work or even appreciating it. Theose lists include some of the centuries from IPL, CLT20, Big Bash, Ram Slam T20. Those are not international of course, but notable. These are really popular competitions. So if I add those centuries along with the international t20 centuries, then where is the problem of some people? I can't understand. Some of them argue that these are domestic competition and not too necessary to add here. But how can you rate the domestic t20s with the domestic tests and ODs? Domestic T20s are really popular these days and they even sometimes drag more crowd and TRP and also media attention than some of the international matches. So how can just be so stereotype and remove everything related with T20s? It's Misplaced Pages. If tomorrow Chris Gayle scores a century in IPL or Quinton De Kock scores a century in CLT20, people will have a look at their Wiki-page the next day (you can check their page view stats just after they scored their domestic hundreds in T20s). And if people don't find that definite fact about them, they won't rely on Misplaced Pages anymore. It's some of the stereotype users for whom Misplaced Pages always go down. What's your problem if there are facts added here which are worth of their existence here? Check the news and the Misplaced Pages views have been down by a certain level in its English version from 2012 to 2013. If some of the users continue to do it, it will be down to further in the future. Hope you people understand it and won't be pulling the legs of those much needed stuffs in Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 14:46, 24 February 2014 (UTC)


== ] ==
== Luke Patel ==


A user (]) has brought it up on my ] that the {{t|Twenty20 competitions}} navbox is different from {{t|First-class cricket domestic competitions}} and {{t|List A cricket domestic competitions}} and it should be made similar as {{t|Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions}} as they did in .
*{{la|Luke Patel}}
Would someone please investigate the strange edits at this article. The latest edit is in this ]. Is the image added the subject of the article? Obviously the jokes added are inappropriate, but is any of the added text valid or is it just blatant vandalism? ] (]) 06:35, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
:Not sure it counts as vandalism: just looks like someone's having a bit of fun. Inappropriate for an encyclopedia, of course, but pretty harmless. I've now reverted but kept the pic. ] (]) 09:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
::Some of the "jokes" were BLP breaches. I take a dim view of this. --] (]) 22:27, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


I am opposing this because, unlike FC or LA, T20 cricket includes multi-national competitions such as ], ] etc. which are not domestic competitions. I have brought this here for a wider discussion and inputs from other users. Read the discussion on my user talkpage as well (]). <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 02:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Shameful ==


:This should probably be discussed on ]. You may like to copy existing discussions/arguments there. ] (]) 06:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
This project is a disgrace. The remaining members should hang their heads in shame over the AA issue given their refusal to help him following the appalling long-term provocation he endured before finally snapping and getting blocked indefinitely, by one of the site's typically incompetent admins, for his understandable retaliation. Of course, his retaliation did not sit easily with pro-Daft editor Johnlp who insists on his "divine right" to have Daft's offensive crap on his talk page and so his accolyte, the "admin" Harrias who "knows what he is talking about", is drafted in to block AA while Daft goes merrily on his way despite the farcical ] order placed on him.
::{{ping| Joseph2302}} courtesy ping. <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


== Correct name format for English county women's teams ==
Words like "hypocrisy" and "incompetence" easily spring to mind. This was originally supposed to be a project designed to inform readers about cricket. It started well but has descended into a morass of double standards and now it absolutely stinks. I am utterly disgusted and have no respect whatsoever for anyone who is pleased to call himself a member of something so appalling. Shame on you all. ] (]) 21:27, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
:If AA wants to be unblocked, he can always ask for it. He knows that. Why do you feel it necessary to do this on his behalf? ] (]) 21:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
::Why can't you understand that a stalemate has arisen and someone else needs to get involved to do something about it? The incompetent admin concerend insists on an apology and AA rightly refuses to apologise for retaliating against long-term provocation. If said admin had used common sense he would have blocked AA for a week to cool things down, given him some words of advice and taken up the fight against the real offender. But, oh no, we have an '''indefinite''' block and the victim is turned into the criminal. It all reads like something out of New Labour. Harrias is not fit to be an admin and should resign immediately for the way he has completely fouled up this case. It is absolutely disgusting and an affront to natural justice. ] (]) 21:39, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Once again, if AA wants to be unblocked, he can ask for it. Otherwise there's nothing to discuss, particularly not here at the cricket project, this project has nothing to do with editors being blocked, outings etc. Please stop ], it may end with your account being blocked. ] (]) 21:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


What should the English county women's teams articles be named? Reason I'm asking is that the Essex women article has been moved a couple of times recently from "Essex Women cricket team" to "Essex women's cricket team". I've raised Technical RMs to move it back (twice) but not sure if I am doing the right thing. There was a discussion on ] in October but it was inconclusive and the existing names were kept. Essex are still officially called Essex Women, so would that be the correct name? ] (]) 21:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, well that says it all, doesn't it? This site absolutely stinks. Hang you heads in shame if you have any. Obviously not. ] (]) 21:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks for popping by, as I've said all along, if AA wants to be considered to be unblocked, he can easily appeal via Arbcom. Cheers. ] (]) 21:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC) :My view is same as I posted on that RM: wait for 2025 season to start and see what the ] for them is then. ]] (]) 21:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
::I would say "Essex women's cricket team" to be ] with national teams, but in this case wait for the season to commence per Joseph. <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 01:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
==A Legal Point ==
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 23:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
If a person makea quantifiable and attributable remarks of a slanderous or libelous(in this case) nature they areplacingthemsel ves, potentially, in a position where another person could justifiably go to law. Remember that sites such as WP, like facebook or twitter, are not shielded from the normal precepts of law especially, when the full identity of the person producing the potentially actionable offences is known, and particular if that of the potential or alleging victim is known to the alleged abuser. Amusing quips, badly phrased arguments or heated words are one thing, directed remarks the smear a persons reputation are of course something else.] (]) 10:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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    Hi! I have made some changes to the project banner in its sandbox version:

    Others, please let me know what your thoughts about this are... Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

    Also, why is the to do list on a talk page, instead of a project page...? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
    @AssociateAffiliate, Bearian, Jhall1, Joseph2302, Jpeeling, ReturnDuane, and Spike 'em: or anyone else: what are your thoughts about this... Vestrian24Bio 02:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    I have no opinion. Bearian (talk) 02:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

    Review request!

    Happy New Year all! I have a couple more Hampshire cricketers lined up for FA nom and wondered if anyone would be kind enough to review them? Any additions/suggestions much appreciated :)

    AA (talk) 20:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

    Hi, AA, and all the best to you for 2025. I'll try to find time to look at these. I have a full set of the original Playfair handbooks (1948–1962) and these guys feature in those so I'll see if there's anything that could be useful. For example, although I need to check, I think Roy Marshall may have been in one of their teams of the year.
    On the subject of reviews, we were discussing key articles in need of improvement some weeks ago and I said I would look at W. G. Grace. I've been making occasional forays into it and have just completed a full restructure to give it some balance and remove repetition. I'd like it to go to FA someday if possible but it still needs more research, especially of contemporary sources like the old Cricket magazine. I don't suppose anyone will pick it up in the near future, but I've placed it in the WP:GAN queue as I think it's ready for a review in terms of prose, lead, sources, NOR/NPOV, images, etc. The only thing that will change, if more content is unearthed, would be just that—more content.
    If anyone here can look at WG and make or suggest improvements, that will be great. Having said that, bear in mind it's still a very long article! ReturnDuane (talk) 12:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hi @ReturnDuane, thank you and all the best in 2025 for you too. That would be great to see if there is any addition stuff for these articles, particularly Marshall, who I shall likely to take to FA in the next few weeks.
    I must have missed that discussion a few weeks ago (I'm guilty of not really visiting here all that often!). I'd be happy to have a look at W. G. and see what I can add. It would be nice to aim for FA for at least 10% of England Test cricketers, ~ 80 or so. Wynyard has been promoted, so that's another one done! The GAN queue is quite the queue, have several I want to take there, but by the time the review is complete I can probably bring them to FA!!! AA (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

    Synth between cricketing disciplines

    One thing that's popped into my mind recently - a long time ago I had an edit war with an editor after I moved a cricketer (I forget who) between categories on one of their team pages on the grounds that his own article listed him accordingly (which are more often than not backed up by a source for each player specifically). However, for team articles a link-to-the-team page seems to be overriding it all? For example, Ollie Pope is listed as a batter on his own page, Surrey, and London Spirit, but as a wicket-keeper on Adelaide Strikers. Spa-Franks (talk) 21:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

    I hasn't been paying any attention to BBL, but it does seem that Pope is 1st choice keeper for Adelaide, but does not fulfil this role for any other domestic team. Spike 'em (talk) 21:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    That's as maybe, but doesn't actually answer my query, only one example. Spa-Franks (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    Yeah, I realised after I replied that it wasn't too helpful to the overall question. If teams release a squad list, or maintain one on their website, that mention player roles then I'd go with that. Many players seem to be classified differently in different sources, particularly all-rounders and occasional keepers like Pope. Spike 'em (talk) 19:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

    Where was this image originally published?

    Where was this image of James Lillywhite's 1876-77 touring team originally published? I can't seem to find where it originally came from, anyone have any ideas? Taking Southerton to FA and will inevitably be quizzed who the original publisher was! AA (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

    That's a difficult one but I would guess it was taken at Lord's, and so it may have been commissioned by MCC. I see it was uploaded to WP from Reddit, but there's no certainty it was ever published in print. Reddit might have obtained it as part of a collection. It is definitely public domain, though. Good luck. ReturnDuane (talk) 01:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hi, @AssociateAffiliate: by chance, I've seen the photo on page 13 of David Frith's England versus Australia compendium (published 2007 by Penguin). The caption gives the names of the players, plus A. Hogben (described as "tour financier", and looking decidedly shifty with the camera on him!). There are over 1,300 images in the book and David acknowledges a vast list of sources on page 4. A few exceptions apart, none of the 19th Century images including this one can be acknowledged, and David provides a caveat about them, saying: "All other illustrations are from the author's private collection of photographs, scrapbooks, postcards, cigarette cards, prints, books, and relics".

    Which leaves us none the wiser, except that David obviously found, or even purchased, the photo somewhere and, as there was no copyright on it by 2007, decided to use it in his book. It does facilitate things for you, though, should anyone ask about it, because you can cite it as public domain and published by David in 2007. ReturnDuane (talk) 15:21, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Template:Twenty20 competitions

    A user (Csknp) has brought it up on my user talkpage that the {{Twenty20 competitions}} navbox is different from {{First-class cricket domestic competitions}} and {{List A cricket domestic competitions}} and it should be made similar as {{Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions}} as they did in this edit.

    I am opposing this because, unlike FC or LA, T20 cricket includes multi-national competitions such as Global Super League, Champions League Twenty20 etc. which are not domestic competitions. I have brought this here for a wider discussion and inputs from other users. Read the discussion on my user talkpage as well (User talk:Vestrian24Bio#Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions discussion). Vestrian24Bio 02:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

    This should probably be discussed on the template's talk page. You may like to copy existing discussions/arguments there. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Joseph2302: courtesy ping. Vestrian24Bio 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

    Correct name format for English county women's teams

    What should the English county women's teams articles be named? Reason I'm asking is that the Essex women article has been moved a couple of times recently from "Essex Women cricket team" to "Essex women's cricket team". I've raised Technical RMs to move it back (twice) but not sure if I am doing the right thing. There was a discussion on Talk:Berkshire Women cricket team in October but it was inconclusive and the existing names were kept. Essex are still officially called Essex Women, so would that be the correct name? Bcp67 (talk) 21:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

    My view is same as I posted on that RM: wait for 2025 season to start and see what the WP:COMMONNAME for them is then. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
    I would say "Essex women's cricket team" to be WP:CONSISTENT with national teams, but in this case wait for the season to commence per Joseph. Vestrian24Bio 01:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Geoffrey Boycott

    Geoffrey Boycott has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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