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| Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. -- ] (]) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Happy New Year! ] (]) 20:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :: Did you listen to the music? (Take the last movement if you have little time, but the yt not the lilypond). --] (]) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. ] (]) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Lovely! Keep up the good work. ] (]) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: I try ;) - My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --] (]) 10:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Fascinating. I had never heard of him. ] (]) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::: same for me --] (]) 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Don't ya mean - 1 January ''2015''? ] (]) 15:07, 1 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Oops, yes I do. Thank you. --] (]) 16:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on '']''. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. ] (]) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :Looks pretty good to me. What does {{u|Ceoil}} think? ] (]) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thank you and the same to you! --] (]) 01:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| Just a ping. - Dank (]) 23:10, 1 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :Also see ]. - Dank (]) 23:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Hi John, | |||
| ::Hmm. That anybody thinks "a number of" is better prose than "some" astonishes me, but I suppose it takes all sorts. On Misplaced Pages we are not paid by the word, and where meaning is similar, shorter is better. As regards the "brighter... brighter ... brighter.... brighter" question, I always like to see the TFA blurb look like brilliant prose. While there can be a danger of ] if the changes are random, I stand by both these edits and intend to continue to improve TfA blurbs as long as I have the power to do so. Thanks for the ping. --] (]) 02:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Heh, I'm not looking to take away anyone's power ... I'm looking to go in the opposite direction ... I'd like to see the TFA paragraphs (blurbs) become some kind of group project, and you're certainly invited to the group, but I don't know yet what kind of pushback I'm going to get on that. On these two points: there's at least a suggestion in AmEng dictionaries that "several" and "a number of" might not be interchangeable, that they're both vague but that the second is vaguely more than the first, so I haven't previously been swapping one for the other; but personally, I'd prefer to rewrite "a number of" when I see it, and it looks like we've got support for that. On the second point, I liked your switch to "stronger" but agreed with the suggestions over at WT:ASTRONOMY, so I've added the word "apparent". - Dank (]) 05:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I believe it was ] about a year ago who invited me to copyedit these blurbs as they come out, so I consider myself already invited, but thanks for endorsing the invitation. As a mathsy/sciency sort of a guy I particularly hate "a number of". Not only is it lazy, longwinded, pretentious and vague, but it is meaningless when read literally, as ], ], negative nine and the ] are all perfectly respectable numbers. You may be right that the habit of turgid and pompous prose is stronger among Americans (I worked as an English teacher in California for ''a number of'' years and can vouch anecdotally for this) but it is not a habit to be encouraged and is not compatible with the criterion of "brilliant prose", I would maintain. --] (]) 12:57, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::We may have gotten off on the wrong foot here, which surprises me, but I don't see anything here we can't work out ... our copyediting sentiments usually agree, and when they don't, there are ways to get answers. I'm tied up for a couple of days, I'll come back to this soon. One thing: I have never said anything remotely like "the habit of turgid and pompous prose is stronger among Americans". - Dank (]) 14:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::No worries Dan and sorry to have given you that impression. I care passionately about language as I know you do too. Disagreement is important in order that we can drag things forwards. You're right, you said you had seen "a suggestion in AmEng dictionaries that "several" and "a number of" might not be interchangeable" and I paraphrased it to "the habit of turgid and pompous prose is stronger among Americans". I certainly wouldn't want to cause any sort of offence as obviously no one country has a monopoly on good or bad writing. I too am rather busy and it will be next week before I am back in my routine again. Take care, --] (]) 15:40, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Thanks, agreed with all of that. The only edit of yours (of many) that I'd prefer that you revert is . If I understand correctly, your point is that the word "apparent" is redundant and this isn't something that should confuse people. I think what the people at ] are saying is that they prefer the word because (by implication, in their experience) people do get confused about the difference, even if they shouldn't ... and that's my experience too. I don't read the word as strictly redundant here. And it's a word that people familiar with astronomy will be looking for to give them confidence that ''we'' know what we mean. - Dank (]) 16:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Let me have a look at that and see what I can do. --] (]) 16:06, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::Looks good. - Dank (]) 16:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Always a pleasure to work with you. These blurbs are probably too important to be done by one person or a small group. Generally the more eyes the better. --] (]) 16:40, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::Likewise, John. Btw, two of your edits got reverted; "brightest" and "noted" got re-inserted. If you're wondering what I'm going to do about it ... I don't know yet, I need a few more days. I know what I'm looking for ... I'm looking for a lot of people who know something about the prose standards at both TFA and their home wikiproject, so they can help explain practices that often don't make sense to wikiprojects (and sometimes aren't followed at FAC). I'm thinking about how to get there. Your thoughts are welcome. - Dank (]) 05:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::I saw. Repeating the word ''brightest'' over and over is just clunky writing. Saying something is ''notable'' on either a Featured Article or its blurb is beyond the pale. I have re-reverted this one and left the user a note. We have a few days before this one is due to run. Let's hope it can be resolved. --] (]) 14:07, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| Best regards,<br>] (]) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Furthermore, the top already links to the ] page. It is sufficiently adequate without complicating things further. ] (]) 22:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I see you are still quite new here. I will fix up the error you made (you should have used undo rather than revert) and we can continue this conversation in article talk. --] (]) 22:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :Done. --] (]) 13:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| - and I love the "Add something, get reverted, readd it and then discuss" tactic. ] - ] 13:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I am looking. Give me a day or so. --] (]) 14:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Ideomatic matter == | |||
| Hello again John! I hope You have had a pleasant Christmas and New Year. I cannot really comrahend that we now are in the 16th year of this millenium, the 1999-2000 New Year feels almost as yesterday. To the matter, I've written about the ] between Elsinore (Danish: '''H'''elsingør) and '''H'''elsingborg. It's far from finished. But as I read the lead , I noticed that I had written "line" were it really should be "route" (the ''route'' has been operated by many sipping ''lines'' through the history. But as I didn't want to use the word "route" finishing one sentence and begin the next with "The short route", I began looking for a synonym. First I thought of "path" but discovered and choose the word "itinerary" (a word I've never even heared before). So my question is, is "itinerary" ok, entirely wrong or perhaps too difficult (There are word in my native Swedish I don't comprahend and hence assume such words exists also in the very synonyme rich Engling language) Any possible comment would be appriciated. ] (]) 15:01, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I had a quick look at it and I am confident that I can improve it by copyediting it. I will try to look in the next few days. --] (]) 16:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::That wood be nice, thanks! If there are spelling errors like "ertor" instead of "error", I want to tell You that I have got a disturbing problem with my right eye. It's like looking in water. It came after (not due to) I began wrighting this article. | |||
| ::Aside of the article, would You say that the word "itinerary" is understood as "route" by a majority of British people. I think this is the first time ever I've used a word of which I never before had heared of. ] (]) 22:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi John. Happy New Year! Do you think this article is ready for a new FAC? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 16:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I am on holiday for the next couple of days. I should be back to normal by Tuesday or Wednesday and will give your question the attention it deserves then. --] (]) 16:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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January music
Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Lake Michigan Monsterhey, it has been a while since I have done major work on Lake Michigan Monster. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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