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== Featured articles == == January music ==
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Hi John. How you getting on mucker?? I was wondering how to get articles 'featured' on the main page?? Does Wiki just pick ones or can articles be requested. Obviously I would like one of mine to be featured, lol. Is this possible?--] (]) 14:34, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
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:It isn't that simple. See ]. Your article first has to be peer reviewed by some pretty hard-assed reviewers. --] (]) 01:02, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 29 October 2014 ==
Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. -- ] (]) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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:::Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. ] (]) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Thank you ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Please accept this barnstar as a token of my gratitude for your help with the article on ]. Instead of wasting your time on ] with the article, you simply stepped forward and fixed it. Such good work should not go unnoticed. ''<font color="#901">//</font>'']] 21:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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:Dziękuję, że jest dobry. --] (]) 21:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

::Oh my, I gave you the barnstar before I noticed what you did to my other pet project, the article on ]. Since another barnstar could be boring, here's a ]. In other words - thanks mate. It must've taken ages to read through the article :) ''<font color="#901">//</font>'']] 21:49, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

:::It was a very great pleasure to read and tinker with two such interesting articles. I learned a lot. I look forward eagerly to working with you on these in the future, and on helping you get them through FAC in the fullness of time. --] (]) 21:55, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

== Help ==

Hi John. I was wondering if you could check this ]. I've never done an article like this before. Also, I couldn't get the photo to fit in the infobox. Maybe it's something I'm doing wrong or the infobox is gubbed in some way. Also, is the gallery too much?? Anyway if the (small) article is good, can you move it into main space for us.--] (]) 13:15, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
:Looking. --] (]) 17:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
:I've moved it to the mainspace. I did in the end think the gallery was unnecessary so I removed it. The infobox image worked ok for me. Nice work, mucker! --] (]) 19:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
::It wasn't the greatest article, however, cheers for your help john.--] (]) 09:14, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

== Ayurveda ==

] was told about zero revert rule on ]. Due to his edit warring , one user needed to open an Rfc,(see ]) after the apparent agreement on Rfc,(although it is still on going) he is still repeating the same edits. Page needs to be protected. ] (]) 09:46, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:His forum shopping is also becoming disruptive. A full fledged discussion was recently made on this board, and still remains ]. ] (]) 10:28, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
::Just to clarify, on two occasions QG added sourced material and it was Bladesmulti who reverted. ] (]) 13:46, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
::] Adding just anything is ], you need to establish some ]. On talk page of the article, there is still no agreement to add any of these edits. John has told that any kind of misconduct on this page should be reported to him, you can also view archives and search ''quackguru'' and ''ayurveda''. ] (]) 13:52, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Hmm, I thought John's ''No reverts, at all, for any reason other than obvious vandalism'' meant there were to be no reverts, at all, for any reason other than obvious ]. But perhaps I am misreading.
:::With regard to QG's post to a community noticeboard, note John also said ''Discussions may be referred to central noticeboards like WP:NPOVN or to WP:RFC, in fact I encourage this.'' Perhaps he meant only those two noticeboards and not ], or perhaps I am again misreading.
:::I do agree that there's misconduct on that page, from many parties. ] (]) 14:04, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
::::On just any page, per ], if edits have been reverted at least 3 times, by 2 or more editors, he should not add them back. John had added - ''Any major changes to the article must be agreed here in talk beforehand.'' Last time, when FTN was still opened, he was repeating same question on 3 pages, (same as ), today he posted on FTN which is of course misuse of that noticeboard. May have been better if he had posted it on relevant wikiprojects. ] (]) 14:12, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::QuackGuru found to be misrepresenting a citation on lead. Read ] (])
*I have blocked Quackguru one week and Bladesmulti 48 hours, both for disruptive editing at ]. Lest anyone read anything into the different block lengths, these merely reflect the differing block logs of the two users and do not imply any difference in degree of misbehaviour. I will be happy to unblock either user if they undertake to respect normal editing practices at that article, as was discussed at article talk recently. Any admin watching here is specifically invited to pitch in here if they have any opinions about these blocks, or if they think this requires review at AN/I. QuackGuru, it is common sense in a situation like this to await firm consensus in talk before making controversial additions to the article, as we have previously discussed. This is even more true when there is an ongoing RfC at article talk. Bladesmulti, you reverted not once but twice while pointing out to the other user the 0RR I had requested at the article. Even without 0RR, reverting during a content dispute when the addition was non-vandalistic was disruptive. --] (]) 21:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
::MrBill3 has violated copyrights on his sandbox and Talk:Ayurveda. He was aware of copyright infringement policy and he had warned others before. - ] (]) 01:32, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:::You had told that there should be no name calling, per #2 (]) yet, Roxy the dog claims that those people who agreed with the restrictions "are the fringe pushers who don't have the good of wikipedia as their highest priority" ] (]) 05:38, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::As an observation, those people who have agreed with the restrictions are those who are pushing the "pro-Ayurveda", position, whether or not they are fringe-pushers. That suggests problems with your approach. — ] ] 08:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::And they are not pushing the ''pro-Ayurveda'' position. So what now? ] (]) 08:12, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::Oops, sorry I didn't notice these posts. Let me have a look. --] (]) 19:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::Thanks Bladesmulti, I have blocked Roxy the dog 24 hours. These comments were unacceptable. --] (]) 19:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

== Help ==

Hi John. Is it still taking ages for reviews. If it is, can you hook ] up for us. It's only small. Cheers mucker.--] (]) 14:34, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:Hi ]. For the first time I find I have a qualm over one of your proposed articles. Is the park truly ] by Misplaced Pages's standards if the only coverage is from the organisation which runs the park? Would it be better perhaps to write an article on ], with some information about the modern park which bears his name? We could have ] as a redirect to the engineer article. There are not that many sources out there but I found or , which may make that a more profitable way forward, especially if you can find more. What do you think? --] (]) 21:50, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
:And is an interesting book hit. I think this might be the way forward. Let me know what you think. --] (]) 22:08, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
::Your right I think. Seems fairly interesting. I will need to try that one later. In work at the minute, so limited internet access. Thanks again though John.--] (]) 08:44, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

== R U Professional ? ==

*"]"

Hey John,

So I know you're professional so I'm asking your help as a professional to help professionally copy edit the article ]?

But seriously, at the suggestion of {{u|Ian Rose}} from ], I enlisted your help copy editing '']'', and you did such a great job I'd love it if you could take a look at "]"?

It's a ] article that's been through several prior stages of review including AFD, DYK, GA, and Peer Review, and I'd appreciate help in furthering along the quality improvement process.

Thank you,

&mdash; ''']''' (]) 02:03, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:Happy to take a look. --] (]) 07:19, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks very much! :) &mdash; ''']''' (]) 13:36, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Just let me know when you're doing with the copy edits pass through? &mdash; ''']''' (]) 18:06, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
::::I should get a chance tonight. --] (]) 18:10, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::Okay thanks, keep me posted, &mdash; ''']''' (]) 16:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::I took a first pass. It looks good. I will have more tinkering to do I expect. Are you thinking of going to FAC with it? --] (]) 20:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Looks great so far. Yes, I was thinking of going to FAC. I had a request up at ] but I'm debating removing that when you're doing with your copy editing. Let me know what you think about that, &mdash; ''']''' (]) 20:12, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, will do. --] (]) 20:19, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::Okay the editor from ] is done, so let me know when you're doing as well and I should be all set. :) &mdash; ''']''' (]) 10:57, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

== Draft ==

How goes it John sir?? I've been working on ], can you let us know what you think and move it if it's good. Nice one mate, cheers.--] (]) 11:46, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:Sorry for the slow response. I will have a look later tonight. --] (]) 17:35, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
::Cool, cool.--] (]) 16:55, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
:::I managed to do that. Nice article. --] (]) 20:19, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
::::Thanks for your help with all your edits mate, cheers.--] (]) 10:20, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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==]==
Guess what, he's back. ] (])
:I blocked again. --] (]) 17:34, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

==Talkback==
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Do you mind taking on the question on the bottom, or do you want me to do it? ] <span style="border:1px solid #ffa500;background:#ffce7b;"><small>If you reply here, please leave me a &#123;&#123;]&#125;&#125; message on ].</small></span> @ 06:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

== ANI notice ==

{{ANI-notice|topic=Ayurveda|thread=Ayurveda|reason=your imposition of editing restrictions.}} — ] ] 07:59, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:Gosh. I'm thoroughly unimpressed with your conduct in this issue, from your apparent inability to read the full text of the restriction, to your POINTy abuse of your protection right, to your thoroughly weak summing up at AN/I, to your laughable suggestion that I should apologise to an edit-warrior for blocking them, to the fact that you had to go to a drama board at all, rather than just ask nicely like any normal person would. Weren't you desysopped for a while? Don't bother to reply here, I will dig it out for myself. If not perhaps you should be. Please feel free to ping me here if you are ever being desysopped again; other than that feel free to keep your shenanigans off my page. --] (]) 16:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

== ] again.. ==


== Lake Michigan Monster ==
I know I asked earlier and then did nothing. It's been a wild year here outside wikiworld, but it seems that things are calming down a bit. Think you and any TPSs could look him over, for grammar, and any missing context? I'm thinking Mil-hist A-class then FAC. I've also got a very interesting guy to write up ... forger, slave-trader and general all around scoundrel! Not a bishop though... ] - ] 14:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:Of course, I will be happy to have a look. I always enjoy working on your articles. --] (]) 16:15, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:I remember this one now. It's only a couple of months since I last looked it over. It's as good as I can make it grammar and prose-wise, but that doesn't mean one of my many talk page watchers couldn't help out and improve it further. Anybody? --] (]) 17:14, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on '']''. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. ] (]) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
==Ayurveda - At your request==
{{archive top|This has run its course, and there is no prejudice about other requests in the future in relation to this matter. --] (]) 21:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC) }} :Looks pretty good to me. What does {{u|Ceoil}} think? ] (]) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::He has not been on the past week or so and has not replied to a chat I sent. I guess we will have to wait and see.--] (]) 23:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Since you requested a response here, here it is.


== +rollback ==
Please lift the 0RR restriction from Ayurveda. Whatever it's intent, it's failed because editors simply will not work under the restrictions, and our repeated requests for discussions on those restrictions went unanswered. --] (]) 17:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:In what way has it failed? Editors who are not able to edit without calling other editors names, without reverting blindly, and without agreeing important changes at a controversial page, are not an asset, and would be blocked in any case for their behaviour. Calling it 0RR merely makes it easier to explain and enforce. In practice there have been no 0RR blocks at all, and I regard this as a success, so while I take your comment on board, I have to hold off agreeing with it in the absence of any evidence. --] (]) 17:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::There have been two blocks which you, John, imposed, and almost straight away rescinded. -] (]) 18:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::And? --] (]) 19:03, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::And? And? It is obvious isn't it. I was pointing out your dishonesty when you said that there had been no 0RR blocks at all. I couldn't let that deception slide by unremarked. -] (]) 20:38, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::Dishonesty? Deception? I am sorry if you are still angry about your recent block. You acknowledged that I explained adequately why you were blocked, and no reviewing admin saw fit to lift the block. You have now served your block and it is time for introspection. I encourage you to continue to self-reflect with a view to improving your behaviour so you can avoid being blocked again. The two previous blocks you mention were discussed just above, in the section ]. Neither was for 0RR, so it is true to say that no 0RR blocks have been issued. I encourage you to apologise for your misunderstanding, which I accept was an honest one, for the sake of your own self-esteem. Please be aware that there is no bitterness on my part about your name-calling, but do be aware that you will be blocked again if you disrupt again at ]. --] (]) 21:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::I made no such acknowledgement at all. Please re-read the section more carefully. I have finished my introspection, but I urge you to heed the criticism and questioning about your motives and behaviour you have had from fellow admins and other editors over the last 24 hours. We expect far better of admins than you have demonstrated recently. -] (]) 21:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::::Mmm. actually but ok. I will take your comments with all the seriousness they deserve. I do again encourage you to continue your growth as an editor, but perhaps here and now will not be the best. I will close this section for now as I have answered all your questions. --] (]) 21:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|John}} I made a simple request about the reliability of a source at ], and I was immediately accused of '''being disruptive''' by user Roxy the Dog. After all his warnings and sanctions, I doubt if this user is going to change his course of behaviour. ] (]) 21:11, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, he answered to me by saying: "''It was explained very clearly by Dominus Vobisdu in the comment directly below this one''", and "''Read it, and stop being disruptive please. Thanks.''" Here is the explanation by Dominus Vobisdu that he was pertaining to and advised me to read: "'''And that just ain't gonna happen because most real physicians and scientists would vomit at the mere thought.'''". I wonder, how WP:CIVIL is that? ] (]) 21:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::::It certainly isn't very civil but I suppose this editor is annoyed at having just been blocked so we will cut him some slack this time. --] (]) 21:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
::::What evidence do you require that editors will not work on it, beyond the multiple statements already made?
::::We're here to build an encyclopedia, not prevent it. --] (]) 20:18, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::If a consensus of uninvolved admins thinks there is a better way forward I will be happy to look at that. Other than that I stand by what I said at 17:54. Consider the possibility that if you think it is important to be able to call other editors names, and revert their work without discussion, you may be part of the problem. --] (]) 20:25, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::Diffs please if you believe those comments apply to me. --] (]) 22:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::I stand by what I said at 17:54. Consider the possibility that if you think it is important to be able to call other editors names, and revert their work without discussion, you may be part of the problem. --] (]) 22:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::::I'll assume good faith that somehow your comments apply to someone other than myself, though the lack of diffs makes the claims questionable. Given QG was involved, I wouldn't be surprised though.
::::::::0RR doesn't address problems with name calling.
::::::::If all you care about is stopping the reverts, then 0RR is one possible solution.
::::::::If you want editors to discuss matters and form consensus, then the imposition of 0RR has been a failure.
::::::::So again, are we here to improve the encyclopedia or not?
::::::::Given that the article falls under WP:AE, there are many other possible solutions, all that involve getting others involved. --] (]) 17:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::I stand by what I said at 17:54. Consider the possibility that if you think it is important to be able to call other editors names, and revert their work without discussion, you may be part of the problem. --] (]) 18:47, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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Hi {{u|John}}, as a former administrator and thus obviously also a former rollbacker, you won't need the following information. But getting a permission (and granting it, admittedly) would only be half as enjoyable (to me, admittedly) without the message I customized for this purpose. So I absolutely have to. Feel free to remove it and welcome back! ] (]) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== Involved block ==


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Hi John, would you please explain who was the target of the personal attack for which you blocked User:Roxy the dog ? Thank you. --] (]) 22:35, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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:The block is fully explained at the blocked user's page. Is your header an accusation? If so, I would be interested to see the evidence you have for that accusation. --] (]) 22:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi John,


After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the ] group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:
::Thank you for your reply. I've looked at the blocked user's talk page, and it is still not clear whom you feel was the target of the personal attack for which you blocked. Could you clarify, please? --] (]) 22:55, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
*Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing ].
:::The block is fully explained at the blocked user's page. Is your header an accusation? If so, I would be interested to see the evidence you have for that accusation.--] (]) 23:22, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
*Users should be informed (or ]) after their edits have been reverted. If warnings repeatedly don't help, ] is the default place to go. In cases of very clear ongoing intentional damage to the encyclopedia, ] can be used.
*Reverting someone's edits may confuse or upset them. Whenever other users message you on your talk page, please take the time to respond to their concerns; accountability is important. For most users who message you, the tone and quality of your answer will permanently influence their opinion about Misplaced Pages in general.
*Because the plain default rollback link does not provide any explanatory edit summary, it ] to revert good faith contributions, even if these contributions are ]. Take the time to write a proper summary whenever you're dealing with a lack of neutrality or verifiability; a short explanation like "<code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code>" or "<code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code>" is helpful.
*Rollback may never be used to ], which you'll notice to be surprisingly tempting in genuine content disputes. Please especially keep the ] in mind. If you see others edit warring, please file a report at ]. The most helpful essay I've ever seen is ]; it is especially important for those who review content regularly.
*If you encounter private information or threats of physical harm during your patrols, please quickly use ] or ]; ideally bookmark these pages now. See ] and ] for details. If you're regularly patrolling recent changes, you <em>will</em> need both contacts sooner or later, and you'll be happy about the bookmarks.


To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to ], and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on ] if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Misplaced Pages. Happy editing!<!-- "User:ToBeFree/rollbackgiven", loosely based on "Template:Rollback granted 3" -->
::::OK, I will give you a couple of days to see if you have anything more after further reflection. --] (]) 23:32, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::There's no point, I won't have anything to add after a couple of days. I stand fully by my block, for the reasons I explained to the blocked user. Your question is a false one, akin to "When did you stop beating your wife?" I did not block for a personal attack directed to a specific user, but for the harassment embodied in the edit for which the user was blocked, following a general warning at article talk and a specific warning at the user's talk page. I note that you have not explained your accusatory header, nor have you modified it to a more neutral or descriptive one. Let me advise you that this sort of hostile behaviour does not promote harmonious working. It is therefore likely that if you continue in this vein, I may reserve the right to take further measures, most likely politely asking you to stay off my talk page. Or you could just change it and say sorry, if as I suspect you have no reason to consider me ] in the area and this was just rhetoric. Your call, of course. --] (]) 23:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


Best regards,<br>] (]) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== Ayurveda restrictions ==
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:Ooooh! Rollback. How very ! ] (]) 22:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Oh heh! I didn't know that's a thing. ] (]) 22:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, now we can all see why users ] to become ] and/or ]. Yay! ] (]) 22:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*Many thanks, {{u|ToBeFree}} and thanks for the really nice message and carefully crafted template. ] (]) 00:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


==Happy Birthday!==
I think the consensus at ] is pretty clear that your ] restriction is unworkable for this article. Do you wish to undertake putting the notice on the talk page voiding the restriction yourself?&mdash;](]) 22:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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A Note on threading:

Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.

Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.

  • If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it.
  • If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it.

I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually. Ping me if you really need to.

please note this is a personal preference rather than a matter of site policy

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January music

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year! John (talk) 20:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Did you listen to the music? (Take the last movement if you have little time, but the yt not the lilypond). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. John (talk) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Lovely! Keep up the good work. John (talk) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I try ;) - My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Fascinating. I had never heard of him. John (talk) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
same for me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Happy birthday! I'm at a birthday celebration ;) - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Lake Michigan Monster

hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on Lake Michigan Monster. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Looks pretty good to me. What does Ceoil think? John (talk) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
He has not been on the past week or so and has not replied to a chat I sent. I guess we will have to wait and see.--Paleface Jack (talk) 23:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

+rollback

Hi John, as a former administrator and thus obviously also a former rollbacker, you won't need the following information. But getting a permission (and granting it, admittedly) would only be half as enjoyable (to me, admittedly) without the message I customized for this purpose. So I absolutely have to. Feel free to remove it and welcome back! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi John,

After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Users should be informed (or warned) after their edits have been reverted. If warnings repeatedly don't help, WP:ANI is the default place to go. In cases of very clear ongoing intentional damage to the encyclopedia, WP:AIV can be used.
  • Reverting someone's edits may confuse or upset them. Whenever other users message you on your talk page, please take the time to respond to their concerns; accountability is important. For most users who message you, the tone and quality of your answer will permanently influence their opinion about Misplaced Pages in general.
  • Because the plain default rollback link does not provide any explanatory edit summary, it must not be used to revert good faith contributions, even if these contributions are disruptive. Take the time to write a proper summary whenever you're dealing with a lack of neutrality or verifiability; a short explanation like "]" or "]" is helpful.
  • Rollback may never be used to edit war, which you'll notice to be surprisingly tempting in genuine content disputes. Please especially keep the three-revert rule in mind. If you see others edit warring, please file a report at WP:ANEW. The most helpful essay I've ever seen is WP:DISCFAIL; it is especially important for those who review content regularly.
  • If you encounter private information or threats of physical harm during your patrols, please quickly use Special:EmailUser/Oversight or Special:EmailUser/Emergency; ideally bookmark these pages now. See WP:OS and WP:EMERGENCY for details. If you're regularly patrolling recent changes, you will need both contacts sooner or later, and you'll be happy about the bookmarks.

To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Misplaced Pages. Happy editing!

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Ooooh! Rollback. How very exciting! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh heh! I didn't know that's a thing. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, now we can all see why users positively flock to become editors of good standing and/or lapsed Admins. Yay! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Birthday cake emojiHappy birthday!
Hi John! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy birthday! Enjoy this special day! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 05:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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