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= January 8 = | ||
== Hudson Bay == | |||
== Creating your Own Misplaced Pages page == | |||
What did I do wrong with the {{tl|sfn}} at ? It won't link to the actual book listing. It's references 16 and 21. Thanks. ] (solidly non-human), ], ] 04:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I am responsible to create my version of a Misplaced Pages page explaining the concept and theories of intercultural communication. I am aware that this website already has a topic of such sort. Is there a way where I can start from a fresh page and build my own style so there is no plagiarism taken into account during the process? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:{{Re|CambridgeBayWeather}} It was ]. -- ] (]) 07:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Well, Misplaced Pages doesn't allow multiple articles on a single topic. You're welcome to edit the existing page, but you shouldn't start a new page on ] since one already exists. ] ] 00:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for catching it. ] (solidly non-human), ], ] 08:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:If some professor or teacher has given this to you as an assignment, they do not understand '''''at all''''' how we work or what we are for. If this is a "sample piece" as part of a writing job test, you are being ripped off by an unscrupulous (or very clueless; or both) "employer". --] | ] 04:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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== 2025 in country music == | ||
At ], does anyone know why there are songs under "Top new album releases"? --] (]) 13:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I have a request for the Federalist Papers section of Misplaced Pages. Currently most Federalist paper pages have a summary, synopsis or the like which I still believe it is good given the ability to look back and see how they were viewed and received. Also for a person who just wants to get the gist of the document without reading the entire document. Some papers pages have a link to a photograph of the paper in question which is grainy and hard to read. I suggest a transcribed version of each document, word for word, so a person wanting to read the exact words written on the subject by our founding fathers is available to anyone coming to that certain page. | |||
:They mostly seem to have been added by IP 2603:8000:9401:B55:2407:F6EC:241A:CA3E and another IP in the same range. IP's often change, so these are quite likely to be the same person. There's probably no point in posting on the IP's user talk page for that reason. | |||
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:I suggest raising the issue on ], and get consensus for removing the songs from that table (perhaps moving them to another table?) You might also want to put a note on ], pointing to the discussion you create. | |||
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:Or else you can be ] and rearrange the article yourself. ] (]) 15:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::The CODE is in the correct section, the SONGS are in the wrong section. I do not have the skill set to fix this without removing the tunes in their entirety. --] (]) 15:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Is what you want? I believe it's the Federalist papers on Wikisource <span style="background:silver;font-family:Kristen ITC;">]</span> 00:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Fixed by closing the table. ] (]) 20:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Thank you! --] (]) 01:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Question about reusing references and reliable sources<span class="anchor" id="Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2025"></span> == | |||
== software Engineering == | |||
As my account is 3 days old, I would like someone to move this to the help desk itself: | |||
the effort and cost required to build the software.Use any estimation technique? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:] '''Please ].'''<br>Welcome to the Misplaced Pages Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do others' homework, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.<br>Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can {{Google wikipedia||search Misplaced Pages}} or {{Google||search the Web}}. <br>If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the ] can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions ''here'', just those about using Misplaced Pages.<!-- Template:HD --> --] | ] 04:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi. I’ve inputted 2 claims into an article supported by the same source, and I’ve managed to cite the first claim but wanted to use the same citation on the second claim and I have problems with that. How do I use an existing citation on a different part of the article? Please use an example, because I understood I need to use names, but I am failing to actually use the names (I am not sure how to). Also, is ''The Economic Times'' a WP:RS? ] (]) 14:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Fraudulent Misplaced Pages article about a 'Daniell Family' == | |||
:{{re|Waited2seconds}} the following source code: | |||
:: <nowiki> Some wild assertion.<ref name="foo">the really great reference</ref> Another wild assertion.<ref name="foo"/></nowiki> | |||
:results in: | |||
::Some wild assertion.<ref name="foo">the really great reference</ref> Another wild assertion.<ref name="foo"/> | |||
:since I do not use the visual editor, I hope you can use the source editor. -] (]) 14:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::I looked up ''The Economic Times'' at WP:RSN and found ]. As the discussion was inconclusive, I suggest using the source with caution, see ]. ] (]) 14:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks for the help. Helped very much. Couldn’t reply before my account became autoconfirmed ] (]) 17:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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==Gaelic speakers/reader== | |||
Hello, I have recently joined Misplaced Pages and have been reading Misplaced Pages articles about a lot of families on Misplaced Pages (I am interested in family histories). | |||
Hi Folks, does anybody know any regular gealic speakers on Misplaced Pages who can translate loch names on a regular basis. Thanks. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 18:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Most of the editors in ] don't seem to have edited recently, but in ] @] seems to be current, while @] says they've moved to gd-wiki, but I see they've edited here within the last two months. Whether either of these would be willing is another matter, of course. ] (]) 18:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I came across an article about a so called " ] " . This article does '''not''' seem to make sense at all as most information mentioned is not linked to the subject of the article and none of the sources listed are referring to this "Daniell family". I cannot find any further information about the notability or importance of this family on the internet either. | |||
:Are there any particular lochs that you have in mind? I have a book of Scottish place names, and know some online sources, which might help. (Incidentally, the name of the language is Gaelic.) ] (]) 21:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{ping|AndrewWTaylor}} This one ]. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 22:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|User:scope_creep}} I'm happy to answer questions, just put them on my Talk page, just not doing that much in mainspace any more. ] (]) 12:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::@] Interestingly, Google translate, when prompted that this is in the Irish language, gives the English translation as "Loch a'Baid-luachraich" whereas Microsoft's equivalent (via Bing search) says it is "the lake of the rush". ] (]) 14:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
It's the 'loch of the clump of rushes'; ''luachair'' 'rush(es)', genitive ''luachrach'', bad 'clump, cluster', genitive ''baid'', ''bad luachrach'' 'a clump of rushes' and then some more genitive marking piled on tope. In proper Gaelic spelling it would be ''loch a' bhaid luachrach'' (never trust machine translation when it comes to Gaelic word spacing... in fact, better not trust it at all when it comes to small languages!) ] (]) 17:57, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{ping|Akerbeltz}} I got as far as the rushes from the book but not much further. Could I call on you for further Gaelic translations at the odd moment? I see your in category that ColinFine mentioned above and was planning to go round each editor entry in turn to try and find somebody. If possible could you translate "Loch Mhic' Ille Riabhaich"? Thanks. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 12:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{ping|Akerbeltz}} And this: "Càrn bad na h-Achlaise". Something to do with an armpit or oxters? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 17:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Yes but let's move this to my talk page. ] (]) 17:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Merge conflicts - is there something I am missing? == | |||
When I looked at the history of this article, I came across several Misplaced Pages accounts all created on the 9th of April and all of them have similar editing patterns on their talk pages. It seems like they are ]. | |||
I see that it has a diffing system, but on the merge conflict page, is it really asking me to open a new tab, switch both to code view and hand merge manually myself? The edit conflict help page states ''"Both the source code editor and the visual editor use CVS-style edit-conflict merging, based on the diff3 utility."'', but I can't really find merge tools on the merge page. ] (]) 23:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I am very worried about this article, as somebody might be creating an article about their own family, making them seem more important/notable than they really are. I have a feeling this article might turn into something serious or fraudulent, as this article claims links with famous important families and institutions, such as the ] family and ], when there are '''no''' legitimate sources anywhere confirming any link with anybody or anything mentioned in this article. | |||
= January 9 = | |||
Furthermore, this article vaguely mentions links to two English painters, but I cannot find any confirmation anywhere about the links with these painters. | |||
== Access to citation indexes == | |||
I would appreciate it if an experienced editor would seriously take a look at the accounts editing this page and consider deleting the article. | |||
Thanks--] (]) 04:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi, I'm wondering how to determine ] #1, and specifically how to access the two citation indexes, Web of Science and Scopus. It seems that they require subscription to access them, so I'm wondering if there is a way to ask if someone could look them up, like asking about references at ]? | |||
:It certainly looks a little suspicious, as you say - I'll look into it further. ] (]) 05:07, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
I'm specifically wanting to check ] - the draft has been declined at AfC, with reference to ], but the decliner also said " Significant secondary coverage is needed" (although ] explicitly states that many academics "are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources.") I was able to see on Scopus that Elizabeth L Miller has authored 106 papers, and Google Scholar shows that some have been cited 200, 300 or 400 times, so I think there is a good possibility that she does meet Criterion 1 of WP:NACADEMIC - but how do I confirm that? Many thanks, ] (]) 04:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
It looks like large portions of information and the sources have been copied from the article about the ].--] (]) 05:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Pinging {{ping|WeirdNAnnoyed}} who declined the submission. ] (]) 05:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:In the ] section, they have not even bothered to edit "Rockefeller" to "Daniell". This hoax article should be deleted. ] (]) 06:05, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::If I understand correctly, you're trying to meet ] criterion 1. I would have accepted that as evidence of her impact in her field (my main concern was the sources being mostly non-independent). Geology isn't my discipline so I don't know what citation rates count as high-impact. As for getting access to citation databases, I can't help you there. However, I work at a university so it's trivial for me to get that data. If you'd like I can try to do some digging on her citations and h-index and get back to you later today or tomorrow. ] (]) 12:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Thank you very much, I'd really appreciate that. The draft does need editing - I see on the draft creator's talk page that they have been advised that another draft bio didn't have the appropriate tone or format. I'll check back in a couple of days when you've maybe been able to check her citations and h-index, and I'll be happy to do some editing on the draft. ] (]) 22:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Pinging {{ping|Clandresen}} who created the draft. ] (]) 02:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Hello {{ping|WeirdNAnnoyed}}, thanks again for your offer of checking citation indexes. Another editor has worked on this draft and has just added a link to a Google Scholar indexation of her papers, including h-index and i10-index, so it won't be necessary for you to do it. (Although ] cautions against using Google Scholar citation metrics, I assume the other editor knows what they're doing.) ] (]) 23:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:], I know nothing about geology. Still.... I see within the draft "This paper proposes a much simpler history of Cordillera than that proposed in Colpron and Nelson (2009)." It's normal for a paper to propose this or that. But how has this proposal been received by other, unrelated geologists (''not'' her frequent co-authors/collaborators, etc)? If {{Blue|Lieber and Novotny (2018) described the history as "remarkably perceptive and highly convincing"}} <small></small>, then saying so would I think add evidence of notability to her work, and thereby to her. And of course it's not just unalloyed praise that would have value; what's wanted is evidence of the importance of her work, in the eyes of her peers. -- ] (]) 08:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''Note:''' Article has been deemed a hoax and tagged for speedy deletion. <b>~<i><font color="#07517C">]</font></i><font color="#6FA23B">]</font></b> <small>] ]</small> 06:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for your reply. The current draft needs editing, which would be worth it if she can be shown to be notable through the WP:NACADEMIC criteria. As ] explain, "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates." That is why I would like to access the ]. ] (]) 09:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I've deleted the article and restored the legitimate redirect that used to be at that title. ''']'''<font color="green">]</font> 07:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::She is notable. Both as an established full professor at a well known notable university and from having more than five papers with >100 citations on each which she does. There is other stuff there is as well that makes her notable. Hope that help. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 11:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Thank you, that's what I was thinking. ] (]) 22:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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== Reverting war == | ||
I have a problem with that is constantly adding wrong item to the article ]. Some help would be useful to block such a user. Thanks beforehand. ] (]) 15:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I have been drafting an article but it now has a redirect that the page has been renamed/moved. I cant find the page and I cannot draft another version because it takes me back to the same redirect page. I cannot make sense of the instructions and do not know why this has happened. Help please <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Hi, and welcome to the help desk. Your draft was previously located at ], which now redirects to ]. This is where your draft is located. Your draft was moved into the "Draft:" namespace as that is the preferred location for article drafts. Hope this helps, <b>~<i><font color="#07517C">]</font></i><font color="#6FA23B">]</font></b> <small>] ]</small> 06:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::You can use the "contributions" link at the very top of the page (as well as in your signature and other places) to find out . -- ] 12:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:]. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 15:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Is posting the raw translation of articles acceptable, or should I format them? == | |||
== Misplaced Pages pages are not indexed by Google == | |||
I plan on using Duolingo to mass translate a bunch of articles. I find articles that need translations, and then I have the community translate them. | |||
Hello! Could you please explain why a page may remain unindexed by Google 90 days after its creation, even though it is indexed by other search engines? ] (]) 16:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Usually, I'd get the translation, and then format it myself. This, however, takes a lot of my time and I'd prefer not spending all day formatting articles. | |||
:Articles need to be patrolled by a New Pages Patroller. If that's occurred, you'd have to ask Google why something is not indexed, we have no control or influence over their algorithms. ] (]) 16:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I was thinking, would it be acceptable if I just posted the raw translation without the formatting, and leave it to the community to format? | |||
:@] Even after the article has been patrolled (which you can check by going to the history page of the article and clicking on "View logs for this page" at the top), search engines may not actually do their indexing for some time afterwards. However, I find that if you make even a minor edit to the article once it is available for crawling, it will be indexed very quickly because Google etc. know how useful Misplaced Pages articles are to those doing searches. ] (]) 16:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{ping|Sanidelle}} Yes, Google appears to monitor recent edits but there is no edit when noindex is automatically removed after 90 days so Google will not know it unless they revisit the page for some reason. ] (]) 21:22, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== "Edit source" v "edit" == | |||
For example, here is an original translation: ] | |||
It's a while since I edited Misplaced Pages and when I just went to do so the option to "edit" does not appear but appears to have been replaced by "edit source". The thought of doing so using code is beyond me. How do I get back the old way of editing where I could see what I was doing? ] (]) 16:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
And here is what a raw translation would look like: ] | |||
:@] You probably want to use the visual editor wherever you can. Look at your settings at ] and you'll see how to set that up. Instructions also at ]. The visual editor isn't easily available everywhere and has some minor limitations compared to the source editor. See ] for a brief introduction to the good stuff you can do in source editing. ] (]) 16:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I ask this, because I've noticed that the community helps out with the articles by adding link to them and whatont. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::Thanks Michael. I have twice now set the preferences and saved them but the toolbar does not appear. Is it hidden somewhere? ] (]) 16:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::On a PC (I don't use a phone to edit), it is not a tool but a separate word next to "Read" in the horizontal menu at the top of the article. One says "Edit" = visual edit and the other says "Edit source". ] (]) 16:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm using a PC. This is the problem. I was used to seeing the word edit but now only get "Read - Edit Source - View History" with no mention of "edit" alone. This is my problem! ] (]) 17:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Then I am pretty sure you haven't ticked "Enable visual editor" and saved at ]. If you are sure you have, you need to take this up at ]. ] (]) 17:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::I absolutely have, so I'll do as you suggest. Thanks. ] (]) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::@] but first, don't forget to look at your configuration of the dropdown menu just below the tick-box for the visual editor. ] (]) 18:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::All fixed. I had somehow changed the "Editing mode" setting. Someone directed me to the place to fix this. Thanks for all your help, Mike. ] (]) 18:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Co-prince of Andorra for French Republic == | |||
:I am having difficulty understanding your question. When you write "the community", do you refer to the community of Misplaced Pages editors? My guess is that you are proposing to create machine-translated articles, in the hope that other Misplaced Pages editors will then do the rest of the work. If I am right, it would help to see a specimen machine-translated example. The example you have given of a "raw translation" is not translated at all, it is in Spanish. ] (]) 08:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
: – and your example of an "original translation" was created in English, as one might expect of an article concerning the creation of the US constitution. ] (]) 09:09, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Greetings everyone ! I have an idea for articles about those who were "]". Click on the link to see the list of people concerned. | |||
: For advice on translating from other languages into English, see ]. For advice on translating from other languages into English, also see ]. Please note that ] says "'''Misplaced Pages consensus is that an unedited machine translation, left as a Misplaced Pages article, is worse than nothing.'''" --] (]) 09:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
A "]" '''(Link points to the article about this political function)''' is also one of the "]". <br /> | |||
:I apologize, I mean community as the Duolingo Community (https://www.duolingo.com/), and 'original translation' was supposed to be 'original article'. The sandbox page I linked to is the actual translation. I meant format as in titles, boxes, rows, references and general organization.] (]) 14:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)The Red Rat Writer | |||
Is this sensical to add this tenure in the infobox of an article about a president ? | |||
I'd like to do it but a '''"President of France"''' is automatically one of the '''"Co-princes"'''. <br /> | |||
::This is a potential copyright issue. When the members of the duolingo community translate something, each contributor hold the copyright to their share of the translation. Unless duolingo has somehow arranged to have the finished work licensed under the ] or some other license that is compatible with Misplaced Pages, we can't use it. ] (]) 14:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
I prefer to ask because a '''"French President"''' is a co-prince ] and therefore it is maybe non-sensical to add this information in an infobox. ] (]) 19:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I don't see it as non-sensical. Wouldn't be known automatically.] (]) 00:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Help in expanding an article == | |||
== Timeline errors == | |||
I would very much like to expand the article on Christopher M. Reddy, marine chemist. Although I took the Gypsy Horse article from a stub to a full article, I worked with Montanabw on this, and I am a neophyte in Misplaced Pages, and this has been sometime in the past. Could an editor in living biographies work possibly work with me a bit? I know how to edit a page and I am quite familiar with using objective, reputable sources to substantiate content. I am not as familiar with how to go about this as I would like. Thank you. ] (]) 20:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Could someone fix the errors in ]? Regards.--] '''''(])''''' 10:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:], as you expand the article ], please remove external links that appear in the body. (As a pair of examples, we now read "recognized Reddy’s achievements as a with the ": as currently presented, both external links are improper, although either would be usable within a reference.) Just do your best improving and augmenting the article; and when you don't know what to do, or know what you should do but don't know how to do it, ask here. -- ] (]) 22:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: The syntax required is described at ], but (for the first error at least) the error message is self-explanatory. The error message says "''Period attribute 'from' invalid. Specify year >= 1800.''" because ] tells you that "''this format is only allowed for dates starting from 01/01/1800''" and you had tried to use "''01/01/1700''". --] (]) 10:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: Is there a timeline that accepts years before 1800? Regards.--] '''''(])''''' 10:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Add ] to ] == | |||
== Can i merge these accounts? == | |||
Hello, | |||
I have a uncompleted global ccount named "Manedwolf" (). There are three acounts named "Manedwolf" too in ], and , which aren't active since 2005, 2007 and 2007 respectivly, from what i saw in the user contribution and talk pages.<br /> | |||
Is it possible to merge these all or merge the accounts named "Dorhi" with "Manedwolf? – ] (]) 12:20, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:see ]. -- ] 12:26, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: Look at the 2nd note under "Notes". Is it refers to my en.wiki account (which is not active) or to my main account (which is constantly active)?--] (]) 12:36, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::No problem there. In your case of wanting to unify Manedwolf, it either doesn't apply at all, or it applies to the Manedwolf account at other wikis. ] (]) 13:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
request adding this condition to the template above. Probably needs a new section "pelvis" under "arm" and "leg". | |||
== Primary and secondary source == | |||
It's too complicated to edit this template, I don't know how to do it correctly. | |||
I haven't edited Misplaced Pages for a long time, so: | |||
Also I noted on the talk page of the template another user requested to add some other conditions to it. | |||
For example, if I write in the article Captain America 2 "Website A says this movie will have a sequel", should I cite it to A, or to another source B that says the same information? If I cite it to A, is A considered primary source or secondary source? | |||
Many thanks if you can help ] (]) 21:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Are there any diff if I only write "This movie will have a sequel" and cite it to A?--'''<font color=red>]</font>''' ''<sub>'''<font color=#FA8072>]</font>'''-]</sub>'' 13:09, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Primary sources are sources which do not provide analysis or context for information. Primary sources are ''raw data''. For example, census records or birth certificates are primary sources. They provide no context. Secondary sources are sources where people research primary sources and the provide analysis and context for those sources. For example, a book where someone has gone through census records and produced statements about demographic trends based on those census records. Misplaced Pages accepts both equally fine, so neither is a problem. However, you '''cannot''' provide your own analysis cited to a primary source. You cannot, say, cite the U.S. census and then say something like "So-and-so live in blighted areas" based on that. You need to find someone else who has reached that conclusion. The issue is not whether a source is primary or secondary source, the issue is that you cannot go beyond what the source directly says in Misplaced Pages. A ] is reliable. If you have a good, reliable source for information about a sequel, for example if the producers of the movie have themselves said that they plan to produce a sequel, then go with that. If the source is "Unconfirmed reports say..." and it appears on Joe Schmoe's Movie Blog, then no, that isn't reliable. --]''''']''''' 16:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Hello, @]. ] is the best place to suggest this. ] (]) 22:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Support needed on article "Hochtief" == | |||
::Hello, thank you for answer but unclear. Do you mean the talk page of the template (])? | |||
::There is a request on there dated 2012... nobody is looking at that page. ] (]) 23:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Misplaced Pages Org Chart == | |||
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We left a longer piece on the "talk" page of our company`s entry "Hochtief" as the article has to be updated. | |||
Unfortunately we have the impression that there is not much traffic on the talk page. No one seems to feel "responsible" for reviewing and perhaps editing. As there are several things outdated or wrong, we would like to ask for support. We cannot do it on our own as we are the company described. Please help. | |||
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:Hello, if it is likely that you won't get a response on the talk page, there are always ] available for help and also in your time zone. Regarding the article about the organization, you might also get help here; ]. It is recommended that you explain on the relevant talk or help page specifically ''what'' is outdated or wrong, and ''what'' information to add, to help an editor quickly understand what you need.--]<sup style="margin-left:+0.5ex">]</sup> <sub style="margin-left:-5.35ex">]</sub> 14:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Hello! | |||
== references == | |||
Obviously I do not have the stats to apply for administrator in a de facto sense, however I was wondering if there was a lower level role I could apply for. ] (]) 22:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Can someone help me out on how to reference thi sources on wikipedia? | |||
1. Abang Njuosi (ed) (2008) Kom Folktales. Vol. 1 | |||
2. www.wikipedia.org/warren m. robbins | |||
:Like Pending Changes Reviewer, New Page Reviewer or Rollbacker? They can all be ]. Just be sure that you meet the requirements for either of these powers before nominating yourself. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 22:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Here's my article: | |||
:{{ec}} <s>I am sorry, the answer is no, because you are ].</s> | |||
{{cot|This isn't the place for an article's text}} | |||
:There is a list of user permissions at ], however the reason for additional permissions is to help you contribute to the encyclopedia. ] for its own sake is discouraged. ] (]) 22:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
The Afo-A-Kom (Mbang) is the foremost symbol of the Kom people of the North West Region of Cameroon. The carver of this statue is unknown but It is speculated that Afo-A-Kom was carved by the second traditional leader (Foyn/Fon)of the Kom people in the 1920s. In the 1960s, the Afo-A-Kom was stolen from its sacred grove at Laikom which is the seat of the Kom people, where the Foyn resides by one of the princes with the help of some elders and sold to a middle man who later on sold it to an art dealer who took it to the United States of America. The Kom people believe that the Afo-A-Kom possesses mystical powers and that shortly after it got to the US; it started disturbing its new owners by destroying everything around it. Its new owner took it and threw it into the sea but only to get back home and see the Afo-A-Kom. He took it to a New York art gallery where he sold it for circa 15 million CFA, while there; another American Warren M. Robbins, an arts collector saw and recognized it from his visit to Cameroon and raised an alarm. He raised funds together with some Kom elite in the US to purchase from the Manhattan art gallery the bearded icon called Afo-A-Kom, considered sacred by the Kom people which had been taken from the Laikom hill-top village in Cameroon in 1966. Returning the figure, Robbins was welcomed by Nsom Ngwe, the then Fon of the om people, the President of Cameroon, Ahmadou Ahidjo among other dignitaries. | |||
::{{u|NotQualified}}, yes, please read ]. You are already extended confirmed. Administrators may be reluctant to grant optional advanced access levels given the problems identified on your talk page. ] (]) 22:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
During the reception of the statue in Yaounde, President Ahidjo suggested to Fon Nsom Ngwe that Mbang be kept in the National Museum in Yaounde but he replied that if the President can provide enough space in Yaounde for him to go and bring the Kom people to stay with it there, then he would accept the president’s proposal. The president found outr that the Kom and the Afo-A-Kom were inseperable as such he made it possible for it to be taken back to its habitual residence at Laikom.However, it was briefly put on display at the Tourism Office in Yaounde and later on transported by air to the Bamenda. It was then ferried by a delegation of the dignitaries of the region back to Fundong where it was handed back to the Kom people. | |||
It now resides peacefully thereafter at the Laikom palace where it is put on display annually for the Kom people and their friends to view it. | |||
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== Edge Case sourcing question == | |||
: This isn't the place for an article's text, so I've collapsed it. All you need to do is to provide a ], in this case to ]. In your version you had an error message which said "''Cite error: There are <nowiki><ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}}</nowiki> template (see the help page).''", and in that message the words "'' help page ''" were in blue, indicating that they are a ] to specific help on your problem, in this case at ]. I have corrected that error for you, but for further information on referencing you should read ], and you should also read about ]. | |||
: One of the things which you were trying to use as a reference was "''www.wikipedia.org/warren m. robbins''". There are a number of problem with that: | |||
* Firstly for links to Misplaced Pages we don't quote a URL like "''www.wikipedia.org/warren m. robbins''", but instead we give a ] like ], and please note that the titles of Misplaced Pages pages are case-sensitive. | |||
* Secondly wikis (including Misplaced Pages) can not be used as ] sources for references, for reasons given at ]. I have therefore removed that from the references, but included a wikilink to ] when you mentioned him in the text. | |||
: Other editors will look at your article and decide whether it satisfies Misplaced Pages's requirements, particularly for demonstration of ]. I have added some useful links to your user talk page, and one particular one which you should read is ]. --] (]) 16:02, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I have made some stylistic and formatting changes. Given its history, it's probably a notable subject, but it desperately needs more sources. I don't have time to research further.--] (]) 17:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Misplaced Pages operates on a basis where sources are got from ]<nowiki/>s typically and people can't cite the person themself or something they made. | |||
== Referencing errors on ] == | |||
What if a source comments on something that someone said, such as a Twitter post, but didn't include it outright. Am I then allowed to quote what someone posts online to provide context, or does an ] have to explicitly mention the post? | |||
''] help requested.'' | |||
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Sir, 'Swetha Warrier' was my first article and I didn't fully know the technicalities of creating an article. After I saved the page, an error has been reported about a '''reference list''' being '''missing'''. I don't know how to edit it further. Kindly help me out. Thanks a lot. | |||
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Thanks, ] (]) 16:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:The duplication of text was causing the error. I have removed that text which has fixed the problem.--] (]) 16:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
e.g. "Mr. XYZ expressed on Twitter last night his thoughts on the economy..." ] (]) 23:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Longest article titles == | |||
:An independent reliable source noting that comment is what lends significance to it. People say a lot of things; most are not worth recording in an encyclopedia article. ] ] 23:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Yes but if they acknowledge it, but I need it for context, can I use it ] (]) 23:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::@], editors aren't investigative journalists pulling together a story. Editors are summarizing what independent reliable sources have written about a topic. ] ] 23:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I know that but if a source has written on a tweet, and they specifically mention that tweet, but they do not include the tweet, is the tweet a source ] (]) 23:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Ah, I see what you're asking now. It depends on the context, but generally you could also cite the tweet in addition to the reliable source (assuming there is no question that the tweet that you're citing is the one mentioned by the RS). ] ] 23:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Also, thanks for the follow-up questions. Obviously I misunderstood what you asked originally, so I appreciate you clarifying it. ] ] 23:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::thank you for all that you do! how would i cite a tweet? is there a specific wikipedia function or is it the same as other citations? ] (]) 23:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Here you go: ] ] ] 23:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::is there a tutorial on how to browse the wiki on wikipedia, ive no idea where you find all of these things lol ] (]) 23:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::also how did you customise your name? ] (]) 23:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::# I don't know of one (maybe someone does and will mention it?) but after awhile, you learn how to search for things. You can see on my user page how I've collected wikilinks to things I find. (You can always browse ] to get an idea of all the stuff that's out there.) | |||
:::::::::# ] | |||
::::::::: ] ] 23:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::meta question here, where is the code for wikipedia? ive always found things are a bit clunky, especially the lack of concurrent editing ] (]) 00:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::test <span style="color:orange">] (])</span> 00:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::checking if this is right now <span style="color:#F2C86C">]</span> (]) 00:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::it works now ] ] 00:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{od}}If you'd like to experiment with your signature, ], please do so in your sandbox. -- ] (]) 00:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:"where is the code for wikipedia?": I don't understand, but does the article ] help? -- ] (]) 00:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Does WP list the longest titles of articles? If not, how would you go about finding the longest article title? How about this one: | |||
::well wikipedia has to have a source code which people maintain, right? where is that repo ] ] 00:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*] | |||
:::Please see . -- ] (]) 00:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:sorry! ] ] 00:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Hello, @]. For myself, I find your new signature hard to read, as the orange is too light (I don't use a dark mode). ] (]) 12:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::i'll look into it, thanks ] ] 12:38, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::is this better? ] ] 13:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes, much better. ] (]) 15:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
= January 10 = | |||
:Most Bills and Acts have short titles, such as ] and those are the ones we use, per ].--] (]) 16:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Section, image; section, image; section, image....== | |||
:See ]. --] </small>]] 16:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
The layout of ] presents no hindrance to understanding, but is unusually ugly. (For the layout, the editor to blame is me.) Perhaps I'm caffeine-deprived, but I can neither think of a potential solution nor find one within ]. (Alternating left, right, left, right ... would reduce the monotony and save space, but would bring its own problems.) Suggestions? -- ] (]) 00:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:As a reader, I think ] to the left would be easiest to view. Heading identifies the image; image immediately below heading; then text; next heading... ] ] 00:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::But {{U|Schazjmd}}, if I understand this right, it would lead to yet more empty space and a (visually) longer article with more need for scrolling. If so, then no. But I appreciate the suggestion that the captions are pretty much redundant. (They were added back when virtually all the images were in a gallery near the foot of the article, an arrangement that required captions.) I shan't remove the captions till either the larger problem has been resolved or it's clear that there is no good solution to that larger problem; however, I'll keep their removal in mind. (Pinging {{U|NeoGaze}} and {{U|CurryTime7-24}}.) -- ] (]) 00:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I initially took as a model the article on ], but it obviously has fewer pictures and thus the gallery worked better. I think that what was done in the ] is a good option if you don't specially care about picture distribution consistency. Another possibility would to manually modify the size of the paintings to match each paragraph. I tested this myself and it was even worse and more inconsistent, specially in the inauthentic part of the portraits, which has less text and thus you end with almost illegible pictures. ] (]) 12:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: The layout of the Italian Bach page is less monotonous than that of the English Mozart page, ], but it would waste just as much space (unless other measures were also taken). -- ] (]) 12:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I have seen some articles with "mini-galleries" at places in the article. I don't know if that would improve things here. ] (]) 08:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: It's a possibility, ], but it would set up a hurdle for the reader: matching the text to the image. -- ] (]) 12:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:You could try using the <code>|upright= </code> parameter to tweak the sizes of the images. Many would be fine if a bit smaller than the standard thumb. After all, if the reader wants to take a close look, they will click on the picture. ] (]) 11:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Yes, good idea, ]. I'll do that (unless of course somebody beats me to it), remove (or comment out) the captions (after checking that they don't contain information that isn't also in the text), and perhaps do some left/right bouncing. But not until thirty-plus hours from now. -- ] (]) 12:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::I tried this myself and it didn't work very well, specially if you want to strictly adjust the size of a picture to a small portion of text. If you do this, you leave a picture so small that it can even be hard to notice it in the first place, let alone being visible to any degree. I have already removed the redundant captions, but not moved the pictures themselves. ] (]) 18:58, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Not knowing the dimensions and resolution of a reader's device makes it impossible to do what is being attempted here. I recommend displaying images as thumbnails, with an "upright" value of, say, 1.2 for those in portrait orientation. | |||
:::] and ] have helpful warnings about not using the default alignment of "right", especially regarding making text easier to visually scan. | |||
:::A gallery layout may yet prove to be a good solution. ] (]) 20:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
= January 11 = | |||
== I am helping host a global event to update wikipedia contact on behalf of my organization == | |||
== Extended-confirmed rights == | |||
I was interested to see if there was anybody from Misplaced Pages in the New York/New Jersey area | |||
that could be made available on site to help us in case we have questions. | |||
Hello, I just recently had over 500 edits and my account is older than 30 days. I have a few questions: | |||
My contact details are: | |||
Miles Dolphin - 212-526-1833 (email: miles.dolphin@barclayscapital.com) | |||
1) Aside from being able to edit extended confirmed articles and viewing the Misplaced Pages library, are there any other new rights I get from this? If so, what are they? | |||
this would be for June 12th. - Miles <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
2) Is there anything I should be doing differently now that I have this permission? | |||
:Others reading this should also check out ] (which I found from Miles' contribs) which has some more information. --] (]) 17:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
3) Do the amount of edits I have still matter beyond this point? If so, why? | |||
== Randor1980 == | |||
{{archive top|status=User blocked|result=Moving on.--] (]) 18:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)}} | |||
Randor1980 has been trolling many pages. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
{{Archive bottom}} | |||
4) After achieving this, are there any other realistic "goals" related to more rights which Wikipedians go for? If so, what are they? | |||
== Help wanted with a disagreeable article == | |||
4b) Are these goals dependent on how much time and effort we put in to this? If that's the case, could you explain what the different goals are depending on the amount of time people spend on here? | |||
5) Is there anything else I should know or be improving on? | |||
Dear editors: I rescued ] some time ago from the G13 deletion pile, and just now got around to checking to see if I could improve it with reliable sources. Unfortunately, I have a very low tolerance for explicit language. I am looking for someone with a tougher skin to take an interest in this and either pronounce it non-notable or fix it up. I don't want to reject it because I find the references personally distasteful. —] (]) 18:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Thank you all for your time! | |||
:It fails ] and also falls afoul of ]. The only "new" reliable source I could dig up is a about the ''Observer'' article. I'd say throw this fish back; it's just too small. ] (]) 03:17, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 00:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: {{re|Wikieditor662}} Just continue to be a productive editor. Don't worry about any additional user rights. When you get to a point where you might need more, you will probably know (such as rollback for anti-vandalism work, or applying to be an administrator if you find you need those tools, etc). If you want to help out at ] I'm sure that would be appreciated ] (]) 01:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:# As said above, you can answer extended confirmed edit requests if you wish. | |||
:# Should? No. You're free to do as you wish on this volunteer project. | |||
:# You might have to be more specific, but in general, no. Your edit count can be a sign of experience to others, but has no major practical effect. | |||
:# See ]. Keep in mind though that there are no ''goals'' that Wikipedians ''have to'' aim for. You should obtain a right when you actually plan to use it, ]. Some minor user rights are ] and ]. Major user rights include ], ], and, of course, ]. Those major rights require a gigantic amount of experience and trust from the community as well as required time spent to keep those roles; most users never obtain them. | |||
:# Make sure you always have fun here! | |||
:] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 02:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Unclear why link doesn't work in add a citation tool == | |||
== Adding images to a category == | |||
To whom it may concern, | |||
How can a file be added to a category? I would like to add ] to ]. Thanks in advance, X] (]) 19:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
I have tried to use the add a citation tool on the ] page with the following link: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2025/01/10/do-they-know-its-payday/ but it doesn't work. I am unclear why the link isn't being picked up or identified as such. | |||
:The file on Commons is already in Commons ] so any new cat should be added to that category. In fact that category should probably be added to one of the country specific Commons "20th-century writers" categories.--] (]) 19:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Any ideas how to fix or resolve this issue? ] (]) 00:47, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== i changed my password but can't log in == | |||
== Help == | |||
i changed my password, it took me to the login page, and i entered my new password but it said incorrect password. why does it do this? ] (]) 02:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Thanks, I'm just a student and I have to ask or prepare questions about the topic loanwords. The name of the book is read up on contents areas by Build & Grow. Please help, I'm dying | |||
] (]) 19:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)Ricky | |||
:] Are you sure you entered the same password on both instances? I'm pretty sure that's the issue, but if not, it might be a software bug and you may want to raise the issue somewhere in ] (I'm not sure the exact page). ] (] • ]) 02:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I'm sorry you're dying, but I haven't a clue what you are asking for, or why you are asking it on the Misplaced Pages help desk (which is for questions about editing Misplaced Pages. It's possible you can get some help on the ] (Specifically the ] if the question is about loanwords), but if you post it there you'd better be much clearer what you are asking for and what you have done on your homework so far. --] (]) 22:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::i'm certain i entered the same password on both instances. ] (]) 03:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== How can I submit sources to provide edits are correct? == | |||
== Need help removing Reads like an Advertisement alert at top of page == | |||
WikiOriginal-9 Keeps undoing my edits due to (No source, removal of relevant content). How can I submit sources to provide edits are correct? | |||
Thank you, ] (]) 02:36, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Hi, I am editing a page (that is about the man and company I work for) and I am trying to remove the alert at the top of the page. The page title is Adrian Ballinger. It says the page reads like and advertisement and also that it might contain faulty external links. However, I have edited it to remove unnecessary info and links and I have written it as best I can from a neutral point of view. The alert is still at the top of the page. Does it take time for this alert to be removed or am I not editing the Adrian Ballinger page properly? Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you - B <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:<small>(moved from talk) <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 02:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)</small> | |||
:Hello @]. See ], ], and ]. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 03:24, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Marking an achieved request as complete == | |||
:{{to|Alpenren}} People are discouraged from editing articles about subjects with which they are affiliated; this presents a ]. You should propose any further changes as well as a review of the advertising issue on the talk page at ]. ] <small>(] - ])</small> 21:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
There is an extended confirmed request edit ] which I want to mark as {{partly done}}:<!-- Template:EEp --> (and explain why), but I can't reply and the page says not to edit its' contents, which means I can't mark the request as answered. What do I do? ] (]) 05:41, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I have made it read a bit less like an advert, by deleting some puffery, and removing all the invalid references (the ones which just led to a domain, not to an article which mentioned Ballinger). The article is now short of references. If you can add some valid references, to actual articles which mention Ballinger, it may help. ] (]) 22:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Hello, {{U|Alpenren}}. Tags like that are inserted and removed manually, by editors who think it is appropriate to add or remove one. Normally, if you think that a tag is no longer appropriate, you are welcome to remove it; but as Anon126 explained, you are strongly discouraged from editing that article because of your ]. --] (]) 22:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== The twelve visions party. == | |||
I need to send out a message concerning the deletion of TVP page on Misplaced Pages. | |||
Can you help me? | |||
Sincerely | |||
Robert <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:What kind of message are you hoping to send out about ] and to whom? If your question is about contacting a particular user, you can do so at their ].--] (]) 22:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Help Editing a Page== | |||
Hello, wondering if someone can help me. | |||
I've been trying to update a wiki page, and have found a number of different articles relating to the topic and used these as references within the updates. Everytime I update the article I receive a message from a user advising that I have uploading promotional or advertising material and they delete my updates which is extremely frustrating. | |||
The updates I'm making are from third party articles, non of which is trying to promote or advertise on the page but rather provide factual information. | |||
Please advise what I can do to ensure the updates remain on the page. | |||
Many thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
:]: Your additions to ] kind of come off as a catalog entry, which is something Misplaced Pages doesn't do; see ] - ] (]) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::You may also want to look at ] and ]. - ] (]) 23:28, 10 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi, | |||
Thanks for the update. I had quite a few references included all of which were third party. It was a factual overview of the product. The page that was there before I ended it was actual the same format, however the information included was inaccurate so I was trying to fix those. As a result half of the page has been deleted. | |||
Is there anything else I can do? | |||
Thanks again. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:The first thing I would recommend is coming to the understanding that Misplaced Pages is an ''']''' and ] about a company and its products. And then read up about what Misplaced Pages considers a ]. And then when you find sources that meet the criteria, present the content in a ]. -- ] 02:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:] The information I have included in my updates is not used in a promotional context. It is explaining in detail what the page is about. I have researched it and made multiple third party references - all of which meet the Wiki criteria. The references do also show comparisons between other similar services, pointing out the positive and negative aspects. This page originally had inaccurate information and I am just trying to fix that. People should be reading correct information, so I can't understand why someone would be deleting this. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:57, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::When I looked, I saw a Tumblr page being used as a source. Those aren't generally considered reliable. That doesn't speak to the reliability of other sources. In addition, one of the pages I linked you to expressly states why comparisions might be considered a bad thing in encyclopedic context. It may be useful to point out characteristics of a product or thing, but it must be done from an encyclopedic standpoint. - ] (]) 13:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
= April 11 = | |||
==Photo== | |||
] | |||
Please tell me why my uploaded photo ( File:The_Tridels_2014.jpg )is not appearing in my article on The Tridels. All I'am getting is a box with the caption, no photo. I placed the proper link ] even uploaded the photo again with a different title...no joy. Could really use someone's help on this. Help Me <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:You placed a space between the end dot and jpg. Try <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code> which results in the image to the left (yours will appear on the right). - ] (]) 03:15, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
{{clear}} | |||
== I'm a senior interested in using public transportation == | |||
Where can I get DETAILED information about using MetroLink and AMTRAK. I have not used public transportation in 55 years. I'm thinking about going to Camarillo, Ventura, Oxnard and Santa Barbara. And, San Francisco (Bay Area.) I have no idea on what to do first. I live in Culver City. Thanks for any information. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:{{astray}} -- ] 03:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Going beyond that, you may want to start at the official and websites. You should be able to find the most reliable and up to date information about routes, tickets, etc. at these sites. Misplaced Pages does have limited coverage of routes (i.e. ] and ]) which you may also find helpful, though you should rely on the official websites and schedules for the most recent and reliable information. <b>~<i><font color="#07517C">]</font></i><font color="#6FA23B">]</font></b> <small>] ]</small> 03:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Creating Misplaced Pages Page for my college == | |||
Hi this is shiva, | |||
I am working in Thiagaraja school of management in Madurai as a Chair Placement/Corporate Relations.We are a 52 year old Institute and the oldest B school in South India.Currently we are planning to create a Misplaced Pages page for our school which would help us to create more awareness about our brand.So please do help us in creating a wikipedia page for our College. | |||
Regards | |||
Shivaraj <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Hello, Shivaraj. The first thing you should do is read about ], and understand why you should not directly work on an article about your college. The second is to read ], to understand that to "create more awareness about our brand" is something that is absolutely and completely forbidden on Misplaced Pages. | |||
:Then, if you still want to go ahead, you should collect ] (such as major newspapers, or books from reliable publishers) that are ''unconnected with the college'' and say something substantial about the college. If you can find such sources, then the college passes Misplaced Pages's test for 'notability', and you can either request an article at ], or try writing one yourself, and getting it reviewed, by the ] process. --] (]) 08:45, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Edit attempts rejected == | |||
Hi, | |||
I'm marketing Manager at MACH Sarl which has been acquired by Starhome which is now Starhome Mach. All my attempts to update the MACH Sarl page ] to reflect the acquisition and other changes have been rejected. | |||
Please let me know the best way to proceed. | |||
Best regards | |||
Chabha Djouder <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:It's clearly an advertisement you're adding. "Starhome MACH’s combined strength brings...", "STARHOME MACH continues to address and anticipate the challenges...", "they are designed to meet your challenges head on", etc. First you shouldn't really edit the article based on ]. If you do, you must adhere to strict ]. <span style="background:silver;font-family:Kristen ITC;">]</span> 09:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:''Maybe'' add neutral material backed by disinterested, reliable sources. By contrast, here's an example of what you added but was, rightly, then deleted: | |||
::''Starhome MACH’s combined strength brings to market a unified set of solutions that provides one place to manage'' ''your wholesale and retail business,'' ''simplifying the life of the roaming department, whilst driving more business value from the roaming network.'' ''The company has a wide range of network and cloud-based solutions'' ''wrapped with complete business intelligence'' ''and business management.'' | |||
:Even better, don't add any material at all. Instead, make suggestions on the talk page. -- ] (]) 10:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== What to do about sockpuppets' edits? == | |||
(I couldn't find a really suitable noticeboard or village pump section for this question, so please tell me if I'm in the wrong place.) Is there any consensus about edits made by a sockpuppet of a blocked user? Do you revert them, revert unless they add something very good, or does it vary from case to case? There's a persistent sockmaster, ], that uses socks to add low-quality text to some specific articles. I have seen editors remove text for the only reason that it was made by a sock of a banned user, but I'm not sure if that's according to the English Misplaced Pages consensus. ] (]) 10:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Edits of banned users ''made in contravention of their ban'', when discovered, are routinely reverted because banned editors are not allowed to edit by decision of the community. However, there is nothing to stop another editor restoring the material if they consider it good material, but they are then taking responsibility for it themselves and should be prepared to answer any challenge on verifiability etc. Edits made by a banned editor prior to their ban are not reverted merely because the user has been banned, but this ''may'' happen if there is a good reason for doing so (edits are disruptive, dubious verifiability, POV etc), it is then for the reverting editor to justify their revert. Blocked editors are in a somewhat different category. Editors are blocked in order to protect the encyclopaedia from some behaviour of that editor. If you discover a sock of a blocked editor you may be justified in reverting their edits if they are continuing with the same behaviour that led to their block. But then, you would probably be justified in reverting the edits even if you did not know it was a sock; it depends on the material. You would probably be better off taking the issue to the blocking admin and letting them deal with it. ''']]''' 13:33, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Slight question to determine meaning: Are we talking about ] or a topic or global ]? - ] (]) 21:32, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::The user in question is blocked. The user name is not on ], nor is there anything on the user page or user talk that says that he or she is banned. ] (]) 11:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Is there a FAQ project for the WP:RD? == | |||
Hello everybody, | |||
I noticed the FAQ button on the ''Help'' desk. Is there any effort to archive frequently asked ''Reference desk'' questions, other than the automatic archives, which collect all questions? | |||
(I'm not suggesting to replace the "Search RD archives" button, just to give another means of accessing the topics.) | |||
If not, would it be a WP:BADIDEA, in the sense that it would violate one of the WP:rules? | |||
If it's ''not'' a bad idea, what would the WP veterans think about it? Should it go into a certain namespace? For example, would User:One.Ouch.Zero/RDFAQ be appropriate for an index, or would it imply too much WP:OWNership? | |||
- '''''¡Ouch!''''' (<sup>]</sup> / <sub>]</sub>) 10:59, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It seems ] would be a better place to discuss this. You can also search for FAQ there. It shows there are old unmaintained pages at ] and ]. ] is a general FAQ for Misplaced Pages and not associated with the help desk. {{tl|Help pages header}} is also transcluded on ]. ] (]) 12:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
<small>BTFW, I totally forgot about the "Wikipedia_talk" namespace. Bummer.</small> | |||
Wow, thanks, that's about what I wanted to start. <small>WP:ICANTBELIEVETHATFAQWASDISCONTINUED5YEARSAGO.</small> - '''''¡Ouch!''''' (<sup>]</sup> / <sub>]</sub>) 12:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Cape Elise == | |||
On behalf of the managers of the M/V Cape Elise, Empire Bulkers Limited: | |||
Reference is made to your section concerning very large bulk carriers (Capes) and the fact that you have published a digital picture with respect to the vessel under our management “Cape Elise” and certain comments concerning necessary repairs carried out, following an unfortunate marine incident. We consider that these actions cause unnecessary, negative publicity and should be avoided. | |||
As Managers of the vessel in question, we kindly ask you to remove the said picture and the comments made completely. Should you wish to upload a different picture of the vessel in question and certain related comments, please send us your proposal for signing it off. For future reference, please avoid uploading any information and/or documentation and/or digital content of any nature related with the vessels under our management without our express written consent. | |||
Please be guided accordingly. Many thanks. | |||
Our rights are reserved. | |||
] (]) 11:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
: Presumably relates to the article: ]. --] (]) 11:43, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Firstly, from the tone of your question I advise you to read ]. Having pointed that out, my opinion is that the picture adds little of value to the article, as it's not relevant to the article about the size of ships and there are other pictures demonstrating size. I have therefore ] and removed it with this edit . ] (]) 12:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I don't think this is the place to make a decision over that and have restored the picture. ''']]''' 12:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:(after edit conflict) Your request has a very legalistic tone. That's not what we do on this help desk. The purpose of Misplaced Pages is to create an encyclopaedia on all topics. Please explain how your proposed edit helps fulfil that goal. Also, we do not require, nor do we seek, your "sign off" for any aspect of our articles. ''']]''' 12:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::And no, your "rights are not reserved". As per the notifications in the editing frames, when you pressed "submit" you agreed to release your statement under the ]. We do not require and will not ask for your consent.-- ] 13:59, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, you may manage the organization, but the image was taken ''by someone'' who uploaded the image by themselves. So, first of all it is not a copyright violation, and does not require consent. You have the right to ask for an image to be removed only if ''someone copies'' an image ''you'' own or have taken, or if someone took your photograph and uploaded it without consent.<p>Regarding "publicity", there is nothing positive or negative here on Misplaced Pages. Any information is added to contribute to thee overall content of the article. And definitely, no one is going to consider the incident as something "negative", it is just a piece of information. --]<sup style="margin-left:+0.5ex">]</sup> <sub style="margin-left:-5.35ex">]</sub> 18:01, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::(after ec) I think the IP is more likely reserving their rights to take legal action elsewhere over the matter rather than trying to circumvent the CC licence. Of course, that will not help them here either. Should they explicitly (or even implicitly) make such a statement then they can no longer be allowed to take part in community discussions per the ] policy. ''']]''' 18:04, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
==new started shoe company== | |||
The article that I am writing is about a new started shoe company. I wrote the article and sent it for a review and it got declined because of the references. My references were from their website since all of their references are in different magazines and not online. So my question is: How do I add those print articles as references in my article? Is it possible? | |||
] (]) 12:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:To demonstrate notability per ], references must be from reliable third party sources, see ]. The company's website is only good for confirming basic, non-controversial facts. I should also add that a new company is very unlikely to have received the significant third party coverage required to meet the notability guidelines.--] (]) 12:33, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Referencing errors on ] == | |||
''] help requested.'' | |||
<!-- Type your question below this line. --> | |||
I went in to correct a referencing error that I introduced but ended up screwing up other things. Can you help with this? | |||
<!-- Type your question above this line. --> | |||
Thanks, ] (]) 12:31, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:When you enter a URL in the {{tlx|cite web}} template, it has to have an appropriate prefix, like <code>http://</code> or <code>https://</code>. You'd missed these out which was why the refs were showing oddly. I've also combined the multiple references to the same source into a single citation (see the page's edit history for the coding)<s>, although I have my doubts as to whether that source meets ].</s><small>probably okay, actually</small>. ] ]] 12:51, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Percy Julian == | |||
Wiki | |||
Someone has placed inappropriate verbiage into the " early life" section of chemist Percy Julian's bio. Mr. Julian is being honored today with a Google doodle -please correct as soon as possible. The language states Julian ate ass at an early age. ] (]) 14:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:The vandal has been blocked and I've filed a request at ]. Thanks for your help. ]<sup>x</sup>] 14:53, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:And next time you see something like that, revert it by going into the page's history page, finding the revision you want to revert, going to it by clicking "prev", and clicking on "undo" (you can also click "undo" on the history page if you already know which revision it is). ] (]) 14:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Sónia Matias == | |||
Dear Misplaced Pages, | |||
In Portugal when you look for the name "Sónia Matias" you only end up to a soccer player, but there is a female much more famous and known in Portugal that you misses out on. | |||
She also is Sónia Matias, but she´s well known because de became the first female becoming professional in are arte of "cavaleira de toureio" wich in Inglish dosen´t exist, but it´s a kind of bull fight between the horse rider and the bull in the arena. Very famous in Spain, the only Country that in fact kills the bull afterwords. | |||
But she is very famous in Portugal, professional artist, and much more well known the the soccer player Sónia Matias, howcame she dosen´t have no article ou Misplaced Pages? | |||
For any information look at facebook "Sónia Matias" | |||
Thank You | |||
Nuno Guedes. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
] | |||
:She is briefly mentioned in ]. Misplaced Pages is the 💕 that anyone can edit. Articles are written by volunteers and noone has written an article about her yet but you could. This help desk is for the English Misplaced Pages and I don't know Portuguese but it appears you can request an article at ], or write a suggested article at ]. ] is the requirement for the English Misplaced Pages but Portuguese may be different. Misplaced Pages languages can have different policies and I don't know the Portuguese Misplaced Pages but you are probably also allowed to create an article directly if you make an account. It's free and easy. ] (]) 15:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I found we have a photo of her at ], but it's only used in a low resolution gallery in the Dutch article ]. ] (]) 16:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== PERCY JULIAN: Not Included in Misplaced Pages Inventor List == | |||
PERCY JULIAN: Google Doodle salutes pioneering chemist as a man utterly in his elements' – Not Included in Misplaced Pages Inventor List | |||
It was refreshing to read about Percy Julian, his accomplishments and contributions to the American Science and Medical fields; and to the world. | |||
The unfortunate reminder about your story, is the constant and continuous shroud of obscurity and anonymity that Black inventors are kept under. | |||
How many White, Asian, Latino, European, tec. Children will go to Misplaced Pages ] to search for inventors, and find no Black inventors listed, not even the late Percy Julian will appear on that list, you have to put in “Black Inventor, and how many people who are Not Black are going to do that: | |||
* Benjamin Banneker – Farmer’s Almanac | |||
* Elijah McCoy – The real McCoy | |||
* Charles Drew – Blood Plasma | |||
* Madam C. J. Walker – First Woman self-made millionaire, any race | |||
* George Washington Carver – Everything Peanut & Soybean | |||
* Garret Morgan – Traffic Lights | |||
And many others! | |||
Let’s stop excluding these Great Americans from their place in history with the rest of the Great American Inventors… | |||
Yvette <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:] - this is the encyclopedia anyone can edit.--] (]) 17:29, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Are you looking for ]? At least, that is where ] redirects to. ''']]''' 17:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::{{Done}} ] to ].--] (]) 17:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Tim Green == | |||
The page Tim Green does not look like it has been Edited right. ] <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: I think you'll need to be a bit more specific with what you think is wrong. You can make suggestions at ]. --] (]) 19:23, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
: ... or are you talking about the problem which another editor cured in {{diff2|603782534|this edit}}? --] (]) 19:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Photo Upload Problems == | |||
Hello, I am trying to upload a photo of Joey Moi to his page. I am his business manager and i would like his wikipedia page to contain images. I joined so that i could upload but was told that I cannot upload the photo until i have 10 edits and four days for verification. I don't have a page that i can make 10 edits to so i'm hoping you'd be able to upload the photo to his page for me or somehow help me get this photo on his page. Thanks | |||
Cole <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:You can ] (a central media repository that Misplaced Pages uses) without having to wait for autoconfirmation (the 4 days/10 edits requirement). You can log in with the same username and password you created on Misplaced Pages. ] <small>(] - ])</small> 20:05, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Cannot Log In But== | |||
I've been a contributor for over 8 years and been made a Review Editor. Though my user page is there, '''I cannot log in''' using Noles1984. There seems to be no way around it. I just need help logging in. This is strange. I maintain several domains and could put up a very temp email address then delete once I get help. ] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:What message are you getting? Please check your edit history and verify that your account has not been compromised (your last edit listed is on 23 January). If you have forgotten your password and you have not registered an e-mail address (which you don't appear to have done) then there is not a lot that can be done unless you have taken the precaution of embedding a ] on your user page, which also seems not to have been done. Sorry. ''']]''' 21:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Is that true == | |||
Dear Sir, | |||
I have received an email showing that I won a Lottery held on 15 Mar. 2014 | |||
by SHELL PETROLEUM in Collarboration with shell Petroleum Development Company(SPDC) | |||
and BRITISH AMERICAN TOBACCO COMPANY. | |||
Where I found at bottom of the email a photo showing your company name and some of | |||
admin staff. | |||
I will be greatful to receive your kind confirmation to clarify if that event was true. | |||
Great regards . | |||
Senior Architect | |||
<personal info redacted> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::This is English Misplaced Pages, and we're in no way affiliated to BAT or Shell Oil - nor are they affiliated with each other, and as far as I know neither company runs lotteries. In any case - if you don't remember entering a lottery, you haven't won anything in one. The email is almost certainly a hoax, to try to get you to disclose banking information that can be used against you. Delete the email, and certainly don't reply to its reply address or follow any instructions in it. ] (]) 21:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It's definitely a ]. A Google search showed many examples with those alleged companies. If you reply to the scammers they will try to trick you into paying an advance fee to get your non-existing prize. ] (]) 23:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== My post just got delete?? == | |||
I made a serious post and somebody did just delete it? How do i get all the things back? Becuase it took a long time to make it all. And i really don't understand why it was taking down? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:No, ] shows that what you wrote above was the first edit by Morten Darving Schlüter in English-language Misplaced Pages. -- ] (]) 23:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:(edit conflict) This was the first saved edit by your account. The account was created 8 minutes before your post. If this is about an edit made with another account or without logging in then we can only comment if you say which edit or page it was. I see you also posted to ] but ] has not deleted anything non-trivial in the last month so I'm puzzled. ] (]) 23:38, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::The requirements for having an article are ] and that the content be presented ]. If your work ]. In the future it would probably be best to utilize the ] where an experienced editor can help guide you to creating something that will meet the basic article requirements and not immediately trigger deletion. -- ] 23:48, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::The account has no deleted edits and I don't know whether the post is about a page creation or something else. ] (]) 00:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Problem with Misplaced Pages:Emailing users == | |||
Previously it worked fine - last time I'd used it in late March. | |||
I'd discovered a problem after a letter I sent, I do not received a copy to my e-mail | |||
In recent days, I'd made several checks with different wiki-users' help. | |||
Result: my messegase not received, including and a copy to my e-mail. | |||
Their messeges I do receive, so something not working for me. | |||
''Restore all default settings (in all sections)'' did not help, the result - the same . | |||
What else can I do? | |||
Thank you,--] (]) 23:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It works for me. Do you get a screen saying "Your e-mail message has been sent"? If "Email me a copy of my message" was selected on the mail form then the copy may have been blocked by a spam filter somewhere, possibly by your mail provider or mail program. It's also possible that the users you tested it with got it blocked by spam filters. Try mailing me with a post saying "Just a test" and nothing else. I just tried that on myself without problems. The more content there is, the bigger risk there may be that a spam filter dislikes something. I have always received Misplaced Pages mail within seconds when I tested it. ] (]) 23:58, 11 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: Yes, I get a screen saying "Your e-mail message has been sent" after all my attempt. Both me & my helpers (say me that they) have checked appropriate spam/junk folder as well. As I wrote above I've used this mail channel without problems till ~ end of March, 2014. | |||
:: I send you "Just a test" message just now. Thanks, --] (]) 22:24, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::* "Your e-mail message has been sent. | |||
::* You can notify users that you have e-mailed them by leaving them a talk page message. The {{You've got mail}} template is available for this purpose. | |||
::* Return to User:PrimeHunter." | |||
:: --] (]) 22:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::I have received two mails from you, the first saying ''"Just a test" from Igor'' at 22:22, the second saying ''No.2 eith "Just a test" subject from Igorp_lj'' at 22:23. ] (]) 22:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::: Good news for e-wiki! (my ru-wiki correspondens haven't received any my mail) | |||
:::: So only question what remains for e-wiki - why I haven't received a copy to my mail? | |||
:::: Thanks, --] (]) 23:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::Can you try another email service, for example at ]? ru-wiki works for me. I sent a mail to my secondary account at ], and asked for a copy. The mail and the copy both arrived within seconds. The accounts have the same email address. ] (]) 23:49, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::: As I understand, should change email in my profile, to use another mail provider, what I do not really want at the moment (my global wiki account used the same email address). | |||
:::::: I'd already sent you message from you ru-wiki page: | |||
::::::* "Ваше электронное сообщение отправлено. Возврат к странице Участник:PrimeHunter2. | |||
:::::: --] (]) 10:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I have received "tedt from ru-wiki". My own email program (Windows Mail in Windows Vista) moved it to a spam folder. This doesn't usually happen for my Misplaced Pages mail. I don't know what triggered the filter. ] (]) 11:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
= April 12 = | |||
== Editing a page == | |||
Hi | |||
I was trying to edit Peter Sellers page. There was a movie missing in the filmography table. I added (The Mouse that Roared) but I believe I missed things up. This is my first time, so I apologize. | |||
Please help get the page in the right shape, with the movie I added. | |||
Thank you | |||
Faizlo <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Your edits have been reverted. ] is only for works where he received significant awards or nominations. Your edit only said "Nominated". What was it nominated for? ] is a longer list and includes the film. ] (]) 00:41, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== John Brown (news anchor) == | |||
This is actually an entry about me, but it appears to be broken. I have used it on my web sites to direct people to my biography on Misplaced Pages. Anybody know what happened to the lin? | |||
Thanks, | |||
John Brown <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:05, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:It's been . <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 01:18, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Or in more detail: on 17 February 2014, "GiantSnowman" (]) deleted the article "]", stating "Expired ], concern was: zero evidence for notability. His book are each in less than 60 libraries." The deletion had been proposed by DGG (]). -- ] (]) 01:21, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:To expand further on what others have said, for somebody who may not be familiar with how Misplaced Pages works: Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not a directory. It does not list every subject (person, company, record etc) that exists, only those which have already been written about in reliable sources (which is what we mean by "notable" in the special Misplaced Pages sense). It is possible that you have been written about in this way and therefore we could have an article about you, but according to the comment above the deleted article did not establish this. --] (]) 08:53, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Edit summaries question == | |||
{{IPuser|24.3.8.179}} makes edits with uninformative edit summaries such as "edit" and "improve". Twice I've posted on their talk page asking them to make more informative edit summaries, and referred them to ], but this seems to have had no effect. Recently I reverted a few of these edits but it occurs to me now that this was not the most appropriate action, since the edits were made in good faith. I'm just not sure how else to get the point across. Any suggestions? ] (]) 02:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Ignore it. It's an IP, so you don't even know if the same person is making all the edits. Also, if they haven't listed to your first 2 posts, what good would a third or fourth do? It's really just a minor issue. <span style="background:silver;font-family:Kristen ITC;">]</span> 02:44, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Nissan maxima 1997 == | |||
what is the little flashing thing under the seet that has a fuse it is not for the power seats <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:55, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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== Linking within an article does not work on iPhone devices == | |||
Hi, | |||
I've linked to a section within the same article by using the . It was actually a section within a section (so the ===Heading===). I found that this works when I am using a PC. However, when I use my iPhone the link doesn't do anything. So I made the link the beginning of the section (so the ==Heading==). I find that when I do this, the page does go down to the section (but you can't tell which section because all sections are collapsed). If I then go back to the link and click it, it then goes to the section and opens it up. Is there better syntax to use to avoid these issues. Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:34, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:The difference is that mobile devices use the mobile version of Misplaced Pages (https://en.m.wikipedia.org). You could probably force your mobile to use the standard version but not really recommended. When I tried a section link in sandbox I found that the I had to click the link twice for both the scenarios you give. The first time jumped to the heading and the second time (have to scroll back up if necessary) openened the section. I don't know whether this is considered a bug or a desirable feature, but you could try reporting it at . ''']]''' 12:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:By the way, I get exactly the same behaviour on a PC as a mobile device when using the mobile version on a PC. That means you can check the mobile page behaviour/look without leaving your PC. ''']]''' 12:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Conflicting references == | |||
I have a specific interest in how low level financial scams are operated and supported. | |||
One of the common features seems to be to establish a false reputation by getting a low level news organisation to misquote a fact either deliberately, or by not correcting editorial, and then reference the hell out of it to other news organisations until it becomes real. As a example company x is approved by the FSA in the UK, person Y is also the owner of a major foreign organisation, Bank Z is a major backer behind this company. These "facts" then get repeated by the multiple wordress blogs set up to enable these scams and eventually get referenced into a wikipedia article which is the first site that comes up when the person being scammed is searching for the company as they sit in a hotel seminar. | |||
My question is about how do wikipedia editors rate references. Clearly they are not all equal. What if they conflict ? I can contact the UK FSA and ask if company A is approved but Misplaced Pages wont accept that information without a reference. Since most articles are directly or indirectly paid for most papers wont issue corrections. If I put a message on my blog saying that company A is not FSA approved is any editor going to consider that over 16 blogs and two articles that say it is ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:We base our content upon ], and ]. -- ] 12:29, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:We have a ] for getting advice on the reliabiltiy of specific sources. ''']]''' 12:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Such is the theory, and to some degree it is practiced that way, but our discipline is seldom better than that of the news sources we cite. Perhaps someone should make a concerted effort to check such things with the official websites of the approving authorities. ] (]) 12:50, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Webpage == | |||
Can you tell me how to set up a web page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:{{to|Frtwat73}} | |||
:] Have you tried the ] of Misplaced Pages's ]? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using ]. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: <span class="plainlinks"></span>. I hope this helps.{{z38}}<!-- Template:RD2 --> | |||
:But since we're here, I personally recommend ] to start. ] <small>(] - ])</small> 17:15, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:And if you are talking about a Misplaced Pages article, please look at ]. Just note that we are an encyclopedia and not a webhost if that was your aim. - ] (]) 18:09, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Finding all the news in a particular month and year == | |||
I read a post | |||
about find news in a particular month and year. But I can't decipher the form. Is this possible and how exactly? | |||
] (]) 17:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Just type it into the search box. For example, to find news from last month, type in ''March 2014''. This leads to an article with major events. ] <small>(] - ])</small> 18:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== 'Autobiography' == | |||
I want to start a page about myself. This is only because of individuals who have wikipedia pages, that have inaccurate, libelous and unlawful information relative to myself. Editing those pages is one option. Creating my own is an easier, workable alternative. It is easy to understand and then respect wikipedia's rules as clearly stated. My FINDINGS stem from documentary evidence, and I see no point in any claims stemming from anything else. | |||
I am one of the first human beings subjected to the rare cybernetic process, the deliberation of the human body, by another individual's means. In encyclopedic, incidental terms, this includes the need to rectify probably deviant falsehood published on this website. The presentation of the uniqueness of the circumstance elsewhere, is provided for. | |||
My circumstance consists of evidence on a par with the presented. I consider an encyclopedic inclusion inevitable. I am a VICTIM of opinion as fact, and I have not tried to create a page about myself. I would like step-by-step advice on how to proceed.] (]) 17:55, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:{{to|Graeme John Hunter Ford}} Writing an ] is highly discouraged. If you have a concern about information about you in an article, you can raise it on the associated talk page (click the "Talk" tab at the top.) ] <small>(] - ])</small> 18:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Look particularly at the section ]. --] (]) 10:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Edit .js page == | |||
I want to add a module to my js page: | |||
] | |||
However, when I click edit, I briefly see the contents (with line numbers added) then it disappears. | |||
Am I missing something?--]] 19:12, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Do you use ] gadget? ]_] 19:45, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Yes. Do I need to remove it or turn it off?--]] 20:09, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Turning it off helped, thanks.--]] 20:12, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Launching Misplaced Pages Page about Someone == | |||
How should I start or publish wikipedia page about someone? For instance, I would want to get my own wikipedia page describing details/ biography about me. Whom should I contact? | |||
Thanks for your time and hope to get replied. Regards! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:08, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:See ]. If your accomplishments are not significantly covered by independent, ], your time will be wasted, and the article deleted. If they are, you needn't contact anyone, though the ] will be helpful for your first time. ] ] 20:47, ], ] (UTC) | |||
:Also, we do not recommend writing autobiographies. ''']]''' 23:34, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I'd thought about saying that, but there's not much harm in it, ''unless'' the autobiographer tries to ] the article and flatter themselves. Still yes, there's a ] page to consider. ] ] 05:20, ], ] (UTC) | |||
::: The guidance, for the benefit of the OP, is at ]. --] (]) 05:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks. Looking that over, it seems that if one avoids all three fundamental problems while writing an autobiography, it should be fine. Same as drunk driving. It's only bad if you hurt someone. Often not the case, but there ''is'' a tendency. Same here, Raaboi. You may not think you're as biased as you are. So be careful, if you insist on driving yourself. ] ] 06:06, ], ] (UTC) | |||
== Are acrostics subject to the same rules as straight text? == | |||
For instance, if the first letter of four paragraphs spelled out "evil" in a priest's bio, or "liar" in a politician's, could that be construed as a POV, OR or BLP fail, and would that be valid grounds for rewording, assuming the paragraphs are otherwise better written as is? Or are hidden messages (intentional or not) beyond the scope? ] ] 20:43, ], ] (UTC) | |||
:Oh, absolutely (though I wouldn't use OR in relation as not quite the right fit, but NPOV and BLP are certainly relevant, as might be hidden/sneaky vandalism, and maybe ]). That hidden message is information made part of the article, a personal ] inserted and in a sub rosa way. A secondary wag the tail concern is that obviously the text had to be written for the purpose of shoehorning that hidden message, so whatever surrounding text was used to spell out the midden message was not fashioned to be the best text for the topic, but to meet the hidden agenda. Anyway, my advice is to remove with extreme prejudice and inform the user not to engage in such theatrics again.--] (]) 22:06, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for the input. To be clear, there is no user to warn or revert. I'd have linked to the article, otherwise. Just something I was wondering. But yeah, if I come across it, I'll remember this. ] ] 23:20, ], ] (UTC) | |||
:If I happened to notice such an acrostic, I would not draw attention to it. I would just find some reason to change one of the constituent words, so as to spoil it. ] (]) 11:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Editor using WP to write an essay on an article talk page == | |||
While revising the article ] I noticed that there is a long essay on the article talk page, seemingly irrelevant to any attempt to improve the article, and on examination I see that this is the editor's only contribution to WP, he has worked on this essay, and nothing else, revising it almost every day since August 2012. He doesn't make any effort to put any of this information, whatever it is, I haven't read it, into the article and it doesn't seem to be bothering anyone but that isn't what article talk pages are for. I wondered if I should report it to someone, but I wouldn't know who to report it to, and then I wondered if that would be mean because he seems to be happy writing this essay and it doesn't appear to bother anyone, in fact it seems unlikely that anyone pays any attention to it. So I thought I would come here and ask what the help desk thought. Thanks ] (]) 21:43, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:{{to|Smeat75}} I've collapsed the content ({{tlx|collapse top}}/{{tlx|collapse bottom}}) and left a note. I think that's appropriate for now. ] <small>(] - ])</small> 22:27, 12 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks!] (]) 01:11, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
= April 13 = | |||
== Where can we get assistance with formatting tables? == | |||
Another editor and I are discussing some table formatting at ], and I have no idea where to start. We want to add another column but I'm afraid of screwing it up. Is there a noticeboard specific for formatting with Wikimarkup? ] (]) 03:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:] and ]. but coding for tables is absolutely non user friendly. the best bet is to create a sandbox page do your testing there. you can always "undo". -- ] 04:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Radical, thank you so much. ] (]) 06:37, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Abandoned Articles == | |||
I've done a reasonable search for the answer to this question, but I seem to have either missed it, or one doesn't exist. Upon taking a look at a particular article, it seems to me some work is needed. In general, better organization and more detail could be added to make the article better. It also may contain information that should probably not be included or at least modified to more accurately reflect facts. | |||
I would like to consult with the person who administers the page, but I don't see that contact reflected anywhere. | |||
The article just seems to be abandoned. | |||
Any suggestions? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: There isn't an individual "person who administers the page"; the editors who have previously contributed to the page are listed on the article's "]" tab. If you have proposed changes, you can make them yourself, ensuring that you provide a meaningful ] and that you support any new material with ] to published ]. If you are not confident in doing that, you can make suggestions at the article's talk page, again providing supporting information to justify your suggestions. --] (]) 04:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Since David provided links for everything else except to explain what a talk page is, it's at ]. :) And also, if you told us the name of the article, those of us who patrol this help desk could take a quick look at it and make at least some basic edits to clean up the more glaring errors. <span style="font-family:monospace;">]</span>|] 12:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Reproducing a French Misplaced Pages diagram == | |||
Anyone know of a way, short of importing ] (which does not appear to have a direct English equivalent), to reproduce the diagram seen at ]? I thought {{tl|Clade}} might be a way but I don't see how to use it to get the same result.--] (]) 04:58, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:{{tl|Clade}} does something like the diagram in the French article. But | |||
:#It has the branches going upwards and downwards, rather than horizontally and downwards (personally, I prefer this). | |||
:#It is annoyingly hard to use – though a cladogram with only four leaves should not be too hard. I once started using it, and gave up a fraction of the way through, my results are . | |||
: ] (]) 06:06, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:{{to|Fuhghettaboutit}} I think this is right based on the code on the French Misplaced Pages article and a non-expert reading of the abstract of the reference. | |||
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:] <small>(] - ])</small> 06:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
==creating a new page== | |||
how to create a new wikipedia page <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:02, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: You need to read ], and TRPoD had added some other useful links to your user talk page. --] (]) 05:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== OBJECTION FOR PUTTING US IN SHUDRA VARNA == | |||
I just want to notify you about your article regarding kushwaha community In classification part of your wikipedia page you have written that we come under shudra varna.But on the articles present on net and also on govt of india website http://www.ncbc.nic.in/Home.aspx go to CENTRAL LIST OF OBC'S .We are under OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES But the people who come under Shudra varna are schedule tribes and schedule castes refer to govt of india website http://ncsc.nic.in/. Now as it is written that we are shudra in wikipedia now we can use this claim and put a public interest litigation in SUPREME COURT OF INDIA to consider us as SCHEDULE TRIBES and we should get the benefits of reservation in schedule tribes.Thanking you and requesting you to do some HOME WORK while putting things on INTERNET as it is being viewed by billion's of people. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:50, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I'm not quite sure what you mean, but errors are to be expected on Misplaced Pages, as a community-maintained encyclopedia. But anyway, you can ]. Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for your contribution to Misplaced Pages. <span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black">]</span> <small><nowiki>] ]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 08:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I'd advise consulting ] about this, castes can often be a highly contentious topic. ] (]) 09:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I doubt very much that you have any hope of succeeding in litigation based on information found in Misplaced Pages. We do not even treat our articles as being ] ourselves. Our articles are not any kind of official document in any country, including India. By the way, I think it is astonishing that people can be classified as "other backward classes" in the modern world. ''']]''' 12:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::"]es" is actually formal government classification. the movement which brought "hadicapable" to the US has not yet gained a foothold in India. -- ] 13:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== wikipedia not finding subject == | |||
I am having trouble searching for Allesandro del Piero. The search engine doesn't list him as a result. I managed to find him by accessing the Juventus site however. | |||
I thought there may be a glitch. | |||
Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:53, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Try ]. Cheers. ] (]) 08:58, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:A redirect from ] to ] has existed since 2005, so I don't understand how the search could have failed. ] (]) 09:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
It's just a spelling error; original query spelt Alessandro as A'''ll'''esandro. ] (]) 09:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:] starts with big colored letters saying "Did you mean: ". It correctly guessed what the poster wanted and gave a helpful message with a new search link leading directly to the article, but the poster apparently overlooked or ignored it. ] (]) 11:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== How to get listed on Misplaced Pages? == | |||
Hello, My name is Sagar Patil. I am a Freelance Music Composer. | |||
I want to inquire about how to get myself listed on wikipedia? | |||
Waiting for the comments. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:No one gets "listed" on Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of topics that meet our ] guidelines. If you are notable according to the guidelines then an article can be written about you. You should not write that article because you have a conflict of interest, see ] for information. You can request an article be written at ]. ] ] 14:22, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::{{U|Slykesagar}}: To explain the major point in GB fan's reply: "notability" means that you have already been the subject of in-depth coverage in reliable sources, independent of you. If a couple of major newspapers, or web sites with a reputation for reliable editing, have written articles about you (not just listings or reprinting press releases) then Misplaced Pages can have an article about you. If that hasn't yet happened, then it can't. <small>I corrected a link in GB fan's posting</small>--] (]) 14:43, 13 April 2014 (UTC) |
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Hudson Bay
What did I do wrong with the {{sfn}} at Hudson Bay? It won't link to the actual book listing. It's references 16 and 21. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 04:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather: It was just a typo. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching it. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 08:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
2025 in country music
At 2025 in country music, does anyone know why there are songs under "Top new album releases"? --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- They mostly seem to have been added by IP 2603:8000:9401:B55:2407:F6EC:241A:CA3E and another IP in the same range. IP's often change, so these are quite likely to be the same person. There's probably no point in posting on the IP's user talk page for that reason.
- I suggest raising the issue on Talk:2025 in country music, and get consensus for removing the songs from that table (perhaps moving them to another table?) You might also want to put a note on WT:COUNTRYMUSIC, pointing to the discussion you create.
- Or else you can be WP:BOLD and rearrange the article yourself. ColinFine (talk) 15:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- The CODE is in the correct section, the SONGS are in the wrong section. I do not have the skill set to fix this without removing the tunes in their entirety. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed by closing the table. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed by closing the table. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- The CODE is in the correct section, the SONGS are in the wrong section. I do not have the skill set to fix this without removing the tunes in their entirety. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Question about reusing references and reliable sources
As my account is 3 days old, I would like someone to move this to the help desk itself:
Hi. I’ve inputted 2 claims into an article supported by the same source, and I’ve managed to cite the first claim but wanted to use the same citation on the second claim and I have problems with that. How do I use an existing citation on a different part of the article? Please use an example, because I understood I need to use names, but I am failing to actually use the names (I am not sure how to). Also, is The Economic Times a WP:RS? Waited2seconds (talk) 14:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Waited2seconds: the following source code:
- Some wild assertion.<ref name="foo">the really great reference</ref> Another wild assertion.<ref name="foo"/>
- results in:
- Some wild assertion. Another wild assertion.
- since I do not use the visual editor, I hope you can use the source editor. -Arch dude (talk) 14:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I looked up The Economic Times at WP:RSN and found Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive 421#The Economic Times. As the discussion was inconclusive, I suggest using the source with caution, see WP:CONTEXTMATTERS. TSventon (talk) 14:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help. Helped very much. Couldn’t reply before my account became autoconfirmed Waited2seconds (talk) 17:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I looked up The Economic Times at WP:RSN and found Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive 421#The Economic Times. As the discussion was inconclusive, I suggest using the source with caution, see WP:CONTEXTMATTERS. TSventon (talk) 14:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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Gaelic speakers/reader
Hi Folks, does anybody know any regular gealic speakers on Misplaced Pages who can translate loch names on a regular basis. Thanks. scope_creep 18:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Most of the editors in Category:User gd-5 don't seem to have edited recently, but in Category:user gd-4 @SaoiDunNeachdain seems to be current, while @Akerbeltz says they've moved to gd-wiki, but I see they've edited here within the last two months. Whether either of these would be willing is another matter, of course. ColinFine (talk) 18:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Are there any particular lochs that you have in mind? I have a book of Scottish place names, and know some online sources, which might help. (Incidentally, the name of the language is Gaelic.) AndrewWTaylor (talk) 21:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @AndrewWTaylor: This one Loch a' Bhaid-luachraich. scope_creep 22:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: I'm happy to answer questions, just put them on my Talk page, just not doing that much in mainspace any more. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Scope creep Interestingly, Google translate, when prompted that this is in the Irish language, gives the English translation as "Loch a'Baid-luachraich" whereas Microsoft's equivalent (via Bing search) says it is "the lake of the rush". Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: I'm happy to answer questions, just put them on my Talk page, just not doing that much in mainspace any more. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @AndrewWTaylor: This one Loch a' Bhaid-luachraich. scope_creep 22:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
It's the 'loch of the clump of rushes'; luachair 'rush(es)', genitive luachrach, bad 'clump, cluster', genitive baid, bad luachrach 'a clump of rushes' and then some more genitive marking piled on tope. In proper Gaelic spelling it would be loch a' bhaid luachrach (never trust machine translation when it comes to Gaelic word spacing... in fact, better not trust it at all when it comes to small languages!) Akerbeltz (talk) 17:57, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Akerbeltz: I got as far as the rushes from the book but not much further. Could I call on you for further Gaelic translations at the odd moment? I see your in category that ColinFine mentioned above and was planning to go round each editor entry in turn to try and find somebody. If possible could you translate "Loch Mhic' Ille Riabhaich"? Thanks. scope_creep 12:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Akerbeltz: And this: "Càrn bad na h-Achlaise". Something to do with an armpit or oxters? scope_creep 17:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes but let's move this to my talk page. Akerbeltz (talk) 17:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Merge conflicts - is there something I am missing?
I see that it has a diffing system, but on the merge conflict page, is it really asking me to open a new tab, switch both to code view and hand merge manually myself? The edit conflict help page states "Both the source code editor and the visual editor use CVS-style edit-conflict merging, based on the diff3 utility.", but I can't really find merge tools on the merge page. Dr pangloss (talk) 23:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
January 9
Access to citation indexes
Hi, I'm wondering how to determine WP:NACADEMIC #1, and specifically how to access the two citation indexes, Web of Science and Scopus. It seems that they require subscription to access them, so I'm wondering if there is a way to ask if someone could look them up, like asking about references at WP:RX?
I'm specifically wanting to check Draft:Elizabeth Miller (geologist) - the draft has been declined at AfC, with reference to WP:NPROF, but the decliner also said " Significant secondary coverage is needed" (although WP:NACADEMIC explicitly states that many academics "are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources.") I was able to see on Scopus that Elizabeth L Miller has authored 106 papers, and Google Scholar shows that some have been cited 200, 300 or 400 times, so I think there is a good possibility that she does meet Criterion 1 of WP:NACADEMIC - but how do I confirm that? Many thanks, RebeccaGreen (talk) 04:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @WeirdNAnnoyed: who declined the submission. Polygnotus (talk) 05:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- If I understand correctly, you're trying to meet WP:NPROF criterion 1. I would have accepted that as evidence of her impact in her field (my main concern was the sources being mostly non-independent). Geology isn't my discipline so I don't know what citation rates count as high-impact. As for getting access to citation databases, I can't help you there. However, I work at a university so it's trivial for me to get that data. If you'd like I can try to do some digging on her citations and h-index and get back to you later today or tomorrow. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, I'd really appreciate that. The draft does need editing - I see on the draft creator's talk page that they have been advised that another draft bio didn't have the appropriate tone or format. I'll check back in a couple of days when you've maybe been able to check her citations and h-index, and I'll be happy to do some editing on the draft. RebeccaGreen (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Clandresen: who created the draft. RebeccaGreen (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @WeirdNAnnoyed:, thanks again for your offer of checking citation indexes. Another editor has worked on this draft and has just added a link to a Google Scholar indexation of her papers, including h-index and i10-index, so it won't be necessary for you to do it. (Although WP:PROF cautions against using Google Scholar citation metrics, I assume the other editor knows what they're doing.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 23:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Clandresen: who created the draft. RebeccaGreen (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, I'd really appreciate that. The draft does need editing - I see on the draft creator's talk page that they have been advised that another draft bio didn't have the appropriate tone or format. I'll check back in a couple of days when you've maybe been able to check her citations and h-index, and I'll be happy to do some editing on the draft. RebeccaGreen (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- If I understand correctly, you're trying to meet WP:NPROF criterion 1. I would have accepted that as evidence of her impact in her field (my main concern was the sources being mostly non-independent). Geology isn't my discipline so I don't know what citation rates count as high-impact. As for getting access to citation databases, I can't help you there. However, I work at a university so it's trivial for me to get that data. If you'd like I can try to do some digging on her citations and h-index and get back to you later today or tomorrow. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- RebeccaGreen, I know nothing about geology. Still.... I see within the draft "This paper proposes a much simpler history of Cordillera than that proposed in Colpron and Nelson (2009)." It's normal for a paper to propose this or that. But how has this proposal been received by other, unrelated geologists (not her frequent co-authors/collaborators, etc)? If Lieber and Novotny (2018) described the history as "remarkably perceptive and highly convincing" , then saying so would I think add evidence of notability to her work, and thereby to her. And of course it's not just unalloyed praise that would have value; what's wanted is evidence of the importance of her work, in the eyes of her peers. -- Hoary (talk) 08:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. The current draft needs editing, which would be worth it if she can be shown to be notable through the WP:NACADEMIC criteria. As the WP:NACADEMIC Specific criteria explain, "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates." That is why I would like to access the citation indexes. RebeccaGreen (talk) 09:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- She is notable. Both as an established full professor at a well known notable university and from having more than five papers with >100 citations on each which she does. There is other stuff there is as well that makes her notable. Hope that help. scope_creep 11:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's what I was thinking. RebeccaGreen (talk) 22:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- She is notable. Both as an established full professor at a well known notable university and from having more than five papers with >100 citations on each which she does. There is other stuff there is as well that makes her notable. Hope that help. scope_creep 11:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. The current draft needs editing, which would be worth it if she can be shown to be notable through the WP:NACADEMIC criteria. As the WP:NACADEMIC Specific criteria explain, "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates." That is why I would like to access the citation indexes. RebeccaGreen (talk) 09:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Reverting war
I have a problem with this guy that is constantly adding wrong item to the article Millennium Prize Problems. Some help would be useful to block such a user. Thanks beforehand. Pra1998 (talk) 15:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Send it to AIV. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 15:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages pages are not indexed by Google
Hello! Could you please explain why a page may remain unindexed by Google 90 days after its creation, even though it is indexed by other search engines? Sanidelle (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Articles need to be patrolled by a New Pages Patroller. If that's occurred, you'd have to ask Google why something is not indexed, we have no control or influence over their algorithms. 331dot (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sanidelle Even after the article has been patrolled (which you can check by going to the history page of the article and clicking on "View logs for this page" at the top), search engines may not actually do their indexing for some time afterwards. However, I find that if you make even a minor edit to the article once it is available for crawling, it will be indexed very quickly because Google etc. know how useful Misplaced Pages articles are to those doing searches. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sanidelle: Yes, Google appears to monitor recent edits but there is no edit when noindex is automatically removed after 90 days so Google will not know it unless they revisit the page for some reason. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:22, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
"Edit source" v "edit"
It's a while since I edited Misplaced Pages and when I just went to do so the option to "edit" does not appear but appears to have been replaced by "edit source". The thought of doing so using code is beyond me. How do I get back the old way of editing where I could see what I was doing? Stagememories (talk) 16:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Stagememories You probably want to use the visual editor wherever you can. Look at your settings at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and you'll see how to set that up. Instructions also at Help:Introduction. The visual editor isn't easily available everywhere and has some minor limitations compared to the source editor. See Help:Cheatsheet for a brief introduction to the good stuff you can do in source editing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Michael. I have twice now set the preferences and saved them but the toolbar does not appear. Is it hidden somewhere? Stagememories (talk) 16:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- On a PC (I don't use a phone to edit), it is not a tool but a separate word next to "Read" in the horizontal menu at the top of the article. One says "Edit" = visual edit and the other says "Edit source". Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm using a PC. This is the problem. I was used to seeing the word edit but now only get "Read - Edit Source - View History" with no mention of "edit" alone. This is my problem! Stagememories (talk) 17:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Then I am pretty sure you haven't ticked "Enable visual editor" and saved at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. If you are sure you have, you need to take this up at WP:VPT. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I absolutely have, so I'll do as you suggest. Thanks. Stagememories (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Stagememories but first, don't forget to look at your configuration of the dropdown menu just below the tick-box for the visual editor. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- All fixed. I had somehow changed the "Editing mode" setting. Someone directed me to the place to fix this. Thanks for all your help, Mike. Stagememories (talk) 18:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Stagememories but first, don't forget to look at your configuration of the dropdown menu just below the tick-box for the visual editor. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I absolutely have, so I'll do as you suggest. Thanks. Stagememories (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Then I am pretty sure you haven't ticked "Enable visual editor" and saved at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. If you are sure you have, you need to take this up at WP:VPT. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm using a PC. This is the problem. I was used to seeing the word edit but now only get "Read - Edit Source - View History" with no mention of "edit" alone. This is my problem! Stagememories (talk) 17:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- On a PC (I don't use a phone to edit), it is not a tool but a separate word next to "Read" in the horizontal menu at the top of the article. One says "Edit" = visual edit and the other says "Edit source". Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Michael. I have twice now set the preferences and saved them but the toolbar does not appear. Is it hidden somewhere? Stagememories (talk) 16:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Co-prince of Andorra for French Republic
Greetings everyone ! I have an idea for articles about those who were "Presidents of France". Click on the link to see the list of people concerned.
A "President of French Republic" (Link points to the article about this political function) is also one of the "Co-princes of Andorra".
Is this sensical to add this tenure in the infobox of an article about a president ?
I'd like to do it but a "President of France" is automatically one of the "Co-princes".
I prefer to ask because a "French President" is a co-prince ex officio and therefore it is maybe non-sensical to add this information in an infobox. Anatole-berthe (talk) 19:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see it as non-sensical. Wouldn't be known automatically.Naraht (talk) 00:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Help in expanding an article
I would very much like to expand the article on Christopher M. Reddy, marine chemist. Although I took the Gypsy Horse article from a stub to a full article, I worked with Montanabw on this, and I am a neophyte in Misplaced Pages, and this has been sometime in the past. Could an editor in living biographies work possibly work with me a bit? I know how to edit a page and I am quite familiar with using objective, reputable sources to substantiate content. I am not as familiar with how to go about this as I would like. Thank you. SFGMary (talk) 20:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- SFGMary, as you expand the article Christopher M. Reddy, please remove external links that appear in the body. (As a pair of examples, we now read "recognized Reddy’s achievements as a science communicator with the Ambassador Award": as currently presented, both external links are improper, although either would be usable within a reference.) Just do your best improving and augmenting the article; and when you don't know what to do, or know what you should do but don't know how to do it, ask here. -- Hoary (talk) 22:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Add Pudendal neuralgia to Template:Peripheral nervous system disease
Hello,
request adding this condition to the template above. Probably needs a new section "pelvis" under "arm" and "leg".
It's too complicated to edit this template, I don't know how to do it correctly.
Also I noted on the talk page of the template another user requested to add some other conditions to it.
Many thanks if you can help Moribundum (talk) 21:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @Moribundum. TT:Peripheral nervous system disease is the best place to suggest this. ColinFine (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for answer but unclear. Do you mean the talk page of the template (Template talk:Peripheral nervous system disease)?
- There is a request on there dated 2012... nobody is looking at that page. Moribundum (talk) 23:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Org Chart
Hello!
Obviously I do not have the stats to apply for administrator in a de facto sense, however I was wondering if there was a lower level role I could apply for. NotQualified (talk) 22:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Like Pending Changes Reviewer, New Page Reviewer or Rollbacker? They can all be requested here. Just be sure that you meet the requirements for either of these powers before nominating yourself. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 22:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
I am sorry, the answer is no, because you are NotQualified. - There is a list of user permissions at Misplaced Pages:User access levels, however the reason for additional permissions is to help you contribute to the encyclopedia. Misplaced Pages:Hat collecting for its own sake is discouraged. TSventon (talk) 22:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- NotQualified, yes, please read Misplaced Pages:User access levels. You are already extended confirmed. Administrators may be reluctant to grant optional advanced access levels given the problems identified on your talk page. Cullen328 (talk) 22:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Edge Case sourcing question
Misplaced Pages operates on a basis where sources are got from Reputable Sources typically and people can't cite the person themself or something they made.
What if a source comments on something that someone said, such as a Twitter post, but didn't include it outright. Am I then allowed to quote what someone posts online to provide context, or does an Reputable Source have to explicitly mention the post?
e.g. "Mr. XYZ expressed on Twitter last night his thoughts on the economy..." NotQualified (talk) 23:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- An independent reliable source noting that comment is what lends significance to it. People say a lot of things; most are not worth recording in an encyclopedia article. Schazjmd (talk) 23:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes but if they acknowledge it, but I need it for context, can I use it NotQualified (talk) 23:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @NotQualified, editors aren't investigative journalists pulling together a story. Editors are summarizing what independent reliable sources have written about a topic. Schazjmd (talk) 23:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I know that but if a source has written on a tweet, and they specifically mention that tweet, but they do not include the tweet, is the tweet a source NotQualified (talk) 23:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you're asking now. It depends on the context, but generally you could also cite the tweet in addition to the reliable source (assuming there is no question that the tweet that you're citing is the one mentioned by the RS). Schazjmd (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, thanks for the follow-up questions. Obviously I misunderstood what you asked originally, so I appreciate you clarifying it. Schazjmd (talk) 23:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- thank you for all that you do! how would i cite a tweet? is there a specific wikipedia function or is it the same as other citations? NotQualified (talk) 23:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here you go: Template:Cite tweet Schazjmd (talk) 23:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- is there a tutorial on how to browse the wiki on wikipedia, ive no idea where you find all of these things lol NotQualified (talk) 23:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- also how did you customise your name? NotQualified (talk) 23:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know of one (maybe someone does and will mention it?) but after awhile, you learn how to search for things. You can see on my user page how I've collected wikilinks to things I find. (You can always browse Misplaced Pages:Editor's index to Misplaced Pages to get an idea of all the stuff that's out there.)
- Misplaced Pages:Signatures#Customizing_your_signature
- Schazjmd (talk) 23:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- meta question here, where is the code for wikipedia? ive always found things are a bit clunky, especially the lack of concurrent editing NotQualified (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- test NotQualified (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- checking if this is right now NotQualified (talk) 00:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- test NotQualified (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- it works now NotQualified (talk) 00:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- meta question here, where is the code for wikipedia? ive always found things are a bit clunky, especially the lack of concurrent editing NotQualified (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here you go: Template:Cite tweet Schazjmd (talk) 23:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- thank you for all that you do! how would i cite a tweet? is there a specific wikipedia function or is it the same as other citations? NotQualified (talk) 23:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I know that but if a source has written on a tweet, and they specifically mention that tweet, but they do not include the tweet, is the tweet a source NotQualified (talk) 23:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @NotQualified, editors aren't investigative journalists pulling together a story. Editors are summarizing what independent reliable sources have written about a topic. Schazjmd (talk) 23:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes but if they acknowledge it, but I need it for context, can I use it NotQualified (talk) 23:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
If you'd like to experiment with your signature, NotQualified, please do so in your sandbox. -- Hoary (talk) 00:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- "where is the code for wikipedia?": I don't understand, but does the article MediaWiki help? -- Hoary (talk) 00:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- well wikipedia has to have a source code which people maintain, right? where is that repo NotQualified (talk) 00:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Please see this. -- Hoary (talk) 00:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- well wikipedia has to have a source code which people maintain, right? where is that repo NotQualified (talk) 00:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- sorry! NotQualified (talk) 00:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @NotQualified. For myself, I find your new signature hard to read, as the orange is too light (I don't use a dark mode). ColinFine (talk) 12:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- i'll look into it, thanks NotQualified (talk) 12:38, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- is this better? NotQualified (talk) 13:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, much better. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @NotQualified. For myself, I find your new signature hard to read, as the orange is too light (I don't use a dark mode). ColinFine (talk) 12:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
January 10
Section, image; section, image; section, image....
The layout of Portraits of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart presents no hindrance to understanding, but is unusually ugly. (For the layout, the editor to blame is me.) Perhaps I'm caffeine-deprived, but I can neither think of a potential solution nor find one within Help:Pictures. (Alternating left, right, left, right ... would reduce the monotony and save space, but would bring its own problems.) Suggestions? -- Hoary (talk) 00:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- As a reader, I think Help:Pictures#Without_flowing_text to the left would be easiest to view. Heading identifies the image; image immediately below heading; then text; next heading... Schazjmd (talk) 00:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- But Schazjmd, if I understand this right, it would lead to yet more empty space and a (visually) longer article with more need for scrolling. If so, then no. But I appreciate the suggestion that the captions are pretty much redundant. (They were added back when virtually all the images were in a gallery near the foot of the article, an arrangement that required captions.) I shan't remove the captions till either the larger problem has been resolved or it's clear that there is no good solution to that larger problem; however, I'll keep their removal in mind. (Pinging NeoGaze and CurryTime7-24.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I initially took as a model the article on portraits of Johann Sebastian Bach, but it obviously has fewer pictures and thus the gallery worked better. I think that what was done in the italian version of that article is a good option if you don't specially care about picture distribution consistency. Another possibility would to manually modify the size of the paintings to match each paragraph. I tested this myself and it was even worse and more inconsistent, specially in the inauthentic part of the portraits, which has less text and thus you end with almost illegible pictures. NeoGaze (talk) 12:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- The layout of the Italian Bach page is less monotonous than that of the English Mozart page, NeoGaze, but it would waste just as much space (unless other measures were also taken). -- Hoary (talk) 12:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have seen some articles with "mini-galleries" at places in the article. I don't know if that would improve things here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's a possibility, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, but it would set up a hurdle for the reader: matching the text to the image. -- Hoary (talk) 12:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- You could try using the
|upright=
parameter to tweak the sizes of the images. Many would be fine if a bit smaller than the standard thumb. After all, if the reader wants to take a close look, they will click on the picture. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)- Yes, good idea, Mike Turnbull. I'll do that (unless of course somebody beats me to it), remove (or comment out) the captions (after checking that they don't contain information that isn't also in the text), and perhaps do some left/right bouncing. But not until thirty-plus hours from now. -- Hoary (talk) 12:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I tried this myself and it didn't work very well, specially if you want to strictly adjust the size of a picture to a small portion of text. If you do this, you leave a picture so small that it can even be hard to notice it in the first place, let alone being visible to any degree. I have already removed the redundant captions, but not moved the pictures themselves. NeoGaze (talk) 18:58, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not knowing the dimensions and resolution of a reader's device makes it impossible to do what is being attempted here. I recommend displaying images as thumbnails, with an "upright" value of, say, 1.2 for those in portrait orientation.
- MOS:SANDWICH and MOS:IMAGELOC have helpful warnings about not using the default alignment of "right", especially regarding making text easier to visually scan.
- A gallery layout may yet prove to be a good solution. Bazza 7 (talk) 20:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
January 11
Extended-confirmed rights
Hello, I just recently had over 500 edits and my account is older than 30 days. I have a few questions:
1) Aside from being able to edit extended confirmed articles and viewing the Misplaced Pages library, are there any other new rights I get from this? If so, what are they?
2) Is there anything I should be doing differently now that I have this permission?
3) Do the amount of edits I have still matter beyond this point? If so, why?
4) After achieving this, are there any other realistic "goals" related to more rights which Wikipedians go for? If so, what are they? 4b) Are these goals dependent on how much time and effort we put in to this? If that's the case, could you explain what the different goals are depending on the amount of time people spend on here?
5) Is there anything else I should know or be improving on?
Thank you all for your time! Wikieditor662 (talk) 00:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Wikieditor662: Just continue to be a productive editor. Don't worry about any additional user rights. When you get to a point where you might need more, you will probably know (such as rollback for anti-vandalism work, or applying to be an administrator if you find you need those tools, etc). If you want to help out at Category:Wikipedia_extended-confirmed-protected_edit_requests I'm sure that would be appreciated RudolfRed (talk) 01:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- As said above, you can answer extended confirmed edit requests if you wish.
- Should? No. You're free to do as you wish on this volunteer project.
- You might have to be more specific, but in general, no. Your edit count can be a sign of experience to others, but has no major practical effect.
- See Misplaced Pages:User access levels. Keep in mind though that there are no goals that Wikipedians have to aim for. You should obtain a right when you actually plan to use it, not just as a sign of status. Some minor user rights are pending changes reviewers and rollbacker. Major user rights include oversighter, checkuser, and, of course, administrator. Those major rights require a gigantic amount of experience and trust from the community as well as required time spent to keep those roles; most users never obtain them.
- Make sure you always have fun here!
- Tarlby 02:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Unclear why link doesn't work in add a citation tool
To whom it may concern,
I have tried to use the add a citation tool on the Do They Know It's Christmas? page with the following link: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2025/01/10/do-they-know-its-payday/ but it doesn't work. I am unclear why the link isn't being picked up or identified as such.
Any ideas how to fix or resolve this issue? Greenpark79 (talk) 00:47, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
i changed my password but can't log in
i changed my password, it took me to the login page, and i entered my new password but it said incorrect password. why does it do this? Qxva (talk) 02:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Qxva Are you sure you entered the same password on both instances? I'm pretty sure that's the issue, but if not, it might be a software bug and you may want to raise the issue somewhere in MediaWiki (I'm not sure the exact page). Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 02:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- i'm certain i entered the same password on both instances. Qxva (talk) 03:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
How can I submit sources to provide edits are correct?
WikiOriginal-9 Keeps undoing my edits due to (No source, removal of relevant content). How can I submit sources to provide edits are correct?
Thank you, Pagefinder123 (talk) 02:36, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- (moved from talk) ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Pagefinder123. See WP:CITE, WP:V, and WP:RS. Tarlby 03:24, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Marking an achieved request as complete
There is an extended confirmed request edit Talk:Lionel Messi/Archive 28#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 October 2024 - Lionel Messi Misplaced Pages Page which I want to mark as Partly done: (and explain why), but I can't reply and the page says not to edit its' contents, which means I can't mark the request as answered. What do I do? Wikieditor662 (talk) 05:41, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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