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== Egad ==
== Amendment request: Discretionary sanctions/article probation (March 2015) ==

:''''']'''''
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'''Initiated by''' ] '''at''' 02:56, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

===Statement by Rich Farmbrough===
I submit that the following remedies are outdated, and therefore:
# clutter the list of discretionary sanctions and article probations.
# provide unnecessary complexity and instruction creep.
# place unwelcoming templates on article talk pages.

None of these remedies have been invoked for several years, if ever, one case has no admin action for nine years.

I have no doubt that there are other outdated remedies but these certainly are.

I propose that these remedies be struck

====1====
Case: ]

Remedy to be struck: ]

Passed: 27 October 2011

Last admin action: Never (22 December 2010 for previous version)

====2====
Case: ]

Remedy to be struck: ] (Amended version)
* Also strike ], since supervision remedy is already struck.

Passed: 8 March 2013

Last admin action: 24 July 2009

====3====
Case: ]

Remedy: ]

Passed: 1 February 2008

Last admin action: 1 April 2008

====4====
Case: ]

Remedy: ]

Passed: 2 January 2007

Last admin action: 3 March 2007


====5====
Case: ]

Remedy: ]

Passed: 9 November 2006

Last admin action: Never

====6====
Case: ]

Remedy 1: ] {{Break}}
Remedy 2: ]

Passed: 5 February 2008

Last admin action: 3 December 2010

====7====
Case: ]

Remedy 1: ] {{Break}}
Remedy 2: ] (lapsed)

Passed: c. 6 February 2006

Last admin action: 12 June 2006
====8====
Case: ]

Remedy: ]

Passed: 13 March 2008

Last admin action: 29 May 2008

====9====
Case: ]

* Remedy: ]
* Remedy: ]

Passed: 29 March 2007

Last admin action: 29 February 2008

====10====
Case: ]

Remedy: ]

Passed: 12 October 2009

Last admin action: 12 March 2011

====11====
Case: ]

Remedy: ]{{Break}}
Remedy: ]{{Break}}
Enforcement: ]

Passed: 1 July 2006

Last admin action: None

All&nbsp;the&nbsp;best: '']&nbsp;]'',&nbsp;<small>03:03,&nbsp;21&nbsp;March&nbsp;2015&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />

@Roger
* Delaying this for a short while is not a problem, though it is often better to break large tasks down, rather than heaping them up.
* I would be interested to hear about this other initiative. It might have been worth pinging me about it, given the discretionary sanctions clear up I initiated last year.
* It would be useful to explain why, for example, the log of admin actions ends in 2010 (]): if there are four more years of undocumented admin actions, then this is a significant problem in its own right.
* Note in regard to ''Armenia Azerbaijan 2'' that DS notifications are not counted as admin actions, as any editor may make a DS notification.
All&nbsp;the&nbsp;best: '']&nbsp;]'',&nbsp;<small>05:09,&nbsp;22&nbsp;March&nbsp;2015&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />
:Thanks T Canens, I have just found that log. I mentally threw my hands up in despair. All&nbsp;the&nbsp;best: '']&nbsp;]'',&nbsp;<small>05:25,&nbsp;22&nbsp;March&nbsp;2015&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />

@AGK - making it a table is a moment's work, unfortunately one that I am not allowed to perform here. I have created a table at ]. Feel free to import it, with attribution. You could, of course, have made the table yourself, instead of complaining about it.
All&nbsp;the&nbsp;best: '']&nbsp;]'',&nbsp;<small>05:09,&nbsp;22&nbsp;March&nbsp;2015&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />

=== Comment by T. Canens ===
{{ping|Rich Farmbrough}} The Troubles and ARBAA2 discretionary sanctions logs were moved to the centralized ]. ] (]) 05:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

=== Statement by Username ===

=== Statement by {other-editor} ===
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
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=== Discretionary sanctions/article probation: Clerk notes ===
*{{ping|NativeForeigner}} ] is the work in progress, plus I believe {{u|Roger Davies|Roger}} has a copy on the arbwiki. Or are talking about page in (onwiki) arbspace? <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
**{{ping|Rich Farmbrough|Rich}} I think I've got all of the old article probation remedies there but if you find any other please do let me know (I was only working from the list at ] so I may have missed some which aren't logged there). Chuck them on the talk page and I can stick them into the table if you can't. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:36, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
**Roger, I agree with both points. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:50, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

=== Discretionary sanctions/article probation: Arbitrator views and discussion ===
* '''Comment''': Thanks for looking at this, {{u|Rich Farmbrough|Rich}}. As there is another initiative afoot to tidy up old sanctions, it's best I think to combine this one, and that one, along with other amendments in a single housekeeping motion in a couple of month's time. We probably need to tidy up some of the old cases and that can be done then too. I don't agree with all your analyses incidentally: DS for The Troubles was used last December and Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 yesterday. &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 04:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
** {{reply|Callanecc|NativeForeigner}} I'd rather we didn't do anything on-wiki until we have all time to actively participate in it. There is also a risk that this will all ] into a big deal, when in fact it all looks routine. After the very major review last year, that seems unnecessary. Best we turn to this again once we have the two current (and likely messy) cases out of the way, &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 12:39, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': I'd also rather wait and do it all at once. ] (]) 10:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
* Decline per above, and I would suggest this would have been tidier submitted in a table. ] ]] 00:44, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
*Decline. Quite a few of these are still useful. All of them are harmless, and we're going to do a cleanup later this year. ] (]) 05:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' for now per my colleagues, but we will look at these suggestions as part of the cleanup in a couple of months. ] (]) 13:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' --] &#124; ] 17:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
*Might be good to actually set up another subpage for the upcoming tidying initiative. '']'' <sup>]</sup> 00:50, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
:*{{reply|Callanecc|Roger Davies}}. Seems reasonable, let's try and get it up a bit before we actually plan to action it for community comment. That being said with the current two cases + incoming (possible) case at ARCA, it might be a bit. '']'' <sup>]</sup> 23:21, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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== Motion: Dreadstar desysopped (March 2015) ==

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{{archive top}}
For conduct unbecoming an administrator, namely
#{{plainlink|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive877&oldid=653108817#Dreadstar|name=sending an insulting e-mail}} to an editor he had just sanctioned,
#{{plainlink|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Laurence_Olivier&action=history&year=2015&month=3&tagfilter=|name=edit warring}} on an article and then {{plainlink|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Laurence_Olivier&diff=653304168&oldid=653304106|name=protecting his preferred version}}, and
#{{plainlink|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3AMarkBernstein&year=2015&month=3&tagfilter=|name=lifting an arbitration enforcement block}} out of process,<p>
{{user|Dreadstar}} is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a ].

:''{{ACMajority|active = 14 |inactive = 1 |recused = 0 |motion = yes}}''

'''Enacted''' - --''']''' (] / ] / ]) 22:22, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

;Support
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> ''']'''</span> ] 19:41, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# Unfortunate but necessary. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 19:48, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:#Every last one of these would be worth a desysop, really. In conjunction, no other choice is possible. ] (]) 19:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# This vote is based on actions 1 and 3, because, as indicated above, I'm recused with respect to action 2. ] (]) 19:51, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# Per 2 and 3. -- ] (]) 19:55, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# ''']<font color="darkgreen">]</font>''' 19:58, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 20:21, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:#: {{u|NE Ent}} Dreadstar has unilaterally reversed an arbitration action before and has already been given ]. &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 06:18, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
:# ] <small>]</small> 20:24, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# '']'' <sup>]</sup> 20:53, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:# --] &#124; ] 01:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
:# as with Thryduulf, based on #1 and #3''']''' (]) 02:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
:# with regret that it became necessary. ] (]) 08:32, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
:# -- ] ] 14:50, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

;Oppose
:#

;Abstain
:#

;Recuse
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== Page length ==

] is so extraordinarily long. Since it's separate discussions from the original case and from multiple requests for clarification/amendment/etc., would it be reasonable to split off the discussions into subpages that would be linked from the main talk page? ] (]) 22:48, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

== E cig arbitration ==


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Don't listen to {{ping|SPACKlick}}. The arbs and especially Bishonen have it right. SPACKlick has been filibustering a discussion at ] for three months. We now have a consensus that the description "Muhammad forbidding intercalation" is wrong but SPACKlick has reverted "no consensus". With RfC/U now defunct and DRN unlikely to lead anywhere, how about unprotecting the Arbitration/requests page? ] (]) 11:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
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