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And you may want to read . Or am I being too long? ] (]) 03:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
*I read it. Perhaps Spartaz can shed more light on it--maybe they have a suspicion, or gave it up. ] (]) 05:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, everybody is giving up. Do you see that last comment? . Do you see where that was inserted? And I wondered why on eart nobody cares nore for this nomination. Put it right in the middle of the starting info - so it looked like the whole thing was of. Bloody impudent. It makes absolutely no difference if lately the picture might been considered have a different painter. One might make a note later that it might be an other artist's work - or not. There are hundreds of great paintings like that, it doesn't matter. ] (]) 07:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Disruptive editors sometimes attempt to evade ] by using several practices when disrupting articles:


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* Their edits occur over a long period of time; in this case, no single edit may be clearly disruptive, but the overall pattern is disruptive.
== IP range block might need an update ==
* Their edits are largely confined to talk-pages, such disruption may not directly harm an article, but it often prevents other editors from reaching consensus on how to improve an article.
* Their edits often avoid gross breaches of ], by refraining from ], while still interfering with civil and collaborative editing meant to improve the article.
* Their edits remain limited to a small number of pages that very few people watch.
* Conversely, their edits may be distributed over a wide range of articles to make less probable that some user watches a sufficient number of affected articles.


Hi Drmies, this post is about the IPv6 range ] that you partially blocked for 1 week from editing AN/I. A little less than an hour later, ] actually site-blocked the singular IP in that range ] for a couple of days with no talk page access. Since then, like happens with many IPv6 connections, the user's IP address switched over to ] very shortly after, which allowed them to continue posting on that previous IP's talk page in spite of the previous IP's block with no talk page access. Given that this is technically block evasion, I'm thinking maybe the /64 rangeblock should be updated to a full one?
Nonetheless, such disruptive editing violates site policy. And have you heard of ]s? One of their interesting features is: #Creating disturbances on ] pages, e.g. objecting just to object. ... ] (]) 14:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
*{{U|Hafspajen}}, even if this person is a supreme irritator, I can't take administrative action for all the reasons I've indicated, and since I don't know this area very well I can't assess the situation in the first place. But I do have a suggestion, and I think you should take it: start an ]. That is the first step, regardless of what road we're on, for a situation like this one. I'll be glad to help, but you have to start this, and I suggest you read the guidelines and then think carefully about what to write up. ] (]) 23:00, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::Aha, brilliant. ] (]) 23:02, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


Regards, —&nbsp;] ] 01:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
*The point about the school of Raphael image that Hafs nominated was that it has a pronounced yellow colour cast as a result of the processing it had received. That's inevitable when you make these kinds of edits in RGB space equalising 10% or more of the histogram. I simply opposed it, quite vigorously it is true but then the issue had arisen before. It was Hafs' fankly aggressive response that provoked the drama and in the course of researching the history of the painting (not my period) I ascertained its true provenance and of course I commented that, in (and I'm afraid was likewise extremely aggressive, the plainest of personal attacks by any standard). I also took the trouble to upload to Commons an annotated file on the painting ] where I used a beautiful image by , the tinkering of another image by him of Manet's ''Olympia'' being the original source of all this drama.
*Yeah, I left a note for Cullen cause I had to run, but I'll go ahead and stop that yapping. Thanks, ] (]) 01:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
**Yeah, sorry Drmies, my wife and I had to pick up some prescriptions (we're 72), go to the hardware store as part of our ongoing battle against the rats, and stop at Target. We just got home. ] (]) 02:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***I took care of it. Rats? Brrrr. ] (]) 02:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***Yeah they are creepy and filthy and befoul any accessible food, but that's the least of it. They have twice chewed partly through ] fresh water lines in the crawl space under our house, which soaked a lot of insulation too. Very expensive chaos. Second incident discovered today. It's an ongoing debacle and I have a grudge against all rodents at this point. ] (]) 02:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***:{{yo|Cullen328}} Do you routinely distribute rodenticide in key locations? I do so weekly, and the problems are much improved. ] (]) 10:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:{{u|Deepfriedokra}}, we live in a semi-rural area with lots of beneficial wildlife like deer, rabbits and squirrels plus pets like cats and dogs, so pest control professionals prefer to avoid most poisons and rely on traps and repellents instead. There is also the hidden dead rat odor problem. We are going to start a very specialized product called RatX in the next few days. ] (]) 17:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::Oh Lord, rats are a horrible problem. Hope you can get rid of them. Do you guys have any cats? And I think that having a lot of insects and whatnot in your house is considered something of a way of life, but imo, definitely not true nowadays. My house suffers from a lot of ], and my family has been trying to use ] to try and stop them. Strong substance, perhaps, but definitely useful. ] (]) 17:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::I only use the poison in the house- behind stove, fridge, and washing machine. Fortunately they leave before dying. ] (]) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::I use road flares in their burrows outdoors. Close up as many holes as you can find except one, light the road flare and stick it fire side in and cover it up. Carbon monoxide takes care of it. Keeping livestock I have a significant rat population outside that I have to keep in check. As for inside, cats. ] (]) 18:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::{{ec}} Like Cullen, we too live in a rural area. Fortunately, we haven't had any rats (one bat, though - and that was horrible), but we do have mice. Don't know if they'll work with larger rodents, but we leave sticky traps for the mice in our garage, and, thus far, that keeps them out of the house, killing them before they can enter.--] (]) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::Is that better than roaches, {{U|Bbb23}}? ] (]) 19:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::::You'd think an indoor pit bull would prevent rats. She does not. ] (]) 18:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::::Need a ratter, not a big dog. My little lady kills quite a few rats outside. ] (]) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::::Mice are stupid and don't get too trap averse. Much more difficult to trap rats long term. With mice I've found a bucket trap to be very effective. A 5 gallon bucket with a ramp leading to the top. Fill it halfway with water, then cover the water with sunflower seeds. The mice climb up and hop in to get the seeds and can't get out. ] (]) 19:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::::I do think cats make good pets too. They're good at catching mice and rats, as well as defeating snakes. I'm sure the reaction time of a cat is about 20-44 milliseconds compared to a snake which has like 44-70 milliseconds. I also think that cats are the general predator of snakes. But staying on topic, I do feel like it would be best to have a cat as a pet (I certainly don't have a cat, though) for catching rats. ] (]) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


==Top AfC Editor==
:And now we have this issue of Renoir's ''Bal du moulin de la Galette'', where I pointed out (as a comment, not as an oppose) that the image nominated was in fact not the holding museum's image (as claimed I mean in the file description). When I nominated that as an Alt, a Google Gigaplex image if you please, following another long established editor's objection to the original that it lacked resolution, more drama culminating in a withdrawal of the nomination in what can only be described as , ensued on the grounds, if you please, that the Google Gigaplex image's colours were inauthentic. And what is droll is that in this case too there seems a real possibility that the image nominated was in fact of an earlier version famously auctioned in 1990 for a record price at the time. I can't comment because I've never seen the painting, but I have ordered the relevant catalogue (I collect them anyway and this is something of a collector's piece) and I shall likewise upload an image of painting to Commons when I receive it if there's one suitable (though unfortunately these major efforts are generally illustrated with fold outs which can't really be scanned effectively).
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:What piques me about this is that following the original drama this editor love-bombed ], the only way I can describe it, in a way that ultimately made me uncomfortable. And then finally this, .
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*I was, ]?? I had no idea--I think that also shows that it would be good if more people got involved with it. I think the backlog is creeping towards 2,000 again. Anyway, thanks: I appreciate it! ] (]) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
*:@], you probably wouldn't have been if we had an actual full year of data (that data is just from the last month or so). But if you kept up that same pace through the whole year... yeah, maybe you still would be. We truly need all the help we can get. -- ] (]) 18:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


== Season's Greetings ==
:It worries me that if this drama exceeds its local boundaries, it really wouldn't be difficult to identify me. Not at all because I'm a celebrity or anything of the sort, but nevertheless if all this were seen by a number of former colleagues, one of which at least I know edits Misplaced Pages quite actively, then certainly I would be identified, and that would be a very considerable embarrassment indeed for me.


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: I would be glad therefore if you discouraged Hafs from this kind of activity. And in any case I'm awaiting the resolution of another matter not related to this or Misplaced Pages, and after some possibly concluding edits, I shall probably cease editing Misplaced Pages, or at least rarely contributing. Editing at Commons seems to be a gentlelady's pursuit, at Misplaced Pages my experience is not. ] (]) 23:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
'''Hello Drmies:''' Enjoy the ''']'''&#32;and ''']''' if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, ] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 06:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:*Hafspajen wears his heart on his sleeve. I can't tell him to wear it anyplace else. As I've said before, I simply don't know enough about this entire process, so I can't decide, for instance, if nominating an alternate picture is acceptable or disruptive. The only thing I know is that I like Hafspajen and he's clearly disturbed by your behavior--whether he's right or wrong I'm not sure but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, though I wish he didn't care so much.<p>Now, I've known Hafspajen for a number of years, and I don't know you from Adam, so I'm not a very good candidate to tell him on your behalf what he should do. If he's the only one who's bothered by your comments in those FP discussions, then maybe he should reconsider, but if he's not, then perhaps a community discussion (which is what an RfC/U is--it's not some process that ends with a block or a ban, quite the opposite) is helpful. At the very least, I'd like to hear from some other people, privately or otherwise, whether his concerns have any validity to them or not: I have no interest in judging when I am not a judge and don't understand or know the evidence. And that's really all I have to say right now, to both of you I suppose.<p>Oh, one last thing: your "identity" should not be of interest, at least not your real-life identity, and I trust that no one here will consider outing you or anyone else. Whether you have been here before, wearing a different coat, that may be of interest, but let no one start fishing around for your name and job title, and cause embarrassment. Thank you, ] (]) 23:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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<div style="padding-left: 2em; margin-top: 1em; font-size: 88%; font-style: italic">Spread the WikiLove; use {{tls|Season's Greetings}} to send this message</div>{{-}} --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 06:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


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*Trying to be nice with somebody is not a crime. Yes, I tried to be nice, but I also told C.o.m.c. not to do this kind of things, but it went on and I couldn't stop it. If one wants to participate in the project - ANY project - first - one has to be respectful, show respect for others edits, leave place for all the editors participating, one or two lines of comment in a polite neutral way is QUITE enough. One has to make intelligent, calm, moderate comments, and not starting throwing around words like ''horrible'' and ''silly'' and such. This kind of comment is not a comment but crap, a five year old can say things like this. Also showing respect for other peoples edits, you edited MY edits, changed files, and so on. Everybody knows one should not to start editing others works, others nominations - if not asked. Also it is important not to overwhelm everything with loads of comments because it is scaring away the other editors who just see it as problems - and stop participating in the nomination. The goal is that everybody should be able to participate. And yes, the so called '''what seems to me a frank threat'' - using big words again - it was simply meant - you will lose respect and appreciation, if you go on like this. I am not interested in real life identity at all, who cares. But after all this not so constructive discussion I might be interested in that fact, as Drmies said: '' whether you have been here before, wearing a different coat, that may be of interest''. ] (]) 00:46, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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Hello Drmies, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!.
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== Happy Holidays ==
{{ec}}The kind of language you used in the Featured picture candidates nomination WAS NOT AS YOU SAY: '''''an entirely neutral and non-challenging way''''' , NO, it was like: ''horrible'', a ''kind of art botox'', ''just silly'', ''inauthentic'', and ''derisory'', and you're ''wilfully not going to get the point'' , ''Chto xudshee sanskrtiskee akkcentee ya kagdee-libo slishal'' and the rest of similar expressions as: '''chocolate botox kitsch of trusty old DCoetzee's restoration''' and other personal attacs like '''he tries his hand at wit and subtlety, then he must expect me to respond in kind''' - should not be alowed to be used more in any nominations, not here, not anywhere. It is framed in with red: Please remember to be civil, ... to comment on the image, not the person. Which is why we have "All objections should be accompanied by a specific rationale''. The above is not a specific rationale. ] (]) 00:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::* Regarding ], a requirement is that he should already have been on my page to resolve the issue. He has, , he responded with a threat and came here. That should worry you. You're welcome to love him to pieces of course. For what it's worth, my experience of life is that people who wear their hearts on their sleeves usually have some sort of agenda tucked away upfront in their pants. You're right about not knowing me (as far as I know, I mean who can tell with the anonymity thing, but then I wouldn't be editing at all without that). ] (]) 00:52, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


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:::* {{U|Coat of Many Colours}}, may I request that you explain in language that is not veiled what exactly you mean in your comment just above re: ''people who wear their hearts on their sleeves''... I allow this courtesy before I read it how I wish. Referring to what is ''tucked away upfront in their pants'' sounds alarmingly misguided in courteous talk page discussion. Please convince me otherwise. Thanks. ] ] 15:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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:::::* It's a ''bon mot''. I often wonder where they come from myself. Do you have shares in Hafs BTW? I see you're , which really was meant as sort of peace offering. (*Sigh*) just don't seem to be able to do anything right any more these days. ] (]) 16:52, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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::::*No, C.o.m c. what you say above is not true. You see a threat where is nothing of the kind, that's one. I came here after you edited MY NOMINATION so it looked like you were in charge and YOU had the responsability of dismissing it, NOT ME, you treated it like you had the right to insert this kind of text there. '''WHERE YOU PUT THAT TEXT - THAT is the NOMINATOR's part'''. Do you see that last comment? . After all this you just put a big remark in the middle of the information about the artwork. That was when I had enought. And when you kept reverting my edits when I decided am going to witdraw it but you and won't let me do that. It is my nomination, I can witdraw it if I decide that. If I wan't to remove it it is not up to you to revert me. AND on top of everything you go and nominate the '''very same picture again''', the one that I witdraw. Yes I think it is disturbing and disruptive and disrespectful - sorry. ] (]) 01:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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::::* "Do you see that last comment? ." Yes I did. You deleted an edit I made indicating the proper provenance of this painting. You were very aggressive in my estimation. I shan't continue here.] (]) 01:18, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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I didn't deleted it, I '''moved''' it, down, as a last comment, where it belongs. '''''WHERE YOU PUT THAT; THAT is the NOMINATOR's part. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO THERE.''''' After that you got the ansver you try to make it sound like the way you did above, you say: ''I'm afraid the response was likewise extremely aggressive, the plainest of personal attacks by any standard''. Really ? That came after all this happened FIRST:
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'''Hello Drmies, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this ]. Spread the ] by wishing another user a ] and a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. <br />Happy editing,'''<br />
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:* After you attacked Crisco. (in the same way, for Olympia - it is all in the ])
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== May Sinterklaas be good to you ... ==
:*After you changed the picture I nominated.


Please leave your wooden shoes out for him to fill with presents.
:*After you used the above language in the nomination, not a calm rationale but ''horrible'', a ''kind of art botox'', ''just silly'', ''inauthentic'', and ''derisory''.
:*After you put a giant distracting big picture in the nomination that had nothing to do with it, bigger then the nominated picture. I remove it and you put that back, and refused to remove it, even after you were asked twice. It was an administrator had to remove it, because you won't do that.


Have a good one, Doc, and thanks for filling our wiki-lives with cheer.
:* After you were editwarring with me trying to force not to withdraw a nominantion 'I wrote above: '''Withdrawn nomination''', with big letters - something you call here: ''' can only be described as a fit of screaming pique''. Oh, really? Reverting twice my witdrawal how can that be described??


Love, ] (]) 01:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:*After you were nominating MY nominated picture that just got withdrawn
*Oh ], that is very nice of you--thank you very much. I assume you set your shoe too? Don't forget to put a carrot in there, right? That reminds me: I'll be making oliebollen for New Year's. All the best to you and yours, and thanks for sticking around and helping out on our beautiful project. ] (]) 23:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
**Ah, ] are a new one on me! Here in Hawaii, we have a doughnutty thing called ]s, which are eaten all year round, just like ]! Have a great New Year! ] (]) 00:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)


== About your block of Ayomikun445 ==
:*And after I discovered that you started editing in an other nomination the very ''' nominators text area''' (my nominations ) : YES, I did said: ''Don't you make comments in the MIDDLE OF THE nomination text, got that'' because I got enough.


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*I'm on it. ] (]) 15:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


== DCAU page ==
And you are not coming here to say - ''sorry this the above was wrong'' - you come here with a preposterous idea that '' then finally this, what seems to me a frank threat''. That remark you are reffering to was the following :''I don't like what you do. You may win the war, but you may lose something else''. That remark was not a threat. I meant exactly what I said - you will lose goodwill. It was '''''':''''. Is that a threat? I don't think so. A warning - yes, threat - no.


Hi! I'm currently engaged in an edit war with a user who believes that two films released in 2017 and 2019 are canon to an animated universe of TV shows from 1992-2006. I've provided multiple clear as day sources from the people who worked on these that show this isn't the case.
:And the way you go on like this it shows very well what kind of new atmosphere we have at the nominations. I don't like the way the words are used, I don't like the uncivil comments. I don't like the way Crisco has been attacked, I don't like the way I have been treated. When I make some remark or criticism, I try not to interfere with the votings, at least, unless it is some real big mistake going on. There was one picture, I didn't liked Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Skull with cigarette by Vincent van Gogh, but I waited until it got its votes with my comments. You maybe don't bother much but you destroyed at least two nominations like this. ] (]) 01:20, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::You may not bothered much, but you were showing quite an attitude towards {{U|Crisco 1492‎}} - one of the best editors on the project too. That did disturbed me - to start with. But I tried to be nice, anyway. ] (]) 02:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


You can read it here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:DC_Animated_Universe#Article_Cleanup ] (]) 23:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*I tried to read that: it's clear as mud. But yes you are in the middle of an edit war, and you really need to stop. If you want that talk page discussion, and your editing career, to go anywhere, you might could try making smaller edits and explaining them on the talk page--briefly, with sources. ] (]) 23:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*Blanking your talk page is not a good idea. ] (]) 23:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*], is this your only account? ] (]) 23:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*:Yes. I had a previous account a while back that I lost my password too.
*:The person who I'm having an edit war with literally went and removed my sources, while his sources are non-existent or incredibly flimsy. ] (]) 20:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== With respect to Bai Jingting ==
:* <nowiki></nowiki>. ] was promoted. I supported it. The only point of the few edits I made there was to smooth over ruffled feathers. I took the trouble first to stitch the VGM tiles and secondly to supply a file description at ]. We have been here before Hafs . The difference is that when I hurt I kick my tormentor in the bollocks. Really last from me. Let me know if you find a new matron's apron to weep into. ] (]) 02:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi, I seen few deletion, need clarity to improve.
1. For Philanthropic activity the source 8th line mentions artist name, need to understand why the source is doubtful.
2. If "features" is wrong vocabulary could it be replaced with other word? As new writer I observed many articles already accepted those details from years. Need to understand how to represent here with proper writing. ] (]) 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
*Not every time someone is mentioned in some competition they're "featured". If someone is featured it means they get a special placement, and there is no evidence at all that this is what is happening here. Yes, it's a buzzword now used for every guest performance and appearance, and we need to fight back, like linguistic warriors. I don't really know what you mean with "source 8th line", but if you're talking about , it's pretty obvious to me that that gossipy glossy website is NOT an acceptable, neutral, independent source for BLPs. Thanks, ] (]) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
**Thanks for the reply. For Philanthropic activity link <ref>{{Cite web |title=持续更新！汪峰章子怡林志玲黄晓明等为河南暴雨捐款 |url=https://ent.ifeng.com/c/883OdhBmV5C |access-date=2024-12-17 |website=ent.ifeng.com |language=zh}}</ref> was used. 8th line suggest artist donation towards natural disaster. It was removed stating doubtful. If we mention actual ranks of few listings, instead of "feature" I hope it's fine provided link attached is not from gossip site and provides enough evidence. ] (]) 23:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
***What 8th line? I see five lines, and then some weird image that took me 26 clicks on "Page Down" to get through--and then there's comments. Anyway, I see his name is mentioned, along with dozens of others, on a website that at best looks like a gossipy site for fans of entertainers. Whatever that site is, it's not publishing journalism; please see ]. How much did he even give? Or did the record company give a few bucks in his name, to add to his resume? Who knows? ] (]) 02:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
***Oh you mean the seventh line of that picture with a list of donors--who knows what that picture is, and what its authority is. Again, that's not how we operate here. It's too easy to manipulate pictures, and there's no source or context--"according to incomplete statistics" actually expresses part of the problem well. ] (]) 02:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


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::Yes the title '''''has been factored''''' as you express it - because it was an other one just exactly the same that confused the bot. What's wrong with it? Is it a crime or an offense for real - or you just try to make it sound like it, like the remarks above? And yes the ''Skull with cigarette'' - it was promoted because I did not interfered with it - not before it had five votes, as much as needed to be promoted. If I was not waiting patiently with expressing my comments it would have gone down the drain, for sure, 100%. BUT YOU have succeded to destroy several nominations by '' opposing it vigurously'' - as you say yourself: '''''I simply opposed it, quite vigorously it is true''''' - well, you did, and not only that but all the rest above. Nobody has to belive me, it is all in the ] project pages. ] (]) 02:35, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::And a last thing. The picture mentioned above did ''not'' had ''a pronounced yellow colour cast as a result of the processing it had received'' - it looks like that - just as yellow in the original. ] (]) 03:45, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


== You are being discussed here ==
::*And yes, I am very much interested to start an ]. ] (]) 12:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::* You were on my Talk page rather a lot these past few weeks. I would come down in the morning to check my email and find another dozen messages from you. I trust you agree I responded courteously enough, and of course I was flattered. Now I see you are engaged in the process of reverting your kisses on that page and that's OK. But I've already told you I think you have overstayed your welcome there and I don't want to see any further interaction other than, what would be courteous, giving me a heads up about your complaints you make about me in various forums, this by no means being the only such. ] (]) 17:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::I won't. But I have to tell you two things. 1) You said, you felt it was too much. 2) I did not reverted it as you say above, I '''changed''' it to a smiley. It was entirely because you said you were not confortable with it. And you said you won't reply. ] (]) 17:59, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
===Additional question on behavioural problem===
::Thank you for this edit. . ] (]) 20:41, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::Also Drmies, please remove those pictures, with the unpolite ''"Hafs' trusty old DC"'' comment on it. If anyone is interested in the discussion, there is a much more complete version here - ]. Also it would be appropiate to remove them from here: ] - it has nothing to do with the Munch Scream. ] (]) 20:48, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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] ] ] 16:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Fascist government of Ukrain finally dismantled: Jatsenjoek resigned ==
*Very exciting, Doug--thanks! ] (]) 19:54, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
For your information, and since you made a post on my 'talk' page about my usage of the phrase "fascist Kiev government", let me share you some good news. The fascist government of Jatsenjoek finally resigned! Enough of the bloodshed and financial crisis and attacks on the standard of living of the people of the Ukrain! They will elect a new government in october this year. It will be released now soon enough what hands the Ukrain fascists had in this airplane crash (they have not released their data - e.g. radio communication with the airplane - about the crash, all they come with is false allegations without proof), which killed more then 280 people, of which 193 of the Netherlands. We know they have blood on their hands! ] (]) 19:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
** {{tpw}} ] ]!!! ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 20:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*I'm sorry--you must have wanted to post this on my VKontakte page. <joke>But Mother Russia and Father Stalin will be happy with your message, no doubt.</joke> ] (]) 20:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
*** A tremendous amount of truly reprehensible stuff does happen on this talk page. However, in my opinion, none thus far had been quite so egregious as using the word "revenant". That said, I myself understood the word immediately by way of it being the true and accurate translation from the Danish of the title of Ibsen's '']''. -- ] (]) 05:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
*Ha. After I saw what you posted on ], now removed as chit-chat, perhaps someone will block you for that. I won't, cause I am done for now, but you clearly violated a guideline that you were well aware of. If it happens again I will certainly block you. Thank you, ] (]) 20:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
****Hey I just learned a new word. ] (]) 16:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::Had to come by and say hi simply after seeing that section title on my watchlist. Everybody's a nazi in Ukraine, that's been my conclusion from twitter.--''']''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">]</span></sup></small> 20:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
**** Well, {{yo|Softlavender}}, a joke explained is not much of a joke. But what I meant by using the word was precisely a reference to the Danish sense in that the ghost of the quite dead argument had been revived by a (now blocked) user who started the (now closed) discussion. Let us hope for the new year that the argument inappropriately raised from the dead remains in the grave to which it was returned and that no further sticks are raised. Heaven forfend that I should post reprehensible stuff on this hallowed site. ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 14:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah, tis an attention getter. "Twitter"--I know what it is, I just don't believe it has an independent existence outside of TV programs reporting on what someone Twittered. ] (]) 22:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Oh, well, you know--{{U|Yngvadottir}} took the bull by the horns. Thank you Yngvadottir. ] (]) 22:55, 24 July 2014 (UTC) *****Let the dead bury their dead. ] (]) 15:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== ]/] and others ==
== AN ==


Thought they had given up and taken a new hobby, but nope... Here is this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:67D4:8700:461:2CED:6508:F5E3), for instance continuing with the transfer speculation at ] (and reinserting their ref that "supported" ] winning the title last season by mentioning a ] match!!), duly reverted! Ah, with a completely polite and encyclopedical edit summary, so let's see what their reply will be (because they WILL reinstate their version again!)...
Hi,


Happy 2025, take care ] (]) 16:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
I posted an appeal of topic ban you issued to me at AN (). All the best.--] (]) 16:00, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


Edit warring started already, please intervene (you or somebody) ASAP! --] (]) 17:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Even though you will be notified because i highlighted your username... ==
*], ], can you please have a look, given your experience with ]? Thanks, ] (]) 19:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*], I found another one (User:Lazaric12), and removed some of that awful content. Take care old friend! ] (]) 16:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! ==
...please read and/or participate in here (http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Dennis_Brown#PANHEAD2014_block). Vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasco!


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*Haha thanks, {{U|Mz7}}--and I just hit you with a +2! ] (]) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{U|Bbb23}}, happy new year, and how is it that you are thanked more than me??? I thought I was the good cop! ] (]) 15:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
**It's a conspiratorial ploy by the perps to cozy up to the bad cop.--] (]) 16:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
***Shoot I just thanked ] for an edit, and she was already ahead of me. ] (]) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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:::* As explained on my talk, I hope I do more real thank-you than lazy click-thanks ;) - Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). --] (]) 18:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 09:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== "]" listed at ] ==
Was looking at some ZZ Top and curious as to some redirect (steak and snake) and found that we are redirecting Tube Steak -> hot dog. Now, I'm pretty sure that if a burly man walks up and says he wants to give you a tube steak, he isn't going to hand you a ]. Not sure if this needs an RFC, but topics of this nature are your specialty, so I wanted to throw it on your lap to fix. I'm busy, about to make some crab cakes, broiled shrimp over saffron rice and garlic cheese bread. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 20:14, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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*How should I know anything about tube steak? I mean, it means "dick", but do you really want to redirect it to "penis"? And go easy on the garlic bread: you ''know'' all those refined carbs aren't good for you. I'm ] tonight. ] (]) 20:48, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 1#Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Traditional monarchy (2nd nomination)}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::Now my planned dinner for tonight of roast chicken with white rice sounds really boring.--] (]) 22:01, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Guess that's gonna be for tomorrow night. A bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken just came through the front door.--] (]) 22:20, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:*Tube steak is also a slang word for "hot dog" though I don't think its in much current use for that meaning anymore. It is attested on p. 1013 of ''The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English'' (2008 ed.), which also lists "penis" as a second meaning.. However, this confusion can make old articles like these amusing.--''']''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">]</span></sup></small> 21:08, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::*Milowent, answer honestly: were you User:Tubesteak? ] (]) 21:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::*Well, I don't know if this should go elsewhere. Maybe penis is the best place to go. And Milowent, that tremendous tube steak of yours, I mean the one you referenced of course, was it ? ] (]) 21:15, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::*This talk page never fails to make me giggle and still see the relevance in the discussion.--] (]) 21:18, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::*] could do with a photo. Anyone fancy cooking one? ] (]) 21:19, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::::*Oh, man. That puts the Bacon whatchamacallit to shame. {{U|Kelapstick}}, are you aware of this? ] (]) 21:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::*Shawarmtastic! My left arm went numb thinking about it. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 22:14, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::*I'm not clicking on that link! And I hereby disclaim being ]. My earliest edits were indeed in 2007, but that was when I feared editing. I think redirecting it to hot dog is fine, it was a legitimate use in the 1960s-80s at least. And in the internet age, every word will eventually also be a sexual euphemism, so we can't just redirect 4.5 million articles to penis and such. BTW, I just googled images of ] (with my eyes half-shaded just in case), but boy that looks tasty.--''']''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">]</span></sup></small> 21:26, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::*That is why I drop stuff like this here, for people may giggle, but they still see the serious question behind it. I'm still not sure where it should redirect, but a discussion here ''might'' eventually come up with a good argument. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 21:45, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::{{like}}--] (]) 21:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
* Hmmm...the most common use of "tube steak" is indeed for a hotdog. I used to be involved in some pretty cheap pRon, and "tube steak" was never ever in the dialogue - although I've heard it occasionally used in a puerile manner <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 22:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
**Ok, I will ask: wtf do you mean by "I used to be involved in some pretty cheap pRon"? Are you really Ron Jeremy? You can't just say that without providing enough details so that we can judge you. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 00:18, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::: Well, I'm better-looking and darker-skinned than the porcupine, but you're pointing in the right direction. Hey, I grew up in a small, poor country ... education isn't cheap <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 00:26, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::::See, now I'm just jealous. I never had the muscular body for that. But then, neither did Jeremy. Anyway, getting back to the point, I've never heard a hot dog being called tube steak. I accept it was, and we have a couple of rather hilarious citations above proving it was, that is just new to me. I didn't hear it much regardless, but when I did only as a dick joke. For instance, in Cheech and Chong's Next Movie, I'm wanting to say it was Red (Cheech as his own cousin) that said "I got you a tube steak smothered in underwear", which spawned a small smutculture around that phrase, which I tried to link but it appears both are blacklisted. Probably a good thing. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 00:43, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::: Yeah, Cheech and Chong also did "you ordered a pepperoni pizza? Well here's your pizza, *unzip* and here's your pepperoni!" (which is sadly very similar to a line I once performed). They did a lot of turn-food-into-drug-or-sex jokes <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 10:05, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::"Ain't that a peach" is another example from Next Movie. Drmies needs to start ] with all this gold. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 12:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::: I heard pizza? Good news from ], for a change, I call it peace music, --] (]) 14:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::::Dennis, write it yourself. It's in the same realm of culture and importance as that muscle car of yours. Gerda, I have yet to hear good news from the Ukraine: I read the list of victims, with brief bios, in ''de Volkskrant''--and I was selfish enough to feel relief that I knew no one on that list. ] (]) 14:46, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::::: You are right, Drmies. I know, however, victims of a war here, and appreciate ]. The heart-warming hook was not taken but appears on my user page, --] (]) 15:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::*And a lot more civilized than Dennis's tube steak. ] (]) 16:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::::::* Nichts gegen ], - see the ]. Also admire his civilized AN close, - same players as in the article history. --] (]) 22:44, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::::*Gerda is entirely too kind to me. And thanks for the talk page space Drmies. I was serious about whether or not those redirects were proper, and now I know. I ''won't'' be using that slang term to describe my Ball Park dawgs, however. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 00:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::: Cheech and Chong have nothing on the finest lines from any movie, anywhere: ]
::::::: '''Frank''': "Nice beaver"
::::::: '''Jane''': "Thanks, I just had it stuffed"
:::::: Now that's some funny shit <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 20:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


== Mail ==
== 18th-century Dutch Patriot -red link ==


{{You've got mail}} ] (]) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
]
''The Keeshond was named after the 18th-century Dutch ], ] (spelled 'Gijzelaar' in Modern Dutch), leader of the rebellion against the ]. The dog became the rebels' symbol; and, when the House of Orange returned to power, this breed almost disappeared. The word 'keeshond' is a compound word: 'Kees' is a nickname for Cornelius (de Gyselaer), and 'hond' is the Dutch word for dog''.


== Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey) ==
::Nothing on the patriot? ] (]) 20:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


:::{{tps}} ]. Not much, but there are two sources. And so much for modern spelling. (awwwww, doggie!) ] (]) 20:34, 25 July 2014 (UTC) The article for ] definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. ] (]) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*Happy New Year, {{U|Alansohn}}. I hope there are, and I hope they're grrrreat. That article was a bit excessive. ] (]) 00:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Sockpuppet ==
::You are so smart, Yngvadottir. Correct link. ] (]) 20:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
*Not a redlink anymore, but not much of an article yet. ] (]) 21:27, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
*{{U|Xanthomelanoussprog}}, I don't agree, ''pal'', with those edits in . At the very least, you should ask for someone to oversight the edit summary: those are not copy edits (in the first paragraph), they are just yo personal opinion, man. Booyakasha. Now, howz about fixing some categories for me there, hey? I mean, eh? ] (]) 21:53, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
http://www.petwave.com/Dogs/Breeds/Keeshond/Overview.aspx - dog ref. ] (]) 22:06, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::What categories? Citrus fruits? (you can tell he's an opponent of Oranges, as he is sucking a Lemon) ] (]) 06:55, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== Lack of response? ==
:Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally ''the'' minute I sent this lol. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! ] (]) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. ] (]) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...{{pb}}Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. ] (]) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== 120.21.0.0/16 ==
Hi, Drmies! I just saw your comment about me on ], and I have to admit I'm puzzled and confused... What lack of response are you talking about? Was I supposed to respond to someone and I failed to do so?
I saw your comment on my talk page, I realized where I have failed and, as you saw, I took no further action on your edits at ]. Did I have to do anything more than that? You didn't mention anything. Please, assist me on this, 'cause I'm really at a loss here. Respectfully, ] (]) 13:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
*Thanks for your note here, CostaDax: all I was looking for was a kind of "OK", but all I saw was that you deleted the message. In wikispeak that means "I read it", of course, but I thought it was a somewhat serious matter that warranted a comment. (I see now that that's how you "archive" your talk page...?) Anyway, I understand now that you understand, and that's all I'm looking for ({{U|Bgwhite}}, disregard my comment). Thanks, ] (]) 14:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for your response. I take for granted that you are more experienced than me, and I'm always willing to listen to more experienced editors. And just so I can explain a little more why I included that passage on ]:
::*the passage came from a ] from BBC America which can be found here:
::*I read on ] that "while press releases are by nature intended to be reproduced widely, there is no inherent permission to alter them or create derivative works based on them, or to use them for commercial purposes". That's the reason why I did not alter it.
::*the reason I did write it in the first place, was because it has been so widely reproduced (even released as such by BBC America on facebook: ), that I assumed that it is considered part of the ]; according to ], the copyrights do no longer hold for works "that were released into the public domain by the copyright holder".
::Maybe I misunderstood the instructions and maybe I made the wrong assumptions. But I did not intend to violate any principles and guidelines. I just did what I thought was compliant with Misplaced Pages's policy.
::I'm glad that you contacted me, I just couldn't realize why you did what I thought was an attempt by you to chastize me. In any case, I know now that you did not have any intention to do so, and I'm glad. I hope this offers a bit more insight on my actions (and general philosophy), and that it clears the air. Take care! ] (]) 14:56, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::*Ha, yes--you may not alter them, etc. and are to be treated like other copyrighted content, "and may not be freely reproduced". That they print it all over the place does not mean it's released into the public domain, though; if it is released as such, it's usually accompanied by a notice of some sort. Well, this is my understanding, anyway: if I'm wrong one of the many helpful talk page stalkers will set me straight quickly, I suspect. Thanks again, ] (]) 15:08, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::**<small>(standard disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.)</small> You're more or less right, Drmies. This is a thing that many many people don't realize, but "]" is a very specific term in copyright jargon, and it does ''not'' just mean "the domain of things that are available to the public". One can release things to the public while retaining copyright all the time--which is why music/movie/etc. piracy is illegal, even though the works in question are being distributed widely; the copyright holders own and maintain their copyrights over the work even as they're distributing it. "Releasing something into the public domain" means that one relinquishes ''all'' rights to it permanently, and it takes more than simply making something available to the public to do that. One has to ''explicitly'' state that they're releasing all their rights to a work; disseminating one's work widely isn't the same thing. It's simply just a case of unfortunate linguistic coincidence that causes the confusion, I think. ]&nbsp;]] 21:23, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::::*I think I made a mistake like that early in my career, thinking that since something (an image, or a photograph, can't remember) was on the internet, it was OK to use. It wasn't. Funny, though: we seem to be the only ones on the entire internet to take this seriously. ] (]) 22:37, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at ], and there are no deleted contributions. ] (]) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== ] Deletion ==
*Hey {{U|Nyttend}}--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. ] (]) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
**Thanks for the response. This response makes sense, and the email was great; thank you. ] (]) 19:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Advice needed ==
You deleted such informative article it is a part of history it was the first digital anime magazine ever built, plus its free and no business occurs. Without the information from Misplaced Pages everybody could just claim that they are the first to launch a free digital anime magazine. Please participate in regaining the article its serious. Don't accuse an article to be an advertisement if its free and a non-business society do you even read the sources? You also deleted it without any warnings, please state your side. --] (]) 17:44, 26 July 2014 (UTC)-- ]
12:39, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*It was a Facebook page; calling it a magazine is a bit of an exaggeration. You have no proof, by the way, that this was the first digital anime magazine, but more importantly, the article met all the qualifications for speedy deletion (see ]); administrator {{U|Randykitty}} deleted ] as advertising, a decision I agree with since it is written as a promotional piece, not a neutral, well-verified encyclopedic article (there were no sources). That the advertised product is free is irrelevant. Now, I didn't "warn" you because I didn't nominate it for speedy deletion; that was {{U|Largoplazo}}, whose notification is on your talk page, surrounded by similar notifications. Thank you, ] (]) 18:30, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per ], airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== Request advice ==
*Hmm I disagree: they were warned by multiple editors, and the content is unsourced. I was going to ask about talk page consensus, but there is project-wide consensus... ] (]) 22:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Okay. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 23:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Football sock ==
Hi, Drmies. I have a question regarding Dan56. As you know, we clashed at a couple of articles last month, and I subsequently took some time off and tried to edit pages that he doesn't. The problem is, no matter how little I interact with him, every time we cross paths he accuses me of following him, . I feel that he is inappropriately crying wolfhound every time I edit a page that he edits. What should I do, because as much as I try to avoid him, I am getting really frustrated by his repeated accusation that I "follow him" for some reason. I think that his continued actions in this regard constitute personal attacks that harm my reputation. What should I do? I also welcome input from {{u|Malik Shabazz}}. ] (]) 18:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
*], I find this whole thing odd. Why would someone go around and canvass (OK, "invite") a hundred people for an FAC and and RfC? Some clicking around is insightful. The was not supported by two "outsiders" ({{U|Maunus}} and {{U|Simon Burchell}}), the latter of which says "it's not a problem if an FAC has stagnated". But while it may be true that some were sent while there was little activity at the FAC, there were others that were sent out on the 28th, right after Froglich's comments. See ]. (BTW, if {{U|Dan56}} is looking at this, that was a lousy, lousy way to handle an oppose. Not just lousy in the sense of bad tactics--it's not an FA--but also just shitty, in that you seem to accuse a valid oppose of judging on the base of personal blah blah, and I don't see that there: awful wikilawyering.)<p>I find this habit of sending out these invitations to be odd and bothersome. A note on the project page, that should be enough. And look at who those invites went to--who on earth would send a note about an FA review to Werieth (hey, {{U|Betacommand}}, how you doing?), who doesn't know FA from FU and may never have made a content edit in their life under any of their accounts? Strange. ] (]) 21:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
**I'm not sure what to suggest. As I mentioned last time, some editors who have had problems with Dan in the past have discussed starting an ], but I don't think it ever got off the ground. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 22:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
***Thanks Malik. That really is the way to go. ] (]) 04:39, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


Not college football, but still... See ]. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--] (]) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
* Okay, thanks for your input. I guess at this point I am willing to try an RfC/U for Dan56, but per ]:
:The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--] (]) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... ] (]) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--] (]) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? ] (]) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. ] (]) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


==Mail call==
::"Before requesting community comment, at least two editors must have contacted the user on their talk page, or the talk pages involved in the dispute, and tried but failed to resolve the problem. Any RfC not accompanied by evidence showing that two users tried and failed to resolve the same dispute may be deleted after 48 hours as "uncertified". The evidence, preferably in the form of diffs, should not simply show the dispute itself, but should show attempts to find a resolution or compromise. The users certifying the dispute must be the same users who were involved in the attempt to resolve it."
{{ygm}} I stopped e-mailing you long ago, since it always bounced, but perhaps it may be worth trying again? ] &#124; ] 09:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
*YES. I've been so lonely! ] (]) 15:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 ==
: Can I assume that either or both of you guys are willing to certify? Are the contacts that you two made with Dan56 at his talk page and at article talk pages sufficient to satisfy the minimum requirements? Please advise. ] (]) 17:47, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
::Well, that's tricky. Unlike Malik (I think) I'm somewhat involved in the content of some of those articles, so I suppose I should check my admin bit at the door if those provide prime evidence--but I wasn't going to close this RfC/U anyway. Then again, participating in an RfC about Dan will probably mean I can't take ''any'' administrative action--not that I foresee having or wanting to do that. Anyways, yes, I will probably be willing and able to certify, though I will not likely go in great detail, and I'd love to have Malik's input as well. I think that those discussions on that one Black Sabbath page are probably enough to legitimize an RfC/U. The real question is whether it will serve much of a purpose. Dan56 seems a bit intransigent to me, and the end result of an RfC/U is typically a "word to the wise"--but then, it's frequently the first step, if more steps are ever necessary. Drop me a line when you're working on it. I will have to look at some diffs again. Tomorrow is not a good day for, but I'll have 48 hours. Make sure you define quite clearly a. what the problems are, accompanied by our alphabet soup (WP:EW, WP:NLT, WP:OWN, whatever) and b. what you think the wished-for conclusion of this RfC/U should be. Good luck. ] (]) 18:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
::: Thanks, Drmies. I too will be busy at work today and most of tomorrow, but I should have something for you to look at by Wednesday. ] (]) 17:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::: I started a draft ]. Please feel free to add or alter anything as you see fit. ] (]) 18:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::: I hope that you are willing to give me some notes on the RfC/U; I don't want to go through all this effort if I'm not doing it right. I don't have the slightest idea what people expect, so I hope you will make some suggestions and even better some contributions. ] (]) 00:10, 29 July 2014 (UTC)


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:* '''Oppose''' - No way. I don't have enough computer memory to process these enormous images, but I did manage to get the retouching editor's last effort at FPC into Nikon X2 long enough to see that basically what's he's doing is "equalizing" the histogram (essentially pushing the "auto-level" button). That may be appropriate for a digital image, but it won't do for an art image. These images have simply aged, and they darken for a variety of complex reasons. Only expert restoration can bring them back to an approximation of their original appearance. This kind of processing is just silly, inauthentic, and derisory. still beautiful: " ... thy eternal summer shall not fade / Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st": but this is just horrible, a kind of art botox. Not on my account, sorry. ] (]) 05:18, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
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::I have to seriously ask you stop editing this nomination, stop ( I removed some new ones added here again) and stop adding comments like '''''this image sucks''''' and now I am asking for administrators intervention agains ] on this nomination, {{U|Drmies}}.
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::And also ask for stop telling Fylbecatulous not to vote here, above in the nomination ]. I care because it is my nomination, because it is a beautiful picture, it has character, grace and it is lovely. If it is attributed to several painters - this kind of doubt happens in the world of art history. Why do '''you''' C.o.m.c. care som much, that is on the other hand a mystery, that nobody seems to want to deal with. ] (]) 22:55, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


] '''Guideline and policy news'''
And what a shame that nobody dares to raise their voices to tell you that you are a clearly ], that nobody say stop - while you are sprinkeling the whole ] with agressive remarks and behaving absolutely disruptively and no matter how many times you are told to stop you just go on like this and will NEVER stop, whatever happens. It is YOU, C.o.m.c. the person that you try to make poor Fylbecatulous into telling him:'' In this case we have a newbie wrong about everything and apparently unwilling to cooperate. It would likewise be kind, tolerant and generous of him simply to admit his mistakes, embarrassing and possibly unpleasant though that might be, and move on.'' That's you, C.o.m.c., not him.
* Following ], ] was adopted as a ].
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
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:'You started editing Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates for a month ago and succeded to turn it upside down completely. You can always pick up one or two webbsites here and there aboutsome ongoing nomination or one certain painting but you don't have the training and ability to judge art or pictures. You are filling that project with a lot of weird nominations, and both your nominations and your comments show that you don't understand art, art history, have no deep understanding of most things that this project is about. ] (]) 00:41, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}.
::And I sincerely belive that you should be banned from editing ]. ] (]) 00:43, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*Coat, I don't know who's being pointed at as the "retouching editor". Maybe not a personal attack, but not difficult to see how someone could take it that way. ] (]) 01:28, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:*Luckily I don't have to get involved into looking through everything that's gone on in detail. In fact some of the passionate writing above makes me less than 100% sure even as to who is being alleged to have said which part. But it's worth noting a significant difference in emphasis between the phrase "This kind of processing is just silly, inauthentic, and derisory" (pretty much the strongest phrase from the first paragraph), and "you don't have the training and ability to judge art or pictures ... you don't understand art, art history, have no deep understanding of most things that this project is about" (the key phrases from the last paragraph). I suggest to the participants (or some of them) that thinking over that difference may be useful in finding ways to de-escalate this dispute. (If that is the aim...) --] (]) 04:08, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


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::* Well, the retouching editor would be DCoetzee I suppose (an editor I admire and god knows I have spent significant time doing the same sort of thing he accomplished by bots - my position on copyright is a practical and realistic one, but off-topic here), but that's not quite what I meant. The point about DC's edits (I mean his 'retouched' edits) is that they serve a limited function as thumbnails. The fact is that these gigapixel images often simply don't thumbnail well. Nor even necessarily display well within the resolution of ordinary screen monitors. Why should they? I agree absolutely with JohnBod about the limited applicability of these images. But to take an image that has been digitally processed so severely and use it as Misplaced Pages's "best" strikes me as perverse in the extreme when a casual glance at it is sufficient to show it has suffered an egregious colour cast as a result.
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::: As for our editor's latest intervention (if I call it "hysterical" I can be certain that another unpleasant posting will ensue), I think Demiurge is quite right. I shall just try and distance myself from him. I shall be sorry if I'm not able to contribute at that forum, but if it really is just a shoe-in service for a matey clique of friends, then I'm sure I'm best out. Happy to leave him to you to cherish all to yourself :). I notice by the way that - that will indeed please my ex-boss if he happens to alight upon it ... I await the blast any moment, he will go absolutely critical in several higher dimensions and beyond, and I really *will* have to close my account then. Oh well. Just a hobby. Thank god for booze.
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:::Thank you for your time. ] (]) 05:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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== FORDROCKEFELLER1974 ==
::::And all that stuff that about ChildOfMidnight explains the weird allusions to 2009 he suddenly introduced into my Talk page. I spent most of 2009 in and out of hospital being replumbed and rewired and god knows what else - socking Misplaced Pages wouldn't have been a priority. ] (]) 06:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::''I did manage to get the retouching editor's last effort at FPC into Nikon X2 long enough to see that basically what's he's doing is "equalizing" the histogram (essentially pushing the "auto-level" button).'' You appear here to be confusing two separate processing functions (and somehow using a lens or something to carry them out). You're making all this stuff up, aren't you? ] (]) 07:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::Well I'm not going to start another long series of responses. I do a bit of photography at entry level. I have Nikon Capture X2 as imaging process software. The most basic edit you can make there is to ''equalise'' the histogram, i.e. to map the lightest pixel to pure white and the darkest pixel to pure black, linearly interpolating the tones in between. You can accomplish this with sliders on the histogram or by pushing AutoLevel. It's usually quite a pleasing edit since it naturally gives a full range of tones, but its defect of course is that in RGB space it necessarily introduces colour imbalances. Now I don't have enough memory on my computer to input the very large files involved,but by dint of waiting long enough I was able finally, after several crashes, to get the source file DC was editing into the program and again, by waiting, able to perform the AutoLevel edit and confirm that basically that was what had been done (the image lacked the 10% lightest tones) and that that was the source of the yellow colour cast. DC himself has commented that he used the Curves function in Photoshop. I assume that's the same thing. I hope that satisfies your concerns about my integrity.
:::::: This is the last from me here. My intention was merely to make a constructive suggest to Drmies about this editor. ] (]) 07:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::That's a weird effect- use of levels in that manner produces gaps in the histogram, but doesn't tend to introduce colour casts. The yellow cast could be produced in curves by ramping up the R and G curves individually; if curves was used to increase the contrast, more than likely the RGB curve was put into an S shape. Introduction of casts could be avoided by using an adjustment layer in luminance blend. I did look at the two files cursorily and my impression was that (saving what you described as the "piss colour") the yellow one was superior in detail. I used to whop out the casts by picking, making a new layer, filling with foreground and inverting, then increase the transparency. In this case, a yellow layer inverts to blue, drop the opacity down to about 10%. ] (]) 08:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::: The original ] has a cast as well I notice. The nicest image is, or so at least I think, the museum image I uploaded to my file upload ] by a very noted art photographer and which I think you will agree is absolutely stunning. I mean truly beautiful as all his images are. Unfortunately it's not high resolution so can't be offered as a Featured image. When I put the two images side by side in a multiple I'm afraid our editor just deletes it. Don't misunderstand me about digital processing. While not really a very keen photographer, I do know that it's always been the case that there's no "correct" print for a photograph, and that is truer than ever in today's digital age. But that is not so for a painting, and beyond that I don't want to spend the time. I don't mean to be in any way off hand, but I've reached saturation point with this drama. I can't understand how an editor who professes to love this painting can champion such a piss (yes indeed, literally) poor image of it, but I can see right now it's going to be shoed in for Featured by (so it seems) a bunch of Welsh jihadists waiting in the wings, and there's nothing I can do about it. Thank you for your time. ] (]) 08:37, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


See {{UTRS|98810}}. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at ]. What are your thoughts? Note that I have ''not'' looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --] (]) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== User:Munich001 ==
*Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. ] (]) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== ] ==
] has added unsourced material to which was subsequently reverted . Not sure if you want to deal with him. ] (]) 05:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*Kingjeff, any time you see that kind of writing, which looks not-so neutral but is well phrased and organized, Google it. In this case it was copied from http://m.fifa.com/worldcup/players/player=196752/profile-detail.html. Thanks for alerting me, ] (]) 15:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, ] (]) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Archived?? ==
*{{U|Johnbod}}, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by ]--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and ] isn't very insightful. I see ] is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. ], if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, ] (]) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== Do you have a second? ==
Why did you removed materials from someone else's talk page?? ] (]) 09:55, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*Who's asking? ] (]) 14:31, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
::What did you mean by {{tq|Who's asking}}? Are you suspecting me a sock?? No no I'm not a sock friend. I'm just a wandering IP moving here and there, reading comments by experienced editors. I have a habit of checking history to see if the page has been vandalised or not. While doing that I came across to that IPs talk page. When I checked the history, I'm surprised to see that an admin removed most of the stuffs with an edit summary "archived". Why did you do that on someone else's talk page?? ] (]) 19:57, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm asking who's asking so I can guesstimate how much I will say. The IP is used by a friend of mine who announced his retirement. That's all. ] (]) 19:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at ] and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. ] (]) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Edit war ==
Editor ] returned to make the same edits before being blocked by edit war. See:https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Panhead2014 ] (]) 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*Maybe so, but I don't understand . I mean, there's a reference (that you removed) which clearly has him play 15 years in the Spanish league (and score eight, not seven goals). You removed an archived link, some information from templates... ] (]) 15:13, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*That link--it's always better to have something as a reference than as an external link. Now, edit warring, I don't know: their last three edits seem fine to me, and they are explained. Whether they're really reverts, well, probably they are in the broad sense of the term, but they improve the article. Sorry, but your English can do with some maintenance sometimes. I'm about to look into the ANI report. ] (]) 15:16, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
*{{U|Randykitty}} has kindly done the honors. I'm just baffled at the complete lack of consideration shown by that editor: when you're in a hole, stop digging, and if someone does ''not'' want to block you, don't beg them to. Now, Gringo, you should be wary of committing the same mistake again (edit warring); however, as Panhead pointed out in the ANI thread that boomeranged so quickly, I am an "involved" editor and so cannot take action against you, in the same way that I did not take action against them--I'm sure he appreciates that. Thanks, ] (]) 18:24, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


:The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. ] (]) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== YGM ==
::Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. ] (]) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. ] (]) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. ] (]) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... ] (]) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. ] (]) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. ] ] 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe, ], but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. ] (]) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't ''hold themselves'' accountable, how can we? ] (]) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Ha, is that a rhetorical question? ] (]) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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== ]/] ==
Not good having to teach in the summer. I used to have to do this when I taught at the University of Birmingham. ] (]) 16:30, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


Returned to ] AGAIN, with that nonsensical ref about a BENFICA match for a SPORTING championship win (reverted it on the spot)! I guess the rest can stay (should you see that the sources are appropriate, if not remove it), will duly compose it (i.e. Style of play section) when i get home.
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werde ich demnächst unter Händen nehmen ... :-) --] (]) 20:16, 27 July 2014 (UTC) Attentively ] (]) 19:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
*I made ], since I had those references handy, properly formatted. ] (]) 20:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

== Katowice Film School ==

This article was written before the web page which is suspicious to be copied. English description at http://www.writv.us.edu.pl/strona/english was based on wikipedia article!
I didn't change it, I've just only redirect it to the correct name of the faculty. ] (]) 02:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*You're saying that the university copied the Misplaced Pages article? Sorry, but I find that very, very unlikely. (Link .)] (]) 02:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Probably you are right, I am sorry. Isn't better to leave only basic informations from this article? ] (]) 02:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*Well, here's the thing--it's only rarely that individual departments are notable by our standards. It's possible that a valid addition can be made to ], which is not a great article, but only if ] prove, one way or another, that the department is worth mentioning. What you need to beware of is that such articles frequently turn into directories, and those are typically removed. So think of notable people, important projects that have been written up in magazines or the paper, etc. Thanks, ] (]) 02:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I think this faculty is worth mentioning, even in short article, because of it's rare specialization. There are not so many filmschools in Europe and each one is quite known. This school produce short films and documentary which are presented at the most important film festivals, like San Sebastian FF, Palm Springs, etc. That's why I think it's untypical faculty. It's also untypical for any university to produce films. ] (]) 03:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*If you're right, reliable sources will prove it. (Not Facebook...) ] (]) 03:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Could you undelete article and delete those paragraph which are beaking rules please? I will add reliable sources to provide my argument. It doesn't have to be deleted from cover to cover. ] (]) 12:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*{{U|Krzyztopor}}, it's in a sandbox: ]. I have removed all the copyvio stuff (which was, basically, all the content), and have attributed the remaining text to you in an edit summary (this is the easy way, chosen for logistical purposes). Good luck with it, ] (]) 17:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== Drmies admin help line ==

] is a page up for deletion at AfD. Editor now wants it deleted. Why they want it deleted depends on what talk page the editor has left ] ] ]. ], same person, was deleted at AfD in 2008. After finding out about the 2008 article, reading it and other talk page messages, my instinct says to delete, but salt. But, I'm not sure. ] (]) 06:14, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*It's a different article, as I'm sure you saw, so G4 certainly doesn't apply. That user changed their mind very quickly, didn't they. Why not just let the AfD run its course? The editor suggests BLP concerns, but I don't see that there is a clear and present BLP violation happening. ] (]) 15:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
**Same person and about 75% the same article. The latest keeps getting additions and deletions by the creating editor, so they share a majority of the same content depending on what version is read. Thanks, I'll let it run its course. ] (]) 20:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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== YGM ==

…take two aspirin immediately. ] (]) 08:07, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*Oops, should have taken one this morning. Forgot my fiber tablets too! ] (]) 14:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:I tried to find a sexy asprin costume for the "take two and call me in the morning (to tell me about it) joke, but this was the best I could find ] has failed me!!!!19:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:*Whoa. "Got a Bayer aspirin caught between my knees"--that one is news to me! ] (]) 19:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I didn't even bother to read the page first, granted that it is about sex, with a famous-ish and highly parody-able quote, I am very suprised about the Rule 34 violation. I may have to report this to Reddit! ] (]) 19:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== ERR you lost me?? ==

Did I say something wrong? I thought it was actually thoughtful advice. ] (]) 19:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*Well, the "walk away" part probably was if it was intended generally, though I think that "Peoples edits are discussed regularly here" sounds like you think it's perfectly alright what Scal did, the invitation to the coterie, and I strongly disagree with that. The law probably does not forbid it, but it's a very unfriendly thing to do, very uncollaborative. I haven't been keeping up with the latest installment of their drama, but these talk page/archive edits by Scal--I would ''never'' do something like that to the talk page of someone I disagree with so strongly, unless it was a certified administrative action. It's unwise and provocative. So in this case, I side with LB, who finds it a kind of stalking, and to tell ''her'' to walk away from ''that'', well, that's not fair. Scal needs to walk away from LB's edits and pages, in my opinion. Thanks, ] (]) 19:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
] was a message to them both, I understand what you mean about it being unfriendly and I haven't read through that entire thread to see if it was entirely offbase but the failure of both to drop the stick and multiple ANI filings lead to blocks and most times not blocks based on accuracy but blocks to just stop the madness. Sometimes they need a reminder hey go take a break come back, my last comments were aimed at LB because they had replied back and was continuing the dispute more, Scal at that point had basically stated hey the break sounds like a good deal ] but the overall message was take a break, too much drama. I pointed out my own sanctions because to this day I think that the Arbcom findings were based on precisely what I mentioned above. On that note I just ran across this on AN so was researching and commenting but I'm not invested. Didn't mean to be misunderstood. ] (]) 19:48, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*Thanks. Oh, there's more on AN? That means it's time for me to log off. ] (]) 19:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::Here's a brand new one ] ] (]) 19:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== Please reopen ==

Please reconsider and reopen my request. My concerns are real, and they are NOT being properly addressed. ] (]) 20:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I might add, today, he joined the Gender Gap project. WTF! Do you think he would have done that if I hadn't asked about a civility board and that whole, simple request devolved into a discussion about what "c*nt" means in different countries? Please. As a mature woman, I know what harassment is, and this behavior is harassment. ] (]) 20:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

:How do you know he joined the GenderGap, also can you explain the significance as I am unfamiliar with what it is? ] (]) 20:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::Because I only joined it a few days ago myself. ] (]) 20:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I joined it by invitation from another editor. Scal joined it today, less than 48 hours after I joined. ] (]) 20:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


Drmies, only six days ago, Scalhotrod speculated that I'm going to edit as an IP or create a second account. Callanecc warned him. During the civility board discussion, another editor called me a c*nt (others disagree that it was personal), and Scal called the comment that included that gem, "Brilliant!" One of the guys in that discussion who insisted that I acknowledge that c*nt is a friendly greeting among men in Australia, started a discussion on my page headed "Poor manners." I humored him. When it started to circle back in on itself, I asked him to leave me alone. He and others commented further. I deleted what was added after I asked to be left alone. In swoops Scal to revert my deletion and to tattle on me. The same guy who started the poor-manners discussion? Scal goes to his talk page, gives him at atta boy, and once again starts gossiping about bad old LB.
:''You have to understand that regardless of what WP policy says or how its interpreted and/or enforced, LB believes that anything said to her, about her, or simply perceived in reference to her that she does not like, IS a personal attack in her mind. Its how her mind works and no one will change it unless she wants to. She won't listen to (or be convinced by) any reason or logic that diverts her from her particular goal or objective when editing an article regardless of how sound or commonsense it is. Once I realized this, I gave up and just tried to keep doing what I always do, expand and cleanup articles and try to maintain article neutrality where ever it makes sense. She didn't like that on one article and took me to Arbitration Enforcement which resulted in both of us being Topic Banned for 6 months. Personally I consider it a very small price to pay now that others are becoming aware of her tactics and attitudes.'' (Scalhotrod)
Then, as a cherry on top, he joins the Gender Gap.

Please Drmies, HiaB. Please re-open that request. This kind of behavior persists despite the assertion by many that the way it's currently handled now works just fine. Bullshit. Civility is a problem here. It needs to be fixed. The status quo is NOT working and it's driving away good editors. ] (]) 20:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

:Drmies is an Admin, DP is an Admin. There are two already involved. I would again suggest that you let this go, if they continue with inappropriate behaviors there is plenty of eyes in the both of you right now and it will be a quick stop. I really don't have a dog in this fight over you or him but honestly what you are doing in appealing to everyone and their brother won't help you, it will hurt you. I've been in your shoes. ] (]) 21:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::At the very least, it leaves a much more visible audit trail. If this were the real world, first, I ask Scal to stop. I've done that repeatedly. Then I report it to his manager and mine. I did that (Callanecc). Now, I want to take it to the top. Should I go to Jimbo or WMF? Honestly. I am fed up with it. My only crime here is insisting that I be treated with the kind of respect people who work together deserve. ] (]) 21:07, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

::What the response I'm receiving now equates to is the middle manager saying, I'll talk with him; don't rock the boat. And then word gets out that I ratted on one of the guys, who's just being a guy, and then whamo! Not only is he a problem, now all his buddies are watching me. Please. This is not something to sweep under the rug. It is a rug to take out into the sunshine and beat the shit out of it. ] (]) 21:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::It doesn't equate to that, because Misplaced Pages doesn't have a corporate structure, and admins are neither one's superior nor one's manager. That's not a good analogy to make, because it makes it look like admins have more power over editors than they actually do. ]&nbsp;]] 21:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::::I understand it's not the perfect analogy, but admins do have some power and authority that regular editors do not have. ] (]) 21:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

::::Thanks to {{u|Ryulong}} for restoring Writ Keeper's comment of 21:10, but could you AGF and watch it with the edit summaries? I didn't delete it on purpose - it was probably an edit conflict that I failed to catch. ] (]) 21:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::Yeah but .—] (]) 21:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::Well, I was in the middle of writing. I don't know what I did, but it wasn't on purpose. Couldn't you have just restored it and brought it to my attention here or on my talk page? That seems more AGF to me. ] (]) 21:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::That's something I'm trying to impress on you, your good faith is on low reserves when you continue like this. That's why I explained reality or not the perception of people change how they view it the more you go on. I don't think you are familiar with ANI or AN it creates more drama most times. ] (]) 21:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::::So we AGF for an editor who, as of February 2012, had been blocked 13 times for incivility and disruption, when he used the word "c*nt" in response to a request about a civility board, but we don't for an editor who has no history of vandalism - because she's been (I gather from other comments here and elsewhere) "dramatic"? That seems to be the consensus among the editors here? That asking to be treated civilly, and complaining when you're not, is "dramatic" behavior? ] (]) 22:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


:::Jimbo has almost zero power here anymore, you are welcome to do so but the first thing any number of editors on that page will link you to is ], WMF will refer you to the community boards or admin which has reviewed and declined actions. I'll let you pursue it and not interfere anymore because at this point I think you are too upset to ] what I and many others are telling you. I know it's not your intention to be disruptive but it is one and raising more appeals only makes it more so. Writ Keeper is also admin btw ] (]) 21:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It's almost like some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of getting blocked for the subsequent flogging of the equine corpse stemming from her initial goal of trying to raise issues of the gender gap and then being able to cry sexism to her peers for daring to go on about it.—] (]) 21:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*Dear Lightbreather, don't go to the Hotrod's talk page please. Hot rod, don't go to Lightbreater's talk page please. Y'all leave each other alone. Ryulong, please no sexist jokes here--any hint of antifeminism will be met with involuntary castration. As for the rest of all the commentary here, it's hot, my battery is almost empty, I have a pool and it's in great shape, and I have a big bottle of an American-made tripel. So I'll comment on all of it some other time, or I'll let the rest of the world handle it. Much of this drama could have been avoided by, well, avoiding drama. I'm pretty sure the Panda and I can agree on at least ''that''. ] (]) 21:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:*Have you looked at the diffs in the paragraph I gave above? Have you anything to say to them? If you haven't yet, could you tell Scal, on his talk page, to stay off mine? I cannot promise to stay off his, because I check it once a week or so to see if he's talking about me. (The evidence shows that he's done so twice in the past six days.) I will not tolerate being gossiped about, especially when it involves allegations (explicit or implied) w/out evidence. Also, can you ask him to leave the Gender Gap project? It's obvious that he joined it because I did, and he doesn't need to be on it to create his "The Thalians" article. Do I need to make a formal request for amendment for this at AR?

:*@Drmies, so for formality sake, I'm proposing a self imposed Interaction Ban between Lightbreather and myself for the rest of the duration of the Topic Ban we are both currently under. For the record, I've already removed LB from my Watch list and stated it on my Talk page. --] - Just your ] banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ] 21:48, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

<small>(edit conflict)</small> ]. ]. Where is an editor supposed to go if they feel they're being attacked or harassed? I started the ANI per ] on the ''Harassment '''policy''''' page. It says, "For simple, on-wiki matters, such as a user with whom you have arguments, see dispute resolution as the usual first step." "Dispute resolution" in that sentence directs to ]. That gives two options, one of which is, "Ask an administrator to evaluate the conduct of the user. You can ask for an administrator's attention at a noticeboard such as the administrators' noticeboard for incidents (ANI)." ''People... I am following policy.'' ] (]) 21:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
*It isn't a matter of "where to go". You've gone to ANI a few times, WT:AN once in a giant discussion, you came here, you went to my talk page. You probably went other places, I haven't been keeping score. Believe me, everyone knows what you think about the matter. The problem is, there is a shortage of people who agree with your particular take on the issue, and you don't seem to accept this. Drmies is pretty outspoken about women's equality. So are lots of us, so it isn't like we are letting anything slide, you just disagree with everyone's take on policy. Until there is something actionable, you have to give it a rest, let Drmies swim, and the rest of us go edit articles. If not, people are going to just start ignoring you completely due to sheer exhaustion. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 22:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:*That 15,000+ word donnybrook... and not even 2,000 were mine. I asked a simple and civil question, got a lot of opinions about how civility can't be enforced, I learned that I did !not get called a "cunt" (so reassuring for so many to help me figure out that the person who introduced that word into the conversation meant no harm by it, so it wasn't "actionable"). I accept that there was a shortage of people in those conversations who agree with my take on WP civility. I'm already ignored by some, or at least when I bring up a specific charge with specific diffs - those get ignored. If I say something offhand, that gets commented on like nobody's business. ] (]) 22:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:::People do care about gender equality around here. Drmies will slap a banhammer on someone in a New York minute for it, I've seen it. Many of us feel the same way and will use the full force of policy to rid the place of someone who is a sexist pig. There is an established culture here, and it is a multiculture, however, and we have to deal with that. We have to be able to read tea leaves and tell the intent of the comment when there is a chance it is a cultural misunderstanding. That isn't easy. In this case, we know Eric. I also know that half the people that he works with are women, which is unusual, and I know that in his culture, the "c" word is used differently than how I use in the USA. Eric is an enigma: he can be so course, yet he writes amazing prose, one of our finest by anyone's standards. It took getting used to for me. If your concerns are gender ''equality'', then Eric ''is'' a huge fan, as am I and the majority of men around here. Misplaced Pages is much more enlightened than most "places". Around here, I never know if I'm talking to a woman or man, and it doesn't matter anyway. Our goal isn't to right the wrongs of society, it is to make a gender blind atmosphere. It isn't perfect, but it really is the best I've ever seen. But to be blind, we have to treat everyone equal, without gender. We don't make special accommodations or exceptions. THAT is equality. What you are complaining and how you are complaining, it is coming across as something ''different'' than this. Maybe it is a misunderstanding, but it looks like you are asking for special treatment for women, and that is counter to equality. We will never block for treating a ''woman'' in a certain way, but we will block for treating ''anyone'' in a certain way. When complaining about an editor's actions, gender shouldn't even be discussed unless they are the ones that made gender the issue. If YOU are the one making gender the issue, then you might be part of the problem. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 23:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::::If you need me, Dennis, I'm to the left of you.<p>I like to think we're trying to be gender-blind but I think we are not, and that's fine, but we should not be fooling ourselves. You know I'm a guy, Dennis, and I know you're one--we're having conversations that are coded in all kinds of ways. And I think "cunt" shouldn't be used here, in a multi-national atmosphere. Has nothing to do with "US political correctness". In addition, I think that someone who says "I'm being singled out for my gender" should be given a fair hearing--there was an enlightening story on NPR today, with someone called Michelle, and her program is getting cancelled (I'm adding this detail so someone can find and link it), about how gender affects one in the working world. So I wouldn't discredit Lightbreather's complaint on that basis: it sounds too much like "Oh a black guy says black guys is disenfranchised, he must be playing the race card"--as if "the race card" is some sort of trump a black guy can pull out of his sleeve and it makes him win even though he's cheating. That's FOX news, and AM talk radio, and that's not how we should operate.<p>We had a fun little afternoon at the pool and it involved beer, friends, and tequila. I'm cooking dinner, so Mrs. Drmies can hang with her ladyfriend and talk about ladythings. And long after that and some instant coffee I'll be willing to look at some diffs. Cheers, ] (]) 23:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

:::::{{ec}} As so often, Dennis, I agree. Lightbreather, I live in the same region as Eric and, yes, the usages in our region may differ from some other places in the world, which is a big lump. But he is fundamentally one of the most giving contributors that we have. He really doesn't care about gender, race, creed etc and, as Dennis points out, is commonly seen consorting here with females who are not his wife. Being human (honest! I met him once), he does get upset when someone tries to stake a claim to "superiority" in what is at least theoretically a level playing-field. That is effectively what you are doing by demanding a treatment different from that accorded to others.

:::::FWIW, I have on several occasions had death threats for stuff I've done on Misplaced Pages, I'm "insulted" pretty much daily for the same stuff and I've been hauled before everything from DRN to ANI and then ArbCom. I don't want to demean your obvious distress - you even called it that in a recent edit summary for a contribution to this page - but until you've had a death threat, you've really not been there. I can pretty much guarantee you two things: firstly, Eric will not issue a death threat (actually, that is a certainty) and, secondly, Lightbreather or not, if you take a few deep breaths, then when you need some help with fettling an article or sorting out the nuances of language etc then he is very likely to respond in a positive manner. Think of him - and me, and umpteen other experienced contributors whom you seem to be upset with - as some sort of distant, perhaps slightly gruff, relative. We love you really but it is only people like us, true friends, who will tell it to you like it is. And that has nothing to do with gender.

:::::Sometimes, I take a break. Sometimes that is sort of enforced on me due to health issues but I've also done it simply to give myself some space, get things in perspective and, well, calm down. This may be one of those times where you might benefit from doing the same. I suspect Drmies loves it when I bugger off for a few days but he's too polite to say so {{small|Drum roll - cue Drmies with witty response involving refs to beer, bacon, bally Brits etc. }} - ] (]) 23:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


:::::{{ping|Dennis Brown}}: "Maybe it is a misunderstanding, but it looks like you are asking for special treatment for women...." No, I don't want special treatment for women. What I want everyone to reconsider (if they've ever considered before) that the "treatment" anyone gets here, that is to say, that the way people treat each other is the norm. Where is the policy or guideline that decided unbusinesslike behavior is the norm here. Sure, most of us don't get paid to work here (I don't), but that doesn't mean we have a right to be coarse with each other, even after someone has said, "Hey, do you mind?" I've said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating: ] is about content, not conduct. (One of my newbie mistakes was not getting the difference between policies, guidelines, and essays. After that, I had to check myself on applying those ''to what they apply to.'' A lot of experienced editors still don't seem to get those basic differences.) And whether some like it or not, there are civility policies, like ] and ]. I don't expect women to get special treatment, but if WP is anything like RL, women get attacked and harassed more than men, so they ought to be able to do something about it. They shouldn't just be told that content or prose is more important than being treated with a minimum of respect.
:::::::I don't know what to tell you. I'm not very utopian minded, and instead very, very practical. I try to just enforce the policies that the community puts in place, sometimes participating, but usually not. If this was a USA only website, it would still be difficult, as some very religious people would want to make it against policy to say "damn", and more liberal minded people wouldn't. As admin, I generally just try to get the two people to go to different corners. Gender never really factors into it, as I have no idea what most people's gender is. Most other people can't tell what gender the other person is, so I don't see any evidence that most personal attacks have anything to do with gender. It is a very unbusiness-like place, but we aren't getting paid to do this. Collegiate is one thing, but it takes debate, argument and a few heated exchanges to get things done sometimes. Honestly, if the place was as strict as an office, I wouldn't like it and leave. Not for the language, I'm not that salty of a speaker, but from the rigid construct. Again, I won't tolerate gender bias, but I find it hard to block for strong language simply because women ''might'' be more offended than men. If they make strong language against policy, then I will block for it. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 00:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::* E.g. And the "n' word? Just asking. ] (]) 00:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

:::::As for Eric and that word, he's been banned or blocked numerous times for incivility. That word featured prominently in an ArbCom in which he was a party. If he's such a wordsmith, he knew what using that word could do in a conversation about civility - yet he chose to use it anyway. That's all I want to say about that here. I do NOT want to off on a second round about that damned word. ] (]) 00:37, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::Why don't you compile a list of all the words that offend you and email it to me so that I can print it and burn it in a ritual bonfire? ] ] 01:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
*Yes, I went and had lunch on the ]. Very beautiful today. I suggest taking a break Lightbreather even if just for a bit and be with friends and family. Feeling the real love of those around you in real life is far better than a talk page discussion any day! I promise!--] (]) 22:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
**Mark, I'm jealous--that's a beautiful river. Also, it's in California. But don't diss my talk page, you bastard. ] (]) 23:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
***Its not like I killed ] or anything!--] (]) 23:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I've still got this page on my watchlist - for occasional entertainment as well as the other reason - and looking at this affair, has anyone realised the potential this has to blow up and go viral? Female editor gets called a c*unt - indirectly, I know, but still there it is - and her indignant complaints are dismissed. Perhaps someone ] could offer some advice. We're trying to attract and retain female editors, but beyond that, it's a matter of being polite to everybody. Cheers. --] (]) 23:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Eavesdropping also. And I do not think that a phrase like "...so Mrs. Drmies can hang with her ladyfriend and talk about ladythings" will go over well. ] (]) 00:05, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Uhm.......{{u|Skyring}}, a female editor was '''not''' called a "cunt".--] (]) 00:08, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:She says she was, and that's what's important. I've seen this sort of thing play out before, and it rarely ends well for the men who say they were just joshing around. --] (]) 00:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:::No, that fact that she had to say she was is the entire issue. Give me a fucking break. The editor has said the exact same thing to men and that is a fact (should he have been treated her ''Differently because she is a woman''?). Get over it. The truth is, Misplaced Pages has formalized calling editors a "Dick" and if cunt is wrong...so is that. But "Dick" has the full support of the Misplaced Pages community. The truth is....that is sexism against men. But this is calling wolf. This really is a word used a great deal in the UK. That makes this something of a cultural issue.--] (]) 00:44, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::In fact despite what Lightbreather and others are claiming I've never called a woman a cunt, either here or in real life, and I can't imagine a situation in which I'd be tempted to do so; it's a word I reserve for particularly stupid or obnoxious males. ] ] 01:12, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::And if you think about it twice, Eric, is that not sexist? ] (]) 01:19, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::It would only be sexist if you believe that I wouldn't say exactly the same thing to a male editor, or had in any way made reference to Lighbreather's gender. Do you really believe that I wouldn't or that I did? Do you not consider Lightbreater's lie - "During the civility board discussion, another editor called me a c*nt" – to be sexist? ] ] 01:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::{{u|Eric Corbett}}I think he meant its sexist in that you said you reserve it for males. his irony got lost in the text. To your point, some time ago I annoyed you, and I think you posted the exact same comment "If you don't want to be called..." etc. and as I recall I also took you to ANI, and that also went nowhere. I think there is general agreement that Eric can often be rude when he needn't be, but also agreement that that rudeness does not rise to the level of wiki-disruption, or in the long run outweigh his contributions. In any case, there is ample proof that he is gender neutral in that rudeness, and of the specific use of the word in question. ] (]) 01:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::::@Eric: Thought you were supposed to be bright..okay..let me say what you should have realized..the worse thing you can think of calling a male is a vulgarism for the female genitalia? And this aint sexist? ] (]) 01:34, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh I can think of much worse things to call anyone, you included, but sometimes an intensifier is the best option. A short sharp shock if you will. That's what you civility warriors don't seem to understand. You're choosing to focus on a word, while ignoring the persistent lie that Lightbreather is attempting to propagate. Why is that? Is that not incivil? ] ] 01:42, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::::::"A short sharp shock." How about '''not''' being shocking? Wouldn't that be a more polite way of being a human being? --] (]) 01:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::::I've been very polite with you so far, but don't push your luck sunshine. ] ] 02:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

::Please let's us not let this discussion go off on a tangent about that word or what it means. Star another if necessary, please. ] (]) 00:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Too late.--] (]) 00:44, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
{{U|Lightbreather}}, if anything is to be learned here, I hope it is that we differ on many things, but have the same basic ideals in mind: equity. We don't scream about our differences of opinion, we just try to get along. If someone does single you out because of your gender, no one here would put up with that. Drmies would beat us to the punch, but only because he's a bit of a show off. I still think you have to pick your battles wisely or people will quit listening, but that isn't the same as tolerating sexism. And admin can only enforce existing policy, not what policy should be, so if you want systemic change, you don't get that at ANI. ]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 00:15, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Look Lightbreather, I understand your frustration and have been in your exact situation. Overreaction to a comment or post that one feels crosses the line. OK, but when I protested to homophobic comments on Jimbo Wales talk page it didn't go any better for me and the outcome was.....I need a thicker skin and that some editors will have a negative opinion of gays in general. This isn't even ''that'' sort of thing. This is you coming to the community over an issue of personal attacks and needing a Noticeboard to deal with it. Many of us tried to discuss this with you but when the editor in question made the remark...I don't think your reaction was that of offense to what they had said, but that Scalhotrod had responded to it positively. I think you are projecting your anger with that editor and not the original comment. That seems to be what really pissed you off. This is a personal conflict that you are continuing over a broad range of venues and I think this clearly demonstrates that a noticeboard where this sort of thing is discussed at length would be nothing but a ticking time bomb.--] (]) 01:10, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

@Mark Miller: I would shut up if I were you. The longer you talk the more you give evidence for gender bias. ] (]) 01:42, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:Juan (didn't sign your post) I wouldn't hand out such bad or ill-conceived advice if I were you. I have a lot of biases as we all do, but gender...is not one of them. Or...is it your suggestion that as a homosexual I have an inherent bias against woman? If so...that was pretty fucking sick dude.--] (]) 01:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::I like you have many biases which I do not let get the better of me. I was referring to your line: "The truth is....that is sexism against men." ] (]) 01:46, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

:: @MM. I'd suggest you take him to AN/I on a civility beef, but I have a hunch that if I did that Drmies would toss me for trolling... ;-) —Tim /// ] (]) 01:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
===Reopening===
<blockquote>Drmies, only six days ago, Scalhotrod speculated that I'm going to edit as an IP or create a second account. Callanecc warned him. During the civility board discussion, another editor called me a c*nt (others disagree that it was personal), and Scal called the comment that included that gem, "Brilliant!" One of the guys in that discussion who insisted that I acknowledge that c*nt is a friendly greeting among men in Australia, started a discussion on my page headed "Poor manners." I humored him. When it started to circle back in on itself, I asked him to leave me alone. He and others commented further. I deleted what was added after I asked to be left alone. In swoops Scal to revert my deletion and to tattle on me. The same guy who started the poor-manners discussion? Scal goes to his talk page, gives him at atta boy, and once again starts gossiping about bad old LB.</blockquote>
I'm pasting Lightbreather's opening statement (editor abbreviated "LB", hoping she doesn't mind) here to respond one point at a time. I may not cover every single one of them; it may well be that no one likes what I have to say, but for one reason or another lots of people have opinions, and apparently I should have some too.
#Scalhotrod's remark, the first diff in this paragraph, is completely asinine and Callanecc's response is much appreciated. This is exactly the kind of thing that Hot Rod needs to stop doing or they'll be blocked for being an asshole--I don't have a policy link for it, and I am not calling him an asshole, but if he does something like that, he's suggesting that someone call him one and block him for it. Scalhotrod is a big boy, he can handle my comment.
#Eric did not call anyone a c*t, though he phrased his commentary (a general remark, where I would use the more gender-neutral "asshole", since I'm a good American) in his usual(ly) provocative way. Eric is not a very good misogynist, but he shouldn't be trying harder either. I wish he hadn't said it, because he said it in some expectation of being misunderstood and he got exactly that. Score!, one might say.
#Of course Scalhotrod is going to say something like "Brilliant"; it's par for the course. If one guy belches, the next one will fart. (In my household, it's my daughters who act like that; it's not that gendered anymore.)
#HiLo busts in without a by-your-leave, to complain about having been ignored twice; HiLo, old friend whom I've defended more than once, NO means NO. Someone is not interested in your commentary? Suck it up.
#Having looked at , well, there's nothing to it. I don't see any reason why someone wouldn't be able to delete the tail end of a conversation, esp. if it consists of commentary someone doesn't care for or invited. TPG my foot; there was nothing wrong with that edit, no context was removed, nothing.
#The rest, which is Hot rod "tattling" (in quotes since it's a quote, but a very appropriate word) and then inviting a little round table on his talk page to shoot the shit over a couple of beers with some bros (Gerda, that's not a conversation you want to join nor, Panda, is it one you should care for), well, I spoke my mind on it already. I don't think it's blockable or whatever, I just think it's in really poor taste, and I hope no one is encouraging that kind of chit-chat.
I have had my share of dealings with Lightbreather and not all of them have been fun. None of them have ''not'' been fun because of her gender, though I blame mine for my lack of patience. But to have a bunch of editors basically make fun of the matter, no, that's not alright. I cannot determine how much of the dismissive treatment she's been receiving has been based on gender; I wish some smart person, like {{U|LadyofShalott}} or {{U|Anna Frodesiak}} would read over all of this and tell me what's going on. But I can't escape the impression that it is relevant one way or another, that this makes her an easy target, with editors just waiting to pounce. Really, Eric, I love you like a brother--no, almost like a father--but I wish you could try harder not to provoke in this manner. I know you probably have nothing against Lightbreather, since for you it's the basic matter of our terrible civility policy or lack thereof, but you really hurt someone's feelings, and that someone is an innocent bystander in the civility debate, as well as a passionate editor who's been hit over the head by ArbCom and seems to be the target of some other editors. Honestly, I can't think of it any other way--without throwing stalking accusations around, I think I can say that there's more than one editor around who'd love to see Lightbreather get in trouble.<p>Lightbreather, I can't reopen that thread. I do not think it's a matter for ANI. I have seen nothing actionable, though I have seen plenty that's objectionable. Appearances matter, and those boys, those good old boys, that you've been duking it out with, they have not shown their best side. I do not think you've been the victim of a sexist attack, since that requires intent, but I suppose I should be happy I'm not in your shoes. For the time being, and since I am as limited as I am (and possibly insensitive to what maybe really important here), I can say only that I will act on what I think is actionable behavior. That includes provocation and hounding/stalking: Scalhotrod, man, you are on a short leash. HiLo, don't be a jackass, coming to people's talk pages and bitch about them not paying you attention--they probably did so for a reason, even if you don't like the reason. Y'all just chill out. LB, I'm going to have to ask you to take it easy also, not because you didn't have reason to get upset (you did, I see that now) but because I do not believe you are choosing a good path to seek redress. I am well well aware of the fact that we may not have good paths for redress, and all I can offer you is to act like a proper administrator. Perhaps the Lady and the Anna, already pinged, can offer more, or can offer it more appropriately. That's enough out of me. LB, feel free to email me if need be. ] (]) 01:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

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IP range block might need an update

Hi Drmies, this post is about the IPv6 range 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:0:0:0:0/64 that you partially blocked for 1 week from editing AN/I. A little less than an hour later, User:Cullen328 actually site-blocked the singular IP in that range 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:6463:27AE:4C80:E87B for a couple of days with no talk page access. Since then, like happens with many IPv6 connections, the user's IP address switched over to 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:9541:B21:E7F0:1D7F very shortly after, which allowed them to continue posting on that previous IP's talk page in spite of the previous IP's block with no talk page access. Given that this is technically block evasion, I'm thinking maybe the /64 rangeblock should be updated to a full one?

Regards, — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I left a note for Cullen cause I had to run, but I'll go ahead and stop that yapping. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Yeah, sorry Drmies, my wife and I had to pick up some prescriptions (we're 72), go to the hardware store as part of our ongoing battle against the rats, and stop at Target. We just got home. Cullen328 (talk) 02:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
      • I took care of it. Rats? Brrrr. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Yeah they are creepy and filthy and befoul any accessible food, but that's the least of it. They have twice chewed partly through pex fresh water lines in the crawl space under our house, which soaked a lot of insulation too. Very expensive chaos. Second incident discovered today. It's an ongoing debacle and I have a grudge against all rodents at this point. Cullen328 (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
        @Cullen328: Do you routinely distribute rodenticide in key locations? I do so weekly, and the problems are much improved. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
        • Deepfriedokra, we live in a semi-rural area with lots of beneficial wildlife like deer, rabbits and squirrels plus pets like cats and dogs, so pest control professionals prefer to avoid most poisons and rely on traps and repellents instead. There is also the hidden dead rat odor problem. We are going to start a very specialized product called RatX in the next few days. Cullen328 (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Oh Lord, rats are a horrible problem. Hope you can get rid of them. Do you guys have any cats? And I think that having a lot of insects and whatnot in your house is considered something of a way of life, but imo, definitely not true nowadays. My house suffers from a lot of silverfish, and my family has been trying to use boric acid to try and stop them. Strong substance, perhaps, but definitely useful. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I only use the poison in the house- behind stove, fridge, and washing machine. Fortunately they leave before dying. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I use road flares in their burrows outdoors. Close up as many holes as you can find except one, light the road flare and stick it fire side in and cover it up. Carbon monoxide takes care of it. Keeping livestock I have a significant rat population outside that I have to keep in check. As for inside, cats. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          (edit conflict) Like Cullen, we too live in a rural area. Fortunately, we haven't had any rats (one bat, though - and that was horrible), but we do have mice. Don't know if they'll work with larger rodents, but we leave sticky traps for the mice in our garage, and, thus far, that keeps them out of the house, killing them before they can enter.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Is that better than roaches, Bbb23? Drmies (talk) 19:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          You'd think an indoor pit bull would prevent rats. She does not. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Need a ratter, not a big dog. My little lady kills quite a few rats outside. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Mice are stupid and don't get too trap averse. Much more difficult to trap rats long term. With mice I've found a bucket trap to be very effective. A 5 gallon bucket with a ramp leading to the top. Fill it halfway with water, then cover the water with sunflower seeds. The mice climb up and hop in to get the seeds and can't get out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I do think cats make good pets too. They're good at catching mice and rats, as well as defeating snakes. I'm sure the reaction time of a cat is about 20-44 milliseconds compared to a snake which has like 44-70 milliseconds. I also think that cats are the general predator of snakes. But staying on topic, I do feel like it would be best to have a cat as a pet (I certainly don't have a cat, though) for catching rats. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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In 2024 you were one of the top AfC editors, thank you! --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • I was, Ozzie10aaaa?? I had no idea--I think that also shows that it would be good if more people got involved with it. I think the backlog is creeping towards 2,000 again. Anyway, thanks: I appreciate it! Drmies (talk) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Drmies, you probably wouldn't have been if we had an actual full year of data (that data is just from the last month or so). But if you kept up that same pace through the whole year... yeah, maybe you still would be. We truly need all the help we can get. -- asilvering (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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Have a good one, Doc, and thanks for filling our wiki-lives with cheer.

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About your block of Ayomikun445

Quack, quack.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

DCAU page

Hi! I'm currently engaged in an edit war with a user who believes that two films released in 2017 and 2019 are canon to an animated universe of TV shows from 1992-2006. I've provided multiple clear as day sources from the people who worked on these that show this isn't the case.

You can read it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:DC_Animated_Universe#Article_Cleanup Walterwhitehartwell (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

With respect to Bai Jingting

Hi, I seen few deletion, need clarity to improve. 1. For Philanthropic activity the source 8th line mentions artist name, need to understand why the source is doubtful. 2. If "features" is wrong vocabulary could it be replaced with other word? As new writer I observed many articles already accepted those details from years. Need to understand how to represent here with proper writing. SakuraSmart (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Not every time someone is mentioned in some competition they're "featured". If someone is featured it means they get a special placement, and there is no evidence at all that this is what is happening here. Yes, it's a buzzword now used for every guest performance and appearance, and we need to fight back, like linguistic warriors. I don't really know what you mean with "source 8th line", but if you're talking about this source, it's pretty obvious to me that that gossipy glossy website is NOT an acceptable, neutral, independent source for BLPs. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the reply. For Philanthropic activity link was used. 8th line suggest artist donation towards natural disaster. It was removed stating doubtful. If we mention actual ranks of few listings, instead of "feature" I hope it's fine provided link attached is not from gossip site and provides enough evidence. SakuraSmart (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
      • What 8th line? I see five lines, and then some weird image that took me 26 clicks on "Page Down" to get through--and then there's comments. Anyway, I see his name is mentioned, along with dozens of others, on a website that at best looks like a gossipy site for fans of entertainers. Whatever that site is, it's not publishing journalism; please see WP:RS. How much did he even give? Or did the record company give a few bucks in his name, to add to his resume? Who knows? Drmies (talk) 02:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Oh you mean the seventh line of that picture with a list of donors--who knows what that picture is, and what its authority is. Again, that's not how we operate here. It's too easy to manipulate pictures, and there's no source or context--"according to incomplete statistics" actually expresses part of the problem well. Drmies (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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User:Pinzunski/User:SukunaZenin and others

Thought they had given up and taken a new hobby, but nope... Here is this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:67D4:8700:461:2CED:6508:F5E3), for instance continuing with the transfer speculation at Francisco Trincão (and reinserting their ref that "supported" Sporting CP winning the title last season by mentioning a S.L. Benfica match!!), duly reverted! Ah, with a completely polite and encyclopedical edit summary, so let's see what their reply will be (because they WILL reinstate their version again!)...

Happy 2025, take care RevampedEditor (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring started already, please intervene (you or somebody) ASAP! --RevampedEditor (talk) 17:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey)

The article for Columbia High School (New Jersey) definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. Alansohn (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. Tarlby 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally the minute I sent this lol. Tarlby 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! Drmies (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" Tarlby 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? Tarlby 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. Drmies (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. Tarlby 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

120.21.0.0/16

Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at Special:Contributions/120.21.0.0/16, and there are no deleted contributions. Nyttend (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Hey Nyttend--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. Drmies (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Advice needed

How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her additions are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? The Banner talk 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Football sock

Not college football, but still... See WP:ANI#Footballnerd2007. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--Bbb23 (talk) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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WP is not a Multilingual dictionary

Please take a look at Addition_to_WP:NOTDICTIONARY and comment. Though this may be implied by other policies, I think it's worthwhile making it explicit. Thanks, --Macrakis (talk) 19:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

FORDROCKEFELLER1974

See UTRS appeal #98810. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at User_talk:TTTEMLPBrony. What are your thoughts? Note that I have not looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --Yamla (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. Drmies (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Beeldenstorm

Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Johnbod, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by User:ST47ProxyBot--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Open proxies isn't very insightful. I see User:Malcolmxl5 is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. User:Ponyo, if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a second?

Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at User:54rt678/sandbox and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. BusterD (talk) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. BusterD (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. BusterD (talk) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. BusterD (talk) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd burnt the Packers in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... BusterD (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. Drmies (talk) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. Doug Weller talk 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Maybe, Doug, but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't hold themselves accountable, how can we? BusterD (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Ha, is that a rhetorical question? Drmies (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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User:Pinzunski/User:SukunaZenin

Returned to Francisco Trincão AGAIN, with that nonsensical ref about a BENFICA match for a SPORTING championship win (reverted it on the spot)! I guess the rest can stay (should you see that the sources are appropriate, if not remove it), will duly compose it (i.e. Style of play section) when i get home.

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