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Hi there, I'm writing here to prevent some unnecessary editwarring. Some of the sources used in the article refer to this earthquake as the "Pichilemu earthquake", instead of "Lago Rapel earthquake". Indeed "Lago Rapel quake" is a totally valid name, but I believe that it is more correct to call it like it is now. Regards, ] (]) 21:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC) Hi there, I'm writing here to prevent some unnecessary editwarring. Some of the sources used in the article refer to this earthquake as the "Pichilemu earthquake", instead of "Lago Rapel earthquake". Indeed "Lago Rapel quake" is a totally valid name, but I believe that it is more correct to call it like it is now. Regards, ] (]) 21:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

:I have to dissent with Küñall's opinion. If you google "1985 Lake Rapel earthquake", the search engine gives you about 46,000,000 results and "1985 Pichilemu earthquake" gives only 56,400 results. As ] applies here, the most used name is the Rapel Lake and not Pichilemu. Regards. --] (]) 19:01, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
::In the cited academic sources, publicly available at the National Library of Chile (namely, the book of Catástrofes), it is named the "Pichilemu earthquake" or "coastal earthquake" instead of "Lago Rapel earthquake". ] (]) 04:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

:::Any other source that says the same location? Only one book is not enough to take a name as the most common for an earthquake. --] (]) 04:20, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
::::Well, the Sismo del 8... source also refers to this quake as the "terremoto de la costa", but I believe that the most valid name is the one used by the Catástrofes book. ] (]) 04:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

:::::"1985 Lake Rapel earthquake" or "1985 Rapel Lake earthquake" is more correct than Pichilemu earthquake. The epicentar smuch closer to that lake than to Pichilemu. User Küñall (]) (formerly known as "Diego Grez" (]) and "Mr.Wiki") has not provided reliables sources on the usage of "Pichilemu" for this earhquake. –] (]) 17:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
::::rainbow buddy, is it necessary to provide my full background as if it was a crime to have contributed with my full name? like it or not, the Pichilemu name is supported by sources and is not an idea that came into my mind to publicize Pichilemu as you have said. ] (]) 00:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
*] folks, FOC. ] <small>]</small> 05:09, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

:::::I have changed opinion... given that the only scholarly sources talks about Pichilemu earthquake it appears to be the most appropiate (for now). Im open to change my opinion if new sources become available. ] (]) 00:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Given the recent rename '''without discussion''' to this unofficial name, I urge somebody to move this back to "1985 Pichilemu earthquake". dunno what's the purpose of minimizing Pichilemu... the 1985 earthquake is officially denominated "Pichilemu earthquake", see JSTOR, Google Books, et al, leave your personal points of views aside... --] (]) 18:35, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

:Well, the ''Pichilemu'' name is also not official. We didn't even have official names for earthquakes. Using the ] criteria, as I said some time ago, the most common name is "1985 Rapel Lake earthquake". --] (]) 04:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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:{{Agree}} with the move to "1985 Rapel Lake earthquake". There's no sources that name this earthquake as "Pichilemu earthquake". Some sources, like , states "Epicenter: East from Rancagua, Note: Hipocenter under Rapel Lake". There's no mention about Pichilemu. In the same website, but , it clearly states "Rancagua-Lago Rapel". states "NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE." (again, no mention about Pichilemu). In this cases the name must be given to the epicenter/hipocenter and not the most nearby city, because there's no sources that state that name; and even if some source states them as "Pichilemu earthquake", it fails to meet ] criteria. --] (]) 04:46, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

:As an update, we have a reference given from the ] (one of the most important universities in Chile), this: ''réplica del 9 de Abril de 1985 con epicentro en 34.17° S - 71.54° W, cerca de Rapel'' (April 9 1985 aftershock, with epicenter near Rapel). One more time, no mention again about Pichilemu. --] (]) 04:54, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

::{{Agree}} with the requested move. There is not evidence of calling this earthquake as "Pichilemu". --''''']]''''' ''''']''''' 16:52, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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Pichilemu vs. Lago Rapel

Hi there, I'm writing here to prevent some unnecessary editwarring. Some of the sources used in the article refer to this earthquake as the "Pichilemu earthquake", instead of "Lago Rapel earthquake". Indeed "Lago Rapel quake" is a totally valid name, but I believe that it is more correct to call it like it is now. Regards, Küñall (talk) 21:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I have to dissent with Küñall's opinion. If you google "1985 Lake Rapel earthquake", the search engine gives you about 46,000,000 results and "1985 Pichilemu earthquake" gives only 56,400 results. As WP:COMMONNAME applies here, the most used name is the Rapel Lake and not Pichilemu. Regards. --Sfs90 (talk) 19:01, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
In the cited academic sources, publicly available at the National Library of Chile (namely, the book of Catástrofes), it is named the "Pichilemu earthquake" or "coastal earthquake" instead of "Lago Rapel earthquake". Küñall (talk) 04:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Any other source that says the same location? Only one book is not enough to take a name as the most common for an earthquake. --Sfs90 (talk) 04:20, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, the Sismo del 8... source also refers to this quake as the "terremoto de la costa", but I believe that the most valid name is the one used by the Catástrofes book. Küñall (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
"1985 Lake Rapel earthquake" or "1985 Rapel Lake earthquake" is more correct than Pichilemu earthquake. The epicentar smuch closer to that lake than to Pichilemu. User Küñall (contribs) (formerly known as "Diego Grez" (contribs) and "Mr.Wiki") has not provided reliables sources on the usage of "Pichilemu" for this earhquake. –Sietecolores (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
rainbow buddy, is it necessary to provide my full background as if it was a crime to have contributed with my full name? like it or not, the Pichilemu name is supported by sources and is not an idea that came into my mind to publicize Pichilemu as you have said. Küñall (talk) 00:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I have changed opinion... given that the only scholarly sources talks about Pichilemu earthquake it appears to be the most appropiate (for now). Im open to change my opinion if new sources become available. Sietecolores (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Given the recent rename without discussion to this unofficial name, I urge somebody to move this back to "1985 Pichilemu earthquake". dunno what's the purpose of minimizing Pichilemu... the 1985 earthquake is officially denominated "Pichilemu earthquake", see JSTOR, Google Books, et al, leave your personal points of views aside... --191.112.9.6 (talk) 18:35, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, the Pichilemu name is also not official. We didn't even have official names for earthquakes. Using the WP:COMMONNAME criteria, as I said some time ago, the most common name is "1985 Rapel Lake earthquake". --Sfs90 (talk) 04:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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1985 Pichilemu earthquake1985 Rapel Lake earthquake – I have received contradictory requests about where this page should be. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Agree with the move to "1985 Rapel Lake earthquake". There's no sources that name this earthquake as "Pichilemu earthquake". Some sources, like this, states "Epicenter: East from Rancagua, Note: Hipocenter under Rapel Lake". There's no mention about Pichilemu. In the same website, but another page, it clearly states "Rancagua-Lago Rapel".The USGS states "NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE." (again, no mention about Pichilemu). In this cases the name must be given to the epicenter/hipocenter and not the most nearby city, because there's no sources that state that name; and even if some source states them as "Pichilemu earthquake", it fails to meet WP:COMMONNAME criteria. --Sfs90 (talk) 04:46, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
As an update, we have a reference given from the University of Chile (one of the most important universities in Chile), that states this: réplica del 9 de Abril de 1985 con epicentro en 34.17° S - 71.54° W, cerca de Rapel (April 9 1985 aftershock, with epicenter near Rapel). One more time, no mention again about Pichilemu. --Sfs90 (talk) 04:54, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Agree with the requested move. There is not evidence of calling this earthquake as "Pichilemu". --Warko 16:52, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

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