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== Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2024 ==
== "Unlike many boxers, he was raised in a supportive, African American middle-class family." ==

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Request to change the sentence about Cherry Hill NJ being a suburb of Philadelphia. I am from Cherry Hill, it's in Camden County New Jersey, located in South Jersey. Very separate from Philadelphia, which is in an entirely different state. ] (]) 05:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{not done}}:<!-- Template:ESp --> see ] or other cities that are along/split by state borders ] (]) 06:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
::agree ] (]) 11:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

== Not done: ==

Request to change the sentence about Cherry Hill NJ being a suburb of Philadelphia. I am from Cherry Hill, it's in Camden County New Jersey, located in South Jersey. Very separate from Philadelphia, which is in an entirely different state ] (]) 13:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

:The ] crosses state lines, including New Jersey, and includes Cherry Hill. &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 14:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2024 ==

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Please correct grammar on this line:
"During two bouts he had in 1973 with Joe Bugner and Ken Norton, he wore a "People's Choice" robe which to him by Elvis Presley."

(perhaps insert "was given" after "robe which") ] (]) 22:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> Thanks! ] (]) 03:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

== Too much duplication of Ali's boxing career article ==


I think since there is a page for his boxing career, this page should be trimmed. A lot of it is just copied. Why does there need to be so much duplication? ] (]) 04:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Remove, please.<small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->


== Temica Williams allegation ==
== Presidential Citizens Medal ==


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I believe the section on this page saying that Bush gave Ali both the Presidential Citizens Medal and the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2005 is mistaken - Ali received the Citizens Medal from Clinton in 2001<ref>{{cite web|title=President Clinton Awards the Presidential Citizens Medals|url=http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Mon_Jan_8_141714_2001.html|website=http://clinton5.nara.gov/|publisher=The White House|accessdate=4 January 2015}}</ref>, and the only cited websites for those sentences only reference him receiving the Medal of Freedom.] (]) 00:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


''His mother Temica Williams (also known as Rebecca Holloway) launched a $3 million lawsuit against Ali in 1981 for sexual assault, claiming that she had started a sexual relationship with him when she was 12, and that her son Osmon (born 1977) '''was fathered by Ali when she was 17.'''''
== Rosa Ali removed ==


The source for this claim (https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/04/24/An-18-year-old-woman-has-filed-suit-seeking-3-million/3454356936400/) states that Williams was 18 when she filed the suit in 1981, and that her son was born in 1977, so she could not have been 17 when Ali (allegedly) fathered him. Could "when she was 17" be removed please as no source given supports this? ] (]) 17:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
As per this article about a hoax that inserted "rosa ali" into the article (), the following was made by {{ping|Gobonobo}} to remove a 10 year-old inaccuracy. -- ] | ] 12:34, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
:Closer to 8 years, but who's counting? :) Seriously, this was a pretty reprehensible act by Deacon. But it demonstrates how sneaky vandalism can get, and that we need to try harder to weed it out at the earliest possible point. If any statement of fact seems even the slightest off-the-wall, and it doesn't have a cite, it should at least have {{tl|Citation needed}} slapped next to it. ] <sup>] • ]</sup> 13:30, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
::The insertion included a youth club, a rose and a child. I have removed "A ] in Ali's hometown was named after him." -- ] (]) 19:08, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
:::That's the only part that rung true, but alas, without a cite, it should be gone too. I'm not sure if there's such a club or not. ] <sup>] • ]</sup> 19:19, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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  • In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
  • Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
  • Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
  • In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
  • Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself:
    "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
    The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
  • The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.
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  • In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
  • Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
  • Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
  • In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
  • Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself:
    "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
    The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
  • The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2024

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Request to change the sentence about Cherry Hill NJ being a suburb of Philadelphia. I am from Cherry Hill, it's in Camden County New Jersey, located in South Jersey. Very separate from Philadelphia, which is in an entirely different state. Zakkiyya8711 (talk) 05:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: see Cherry Hill, New Jersey or other cities that are along/split by state borders Cannolis (talk) 06:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
agree 31.94.10.146 (talk) 11:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Not done:

Request to change the sentence about Cherry Hill NJ being a suburb of Philadelphia. I am from Cherry Hill, it's in Camden County New Jersey, located in South Jersey. Very separate from Philadelphia, which is in an entirely different state 110.39.18.6 (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

The Philadelphia metropolitan area crosses state lines, including New Jersey, and includes Cherry Hill. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

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Please correct grammar on this line: "During two bouts he had in 1973 with Joe Bugner and Ken Norton, he wore a "People's Choice" robe which to him by Elvis Presley."

(perhaps insert "was given" after "robe which") Elwell149 (talk) 22:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! LizardJr8 (talk) 03:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Too much duplication of Ali's boxing career article

I think since there is a page for his boxing career, this page should be trimmed. A lot of it is just copied. Why does there need to be so much duplication? Seananony (talk) 04:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Temica Williams allegation

From the article:

His mother Temica Williams (also known as Rebecca Holloway) launched a $3 million lawsuit against Ali in 1981 for sexual assault, claiming that she had started a sexual relationship with him when she was 12, and that her son Osmon (born 1977) was fathered by Ali when she was 17.

The source for this claim (https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/04/24/An-18-year-old-woman-has-filed-suit-seeking-3-million/3454356936400/) states that Williams was 18 when she filed the suit in 1981, and that her son was born in 1977, so she could not have been 17 when Ali (allegedly) fathered him. Could "when she was 17" be removed please as no source given supports this? 86.130.132.192 (talk) 17:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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