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I would close these, but I am closing too many of them. However, I can provide procedural help for anyone who is unfamiliar with how to close discussions and would like to help with closing. Thanks! ] ] 22:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Seven discussions still open. '''<span style="color:red;">Erpert</span>''' <small><sup><span style="color:green;">]</span></sup></small> 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Discussion has been ongoing for two months and it's only been getting more heated. No sign of consensus for merging in sight. {{initiated|8 December 2014|type=tfd}} ] (]) 01:25, 1 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
*I second Alakzi's request above. ] (]) 01:40, 1 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
*Also, for a timeline of this TfD see ]. There was a 20-day 'break period' I neglected to mention; I apologise. ] (]) 02:29, 1 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at at ] {{Initiated|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|26 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
This is a discussion on a topic that has, in the past, proved so controversial that ] are in force. For that reason, and because of the general sanctions, it would be very useful for us to actually have an external editor judge whether consensus has been reached or not - as opposed to the discussion just being removed mysteriously from the page with no explanation given beyond an edit summary claiming that no admin is needed. The risk at present is that people might act on a consensus that they believe might exist in this discussion, only to be sanctioned under the general sanctions if admins at ] disagree. It may be that no admin is formally needed to close the discussion - any uninvolved editor can close the discussion after all - but it would be entirely false to say that a close would serve no purpose or is not needed. It really is. | |||
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So would an uninvolved editor please close the discussion. If you feel the point is obvious, then great! In that case, please close it with a statement of the obvious. But it does need to be closed. '']'' <small>'']''</small> 23:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:As the initiator of the discussion in question, I concur with the need for an uninvolved editor or admin to review the discussion and determine whether a consensus has indeed been reached. The whole purpose of this discussion, as {{u|Kahastok}} touched upon, was to determine a consensus for the use of metric vs. imperial units in the infobox of various personnel in association football. Without getting into too much detail here, the desire is to have a WikiProject-wide guideline for the use of height and weight units and how they would be inserted without the need for a discussion on every article which ''might'' be UK related as presently required by ]. The need for an uninvolved editor or admin is to avoid any appearance of the process being railroaded by a few editors. — ] <sup>]</sup><small>]</small><sub>]</sub> 00:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
Clear consensus that the proposed edit (and its amended version) violate ]. However, the owning editor is engaging in ] behavior, repeatedly arguing against the consensus and dismissing others' rationale as not fitting his personal definition of synthesis; and is persistently assuming bad-faith, including . When finally challenged to give a direct quote from the source that supports the proposed edit, it was dismissed with "" and then The discussion is being driven into a ground by an editor who does not (nor wish to) understand consensus and can't be ] with any opposing argument supported by Misplaced Pages policy or guidelines. --] (]) 22:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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This has now been archived ], but a close remains relevant. Would somebody please close it? '']'' <small>'']''</small> 09:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{a note}} Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. ] (]) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|20:47, 7 December 2024 (UTC)}} slowed for a while ] (]) 06:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
This RfC has only been going on for three weeks, but the discussion has well and truly ended, with no contribution for more than a week. (Also, it's a continuation of a previous discussion, and so the issue has been dragging on a long time.) I thought the consensus was clear to exclude the text under discussion, but I checked with the lone "include" !voter and he or she didn't think so. ]] (]) 19:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated| 08:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)}} Participation mostly slowed, should have an independent close. ] (]) 10:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
states : ''This RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges. It is recommended that this RfC be closed by an Admin - one who has no previous involvement in the AfC process.'' This RfC for an emergency measure has run for 11 days and participation has tailed off; a consensus appears to have been reached so would an uninvolved '''admin''' please consider closing it. --] (]) 05:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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From at WP:AN: {{quotation|1=Would an admin assess the consensus the consensus at ] (initiated 5 February 2015)? According to at ], this is an "RfC for an emergency measure". Thank you, ] (]) 00:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:You mean to assess if there is a clear consensus? Despite this being an emergency measure, the RfC itself says "this RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges" so it should probably be allowed to continue to run the 30 days if there is no clear consensus. BTW, I'm seeing !votes on 1st February so I think the 5 February date must be wrong. ] (]) 14:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:::I see that an ''involved party'' (namely, the user making the original proposal) has ''taken it upon himself'' to close the RfC even though he is *not* ], the RfC has only run for 15 of the normal 30 days and the proposal is controversial. I believe this should be reverted at once, but would prefer not to become involved in an edit war by reverting it myself. Comments? ] (]) 06:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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I started this discussion, and I was expecting an automatic closure because I didn't know how the system worked. It was automatically archived. Is it too late? ] (]) 06:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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RFC finished a while back and nobody's commented for around a week. Can an admin please assess consensus and close? ] (]) 22:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Would an an uninvolved administrator please assess the consensus at ] ''after February 16 at 00:16 UTC''. {{Initiated|15 February 2015}} Note that the discussion is over 40,000 words. Thank you. <span style="background-color:#B7D9F9;padding:0px 3px;border-radius:3px">] <span style="border-left:1px solid #0E5CA4;padding-left:3px">]</span></span> 02:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|9 January 2015}}? Please consider the closed RfCs ] (Initiated 6 May 2014) and ] (Initiated 26 November 2014) in your close. Thanks, ] (]) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Note: This is covered in Kraxler's request below where the argument that a close where the closer finds strong arguments against a proposal is not valid, although the policies and guidelines specify that a closer may due so. The Successionbox close is not at issue as the infobox != successionbox. Cheers. ] (]) 14:39, 25 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|11 January 2015}}? The opening poster wrote: "Which version of the income equality section more accurately reflects the findings of the peer reviewed literature reviews, or ?" Thanks, ] (]) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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*{{notdone}} It looks like editors have already resolved this on their own. ''''']''''' ''<font size="1.8">(])</font>'' 02:33, 25 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:The consensus seems clear, but from the page history it seems that this was never advertised as an RfC. As such, I'm not sure if a close would be helpful here, since it could be challenged on the grounds of needing input from a wider section of the community before a site-wide change. Any thoughts on closing with this rationale, and/or reopening the discussion with the RfC template attached? ''''']''''' ''<font size="1.8">(])</font>'' 05:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|29 October 2024}} There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. ]] 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|7 November 2024}} Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. ] (]) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
This thread, which eilicited substantial discussion and polling, has been auto-archived without closure. In fairness to all and to avoid repeating discussion of these issues in the future, an Admin is needed to undo the archiving and evaluate consensus in order to resolve this matter. Thanks. ]] 14:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{a note}} I'm happy to perform the merge if required, as have summarised other sections of this article already with consensus. I realise it's usually expected to perform splits or merges when closing discussions, but in this case it wouldn't be needed. ] (]) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|11:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. ] (] • ]) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|26 December 2014}} Thanks, <code><span style="font-family: consolas;font-weight: bold">]]]</span></code> 21:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Would an admin look at these three DRV discussions, close them and eventually re-close (or relist wit an appropriate rationale) the three relevant AfDs? The situation requires an immediate action, as the AfD closes were vacated and the three AfDs are "virtually" reopened, and, citing one editor, "AfD and DRV running on the same article at the same time is just crazy". ] 07:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Would an uninvolved administrator please assess consensus and close this discussion? Thank you. ] (]) 16:52, 24 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:The RfC was closed with a faulty rationale by ]. Could someby have another look at it. I added a comment there to make clear what I find fault with. ] (]) 13:56, 25 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:'''Oppose''' as the closure was fine except the proposer thinks "arguments against are rather strong" is an invalid close. The proposer now thinks he can unilaterally void the prior RfC by ''I hereby give notice that the previous "consensus" is no further recognized as such. You can't eat your cake and have it too.'' I suggest we abide by ] and recognize that a closer may note '' the arguments against are rather strong'' without facing this sort of request (noting the closer {{U|JzG}} was not notified of this action) ] (]) 14:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC) |
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Talk:Israel–Hamas war#Survey
(Initiated 64 days ago on 7 November 2024) Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. CNC (talk) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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(Initiated 44 days ago on 27 November 2024) Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)