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I am reaching out to seek your assistance regarding ]. A while ago, a template was placed listing items that needed correction. These issues have since been addressed. However, as I am relatively new here, I do not feel comfortable removing the template on my own authority.
I like the photo on your user page. lol. Very nice. Just to smile at you for being nice to everybody, I noticed. ] 03:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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*Added refs to ]. Will work on the others. Some of these articles go back quite a few years! ] (]) 04:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
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So, you might want to look over these articles since the editor who PROD'd them is likely to send them to AFD. Thanks for your contributions on the project. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 23:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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*{{ping|Liz}} Thank you so much for this notification and for your wise actions. It has been a long and arduous road to build up articles about the "History of the Jews in ____" on WP but they are all parts of a much greater whole as can be seen in ]. Now for someone not sensitive to the goals of the over-all project of building up a comprehensive history of the Jews in all countries on WP to start dismantling the articles bit by bit, we will be left with nothing in the end because there are only long histories of Jews that have historical records in relatively few countries. Please contribute to the AfD discussion at ] and cast your vote and make your voice heard, as a lot of the WP Judaic editors, see ] and ], have put in a lot of work into these type of articles over the last twenty+ years on WP but have since retired and cannot defend their work so it is up to me as a "lone ranger" survivor on WP and I cannot cope with such a large load of editorial and defensive work. I am only one man, so your help would be invaluable. Thanks so much for your understanding. Best wishes, ] (]) 04:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi, is there any way you can help here with an editor who insists on adding extraneous and libelous information to these articles? See . Thank you, ] (]) 15:39, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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*{{ping|Yoninah}} Thank you for contacting me. I took a look, and while it is legitimate to add a "Criticism" section to an article, it is not acceptable to drag extraneous issues into a biography of a living person, a clear violation of ignoring the rules of ] & ] that is obviously meant to smear and drag and damage that person by exaggerating and distorting things that are not even backed up by ] & ]. Therefore please see ] and my edit summary "Create ==Controversy==, remove stuff that has nothing to do with him but belongs in an a Weiss-Dodelson affair article, Zlotowitz was tangentially involved. Add controversy to ] & ] as Dodelson supporters to be even" . Thank you and keep me posted, ] (]) 07:26, 7 November 2014 (UTC)


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Hi ], I saw that you requested the move of ] to ]. I explained on ]'s Talk page why I reverted, and you can read the previous move discussion that followed the last undiscussed move to that title earlier this year on the article's Talk. Generally, I would caution against mass-moving all Jews in articles to History of the Jews in , because a lot of articles pertain to very contemporary communities, "the Jews in X" implies that it's about one group called the Jews and what some of them got up to in this country, while many sources on these communities refer to, for instance, Moroccan Jews rather than the Jews in Morocco. <span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧁</span>]<span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧂</span> 16:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Hi ], I appreciate that you feel differently about this than I do, but I feel the tenor of your responses—accusing me of {{tq|making up a new set of "criteria"}} to move the article {{tq|based on all sorts of unfounded and fanciful reasons such as "concisenes"{{sic}} and "Jews as foreigners" }}, is needlessly personal and uncivil. To be clear: you moved a page against prior consensus, got reverted as is standard procedure per ], and then started personally attacking the editor who reverted your undiscussed consensus-ignoring move. Please stop writing angrily about my fancifulness and baseless usurpation of twenty years of tradition, and I would appreciate it if you struck the irrelevant personal comments about me in your move request. <span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧁</span>]<span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧂</span> 22:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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:::I’m not going to put comments about your conduct at the requested move discussion; they belong here and would be derailing over there. Accusing me of taking advantage (of what?) in an effort to push my POV across all of Misplaced Pages, apparently because I initiated discussions arguing for a revert of three undiscussed moves many months ago, is really way beyond reasonable. That I may have a minority view is not evidence of bad faith. Again, to recap: you ignored prior discussion and consensus to perform an undiscussed move, got reverted, and you are now accusing me of “alarming” POV-pushing and manipulation. Kindly stop casting aspersions, and again I ask that you strike the irrelevant attacks from your post at the move discussion. And in the future, please do not ignore prior discussions and consensus (if you don’t like the consensus ruling, that is neither my fault, as I didn’t close or enact the move, nor an excuse to ignore it) to perform undiscussed moves. <span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧁</span>]<span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧂</span> 02:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Zanahary}} I have apologized at the discussion page for what may seem to you as my over-zealousness responding to your ]. Honestly I was not aware that you had blocked the 3 articles from being ]D as I did not look at the talk pages of those articles. I was going under the standard working assumption of over 20 years of editing "History of the Jews in ___" articles when I have many times moved articles titled "Jews in ____" to the correct form of "History of the Jews in ____" and have never had any problems until I ran into your ] attitudes for ], ], ] and experienced your unbending hold on the titles of these articles that got me thinking whether you would stop with these 3 and that you maybe had plans for the whole series of hundreds of articles titled "History of the Jews in ____" such as in ] etc. Again, please pardon any misunderstanding. I do not see the need to strike anything as it's all relevant to this discussion. ] (]) 03:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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I apologize. You deleted the reference to the category "History of Israel" (which looked suspicious) and replaced it with a word which reminded me "liar" (with a spelling mistake), so I understood it as a vandalism. Actually, I know the אייר month name in Hebrew only , and did not realized that "lyar" is the English name. I am very sorry. Please forgive me. ] (]) 08:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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  • @Liz: Thank you so much for this notification and for your wise actions. It has been a long and arduous road to build up articles about the "History of the Jews in ____" on WP but they are all parts of a much greater whole as can be seen in Category:Jewish history by country. Now for someone not sensitive to the goals of the over-all project of building up a comprehensive history of the Jews in all countries on WP to start dismantling the articles bit by bit, we will be left with nothing in the end because there are only long histories of Jews that have historical records in relatively few countries. Please contribute to the AfD discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/History of the Jews in Cambodia and cast your vote and make your voice heard, as a lot of the WP Judaic editors, see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Judaism/Members and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Jewish history/Members, have put in a lot of work into these type of articles over the last twenty+ years on WP but have since retired and cannot defend their work so it is up to me as a "lone ranger" survivor on WP and I cannot cope with such a large load of editorial and defensive work. I am only one man, so your help would be invaluable. Thanks so much for your understanding. Best wishes, IZAK (talk) 04:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi IZAK, I saw that you requested the move of Jews in Madagascar to History of the Jews in Madagascar. I explained on Jfdwolff's Talk page why I reverted, and you can read the previous move discussion that followed the last undiscussed move to that title earlier this year on the article's Talk. Generally, I would caution against mass-moving all Jews in articles to History of the Jews in , because a lot of articles pertain to very contemporary communities, "the Jews in X" implies that it's about one group called the Jews and what some of them got up to in this country, while many sources on these communities refer to, for instance, Moroccan Jews rather than the Jews in Morocco. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi IZAK, I appreciate that you feel differently about this than I do, but I feel the tenor of your responses—accusing me of making up a new set of "criteria" to move the article based on all sorts of unfounded and fanciful reasons such as "concisenes" and "Jews as foreigners", is needlessly personal and uncivil. To be clear: you moved a page against prior consensus, got reverted as is standard procedure per WP:RMUM, and then started personally attacking the editor who reverted your undiscussed consensus-ignoring move. Please stop writing angrily about my fancifulness and baseless usurpation of twenty years of tradition, and I would appreciate it if you struck the irrelevant personal comments about me in your move request. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
@Zanahary: Thank you for contacting me. I was expressing opposition to your own personal WP:POV that runs against a clear WP:CONSENSUS of hundreds of editors over two decades on WP who have stuck to naming articles about the Jewish history of countries and cities etc as "History of the Jews in ___" and NOT as you would like to have it "Jews in ___". Your so-called "consensus" is virtually non-existent because you took advantage of a limited number of articles (3 it seems) and had one or two editors agree with you that over-ran what has been the accepted norm for over 20 years on WP. I am truly alarmed and my fear is that you will use your own precedents to overthrow the existing order of all the articles on WP titled as "History of the Jews in ____" and change them to your POV outlook. For the sake of focusing this discussion let's keep it centralized at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests#Contested technical requests. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 02:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
I’m not going to put comments about your conduct at the requested move discussion; they belong here and would be derailing over there. Accusing me of taking advantage (of what?) in an effort to push my POV across all of Misplaced Pages, apparently because I initiated discussions arguing for a revert of three undiscussed moves many months ago, is really way beyond reasonable. That I may have a minority view is not evidence of bad faith. Again, to recap: you ignored prior discussion and consensus to perform an undiscussed move, got reverted, and you are now accusing me of “alarming” POV-pushing and manipulation. Kindly stop casting aspersions, and again I ask that you strike the irrelevant attacks from your post at the move discussion. And in the future, please do not ignore prior discussions and consensus (if you don’t like the consensus ruling, that is neither my fault, as I didn’t close or enact the move, nor an excuse to ignore it) to perform undiscussed moves. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 02:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
@Zanahary: I have apologized at the discussion page for what may seem to you as my over-zealousness responding to your WP:POV. Honestly I was not aware that you had blocked the 3 articles from being WP:MOVED as I did not look at the talk pages of those articles. I was going under the standard working assumption of over 20 years of editing "History of the Jews in ___" articles when I have many times moved articles titled "Jews in ____" to the correct form of "History of the Jews in ____" and have never had any problems until I ran into your WP:OWN attitudes for Jews in Madagascar, Jews in Taiwan, Jews in Hong Kong and experienced your unbending hold on the titles of these articles that got me thinking whether you would stop with these 3 and that you maybe had plans for the whole series of hundreds of articles titled "History of the Jews in ____" such as in Category:Jewish history by country etc. Again, please pardon any misunderstanding. I do not see the need to strike anything as it's all relevant to this discussion. IZAK (talk) 03:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
I’ve raised this to ANI: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#IZAK casting aspersions after moving against consensus ꧁Zanahary꧂ 03:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion was archived at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1170#IZAK casting aspersions after moving against consensus. IZAK (talk) 00:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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