Revision as of 19:25, 19 April 2014 edit99.107.148.15 (talk) Greedo shot first, because George Lucas said so. Get the fuck over it and go out and laid already! Greedo shot first, that's no reason to say indoors trolling "Han shot first" rather than going out and fucking a girl, gees!← Previous edit | Latest revision as of 14:43, 27 October 2024 edit undoMaxeto0910 (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users94,542 edits no sentenceTag: Visual edit | ||
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{{short description|Controversy about a scene of Star Wars}} | |||
] firing a shot at ] shortly before Han responds in kind. In the original 1977 release, Han is the only one to fire.]] | |||
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'''"Han shot first"''' is a phrase used to refer to a controversial ] made to a scene in the ] of '']'' (]) in which ] (]) is confronted by the ] ] at the ]. | |||
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"'''Han shot first'''" refers to a controversial ] made to a scene in the film '']'' (1977),{{EpIV}} in which ] is confronted by the ] ] in the ] cantina. In the original version of this scene, Han shoots Greedo dead. Later versions are edited so that Greedo fires at Han first. Director ] altered the scene to give Solo more justification for acting in self-defense. Many fans and commentators oppose the change, feeling it weakens Solo's ]. The controversy is referenced in the 2018 film '']''. | |||
==Scene== | ==Scene== | ||
The smuggler ] (]) is cornered by the bounty hunter ] (]/Maria De Aragon) in a cantina and forced at gunpoint to sit. While they talk about money Solo owes, Solo readies his gun under the table. Greedo tells him he has been "looking forward" to killing Solo for a long time. Solo replies, "Yes, I'll bet you have." | |||
Greedo is an associate of ], a Tatooine based crime lord for whom Han Solo also used to work. Before the events of the film, Jabba has put a bounty on Han, who had been transporting cargo for the crime lord, but was forced to dump it in order to avoid capture by an Imperial search party. The scene depicts Greedo pulling his blaster on Han as he attempts to leave the Mos Eisley cantina and cornering him to sit down in a booth. Han tells Greedo that he has accumulated enough money to pay Jabba back, but Greedo demands the money and grows angrier when Han tells him he does not have it in his possession. As Han slowly, but secretly begins to ready his own blaster underneath the table, Greedo tells him that Jabba has run out of patience with Han and that he, Greedo, had been "waiting for a long time" to take out his former associate. Han replies, "Yes, I'll bet you have", and shoots him dead through the table with a concealed blaster. | |||
The conclusion varies depending on the version of the film being watched.<ref name="NYTimes2024"/> In the original version, the film cuts to a shot of Greedo, followed quickly by flashes of sparks, a cloud of smoke, and the sound of a blaster firing. This is followed by a shot of Greedo from behind, slumping over the table. In the ], Greedo shoots first at Solo and misses due to Solo moving his head, and Solo then returns fire, killing Greedo.<ref name="Atlantic"/> | |||
In the original 1977 theatrical release of the film, immediately after Han says to Greedo, "I'll bet you have", a cloud of smoke appears and blurs the screen showing Greedo face-on followed by a shot of Greedo's corpse, from behind, slumping over the table. Director ] expressed his dissatisfaction with the scene's climax believing that it depicted Han, who is the film's supporting ], as a cold-blooded killer. For the film's 20th anniversary theatrical re-release in 1997, Lucas altered the scene with an additional second of footage by showing Greedo shooting at Han first from ] and missing only to result in Han retaliating by firing back and killing Greedo.<ref>Howell, Peter, , ], May 12, 2006</ref><ref>Tocci, Jason, , ], April 29, 2007</ref> Thus, the phrase "Han shot first" is a retort to director ]' explicit cinematic assertion that "Greedo shot first". | |||
For the 2004 DVD release, the shots are fired at nearly the same time and Solo dodges Greedo's shot.<ref name="Atlantic">{{cite web|url=https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/08/the-star-wars-george-lucas-doesnt-want-you-to-see/379184/|title=The ''Star Wars'' George Lucas Doesn't Want You To See|last=Eveleth|first=Rose|author-link=Rose Eveleth |date=August 27, 2014|work=]|access-date=November 19, 2015|quote=In the original versions ... it's clear that Han Solo pulled out his gun and shot the bounty hunter Greedo. In the 1997 version, Greedo shoots first. In the 2004 version, they shoot at the same time.|archive-date=August 28, 2014|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140828030602/http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/08/the-star-wars-george-lucas-doesnt-want-you-to-see/379184/|url-status=live}}</ref> For the 2011 ] release, the scene of Solo and Greedo firing at each other was shortened by several frames.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://collider.com/star-wars-blu-ray-changes-2/112594/|title=More Changes to ''STAR WARS'' Include Blinking Ewoks and Different Cut of Greedo Shooting First|date=September 1, 2011|work=Collider|access-date=September 19, 2011|archive-date=September 25, 2011|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110925081226/http://collider.com/star-wars-blu-ray-changes-2/112594|url-status=live}}</ref> The scene was changed again for the version of the film released on ] on November 12, 2019. In this version, using a close-up shot already used a few seconds before,<ref>{{cite web |last=Caicoya |first=Bea |title=Star Wars: Every Disney+ Change Made to A New Hope |url=https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-every-disney-change-made-to-a-new-hope/ |website=CBR |access-date=November 24, 2019 |date=November 24, 2019 |archive-date=November 28, 2019 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191128064342/https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-every-disney-change-made-to-a-new-hope/ |url-status=live }}</ref> Greedo says a line transcribed by fans as "maclunkey" or "ma klounkee" ("This'll be the end of you") before shooting at Han. The line may be a threat spoken in ], as it is used that way by ] in '']''.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://slate.com/culture/2019/11/star-wars-greedo-han-shot-first-edited-again-maclunkey.html|title=In Latest Version of Star Wars' "Han Shot First" Scene, George Lucas Adds "Maclunkey"|date=2019-11-12|website=Slate Magazine|access-date=2019-11-17|archive-date=May 29, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200529144220/https://slate.com/culture/2019/11/star-wars-greedo-han-shot-first-edited-again-maclunkey.html|url-status=live}}</ref> Additionally, the reverse shot of Greedo being shot was removed, and new effects were used. The changes were made by Lucas before ] in 2012.<ref name=verge>{{Cite web|url=https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/12/20961173/disney-plus-star-wars-han-solo-greedo-new-hope-edit-george-lucas|title=George Lucas changed Han Solo's scene with Greedo in Star Wars: A New Hope, Disney confirmed|last=Alexander|first=Julia|date=2019-11-12|website=The Verge|access-date=2019-11-17|archive-date=November 12, 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191112170437/https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/12/20961173/disney-plus-star-wars-han-solo-greedo-new-hope-edit-george-lucas|url-status=live}}</ref>] | |||
==Controversies, further changes and Lucas' response== | |||
The alteration of the scene was disagreeable to a number of longtime fans of the series, provoking some to create an online petition demanding that the changes be retracted.<ref>{{cite web |url = http://www.hanshootsfirst.org/|title = Han Shoots First|accessdate = 2006-12-03|work = hanshootsfirst.org}}</ref><!--Cited--> The primary objection to the revision is that it alters Han's initially morally ambiguous character, making his later transition from ] to ] less meaningful.<ref>Sagers, Aaron, , ], February 15, 2006</ref> | |||
Since the "Special Edition", there have been two additional ] releases. In the film's first official DVD release in 2004, the disputed scene was altered again, this time with Greedo still shooting before Han does and missing at close range, but the timing is altered so the shots are fired at nearly the same time and to depict Han "dodging" the shot (digital manipulation is used to "lean" the character to one side). | |||
According to Paul Blake, the scene was created as a result of Lucas having to cut a special effects-heavy scene introducing ]<ref name=carbone/> due to budget and schedule concerns.<ref>George Lucas commentary, ''Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope'', Special Edition, dir. George Lucas, (DVD, 20th Century Fox, 2004).</ref> The original version of the Greedo scene has grown to be considered iconic,<ref name=verge/> while ], which was restored for the Special Edition and later releases, is generally regarded as superfluous.<ref>{{cite web |last=Miller |first=Leon |title=Star Wars: 5 Special Edition Changes That Should Be Reversed (& 5 We'd Keep) |url=https://screenrant.com/star-wars-george-lucas-best-worst-special-edition-changes/ |website=Screen Rant |access-date=November 2, 2019 |date=October 8, 2019 |archive-date=November 2, 2019 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191102122405/https://screenrant.com/star-wars-george-lucas-best-worst-special-edition-changes/ |url-status=live }}</ref><ref>{{cite magazine|url=http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-changes/|title=Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes|last=Kirby|first=Ben|date=January 31, 2017|magazine=]|access-date=February 28, 2020|archive-date=May 7, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170507084052/http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-changes/|url-status=live}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.yahoo.com/movies/15-changes-to-the-original-star-wars-trilogy-125345399182.html|title=15 Changes to the Original 'Star Wars' Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy|last=Watkins|first=Gwynne|date=July 29, 2015|publisher=]|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160702022041/https://www.yahoo.com/movies/15-changes-to-the-original-star-wars-trilogy-125345399182.html|archive-date=July 2, 2016|url-status=dead|access-date=February 28, 2020}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars/17281/the-10-worst-crimes-against-the-original-star-wars-trilogy|title=The 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Star Wars Trilogy|date=April 4, 2011|publisher=Den of Geek!|access-date=February 28, 2020|archive-date=June 6, 2012|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120606212955/http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars/17281/the-10-worst-crimes-against-the-original-star-wars-trilogy|url-status=live}}</ref> | |||
In 2006, ''Star Wars'' was released individually on DVD in a "Limited Edition" release that featured two versions of the film: the 2004 release and the compressed 1993 Definitive Collection laserdiscs version (credited as the "unaltered edition" from 1977).<ref>http://originaltrilogy.com/Lucasfilm_PR_response.cfm</ref> When announcing the release of the dual-version DVDs, ] noted that the scene was included by saying: "...and yes, see Han Solo shoot first."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20080701102323/http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html|archivedate=July 1, 2008|title=This September: Original Unaltered Trilogy on DVD|accessdate=December 3, 2006|date=May 3, 2006|work=starwars.com}}</ref> | |||
The original special effect was designed and carried out by British two-time ] winning 'Dean of Special Effects' ], who mounted the pyrotechnics to the Greedo character.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Aficionadofan |date=2012-10-03 |title=STAR WARS AFICIONADO WEBSITE: STAR WARS AT 35: CELEBRATING THE CANTINA CREATURES |url=https://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2012/10/star-wars-at-35-celebrating-cantina.html |access-date=2023-09-18 |website=STAR WARS AFICIONADO WEBSITE |archive-date=September 28, 2023 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230928232422/https://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2012/10/star-wars-at-35-celebrating-cantina.html |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
==Criticism== | |||
For the 2011 ] release, the shot of Han and Greedo firing at each other from the 2004 DVD has been tightened up by several frames.<ref>{{cite web|url = http://collider.com/star-wars-blu-ray-changes-2/112594/|title = More Changes to STAR WARS Include Blinking Ewoks and Different Cut of Greedo Shooting First|accessdate = 2011-09-19|date = 2011-09-01|work = collider.com}}</ref> | |||
The change is one of the most controversial of ] in the 1997 Special Edition of ''Star Wars''.<ref name="NYTimes2024"/><ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/31/17409740/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first|title=Solo: A Star Wars Story makes the 'Han shot first' debate even messier|work=Polygon|access-date=2018-11-26|archive-date=March 9, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200309052319/https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/31/17409740/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first|url-status=live}}</ref> Many fans argued that it alters Han's initially morally ambiguous character,<ref>{{Cite web |date=February 15, 2006 |title=An unbelievable day in the life of Jack Bauer |url=https://www.mcall.com/2006/02/15/an-unbelievable-day-in-the-life-of-jack-bauer/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230918110024/https://www.mcall.com/2006/02/15/an-unbelievable-day-in-the-life-of-jack-bauer/ |archive-date=September 18, 2023 |access-date=October 30, 2023 |website=] |language=en-US}}</ref> making his later transition from ] to ] less meaningful.{{Citation needed|date=May 2020}} According to '']'', "Fans lost their minds. It was an affront, the neutering of a badass."<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-lawrence-jonathan-kasdan-1202812392/|title=How the Kasdans Settled the Biggest Debate in 'Star Wars' History With 'Solo'|last=Tapley|first=Kristopher|date=2018-05-26|work=Variety|access-date=2018-11-26|language=en-US|archive-date=June 15, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180615115222/https://variety.com/2018/film/news/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-lawrence-jonathan-kasdan-1202812392/|url-status=live}}</ref> Fans have created ] of the original ''Star Wars'' films (such as ]) to reverse Lucas' changes, especially the scene with Solo and Greedo.<ref name=Atlantic/><ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-14/restoring-star-wars/6994818|title=Restoring Star Wars|work=ABC News|date=December 13, 2015|access-date=December 18, 2015|archive-date=January 24, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170124070713/http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-14/restoring-star-wars/6994818|url-status=live}}</ref> In a 2004 interview, Lucas responded to the criticism, saying, "To me, doesn't really exist anymore. ... I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be."<ref>{{cite interview|last=Lucas|first=George|interviewer=Associated Press|title=Lucas talks as 'Star Wars' trilogy returns|url=http://www.today.com/id/6011380/ns/today-today_entertainment/t/lucas-talks-star-wars-trilogy-returns/|access-date=December 18, 2015|location=San Rafael, CA|date=September 15, 2004|archive-date=January 19, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160119203533/http://www.today.com/id/6011380/ns/today-today_entertainment/t/lucas-talks-star-wars-trilogy-returns/|url-status=live}}</ref> He acknowledged the controversy by wearing a "Han shot first" T-shirt on the set of '']'' (2008).<ref>{{Cite magazine|last=Breznican|first=Anthony|date=2019-11-12|title=George Lucas Gave Greedo the Last Word in New Star Wars Change|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/11/greedo-han-solo-star-wars-edit|access-date=2020-07-17|magazine=Vanity Fair|language=en-us|archive-date=August 13, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200813092235/https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/11/greedo-han-solo-star-wars-edit|url-status=live}}</ref> In a 2012 interview with '']'', Lucas said: | |||
{{quote|The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in ''Episode IV'', what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn't. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.<ref>{{cite interview | url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/george-lucas-star-wars-interview-288523 | title=5 Questions With George Lucas: Controversial ''Star Wars'' Changes, SOPA and ''Indiana Jones 5'' | first=George | last=Lucas | interviewer=Alex Ben Block | date=February 9, 2012 | work=] | access-date=October 4, 2015 | archive-date=February 18, 2012 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120218124308/http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/george-lucas-star-wars-interview-288523 | url-status=live }}</ref>}} | |||
One draft of the original script makes no mention of Greedo shooting at all, only Solo.<ref>Star Wars: A New Hope script, Revised Fourth Draft. January 15, 1976</ref>{{better source|date=May 2020}} In 2015, a replica of an early script for ''Star Wars'' was discovered in the archives of the ] library. In the script, dated March 15, 1976, Han shoots first.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/original-star-wars-script-discovered-in-unb-library-1.3104206|title=Copy of original Star Wars script discovered in UNB library|date=June 8, 2015|publisher=]|access-date=October 4, 2015|archive-date=June 8, 2015|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150608202536/http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/original-star-wars-script-discovered-in-unb-library-1.3104206|url-status=live}}</ref> In a 2015 interview, Lucas said:<blockquote>Han Solo was going to marry ], and you look back and say, "Should he be a cold-blooded killer?" Because I was thinking mythologically—should he be a cowboy, should he be ]? And I said, "Yeah, he should be John Wayne." And when you're John Wayne, you don't shoot people —you let them have the first shot.{{efn|In '']'', John Wayne's character, Thomas Dunson, shoots and kills a Mexican whose boss Dunson admits he is stealing land from. The Mexican begins to draw just before Dunson, who then says he predicted his opponent's move "By watchin' his eyes."<ref>''Red River'' (1948). Events occurs at 17. {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211219065847/https://www.filmsite.org/redr.html |date=December 19, 2021 }} via ]. Retrieved December 18, 2021.</ref>}} It's a mythological reality that we hope our society pays attention to.<ref>{{cite interview | title=George Lucas: To feel the true force of 'Star Wars,' he had to learn to let it go | first=George | last=Lucas | location=San Rafael, CA | work=] | date=December 5, 2015 | url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/george-lucas-to-feel-the-true-force-of-star-wars-he-had-to-learn-to-let-it-go/2015/11/27/d752067a-8b1f-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html | access-date=May 13, 2017 | archive-date=May 20, 2017 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170520162813/https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/george-lucas-to-feel-the-true-force-of-star-wars-he-had-to-learn-to-let-it-go/2015/11/27/d752067a-8b1f-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html | url-status=live }}</ref></blockquote> | |||
Despite this claim from Lucas, drafts of the original shooting script on the internet make no mention of Greedo shooting at all, only Han.<ref>http://www.blueharvest.net/scoops/anh-script.shtml</ref> | |||
In 2020's ''The Star Wars Archives: 1999–2005'', Lucas commented, "I never designed Han to be a ruthless killer. All the good guys shoot in ]. When I edited the scene in 1977 you couldn't tell who does what."<ref>{{Cite web |last=Chichizola |first=Corey |date=2020-11-19 |title=Star Wars' George Lucas Weighed In On The Infamous Han Shooting First Scene |url=https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2558989/star-wars-george-lucas-weighed-in-on-the-infamous-han-shooting-first-scene |access-date=2020-11-22 |website=CinemaBlend |archive-date=November 20, 2020 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201120085843/https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2558989/star-wars-george-lucas-weighed-in-on-the-infamous-han-shooting-first-scene |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
], the actor who played Chewbacca in the original series, was asked in a ] ], "Mr Mayhew. Did Han really shoot first ? You were there. You saw it first hand. The truth needs to come out !" His response was "]"<ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ljlju/i_ama_peter_mayhew_chewbacca_from_the_star_wars/cbzw65c</ref> | |||
Paul Blake said in a 2016 interview: "Of course, it said it all in the original script, we played in the scene in English and at the end of the scene, it reads, 'Han shoots the alien.' It's all it says and that's what happened. It was very painful." Blake felt that Greedo shooting at and missing Solo at very short range made him appear inept, and that Greedo has more glory if he is "just blown away".<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/greedo-actor-star-wars-restore-han-solo-shooting-article-1.2623730|title=EXCLUSIVE: Greedo actor wants 'Star Wars' to restore Han Solo shooting first scene: 'It does give him a little more glory'|last=Sacks|first=Ethan|date=May 5, 2016|newspaper=]|location=New York|access-date=May 5, 2016|archive-date=May 6, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160506005608/http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/greedo-actor-star-wars-restore-han-solo-shooting-article-1.2623730|url-status=live}}</ref> In 2015, legal expert John P. Gross argued that Greedo's behavior constituted a direct threat and would warrant ] under U.S. law.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/12/ua_professor_han_solo_was_lega.html|title=UA Professor: Han Solo was legally justified to shoot first|last1=Gross|first1=John|website=AL.com|date=December 17, 2015|publisher=Alabama Media Group|access-date=2016-01-15|archive-date=January 7, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160107093138/http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/12/ua_professor_han_solo_was_lega.html|url-status=live}}</ref> In 2014, when asked in a ], Harrison Ford replied, "I don't know and I don't care."<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/1726087/harrison-ford-star-wars-who-shot-first/|title=Harrison Ford Doesn't Know, Doesn't Care If Han Shot First|last=Wigler|first=Josh|date=April 14, 2014|access-date=June 12, 2014|publisher=MTV News|archive-date=July 25, 2014|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140725222532/http://www.mtv.com/news/1726087/harrison-ford-star-wars-who-shot-first/|url-status=dead}}</ref> | |||
], was also asked in a ] ], "Hi Mr, Ford. I think we would all like to know: Who shot first? Han Solo or Greedo?"; he responded: "I don't know and I don't care."<ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/22xh4j/i_am_harrison_harrison_ford_ama/cgrbxl4</ref> | |||
On the 2019 addition of a new line of dialogue, Blake said: | |||
{{quote|I couldn't understand a word of it. (laughs) It confused me incredibly, but I've never understood anything about the movies anyway, particularly that. The convention I've just come back from, I had a million opinions from everybody. This new word!<ref name=carbone>{{cite web |last=Carbone |first=Gina |title=Greedo Actor Is Confused By 'Maclunkey,' And Star Wars In General |url=https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2484984/greedo-actor-is-confused-by-maclunkey-and-star-wars-in-general |website=Cinema Blend |access-date=November 17, 2019 |date=November 17, 2019 |archive-date=November 17, 2019 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191117210507/https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2484984/greedo-actor-is-confused-by-maclunkey-and-star-wars-in-general |url-status=live }}</ref>}}In the 2018 film ''],'' Han Solo shoots antagonist ] mid-sentence, killing him.<ref name="Variety5.29.18">{{cite news|last=Tapley|first=Kristopher|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-lawrence-jonathan-kasdan-1202812392/|title=How the Kasdans Settled the Biggest Debate in 'Star Wars' History With 'Solo'|date=May 26, 2018|work=]|access-date=May 29, 2018|archive-date=May 29, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180529000550/http://variety.com/2018/film/news/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-lawrence-jonathan-kasdan-1202812392/|url-status=live}}</ref><ref name="Solo A Star Wars Story, Comic Book2">{{cite news|last=Outlaw|first=Kofi|url=http://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/05/28/solo-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-origin-beckett-death/|title='Solo: A Star Wars Story' Reveals Why Han Shot First|date=May 28, 2018|access-date=May 29, 2018|publisher=ComicBook.com|archive-date=May 28, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180528221217/http://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/05/28/solo-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-origin-beckett-death/|url-status=live}}</ref><ref name="CinemaBlend5.27.18">{{cite news|last=Libbey|first=Dirk|url=https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2425491/solo-a-star-wars-story-wants-to-make-it-clear-to-everyone-han-shot-first|title=Solo: A Star Wars Story Wants To Make It Clear To Everyone Han Shot First|date=May 27, 2018|access-date=May 29, 2018|publisher=CinemaBlend|archive-date=May 29, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180529130546/https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2425491/solo-a-star-wars-story-wants-to-make-it-clear-to-everyone-han-shot-first|url-status=live}}</ref> Writers ] and ] confirmed that this was a deliberate reference, and that the ''Solo'' shooting script specifies: "There can be no question that Han shoots first."<ref name="Variety5.29.18" /><ref name="CinemaBlend5.27.18" /> | |||
In '']'' (2020), which features characters from different time periods brought together through ], an older Han from '']'' asks the younger Han from ''A New Hope'' if he wants to shoot first during an encounter with Greedo. He replies, "After you." Both men open fire simultaneously, before Greedo can react. | |||
No official version of the film in a format quality better than ] depicts Solo being the only shooter; this includes all currently available licensed DVD and Blu-Ray versions.<ref>{{cite web |url = http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865564764/Star-Wars-Han-Solo-was-the-only-one-who-shot-at-all.html?pg=all|title = Star War's Han Solo was the only one who shot at all|date = 2012-10-08 |accessdate = 2014-03-11|work= ]}}</ref> | |||
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Controversy about a scene of Star Wars
"Han shot first" refers to a controversial change made to a scene in the film Star Wars (1977), in which Han Solo is confronted by the bounty hunter Greedo in the Mos Eisley cantina. In the original version of this scene, Han shoots Greedo dead. Later versions are edited so that Greedo fires at Han first. Director George Lucas altered the scene to give Solo more justification for acting in self-defense. Many fans and commentators oppose the change, feeling it weakens Solo's characterization. The controversy is referenced in the 2018 film Solo: A Star Wars Story.
Scene
The smuggler Han Solo (Harrison Ford) is cornered by the bounty hunter Greedo (Paul Blake/Maria De Aragon) in a cantina and forced at gunpoint to sit. While they talk about money Solo owes, Solo readies his gun under the table. Greedo tells him he has been "looking forward" to killing Solo for a long time. Solo replies, "Yes, I'll bet you have."
The conclusion varies depending on the version of the film being watched. In the original version, the film cuts to a shot of Greedo, followed quickly by flashes of sparks, a cloud of smoke, and the sound of a blaster firing. This is followed by a shot of Greedo from behind, slumping over the table. In the 1997 Special Edition, Greedo shoots first at Solo and misses due to Solo moving his head, and Solo then returns fire, killing Greedo.
For the 2004 DVD release, the shots are fired at nearly the same time and Solo dodges Greedo's shot. For the 2011 Blu-ray release, the scene of Solo and Greedo firing at each other was shortened by several frames. The scene was changed again for the version of the film released on Disney+ on November 12, 2019. In this version, using a close-up shot already used a few seconds before, Greedo says a line transcribed by fans as "maclunkey" or "ma klounkee" ("This'll be the end of you") before shooting at Han. The line may be a threat spoken in Huttese, as it is used that way by Sebulba in The Phantom Menace. Additionally, the reverse shot of Greedo being shot was removed, and new effects were used. The changes were made by Lucas before Disney acquired the franchise in 2012.
According to Paul Blake, the scene was created as a result of Lucas having to cut a special effects-heavy scene introducing Jabba the Hutt due to budget and schedule concerns. The original version of the Greedo scene has grown to be considered iconic, while the Jabba scene, which was restored for the Special Edition and later releases, is generally regarded as superfluous. The original special effect was designed and carried out by British two-time Academy Award winning 'Dean of Special Effects' John Stears, who mounted the pyrotechnics to the Greedo character.
Criticism
The change is one of the most controversial of many alterations made in the 1997 Special Edition of Star Wars. Many fans argued that it alters Han's initially morally ambiguous character, making his later transition from antihero to hero less meaningful. According to Variety, "Fans lost their minds. It was an affront, the neutering of a badass." Fans have created fan edits of the original Star Wars films (such as Harmy's Despecialized Edition) to reverse Lucas' changes, especially the scene with Solo and Greedo. In a 2004 interview, Lucas responded to the criticism, saying, "To me, doesn't really exist anymore. ... I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be." He acknowledged the controversy by wearing a "Han shot first" T-shirt on the set of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008). In a 2012 interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Lucas said:
The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn't. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.
One draft of the original script makes no mention of Greedo shooting at all, only Solo. In 2015, a replica of an early script for Star Wars was discovered in the archives of the University of New Brunswick library. In the script, dated March 15, 1976, Han shoots first. In a 2015 interview, Lucas said:
Han Solo was going to marry Leia, and you look back and say, "Should he be a cold-blooded killer?" Because I was thinking mythologically—should he be a cowboy, should he be John Wayne? And I said, "Yeah, he should be John Wayne." And when you're John Wayne, you don't shoot people —you let them have the first shot. It's a mythological reality that we hope our society pays attention to.
In 2020's The Star Wars Archives: 1999–2005, Lucas commented, "I never designed Han to be a ruthless killer. All the good guys shoot in self-defense. When I edited the scene in 1977 you couldn't tell who does what."
Paul Blake said in a 2016 interview: "Of course, it said it all in the original script, we played in the scene in English and at the end of the scene, it reads, 'Han shoots the alien.' It's all it says and that's what happened. It was very painful." Blake felt that Greedo shooting at and missing Solo at very short range made him appear inept, and that Greedo has more glory if he is "just blown away". In 2015, legal expert John P. Gross argued that Greedo's behavior constituted a direct threat and would warrant preemptive action in self-defense under U.S. law. In 2014, when asked in a Reddit AMA, Harrison Ford replied, "I don't know and I don't care." On the 2019 addition of a new line of dialogue, Blake said:
I couldn't understand a word of it. (laughs) It confused me incredibly, but I've never understood anything about the movies anyway, particularly that. The convention I've just come back from, I had a million opinions from everybody. This new word!
In the 2018 film Solo: A Star Wars Story, Han Solo shoots antagonist Tobias Beckett mid-sentence, killing him. Writers Lawrence and Jonathan Kasdan confirmed that this was a deliberate reference, and that the Solo shooting script specifies: "There can be no question that Han shoots first."
In The Lego Star Wars Holiday Special (2020), which features characters from different time periods brought together through time travel, an older Han from The Force Awakens asks the younger Han from A New Hope if he wants to shoot first during an encounter with Greedo. He replies, "After you." Both men open fire simultaneously, before Greedo can react.
Notes
- Later titled Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope
- In Red River, John Wayne's character, Thomas Dunson, shoots and kills a Mexican whose boss Dunson admits he is stealing land from. The Mexican begins to draw just before Dunson, who then says he predicted his opponent's move "By watchin' his eyes."
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In the original versions ... it's clear that Han Solo pulled out his gun and shot the bounty hunter Greedo. In the 1997 version, Greedo shoots first. In the 2004 version, they shoot at the same time.
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