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== Edit warring == == Edit warring ==

Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of published research from credible second and third-party sources, which means that Mark Dillon and the Newsday's observations are perfectly sound for inclusion, just as Jim Fusilli's observation that "Brian Wilson may have almost written himself in a dead hole" is, as you put it, "conjecture". '''Sources which make independent observations are not banned from Misplaced Pages. In this case, there are ''two'' sources for the same piece of information.''' Please stop edit warring the ] article and discuss on the talk page why you think the information should be excluded, and to cite which protocols you believe the text violates. (])--] (]) 23:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of published research from credible second and third-party sources, which means that Mark Dillon and the Newsday's observations are perfectly sound for inclusion, just as Jim Fusilli's observation that "Brian Wilson may have almost written himself in a dead hole" is, as you put it, "conjecture". '''Sources which make independent observations are not banned from Misplaced Pages. In this case, there are ''two'' sources for the same piece of information.''' Please stop edit warring the ] article and discuss on the talk page why you think the information should be excluded, and to cite which protocols you believe the text violates. (])--] (]) 23:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


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{{unblock reviewed|reason=I gave my reasons over and over again. This individual repeatedly would change it to reflect just enough to continuously put complete conjecture, completely unsubstantiated claims, and disavowed sources (It is well publicised that Brian Wilson had nothing to do with the writing of his memoirs. They were totally a Eugene Landy creation) Is Misplaced Pages a real Encyclopedia or a gossip rag, because that is what this individual keeps trying to force into this article - gossip Do I get my information from gossip rags? I would think not. Again, I gave my reason all too many times as there wasn't any give on the part of the other individual, just reinsertion of gossip/falsehoods again and again. ] (]) 03:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)|decline=
In a 24 hour period you more than 3 reverts on a single article that were not removing copyright violations, libelous statements, or vandalism. In this context, I'm declining your request to be unblocked. ] (]) 07:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)}}

{{unblock reviewed | 1=thanks for clarifying that it's more important for some procedural BS dance than it is to post legitimate honest material. ] (]) 9:44 am, Today (UTC+1) | decline = This is not an unblock request. Please don't use this template unless you are actually filing an appeal against your block. ]&nbsp;]] 11:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)}}
If you don't mind a suggestion from me, Jp5472, the point is that when there is a disagreement about content both sides tend to think they're right. So it's really not going to work for the rules to say "It's OK to keep on reverting providing you're the one in the right" - that way, the edit wars would never end. What's needed instead is to agree not to edit war any further, and to go discuss the disputed material on the article talk page - and let a discussion-based consensus decide what the article will say. ] (]) 11:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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Edit warring

Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of published research from credible second and third-party sources, which means that Mark Dillon and the Newsday's observations are perfectly sound for inclusion, just as Jim Fusilli's observation that "Brian Wilson may have almost written himself in a dead hole" is, as you put it, "conjecture". Sources which make independent observations are not banned from Misplaced Pages. In this case, there are two sources for the same piece of information. Please stop edit warring the God Only Knows article and discuss on the talk page why you think the information should be excluded, and to cite which protocols you believe the text violates. (WP:AVOIDEDITWAR)--Ilovetopaint (talk) 23:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

You will be reported per WP:3RR and blocked from Misplaced Pages if you revert once more before a consensus is reached.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 23:59, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

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The full report is at WP:AN3#User:Jp5472 reported by User:Ilovetopaint (Result: Blocked). EdJohnston (talk) 02:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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I gave my reasons over and over again. This individual repeatedly would change it to reflect just enough to continuously put complete conjecture, completely unsubstantiated claims, and disavowed sources (It is well publicised that Brian Wilson had nothing to do with the writing of his memoirs. They were totally a Eugene Landy creation) Is Misplaced Pages a real Encyclopedia or a gossip rag, because that is what this individual keeps trying to force into this article - gossip Do I get my information from gossip rags? I would think not. Again, I gave my reason all too many times as there wasn't any give on the part of the other individual, just reinsertion of gossip/falsehoods again and again. Jp5472 (talk) 03:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

In a 24 hour period you more than 3 reverts on a single article that were not removing copyright violations, libelous statements, or vandalism. In this context, I'm declining your request to be unblocked. PhilKnight (talk) 07:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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thanks for clarifying that it's more important for some procedural BS dance than it is to post legitimate honest material. Jp5472 (talk) 9:44 am, Today (UTC+1)

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This is not an unblock request. Please don't use this template unless you are actually filing an appeal against your block. Yunshui 水 11:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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If you don't mind a suggestion from me, Jp5472, the point is that when there is a disagreement about content both sides tend to think they're right. So it's really not going to work for the rules to say "It's OK to keep on reverting providing you're the one in the right" - that way, the edit wars would never end. What's needed instead is to agree not to edit war any further, and to go discuss the disputed material on the article talk page - and let a discussion-based consensus decide what the article will say. Neatsfoot (talk) 11:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)