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Hi Drmies, this post is about the IPv6 range ] that you partially blocked for 1 week from editing AN/I. A little less than an hour later, ] actually site-blocked the singular IP in that range ] for a couple of days with no talk page access. Since then, like happens with many IPv6 connections, the user's IP address switched over to ] very shortly after, which allowed them to continue posting on that previous IP's talk page in spite of the previous IP's block with no talk page access. Given that this is technically block evasion, I'm thinking maybe the /64 rangeblock should be updated to a full one?
Is there reason for this to exist? <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy">]<span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span>]</span> 18:43, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:Or ]? --]<sup>(]) </sup> 19:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
*]. ] (]) 01:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
::Good catch, K, and thanks, Drmies! <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy">]<span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span>]</span> 19:53, 12 April 2015 (UTC)


Regards, —&nbsp;] ] 01:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
==The famous Dutch Woman==
*Yeah, I left a note for Cullen cause I had to run, but I'll go ahead and stop that yapping. Thanks, ] (]) 01:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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**Yeah, sorry Drmies, my wife and I had to pick up some prescriptions (we're 72), go to the hardware store as part of our ongoing battle against the rats, and stop at Target. We just got home. ] (]) 02:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
The famous Dutch Woman... yes -famous. ] (]) 22:09, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
*Ah! That's the one? I'm so glad I finally have a picture of her--thanks! ] (]) 01:50, 12 April 2015 (UTC) ***I took care of it. Rats? Brrrr. ] (]) 02:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***Yeah they are creepy and filthy and befoul any accessible food, but that's the least of it. They have twice chewed partly through ] fresh water lines in the crawl space under our house, which soaked a lot of insulation too. Very expensive chaos. Second incident discovered today. It's an ongoing debacle and I have a grudge against all rodents at this point. ] (]) 02:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
***:{{yo|Cullen328}} Do you routinely distribute rodenticide in key locations? I do so weekly, and the problems are much improved. ] (]) 10:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:{{u|Deepfriedokra}}, we live in a semi-rural area with lots of beneficial wildlife like deer, rabbits and squirrels plus pets like cats and dogs, so pest control professionals prefer to avoid most poisons and rely on traps and repellents instead. There is also the hidden dead rat odor problem. We are going to start a very specialized product called RatX in the next few days. ] (]) 17:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::Oh Lord, rats are a horrible problem. Hope you can get rid of them. Do you guys have any cats? And I think that having a lot of insects and whatnot in your house is considered something of a way of life, but imo, definitely not true nowadays. My house suffers from a lot of ], and my family has been trying to use ] to try and stop them. Strong substance, perhaps, but definitely useful. ] (]) 17:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::I only use the poison in the house- behind stove, fridge, and washing machine. Fortunately they leave before dying. ] (]) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::I use road flares in their burrows outdoors. Close up as many holes as you can find except one, light the road flare and stick it fire side in and cover it up. Carbon monoxide takes care of it. Keeping livestock I have a significant rat population outside that I have to keep in check. As for inside, cats. ] (]) 18:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::{{ec}} Like Cullen, we too live in a rural area. Fortunately, we haven't had any rats (one bat, though - and that was horrible), but we do have mice. Don't know if they'll work with larger rodents, but we leave sticky traps for the mice in our garage, and, thus far, that keeps them out of the house, killing them before they can enter.--] (]) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::Is that better than roaches, {{U|Bbb23}}? ] (]) 19:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::::You'd think an indoor pit bull would prevent rats. She does not. ] (]) 18:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::::Need a ratter, not a big dog. My little lady kills quite a few rats outside. ] (]) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****:::::Mice are stupid and don't get too trap averse. Much more difficult to trap rats long term. With mice I've found a bucket trap to be very effective. A 5 gallon bucket with a ramp leading to the top. Fill it halfway with water, then cover the water with sunflower seeds. The mice climb up and hop in to get the seeds and can't get out. ] (]) 19:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
****::::::I do think cats make good pets too. They're good at catching mice and rats, as well as defeating snakes. I'm sure the reaction time of a cat is about 20-44 milliseconds compared to a snake which has like 44-70 milliseconds. I also think that cats are the general predator of snakes. But staying on topic, I do feel like it would be best to have a cat as a pet (I certainly don't have a cat, though) for catching rats. ] (]) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


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*I was, ]?? I had no idea--I think that also shows that it would be good if more people got involved with it. I think the backlog is creeping towards 2,000 again. Anyway, thanks: I appreciate it! ] (]) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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*:@], you probably wouldn't have been if we had an actual full year of data (that data is just from the last month or so). But if you kept up that same pace through the whole year... yeah, maybe you still would be. We truly need all the help we can get. -- ] (]) 18:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


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== Happy Holidays ==
Hello. A few days ago, a brand new user created a slew of barebones articles about non-notable songs all by the same band and all of which say basically nothing (]). Can they just all be redirected to the appropriate album, discography, group article, whatever? Do we really have to go through a whole merge proposal process or AFD all of them? If I redirect them, what do I use as justification? This is so frustrating - seems like my efforts to get rid of crap song articles are just a drop in the bucket, ha ha. Thanks~ ] (]) 21:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
:I boldly redirected all of them. They contained no information not already present in their album article and the group article. If someone wants to kick me off wikipedia for it, so be it. ] (]) 22:09, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
*Well, I doubt that anyone will kick you off the project for redirecting ! Holy moly that is bad. Thanks. ] (]) 00:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Also, which "brand new" user? ] (]) 00:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:*They're nearly all that bad (kpop song articles), and yet you see how much people argue to keep them, throwing all kinds of nasty accusations at anyone who wants to just merge them, letalone delete them. And people scream even after the merges, even when not a single bit of actual info has been removed. I just wish a lot more editors would come along and do what I've just done, to keep all the weight off my shoulders. There's so so sooooo many of them that need to just stop existing, LOL. The newly-registered username is linked above, Purpleberrybomb. Actually a brand new editor? Well who knows, ha ha. (Man, I really want to get back to improving articles about stuff I actually care about, but the parade of songcrap never ends.) ] (]) 01:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


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Somebody has been messing around with the articles ] and ]. To my opinion, the articles are in fact correct but a lot of history is lost due to a cut and past move. Can you, or any other admin, fix this? I think I miss the right tools to do that. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 18:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
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*OK Banner, is one obvious problem. But the funny thing is, in that same history was a similar error, , and deletion may actually solve the problem. Then again, I'm watching an episode of ''House'', so strange twists are to be expected. ] (]) 00:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
**Thank you very much. No strange explosions noted on the way. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 03:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
***Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Still, please ping {{U|Kelapstick}}; he's much better at tedious stuff than I am, and loves mining into old layers of crap. Zing! ] (]) 03:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


== May Sinterklaas be good to you ... ==
== A long history==


Please leave your wooden shoes out for him to fill with presents.
{{ping|Drmies}} you have no idea of the scope of this matter. If you dig into the last 3 months of drama and non stop aggression directed at me and my responding with what I felt was a honest reply to the users months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks, you are completely out of line here. If you care to bring up your concerns with the Signpost editor please do so. It has been almost non stop for months. I have tried and tried and tried to get the user to relax but it just continued and continued and continued. Do your research please before calling me a asshole. This is about 2 months of drama that most the SP editors are tired of already. I am not the source of the drama. We all made a stream of attempts to get the user to talk, and now to make believe that it was a typo and she meant to tell me that "I would go out and shout people in the street", give me a break. We all choose our own paths in this world and every editor of the signpost will tell you just how much I have tried to get this user to be reasonable. We all would rather Haffy calmed down and worked as a team member, but the cumulative number of random passive aggressive actions that have been directed at me with no justification whatsoever has become something no one wants to deal with. I am sorry if calling someone's behavior out as childish was not candy coated enough, perhaps that might cross cultural lines to be a offensive thing, but I know all the SP editors feel the same way. ]
*I gave you a break. And just like Ed didn't call Hafs a sexist (or a troll), I didn't call you an asshole. Hafs makes enough typos for this to have been a likely one. And I will tell you something else, WPPilot: that last sentence of yours is completely assholish. This, this talkpage, is a happy place, and such passive-aggressive whining about supposed "cultural lines" ] is not allowed here. And if Hafs had ''really'' been on a three-month crusade during which they were persecuting you, *cough cough*, then maybe you should have done something about it, something within our guidelines. Thank you. ] (]) 00:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::I am sorry but the typo excuse fails when later Haffy clearly placed on her page the People in the US go around shooting each other, but that does not happen in Sweden (I am paraphrasing here) further substantiating what the intent of the original comment was designed to do. I in no way apologized so I have nothing to disguise. I have tried to be civil and work as a team at all times. I have NEVER considered any of my contributions to SP FC, as final drafts, this is all about my being a co editor on SP FC section. No one requires a invite to join that group. I have been contributing to the section in the way of photography now for 6 years and felt that I could assist. Haffy was at one time grateful and during a ]. Enough is enough and I have washed my hands of this. '''If Haffy wants to have a online convo via Skype with the editorial staff of the signpost the invite is wide open and I would be glad to join and have dialog''', off site but with this post '''I will not address this, or the user again, on this site,''' ''in the hopes that we are all able to continue productively contributing to the site.'' Thank you and I am sorry if anyone was offended, I would love to chalk it up to cultural differences and just go back, but clearly Haffy seems to want me to dis continue contributing to the SP, something any of us can do and she is clearly set on her dramatic exit. So be it. Cheers! ]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span> 00:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::There's also the of "shoting" to "shooting." In any case, it would probably be best to back away from all this and let tempers, mine included (I'm a "bully" now?), subside before entering into a dialogue. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 00:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Ed, I read that correction quite differently from how you do, but hey. Pilot, nothing personal here; I understand everyone's on edge and short-tempered, and so am I--please forgive me for being straightforward. I've let Hafspajen know where I stand as well: sort of in the middle, I suppose. I kind of want everyone to get along, of course, and I don't know if that's possible here, but I'd like a reduction of response and commentary. I think Hafs could also have done a better job at containment, but seriously, Pilot--if you think that the other party is at fault, or trolling, or whatever, then there's little point in going to their talk page to scold them... ] (]) 01:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Pilot, I think what Hafspajen might want you to do is stop yelling, and take back some of those comments. Pot, kettle: there's plenty of drama to go around here. ] (]) 14:55, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yes. I wanted you to do is stop yelling, maybe I shouldt use that sho--- word, since I obviously can't spell it. '''''You are completely out of line''''' looks like your favorite expression. Sorry Drmies, that now it was you who got that thrown in your face. {{U|WPPilot}}, I have a suggestion, take this matter to ANI. Say that I was directing non stop aggression directed at you, several month, provide diffs and go and launch your case, please. ] (]) 15:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


Have a good one, Doc, and thanks for filling our wiki-lives with cheer.
::::::Sounds like an excellent idea. Otherwise, it's just a lot of he said she said. On two different talk pages. Each with its own version. No one wants to dig into three months of anything to find out what is going on. Let's just chalk it up to built-up personality differences, or bad moments/days/week/moods/whatever. And take some time to chill out. ] (]) 15:28, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


Love, ] (]) 01:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
'''*{{ping|Hafspajen}} I am super and extremely sorry that you and I had any indifference, and that my comments have offended you. We were working well in the past, and I think of you as a friend. You have previously been supportive and I was grateful for that support. Please forgive any miss understands that we have had, and please please please, forgive me, and any frustrations that I may have caused you, that was NEVER my intent. Sincerely: "WPPilot" ]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span> 16:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)'''
*Oh ], that is very nice of you--thank you very much. I assume you set your shoe too? Don't forget to put a carrot in there, right? That reminds me: I'll be making oliebollen for New Year's. All the best to you and yours, and thanks for sticking around and helping out on our beautiful project. ] (]) 23:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::* Why do I have the feeling that I am talking to two different persons suddenly? You say you are sorry, you think about me as a friend, and never intended any frustration that you caused. Just above you said something very different, plus on number of talkpages around Misplaced Pages. Those are pretty serious accusations, and you succeeded to convince like almost the entirely Sing post redaction about it. They all think about me as a totally crazy unreliable person by now. Witch part did you '''really''' meant?
**Ah, ] are a new one on me! Here in Hawaii, we have a doughnutty thing called ]s, which are eaten all year round, just like ]! Have a great New Year! ] (]) 00:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::* Do you really think that I was directing '''''non-stop aggression towards you, and months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks''''', or not? ] (]) 18:46, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*{{ping|Hafspajen}} Hur säger man ''"Chill Out"'' på svenska? I am going to stick to myself. I have said I was sorry and have in the past when you took things the wrong way. I do not want to put any further time into this. My comment about you acting childish was something that I would say to my 73 year old mother if I felt that way about something she was doing, so I was treating you as anyone else around me and it is not cause to have a digital meltdown or create a section of your talk page dedicated to the drama. Communication is key to any group and its ability to be productive. That is what I am about, working as a part of a group for a common objective. I am not going to address your comments above. I have not convinced anyone of anything, we are all free to make our own judgments and using reasonable logic come to a conclusion. I have decided not to dredge up every interaction in the historical archives and have made a point of keeping my comments to a minimum. Please take a break, go have some Aquavit & Pittapanna (yummy). Don't forget to put the shot glass on your head, as we do in Norway. Ha en bra dag, smaklig malted, tack så mycket. (Ett språk är aldrig nog) ]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span> 20:03, 13 April 2015 (UTC


== About your block of Ayomikun445 ==
:* You say you are not not going to address your comments above. The next sentence you say communication is important. That is a contradiction. Either way, you see, before this I was seen as a valuable editor, not a problem editor. That is kinda gone now, thanks to your comments. You say it was me who took things the wrong way? It's only four(?) '''''' - and the same thing happened all over again.
::Also all this was forcing me to disclose my gender, something that I never wanted to do. I promised myself if this ever happen, I will quit. This was indirectly caused by you, . Ed was going by your comment. You did at least convinced at least one person, who never really knew me much before that I am making personal attacks. '' these attacks are going to continue to disrupt the process and by design my ability to contribute unless this is brought to the attention of Admins..'' This is something you wrote only a day ago. You also said like 5 hours ago above that ''this is about 2 months of drama ... I am not the source of the drama... I know all the SP editors feel the same way''. That leaves me as a reason, according to you.
::Yes, I feel that not only my personal honor is compromised, but my personal integrity as well. I am not taking this easily. It is nothing that it can be fixed with alcohol or chilling out. <sup>The comment about '''''putting a shot glass on your head''''' - could be misunderstood too, whatever that means, but never mind.</sup>.


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::I feel that first posting around accusations and than taking them back just as easily is kinda confusing. I still feel that if you think I indeed was directing non-stop aggression towards you, and months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks, than please provide diffs. Those are serious accusations. And if you make them please provide diffs on them, at least a couple. You say: '''''I have decided not to dredge up every interaction in the historical archives''''' .... why not? Because if you come up with these accusations than at least you can support them? ] (]) 20:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::* Or maybe you simply didn't meant all that seriously? ] (]) 22:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC) *I'm on it. ] (]) 15:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::* Or maybe because there is no such thing as me causing 3 months of drama and non stop aggression directed towards you and months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks? ] (]) 23:19, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


== DCAU page ==
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Hi! I'm currently engaged in an edit war with a user who believes that two films released in 2017 and 2019 are canon to an animated universe of TV shows from 1992-2006. I've provided multiple clear as day sources from the people who worked on these that show this isn't the case.
] Though I have little hope by now that the user will get a clue and discuss, instead o edit-warring. ] (]) 03:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Yep. Thanks. ] (]) 03:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


You can read it here.
== New user doesn't seem too new to me ==
https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:DC_Animated_Universe#Article_Cleanup ] (]) 23:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*I tried to read that: it's clear as mud. But yes you are in the middle of an edit war, and you really need to stop. If you want that talk page discussion, and your editing career, to go anywhere, you might could try making smaller edits and explaining them on the talk page--briefly, with sources. ] (]) 23:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*Blanking your talk page is not a good idea. ] (]) 23:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*], is this your only account? ] (]) 23:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*:Yes. I had a previous account a while back that I lost my password too.
*:The person who I'm having an edit war with literally went and removed my sources, while his sources are non-existent or incredibly flimsy. ] (]) 20:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== With respect to Bai Jingting ==
Hello yet again. You had a little break from me but never fear, I'm here to harass/beg/whine again. =) {{U|Bradley sniper}} seems off. It's a new account, and has already voted at least twice on kpop-related AFDs (], ]), going so far as to actually revert the blanking/redirection of a page whose AFD was closed as "delete and redirect" (). His edits on various anime pages don't look very "new user" to me. Could be a new name for an existing user, all totally legit, but in kpop, well, you know how it typically goes. It just doesn't pass the smell test to me, but I cannot offer evidence of wrongdoing. Any opinion or advice? ] (]) 04:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:I just realized he reinstated that deleted article three freaking times (). Doesn't that merit some kind of action? ] (]) 04:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Well, if they had been warned earlier, maybe. is a remarkable edit for a newbie, but it doesn't rise to the level of that other editor, what was it, that Purplebomb or whatever. That they stopped editing is suggestive, but I cannot in good conscience argue "returning editor under throwaway account avoiding scrutiny" like I could for Cherrybomb. I'd let it go, and see what happens: my guess is they're gone. What we really need is a few SPIs and a ton of CU evidence, since (as you know) I have a hunch that there's only a few dozen K-pop editors and a million accounts--but until {{U|Bbb23}} gets out of their heavy involvement with other editors, that will be hard to come by. ] (]) 14:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Shinyang, maybe you want to add ] and ] to your K-pop list? Thanks, ] (]) 14:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:*Actually the user just commented on an AFD yesterday. But I understand the predicament! It's all baffling to me ... all this over kpop! :) Will add those two items to the Korea-related discussion page - thanks! ] (]) 14:59, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:*Every single by TVXQ (the group whose song you AFD'd) has an article (see ]). Most look long but say pretty much nothing. See what I mean when I say this never ends? It takes a ton of work and fighting to AFD (or merge) even one of them and then there are a thousand more remaining. There's got to be a better way... Pleeeease? :) ] (]) 15:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::*I don't think there is a better way: as long as editors keep writing all that stuff up we have no choice but to deal with it the proper, policy-valid way. ] (]) 19:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::*Holy shit. Is that more than ]? Holy shit. ] (]) 19:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I seen few deletion, need clarity to improve.
== WP:INVOLVED? ==
1. For Philanthropic activity the source 8th line mentions artist name, need to understand why the source is doubtful.
2. If "features" is wrong vocabulary could it be replaced with other word? As new writer I observed many articles already accepted those details from years. Need to understand how to represent here with proper writing. ] (]) 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
*Not every time someone is mentioned in some competition they're "featured". If someone is featured it means they get a special placement, and there is no evidence at all that this is what is happening here. Yes, it's a buzzword now used for every guest performance and appearance, and we need to fight back, like linguistic warriors. I don't really know what you mean with "source 8th line", but if you're talking about , it's pretty obvious to me that that gossipy glossy website is NOT an acceptable, neutral, independent source for BLPs. Thanks, ] (]) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
**Thanks for the reply. For Philanthropic activity link <ref>{{Cite web |title=持续更新！汪峰章子怡林志玲黄晓明等为河南暴雨捐款 |url=https://ent.ifeng.com/c/883OdhBmV5C |access-date=2024-12-17 |website=ent.ifeng.com |language=zh}}</ref> was used. 8th line suggest artist donation towards natural disaster. It was removed stating doubtful. If we mention actual ranks of few listings, instead of "feature" I hope it's fine provided link attached is not from gossip site and provides enough evidence. ] (]) 23:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
***What 8th line? I see five lines, and then some weird image that took me 26 clicks on "Page Down" to get through--and then there's comments. Anyway, I see his name is mentioned, along with dozens of others, on a website that at best looks like a gossipy site for fans of entertainers. Whatever that site is, it's not publishing journalism; please see ]. How much did he even give? Or did the record company give a few bucks in his name, to add to his resume? Who knows? ] (]) 02:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
***Oh you mean the seventh line of that picture with a list of donors--who knows what that picture is, and what its authority is. Again, that's not how we operate here. It's too easy to manipulate pictures, and there's no source or context--"according to incomplete statistics" actually expresses part of the problem well. ] (]) 02:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


{{reflist-talk}}
! I didn't even know we had a working relationship, fragile or otherwise. I once asked an editor who complained about another editor on my Talk page whether the other editor was being disruptive. The editor graciously and candidly said, no, not disruptive, just annoying. Afterwards I thought to myself what would happen to Misplaced Pages if all ''annoying'' editors were blocked. It would be so much easier to administer, wouldn't it? And then I thought what would happen if all annoying administrators were also blocked. There'd be only one bland sweet unproductive editor and one laid back robotic administrator chatting about what they're going to do today. After hours of discussion, they finally decide: we'll do the same thing we did yesterday. Cheers.--] (]) 04:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Wait--whether you and I have a working relationship? We're like two peas in a pod! Wait--you involved with Flyer? Well, everyone is just about involved with everyone else. BMK knows I'd block him in a heartbeat if he starts talking musical comedy ''one more time'', even though he and I share a condo in Jersey. And , yeah, I find that potentially blockable as well. I believe that the blood of rattlesnakes should water the tyrant tree of liberties as much as the next guy/gal/zebra, but that sort of thing is asinine and I've blocked editors for similar edits also. ] (]) 14:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
**I had angelotti with morel mushrooms and fava beans for lunch. Not exactly peas but fava beans are soooo pretty, and the dish itself was lovely (taste-wise).--] (]) 22:31, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Wait, block me, I am annoying. My user page (head line "Hallelujah" because ] premiered on a 13 April, see OTD) shows "", and my talk the annoying image of monkeys, --] (]) 14:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:*Well, on the Swedish wiki you'd have been indeffed already! No monkey business! ] (]) 15:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::* Who, I? - monkeys yes, --] (]) 16:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::* ps: advice wanted, what would you do if someone described your user page like that? I tried to ignore so far but am not sure it's the right thing in this case, --] (]) 16:04, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::*Eh, I don't know--I guess I also would say nothing, or I'd say they were wrong. I actually don't see it because...well, it's rather cryptic (in the "workshop" section?). I clicked on two links, and the second one was to me, me! when we were merrily chatting about Saint B. So maybe there are links in there that Ernst think display all that, and maybe it's not a good idea to have such links on there, but it's hardly an ''open'' display of hostility etc. Given the atmosphere, it's probably best to say nothing. I sound like a broken record--there are many, many things that it seems we should just say nothing about. BTW, Ernst suggested I consider starting an RfC, but that's not going to happen: I'm on the fence on the general topic, sure, but I have the feeling that there is no neutral question to ask in the first place, and RfCs aren't typically "general". ] (]) 17:32, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::* Thank you for supporting what is easiest: nothing. An RfC is not useful because it seems rather a narrow corner of the project which can be avoided. The "logic" that I must be hostile because I have been restricted is easy but wrong ;) - I have not been in a single edit war in my career here (I mean: I have not made 3 reverts of the same thing in a day) and plan to keep it that way. --] (]) 17:39, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::*:Well, I can be a bit more explicit: ], I don't think that comment was really warranted and it's not in the best interest of the project. The content I think you were pointing at is clearly (IMO) not inflammatory enough (if at all) to be characterized thusly. Please consider striking it: it will make you look better in the eyes of ____ (fill in the blank). Thanks, ] (]) 17:43, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::* (after rehearsal, Brixi - Pärt - Mozart) clarifying: there is nothing to strike because it is part of a declined arb request which I had said to unwatch during the Holy Week. - It strikes me as odd that {{diff|User talk:Dr. Blofeld|651112327|651111877|I had to apologize}} for having told someone that ]. Obviously my idea of hostility is different. - The links on my user page help me to remember nice chats, - "pride and prejudice" is simply factual, - look for "laugh" for a laugh, and the infobox wars ] (which takes us back to here) ;) - Sadly, there are real victims, some listed under the monkeys. --] (]) 21:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:*Condo in Jersey, eh? You have to have $7 mill in the bank and agree to pay $170 k in taxes a year for that. Even ] couldn't move there. So that's where all the donations have gone… ] (]) 15:45, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


== You are being discussed here ==
::*Blackmail? Mies is extorting you? How? What vast horrific secret does he know about you? ] (]) 15:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::*Can't tell you, or you'll be extorting me as well. ] (]) 16:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::*No worries Xanty. Just make sure you stick to the payment plan, or you'll be going to the shelter for a new hedgehog as well. ] (]) 17:32, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
* If all editors and administrators were blocked for being annoying, Jimbo would have a lot of work to do on this wiki by hisself because everyone is annoying to someone... I probably annoy more than not myself (yes, I know I do)... — <code class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;]&#125;&#125; <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup></code> 18:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


] ] ] 16:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Editing restrictions ==
Hello, ], <br> *Very exciting, Doug--thanks! ] (]) 19:54, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
** {{tpw}} ] ]!!! ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 20:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
I came across an editor who has a clear editing restriction (she can not create new categories) and not only was it imposed upon her account several years ago but it was reaffirmed two years later. But when I look at ], I find her case isn't listed in the tables. I'd ask the last admin (]) who dealt with the situation about it but he hasn't been active lately.
*** A tremendous amount of truly reprehensible stuff does happen on this talk page. However, in my opinion, none thus far had been quite so egregious as using the word "revenant". That said, I myself understood the word immediately by way of it being the true and accurate translation from the Danish of the title of Ibsen's '']''. -- ] (]) 05:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
****Hey I just learned a new word. ] (]) 16:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
**** Well, {{yo|Softlavender}}, a joke explained is not much of a joke. But what I meant by using the word was precisely a reference to the Danish sense in that the ghost of the quite dead argument had been revived by a (now blocked) user who started the (now closed) discussion. Let us hope for the new year that the argument inappropriately raised from the dead remains in the grave to which it was returned and that no further sticks are raised. Heaven forfend that I should post reprehensible stuff on this hallowed site. ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 14:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
*****Let the dead bury their dead. ] (]) 15:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== ]/] and others ==
I use to come across instances like this before when I was new to editing on a regular basis and I wasn't sure what action to take. The way it is with these cases, the only way any admin or editor would know that an editing restriction exists is if they went searching back into user talk page archives (and not all editors archive their talk pages) or if they had a very good memory. Any advice on what should be done? Thanks! <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 15:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*Typically such restrictions come out of an AN or ANI discussion, so plowing through those archives is helpful. Where was it set up? where was it reaffirmed? ] (]) 17:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:: Oh, I haven't gone through the AN/ANI archives, I just saw notices of the topic ban violations on the user's talk page and in their archives. The editor is ] and I believe that the editing restriction was against creating categories and perhaps creating articles, too. Usually what I see are notes on an editor's talk page with no logging of the topic ban/editing restriction. I guess in future cases, I'll just bring it to the attention of an admin, ideally, the one that imposed the topic ban. <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 18:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::Here are some related links:
:::*{{userlinks|Venustar84}}
:::*{{userlinks|Neptunekh2}}
:::*]
:::There was not a formal community ban of Venustar84 from categories. But it was an admin warning issued by ], to , telling her not to create categories or mainspace articles. Neptunekh2 has been indef blocked as a sock of ], who can be viewed as a successor account. If Venustar84 is still having trouble after all this time, perhaps an indef block should be considered. Editing restrictions have value only for those who are able and willing to follow them. But I haven't researched the latest edits of Venustar84 to see if there is still a competence problem. ] (]) 18:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Interesting. Thank you ]. {{U|Liz}}, what do you think? ] (]) 19:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::: Wow, thank you for doing all of the research, ]! Elen's words sure read like it was a formal editing restriction as Venustar84 received a warning two years later when she violated it and created new categories. She is an active editor and has created new categories recently but they were valid ones, they were not inappropriate. I brought it up to Drmies not because I was soliciting a block but because of my confusion on why editing restrictions like this one, which other admins should be aware of, aren't logged. The burden shouldn't be on the admin imposing a restriction to forever police the editing activities of an editor and, besides that, admins retire! Talk page messages get archived or deleted. This isn't the only time I've seen this occur either.
::::: Perhaps the issue is that this editing restriction wasn't sanctioned by the community and maybe ] only contains those kind of blocks. I think that is a mistake as it is way too easy for these cases to fall through the cracks. And I think it actually makes it more complicated if the editor wants the editing restriction reviewed. <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 21:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


Thought they had given up and taken a new hobby, but nope... Here is this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:67D4:8700:461:2CED:6508:F5E3), for instance continuing with the transfer speculation at ] (and reinserting their ref that "supported" ] winning the title last season by mentioning a ] match!!), duly reverted! Ah, with a completely polite and encyclopedical edit summary, so let's see what their reply will be (because they WILL reinstate their version again!)...
== New proposal ==


pls see ] -- ] (]) 16:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Happy 2025, take care ] (]) 16:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

*An admin should simply assess the consensus ({{U|Begoon}} already asked for it) of the first proposal--surely someone can make sense of it and draw a general conclusion. I'd ask Floquenbeam, who never met a Gordian knot he couldn't cut through. ] (]) 17:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Edit warring started already, please intervene (you or somebody) ASAP! --] (]) 17:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::Meh, I just restored it from the archives as an ongoing mess that had been archived prior to resolution. I've commented again, supporting Moxy's point. I don't personally think the conclusion is too hard, but I utterly endorse your endorsement of Floq as a Gordian knot cutter. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">]&thinsp;]</span> 18:07, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*], ], can you please have a look, given your experience with ]? Thanks, ] (]) 19:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::: I got this same notice from Moxy but I wasn't sure about the appropriateness of voting on ] which seems, more than AN/I, to be the province of administrators. ] 18:28, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
*], I found another one (User:Lazaric12), and removed some of that awful content. Take care old friend! ] (]) 16:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{U|Liz}}, can you remove whatever font size thing there is in your signature that disrupts the line spacing on the page? <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">]&thinsp;]</span> 19:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::::: I don't see any problem and this has never been mentioned before to me. But I'll change to a simple signature in these comments. ] 21:28, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! == == A barnstar for you! ==


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*Haha thanks, {{U|Mz7}}--and I just hit you with a +2! ] (]) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{U|Bbb23}}, happy new year, and how is it that you are thanked more than me??? I thought I was the good cop! ] (]) 15:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
**It's a conspiratorial ploy by the perps to cozy up to the bad cop.--] (]) 16:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
***Shoot I just thanked ] for an edit, and she was already ahead of me. ] (]) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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:::* As explained on my talk, I hope I do more real thank-you than lazy click-thanks ;) - Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). --] (]) 18:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::* My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 09:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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== Mail ==

{{You've got mail}} ] (]) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

== Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey) ==

The article for ] definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. ] (]) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*Happy New Year, {{U|Alansohn}}. I hope there are, and I hope they're grrrreat. That article was a bit excessive. ] (]) 00:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet ==

Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally ''the'' minute I sent this lol. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! ] (]) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. ] (]) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...{{pb}}Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. ] (]) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

== 120.21.0.0/16 ==

Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at ], and there are no deleted contributions. ] (]) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*Hey {{U|Nyttend}}--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. ] (]) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
**Thanks for the response. This response makes sense, and the email was great; thank you. ] (]) 19:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

== Advice needed ==

How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per ], airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*Hmm I disagree: they were warned by multiple editors, and the content is unsourced. I was going to ask about talk page consensus, but there is project-wide consensus... ] (]) 22:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
*:Okay. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 23:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

== Football sock ==

Not college football, but still... See ]. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--] (]) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--] (]) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... ] (]) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--] (]) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? ] (]) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. ] (]) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

==Mail call==
{{ygm}} I stopped e-mailing you long ago, since it always bounced, but perhaps it may be worth trying again? ] &#124; ] 09:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
*YES. I've been so lonely! ] (]) 15:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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== FORDROCKEFELLER1974 ==

See {{UTRS|98810}}. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at ]. What are your thoughts? Note that I have ''not'' looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --] (]) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. ] (]) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, ] (]) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{U|Johnbod}}, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by ]--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and ] isn't very insightful. I see ] is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. ], if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, ] (]) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

== Do you have a second? ==


Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at ] and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. ] (]) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Requesting your involvement in one of our landmark controversies ==


:The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. ] (]) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
, he said, because he can't help himself with silly little plays on words. It looks like the month long article lock on ] has expired with no real changes. I think maybe it might help if someone who isn't counted as being a POV pusher of one "side" or the other were to maybe help out in framing the dispute for either RfC's or mediation. With maybe one exception, I think most of the editors involved would think that you have displayed some knowledge of the subject and try to come across as being as fair as possible. Granted, anyone else who sees this is more than welcome to chime in as well, but I was wondering if you might be willing to at least help frame the dispute so that mediation can be attempted, and, maybe, willing to take part to some degree in the mediation. ] (]) 20:46, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
::Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. ] (]) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. ] (]) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. ] (]) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... ] (]) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. ] (]) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. ] ] 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe, ], but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. ] (]) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't ''hold themselves'' accountable, how can we? ] (]) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Ha, is that a rhetorical question? ] (]) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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IP range block might need an update

Hi Drmies, this post is about the IPv6 range 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:0:0:0:0/64 that you partially blocked for 1 week from editing AN/I. A little less than an hour later, User:Cullen328 actually site-blocked the singular IP in that range 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:6463:27AE:4C80:E87B for a couple of days with no talk page access. Since then, like happens with many IPv6 connections, the user's IP address switched over to 2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:9541:B21:E7F0:1D7F very shortly after, which allowed them to continue posting on that previous IP's talk page in spite of the previous IP's block with no talk page access. Given that this is technically block evasion, I'm thinking maybe the /64 rangeblock should be updated to a full one?

Regards, — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I left a note for Cullen cause I had to run, but I'll go ahead and stop that yapping. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Yeah, sorry Drmies, my wife and I had to pick up some prescriptions (we're 72), go to the hardware store as part of our ongoing battle against the rats, and stop at Target. We just got home. Cullen328 (talk) 02:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
      • I took care of it. Rats? Brrrr. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Yeah they are creepy and filthy and befoul any accessible food, but that's the least of it. They have twice chewed partly through pex fresh water lines in the crawl space under our house, which soaked a lot of insulation too. Very expensive chaos. Second incident discovered today. It's an ongoing debacle and I have a grudge against all rodents at this point. Cullen328 (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
        @Cullen328: Do you routinely distribute rodenticide in key locations? I do so weekly, and the problems are much improved. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
        • Deepfriedokra, we live in a semi-rural area with lots of beneficial wildlife like deer, rabbits and squirrels plus pets like cats and dogs, so pest control professionals prefer to avoid most poisons and rely on traps and repellents instead. There is also the hidden dead rat odor problem. We are going to start a very specialized product called RatX in the next few days. Cullen328 (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Oh Lord, rats are a horrible problem. Hope you can get rid of them. Do you guys have any cats? And I think that having a lot of insects and whatnot in your house is considered something of a way of life, but imo, definitely not true nowadays. My house suffers from a lot of silverfish, and my family has been trying to use boric acid to try and stop them. Strong substance, perhaps, but definitely useful. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I only use the poison in the house- behind stove, fridge, and washing machine. Fortunately they leave before dying. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I use road flares in their burrows outdoors. Close up as many holes as you can find except one, light the road flare and stick it fire side in and cover it up. Carbon monoxide takes care of it. Keeping livestock I have a significant rat population outside that I have to keep in check. As for inside, cats. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          (edit conflict) Like Cullen, we too live in a rural area. Fortunately, we haven't had any rats (one bat, though - and that was horrible), but we do have mice. Don't know if they'll work with larger rodents, but we leave sticky traps for the mice in our garage, and, thus far, that keeps them out of the house, killing them before they can enter.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Is that better than roaches, Bbb23? Drmies (talk) 19:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          You'd think an indoor pit bull would prevent rats. She does not. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Need a ratter, not a big dog. My little lady kills quite a few rats outside. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          Mice are stupid and don't get too trap averse. Much more difficult to trap rats long term. With mice I've found a bucket trap to be very effective. A 5 gallon bucket with a ramp leading to the top. Fill it halfway with water, then cover the water with sunflower seeds. The mice climb up and hop in to get the seeds and can't get out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
          I do think cats make good pets too. They're good at catching mice and rats, as well as defeating snakes. I'm sure the reaction time of a cat is about 20-44 milliseconds compared to a snake which has like 44-70 milliseconds. I also think that cats are the general predator of snakes. But staying on topic, I do feel like it would be best to have a cat as a pet (I certainly don't have a cat, though) for catching rats. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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In 2024 you were one of the top AfC editors, thank you! --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • I was, Ozzie10aaaa?? I had no idea--I think that also shows that it would be good if more people got involved with it. I think the backlog is creeping towards 2,000 again. Anyway, thanks: I appreciate it! Drmies (talk) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Drmies, you probably wouldn't have been if we had an actual full year of data (that data is just from the last month or so). But if you kept up that same pace through the whole year... yeah, maybe you still would be. We truly need all the help we can get. -- asilvering (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please leave your wooden shoes out for him to fill with presents.

Have a good one, Doc, and thanks for filling our wiki-lives with cheer.

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About your block of Ayomikun445

Quack, quack.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

DCAU page

Hi! I'm currently engaged in an edit war with a user who believes that two films released in 2017 and 2019 are canon to an animated universe of TV shows from 1992-2006. I've provided multiple clear as day sources from the people who worked on these that show this isn't the case.

You can read it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:DC_Animated_Universe#Article_Cleanup Walterwhitehartwell (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

With respect to Bai Jingting

Hi, I seen few deletion, need clarity to improve. 1. For Philanthropic activity the source 8th line mentions artist name, need to understand why the source is doubtful. 2. If "features" is wrong vocabulary could it be replaced with other word? As new writer I observed many articles already accepted those details from years. Need to understand how to represent here with proper writing. SakuraSmart (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Not every time someone is mentioned in some competition they're "featured". If someone is featured it means they get a special placement, and there is no evidence at all that this is what is happening here. Yes, it's a buzzword now used for every guest performance and appearance, and we need to fight back, like linguistic warriors. I don't really know what you mean with "source 8th line", but if you're talking about this source, it's pretty obvious to me that that gossipy glossy website is NOT an acceptable, neutral, independent source for BLPs. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the reply. For Philanthropic activity link was used. 8th line suggest artist donation towards natural disaster. It was removed stating doubtful. If we mention actual ranks of few listings, instead of "feature" I hope it's fine provided link attached is not from gossip site and provides enough evidence. SakuraSmart (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
      • What 8th line? I see five lines, and then some weird image that took me 26 clicks on "Page Down" to get through--and then there's comments. Anyway, I see his name is mentioned, along with dozens of others, on a website that at best looks like a gossipy site for fans of entertainers. Whatever that site is, it's not publishing journalism; please see WP:RS. How much did he even give? Or did the record company give a few bucks in his name, to add to his resume? Who knows? Drmies (talk) 02:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Oh you mean the seventh line of that picture with a list of donors--who knows what that picture is, and what its authority is. Again, that's not how we operate here. It's too easy to manipulate pictures, and there's no source or context--"according to incomplete statistics" actually expresses part of the problem well. Drmies (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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User:Pinzunski/User:SukunaZenin and others

Thought they had given up and taken a new hobby, but nope... Here is this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:67D4:8700:461:2CED:6508:F5E3), for instance continuing with the transfer speculation at Francisco Trincão (and reinserting their ref that "supported" Sporting CP winning the title last season by mentioning a S.L. Benfica match!!), duly reverted! Ah, with a completely polite and encyclopedical edit summary, so let's see what their reply will be (because they WILL reinstate their version again!)...

Happy 2025, take care RevampedEditor (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring started already, please intervene (you or somebody) ASAP! --RevampedEditor (talk) 17:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey)

The article for Columbia High School (New Jersey) definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. Alansohn (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. Tarlby 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally the minute I sent this lol. Tarlby 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! Drmies (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" Tarlby 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? Tarlby 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. Drmies (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. Tarlby 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

120.21.0.0/16

Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at Special:Contributions/120.21.0.0/16, and there are no deleted contributions. Nyttend (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Hey Nyttend--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. Drmies (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Advice needed

How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her additions are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? The Banner talk 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Football sock

Not college football, but still... See WP:ANI#Footballnerd2007. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--Bbb23 (talk) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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FORDROCKEFELLER1974

See UTRS appeal #98810. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at User_talk:TTTEMLPBrony. What are your thoughts? Note that I have not looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --Yamla (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. Drmies (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Beeldenstorm

Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Johnbod, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by User:ST47ProxyBot--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Open proxies isn't very insightful. I see User:Malcolmxl5 is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. User:Ponyo, if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a second?

Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at User:54rt678/sandbox and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. BusterD (talk) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. BusterD (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. BusterD (talk) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. BusterD (talk) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd burnt the Packers in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... BusterD (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. Drmies (talk) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. Doug Weller talk 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Maybe, Doug, but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't hold themselves accountable, how can we? BusterD (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Ha, is that a rhetorical question? Drmies (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)