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	"hope that it continues until or unless the WMF decides to '''bad''' paid editing"

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	:Yes, thanks. More errors like that and I get keel-hauled by the League of Copy Editors. ] (]) 23:07, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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			My request to edit the article to use the word "massacre" is valid, legitimate and doesn't breach any EC restrictions.
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			Please clarify yourself on what restriction specificaly has been breached, and how. ] (]) 22:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
	Hey, thanks for your help with the DYK nom and especially for the cleanup in the article itself. I agree about deletion of the image for now, though I do think the deletion nomination was mistaken and I've taken up the issue on Commons. I enjoyed doing this, and in working on this article I found that this entire subject matter is really neglected by Misplaced Pages, so I hope to contribute in the area. ] (]) 18:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	: Glad to be of help. I'm no expert on screenshots from film trailers, so I can't help there - would if I could. After the DYK is finished, if you still need an image for the article, it might be worth looking at posters instead? Due to the dates of Miss McCracken's films, my guess is that her film posters would count as non-free here, but possibly you could still get a fair use template for a poster file page for this subject. If you haven't already done so, look at ]. You would need to write a rationale, to give full copyright details and authorship of the poster, and use this template: <nowiki>{{Non-free poster\|image has rationale=yes}}</nowiki>. But I repeat I'm not an expert, and it would be worth getting a second opinion as there have been recent changes. Of course you'll already know that fair-use images can't be used in DYK articles, so it would have to wait, anyway. I agree with you that it's a worthwhile article, with or without an image. We're all doing a public service here - something to be proud of. Good luck. --] (]) 20:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			:I happen to agree with you on the substance, as you may have noticed. However, you need to use the "Edit Request" form. I hate to be bureaucratic, but that is how things are on these pages. There is an edit request directly below the discussion I hatted. I can try to find the form if you don't have access to it. Then you can pretty much replicate what you said in the post that I hatted, though I would suggest that you boil it down a bit. Remember that an Edit Request has to be specific. In other words, you need to specify where in the article the word "massacre" should appear, etc. ] (]) 23:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
	::Thanks! Very good idea. I've posted a query at the film project, and I notice that images of deceased persons is an acceptable category (or something), but posters is an area I hadn't thought of. ] (]) 21:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:::That DYK sure got posted on the Main Page fast! You folks sure know how to encourage a guy. ] (]) 12:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
	:::: Congratulations! And having a popular-culture subject it should get a good number of hits for the DYK. I'm guessing that one reason for your article getting to DYK so fast is that we don't have enough regular DYK reviewers, so anything with a green tick is going to be taken up by admin fairly quickly. Maybe we reviewers should make more effort when we don't have DYKs of our own in the queue. I'm ashamed to say I'm no more heroic than anyone else in that respect. Researching new articles is too interesting!--] (]) 13:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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			My brain hadn't registered that Doing Weller's note was a year past; thought it was this January - the old December/January mind slip! ] (]) 05:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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	Hi Core. I'm just making small-talk as it's not an issue of importance to anything really, but I wouldn't label Mr. Gregory Kohs as a "paid editor". He said himself he doesn't make any real money doing it. Rather I would say that he is a POV pusher, who accepts paid jobs (I would posture) mostly out of spite for Jimmy Wales, who embarrassed him in the media many years ago and created this vendetta-type relationship. My two-cents.
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			:Good article, disturbing hook! ] (]) 13:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
	:On your second points I welcome any advice you may have to give. After all, you are paid to be here, a pro, while I am not! So by definition you manage your presence with greater care than one without a financial stake in the outcome. ] (]) 20:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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	I draw your attention to the words <i>"...such that all of these articles accurately describe the hate-filled vitriol...".</i> Wow - "ALL of these articles"?? I'd say that pretty well sums it up the bias, doesn't it? There is no distinction between extremist, or neutral in his response rather it appears to be a condemnation of anything considered to be anti-Islam. I won't deny there are instances when innocent people get lump-summed with the guilty, but that isn't always the case. There really are Islamic extremists who follow the Qu'ran and the Hadith literally. With regards to the other editor who reverted my edits on Choudary's bio, his only comment was that my edits did nothing to improve it. When you get a chance, will you please look at it? Also - is there a way to send you a private message, or is that feature disabled? <br>

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	Hello. I just want to know if it is legal or not. I see a lot of info, controversy, news, letters, but the things are not clear.
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	*Terms of Use ban paid edition?
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	**Why the another companies not?
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	**Why Wikimedia Foundation dont ban?
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	*All paid edition are covert advertising, and therefore, is forbidden in Europe, among Directive 2005/29/EC?
	*Are a future COI policy, or the actual guideline irrelevant because paid editing editors can argue ]?
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	Instead of responding, as I requested, on the "Fort Lee lane closure scandal" article to the content issues that I raised in the three links in the "Please respond" Talk that I opened earlier today on your Talk page, you go on my Talk page and make more false and unwarranted allegations and implied threats about my personal behavior on Misplaced Pages.

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	'''You are no longer welcome on my Talk page. If you post anything further on my Talk page, I will report you.''' ] (]) 16:45, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

	:Yes, I remember you said the same thing before you were blocked. ] (]) 16:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

	::Your statement about me making the "same statements" is inaccurate. They are new and updated statements based on new facts, your statements, and your actions. You are entitled to believe what you want to believe and even put it in writing. Others need to see if your beliefs are valid or contradictory to the documented facts. I am not here to argue with you about what you believe.

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	::: Good fellow editors alwys help amke that occasional problem editor bearable. ;-) Anyway, let's see what WP:AN/I comes up with: I'm hoping there is an alternative to simply banning him indefinitely, which is all my unimaginative mind can come up with. :-( -- ] (]) 17:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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My request to edit the article to use the word "massacre" is valid, legitimate and doesn't breach any EC restrictions. Please clarify yourself on what restriction specificaly has been breached, and how. Thewildshoe (talk) 22:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I happen to agree with you on the substance, as you may have noticed. However, you need to use the "Edit Request" form. I hate to be bureaucratic, but that is how things are on these pages. There is an edit request directly below the discussion I hatted. I can try to find the form if you don't have access to it. Then you can pretty much replicate what you said in the post that I hatted, though I would suggest that you boil it down a bit. Remember that an Edit Request has to be specific. In other words, you need to specify where in the article the word "massacre" should appear, etc. Coretheapple (talk) 23:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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My brain hadn't registered that Doing Weller's note was a year past; thought it was this January - the old December/January mind slip! Iskandar323 (talk) 05:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@Iskandar323 Dolng doing! Great typo. And that alert is out of date I believe as they can't use talk pages except for edit requests now. Doug Weller talk 07:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

New editors relying on the old alert may innocently fall afoul of the new restriction and might even be sanctioned for doing so. Perhaps there is some mechanized way of alerting them of the new rule. Also if the alert is out of date I imagine it would need to be fixed.

I think it would be helpful for talk pages of affected articles to state what new editors can and cannot do on those talk pages. Oddly, the current language doesn't say so. Coretheapple (talk) 15:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Maybe an even better idea is to go back to the old way. What is wrong with constructive comments? Coretheapple (talk) 22:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hey, can you expand the lead section a bit? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 17:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I've been off-wiki but I will give it a look. Coretheapple (talk) 20:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Aloha! Viriditas (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

That's a good suggestion, as I needed more of a description of the contents of the book. Coretheapple (talk) 21:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, can you take a look at Alvin J. Reines when you have time? I recently discovered his idea of polydoxy while working on the James A. Lindsay article. Apparently, there's a Christian theologian named David W. Congdon who points to polydoxy as a potential solution to the crisis in American Christianity. Did Reines come up with polydoxy or did he just incorporate it into his own concept of reform Judaism? Viriditas (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Found Polydoxy: Theology of Multiplicity and Relation (2010). Once again, academia is 50 years behind Alan Watts. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. It's hard to take any of these people seriously. Watts was talking about this in the 1960s. Viriditas (talk) 00:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

That's interesting. A bit beyond my area of expertise however. Coretheapple (talk) 14:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a Christian theologian! Just thought it was odd tracing the concept of polydoxy from 1987 to 2010, when Alan Watts and numerous others had been talking about this for years only to be ignored by academia. Now, it's suddenly acceptable, decades later, to talk about the same ideas. I've seen this thing play out over and over again. Viriditas (talk) 19:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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