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== ] article ==

I ] you and for a valid reason. ] is not a ]; stop adding it to the Asexuality article. Also do not that are supported by the text to ]s; per ], Misplaced Pages does not take kindly to neologisms. If you continue to edit the Asexuality article ], engaging in ] or not, you will be ]. ] (]) 22:05, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

: Very sorry indeed; no offense intended. Thanks for fixing the article, and for letting me know Tumblr isn't kosher; I'll see if I can find a third-party peer-reviewed.
: If Bogaert uses the antonym "sexuals" (I don't know if he does, I don't have access to the study), of course we should use it in that paragraph too. I'm a little surprised WP considers "allosexual" a neologism, even though it's been used in peer-reviewed papers since at least , and has spawned derivative terms like , but the is clearly on your side.
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:::OK, thanks again. I'm not a SP (I promise), although I'm flattered you think my copy-paste-tweak skills amount to "inside knowledge". I'm just a rookie who wanted to know what "allonormative" meant and was annoyed WP wouldn't tell me. Your appropriate scolding prompted me to do a lot of homework on WP's intent and policies. On reflection, I'm glad to know WP is defended against well-meaning but over-] editors as well as vandals and axe-grinders. ] (]) 04:19, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

::::It's not any "copy-paste-tweak skills" that caused me to tag you in my mind as someone who has edited Misplaced Pages before editing as FourViolas, whether you are a WP:Sockpuppet or not. It's the fact that you signed your username in to a talk page, something that the vast majority of ] don't initially do unless they are a ], you referred to the ] in (how would you know that something is "un-MoSsy" at that point?), and, in , you used "copyedit" terminology. It's simply highly unlikely that someone who is completely new to editing Misplaced Pages would edit in those ways. But whatever the case, you have been editing in a ] manner, and there is no need to explain yourself to me on whether you edited Misplaced Pages for some time as an IP address or otherwise. ] (]) 05:10, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

::::LOL, and regarding , I did think you were giving me too much credit with the "coaching" bit. ] (]) 05:17, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

:::::Okay, I can see how you'd think that. All I did was read through the MoS and policies (obviously not carefully enough) when I joined, and I'm still getting the hang of .
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== who asked you fourviolas ==

pinethicket has had some disagreement with my edits its between him and me so keep your big nose out of my business you Christian scum <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:44, 6 November 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: In case anyone has a burning desire to see uninteresting vandalism, the above is i/r/t ] on ].] (]) 11:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

== My article ==

I was working on my article, sorry for posting it in the wrong place.

But why did you delete it? At least you saved the code? I need it.
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:See your ]. ] (]) 03:13, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

== thank you ==

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in the middle its in French). It looks like this has no end in sight. good luck--] (]) 14:04, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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== Useful next projects ==

Hi FourViolas. It's nice to meet you too, and kudos for your good work on ]! Regarding your query about useful next projects, there are so many opportunities! Lately I've been focused on making ballet understandable to the masses by explaining things in layman's terms and adding images (e.g., ], ]). I failed miserably, however, in my attempts to do this with ] which, according to sources, is either a dance style or a training system. Obviously it cannot be both at the same time and therefore must have two distinct meanings, but I've been unable to make this clear in the article in an uncontroversial way. If this is of interest to you, it could be a useful next project. Best regards, ] (]) 17:23, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

:Thank you, ]!
:I'll have to keep thinking about it, but I don't really feel like the Vaganova article presents a problem. Although this probably isn't very apparent to non-dancers, I think it can be both a style and a pedagogy. Teaching dance isn't like teaching calculus, where you can explain in different ways but will always end up with the same set of theorems; it's fuzzy and slippery and complicated, and each training system has idiosyncrasies which will show on its students. For example, Vaganova students usually hold their center of gravity all but behind a stable position (to ensure activation of their core muscles), and that has a detectable effect on how pirouettes, for example, are executed.
:Does that make sense? I'm trying to say that it's a training style, because it's a set of exercises and technical specifications which can guide a student from novice to professional, but it also counts as a performance style because a trained eye can tell a Vaganova dancer from a Cecchetti. ] (]) 12:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

::Thanks for the thoughtful reply, FourViolas. What you say is insightful and makes sense, but it doesn't offer relief from what troubles me about the article: Sources define "Vaganova method" as either a style or a pedagogy, whereas the article defines it as some sort of homogenous "style-pedagogy". A dancer can learn and perform Vaganova style without ever having been exposed to the Vaganova training system. A teacher may employ the Vaganova training method to teach the Vaganova style to dancers. It seems obvious that the training method and performance method are merely cousins -- two different meanings of "Vaganova method" that could (and probably should) be discussed in separate paragraphs. Sorry for venting on you; I'm just frustrated because I've been told more than once that the article is fine as is because style and pedagogy are a single, inseparable topic, as evidenced by a litany of disconnected facts that don't really support that hypothesis. ] (]) 18:27, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

:::Yes, I see what ] mean. I agree that it's possible for a dancer to perform Vaganovistically without having gone through classical Vaganova training, and the article should definitely reflect that—if and when we can find a RS. (Dance scholarship is, alas, so spotty that it's hard to avoid ] when editing in this area—most of my work on ] is flirting with originality, although I think I dug up good sources for most of it.) Here's an idea: could you find a review which mentions, say, a ] soloist ''not'' trained at the ], and expresses admiration for their mastery of Vaganovan performance style despite their lack of V training? That would probably be enough to justify a clarification of the distinction.
:::Thanks again for your prolific and valuable contributions! ] (]) 20:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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==Mary Cannon==
Excellent work. I took the liberty of adding categories - please add any more you see fit.

By the by, the viola is probably my favorite of the string family. Beautiful instrument...grossly misunderstood and sadly underutilized. (I really can't think of any concertos for it that I enjoy, save possibly one.)

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:Thank you! I'm flattered—I'm new to WP, but had already noticed your prolificacy and celebrity. I thought I'd forgotten something, but I didn't know what; those categories look great.

:There are a decent number of Baroque and early-Classical viola concertos (, , ), but then there's a dreary, violin-dominated drought until 20th-century composers like start taking the viola seriously again. If your tastes fall in the Romantic interlude, there are practically no concertos, although I can point you to some lovely viola-solo works like the and .

:Thanks for your kind words! ] (]) 18:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

::You're quite welcome. Thank you for yours as well. (I'm a celebrity? <strike>Get me out of</strike>...er, who knew? :-) )

::I must confess to not being a big fan of Hindemith in general. (Too prickly for me, I'm afraid.) I'm a Romantic at heart, and I do love some neo-Romantic stuff as well. The one contemporary concerto I rather like is by ] - it's available on Naxos, if you ever want to give it a listen. And I'd forgotten, but there's an excellent pair of sonatas by ] that I discovered on a disc with some ] - gorgeous pieces, well-worth a look if you know someone who's looking for obscure rep to perform. I'm not sure if scores are available online, but at least there are recordings... --<font face="Old English Text MT">]</font><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 01:20, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

::: Hindemith certainly is prickly. I've always thought his music sounds unappetizing on recordings, but uncurls to reveal a surprisingly tender, fuzzy underbelly in concert.

:::Thanks for telling me about those wonderful pieces! The Liviabella sonate made my day. You might be interested in an album I was given recently, , on which ] plays ], ]'s Elegy, ]' Romance, and some rarer works. ] (]) 04:57, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

::::Oooooooh, the Clarke. How ''could'' I forget that one? It's one of my favorite twentieth-century chamber works. And I do love Hyperion - I shall have to look for it.

::::I have developed, of late, an interest in twentieth-century Italian instrumental music, orchestral and chamber, and have found quite a bit available on recordings. The Liviabella is from Tactus, which does fine work in that arena. (Lots of Italian salon music, too - I have a number of their discs.) I'm waiting on a couple of things from Naxos as part of my after-Christmas present - the complete chamber works of Respighi and ], about whom I know very little. We'll see how those turn out... --<font face="Old English Text MT">]</font><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 06:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

May I echo the words of Ser Amantio and thank you for your excellent work. It is a pleasure to see a user whose first biography on WP is as good as that – certainly it is much better than my first efforts. Did you know that you can add articles to more than one WikiProject? I have added the Biography and Pyschology projects and added assessments on the talk page; while shorter than many C class articles, it is well sourced etc. so in my opinion it merits it.

Have you considered nominating the article for ]? This is a good way to get more people, readers and editors alike, to see it, and with a "hook" like {{tq|did you know that Mary Cannon's research group found that one-fifth of Irish 11- to 13-year-olds have experienced "auditory hallucinations"?}}, I think it would be successful.


== Removing cow-dog picture (discussion in ] article) ==
Also, as a viola player, I'm glad to meet some other people who actually appreciate it :) ] (]) 19:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


Your opinion is sought here: {{section link|Talk:Speciesism|Removing cow-dog picture}}. ] (]) 17:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you! I appreciate your help. I wouldn't have known to add those WProjects or nominate it at DYK. I ] to see what happens.


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:You're very welcome, ]! You're already doing great work as what we call a "]" in an area which needs people like you. Articles related to popular culture often receive help from users who have more enthusiasm than respect for the finer points of our ], so it's great that you're helping to polish things up. You might be interested in joining a topic-specific group, such as ], for to-do suggestions.
:Again, welcome, and please do talk to me if you have any questions or concerns. Happy editing! ] (]) 21:04, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|FourViolas}} It's like you know me too well yeah I'm interested in that ]; thanks for passing it on to me; how do I sign up for it? ] (]) 21:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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