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| ==Chavez== | |||
| Hi Superflanker, I think you're doing a really good job on the Hugo Chavez page. Although I drop in to comment infrequently, it's on my watchlist and I follow the changes as much as I can. Keep up the good work.--] 00:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you, I try my best ] 00:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==User:Preform== | |||
| ==Thanks for reference fixes !== | |||
| Preform came on the unblock-en list and said that he's MagicKirin. ]|] 03:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| SuperFlanker, thanks so much for fixing the references on some of my last edits. I was lost in editing, suddenly saw the time, was very late, and had to dash out for a committment, so didn't have time to doublecheck my final work. Thanks again :-) ] 03:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :No problem ] 04:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Flanker, I saw you were struggling with the referencing mechanism. Maybe you've already figured it out, but unless you're using a particular reference more than one time, you don't have to give the source a name, although Enano did name them all when he converted them. If you do choose to name a reference, then you can use that reference name if you have to again reference the same source, later in the article. So, for references used more than once, naming them saves time, but for references used once, you don't have to name them. I went through the article yesterday, checking for duplicate references, and fixed them all. I'm sure that explanation probably only confused you worse. Maybe will help. Saludos, ] 01:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks I thought I had a hang of it with the Harvard references and then things changed ;) I sorta have a hang of it now I believe, thanks ] 01:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::The Harvard system that Enano used named every source, regardless of whether it was used once or not, and takes up a ton of space in the article. I'd like to replace them all, as I find time, to make the article easier to edit. I'm still having a hard time with how long it takes diffs to load, which makes it hard to check for vandalism. On the other hand, the article seems to have the participation of a lot of good vandal fighters, who catch things quickly. ] 01:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Been a pleasure working with you on ]== | |||
| SuperFlanker, I just want to say it has really been a pleasure to work with you, and the were appreciated. Needless to say, I will not likely ever put so much work into Misplaced Pages, if weeks of effort, consensus, and civility can be by the rude and , in violation of everything that Misplaced Pages allegedly ]. Saludos, ] 17:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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==Please desist== | ||
| Please desist from editing pages to promote a certain political viewpoint ] 14:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Even if it is found it is against policy (corrected link) ] 18:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Welcome back== | |||
| :Let me try to give an example you might understand. If Larry King, Dan Rather, George Bush, Tony Blair, Vicente Fox, Pat Robertson, Bill O'Reilly or Joe Bloe (Fulano de Tal) said, "Chávez is an extreme left winger", it would not necessarily be against policy to indicate that person X had said that, just because it's on a list of words that Wiki editors shouldn't use. The comment may not be worthy of adding to the article, but the policy you are (mis)quoting would not preclude adding it if it were a verifiable statement from a reliable source. If the editor provided a reference, we could all come to consensus about whether the statement merited inclusion, in the form of X person said Y, or Chávez has been described as ... The policy you are quoting is about words Wiki editors shouldn't use in describing someone. It is not about verifiable statements from reliable sources describing someone else. It is incorrect to dismiss the statment above out of hand, particularly not even knowing if it comes from a valid source (unlike the preponderance of biased sources currently used to reference this article). You cannot rewrite Wiki policies in such a way that the entire and balanced story about Chávez cannot be told. ] 03:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I'm glad to see you editing again. I think you will find this incident funny. By the way, the same user has ] about you in his user page, I was in the list too but he deleted me from the list after the checkuser was declined. ] 03:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Hey == | |||
| == I dont care == | |||
| This image is going to be deleated in 7 day. http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Su37_2.jpg. If you dont add where you got it and what the copyright status. --] 21:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I could care less what you personal think, Misplaced Pages is about people coming together just to write correct information. All you care about is to spin that information and make it around your personal belief system. ] 14:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Economic policy rewrite == | |||
| I assumed good faith but you personally lost it. And of a lot of other people. ] 15:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Actually I am waiting a bit for the main source to finish migrating to their new website, might start anytime this week. I will let you know.] 02:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Alright. -- ] 02:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| How much of that suitcase of money do you usually get?] 14:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| As one of the editors presently working on the ] article, I wondered if you could take a look at the above page. I'm interested in the lower section - as it crosses into one of my editing areas - including ]. I wondered if you could add any comments to the Mission Barrio Adentro talk page, I'm interested in what kind of response people have to the material presented as it may need some work.--] 03:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| ==Chavez== | |||
| I'm very sorry to see the direction you've taken on ]. Having the backing of other editors doesn't make it right to POV the articles: that goes against the spirit of Misplaced Pages; the same spirit we collaborated with so well for a long time. Finding increasingly extreme ways to keep neutral content out of Misplaced Pages is not in the spirit of Wiki. ] 00:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :That is exactly what I argue, Critiscism of Hugo Chavez may very well be the most POV article in all of those related to the topic, and it has nothing to do with the name. All of this was inevitable Sandy, that article had to go through the same rigorous standard of the mother article, all that has changed was the starting point and that the decision was taken today instead of god knows the mother article was finished.] 01:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| {{Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/MassMessage}} ] (]) 13:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::That is exactly what I argue, Critiscism of Hugo Chavez may very well be the most POV article in all of those related to the topic, and it has nothing to do with the name. All of this was inevitable Sandy, that article had to go through the same rigorous standard of the mother article, all that has changed was the starting point and that the decision was taken today instead of god knows the mother article was finished.] 01:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :::If it's OK with you, we'll keep the conversation in one place: I'll check your talk page, so we don't have to go back and forth. You are making justifications and rationalizations for not allowing NPOVing of the articles. The Criticism content was more strenously referenced than the original article, because most of Saravask's old content is still not referenced. Everything new we added to Criticism was well referenced, and you know that as well as I do. You may be able to argue it was a POV fork, but then you have to allow for the content to be merged back to the main article, where it started. I do feel that my good faith was taken advantage of, as it was I who willingly moved content to Criticism, which you have now blanked. This is not good faith editing, and the departure from Wiki policies grows more extreme by the day. ] 01:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::I did not take advantage of your good faith. The rules changed Sandy. Had you not summarized the critiscism section I would have deleted it along with the critiscism article and we would have started from scratch. The summary and the effort to do so at least left us with a stub. The article now has to followed what I said before, it must conform to what they say about Chavez explicitly, meaning no more inuendos, or guilt by association (the Castro quote), the BBVA corruption link might be next since the sources are not up to standard, and it is not sugar coating since the AN investigation faulted Michelena. The standards for criticism and the prose of that critiscism has been raised to increadibly high standards.] 01:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :::::No, those were always the standards, and none of the new content violated it. On the other hand, a lot of the old (Saravask version) content was not referenced. Just because YOU learned something new, don't assume the rest of us weren't following it all along. Please restore the content, or we will have to take this dispute to a higher level. ] 03:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Personal attack== | |||
| You have accused me, of vandalism and retaliation because I removed an unreferenced statement from the article to the talk page for discussion. I will excuse the personal attack this time, in the hope that it was not intended. Please don't accuse me of vandalism again, and please try to resume good faith. ] 22:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :The prose was referenced, conforms to ] and does not violate ] please do not remove. You want to debate it fine in the talk page, but your deletion is not conducive to an encyclopedia.] 22:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::That it conforms to ] is highly debatable, which is why it was removed to the talk page. That is not the point. Please refrain from accusing others of vandalism when making legitimate edits, or your edit summaries could be interpreted as personal attacks. Thank you, ] 22:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::It is not a personal attack Sandy, so please do not take it personally, you are not approaching this with a cool head. If the vandalism was considered a personal attack fine I apologize and take it back, however the removal cannot be allowed.] 22:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I could accept your apology, but you have just done it This is your third warning now to refrain from attacking my character or motives or good faith editing. I am not vandalizing, I am not retaliating, and I am certainly calm. As you know, we've had conversations before about and I will not accept any more personal attack characterizations, either on talk page or in edit summaries. Please refrain from describing me as retaliating or vandalizing in edit summaries, and please refrain from referring to my emotional state, unless you are able to see through your computer into mine. I am certainly calm, and expect these personal attacks to stop. ] 22:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==A Reflexion on BLP and the 2004 RR == | |||
| This BLP debate reminds me of the 2004 Recall Referendum: everybody agreed it had to be done but nobody knew <b>how</b> to to it. Now I understand better all this mess before Aug 2004. ] 22:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I would imagine, but the selectivity on who it applies to is too much, All I ask is that the accusation/attacks singles out Chavez/MCM specifically and says what the article says about him (no creative licence) but that is too much it seems.] 22:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Please desist from editing pages to promote a certain political viewpoint Lemorgoth 14:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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I'm glad to see you editing again. I think you will find this incident funny. By the way, the same user has some comments about you in his user page, I was in the list too but he deleted me from the list after the checkuser was declined. JRSP 03:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I dont care
I could care less what you personal think, Misplaced Pages is about people coming together just to write correct information. All you care about is to spin that information and make it around your personal belief system. Carlitos 14:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I assumed good faith but you personally lost it. And of a lot of other people. Carlitos 15:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
How much of that suitcase of money do you usually get?Carlitos 14:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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