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== "Nationalist"? == |
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== Move protection == |
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{{ping|MusikAnimal}} Would you mind removing the move protection from the page? The edit war in question ended 8 years ago (and didn't really relate to the article title to begin with). The article's current title accords with the 2015 version of ]. It was at that time technically in violation of ] as well as the current Japan MOS. Since the article hasn't seen much controversy since the original content dispute in 2015, I don't think there'd be any reason moving the page to ] would be controversial or require discussion. ] (<small>]]</small>) 11:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC) |
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I removed the unqualified claim that he was a "nationalist" from the intro. One of the two sources cited was a 2006 PhD dissertation that was about about a religious and quasi-political ideology with which he was affiliated. The problem is that even though ''that'' source appears to be, in its brief coverage of the subject of this article, directly associating Kenji's politics with those of his co-religionists, it ''also'' specifies that hardly any other reliable sources make this connection. This means that the source is not sufficient for the claim that "Kenji Miyazawa was a nationalist"; it is sufficient for the statement "A minority of scholars have attributed nationalistic leanings to Miyazawa". The view is ]. I don't mean "fringe" in a derogatory sense. I just mean it is a view that is "not widely held among the academic community yet". Kenji scholars can duke this issue out in journal articles and scholarly books. If at some point the scholarly consensus becomes "Kenji was a nationalist" (i.e., a scholar makes the specific claim that this is the consensus view and is not called out by his/her peers) ''then'' we can add this statement to the article. ] (]) 13:42, 6 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:Hi Hijiri88, any page move that was previously controversial should be treated as a ]. The move protection can probably be lifted as you said, but I would be inclined to oppose moving this page (i.e. I do think "someone could reasonably disagree with the move"), so we may as well go through a normal RM discussion if necessary. ]<small>]</small> 02:15, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:Please refrain from deleting referenced sources. He was also a member of Kokuchūkai.--] (]) 13:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::I concur with the above. I will still remove the move protection, but ideally a proper ] discussion will still follow. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold">] <sup>]</sup></span></span> 18:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC) |