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			In reason of this issue and reviewed, CAZ 4401 has supposedly CAZ 4301 as I saw the parked vehicle at the restaurant has registered in Pampanga (Region III). Meanwhile, CBO series has registered last April 2024 with second hand and newly registered vehicles (ex. Light Truck).
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	Hi ] RE: ] article - As an experienced editor, I believe that the notability banner and reliable sources banners should be removed from this page. Preciado has written widely reviewed books published by Zone Books/the MIT Press, and the City University of New York, and has been the subject of major interviews and reviews at the Paris Review, E-Flux Magazine, and the Times Higher Education, three important publications in arts and publishing. She has also spoken at such important venues in the art world including the Tate Modern, the Museo Nacional Centro de Arte Reina Sofia, and the Museu d’Art Contemporani de Barcelona. I would count these as a string of accomplishments recapped by reliable sources, which support her notability as a writer, artist, and philosopher. I ask therefore, that the notices be removed. Thanks ] (]) 16:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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	== Koyikkal Palace ==

	Dear Friend I found that you removed the getting here title from ] page and saying that wikipedia is not a travel guide. OK But out friend google found lot of articles with info like this ],],],],],] also can find more. So Can we delete all these getting here by just saying '''We are not a travel guide'''. Also added this info because on google search wikipedia result will come first. Giving a primary getting here info will be helpful to locate the place. --] (]) 09:45, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
	* Hi ], thanks for the note. A couple of quick points... First, related issues on other articles are irrelevant. See ]. I removed the material in question from this article because it popped up on my ] queue. I am not on a crusade to fix every related problem on other articles. I also note that in addition to Misplaced Pages not being a tourist guide, that sort of information is almost certainly ] which is another no no. Thanks again for the note. If you have any more questions or concerns please feel free to drop me another line. Best regards...-] (]) 16:38, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
	::Dear Friend, OK ] queue is fine. ] is not intented because the Palace is closed for Public and the archeology dept of kerala restricted public entry. I added the info becuase it is an important place those who study kerala history. I am not expecting you to clear all the problems in that article because you have only primary knowledge about that place. Anyway fine thankyou for cleaning the article. Expecting that you will not place a deletion request there. See you later. Regards, --] (]) 02:59, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
	:::The article may need a little work, but the subject is clearly ]. I don't see any danger of it being deleted. -] (]) 03:02, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

	== Your removals of speedy deletion tags from ] ==

	Please don’t take offense at my saying this, but you seem to have some strange ideas about speedy deletion:
	*You removed the speedy deletion tag from ] with the edit summary, “It is generally considered bad form to CSD an article 2 minutes after its creation. This also raises questions asto how one could have performed any preliminary due dilligence per ]…” I would agree that there is a consensus that in most cases articles should not be tagged under ] or ] moments after creation. But this consensus applies only to those two criteria; the tag that you removed was for ]. And your reference to BEFORE is strange, for BEFORE applies only to AfD: Notice that BEFORE is a section of ], and notice that one the checks to be made under BEFORE is that the article does ''not'' meet the criteria for speedy deletion. (If you had removed the tag on the grounds that the article was not unambiguously promotional, I might agree with you.)
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	I don’t want to get into an edit war with you over this; so I have taken the article directly to AfD. —] ] ] 10:11, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
	:Hmmm. I will take a look at it again when I get a few minutes. Perhaps I misread the original tag. -] (]) 16:03, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
	:'''Update''' I replied in detail on the AfD, but the executive summary is I muffed it. Sorry about that... -] (]) 17:41, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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	Haha! Thanks. I wonder if I can put this on a job application for the State Dept? -] (]) 01:36, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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	I have posted my answer on why this article should not be deleted on the talk page of the article. Please reply there and stop the process of deletion till we arrive at a conclusion. Thanks! ] (]) 06:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
	* I replied on the talk page.-] (]) 06:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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			::::Oh — I'll read more closely and do that. Thank you. —] (he/him) <small>If you ], add <code><small>{{reply to\|Eyer}}</small></code> to your message.</small> 01:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Done! I had stripped it out of a first draft, but messed the formatting up... I went back to your page to get a fresh copy and forget to strip it out again. Thank you for following up with me about that. —] (he/him) <small>If you ], add <code><small>{{reply to\|Eyer}}</small></code> to your message.</small> 01:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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	When I made a change to your ] edit after you submitted it several minutes ago, I added only a few things: a detail about the newspaper that dropped her syndicated column because of her controversial opinion and details about the Overseas Press Club in New York where she revealed publicly that the judge had been biased throughout most of the Sheppard trial. I added a clarification that Kilgallen said this publicly ''at an event that was held'' at the Overseas Press Club in New York, and she did so nine years and some months after Sheppard was convicted of murdering his wife.
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	Before I added these details, readers could have become confused about why the murder conviction of an Ohio doctor in 1954 could have an echo at the Overseas Press Club a long time after that conviction. Why "overseas?" Also, readers could be confused about the time frame: "nine years and some months later" means "nine years and some months" after ... what exactly? It was after the guilty verdict. Sheppard served nine-and-a-half years until his new lawyer F. Lee Bailey released him on a writ of habeas corpus with much assistance from Kilgallen.
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	I have many more comments about the Kilgallen article on the Talk page for it. But I feel you deserve an explanation about the minor changes I made to your edit, so I'm typing this on your Talk page. Thanks for your attention.] (]) 00:53, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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	== ] ==

	Remember this article? Still not finding the sources to show his own notability yet but, I did discover why the press of turn of the century Hawaii seemed a bit obsessed with him. We knew his brother was ] but we didn't really know why John was considered an Ali{{okina}}i and really still do not have that answer but, the two brothers are the sons of Kapuailohiawahine Kanuha Miller. Turns out she was famous in her time as a composer and dancer. Her daughter, and the sister of Samuel and John Miller, is Isabella Miller. Her and her mother both were well known Hawaiian musicians. Isabella is the mother of ] and the three figures are the matriarchs of the most famous musical family in Hawaiian history (or so sources claim). ] is Helen's granddaughter, ] is her grandson and ] and Kapono Beamer are Winona's sons.

	Slowly but surely I am finding reliable sources and the Beamer articles already existed and I stumbled on them when I found a source mentioning their names.--] (]) 20:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
	:If you think that you have enough to establish notability and are planning to recreate the article, I suggest sending it to AfC in order to get some extra eyes on it. That can help prevent any future problems. -] (]) 20:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
	::No plans to recreate the article, but I am beginning to think that there may be enough to create an over encompassing family article. Not yet however. Still needs much research, but things are much clearer on Samuel, just no further details. It has been suggested that there may be further information in the non English Hawaiian Newspapers and that Samuel may have been an artist but, as yet, no further info on him.--] (]) 21:57, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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	Why do you get involved in order to escalate already choppy waters? I have made the effort to communicate my concerns with Softlavender regarding this issue. And no, it began before what you perceive as "problematic editing." You, as well as Softlavender, are diverting away from the real issue. I am not going to take this to ANI - as I've already stated - that when I did so in the past regarding another editor, I made 3 reports and none of them were taken seriously at all. Those administrators perused my reports promptly dismissed them, likely without reading them at all. How's that for taking things seriously? It appears that things need to reach the level that Carrie Archdale did with me in July in order for any appropriate action to occur. You and I are definitely butting heads here, and you also refuse to see my point of view. This is not a matter of stomping my foot. It is a matter of feeling concerned and fearful of an editor who has continually stalked me and my edits for the past 6 months. As an administrator, you ought to be open to all points of view, rather than criticizing me regarding your own incorrect perceptions about this issue. The cyber bullying and stalking is what has gone on long enough here. Don't get involved if you can't take this issue seriously and, instead, make offensive comments like stating it is pointless. That is definitely not helpful as someone who has already experienced freak stalking and cyber bullying here. When is that going to stop? ] ] ] 01:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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	I note that you have, again, commented about this issue on my talk page, and are continuing the issue. You have escalated an already heated issue by having jumped in and continued the argument regarding Softlavender, and now, is unable to tolerate being talked back to. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Such immaturity that is here is incredible and never ceases to amaze me. I have the liberty of placing the comments where I chose. If you can't handle it, as I've stated before, then butt out and don't get involved in the first place. Because you are unable to let this go and leave me alone, you are also a stalker and harasser of me. Really, just back off. Stop looking for trouble that you, alone, are creating. ] ] ] 17:43, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
			::I did nothing randomly. Don't randomly barge in on conversations and make assumptions of bad faith. If you want to know what evidence there is that the user is sockpuppeting, ask, or do some basic investigation - it is not hard to confirm. ] (]) 15:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
			::@131.251.8.82 Good morning. A few quick points. I have zero interest in the content dispute between you and @]. I checked the page history which showed you removing content three times. The last time was after being twice reverted. That is borderline edit warring. I reverted the page back to the state of affairs before your initial removal of content. In doing so I cited ] in my edit summary. When an edit is reverted, the correct procedure is to go the article talk page and discuss the proposed changes and seek consensus. On the other point, editing while logged out ] if you have an account. However it does happen sometimes for one reason or another. In this instance, I'm not seeing any evidence of bad faith on the part of FR who quickly identified themself. FR and I have in fact crossed paths a few times, so their contacting me was not out of the blue. That said, I am an admin and I have people that I have never interacted with in the past contacting me all the time. It comes with the job. My talk page is open to anyone who wants to discuss something with me or has a point to add to an ongoing discussion. In closing, I have no reason to believe either you or FR were acting in bad faith. However the repeated reverting is a no no. The only exceptions are for naked vandalism, obvious copyright violations or serious BLP violations. At this point you should both discuss the matter on the article talk page. Best regards... -] (]) 15:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::If you have zero interest in the article, you should not have edited it. You say "I checked the page history which showed you removing content three times". But if you looked properly, then you also saw content being added three times, once by an IP address, and twice by an account which did not disclose that it was the same person as the IP address. So why only mention my removal of it? And why revert on the user's behalf? Why revert to before I removed the substandard text, and not to before they added it? Where is this prior interaction that has led you to act so favourably towards this user? ] (]) 18:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::@131.251.8.82 I am an admin and part of my job is to deal with disruptive editing, of which ] is a specie. The substance of your dispute is not relevant to the fact that beginning on January 6, you were edit warring to preserve your preferred version of the article. See also ]. I have already addressed your unfounded allegations of socking. See above. Failing to ] makes constructively contributing to a collaborative project difficult and I do not appreciate the implication that I have been biased in my handling of this situation. If you have concerns about the article quality, please discuss them on the article talk page and seek ]. This is turning into an unnecessary time sink and it is time for everybody to move on. -] (]) 18:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:A administrator has helped me. It is just that its deep in my edit history. ] (]) 16:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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Daniel Dungca's Vandalism Issue on LTO License Plates

Hi Ad Orientem,

We have a suspected that Daniel Dungca who typed and posted some disruptive edits due to mistyped and misinformation under the Misplaced Pages English article: History of vehicle registration plates of the Philippines as of now on the timeline.

In reason of this issue and reviewed, CAZ 4401 has supposedly CAZ 4301 as I saw the parked vehicle at the restaurant has registered in Pampanga (Region III). Meanwhile, CBO series has registered last April 2024 with second hand and newly registered vehicles (ex. Light Truck).

Please banned and block the suspected user who annoyed the posted did not understand the guidelines on Wiki community.

Thank you. Jon2guevarra (talk) 00:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@Jon2guevarra I am sorry but I do not understand your message. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Ad Orientem, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
Happy editing,
~Darth Stabro 01:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

~Darth Stabro 01:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Your talk page's welcome message

Hello there. May I adapt your talk page's welcome message for my talk page, with attribution? —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@Eyer Yes, of course. Happy editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:40, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy editing to you, too. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@Eyer A quick suggestion, you might want to remove references to admin stuff from your copy of the talk page notice. Merry Christmas. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh — I'll read more closely and do that. Thank you. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 01:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Done! I had stripped it out of a first draft, but messed the formatting up... I went back to your page to get a fresh copy and forget to strip it out again. Thank you for following up with me about that. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 01:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

And happy holidays as well! Davidgoodheart (talk) 00:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart, Thank you and a blessed feast to you and yours. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

CheckUser changes

Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Help with an IP editor

IP has been cautioned about edit warring. FeistyRooster is cautioned about editing while logged out. No further admin action is required at this time. Discussion regarding article quality or related content disputes should proceed on the article talk page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

There's seems to be a dispute with me and an IP address regarding Hampstead Garden Suburb. Could you just please look at the sort of war (im not at fault) on the article and the ip's talk page and resolve this please? Thanks FeistyRooster (talk) 18:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@FeistyRooster I'm on my way to an appointment. Will have a look when I have a few minutes later today. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ad Orientem Thank you very much FeistyRooster (talk) 18:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Just to add, this IP address also has violated the three revert rule on Hampstead Garden Suburb FeistyRooster (talk) 19:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@FeistyRooster I've restored the pre-edit war version and left a note on their talk page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. FeistyRooster (talk) 07:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, this user has had no previous interaction of any kind with you. They contact you out of the blue, with a post riddled with grammatical errors, baldly claiming "im not at fault", and then they falsely claim that I violated the three revert rule, and you just take them at their word and revert on their behalf? If you had done any basic research of the situation and the user, you would have quickly established that they are sockpuppeting, having used an IP address to add some irrelevant, badly written text to an article, and then used their account to revert my removal of it. They have falsely claimed that an administrator has given them permission to sockpuppet in this way. I find your actions on their behalf to be completely astonishing. 131.251.8.82 (talk) 11:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Please don't randomly accuse others of sockpuppeting without decent evidence Gaismagorm (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

I did nothing randomly. Don't randomly barge in on conversations and make assumptions of bad faith. If you want to know what evidence there is that the user is sockpuppeting, ask, or do some basic investigation - it is not hard to confirm. 131.251.8.82 (talk) 15:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@131.251.8.82 Good morning. A few quick points. I have zero interest in the content dispute between you and @FeistyRooster. I checked the page history which showed you removing content three times. The last time was after being twice reverted. That is borderline edit warring. I reverted the page back to the state of affairs before your initial removal of content. In doing so I cited WP:BRD in my edit summary. When an edit is reverted, the correct procedure is to go the article talk page and discuss the proposed changes and seek consensus. On the other point, editing while logged out is strongly discouraged if you have an account. However it does happen sometimes for one reason or another. In this instance, I'm not seeing any evidence of bad faith on the part of FR who quickly identified themself. FR and I have in fact crossed paths a few times, so their contacting me was not out of the blue. That said, I am an admin and I have people that I have never interacted with in the past contacting me all the time. It comes with the job. My talk page is open to anyone who wants to discuss something with me or has a point to add to an ongoing discussion. In closing, I have no reason to believe either you or FR were acting in bad faith. However the repeated reverting is a no no. The only exceptions are for naked vandalism, obvious copyright violations or serious BLP violations. At this point you should both discuss the matter on the article talk page. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

If you have zero interest in the article, you should not have edited it. You say "I checked the page history which showed you removing content three times". But if you looked properly, then you also saw content being added three times, once by an IP address, and twice by an account which did not disclose that it was the same person as the IP address. So why only mention my removal of it? And why revert on the user's behalf? Why revert to before I removed the substandard text, and not to before they added it? Where is this prior interaction that has led you to act so favourably towards this user? 131.251.8.82 (talk) 18:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@131.251.8.82 I am an admin and part of my job is to deal with disruptive editing, of which edit warring is a specie. The substance of your dispute is not relevant to the fact that beginning on January 6, you were edit warring to preserve your preferred version of the article. See also WP:WRONGVERSION. I have already addressed your unfounded allegations of socking. See above. Failing to assume good faith makes constructively contributing to a collaborative project difficult and I do not appreciate the implication that I have been biased in my handling of this situation. If you have concerns about the article quality, please discuss them on the article talk page and seek WP:CONSENSUS. This is turning into an unnecessary time sink and it is time for everybody to move on. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

131.251.8.82 FeistyRooster (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

A administrator has helped me. It is just that its deep in my edit history. FeistyRooster (talk) 16:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ad Orientem @Gaismagorm If Misplaced Pages's guidelines classify that as sockpuppetry, I am very and truly sorry. I didn't know if I could just log in with email or I had to accept an email that says i tried to log in from a different location. If you want, i could give a link to the discussion FeistyRooster (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Or I could ping the user theirself FeistyRooster (talk) 16:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@FeistyRooster Editing while logged out is something that should be avoided. Sometimes it happens inadvertently. And there may be other times where for very unusual reasons it happens. I have on very rare occasions done so if I am using a public device such as a computer at a library. This is for security reasons to protect my username and password. But in general this is something that really should be avoided to the extent possible. It is only considered socking if it is done with the intent to conceal your identity for improper reasons, such as trying to sway community discussions and the like. If you do edit while logged out, either by accident or for some unusual reason, make sure you identify yourself in order to avoid any questions. Reiterating my point from above, I have no reason to believe anybody here was acting in bad faith. It's best to just move on and discuss the proposed changes to the article on the talk page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.