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==Mail==
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*I may have pinged you in a response to a recent message; please see ]. Thank you.
== What emptiness. ==
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== IP range block might need an update ==


Hi Drmies, this post is about the IPv6 range ] that you partially blocked for 1 week from editing AN/I. A little less than an hour later, ] actually site-blocked the singular IP in that range ] for a couple of days with no talk page access. Since then, like happens with many IPv6 connections, the user's IP address switched over to ] very shortly after, which allowed them to continue posting on that previous IP's talk page in spite of the previous IP's block with no talk page access. Given that this is technically block evasion, I'm thinking maybe the /64 rangeblock should be updated to a full one?
==What is this place? ==
]- God of Wisdom ]]
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:Join the club . ] (]) 16:10, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
::Shall we al sit here and feel the ]? ] (]) 16:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


Regards, —&nbsp;] ] 01:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
*Yeah, I left a note for Cullen cause I had to run, but I'll go ahead and stop that yapping. Thanks, ] (]) 01:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
**Yeah, sorry Drmies, my wife and I had to pick up some prescriptions (we're 72), go to the hardware store as part of our ongoing battle against the rats, and stop at Target. We just got home. ] (]) 02:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***I took care of it. Rats? Brrrr. ] (]) 02:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***Yeah they are creepy and filthy and befoul any accessible food, but that's the least of it. They have twice chewed partly through ] fresh water lines in the crawl space under our house, which soaked a lot of insulation too. Very expensive chaos. Second incident discovered today. It's an ongoing debacle and I have a grudge against all rodents at this point. ] (]) 02:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***:{{yo|Cullen328}} Do you routinely distribute rodenticide in key locations? I do so weekly, and the problems are much improved. ] (]) 10:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:{{u|Deepfriedokra}}, we live in a semi-rural area with lots of beneficial wildlife like deer, rabbits and squirrels plus pets like cats and dogs, so pest control professionals prefer to avoid most poisons and rely on traps and repellents instead. There is also the hidden dead rat odor problem. We are going to start a very specialized product called RatX in the next few days. ] (]) 17:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::Oh Lord, rats are a horrible problem. Hope you can get rid of them. Do you guys have any cats? And I think that having a lot of insects and whatnot in your house is considered something of a way of life, but imo, definitely not true nowadays. My house suffers from a lot of ], and my family has been trying to use ] to try and stop them. Strong substance, perhaps, but definitely useful. ] (]) 17:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::I only use the poison in the house- behind stove, fridge, and washing machine. Fortunately they leave before dying. ] (]) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::I use road flares in their burrows outdoors. Close up as many holes as you can find except one, light the road flare and stick it fire side in and cover it up. Carbon monoxide takes care of it. Keeping livestock I have a significant rat population outside that I have to keep in check. As for inside, cats. ] (]) 18:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::{{ec}} Like Cullen, we too live in a rural area. Fortunately, we haven't had any rats (one bat, though - and that was horrible), but we do have mice. Don't know if they'll work with larger rodents, but we leave sticky traps for the mice in our garage, and, thus far, that keeps them out of the house, killing them before they can enter.--] (]) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::Is that better than roaches, {{U|Bbb23}}? ] (]) 19:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::::You'd think an indoor pit bull would prevent rats. She does not. ] (]) 18:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::::Need a ratter, not a big dog. My little lady kills quite a few rats outside. ] (]) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::::Mice are stupid and don't get too trap averse. Much more difficult to trap rats long term. With mice I've found a bucket trap to be very effective. A 5 gallon bucket with a ramp leading to the top. Fill it halfway with water, then cover the water with sunflower seeds. The mice climb up and hop in to get the seeds and can't get out. ] (]) 19:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::::I do think cats make good pets too. They're good at catching mice and rats, as well as defeating snakes. I'm sure the reaction time of a cat is about 20-44 milliseconds compared to a snake which has like 44-70 milliseconds. I also think that cats are the general predator of snakes. But staying on topic, I do feel like it would be best to have a cat as a pet (I certainly don't have a cat, though) for catching rats. ] (]) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


==Top AfC Editor==
:*May I ask {{U|Technical 13}} what was the point to ? Or why archive somebody else's page? ] (]) 20:14, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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*I was, ]?? I had no idea--I think that also shows that it would be good if more people got involved with it. I think the backlog is creeping towards 2,000 again. Anyway, thanks: I appreciate it! ] (]) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
*:@], you probably wouldn't have been if we had an actual full year of data (that data is just from the last month or so). But if you kept up that same pace through the whole year... yeah, maybe you still would be. We truly need all the help we can get. -- ] (]) 18:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


== Season's Greetings ==
If, after having read the comments again, you still disagree with my synopsis (in particular, that 6 out of 7 respondents agree that in some cases it's permissible to make a specification), please let me know why (about ]). Thanks! ] (]) 23:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
*Tropcho, that "the motivation had nothing to do with questions of ambiguity/difficulty of verification" is immaterial: it's a serious problem. In addition, you do not seem to acknowledged that "ethnic/language affiliation" is not an easy yoking together of two terms, which is a serious (BLP) problem recognized by {{U|Pmanderson}} and {{U|Taivo}}. I do not agree with your synopsis, and I do not understand what exactly the problem is: if you have a person, and you wish to include their nationality, ethnic background, linguistic affiliation, mother tongue (or stepmother tongue), blood group, etc., you can propose it on the talk page. You may think that "it's important to state explicitly in the summary that in unambiguous and reliably verifiable cases where ethnic/language affiliation is part of the notability (e.g. national activists, ethnicity researchers, etc.) a specification is permissible", and that six out of seven agreed with your wording, but I disagree, and I'm not going to stick something in the close that I don't see consensus for. Six out of seven? As I said before, there are three '''NO'''s, and how that gets turned into 86% support for your statement, I don't know. You have a way to get the things into the article that you want in, if you have the evidence for it and get the consensus for it; I don't know what more you want. Thank you, ] (]) 23:38, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
::Should I do the count?
::Comments 1-3: yes, it's OK.
::Comment 4 (Taivo) no
::Comment 5 yes, if they unambiguously and verifiably stated it themselves.
::Comment 6 (PMAnderson) bad idea. '''Comment finishes with''' "''If a person was a leader of a Bulgarian or Macedonian ethnic movement - and for some of the history involved these would be the same thing - that's a biographical fact. Include, and source.''"
::Comment 7 In general no, '''with exceptions for those''' where that ethnicity is a significant part of their notability (activist, researcher specifically in ethnicity, etc).


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::So (depending on how you interpret PMAnderson's remark) either 5/7 (comments 1-3, 5, 7) or 6/7 (1-3, 5-7) people think in some cases it's permissible. Two of the "no's" have an important '''except'''.
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::And this is not a BLP problem, because 1) most people on that list are dead 2) we are not talking about the ambiguous cases where we can't know or verify; '''let me emphasize this:''' the question is whether it is permissible to do a specification for '''some people''' on the list (those where we have a way to know unambiguously), '''not''' whether it is permissible to specify everyone's identity. I agree that it's in fact impossible to do the latter. ] (]) 00:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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:::And to answer your question, I'd be happy to see a summary that somehow reflects the 4 (or more) YESes, not only the 3 (or less) NOs. ] (]) 00:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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::::It's not a vote. If there's so much math involved in your summary, perhaps you were asking the wrong question. You can take the matter up at ] (with the other commenters) or at ] (to get this close overturned). Thank you. ] (]) 01:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Very interesting. How much math is counting up to 7? And who said it is a vote? I just suggested a summary that reflects all comments, not the minority. And in case you didn't notice, Taivo's concerns were addressed. Perhaps the question could have been phrased better to avoid any misunderstandings, but even as it is there's no reason to have a summary that completely ignores a significant number of the answers, in my opinion. ] (]) 07:16, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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::::::Good luck in the next state, if that's where you're going. Perhaps there they will recognize that, for instance, "Taivo's concerns were addressed" simply ''must'' mean that a universal truth is uttered. ] (]) 16:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::Huh? ] that? Or was this a taunt? If you have difficulties assuming good faith or staying civil, perhaps take a break. For the rest, I do think your summary isn't accurate, for the reasons stated above, and will probably pursue further. Take care. ] (]) 12:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello Drmies, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!.
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== "Failed at AN" == == Happy Holidays ==


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So far as I can see, the only two admins with any objection are the two admins that abdicated their responsibility to supervise an editor that they unblocked over the strenuous objections of multiple parties. I really am at a loss here: what was the purpose of placing a 0RR restriction on an editor if you did not intend on reblocking when the restriction was violated? What did it ''mean'' if it could be violated without consequence?&mdash;](]) 23:49, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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*There is no formal ban, and you're not at a loss: I'm sure you were quite pleased you could drop a three-month blockhammer down after that edit warring report. Maybe you should learn to see farther than "block"; two sides can be at fault, and you never seem to look at the other side. Why should you? That guy from Chile is just an asshole who refuses to get an account and who, for some weird reason, gets pissed when they get reverted. I am not claiming that I was right here just because you're so wrong, nor that the IP didn't deserve a block of sorts--but the glee with which the vultures come swooping in, yeah, that's a distasteful spectacle. And what you're trying to enact on that LTA page isn't just distasteful, it's also wrong, and if you want that enshrined you're going to have to get it certified, in triplicate, from AN. ] (]) 01:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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:*What reason do you have to believe that the IP will ever reform his behaviour? That's the point that you seem to miss: the quality of his edits doesn't matter when judging his behaviour, and his behaviour is unacceptable. And I actually ''am'' at a loss: while I disagree with you on many things, I don't tend to see you as dishonest. What was the point of the 0RR restriction? Why are editors having to take him to the edit-warring noticeboard instead of you blocking immediately on the first reversion? If you weren't intending to do that, what did you ''mean'' by a 0RR restriction?&mdash;](]) 05:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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::*Kww, I don't think I swore a blood oath to start blocking. If I remember correctly, the IP quit pinging me, and Yngvadottir responded on a number of occasions. Yngvadottir, like me, also doesn't seem to think that blocking is the way to go. And again, this ANEW thing was preceded by a number of reverts on the other editor's part, reverts that were in themselves at least open for censure. So I chose not to block either one, yes. The point you ''continually'' miss is that it always takes two to tango: the editor who took him there was themselves guilty of edit warring, and that's not the first time something like that happens--and pardon ''me'' for not believing a block is always the answer. But I'm done with this, Kww. The IP doesn't seem to want to discuss this with me or change their behavior to suit your desire (which is, I believe, for them to just roll over the first time someone hits them with a revert, no matter what the edit was), and your side seems to be winning in this fist fight. You also seem to miss that Y and I attempted to be in the middle, to mediate, to improve the project for everyone, and all we get as thanks is a bunch of shit. So now I should have blocked. I'm "enabling". I let someone chase people off the project. (I don't see who left, but OK.) I gladly admit that this attempt (which I have been in on for years) was an abject failure, but at least I tried, and maybe there is life and hope for future years in there. You can be all righteously angry, but I can only be sad. ] (]) 16:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Drmies, Sorry you're getting so much grief over the IP. While I do have issues with the way they conduct themselves, and with their judgement on occassion, their editing of articles is normally (but not always) beneficial. I think you and Yngvadottir have done a worthy job in trying to curb some of the behaviourial excesses, and I am truly sorry that your efforts have not led to a satisfactory conclusion for all. Cheers – ] (]) 19:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*], thank you very much. A bit more help from their side could have made all the difference. I appreciate your note, I really do. ] (]) 21:03, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

== Good... goooood! ==

My plan is working puhrrrfectleeee. <rubs hands, laughs diabolically> . ] (]) 02:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*Broken clocks and all that... :) ] (]) 02:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
**LOL, but even "broken clocks" can be fixed. Broken ]'s on the other hand... :) --] ] ☮ღ☺ 20:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
:::But the dreaded greengrocers apostrophe is forever. ] (]) 04:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Green groce the rushe's O. ] (]) 08:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

== I'm back! ==

Thanks again for looking after my talk page and wondering what rock I was hiding under. I dropped 10 spots on ] during the time I was under the rock. While you might have passed me, I'm still leading you on ] by a wide margin. So there. =) -- ] (]) 04:56, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*Dammit Gogo, what do I need to do? Block more? Delete more? Write less? Hey, nice to see you. Really, I didn't mean to twist your arm, trying to make you come back--but you were one of the old guard, one of the ones with a cool name who got their admin tool by emailing Jimbo and sending him ten bucks via PayPal. (No?) And the ranks are thinning: the latest admin to leave, it appears, is Coffee--ANI has insightful reading material, if you have nothing better to do for a half an hour. Anywayz, thanks for dropping by: not everyone gets a visit from a dodo. That reminds me! Dodos came up before dinner today--must have been something silly one of the kids said, but they played dodo until they realized that would mean they're all dead, extinct. Well now. ] (]) 05:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*Oh man, you got me by a factor 10... But you gotta watch out for that {{U|Materialscientist}} dude, who's been on a tear ever since he got the tool. Ha, I'd be proud if I had any kind of ranking in the unblock and undeletion list. ] (]) 05:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I think I really just wanted to get off of ]. I paid 15 bucks for my admin bit. Still wondering if it was worth the investment. I read ANI and the Signpost article. I see that nothing much has changed during the months I was hiding under a rock. -- ] (]) 19:35, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*I'm like halfway down the list. Drmies has thrice as many actions as I do, almost.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:45, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
**That's still nothing compared to the high hitters. Hey Crisco, India Against Corruption is after me now--maybe that means that {{U|Sitush}} gets a breather. I'm pretty sure it's just one disgruntled person, from their language and tone. Hey, are you at a thousand Featured Pictures yet? ] (]) 02:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

== An article that you deleted ==

] has been recreated. You had deleted it before? Or atleast the talk page. ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small> 13:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*Yep, as spam. I see that {{U|RHaworth}} and I likely disagree on what the threshold is. ] (]) 20:39, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

== Expert admin advice sought on canvassing quandary ==

I ] ] for deletion. I'm wondering if I should notify the ten users who have put their pages in that category. While it seems courteous, I don't want to appear to be inappropriately canvassing, as I believe all of those users would be in favor of deletion (unless someone's just striving for irony). ]&nbsp;<span style="color:blue">•</span>&nbsp;] 21:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
*The moment irony ''may'' be involved there's no telling who might swing which way, so I wouldn't worry. Appearing to be courteous is always good, unless you're on ANI. ] (]) 00:05, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Thanks for the reply. Now that I've thought about it some more, I don't think there's any reason for notifications. Given my logical argument (in honor of ], I always try to be logical), I don't see how it could possibly fail to be deleted no matter what anyone says. There's only one user for whom the category is currently applicable, and even in the unlikely event some other people who use it wanted to keep the category around for the irony, I don't think it would be acceptable for other reasons, such as joke categories not being allowed. (And in this case, the mere existence of the category ruins the joke anyways.) ]&nbsp;<span style="color:blue">•</span>&nbsp;] 01:11, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Live long ], Mandarax. ] (]) 04:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Did you know ... that when ] portrayed ], he was unable to perform the ''']''', so his fingers were glued together? ]&nbsp;<span style="color:blue">•</span>&nbsp;] 19:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
:Of course, the ] is ], to which I've just added myself. If you belong to it, then categorizing yourself as such means you are no longer eligible for it, but as soon as you remove it, you belong to it again and so need to re-add it. I knew Misplaced Pages was good for something. ]&nbsp;]] 20:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

== No article ==
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== Thanks ==

re: ] & blocked user ]

Note: Three more IPs that geolocate to the Netherlands have appeared:
*Talk: ] ] (+157) (A brilliant solution, just brilliant)
*Talk: ] ] (-218) (A brilliant solution, just brilliant)
::Note: claimed to "have been blocked without a valid reason"
*Talk: ] ] (+343) (Abraham and Sarah or Joseph and Mary.)
*Talk: ] ] (+93) (Moving forward)
::Note: Within 14 minutes after that posting, a new account was created:
*Commons account: ] ()
::], each described as "Dirty old man with much younger woman. By Lucas Cranach the Elder", and source as "Own digitalization of ancient painting".
*en.wiki account: ] ()
*Talk: ] ] (+218) (File:Lucas Cranach Elder 1.jpg)

I doubt that those images were digitized by Commonismus since they seem to be crude modifications of a work which is actually by Albrecht Altdorfer, not Lucas Cranach:
*http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Albrecht_Altdorfer_-_Loth_and_his_Daughters_-_WGA00206.jpg
*http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Albrecht_Altdorfer_046.jpg
*http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Lot_and_his_Daughters,_Altdorfer.jpg
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'''Hello Drmies, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this ]. Spread the ] by wishing another user a ] and a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. <br />Happy editing,'''<br />
*Disclosure. I made a previous edit to the above talk page ] using a different IP number ], and 1 edit to the article using present IP number after semi-protection expired. I don't know if any of the above is block evasion, but those newly fabricated pictures need to be deleted. Thanks for your time. —] (]) 05:52, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
*Where do I come in? Isn't {{U|SlimVirgin}} a better person to ask? She's semi'd the article before... ] (]) 16:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC) ] (]) 22:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::The above was re: your blocked user ] and possible block evasion, as well as false image making. –] (]) 11:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


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== Vietcong nuturlizer ==
|} ] (]) 22:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
]s" to go with his with his gator-eggs? ]]
You blocked {{user|Vietcong nuturlizer}}. I attempted to remove the personal attacks (don't worry, being called isn't the worst thing!), but was reverted. You might want to go ahead and revoke their talk page access. DYK I'm a ? I'll have to share that breaking news with my husband. ] ] 12:23, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
*What an enormous loser. Also, ] (]) 16:08, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
*That interview with ] is still totally cringeworthy: "we have no one like that on the team". One of my friends was on the field for that game, and apparently it was worse than the clip even suggests. ] (]) 16:11, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


== May Sinterklaas be good to you ... ==
:Thanks for taking care of our dear friend, and yes, that clip is ''awkward''. (I laughed and cringed) ] ] 16:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


Please leave your wooden shoes out for him to fill with presents.
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Have a good one, Doc, and thanks for filling our wiki-lives with cheer.
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::Maybe Dr Mice likes "]" with his gator-eggs? <small>Don't worry Doc, you're probably just a ].</small> ] (]) 20:31, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
::What is a ] ] (]) 20:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
:::- That's the feeling you get when you unwittingly add something to an article that six other editors have atready taken out. ] (]) 20:44, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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::Why? ] (]) 22:47, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
:A ?! Goodness me, that's the last thing we need. ] (]) 22:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


Love, ] (]) 01:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
== An Elegant Company Playing Music ==
*Oh ], that is very nice of you--thank you very much. I assume you set your shoe too? Don't forget to put a carrot in there, right? That reminds me: I'll be making oliebollen for New Year's. All the best to you and yours, and thanks for sticking around and helping out on our beautiful project. ] (]) 23:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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**Ah, ] are a new one on me! Here in Hawaii, we have a doughnutty thing called ]s, which are eaten all year round, just like ]! Have a great New Year! ] (]) 00:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)


== About your block of Ayomikun445 ==


&nbsp; &ndash;] (]) 15:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*I'm on it. ] (]) 15:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


== DCAU page ==
]7+6 Found this on ] talk page. Had to share it. ] 21:09, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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::Because Elizabeth Green the Stork Woman ] has forbidden it. ] (]) 22:45, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
:Wow, is that really ] singing?? ] (]) 22:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


Hi! I'm currently engaged in an edit war with a user who believes that two films released in 2017 and 2019 are canon to an animated universe of TV shows from 1992-2006. I've provided multiple clear as day sources from the people who worked on these that show this isn't the case.
==DYK for Ploughing in the Nivernais==
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You can read it here.
== thanks ==
https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:DC_Animated_Universe#Article_Cleanup ] (]) 23:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*I tried to read that: it's clear as mud. But yes you are in the middle of an edit war, and you really need to stop. If you want that talk page discussion, and your editing career, to go anywhere, you might could try making smaller edits and explaining them on the talk page--briefly, with sources. ] (]) 23:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*Blanking your talk page is not a good idea. ] (]) 23:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*], is this your only account? ] (]) 23:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*:Yes. I had a previous account a while back that I lost my password too.
*:The person who I'm having an edit war with literally went and removed my sources, while his sources are non-existent or incredibly flimsy. ] (]) 20:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== With respect to Bai Jingting ==
glad you pinged LoS ... I wanted her view, but wasn't sure I should ask. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 00:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{U|Ched}}, what made you hesitate? You can always ask me! <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy">]<span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span>]</span> 17:43, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
:: Mainly because I never see you in anything even the least bit controversial. You always just go about improving the project. :) (and thank you for your comments!) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 17:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Hah, that's because since I don't care for the fighting that occurs, I just tend to avoid those areas. :) That said, I'll reiterate: if you want my opinion on something, always ask! If I'd rather not get into it, I'll say so. <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy">]<span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span>]</span> 17:52, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
::::You know, I just saw a job posting in Knoxville, I am going to try and get it so we can all hang out more (don't worry Ched, I will stop in on my way down there). :) --]<sup>(]) </sup> 18:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::Knoxville is a great town, unless you have asthma. ] (]) 18:31, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::Fortunately I don't. The best pizza I ever had was when I was traveling through Knoxville, we spent the night on our way to Florida. Pity I cant remember the name of the place, although that was probably 25 years ago.--]<sup>(]) </sup> 20:47, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::I haven't visited Knoxville in a long time, but go for it! <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy">]<span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span>]</span> 20:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I seen few deletion, need clarity to improve.
== Regarding Deletion of Page Angry_Engineers_Entertainment ==
1. For Philanthropic activity the source 8th line mentions artist name, need to understand why the source is doubtful.
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2. If "features" is wrong vocabulary could it be replaced with other word? As new writer I observed many articles already accepted those details from years. Need to understand how to represent here with proper writing. ] (]) 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Re: Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Angry_Engineers_Entertainment, please see the page talk page for a reason why it should not have been deleted; I was also given absolutely no time or indication before the page was deleted to actually contest it. Citation: http://store.steampowered.com/app/243300/ <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*Not every time someone is mentioned in some competition they're "featured". If someone is featured it means they get a special placement, and there is no evidence at all that this is what is happening here. Yes, it's a buzzword now used for every guest performance and appearance, and we need to fight back, like linguistic warriors. I don't really know what you mean with "source 8th line", but if you're talking about , it's pretty obvious to me that that gossipy glossy website is NOT an acceptable, neutral, independent source for BLPs. Thanks, ] (]) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*Sorry, that's not enough of a reason. Existence does not equal notability. Thank you, ] (]) 00:55, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
**Thanks for the reply. For Philanthropic activity link <ref>{{Cite web |title=持续更新！汪峰章子怡林志玲黄晓明等为河南暴雨捐款 |url=https://ent.ifeng.com/c/883OdhBmV5C |access-date=2024-12-17 |website=ent.ifeng.com |language=zh}}</ref> was used. 8th line suggest artist donation towards natural disaster. It was removed stating doubtful. If we mention actual ranks of few listings, instead of "feature" I hope it's fine provided link attached is not from gossip site and provides enough evidence. ] (]) 23:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
** Notability? Various articles around the internet reference the game. Rock Paper Shotgun: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/07/08/space-station-titanic-centration/ / PC Gamer: http://www.pcgamer.com/the-early-access-report-contraption-maker-broforce-and-centration/ / The first game on Steam using Unreal Engine 4 that's available for Linux: http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6857821-But-is-it-on-Linux/ Gaming On Linux: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/centration-fps-space-simulation-released-on-steam-for-linux.3437 - I can also come up with -VARIOUS- other pages on Misplaced Pages with smaller companies with even less significant games on Steam; and will gladly provide a list of necessary - delete them all or put the page back up.
***I don't do ultimatums, but I'll do advice. Rewrite your article and submit it through ], and when you do, put ''all'' your references in. Whether any of them count as reliable sources, and whether any of those mentions constitute significant discussion, I'll leave that for you to decide. ] (]) 01:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC) ***What 8th line? I see five lines, and then some weird image that took me 26 clicks on "Page Down" to get through--and then there's comments. Anyway, I see his name is mentioned, along with dozens of others, on a website that at best looks like a gossipy site for fans of entertainers. Whatever that site is, it's not publishing journalism; please see ]. How much did he even give? Or did the record company give a few bucks in his name, to add to his resume? Who knows? ] (]) 02:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
***Oh you mean the seventh line of that picture with a list of donors--who knows what that picture is, and what its authority is. Again, that's not how we operate here. It's too easy to manipulate pictures, and there's no source or context--"according to incomplete statistics" actually expresses part of the problem well. ] (]) 02:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
****I was working on adding the references and formatting the page correctly when it was deleted. Like I said, I was given essentially no time to contest or even update the page before it was deleted; I thought you (or page patrollers) were supposed to observe a minimum time before you go all elitist egotistical delete crazy? You know nothing of this subject by your comments, so why are you even in a position to judge the notability of a game developer? ]
*****Yeah, good question. Now, I gave you some valuable advice; go spent your time writing up a draft. And next time, consider writing something ''decent'' before submitting it. Thank you, ] (]) 01:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
******Nommyface, if I may offer my advice (as an angry engineer). The article was tagged quite soon after creation (probably too soon I will grant you, and I will discuss that with the editor in question), however the page was deleted about a half hour after it was created, which is generally long enough to sit before being deleted. As Drmies says, you should recreate the article through Articles for Creation, and have it reviewed prior to submission. You should also stop calling people names, it isn't very nice. I would be happy to restore and move the article for you (if it hasn't been done already). --]<sup>(]) </sup> 02:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*******Thank you Kelapstick, I'm sorry for reverting to childish behaviour; kind of up to my eyeballs in a lot of different things at the moment. I'd like to have it restored - however I'll work on a new article that's done up properly before. Can I confirm the process for doing this so I don't get yelled at again?
*******K, thank you for being so much nicer than me. Nommyface, my apologies. ] (]) 02:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
********Not at all, I owe you a jar of our ]. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 02:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*********You don't have to apologize for anything, I'm sorry for being rather rude about the whole situation; it's kind of more than a little insulting to have everything I've been working towards for the past two years called 'not notable'.
{{outdent}} I have taken the liberty of restoring and moving the page to ], the article is not suitable as it sits now, it needs much more in the way of referencing in ], you should also have a read of ], which explains how to reference the article. Cheers, --]<sup>(]) </sup> 02:56, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
===Sidebar===
*On a related note, know what an engineer uses for birth control? His personality. I'm here all week, try the veal. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 01:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
**I hope you get that extra tool so you can oversight your jokes. Nice to see you again, K. Been too long. ] (]) 01:15, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
***Oh come on, that's comedy gold. You can use that with the engineering students if you like. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 01:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
****Speaking of comedy, DYK that drafts (even this one, ]) do not seem to be eligible for A7? ] (]) 03:29, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*****I believe that is what IAR was invented for. Or you could wait six months for G13. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 03:35, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
******I don't find it surprising that someone who ] as a deletion criterion is advocating IAR. ]&nbsp;<span style="color:blue">•</span>&nbsp;] 09:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*******Really, because I thought I was on a roll here. Regardless, the outcome is the same. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 11:42, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


{{reflist-talk}}
== Your thoughts on resolving the impasse at Landmark Worldwide ==


== You are being discussed here ==
I responded to your comments at the Landmark talk page - I probably should have pinged you. I was wondering what you saw as a good avenue for resolving the long-running dispute there. Mediation was recently offered, but many editors ignored or refused the offer. Your thoughts would be appreciated! ] (]) 14:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*I have no experience with mediation. I always hope for common sense--like with this NRM thing. Let's be reasonable: it's found in reliable sources, plenty of them, it's valid article content, it has a place--a minor place, but still--in the lead. And then we can move on. ] (]) 19:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
**Just FYI, there's an AE thread open concerning Landmark. You and your zebras may or may not want to take a spin over there. ] &#124; ] 19:59, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


] ] ] 16:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Opinion needed ==
*Very exciting, Doug--thanks! ] (]) 19:54, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
** {{tpw}} ] ]!!! ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 20:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*** A tremendous amount of truly reprehensible stuff does happen on this talk page. However, in my opinion, none thus far had been quite so egregious as using the word "revenant". That said, I myself understood the word immediately by way of it being the true and accurate translation from the Danish of the title of Ibsen's '']''. -- ] (]) 05:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
****Hey I just learned a new word. ] (]) 16:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
**** Well, {{yo|Softlavender}}, a joke explained is not much of a joke. But what I meant by using the word was precisely a reference to the Danish sense in that the ghost of the quite dead argument had been revived by a (now blocked) user who started the (now closed) discussion. Let us hope for the new year that the argument inappropriately raised from the dead remains in the grave to which it was returned and that no further sticks are raised. Heaven forfend that I should post reprehensible stuff on this hallowed site. ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 14:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
*****Let the dead bury their dead. ] (]) 15:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== ]/] and others ==
Hello, you left me a note a couple weeks ago about revering vandalize... Anyway, you're the only admin I've run into. I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Last week, ] started working on replacing our notability guidelines. However, a couple editors refused to listen to my points and the dialogue devolved. Could you look at the conversation and give me feedback. Was I too harsh? It's probably not your specialty, but I'd like to know. Maybe I'm not fit for Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 20:03, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*Yeah, well, that's a long discussion. A minimum number of words or sources requirement isn't going to work; it doesn't work that way anywhere on Misplaced Pages (for better or for worse). I agree that "Creating solid/well cited pages are better than nonreferenced stubs" but that can easily clash with any notability guideline. Now, if someone won something in Andorra, does that make them notable? First of all, liquor and cigarettes weren't taxed last time in Andorra, so I'd go there by car and load up. Second, well, yeah--since the sports projects have decided to fetishize nationhood, they have to come up with a rule that applies fairly to different countries (and then they can plant their ugly and inappropriate flags all over the place).<p>Now, I read all the way to the "let's start voting" bit--what's the problem? Is it about whether or not someone finished a Grand Tour? If that's the only reason to reject a proposal with many more elements, well, it's your right I suppose. And excluding national champions if they're from a small country begs the question of what "small" is--it's undefinable. If Basqueland ever comes to exist, you're talking about a minute country with a lot of great climbers. Plus, the systemic bias point that {{U|Lugnuts}} brought up is very valid: no one should want to build notability guidelines on "what size is your country". (Well, my country may be small, but my ''pilum'' is stronger than your ''sternum'', that Roman guy from '']'' might say.) Telling them you're talking to children is probably never a good idea (though I believe Lugnuts drew first blood on that page).<p>See, you made your point, but no one accepts it. We can't force someone into agreement and, as an administrator and an old-time editor who has, for instance, closed lots of RfCs, at this point your opponents really have the stronger arguments (sorry--I'm an equal opportunity offender...); calling them children will make it only less likely that they'll see things your way. You win some, you lose some: it seems you're losing this one. Sorry, but I know how it feels--it's not a great feeling. Thanks, and good luck, ] (]) 21:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
*Northern Virginia? Must be a nice bike-riding place... ] (]) 21:47, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


Thought they had given up and taken a new hobby, but nope... Here is this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:67D4:8700:461:2CED:6508:F5E3), for instance continuing with the transfer speculation at ] (and reinserting their ref that "supported" ] winning the title last season by mentioning a ] match!!), duly reverted! Ah, with a completely polite and encyclopedical edit summary, so let's see what their reply will be (because they WILL reinstate their version again!)...
::I was tying to exclude all national championships; the U.S. to Andorra (so we exclude bias). Only the Worlds and/or Olympics are level placing fields... But it doesn't matter anymore. Thanks for your opinion; it was very detailed. You seem like a very reasonable admin...


::NVA is great for biking and running, but the snow is annoying... Need to shovel my driveway... Have a great day. ] (]) 22:16, 5 March 2015 (UTC) Happy 2025, take care ] (]) 16:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, if you wanted to exclude them all (did I misread?), that's a kind of fairness--but if it's on the ground that they're not equal, then the charge of systemic bias is applicable again. Anyway, I think there's no way you're going to get national championships excluded: it's the way of the worlds, in sports as well as in singing contests... ] (]) 04:54, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Yes you did. I think you and Lugnuts had the same thought... I'm outnumbered 2 to 1, so it doesn't matter. Thanks, ] (]) 06:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


Edit warring started already, please intervene (you or somebody) ASAP! --] (]) 17:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:That pesky Lugnuts. BWMW - Find me any lengthy discussion about guidance/policy change where there is a 100% consensus from everyone, and I'll be an Andorran's uncle. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 08:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
:*You missed that RfC on whether "Jimbo is an enlightened leader" should be in his article? ] (]) 17:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC) *], ], can you please have a look, given your experience with ]? Thanks, ] (]) 19:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*], I found another one (User:Lazaric12), and removed some of that awful content. Take care old friend! ] (]) 16:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== Your equal-opportunity offence == == A barnstar for you! ==


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Thank you for your comments and taking the time to look back into the Landmark article and AE threads. I'll gladly accept anything you throw in my direction, as long as it improves the project. Enjoy your afternoon, ] (]) 21:23, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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*Haha thanks, {{U|Mz7}}--and I just hit you with a +2! ] (]) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{U|Bbb23}}, happy new year, and how is it that you are thanked more than me??? I thought I was the good cop! ] (]) 15:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
**It's a conspiratorial ploy by the perps to cozy up to the bad cop.--] (]) 16:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
***Shoot I just thanked ] for an edit, and she was already ahead of me. ] (]) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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:::* As explained on my talk, I hope I do more real thank-you than lazy click-thanks ;) - Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). --] (]) 18:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 09:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


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== Mail ==
Please see the following exchange on my user talk page . I also believe it might be valuable to review the subsequent edits of this newly created account to other articles since then. In a number of ways, this seems to me to be a rather obvious sockpuppet, in a number of ways, of Tgeairn, but I think, under the circumstances, it would be best if someone other than me reviewed the matter and filed either the SPI or the AE request. ] (]) 02:23, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
:Seriously {{U|John Carter|John}}? Although I must admit to laughing wholeheartedly at the mess you find yourself in, to try to blame me is complete BS. Drmies, I'll buy one for you too - call it payment for the mess. --] (]) 02:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Dear John, I'm going to give you totally unasked for advice: fewer words, please, everywhere (esp. on the article talk page). Yes, I saw that editor--there's all kinds of possibilities. Maybe it's Tgeairn, or Astynax, playing the bad hand, or maybe it's the other side (your side?) playing the good hand; or maybe it's just a troll. Seriously, I saw their first edits already, including that rather odd congratulatory remark, and I don't really know what to make of it--but I'm not worrying about it much. {{U|HJ Mitchell}}, do you have a CU on call and do you think it's worth a fishing expedition? Because for now, Harry, you're going to have to play the part of the uninvolved admin--I think I gave that up, though I will claim to be an uninvolved editor here. Y'all, settle down. John, Tgeairn, we're going to have to get along. I think I like you both well enough, but all of this is too much. You two, with the very capable assistance of a lot of other editors of course, have filled up 30 archived pages of talk page discussion, and it's beyond...well, it's two steps beyond. John, I think you know Tgeairn isn't the worst; Tgeairn, yeah, I'll take it, but no porter please. ] (]) 04:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
:*After reading both of y'all's talk page histories and comments, phew, I hope you're enjoying this, cause it's not fun for the rest of us. John Carter, that "warning" was...not a warning. Tgeairn, drop .50 in the sarcasm jar on the way out. If you all keep this up, someone might think that both of you are too caught up on the topic to the point where a. you can't be trusted to edit articles in this topic area objectively and b. y'all's animosity is becoming disruptive--like, I missed a couple of Nightly jokes because I was reading all this stuff. Please. ] (]) 04:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


*Dr. M, I swear y'all been in Alabama too long. Next thing we know y'all be feedin' us them grits.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 06:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC) {{You've got mail}} ] (]) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
**I swear it's time to get out of here. Our State Supreme Court just turned back the clock, as you may have heard via carrier pigeon. was on the radio this morning (did you hear it, {{U|Tide rolls}}?); heartbreaking. I can't believe how callous politicians can be--nor can I believe how we (well, "we"--I have taxation but no representation) keep voting the bastards in office that profit from what is essentially wage slavery. In other news, apparently I'm a ] now. ] (]) 15:54, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
***Cripers. A remnant of the old federal system... too much bureaucracy in place to actually standardize the worker's comp. Also, "Some states even put a value on the loss of a testicle."... So a big toe is worth money, but a testicle is not in some states? I wonder if their “schedule of benefits” was anatomically correct.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
***I have not seen that story, Professor. The best I can come up with is...wow. ]] 16:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
****It made me realize that I'm lucky to be in a job with low risk. Oh, from another recent NPR series: the job with the highest rate of work-related injury...drum roll...nursing! ] (]) 17:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


== Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey) ==
==Incomplete DYK nomination==


The article for ] definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. ] (]) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
] Hello! Your submission of ''']''' at the ] is not complete; see ]. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{tl|db-g7}}, or ask a ]. Thank you. <!--Template:DYK nomination needs transcluded--> ] (]) 06:15, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
*Happy New Year, {{U|Alansohn}}. I hope there are, and I hope they're grrrreat. That article was a bit excessive. ] (]) 00:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Done}}. Nominated a few templates away under the same date is ]. ]&nbsp;<span style="color:blue">•</span>&nbsp;] 10:53, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Oh, shoot, I forgot to list it again??? Thanks Mandarax... ] (]) 15:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


==Drmies hard at work== == Sockpuppet ==
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*Bleh. I'm grading midterms. Fool that I am, with three literature classes and nothing but essay-style exams. ] (]) 15:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
**I wouldn't do anything else with a literature class either (especially multiple choice... I hate those, for the humanities). BTW, I'm back doing some editing. '']''... French lit???&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:31, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
***Budweiser lit...or is that light.... <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><font color="gold">&#9775;</font>] 01:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
****Budweiser... one of the reasons I've never extended an invitation for Drmies to come and visit me here. ]&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 03:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
==Unsubstantiated claims of harassment==
:Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally ''the'' minute I sent this lol. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello,
::Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! ] (]) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. ] (]) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...{{pb}}Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. ] (]) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== 120.21.0.0/16 ==
On my talk page you left a nasty message saying that I was leaving people "sh***y remark". A couple of things: I don't appreciate you cursing at me on my talk page. I'm sure you can think up a much better and professional way of leaving feedback than cursing at other editors. Second, can you please outline to me what part of my comment constitutes "harassment". Thank you for your time I am sure you are a very busy editor! ] (]) 16:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
*Eh, the proper term you're looking for is probably "profanity". I'm certainly not cursing ''at'' you--I pointed out a quality of a shitty remark you made, not a quality of the person who made it, though your response here speaks volumes. You are perfectly content to harass, intimidate, and humiliate another editor, but you can't be held responsible for a shitty comment?<p>Second, if you don't like the word "shitty", OK. I think was very appropriate for your disgusting little snarky comment, but we could ask other editors for what they think is a better word to describe this comment of yours, made on ANI in response to an editor who claimed they had received harassing communications off-wiki. Dear talk page stalkers, the comment is this:<blockquote></blockquote> Let the people speak. ] (]) 16:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
*'''Support''' the use of shitty where appropriate, which it is in this case. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 16:54, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at ], and there are no deleted contributions. ] (]) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
* is a shitty comment if I ever saw one. I find it far more offensive than naughty words. ] 17:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
*Hey {{U|Nyttend}}--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. ] (]) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
**Thanks for the response. This response makes sense, and the email was great; thank you. ] (]) 19:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Advice needed ==
I had no idea that we were going to evaluate comments based in the court of who follows your personal webpage. Is that standard operating procedure on wikipedia? I think it's pretty obvious what the outcome is going to be. Very well. I'm sorry that the comments were "shitty", according to you and people with a vested interest in your talk page. However, I'm a bit confused. How exactly am I harassing, intimidating, and humiliating another editor? On my page you called the comment "borderline harassment", but now I see that the same comment (which you have yet to explain how it is borderline harassment when responding to baiting comments) has suddenly grown into full-blown harassment, intimidation, and humiliation? It seems those accusations quickly escalated in severity when I try to talk them out with you. ] (]) 17:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per ], airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:I think if you did a bit of research instead of assuming we are all buddies protecting each other you would realize that Drmies and I do in fact disagree from time to time and that I have no compulsion to support him. I called your comment shitty because it was a shitty thing to say. If you don't see how mocking someone who has been harassed is a form of harassment then you will just have to believe other people when they tell you that it is. ] 17:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
*Hmm I disagree: they were warned by multiple editors, and the content is unsourced. I was going to ask about talk page consensus, but there is project-wide consensus... ] (]) 22:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Football sock ==
::Whether you are all "buddies" or not, you clearly have a vested interest in watching his talk page and posting within 10 minutes of a question being raised. I can hardly be blamed for finding it suspicious, considering you yourself said the following on your talk page: "if you show up anonymously and jump right into a heated debate and favor one side strongly then you can expect people to give you less credence." While you may not be anonymous in this case, the sentiment still rings true.


Not college football, but still... See ]. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--] (]) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::As far as 'harassment' goes, you can argue that it was an unkind comment given to an unkind comment in turn, or inappropriate, but claiming that the comment is a "form of harassment" is really stretching the word harassment to its most liberal interpretation. Most definitions, ], claim it must be repetitive in nature. Calling strong disagreement and dismissal of someone's claims of off-site harassment after they tauntingly tell you they didn't read your post does not meet any of that criteria. Ironically enough I find it more harassing that Drmies repeatedly uses profanity towards me when requested not to, threatens to block my account, and involves other unrelated persons in disagreements over Misplaced Pages policy but I doubt anyone with a vested interest in this talk page will see that point of view. ] (]) 17:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
:The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--] (]) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::Chillum, for some reason I couldn't come up with the word, but that's what it is: "mocking": thank you. James Evans, you sought me out here on my talk page, which lots of people watch--some agree with me, some don't. You did that ''after'' you mocked someone on the most public of all Misplaced Pages pages (well, after the front page I suppose). You're then ''pretending'' you don't know what was so insulting in your comment.<p>Sorry, but that sort of belittling, we should have outgrown it, and I am perfectly happy to let this all go, and to remove this entire thread from my talk page, if I can get some recognition of some kind that I don't have to look at more such comments from you. I understand that the context was a website where I guess anything goes, but this is not that kind of website, and while there is little we can do about off-site harassment, we certainly take it seriously, as seriously as we can. Chillum and I may have different understandings on what counts as a blockable insult, and in which context (Lord knows we have plenty of differences of opinion), but we both wish this place to be safe in the sense that someone does ''not'' get mocked in public. BTW, Kelapstick, who agreed on my qualification of your comment, is also an administrator. Three different admins in one thread is kind of like a classroom full of monkeys with typewriters, but in this case they all typed the same word.<p>After your comment: you are more than welcome to bring ''my'' supposed harassment of ''you'' up at ANI, where someone without any vested interest in me is quite likely to point you to ]. Thank you, ] (]) 17:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
::What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... ] (]) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--] (]) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? ] (]) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. ] (]) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


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::Re-read my comments. I never argued that it wasn't insulting or mocking. I'm also not sure why you're quoting "pretending" as I've been forward about exactly what the comment was. I asked you to clarify how it was borderline harassment, which as linked previously has a specific definition on Misplaced Pages. You then decided to escalate the accusation to declaring I was full-blown harassing, intimidating, and humiliating another user. If you want to threaten someone with blocking and cite policy then it shouldn't come at a surprise when an editor defends themself and asks for you to show them how they violated the policy you're citing. There is a clear line between snarky comments, as you've certainly gotten in on this page and my personal talk page, and harassment which I do not believe I crossed and you've failed to demonstrate, and I think you've come to realize as well. In regards to removing this discussion you're more than welcome to move on with your life, as I certainly will be. I'm not sure what kind of 'guarantee' you want from me but I feel it's entirely unnecessary. If you want to be hot on my wikipedia trail and trawl through my comments looking for something to block me for or the opening to leave more profanity on my page then be my guest, you're free to spend your leisure time however you like. ] (]) 18:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
{{ygm}} I stopped e-mailing you long ago, since it always bounced, but perhaps it may be worth trying again? ] &#124; ] 09:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
*YES. I've been so lonely! ] (]) 15:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


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:I think you mean ], and it's not transcluded yet, so it's not ''that'' big a deal (in fact, you probably shouldn't have voted yet, but that is neither here nor there). --]<sup>(]) </sup> 18:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
::Oh. Yes, that's what I meant. I just looked at the guy's contribs, sorry. ]<sup>]]</sup> 18:21, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
*Well, it needs a crat; I hear {{U|Writ Keeper}} is back in town again. Superkid was one of my top candidates though. ] (]) 18:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
**I see that Yunshui took care of it already, so that's cool. I'm not as who should say back in town; I just get curious from time to time about what's going on from all the emails I still get. Incidentally, I'm not a 'crat anymore; once local renames stopped being a thing, there wasn't much point for me to be one (aside from closing RfAs, which I hated doing, because who am I to judge?). So I turned it in; seems a bit silly to hang on to a thing I have no plans to use. ]&nbsp;]] 22:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
***That's all kind of sluttish, WK--bailing out on us after you had your fill. Don't call us in the morning. Hey, I didn't know you stepped down but you're right. Well, I hope you will continue to visit; I always enjoyed your company. ] (]) 00:49, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


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*Disagreement is fine; I disagree with that original motivation and the argument, but we're all adults and I'm sure we can figure all this out. Thanks for your note Dave, ] (]) 21:27, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


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*Of course that was in jest. No one pays me for what I do. It's their loss, I know. I don't have an opinion on that proposal--I haven't looked at it, but Chillum is on the case, and he's known for knowing what he's talking about. Thank you. ] (]) 21:26, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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== FORDROCKEFELLER1974 ==
Based on "''''", I can't see any case where this site should be used as a source. Got a strong opinion?&mdash;](]) 20:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
*Allkpop is awful and should never be used, and it isn't even the worst of them. It reprints gossip and material written by SM and the other entertainment companies. The expert is {{U|Shinyang-i}}, who has taken the bull by the horns on one of the project pages (Shinyang-i, can you point Kww in the right direction?). If I'm not mistaken Shinyang got a consensus from somewhere that Allkpop is discredited as a reliable sources, which has huge consequences for the K-pop articles, their sourcing, and the included material--as you may know, or as you can guess, the fan's argument for the inclusion of every single factoid is "well it's sourced". Also in the know is {{U|Materialscientist}}, who has dealt administratively with the darker side of K-pop editing. This is my word of warning to you, unfortunately. ] (]) 20:55, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
::"Isn't even the worst of them"? Seems like a job for the site blacklist. I wandered across some of these while working on the BLP cesspool consisting of every article named "List of awards and nominations received by ...".&mdash;](]) 21:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Are they awards like ''Best album by a band with a hyphen in their name"? Because, given my limited experience with K-pop, that sounds accurate. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 21:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Or maybe, ''Best trainee singer.'' --]<sup>(]) </sup> 21:41, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::]. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 22:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::I'm worn out from a full day but tomorrow I'll be back with something intelligent(?) to say. There are issues with all the awards pages, and actually allkpop has been on the "non-reliable source" list of WP:KOREA since before I came along. So uh yeah, more from me tomorrow. Will love to chat about this whole situation. :) ] (]) 05:58, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


See {{UTRS|98810}}. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at ]. What are your thoughts? Note that I have ''not'' looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --] (]) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Okay, I'm back, {{ping|Drmies|Kww|kelapstick}}. This is gonna be long, and maybe this belongs at WP:KOREA, but the last time I tried to bring this up I got called a lot of names and accused of some bad things. If you guys wanna join in conversations there, as people who aren't kpop-brainwashed, that would be excellent. For now, in order to avoid this getting lost in Drmies' very active talk page, may I invite you over to ]? This is a conversation I really want to have. ] (]) 03:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
*Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. ] (]) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


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Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, ] (]) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Hey Drmies. I've been informed that ] for the article on ] is going to close shop unless I can find someone to spot check the sources to ensure that they accurately support the claims in the article. There is a notice at the top of the FAC page, but I figured I'd ask around to see if you were interested. If you're busy, it's no big deal. Thanks, ]] 21:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
*{{U|Johnbod}}, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by ]--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and ] isn't very insightful. I see ] is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. ], if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, ] (]) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*Well, I don't mind, but it's seriously nap time right now, and there's all kinds of other stuff this afternoon that will keep me occupied. If there's no rush, I can have a look maybe tomorrow, maybe Monday... ] (]) 21:18, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
**Thanks. I suspect the coordinators won't have a problem with that, I'll just let them know. Enjoy your serious nap. :) ]] 21:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


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Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at ] and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. ] (]) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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:The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. ] (]) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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::Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. ] (]) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. ] (]) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. ] (]) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... ] (]) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. ] (]) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. ] ] 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe, ], but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. ] (]) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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:::Blimey! And the complainant didn't know it was "unser giftzweg" who was the "doktor"? I read the Fanta story in ''"For God, Country, and Coca-Cola"'' years ago; how they made some kind of ersatz drink and held a staff competition to name it. ] (]) 14:04, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Brrr, such an ugly color for a soft drink (the US version). I had no idea there were this many colors and flavors; you two should do the : 52 is made for you. ] (]) 14:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::I'm not getting the "52" reference. ] (]) 18:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::Well I clicked on the link and it said "Number 17: Schitter als een diamant". No thanks, I've still got scars from the last time I shat one. ] (]) 19:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::"Schitter" = "sparkle". No. 52 is where you and your friend get into a XXL shirt together and take a selfie. ] (]) 19:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::I keep telling myself to unwatch this page, but it exerts a strange, inexplicable fascination. ] (]) 19:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::I've got the shirt, now I've just got to find ]. ] (]) 19:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::<small>Wait... ''shirt'' or ''shit''? ] (]) 05:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)</small>
::::::::::Try ]. ] (]) 21:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC) <small>Herr Doktor, can you please close the ridulous discussion immeidately next down in the log?</small>
:::::::::::Sorry, don't know how to close a CfD. :) ] (]) 01:50, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see "Fanta Nazi" now gets 295,000 Google hits. So expect a new wiki article any time soon. Meanwhile.... over in quieter ]... ] is still waiting for his ]..... ] (]) 21:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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There ought to be a DYK in this, no? Why don't you make the rounds of the lowlife sources you're so accustomed to, let us know what you find, and we'll have a right jolly article? As I recall the campaign made the mistake of invoking "The Good Old Days" or something. ]. ] (]) 01:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


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I'd like to insert the explanation " Specifically “While the original article reported the primary efficacy and safety results of the SP 512 Transdermal Rotigotine Phase 3 Pivotal Clinical Trial in Early Parkinson's Disease, the second article focused on the secondary outcome variables and plasma pharmacokinetics of rotigotine administered once daily via a novel transdermal delivery system.” between the first and second sentences.
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== 'Vissersvrijage' ==

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What is 'Vissersvrijage'. ] (]) 22:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
*Haha, that's lovely. "Vissers" is here both a plural and a genitive--"pertaining to fisherpeople". "Vrijage" is, well, fancy: "vrij" is derived from "vrijen", meaning "make love to" in the old-fashioned way, including the courtship part, and "-age" is the fancy French-derived suffix that makes an abstract noun from a verb. So, "Courtship between fisherpeople" or something like that, haha. ] (]) 22:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Oh, than it's a playing around with words. No wonder it didn't translated. Shall I put "Courtship between fisherpeople"as a title for the painting? It's at ] . ] (]) 22:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I'm not surprised. No, "fisherpeople" is acceptable only in my household. But "fishermen" strikes me as wrong. "Fishy love"? {{U|Martijn Hoekstra}} surely knows what to do. ] (]) 23:04, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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::I can't put ''Fishy Love'' as a subtitle... be serious. Do something yourself, article ]. ] (]) 23:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Commandeer je hondje en blaf zelf! ] (]) 23:17, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::The problem is the "vissers"; I don't know what to do with that. ] (]) 23:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::I am not commanding you... merely was asking to take a look at the article. ] (]) 23:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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::Exacly - ''From that time on, Neuhuys completely devoted himself to drawing and painting'' needed to be fixed . ] (]) 23:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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:::Makes me think of the Dutch version of the Italian song O ] - Het Visermeisje. Too bad there's no article on the nl site. ]] 01:11, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Sippy likes the dog taxi best. I prefer the cool dog. ] (]) 01:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:Oje né, fa' priesto viene!
:nun mme fá spantecá...
:ca pure 'a rezza vène
:ch'a mare stó' a mená...] (]) 01:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::I've never heard that song. There's audio on the interwebz but one of my kids made me turn it off since it interferes with their AFV watching. "Ik hou van Holland" is a classic, of course. ] (]) 01:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:You could consider dropping the plural. If you go for something like 'The Fishermans Fancy' or 'A Fishermans Flirt', you also retain the alliteration. To me, courtship feels overly formal for vrijage, which sounds more playful to me, but that could just be me. Off course, turning to singular would reinforce the sexist notion that the fancying and/or flirting is done primarily by the male in this picture, but then again, I doubt the painter intended for her to be a visser. ] (]) 08:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Oh, come on, "]"!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:13, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

*Reminds me, when I was in high school, I called one girl a "]". It... didn't end well. But at least there were no ] around.
:On a completely unrelated note, I am now transcribing a Dutch-language poem and getting confused by all the k's and jt's and what not. "Ik heb ... ik vind nog een knopje van vreugde" or whatnot.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::Watch out for the ]. I think I've seen my name spelt as Martjin more than as Martijn on Misplaced Pages. Apparently it's tricky. ] (]) 10:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::*{{U|Crisco 1492}}, I'm interested in that poem of yours. Also, I think Martijn and I both know what is meant by that "knopje van vreugde"--and if you can't figure it out, re-read the last stanza of Keats's Ode on Melancholy. ] (]) 15:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:::*. "Mijn Hart", by ], typed out from ]'s biography by someone who really should have gone and taken Dutch lessons.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 15:13, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::*I'd blame y'all for the diagraphs and diphthongs the Indonesians use, but if y'all hadn't brought them here, I'd be stuck learning Arabic calligraphy. So... thanks?<!--and yes, this is in jest-->&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 15:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::WEll, I took ''The Fishermans Fancy''. ] (]) 12:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Hmm. That puts all the agency with him. ] (]) 15:08, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:::*Whereas "Fishy Lover" puts the agency on the fish. You know, ].&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 15:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
*"Fisherman Fenestrates for Fair Maiden's Favor"? -- (best I could do). ] (]) 15:15, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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IP range block might need an update

Hi Drmies, this post is about the IPv6 range 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:0:0:0:0/64 that you partially blocked for 1 week from editing AN/I. A little less than an hour later, User:Cullen328 actually site-blocked the singular IP in that range 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:6463:27AE:4C80:E87B for a couple of days with no talk page access. Since then, like happens with many IPv6 connections, the user's IP address switched over to 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:9541:B21:E7F0:1D7F very shortly after, which allowed them to continue posting on that previous IP's talk page in spite of the previous IP's block with no talk page access. Given that this is technically block evasion, I'm thinking maybe the /64 rangeblock should be updated to a full one?

Regards, — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I left a note for Cullen cause I had to run, but I'll go ahead and stop that yapping. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Yeah, sorry Drmies, my wife and I had to pick up some prescriptions (we're 72), go to the hardware store as part of our ongoing battle against the rats, and stop at Target. We just got home. Cullen328 (talk) 02:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
      • I took care of it. Rats? Brrrr. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Yeah they are creepy and filthy and befoul any accessible food, but that's the least of it. They have twice chewed partly through pex fresh water lines in the crawl space under our house, which soaked a lot of insulation too. Very expensive chaos. Second incident discovered today. It's an ongoing debacle and I have a grudge against all rodents at this point. Cullen328 (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
        @Cullen328: Do you routinely distribute rodenticide in key locations? I do so weekly, and the problems are much improved. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
        • Deepfriedokra, we live in a semi-rural area with lots of beneficial wildlife like deer, rabbits and squirrels plus pets like cats and dogs, so pest control professionals prefer to avoid most poisons and rely on traps and repellents instead. There is also the hidden dead rat odor problem. We are going to start a very specialized product called RatX in the next few days. Cullen328 (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Oh Lord, rats are a horrible problem. Hope you can get rid of them. Do you guys have any cats? And I think that having a lot of insects and whatnot in your house is considered something of a way of life, but imo, definitely not true nowadays. My house suffers from a lot of silverfish, and my family has been trying to use boric acid to try and stop them. Strong substance, perhaps, but definitely useful. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I only use the poison in the house- behind stove, fridge, and washing machine. Fortunately they leave before dying. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I use road flares in their burrows outdoors. Close up as many holes as you can find except one, light the road flare and stick it fire side in and cover it up. Carbon monoxide takes care of it. Keeping livestock I have a significant rat population outside that I have to keep in check. As for inside, cats. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          (edit conflict) Like Cullen, we too live in a rural area. Fortunately, we haven't had any rats (one bat, though - and that was horrible), but we do have mice. Don't know if they'll work with larger rodents, but we leave sticky traps for the mice in our garage, and, thus far, that keeps them out of the house, killing them before they can enter.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Is that better than roaches, Bbb23? Drmies (talk) 19:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          You'd think an indoor pit bull would prevent rats. She does not. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Need a ratter, not a big dog. My little lady kills quite a few rats outside. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Mice are stupid and don't get too trap averse. Much more difficult to trap rats long term. With mice I've found a bucket trap to be very effective. A 5 gallon bucket with a ramp leading to the top. Fill it halfway with water, then cover the water with sunflower seeds. The mice climb up and hop in to get the seeds and can't get out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I do think cats make good pets too. They're good at catching mice and rats, as well as defeating snakes. I'm sure the reaction time of a cat is about 20-44 milliseconds compared to a snake which has like 44-70 milliseconds. I also think that cats are the general predator of snakes. But staying on topic, I do feel like it would be best to have a cat as a pet (I certainly don't have a cat, though) for catching rats. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Top AfC Editor

The Articles for Creation Barnstar 2024 Top Editor
In 2024 you were one of the top AfC editors, thank you! --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • I was, Ozzie10aaaa?? I had no idea--I think that also shows that it would be good if more people got involved with it. I think the backlog is creeping towards 2,000 again. Anyway, thanks: I appreciate it! Drmies (talk) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Drmies, you probably wouldn't have been if we had an actual full year of data (that data is just from the last month or so). But if you kept up that same pace through the whole year... yeah, maybe you still would be. We truly need all the help we can get. -- asilvering (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hello Drmies: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025

Hello Drmies, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. 

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Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Drmies, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
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May Sinterklaas be good to you ...

Please leave your wooden shoes out for him to fill with presents.

Have a good one, Doc, and thanks for filling our wiki-lives with cheer.

Love, Softlavender (talk) 01:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

About your block of Ayomikun445

Quack, quack.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

DCAU page

Hi! I'm currently engaged in an edit war with a user who believes that two films released in 2017 and 2019 are canon to an animated universe of TV shows from 1992-2006. I've provided multiple clear as day sources from the people who worked on these that show this isn't the case.

You can read it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:DC_Animated_Universe#Article_Cleanup Walterwhitehartwell (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

With respect to Bai Jingting

Hi, I seen few deletion, need clarity to improve. 1. For Philanthropic activity the source 8th line mentions artist name, need to understand why the source is doubtful. 2. If "features" is wrong vocabulary could it be replaced with other word? As new writer I observed many articles already accepted those details from years. Need to understand how to represent here with proper writing. SakuraSmart (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Not every time someone is mentioned in some competition they're "featured". If someone is featured it means they get a special placement, and there is no evidence at all that this is what is happening here. Yes, it's a buzzword now used for every guest performance and appearance, and we need to fight back, like linguistic warriors. I don't really know what you mean with "source 8th line", but if you're talking about this source, it's pretty obvious to me that that gossipy glossy website is NOT an acceptable, neutral, independent source for BLPs. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the reply. For Philanthropic activity link was used. 8th line suggest artist donation towards natural disaster. It was removed stating doubtful. If we mention actual ranks of few listings, instead of "feature" I hope it's fine provided link attached is not from gossip site and provides enough evidence. SakuraSmart (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
      • What 8th line? I see five lines, and then some weird image that took me 26 clicks on "Page Down" to get through--and then there's comments. Anyway, I see his name is mentioned, along with dozens of others, on a website that at best looks like a gossipy site for fans of entertainers. Whatever that site is, it's not publishing journalism; please see WP:RS. How much did he even give? Or did the record company give a few bucks in his name, to add to his resume? Who knows? Drmies (talk) 02:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Oh you mean the seventh line of that picture with a list of donors--who knows what that picture is, and what its authority is. Again, that's not how we operate here. It's too easy to manipulate pictures, and there's no source or context--"according to incomplete statistics" actually expresses part of the problem well. Drmies (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. "持续更新！汪峰章子怡林志玲黄晓明等为河南暴雨捐款". ent.ifeng.com (in Chinese). Retrieved 2024-12-17.

You are being discussed here

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User:Pinzunski/User:SukunaZenin and others

Thought they had given up and taken a new hobby, but nope... Here is this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:67D4:8700:461:2CED:6508:F5E3), for instance continuing with the transfer speculation at Francisco Trincão (and reinserting their ref that "supported" Sporting CP winning the title last season by mentioning a S.L. Benfica match!!), duly reverted! Ah, with a completely polite and encyclopedical edit summary, so let's see what their reply will be (because they WILL reinstate their version again!)...

Happy 2025, take care RevampedEditor (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring started already, please intervene (you or somebody) ASAP! --RevampedEditor (talk) 17:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey)

The article for Columbia High School (New Jersey) definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. Alansohn (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. Tarlby 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally the minute I sent this lol. Tarlby 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! Drmies (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" Tarlby 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? Tarlby 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. Drmies (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. Tarlby 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

120.21.0.0/16

Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at Special:Contributions/120.21.0.0/16, and there are no deleted contributions. Nyttend (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Hey Nyttend--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. Drmies (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Advice needed

How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her additions are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? The Banner talk 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Football sock

Not college football, but still... See WP:ANI#Footballnerd2007. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--Bbb23 (talk) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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I stopped e-mailing you long ago, since it always bounced, but perhaps it may be worth trying again? Bishonen | tålk 09:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC).

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WP is not a Multilingual dictionary

Please take a look at Addition_to_WP:NOTDICTIONARY and comment. Though this may be implied by other policies, I think it's worthwhile making it explicit. Thanks, --Macrakis (talk) 19:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

FORDROCKEFELLER1974

See UTRS appeal #98810. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at User_talk:TTTEMLPBrony. What are your thoughts? Note that I have not looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --Yamla (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. Drmies (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Beeldenstorm

Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Johnbod, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by User:ST47ProxyBot--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Open proxies isn't very insightful. I see User:Malcolmxl5 is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. User:Ponyo, if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a second?

Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at User:54rt678/sandbox and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. BusterD (talk) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. BusterD (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. BusterD (talk) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. BusterD (talk) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd burnt the Packers in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... BusterD (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. Drmies (talk) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. Doug Weller talk 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Maybe, Doug, but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't hold themselves accountable, how can we? BusterD (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Ha, is that a rhetorical question? Drmies (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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User:Pinzunski/User:SukunaZenin

Returned to Francisco Trincão AGAIN, with that nonsensical ref about a BENFICA match for a SPORTING championship win (reverted it on the spot)! I guess the rest can stay (should you see that the sources are appropriate, if not remove it), will duly compose it (i.e. Style of play section) when i get home.

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