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			== Inaccessible markup ==
	{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis\|age=336\|archiveprefix=User talk:Alakzi/Archive\|numberstart=1\|maxarchsize=300000\|header={{Automatic archive navigator}}\|minkeepthreads=4\|minarchthreads=1\|format= %%i\|archivebox=yes}}

			Found a problem similar to the one you solved a year or so ago with {{tl\|Infobox gridiron football person}}. {{tl\|Infobox AFL biography}} is using inaccessible markup. Would you mind re-writing your script at ] to handle this slightly more complicated fix? The only "new" complication is that now three parameters must be split instead of two, and they don't all use similar parameter names (i.e. clubs vs. sooteams are both "teams" parameters). I copied over your gridiron football person module to ] if you're willing to work on this. If not, I'd appreciate you pinging me so I can seek someone else. ~ <b>]</b><sup>]</sup> 23:46, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
	== Something different: swimming world record template ==
			:Actually, I think I figured it out. Thanks for your past work on the module! ~ <b>]</b><sup>]</sup> 07:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

			== Spread a template ==
	Hey. When you're looking for something entirely different to do, take a look a the different templates employed for this family of articles: ]. The templates are a complete mess, with various built-in dynamic field functions. There should be one template, well-designed, that works well for all of these articles. ] (]) 13:18, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Can you point to some of them? Are you referring to the tables? ] (]) 14:00, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

			I am in the process of creating {{tl\|Edward Elgar}}, and added it already to his article. It should go also to the linked articles. Do we have a bot to do that? Could there be one? It would have to check if the template is already there, and if not insert it before any other navbox, before categories and other things that don't show on the screen, after external links, or references, or whatever is last. --] (]) 14:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
	* ]
			:{{Ping\|Gerda Arendt}} Sounds like a job for someone with ]; try asking at ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:46, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
	* ]
			:: Thank you, I will, --] (]) 14:49, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
	* ]
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			== Rename Request denied ==
	Just for fun, some of these articles use the templates, some use wikitables, and some use a mix on the same page. ] (]) 16:39, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
	: For the record, I did take a look at these, but the conversion is quite tedious, so I've been putting it off. ] (]) 12:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

			Request for the rename has been declined per ]: "Please keep in mind this is your last change of name. We are not here to make all your whims.". Thank you. — regards, ] 15:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
	:: Trust me: I know they're a mess. I didn't expect you to jump in and fix them, or create a simplified replacement overnight. I really wanted you to get a feel for what a mess they are, identify the specific problems, start contemplating ideas for how to replace them with a more logical, simplified replacement, and then discuss. Whatever we do, it's going to require a lot of manual editing to replace the existing templates (and wiki tables where used), so I want to get your best answer on the first attempt. You're not a sports guy, but you are organized and logical, so you're a good guinea pig to see if the replacement is easily intelligible to general readers, not swimming/sports fans. Of course, I am also looking for the most elegant coding solution, too.
			: Never before in my life was I insulted as much as I've been insulted in a little less than two years on Misplaced Pages. What a horrible place. ] (]) 16:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
			:: And there was absolutely no reason to post this in public; as you must be well aware, the rejection reason was emailed to me in private. Clearly, you've an axe to grind with me or a bone to pick or whatever. ] (])
			]
			{{-}}
			:::...and rightly so! (referring to the image caption)  <small>'']''</small> ''''']'''''  <small>03:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)</small>

			== 16 July 2016 recommended reading ==
	:: These templates originally had a dynamic field built into them for the swim meet locations that (a) forced you to use the three-character country codes, (b) rendered a flag icon and linked country name for every location contrary to several MOS provisions (I mean, how many times does the United States need to be linked in the same article?), and (c) rendered an ugly display error if you left the location fields blank or tried to replace the country code in favor of linked or unlinked text. Earlier, I had Frietjes perform some surgery on them just to get rid of the redundant flag icons for meet locations.

			{{user QAIbox
	:: As far as I know, there are a maximum of 21 world record progression articles for specific swimming events which should be using these templates. There may be, however, other uses of the templates of which I am unaware -- I need to check the template transclusions counter. ] (]) 12:33, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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	::: OK. Are there particular aspects of {{tl\|Swimmingrecord}} you're dissatisfied with? The reason we're stuck with a parameter for every tiny thing is for column sorting to work properly. I could investigate whether some parameters could be shed or combined for ease of use. The repetition of flags and wikilinks is unfortunate, but we could probably tolerate that in a table. The templates are also used in athlete articles, where some columns are hidden - see ]. ] (]) 14:40, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
			\| image = Reger, Zwei Gesänge, Op. 144.jpg
	:::: Well, that raises a very good question: Do these records need to be sortable? They are already in chronological order, and record times are descending. If a reader wants to find a particular swimmer, they can do that faster with their browser's keyword search function -- the date sort function only sorts to the series beginning in chronological order or the series ending in reverse chronological order; likewise the last name sort function only sorts to names beginning with A in alphabetical order, or to names beginning with Z in reverse alphabetical order. Sorting by swim meet location or event (presumably in alpha or reverse alpha order) is also not terribly useful, either. As the title suggests, these tables are most useful to illustrate the progression of the declining times of new world records over the last 90 to 100 years. I say we ditch the sortability functions for every data column -- would that simplify your possible coding solutions? ] (]) 15:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
			\| image_upright = 0.4
	::::: If we ditch sorting, there's hardly any reason for these templates to exist - that is, beyond enforcing a set number of columns. I agree that we probably don't need all of the sorting possibilities of {{tl\|Swimmingrecord}}, but I imagine that's something you're gonna want to discuss with contributors to swimming lists. If it takes so much effort to accomplish something so primitive, it might be better to look for alternatives. ] (]) 15:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
			\| bold = ]
	:::::: Well, the templates do provide (1) a structure and (2) a measure of uniformity, which is not unimportant. The template creator has not edited in three years, and the current biggest consumer is a German editor who is grinding out incomplete national record sets for African countries (the least competitive region in world swimming). But my new favorite is the List of Burmese national records in swimming, which -- ''surprise!'' -- has a Myanmar/Burmese flag for every Burmese national record in swimming. LOL Given that something like 400 articles appear to be using these templates, ditching them and starting over does not seem to be a realistic option, inasmuch as every article includes multiple uses of the templates. I'm going to think on this some more; when you get bored with whatever else your working on, contemplate your ideal template solution (minus the unnecessary sort functions) for these tables. I can see now why someone just gave up and formatted several of the world record progression articles with wikitable coding: it was simpler. ] (]) 15:44, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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	== Mean people suck ==

	So, don't play with them: . I've taken Ched's talk page off my watch list until that group are done shouting at each other. You might try it, too. Just a thought. ] (]) 01:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

	: Lawyer, consider the header. Firstly, it's self evident. Secondly, who are the mean people, by implication. If I appear on said page (I commented on it and don't know if it was archived already), am I in that group? Thirdly, if you try to mediate, would you listen to "don't play"? - Ched was the first person here who helped me in a crisis (To leave or not to leave, that was the question), - I will keep watching, {{diff\|User talk:Bishonen\|651105697\|651105601\|declared nurse}} that I am ;) --] (]) 07:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

	::Selig sind die Friedfertigen; denn sie werden Gottes Kinder heißen. You are not a mean person, Gerda; in point of fact, in my personal experience, you are a very kind person. Taking sides on a user talk page, in the midst of some long-running feud about reliable sources in a Feature Article about the Boy Scouts founder Robert Baden-Powell, is not peace-making. Frankly, based on the level of invective exchanged there, I think we can safely assume that this animosity between two long-time editors did not start at the Baden-Powell article, and, sadly, probably won't end there, either. Sometimes, grown-ups just have to work things out amongst themselves, and if they can't, then they must live with the consequences. Takings sides in such a dispute, as several would-be Friedfertigen have done, only fans the flames. Alakzi takes these things too much to heart, when he probably should do his best to avoid being drawn in. My comment above was the short version. Prost! ] (]) 08:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

	::: Thank you. I believe that Ched is not mean, SandyGeorgia is not mean ({{diff\|User talk:JNW\|662447987\|662397476\|see}}?), ... - a bit shortened too much. - I manage ARCA without lawyer's assistance, but it takes a lot of Friedfertigkeit to ignore the terms I inherited from Andy, - Alakzi, you know the tune of that song ;) - IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE was an email by a sadly missed friend for whom I wrote ]. - Seriously: WE ARE the outcasts, I told you. Some even ]. (I added the image that one of us took in memory of another.) - "Hope" is the first word in a comment kept on my talk, and I added the wonderful lyrics of the first piece I ever performed in choir - age 12 - yesterday: "Graceful, charming and sweet". --] (]) 09:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::: I don't believe that there are mean and not-mean people; I believe that there are people who hold different ideals, and who lose sight of the big picture in their effort to put those ideals into practice. I've yet to see anybody who's mean to ''everybody'' else. We've all got our times when we behave less than ideally. Nonetheless, the apparent frequency of these confrontations might lead one to postulate a systemic underlying cause. ] (]) 14:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::: Follow the link to "not to miss" for long history in short, - and perhaps be bold and change the header here? --] (]) 14:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::::: I've read the page, but I don't feel like I should comment on things that happened before my time. I'll leave it to Dirtlawyer to change the title. ] (]) 15:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::::: No comment needed, only understanding for the background. I commented out the ], but it's never far, --] (]) 20:08, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::: ps: I read it myself and had forgotten that wrote I the line "Sadness and pain are not measurable." - Feel better today, I must say. --] (]) 14:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

	: Alakzi, I like talking to you, remember? Everything you said refreshed me, - sorry if it didn't feel as positive for you. - I even have a new job, about listings of the parts of a composition, see ], - more later, - I woke up with an idea, but homework and RL first, --] (]) 07:39, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Unfortunately for me, Gerda, I tend to be left out to dry; defending yourself will - without exception - only work against you. One editor has even gone as far as to suggest I shouldn't be a TE, ]. ] (]) 10:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::]. (With apologies to WSC.) ] (]) 11:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
	::: (ec) I don't defend myself, ever, nor should you. This is about a new template, - you have to deal only with me ;) - I pinged you on ], and so far it's only brainstorming, lawyers welcome, --] (]) 11:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Hi ==

	Just wanted to say thank-you for your efforts. There really are some great people on wiki. Don't let the unpleasant folks get you down - just ignore the BS per ]. I've got some things I hope to do, but maybe by late July I can work with you on an article if you'd like. Don't give up. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 05:41, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Cheers Ched - look forward to working with you. ] (]) 11:00, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Nomination for merging of ] ==
	]] has been ] with ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ]. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfmnotice--> ] (] \| ]) <small>Use <span class="nowrap">{{]\|Jc86035}}</span> to reply to me</small> 07:32, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

	== An apology ==
	{{sidebar
	\| name = I apologize
	\| title = I apologize
	\| class = plainlist
	\| style = width: auto; background-color: #f5faff;
	\| titlestyle = padding-top: 0.2em; font-size: 95%;

	\| content1 =
	*
	}}		}}
			... on a centenary of a performance, - and thank you for help with the template used in the recording section, --] (]) 14:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

			== Shy guy ==
	Hi, Alakzi. I am here to not only thank you for your effort to help, but apologize for two things: snapping your head off (unnecessarily), and taking so long to come over and apologize.<p> I recognize and appreciate that your intervention there was not only well meaning and well intended, but also that you had thoroughly investigated and accurately reported what happened. But instead of thanking you for that, I bit your head off, and for that I am sincerely sorry. The reason I've taken so long to respond is that I did not want to re-stir the pot because I was still holding out hope that just once, if others would stay out of the matter, Ched and I could get to the bottom of it ourselves and that then the behavior would stop. I see today that is not going to happen, and regret that my apology to you is long overdue.<p> I can see how trying to help and having your head bitten off was/is very painful and discouraging; I am so sorry for that.<p> Here is how I might have better handled that situation and what my response coulda/shoulda been:<p>
	:* Thank you, Alakzi, for taking the time and good-faith effort to investigate the situation and come over here to try to help smooth ruffled feathers and advance understanding. The problem, though, is that these specific behaviors, demonstrated so clearly in this example, have been going on now ''for years'', and you can't be aware of the full background. Ched and Co. follow me to areas in which I work and where they don't even evidence familiarity with the processes, only to dig up an old grudge ''they bear'', and to comment on the contributor rather than content no matter that I don't do that and no matter what I say or how right I may be about the ''content'' matter. <p>Because it has been seemingly impossible to get this behavior to stop, if you don't mind, it might be helpful at this point if other editors would stay out and let Ched and me try to resolve it ourselves. I think that past intervention of other editors has prevented Ched from owning and addressing the issue. Thank you again for trying, but I'd rather hear from Ched this time, because this has gone on for much too long, and when others intercede, it seems he is never held accountable.
	So, that is what I could have said that would have gotten the same message across without being so hurtful to you. I am so sorry, and hope you are not discouraged as a result of this dreadful experience, at my hands. Best regards, ] (]) 15:19, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Thank you, Sandy, I appreciate this a lot. I'm sorry to hear that you've not been able to resolve your differences with Ched for so long, and I'm sorry for not realising the true extent of the dispute. ] (]) 16:23, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: And thank you for the gracious acceptance of my apology. I am a bit of a Pollyanna at heart and never give up hope that differences can be resolved, and that leads to even more discomfort when they are not. I suspect-- given your attempts to help-- you have a good bit of that in your character as well, and I know how this incident must have hurt. Best, ] (]) 16:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

			A year ago you extended the {{t\|shy}} syntax per a discussion on my talk page. I just wanted to thank you again for that (even though I'm probably the only one who uses it). ''']]''' 16:32, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
	== Oops ==

			== Precious anniversary ==
	I guess I should check my spelling before changing templates. I screwed up, I'm sorry. <span style="font-family:Oswald, sans-serif;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px #69b3e7;color:#fd0;">]] \| <sup>]</sup></span> 00:37, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
	: No need to apologise, True - we all make mistakes. Have a good evening. ] (]) 00:39, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

			{{User QAIbox
	== IETF language tag ==
			\| title = A year ago ...

			\| image = Cornflower blue Yogo sapphire.jpg
	Hi Alakzi. You removed the ] I had added to ]. I added the tag so a code could be added for articles such as ]. Austrian German can only be identified by its IETF language tag de-AT. It has no ISO language code of its own, being the national variety of the German language (] de) that is used in Austria (] AT). The corresponding article on the German wikipedia, ], shows the IETF language tag in the infobox.
			\| image_upright = 0.5

			\| bold = "put more emphasis<br /> on her achievement"
	Other articles that would benefit from the IETF language tag include ], ], or ], ]. All these articles on language varieties currently lack their language code, even though that code – the IETF language tags en-US, fr-CA, and pt-BR respectively – exists and is being used by countless people. I think all these articles would greatly benefit if the language infobox showed their code. I intend to add it again (unless you convince me otherwise). --] ] 00:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
			\| normal = ... you were recipient<br /> no. ''']''' of ],<br /> a prize of QAI!
	: Hi mach. I'm sceptical about the IETF language tag being a ], but if nobody else objects, I won't either. Thanks for the explanation. ] (]) 01:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
	::Is any of the codes a key fact? In any case, I have taken the discussion to ] so others may voice their objections, if any. I apologize I didn’t do so in the first place. --] ] 01:14, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Small favor ==

	Can you slap a friendly "welcome to Misplaced Pages" template on this guy's talk page: ]? He's made a handful of edits since late 2014, and I just had to revert several with an explanation on his talk page. It would be nice if someone left a non-corrective message for him. If we treat the newbies right, we may catch a couple of keepers. {{smiley}} ] (]) 02:52, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Of course; I've offered them some <del>cookies</del> biscuits. ;-) ] (]) 02:55, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Thanks -- all is happy in the valley. We might even get a convert out of him -- WP:SWIMMING needs to replenish its ranks. I hate when the first communication with a newbie is a corrective message; that can be a real turnoff for potentially productive new editors. ] (]) 03:00, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	When you closed ], I thought you had considered the page move. However, it seems that there are now a bunch of page moves and template alterations based on a different interpretation of the results.--] <small>(] / ] / ] / ] / ])</small> 16:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Hi Tony. No, I did not take into account alternative outcomes. Any such move or alternation is not supported by my closure nor is it prevented by it. ] (]) 16:12, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Editnotice edit requests ==

	Rather than faffing around with individual edit requests for each one, can you make that same edit from {{tag\|tt}} into {{tl\|mono}} on:
	*]
	*]
	*]
	*]
	*] (two on here)
	*] (two here as well)
	::Thanks! ''']'''<sup><small>(])</small></sup> 18:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Done - thanks for digging these up. ] (]) 18:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Athenry railway station ==

	Instead of blindly hitting the {{keypress\|Revert}} button, why didn't you actually look at the edit? If you notice, there was already a mixture of <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{stnlnk\|Xxx}}</nowiki></code> in the body of the article. Also, the ] was renamed (from a redirect) and moved to the standard position in station articles (immediately following the Infobox). And let’s not get started on {{tl\|IERail start}}. Besides the obvious that it should be merged into the standard {{tl\|S-line}} — now there’s something useful for you to do — hard-coded colour values were replaced with calls to {{tl\|IrishRail Color}}.<br/><s>And just for good measure, so nobody can say that I didn’t give fair warning:<br/>] You may be '''] without further warning''' the next time you ] Misplaced Pages, as you did at ]. <!-- Template:uw-generic4 --></s><br/>] (]) 14:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	:PS: Also replaced <code><nowiki><small>…</small></nowiki></code> with <code><nowiki>{{small\|…}}</nowiki></code> in the succession box. ] (]) 14:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Hi Useddenim. I did look at your edit; I did not object to those other changes, so you could've reinstated them. Don't post bogus template-d warnings on my talk page, even if you're going to strike them out. ] (]) 14:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

	== template islam ==

	read the names in template documentation, they are copied from Shia template and these names are Wrong..that's it! Stop protecting an incorrectly prepared template
	] (]) 21:42, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Fixed. ] (]) 21:49, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

	=== ] ===
	This is NOT a denomination but theology school!! It's incorrectly placed.. Then where are ] & ]? ] is something like ], ], and ].
	] (]) 22:18, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	: I've practically got no knowledge of Islam; the first I touched the template was when I responded to your edit request, which concerned a technical aspect of it. Please contact somebody who edits Islam articles regularly. Looking at the page history, {{u\|Dougweller}} might be able to help. ] (]) 22:37, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

	===Hide-Show Option===
	This switch is missing:

	<nowiki><!--NEEDS the following

	<includeonly>{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
	\| name = Islam
	\| bodyclass = collapsible {{#if:{{{collapsed\|}}}\|collapsed}}
	\| titlestyle = font-size:88%; line-height:200%;
	\| title = ] {{resize\|115%\|{{nobold\|Part of ] on ]}}}}
	<br />{{resize\|165%\|]}}

	--></nowiki>
	] (]) 22:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	: It defaults to collapsed; you can use {{tlx\|Islam\|2=expanded=all}} to the same effect. ] (]) 22:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

	But the following form
	<nowiki><!-- {{Islam\|collapsed=1}} --></nowiki>
	is not working..
	All template should collapse if you introduce the following:
	<nowiki><!--

	<includeonly>{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
	\| name = Islam
	\| bodyclass = collapsible {{#if:{{{collapsed\|}}}\|collapsed}}
	\| titlestyle = font-size:88%; line-height:200%;
	\| title = ] {{resize\|115%\|{{nobold\|Part of ] on ]}}}}

	--></nowiki>
	on top Like '''Sunnni, Shia, Ismaili templates'''.
	] (]) 22:41, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Right, but if I do what you ask, the template will default to expanded, which other people might object to. ] (]) 22:45, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

	*No that's not right, you can compare with '''Sunnni Islam, Shia Islam, Ismailism, and Druze Templates''' They work well
	] (]) 22:48, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Oh I see, it's a separate setting to collapse the sidebar in its entirety. Unfortunately, I'd have to move the headline below the title and alter the style in various other ways for it to work - which I don't really feel like doing right now. If you make these changes in the ], I'll take a look. ] (]) 22:54, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
	=====Examples of collapsed=1 OPTION =====
	<nowiki>{{Sunni Islam\|collapsed=1}}
	{{Shia Islam\|collapsed=1}}
	{{Ismailism\|collapsed=1}}
	{{Druze\|collapsed=1}}
	{{Alevism\|collapsed=1}}</nowiki>

	See it works fine ] (]) 23:06, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

	=== ISLAM TEMPLATE with SHOW/HIDE options & * ] deleted ===
	The following should work well in your template:Islam, sand box too does not allow any changes..So I put it here for your trial
	{{Collapse top}}
	<nowiki><includeonly>{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
	\| name = Islam
	\| bodyclass = collapsible {{#if:{{{collapsed\|}}}\|collapsed}}
	\| titlestyle = font-size:88%; line-height:200%;
	\| title = ] {{resize\|115%\|{{nobold\|Part of ] on}}}}<br />{{resize\|200%\|]}}
	\| image = ]
	\| expanded = {{{expanded\|{{{selected\|{{{1\|}}}}}}}}}

	\| contentclass = hlist

	\| list1name = beliefs
	\| list1title = ]
	\| list1 = {{startflatlist}}
	* ] {{small\|of}} ]
	{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}

	\| list2name = practices
	\| list2title = ]
	\| list2 = {{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}

	\| list3name = texts
	\| list3title = ] and ]
	\| list3 = {{startflatlist}}
	* '']''
	* '']''
	* '']''
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}

	\| list4name = history
	\| list4title = ]
	\| list4 = {{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{startflatlist}}
	* '']''
	* '']''
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* '']''
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}

	\| list5name = denominations
	\| list5title = ]
	\| list5 = {{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}

	\| list6name = culture
	\| list6title = ] and ]
	\| list6 = {{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
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	* ]
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	{{endflatlist}}{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
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	{{endflatlist}}

	\| list7name = related
	\| list7title = ]
	\| list7 = {{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{startflatlist}}
	* ]
	* ]
	{{endflatlist}}
	* ]

	\| below =
	* {{portal-inline\|Islam\|size=tiny}}

	}}</includeonly><noinclude>
	{{Documentation
	\| content = {{Islam\|all}}
	{{Collapsible lists option
	\| listnames = beliefs; practices; texts; history; denominations; culture; related
	\| example = practices
	}}
	}}		}}
			--] (]) 09:54, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

			Two years now, and missed, {{diff\|User talk:Opabinia regalis\|793351994\|793351835\|see}}? --] (]) 05:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
	]
	]
	]
	}}
	</noinclude></nowiki>
	{{Collapse bottom}}
	] (]) 00:27, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
	: OK, but is there any actual need for this? I don't see the benefit in obscuring the sidebar almost completely. ] (]) 01:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
	:Answer: First, Some of the old articles had this template placed in '''collapsed=1-frorm''' because of the topic ''Islam'' was of secondary importance, and second reason: some of the articles are too short it occupies a lot of space if you put in the current form. i.e. the hide-switch is necessary..] (]) 18:05, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Could you look at the page ]. There are 2 templates of secondary importance in '''collapsed-form''' since the page does not have enough space..
	::: Nobody had answered my inquiry about ], yet.] (]) 17:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::Another example about the '''collapsed-form''' is ''']'''. ] (]) 18:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Chinese ==
	]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> ] (] • ]) <small>Use <span class="nowrap">{{]\|Jc86035}}</span> to reply to me</small> 10:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Alleged TfD outcome ==

	Could you please explain how did you judge ] to be complete for the Multihull and Trimaran templates? It appears there was significant resistance to the idea of removing them and only one person vocally against their existence. A lot of my hard work is now deleted, I am truly saddened and demotivated. ] (]) 15:41, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	:Actually, Prat, the idea is to convert your navbox to a list in article space, thereby preserving your work in a different and more appropriate format. ] (]) 15:53, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	::Actually, your single voice is getting tiring in that echo-chamber, and you clearly have no idea about the topic area. Why don't you stick to your 1000s of other articles instead of deleting people's hard work? It destroys the community and the spirit of Misplaced Pages. Have fun with your deletion spree, I quit editing in protest. ] (]) 16:01, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	: There was sufficient and justified opposition to the over-broad infobox to merit its conversion to a list. Your work is not lost; it can be found in the new list and the template history. I'd be happy to help with the creation of navboxes with a narrower scope; however, people hadn't been receiving to your suggestions at the TfD, so I couldn't have reasonably closed it as a ''split''. I hope this helps. ] (]) 16:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	::Sounds a lot like an unwarranted judgement call with basically no evidence to me, followed by an edit rampage. Anyway, I have no time for this crap anymore. Do you have ''any idea'' how much of a hassle it will be to re-add all that stuff you removed to every damn multihull and trimaran page??? As if I am going to bother with that muck after going through a damn deletion review! Have fun mucking with other people's hard work and contributions, the reality is '''your recent uncalled for actions have ensured frequent and numerous real contributions have now been lost'''. This community is destroying itself due to the actions of people like you. ''FEEL PROUD''. ] (]) 16:25, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::{{Ping\|Pratyeka}} There's little point moaning here; if you're not happy with the close, raise the matter at ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:31, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Infobox substitution ==
	=== Infobox tornado ===

	{{Tl\|Infobox tornado}} is now ready for substitution. I can run AWB, but not write code. If you'd like to supply me with the necessary, and some instructions, I can do the job; or feel free to do so yourself ;-) <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:52, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Likewise {{tl\|Infobox tornado outbreak}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:06, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Done both, except for userspace transclusions. ] (]) 19:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::Thank you. Also {{tl\|Infobox Canadian school district}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:45, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::And {{tl\|Infobox education in Canada}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:15, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::: Education in Canada has got 1,650 transclusions; I'll do district. ] (]) 21:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::::: {{ping\|Pigsonthewing\|label1=Andy}} We're missing {{para\|additionalname}} - was that intentional? ] (]) 13:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

	Some fixes for {{tl\|Infobox storm}} are needed, as shown at ] which currently lists 21 articles which look as if they have a problem with the change. Take ] for example. That changed the first of the following lines to the second:
	<pre>
	\|wind = 121 mph (194 km/h)<br /><small>(at ])</small>
	\| highest winds = 121 mph (194 km/h)<br /><small>(at ])</small>
	</pre>
	The problem is that the old infobox allowed free-form text, but the new infobox requires a number representing the speed in km/h and ''nothing'' else (because the number is passed to {{tl\|convert}}). I could fix them, but I would omit the extra information—perhaps someone with knowledge of the topic should take a look and decide what should be done. I'm reporting this here because you might know the background about the change, and could let the people involved know. Otherwise, I guess I should mention it at ]. ] (]) 06:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	: {{ping\|Johnuniq}} I've ''cough'' "fixed" it with ] until we can think of something better. By the way, I did not make the infobox conversion. ] (]) 10:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	::Yikes, I know you're not responsible for the syntax rules for templates either, but seeing stuff like that reminds me why Lua is better! Thanks—I did a purge to empty the convert error category which keeps me happy. I'll post at the wikiproject to let people know that edits are needed. ] (]) 11:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

	=== Infobox country at games ===
	* {{Tl\|Infobox Country Pan American Games}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 17:52, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	** That ''was'' done, but we have an edit-warrior there, who thinks their project owns the template. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:27, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	* {{tl\|Infobox Country at the Universiade}}; but what's the problem at ]? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	** It fails on attempting to calculate the sum of blank parameters. ] (]) 18:15, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	***Can that be fixed? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:26, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	**** Fixed with ] edit. ] (]) 18:28, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	***** Thank you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	* {{Tl\|Infobox Country Asian Para Games}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	* {{Tl\|Infobox Country All-Africa Games}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:51, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	**All templates should not be merged until all issues are worked out first. Is this too hard to ask for? ] (]) 18:58, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	***It's very hard to work out all the issues, when someone keeps reverting to the deprecated version of the tempaltes. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	**** Can we keep this conversation in one place? I've visited four different user talk pages. ] (]) 19:04, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	*****You've missed a few... :-( <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:12, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	****** Upon further investigation, these infoboxes are not ''quite'' ready for substitution. In the unlikely scenario that I become motivated, I'll untangle the code of {{tl\|Infobox country at games}}. But the more I see, the more I shake my head in disbelief. ] (]) 22:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	*******Why not? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	******** The parameters don't match one-to-one and we're missing a couple, as in the case of American games. For example, the American games {{para\|website}} is used as follows: <nowiki></nowiki>; it would probably best be converted to <nowiki>{{{{\|safesubst:}}}#if:{{{website\|}}}\|{{URL\|{{{website\|}}}}}}}</nowiki>.
	*********Please be more specific. Which parameters are missing, from where? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	********** I retract that; I've taken another look, and, though seven parameters hadn't been copied in ], they're either redundant to existing ones or plain useless. (However, we should probably accommodate {{para\|PAGappearances}} in some manner.) Besides {{para\|website}}, the only other thing that needs to be catered for is the location switch. ] (]) 12:09, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	*********** OK, I think I've taken care of the aforementioned parameters, and apologies for jumping the gun earlier. Can you confirm by substituting a couple of the Pan American Games infoboxes? ] (]) 15:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	*********** {{ping\|Sportsfan 1234}} You too. ] (]) 16:02, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	************ {{ping\|Pigsonthewing\|label1=Andy}} I've added some finishing touches to the other two as well, so I'll go ahead with substituting them. ] (]) 21:13, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	**** There must've been a reason I didn't add it back then, but I don't remember what that was. Maybe I should take notes. ] (]) 21:07, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	*Expression error: Unrecognized word "g". I get this when I input flagbearer. Competitors, flagbearer and medals still do not link to the respective articles. Finally the summary is not shown beside Pan American Games appearances. ] (]) 23:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	** Where does this occur? ] (]) 23:28, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	***On the flagbearer option. I tried this on ]. Also is it possible to bold the IOC code, and remove the brackets for the in sports. ] (]) 23:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	**** It works for me. You might've been trying it with {{para\|gold}}. Yes, it is possible. ] (]) 23:36, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	*****Sorry it works for me now as well. When do you think you can get the other cosmetic fixes done? Thanks! ] (]) 23:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	****** {{ping\|Sportsfan 1234}} Which other ones? In the meantime, I've put the summary links back. ] (]) 23:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
	:Linking the three items from above. ] (]) 03:03, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: I've done medals, but, as I've said elsewhere, I don't believe the other two to be necessary. ] (]) 03:24, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::The Olympic Infobox connects to both, so should these events. ] (]) 03:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::: I'll add the flag bearer link if there are no objections, but the competitors category link is taking too far; the infobox is fast becoming a link soup. {{ping\|Dirtlawyer1}} Thoughts on this? ] (]) 03:36, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	::::: What are the specific questions, Alakzi? ] (]) 04:20, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	{{Od}} {{ping\|Dirtlawyer1}} In converting {{tl\|Infobox Country Pan American Games}} to use {{tl\|Infobox country at games}}, I've got rid of the competitors category and flag bearer links. To illustrate:
	{\|
	\|-
	! Before
	! After
	\|-
	\| <table class="infobox vcard" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:left; border-collapse:collapse; line-height:1.4em; font-size:90%; width:25em;">
	<tr class="adr">
	<th colspan=5 style="text-align:center; font-size:1.25em; border-bottom:1px solid #aaa;"><span class="fn org country-name">Argentina</span> at the Pan American Games</th>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan=5 align=center style="border-bottom:1px solid #aaa;">
	<table width="100%" style="text-align:left; background-color:#f9f9f9;">
	<tr><td colspan=2 align=center style="padding-bottom:1em;">
	]<br/>]</td></tr>
	<tr><th width=21% style="vertical-align:middle; text-align:left;">] </th>
	<td><span style="font-size:140%">'''ARG'''</span></td></tr>

	<tr class="agent vcard"><th style="vertical-align:top; text-align:left;">]</th>
	<td class="fn org">{{Illm\|Comité Olímpico Argentino\|es\|Comité Olímpico Argentino}}</td></tr>
	</table></td></tr>
	<tr style="border-top: 1px solid #aaa;">
	<th colspan=5 style="text-align:center;">At the ''']''' in ]</th>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<th>]</th>
	<td colspan=4>486 in 37 sports</td>
	</tr>

	<tr>
	<th>]</th>
	<td colspan=4>]</td>
	</tr>
	<tr style="vertical-align:middle;">
	<td style="vertical-align:middle; width:auto;">''']'''<br>]: 7</td>
	<td style="background:gold; width:4em; text-align:center;">'''Gold'''<br><span style="font-size:125%;">21</span></td>
	<td style="background:silver; width:4em; text-align:center;">'''Silver'''<br><span style="font-size:125%;">19</span></td>
	<td style="background:#cc9966; width:4em; text-align:center;">'''Bronze'''<br><span style="font-size:125%;">35</span></td>
	<td style="width:4em; text-align:center; border-top:1px solid #aaa">'''Total'''<br><span style="font-size:125%;">{{ #expr: 21 + 19 + 35 }}</span></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan=5 style="border-top:1px solid #aaa; text-align:center;">'''Pan American Games history''' <!--
	--><!--
	-->'']''<!--
	-->
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<th colspan=5 style="text-align:left;">''']'''</th>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan=5 class="hlist" style="text-align:left; padding-left:1em;">
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	</td>
	</tr>

	</table>
	\| {{Infobox country at games
	\| NOC = ARG
	\| NOCname = {{Illm\|Comité Olímpico Argentino\|es\|Comité Olímpico Argentino}}
	\| oldcode =
	\| year = 2011
	\| date = 14–30 October 2011
	\| games = Pan American Games
	\| location = ]
	\| competitors = 486
	\| sports = 37
	\| flagbearer = ]
	\| officials =
	\| gold = 21
	\| silver = 19
	\| bronze = 35
	\| rank = 7
	\| appearances = * ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	* ]
	\| seealso =
	\| website =
	}}
	\|}
	Which do you prefer? ] (]) 10:40, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:I prefer the second for several reasons: (1) the two-line header looks better ("the" may be unnecessary in header); (2) labeling the flag with a caption is unnecessary; (3) the data field label links are unnecessary (you can probably ditch the "medals" label link, too); (4) the dates of the event is a good addition; (5) "Appearances" label is redundant; (6) no reason to state the names of the games twice (that's the purpose of the infobox header).

	:Other suggestions: (1) "Summary" does not need to be italicized; (2) I think "history" is better than "appearances," and it's shorter; (3) the games location should probably include the country as well as the city; (4) define the exterior boundary of the medals table with the same tool line used as its internal divider; (5) the medals table might look better if only the number cells were colored.

	:That's a really ''big'' flag -- not quite sure what to do with it from a design standpoint. There's got to be a better, less ostentatious way to use the national flag in these infoboxes. ] (]) 11:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Thanks, Dirtlawyer1. (1) I've removed the italics. (2) I think that "appearances" is less ambiguous; "history" might be confused with the history of the games. (3) Don't we usually refer to games only by their city? Somewhat unintuitively, the link points to the games article, where the country is specified. I'll give (4) and (5) some thought. I agree about the flag; I'll see if there's anything that can be done. ] (]) 12:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:::Should in be inserted before the city? Also you never addressed why the Olympics infobox is allowed to link to competitors and flagbearers, while this one cannot. They link to these articles for a reason, because it lists all the countries in one page (something you cannot do while just on one country page). ] (]) 23:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

	=== Infobox nhsc ===
	* {{Tl\|Infobox nhsc}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:00, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	** There was already a wrapper of this one in the sandbox. What are the new year/event parameters for? ] (]) 20:03, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
	***I just copied them from the original (parameter number 17 & 19). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:46, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

	== Infobox Greek Dimos ==

	Hi, I saw you converted the {{tl\|Infobox Greek Dimos}} into a wrapper for Infobox settlement. I noticed some issues:
	*pop_community and area_community aren't displayed. I tried to find a quick workaround, but Infobox settlement doesn't support a third population_blank field.
	*<s>a map box (show/hide) is shown below the pushpin map, also if the image_map field is empty</s> Solved this one myself, see ]

	See ] and ] for example. Do you have ideas how to fix this? ] <sup>]</sup> 15:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Is the community population (and area) not mutually exclusive to the municipal unit's? Presumably, no article uses both. ] (]) 17:16, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	::A community is a subdivision of a municipal unit. If they have the same name, which is the case for ], ], ], ], ], ] and many more, the articles give data for both administrative units. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:06, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	::: I know that it's its subdivision, but I'd not considered the possibility that we'd be presenting both in the same article. It might be better to revert to an earlier version; I've not got time to look into this now. ] (]) 18:12, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

	:::: OK. I made a temporary fix, (mis)using the demographics fields, but I think the nicest way would be adding population_blank3 and area_blank3 fields to Infobox settlement. I don't think I can edit the (sandbox of) Infobox settlement without creating a total mess, maybe I'll post something on the talk page about this problem. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:05, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

	==Countries : Kosovo and Northern Cyprus ==
	Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Countries_in_Europe (Kosovo is listed here). You removed the Category from Northern Cyprus by saying "Upon further inspection, disputed territories do not use any of the country categories, so I'm removing all of them". Is Kosovo not disputed acc. to you? Did you miss Kosovo during your inspection?] (]) 19:48, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	: I did not; ] is not in that category. ] (]) 19:52, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Hımmm, Ohh I see now. "Category:Kosovo" is in "Category:Countries in Europe", but "Kosovo" is not in "Category:Countries in Europe". So, do you have any objection to "Category:Northern Cyprus" to be in "Category:Countries in Europe"? If not, I wanna put it there just as Kosovo's example. Sorry, for my misunderstanding. Without clicking "Category:Kosovo" in "Category:Countries in Europe", I did not notice that "Kosovo" is not really there.] (]) 20:02, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
	::: As you please. ] (]) 20:45, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

			]
	== No consensus closes against vast majorities ==
			Three years and missed --] (]) 20:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

			], in case you ever look --] (]) 20:27, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
	Can you explain why you closed ], ] and ] as no consensus? They seemed to have consensus to keep.--] <small>(] / ] / ] / ] / ])</small> 05:08, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	: I did not feel that a (]) consensus had been established, as (a) the nomination rationale had not been effectively rebutted, (b) the !votes did not appear to be especially informed (for example, nobody made any mention of ] or the criteria therein), and (c) many of the !votes were - simply put - nods in agreement. ] (]) 16:05, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

			four, and still missing you, - hope you like Die Fliege --] (]) 06:18, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
	== WP:Swimming auto-archive function ==

			five and missed, - see, people die, that's bad enough --] (]) 10:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
	Hey, A. At your leisure, can you code the WP:Swimming talk page so that it auto-archives anything older than 12 month? It's long overdue: there are discussion threads from 2009 on the talk page. Also, is a single archive adequate, or should it be segmented in some fashion? I'm sure it's easy to do, but I'm always afraid that I will throw a spanner in the works and damage or lose something that can't be fixed or recovered. Thanks. ] (]) 16:23, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	: Done! ] (]) 16:28, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	:: Thank you, sir. ] (]) 17:10, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

			six and missed - ] in case you ever look --] (]) 07:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
	== You're incorrect ==

			seven and missed --] (]) 06:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
	Yes, in fact, they are. There's even a template for it. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 18:46, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
			{{-}}
	: Which is? ] (]) 18:53, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	* winklevi ...Alakzi is entirely correct on the collapsing note issue, its that you just hate to be wrong or have someone not see it your way only. ] (]) 19:09, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:20, 28 June 2023

Inaccessible markup

Found a problem similar to the one you solved a year or so ago with {{Infobox gridiron football person}}. {{Infobox AFL biography}} is using inaccessible markup. Would you mind re-writing your script at Module:Infobox gridiron football person/convert to handle this slightly more complicated fix? The only "new" complication is that now three parameters must be split instead of two, and they don't all use similar parameter names (i.e. clubs vs. sooteams are both "teams" parameters). I copied over your gridiron football person module to Module:Infobox AFL biography/convert if you're willing to work on this. If not, I'd appreciate you pinging me so I can seek someone else. ~ Rob 23:46, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Actually, I think I figured it out. Thanks for your past work on the module! ~ Rob 07:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Spread a template

I am in the process of creating {{Edward Elgar}}, and added it already to his article. It should go also to the linked articles. Do we have a bot to do that? Could there be one? It would have to check if the template is already there, and if not insert it before any other navbox, before categories and other things that don't show on the screen, after external links, or references, or whatever is last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Sounds like a job for someone with AWB; try asking at Misplaced Pages:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:46, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I will, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Rename Request denied

Request for the rename has been declined per Special:GlobalRenameQueue/request/23039: "Please keep in mind this is your last change of name. We are not here to make all your whims.". Thank you. — regards, Revi 15:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Never before in my life was I insulted as much as I've been insulted in a little less than two years on Misplaced Pages. What a horrible place. Izkala (talk) 16:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

And there was absolutely no reason to post this in public; as you must be well aware, the rejection reason was emailed to me in private. Clearly, you've an axe to grind with me or a bone to pick or whatever. Izkala (talk)

...and rightly so! (referring to the image caption) Wikipedian Sign Language Paine 03:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

16 July 2016 recommended reading

16 July 2016

... on a centenary of a performance, - and thank you for help with the template used in the recording section, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Shy guy

A year ago you extended the {{shy}} syntax per a discussion on my talk page. I just wanted to thank you again for that (even though I'm probably the only one who uses it). E Eng 16:32, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...
"put more emphasis on her achievement"

... you were recipient no. 1296 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Two years now, and missed, see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Three years and missed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Happy 2019, in case you ever look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

four, and still missing you, - hope you like Die Fliege --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

five and missed, - see, people die, that's bad enough --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

six and missed - User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2021 in case you ever look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

seven and missed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)