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The result was keep. Spartaz 19:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Rebeca Linares

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An undistinguished pornstar failing both WP:GNG and WP:PORNSTAR. Her only award was a scene-related one. She has made no unique contributions to porn, has never starred in any blockbusters, and is not in any Hall of Fame. She received some some minor, non-mainstream coverage in the Spanish media (A documentary called "Come to my Las Vegas, Baby" on Canal+) that is not widespread enough to fulfill the demands of WP:GNG. Redban (talk) 15:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. Redban (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep, plainly inaccurate rationale, the subject passes WP:PORNBIO per her Ninfa Award as Best Supporting Actress (which is clearly a non-scene-related award) and I don't see how a whole documentary about the subject broadcast on Canal+ should be considered "minor coverage" and "non-mainstream" (!). Subject also easily passes WP:GNG including coverage on mainstream sources such as El Mundo , 20 minutos , , RTVE , EITB , magazine Primera Línea (here a summary of the August 2006 issue) and more , . Clearly NOT "an undistinguished pornstar". Cavarrone 17:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The Ninfa Award is not "Well-known and significant." Hence, I disregarded it and believe she fails WP:PORNSTAR. If her only claim to notability is her Spanish sources, then why not leave her page on Spanish Misplaced Pages and delete her page here (if that is allowed)? I feel that's the better alternative, as those sources you've listed don't resonate with an English-speaking audience. Redban (talk) 17:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

First there is no excuse for writing inaccurate, tendentious deletion rationales, and it is not the first time you do it. Second, based on which rule should we disregard Spanish sources? Are you kidding us? Cavarrone 17:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep. Linares passes WP:PORNBIO. The FICEB Ninfa Award for Best Supporting Actress is well known and significant. Please stop sending articles on notable porn actors to AfD. This is disruptive behavior. You have been warned about this several times already. Please stop wasting our time. For those users who don't know what's going on, Redban recently participated in an Afd for Audrey Bitoni, an article he wanted to be kept but was deleted. He declared during that discussion "Either this page remains or you remove 99% of the pornstar biographies on Misplaced Pages". Rebecca1990 (talk) 17:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep per above - Clearly passes PORNBIO - Someone ought to block Refdan as clearly he's nominating per WP:IDONTLIKEIT. –Davey2010 • (talk) 17:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
• Comment. The hypocrisy here is pretty rank. There are editors with long histories of misrepresenting the terms of PORNBIO, disrupting AFD discussions by casting aspersions, and worse, and related misbehavior, but non of the editors who object here have made similar comments about editors who share their sympathies. Redban is a clumsy new editor, but virtually all of his nominations are plausible enough to survive speedy keeps, and his underlying claims are generally plausible -- as here, where the "Ninfa Prize" is a trade show award that wouldn't be treated as demonstrating notability in other fields. It's not inherently disruptive to hold minority views in AFD discussions -- if it were, Rebecca1990 would already be topic-banned. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

• Hullaballoo, frankly I do not even care about the award in this case, even if saying in the deletion rationale "Her only award was a scene-related one" is obviously inaccurate and misleading. How a Canal+ biographical documentary enterely devoted to the subject could be marked as non-mainstream and minor coverage? And how a ridicolous response like this one is not offensive (especially for someone like me who created literally a couple thousand articles only based on Italian sources), and a complete joke? Rebecca1990 is dead right here, the facts (and Redban's own words) speak for themselves, Redban is only making fun of us/trolling and I am also dead certain you would agree if Redban would show the same attitude in another field. About hypocrisy, I am used to participate in AfDs related to every field, and, if requested, I can easily provide in your talk page bunches of links that show I have the same attitute towards disruptive nominators in any field (including opening discussions at WP:ANI against ponty AfDs, something I was extra-cautious to do in this case, at least until now). Cavarrone 19:40, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Having given Redban enough rope to hang himself, it's become evident that this is a sock account of a porn enthusiast repeating the behavior of User:Dekkappai a while back, taking deliberately disruptive positions in order to discredit the "side" he objects to. (I wouldn't be all that surprised if they turn out to be that user, but the old ID is too stale to trace.) Given some of the absurd and disruptive behavior that's arisen in response, it should be evident that this has become a situation where trolling and disruption is being rewarded. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk)`

• Keep - Linares is a Spanish actress, and the FICEB Awards are "well-known" within Spain & a "Best Supporting Actress" award is a "significant industry award" in just about any industry outside of adult films. So-called "trade show awards" are also not at all unique to the adult film industry.

This is yet another disruptive & pointy AfD by a relatively new Misplaced Pages user. Guy1890 (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

• Keep. The FICEB Nifna award for Best Supporting Actress is sufficiently well-known and significant to satisfy PORNBIO. • Gene93k (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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