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| == Check sources == | |||
| == Sourced text was replaced with original research at the Electronic cigarette page == | |||
| www.scoop.it/t/the-future-of-e-cigarette | |||
| Is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports reliable for the content? User:LeadSongDog explained it at the ] page . Other editors claim the CDC reports are unreliable. | |||
| http://www.economist.com/topics/electronic-cigarettes | |||
| * {{cite journal |title=Notes from the field: calls to poison centers for exposures to electronic cigarettes--United States, September 2010-February 2014 |journal=MMWR Morb. Mortal. Wkly. Rep. |volume=63 |issue=13 |pages=292-3 |date=April 2014 |pmid=24699766 |url=http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6313a4.htm |author1= Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)}} | |||
| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/electronic-cigarettes/ | |||
| * {{cite journal|last=Centers for Disease Control and Prevention|first=(CDC)|title=Notes from the field: electronic cigarette use among middle and high school students – United States, 2011–2012|url=http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6235a6.htm |journal=MMWR. Morbidity and mortality weekly report|date=6 September 2013|volume=62|issue=35|pages=729–30|pmid=24005229}} | |||
| http://www.tobacco.org/ | |||
| The two sources above were removed from the article. The relevant part of MEDRS is ]. Read under: "The reliability of these sources range from formal scientific reports, which can be the equal of the best reviews published in medical journals, through public guides and service announcements..." | |||
| ==] of ]== | |||
| Can we go ? Trying to remove original research from the article should be easy at the electronic cigarettes article if there were more collaborating. | |||
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| "While some raised concern that e-cigarette use can be a cause of indoor air pollution, the only clinical study currently published evaluating passive vaping found no adverse effects." ''Original research ans misleading text.'' | |||
| Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with ]. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=Draft%3AAyurveda|deleting administrator}}, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at ]. <!-- Template:Db-copyvio-deleted --><!-- Template:Db-csd-deleted-custom --> ] (]) 11:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
| "A 2014 review found that at the very least, this limited research demonstrates it is transparent that e-cigarette emissions are not simply "harmless water vapor," as is commonly claimed, and can be a cause of indoor air pollution. As of 2014, the only clinical study currently published evaluating the respiratory effects of passive vaping found no adverse effects were detected. A 2014 review found it is safe to presume that their effects on bystanders are minimal in comparison to traditional cigarettes." ''Sourced text and neutrally written text (that was blindly reverted).'' See ]. | |||
| == Nomination of ] for deletion == | |||
| I removed the original research and replaced it with sources text. I clearly explained it in my the problems with the article. I removed the POV selected quotes. I expanded the safety section a bit. I replaced original research with sourced text for the second-hand aerosol section. Then an editor blindly reverted back in and deleted sourced text. I think we should go back to before the blind revert was made. I hope editors will help remove the original research from the electronic cigarettes page and help restore the . Blindly in a revert is very disruptive. Another editor blindly reverted back in the and other problems. ] (]) 18:19, 17 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
| <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ], to which you have , is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or if it should be ]. | |||
| ::The person who is not collaborating is ''you''.--]<sup>]</sup> 23:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::I agree, I think your collaborative skills could use some significant improvement QG. Before I interacted with you, I actually had a fairly positive opinion about you, but you really do not work collaboratively (and it shows) even on issues of minor importance. The importance of collaboration is one of Misplaced Pages's most emphasized values. I do hope you take some time to reflect on this and work on communicating with other Misplaced Pages editors in a friendlier and more collaborative manner. It is not a sign of weakness to do so and it poses no threat to your integrity or principles to work this way. If anything, I think it will make your experience (and that of others) more pleasant (and it should be) and make your editing more effective. ] (]) 07:53, 10 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Canvassing talk page lurkers as well? Nice. To those i'd say that they should join the above discussion at ] --] 21:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| There is a discussion at ] for the CDC reports as well. ] (]) 02:40, 18 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Dispute resolution re McNeill for Electronic cigarette article== | |||
| I requested dispute resolution with respect to ] here: | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Electronic_cigarette#Violation_of_consensus | |||
| <p>Please join the discussion. ] (]) 22:48, 31 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == <s>Copyvio on Health effects of electronic cigarettes</s> == | |||
| == ] == | |||
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| I have blocked your account for one week in response to and others which disrupt the editing process there. If you are willing to refrain from making such edits in the future I or any admin may happily reverse the block. This can be accomplished either by pinging me here or by using the <nowiki>{{unblock|your reason here ~~~~}}</nowiki>. I hope that you will see the error of your ways and wait until consensus is achieved in the talk page RfC before making any further edits to the article. Best wishes. --] (]) 21:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Withdrawn.⸺] 07:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==<s>CCI Notice</s>== | |||
| {{unblock reviewed | 1=The talk page RfC is about the tag. It was not about the text. I did previously add the material but this time I made a proposal and I . When I that shows I am waiting for consensus. Once more, I did not restore the material again when I reverted my last edit. There is a discussion at ]. ] (]) 21:53, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | accept = Very well, I accept that you did not intend to be disruptive and that you will not continue to edit war. Please review the restrictions at ] as you were advised several days ago before continuing to edit here. ] (]) 23:52, 4 November 2014 (UTC)}} | |||
| <s>Hello, QuackGuru. This message is being sent to inform you that a '''request for a contributor copyright investigation''' has been filed at ] concerning your contributions to Misplaced Pages in relation to ]. The listing can be found ]. Thank you. <!--Template:CCI-notice--> ⸺] 04:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</s> | |||
| ===Note to reviewing admin=== | |||
| :{{ping|Randomstaplers}} QuackGuru always followed sources very closely to minimize misinterpretation of what the source said but, as I remember, the wording was substantially rearranged and not a copyvio problem. I know copyright checking is painful and I don't want to add to the stress but would it be possible to give, say, two examples of text added to Misplaced Pages and the corresponding originals? I had a quick look at ] but found it hard to identify a problem. Perhaps you could add an example at ]. Thanks. ] (]) 05:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| The edit QG is highlighting was not one of the ones I blocked for. I see , , attempts to add the material in question to the article, yet I do not see any firm consensus in the talk page discussion that this material belonged there. Three edits in three days is edit warring and is disruptive. Once again, if you can indicate you know what you did wrong and are willing not to repeat the behaviour I am happy for you to be unblocked. --] (]) 21:59, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| <s>::* @]: Go to https://copyvios.toolforge.org/ and paste in the URLs from the CCI. This is pretty bad.⸺] 05:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</s> | |||
| Withdrawn. So far only one copyvio. Sorry for the trouble. I'll leave this up in case anyone else is confused. ⸺] 07:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Withdrawn the CCI, only one actual copyvio so far: this , with this . ⸺] 07:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :I was asked to take a look at this. Normally I'd say this block (and Bladesmulti's) were pretty aggressive, but now I see the article and talk page have been problematic for a while, and John read the riot act to people back in October. At the risk of being accused of being part of the ], I'm inclined to give pretty broad discretion to admins willing to try to keep a lid on things that are constantly boiling, as long as it's being done evenly and fairly. "Evenly" seems true. I guess my only question about "fairly" is: Was QG aware of this rule about not adding ''anything'' to the article without prior consensus? My admittedly quick look shows QG first edited the page well after the riot act was read. | |||
| ::@] I've gone ahead and addressed it. Hoping that's all of them.⸺] 08:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks for your work! ] (]) 09:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :QG, it looks like John is being pretty flexible about unblock conditions. Do I understand right (John) that you'd take a promise not to reinsert anything significant without prior consensus as reason to unblock? Is this something you (QG) are willing to agree to? --] (]) 22:48, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Nomination for deletion of ] == | |||
| ::I was not aware about a rule about discussing editing first before making them. The talk page RfC is about adding the category pseudoscience. That is a different issue than the text I added. For my last edit I did and I was waiting for consensus first. I was not going to repeat adding the material back in at that point. When I reverted my last edit that indicates I was agreeing to wait for consensus. I did self-revert and I agree to wait for consensus. ] (]) 23:09, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> – ] (]) 05:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==What "update"?== | |||
| I reverted your edit at ]. Please explain, what is this "update"? No explanations given ever so far. ] (]) 22:19, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :The "rheumatoid arthritis" 2005 Cochrane review was moved to ]. | |||
| :See: "A 2005 Cochrane review concluded that acupuncture use to treat rheumatoid arthritis "has no effect on ESR, CRP, pain, patient's global assessment, number of swollen joints, number of tender joints, general health, disease activity and reduction of analgesics." | |||
| :{{cite journal|title=Acupuncture and electroacupuncture for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis|journal=Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews|year=2005| volume=2005 |issue=4|pages=CD003788|doi= 10.1002/14651858.CD003788.pub2|editor1-first=Lynn|url=http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab003788.html|accessdate=6 May 2008|pmid=16235342|last1=Casimiro|first1=L|last2=Barnsley|editor1-last=Casimiro|first2=L|last3=Brosseau|first3=L|last4=Milne|first4=S|last5=Robinson|first5=VA|last6=Tugwell|first6=P|last7=Wells|first7=G| last8=Casimiro|first8=Lynn |displayauthors= 4 | archiveurl= http://web.archive.org/web/20080413045937/http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab003788.html| archivedate= 13 April 2008}} | |||
| :I updated and expanded the section. ] (]) 22:23, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Sanctions == | |||
| I don't think there is anything that can be done about the rather high handed restrictions and now sanctions John has imposed. Ride them out and start afresh. | |||
| For my part, I haven't made any useful contribution to the AV article, except to attempt to hold back the wave of fringe pushing, woo supporting ignorance that resides on that page. It is a terrible shame, but those editors who have decided to not bother because of the silly imposition of restrictions are probably right. True believers have won, the spread of ignorance ratchets onwards. I haven't decided if I will dewatchlist or not. -] (]) 23:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Sometimes the best thing you can do is to walk away and let the article deteriorate into a bad condition. With luck it will become so glaringly bad that no reasonable person takes it seriously. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:20, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| I agree with your edits to that page. Please let me know if the issue comes up again. ] (]) 07:41, 11 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI regarding Cheesy == | |||
| You may be interested in this discussion: ]. <code>]]</code> 05:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:07, 30 December 2024
This user is taking a kit kat-break.
Check sources
www.scoop.it/t/the-future-of-e-cigarette
http://www.economist.com/topics/electronic-cigarettes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/electronic-cigarettes/
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- @Randomstaplers: QuackGuru always followed sources very closely to minimize misinterpretation of what the source said but, as I remember, the wording was substantially rearranged and not a copyvio problem. I know copyright checking is painful and I don't want to add to the stress but would it be possible to give, say, two examples of text added to Misplaced Pages and the corresponding originals? I had a quick look at Health effects of electronic cigarettes but found it hard to identify a problem. Perhaps you could add an example at Talk:Health effects of electronic cigarettes. Thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 05:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
::* @Johnuniq: Go to https://copyvios.toolforge.org/ and paste in the URLs from the CCI. This one is pretty bad.⸺RandomStaplers 05:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Withdrawn. So far only one copyvio. Sorry for the trouble. I'll leave this up in case anyone else is confused. ⸺RandomStaplers 07:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq Withdrawn the CCI, only one actual copyvio so far: this Diff, with this document. ⸺RandomStaplers 07:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq I've gone ahead and addressed it. Hoping that's all of them.⸺RandomStaplers 08:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work! Johnuniq (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq I've gone ahead and addressed it. Hoping that's all of them.⸺RandomStaplers 08:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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