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	:Hi Rodii. I think the right place for discussion is at ] where the other contributors could follow the discussion as well in order to improve the article. If you find errors though, you can also help to improve the article by correcting those faults instead of removing one's contributions. Thanks! ] (]) 17:11, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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	Good message at WT:MOSLINK. I do a lot of maintenance work that includes unlinking common terms and chronological items. But en.WP is ahead of the game in this respect compared with most of the other WPs. May I ask whether you have experience at another WP? And if so, whether you've had any success in convincing other editors to use the wikilinking system more skilfully? I've watchlisted this page if you want to reply here. ] ] 11:51, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
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	:2) ...linking a lot of common terms

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	:=> If your try to remove excess linking - even with well-grounded reasons and participating the discussion at the Talk page - it is likely to just get reverted without any explanations. There is also a very little contributor base in the fi.wiki, and therefore it is pretty much the same group of contributors that keep patrolling on the changes in the articles and backing-up the doings of one an each other.
	:If there shall be any discussion though, it tends to be taken to your User -talk page, often on a very personal level, and taken away from below the eyes of the other article contributors...

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	:The Finnish Misplaced Pages has sunken deep with it's current conceptions, and the general mindset with wikilinks still seems to be "the more, the better".
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	:That's pretty much my experiences in my rather small language version. Maybe I should just drift towards '''Citizendium''' (http://en.citizendium.org/Welcome_to_Citizendium) slowly xD ... How about your experiences Tony1? Which language edition you've been working with? ] (]) 19:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
	::You might tell them that overlinking has the same ill effect for all readers—whether of en.WP or fi.WP. The particular language is irrelevant. The war about linking started with the ridiculous date-autoformatting that was introduced into en.WP in 2003 as a ham-fisted solution to editors' fights about US vs non-US formatting. Only logged-in editors who had chosen prefs saw any "benefit". Not readers.<p>The main battle was won about six years ago: what was surprising was the vehemence of objection, and the fact that within a year or two hardly any editor objected. The whole attitude has turned 180 degrees. It's a symptom of how crude the wikicultures are in other languages that readers don't count. The linking system is washed out and the text looks pretty bad, because no one has stood up to the mind-set of the geek-nuts who are in control. Very happy to have you editing here.
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	] states that "Links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." I can't really understand why you are neglecting this? ] (]) 17:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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	:Seems like the edit infobox didn't capture this (was left empty), sorry. Anyway, I undid revision back to version by ] (]) =P So I'm in favour of his/her edit... ] (]) 18:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

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	::It's allright. I appreciate your concern over the overlinks by the way. ] (]) 21:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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	<s>All the well sourced text in the lede was deleted. I think the sourced text should be restored not . The current lede is poorly written.</s> ] (]) 08:18, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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	:Please continue the discussion at the appropriate Talk Page of the article (]). There other contributors can follow the discussion and the grounds for your edits as well. I started there a new section where I quoted your post at my talk page. Thanks. ] (]) 07:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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