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Block with. All project ] (]) 11:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC) |
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* Sorry, I'm not sure what this means. ] 11:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC) |
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This is the logged out, IP account of ]. What you found was not simple vandalism by a random IP editor but a fierce content dispute that spilled over to ]. Leprof said he didn't want to fight any longer and would no longer be editing that article so I don't see the point of a block for vandalism. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 20:00, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:The editor was blocked for ], not vandalism. Although repeatedly adding unsourced info to a BLP is also grounds for blocking. --] <sup>'']''</sup> 20:06, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:: I didn't realize there was a problem with reverting. And this particular dispute over a BLP is a mess. Old material, that he didn't add, was being challenged for being unsourced. I think the majority of articles on Misplaced Pages are not fully sourced although, I agree, this is a goal. But if you randomly check any BLP and I'm sure you will find statements that are not cited. This was a question of whether to preemptively delete old material that was unsourced or leave it and let editors find references to support these sections. In theory, any statement that is challenged can be removed but, in practice, there is a lot of biographical, unsourced information existing on Misplaced Pages which is left alone because it is not controversial. |
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:: What was unfortunate about this was that LeProf 7272 was trying to improve this article and somehow, it attracted the attention of other editors and then this entire thing exploded. He didn't react in a constructive way but I can imagine the frustration of making dozens of edits to an article over the course of a day and then have an editor unfamiliar with the subject come in and blank sections to what was a work-in-process. But at this point, it seems like the problem isn't the article but working peacefully with other editors which is an acquired skill. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 20:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Liz}} Sure, there's a lot of content on Misplaced Pages that is unsourced and left alone. However once material ''is'' challenged, a source needs to be found, especially in BLPs. This is pretty disgraceful for a BLP. A couple other points, LeProf 7272 made it clear he was expecting the original editors of the unsourced text to come in and add references. You and I know that's very, very, unlikely. Preventing the removal of uncited text and expecting others to find references is not constructive. Finally, LeProf 7272 has said he didn't write the original material. That's true, but he kept reverting back to it. If you keep on doing that, even after others have pointed out problems, then you are taking responsibility for that material and bearing the consequences of adding it back in. --] <sup>'']''</sup> 20:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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::::LeProf seems to be a fairly new user. Did anyone explain to them or warn them about ] rule and the consequences of breaking it? <b><font color="darkred">]</font></b> <font color="black">(])</font> 20:57, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:::::Looks like they weren't. They kept on threatening to go to admins they knew so I assumed they were somewhat experienced. However they did revert three times ''after'' I gave them a final warning for adding unsourced content. --] <sup>'']''</sup> 21:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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== Thomas Partey == |
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== ] == |
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Can you have a look at the antics at ] please? The short story is that the police have been investigating allegations made about a Premier League player and a file has been passed to the CPS but neither have named the individual (and they can’t due to privacy rules regarding the identification of suspects) meaning any sources naming anyone are conjecture. We have a young editor persisting adding the accusations to the article and talk page who will not stop. They have a CTOP notification. — ] (]) 21:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Thanks for protecting the article. I appreciate your advice to leave the category alone. The ethical dilemma I faced, of course, was that ] was telling me I was ''supposed'' to remove the category immediately. That seemed to be my duty as a Wikipedian... ]] (]) 21:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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* I know, and it's a difficult question, but with the CfD going on at this moment it would seem to be the prudent thing to do. ] (]) 21:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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* {{u|Malcolmxl5}} Indefinitely blocked and every edit revision deleted. I've also semi-protected the article. Thanks, ] 21:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*:Thanks. — ] (]) 21:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
