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== Keep me posted == == January music ==
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Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. -- ] (]) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
&mdash; ''']''' (]) 02:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you, I will. --] (]) 10:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC) :Happy New Year! ] (]) 20:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:: Did you listen to the music? (Take the last movement if you have little time, but the yt not the lilypond). --] (]) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

:::Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. ] (]) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
== Uncommunicative editing by IP 91.122.2.96 ==
:::: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

::::: Lovely! Keep up the good work. ] (]) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
John, can you possibly warn @91.122.2.96 about his/her uncommunicative edits on wikipages Action (physics), Planck constant, and Zero-energy universe? @Hroðulf has also tried to work constructively with the situation. Thanks, ] (]) 18:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
:I blocked them for their combative behaviour. --] (]) 19:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC) :::::: I try ;) - My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --] (]) 10:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Fascinating. I had never heard of him. ] (]) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::: same for me --] (]) 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::: Happy birthday! I'm at a birthday celebration ;) - enjoy! --] (]) 11:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 04 March 2015 == == Lake Michigan Monster ==


hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on '']''. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. ] (]) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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:Looks pretty good to me. What does {{u|Ceoil}} think? ] (]) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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::He has not been on the past week or so and has not replied to a chat I sent. I guess we will have to wait and see.--] (]) 23:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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==Joy Division== == +rollback ==
This showed amazing resilience for such young guys. I'd like to emphasise N.O. more in the lead; for me JD is more about Summer and Mr Hannet than Curtis. Though I started life as a bass player, cough. ] (]) 03:15, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
:Funny you should say that, I was a bass player at one time too. I liked both bands very much, but I think I (slightly) went off NO latterly. JD and Curtis benefited from the Marilyn Munro effect; by dying young and beautiful they became heroes for ever. --] (]) 12:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
::Hmm, if I think about it, the scattering of songs that I am really fond of over the whole period (1977-present) are pretty even (Isolation/Transmission/No Love Lost as my 3 preferred JD tracks - Ceremony/Age of Consent/Everythings Gone Green/True Faith/Jetstream fave NO tracks). Funny thing is of my 2 older kids, my son prefers JD and daughter NO. Agree about Munro effect - even happened to INXS, who by the time of MH's passing were descending into mediocrity. ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:02, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


Hi {{u|John}}, as a former administrator and thus obviously also a former rollbacker, you won't need the following information. But getting a permission (and granting it, admittedly) would only be half as enjoyable (to me, admittedly) without the message I customized for this purpose. So I absolutely have to. Feel free to remove it and welcome back! ] (]) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== I Saw You Act More in Sorrow than in Vexation ==


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After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the ] group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:
I'd consider giving you , but it's too small for the human eye to see and I've lost it already. Oh, well. At least it's somewhere here at home, and I get to share the honor with wonderful people like you, who I'm sure at ''least'' get a visible strip of ! ] (]) 11:40, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
*Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing ].
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To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to ], and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on ] if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Misplaced Pages. Happy editing!<!-- "User:ToBeFree/rollbackgiven", loosely based on "Template:Rollback granted 3" -->
:Thank you, I appreciate your comments very much. --] (]) 12:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


Best regards,<br>] (]) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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:Ooooh! Rollback. How very ! ] (]) 22:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Oh heh! I didn't know that's a thing. ] (]) 22:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, now we can all see why users ] to become ] and/or ]. Yay! ] (]) 22:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*Many thanks, {{u|ToBeFree}} and thanks for the really nice message and carefully crafted template. ] (]) 00:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


==Happy Birthday!==
Greetings John! I was wondering if you had time to have a quick look at the article ]? There seems to be some problems with a few IP editors: 2.27.78.251, 2.27.78.13, and 163.167.125.215. I'll try to explain the problem with a few bullet points real simple and short:
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# The first IP editor added a section about ''Manchester Unity Credit Union'' on 25th February, but the text couldn't be verified by the source.
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# I rewrote the first paragraph on 8th March in such a way that it would correspond what the source actually said.
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# My edit got reverted, however, by the second IP with an Edit Summary "''rv.''"; the source still couldn't verify the text.
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# I reverted this unexplained edit back to the previous version, but it got reverted by the same IP editor again, this time with an Edit Summary of "''inelegant prose''".
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# I messaged the IP editor's Talk Page, and explained him that the source does not support the text, and asked him to address what's exactly wrong with my edit instead of mere blind objection.
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# While waiting for the user to reply, I tagged the paragraph with <nowiki>{{fv}}</nowiki>, and the paragraph right below with <nowiki>{{citation needed}}</nowiki>. This got reverted by the third IP editor per "''rv. not controversial statement''". As far as I am concerned, one has right to tag unsourced pieces of text per ]. I believe the same applies to pieces of text that have failed verification.
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# I restored the tags with an Edit Summary: "''The first paragraph is not supported by the source, and the second paragraph clearly lacks of a souce | I've asked an admin to take a look at this''", and shortly after the same IP editor removed the tags again, this time by saying that "''rv. for reasons already given''"
| text = <big>'''Happy birthday!'''</big><br />Hi John! On behalf of the ], I'd like to wish you a very happy birthday! Enjoy this special day! ] (]) 05:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
It seems there have suddenly popped up three different IP editors, all editing over the same content, and all of which seem to share the same interest towards credit unions according to their user contributions. Do you think they might be socks? I hope you have time to take a look, thanks. ] (]) 11:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
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:I set out the sequence of events . You will see that ] is making a habit of bad faith accusations. ] (]) 14:56, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::Yepp, when I asked for the page protection, I mistakenly reported only one IP instead of two. After that, a third IP has already appeared. ] (]) 17:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:::I've protected one week and removed the dubious material per WP:V. I agree something looked dodgy about those edits. --] (]) 21:45, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Er, what looked dodgy exactly? ] (]) 22:03, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.

Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.

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January music

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Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year! John (talk) 20:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Did you listen to the music? (Take the last movement if you have little time, but the yt not the lilypond). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. John (talk) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Lovely! Keep up the good work. John (talk) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I try ;) - My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Fascinating. I had never heard of him. John (talk) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
same for me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Happy birthday! I'm at a birthday celebration ;) - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Lake Michigan Monster

hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on Lake Michigan Monster. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Looks pretty good to me. What does Ceoil think? John (talk) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
He has not been on the past week or so and has not replied to a chat I sent. I guess we will have to wait and see.--Paleface Jack (talk) 23:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

+rollback

Hi John, as a former administrator and thus obviously also a former rollbacker, you won't need the following information. But getting a permission (and granting it, admittedly) would only be half as enjoyable (to me, admittedly) without the message I customized for this purpose. So I absolutely have to. Feel free to remove it and welcome back! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi John,

After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Users should be informed (or warned) after their edits have been reverted. If warnings repeatedly don't help, WP:ANI is the default place to go. In cases of very clear ongoing intentional damage to the encyclopedia, WP:AIV can be used.
  • Reverting someone's edits may confuse or upset them. Whenever other users message you on your talk page, please take the time to respond to their concerns; accountability is important. For most users who message you, the tone and quality of your answer will permanently influence their opinion about Misplaced Pages in general.
  • Because the plain default rollback link does not provide any explanatory edit summary, it must not be used to revert good faith contributions, even if these contributions are disruptive. Take the time to write a proper summary whenever you're dealing with a lack of neutrality or verifiability; a short explanation like "]" or "]" is helpful.
  • Rollback may never be used to edit war, which you'll notice to be surprisingly tempting in genuine content disputes. Please especially keep the three-revert rule in mind. If you see others edit warring, please file a report at WP:ANEW. The most helpful essay I've ever seen is WP:DISCFAIL; it is especially important for those who review content regularly.
  • If you encounter private information or threats of physical harm during your patrols, please quickly use Special:EmailUser/Oversight or Special:EmailUser/Emergency; ideally bookmark these pages now. See WP:OS and WP:EMERGENCY for details. If you're regularly patrolling recent changes, you will need both contacts sooner or later, and you'll be happy about the bookmarks.

To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Misplaced Pages. Happy editing!

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Ooooh! Rollback. How very exciting! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh heh! I didn't know that's a thing. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, now we can all see why users positively flock to become editors of good standing and/or lapsed Admins. Yay! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Birthday cake emojiHappy birthday!
Hi John! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy birthday! Enjoy this special day! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 05:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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