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'''Larry Sanger''' was the first (and so far only) editor-in-chief of ] and (with ]) instigator of ]. ] ], ] ], ], ]. ] ] ], ]. Home town is ].
Dear Wikipedians,


I'm no longer associated with Misplaced Pages, which I co-founded. (I named it, crafted much of the policy that now guides the project, and led the project for its first year. As on March 25, 2002, a week before I resigned, I was "the final arbiter of what the consensus is" on Misplaced Pages.) You can read my own account of my involvement with Misplaced Pages and Nupedia, "The Early History of Nupedia and Misplaced Pages: A Memoir," here:
I'm currently taking (another) much-needed break from Misplaced Pages, so if you leave me any messages here, I might not see them for a long time.
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Links to some of my other writings about the project, and other topics, can be found at http://www.larrysanger.org.
I have set up an . I hope you'll find it useful when researching Misplaced Pages articles. I think we should aim to be at least as complete as any search results we find via that search engine.


Here are some links about . To the best of my knowledge, I was first described as co-founder of Misplaced Pages back in September 2001 by ''The New York Times.'' That was also my description in Misplaced Pages's own press releases from 2002 until 2004. With my increasing distance from the project, and as it grew in the public eye, however, some of those associated with the project have found it convenient to downplay and even deny my crucial, formative involvement. In fact, in the early years of the project, my role was not in dispute at all. The preceding links should dispel much of the confusion.
I am spending some time organizing a .


I am now working on various educational projects. Among other things, I recently web-published a 140-page essay titled ''''
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I can be reached at sanger (a t) watchknow (d o t) org.
Until December 2001, I was a full-time paid employee of ], spending most of my work time (especially in the latter part of 2001) on ]. As of February 1, 2002, I was no longer paid at all; I made explaining that I'd continue on as a part-time volunteer. On March 1, 2002, I resigned responsibility for leading Misplaced Pages and as editor-in-chief of ]; my reasons are given in my . To reiterate, primarily I needed this extra time to find a job, and I felt that I could not work effectively as a leader when I am working only as a part-time volunteer.


--Larry Sanger
I've settled in the ] area.


P.S. Here's what I posted when I left in 2002. Still good advice:
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All the best to Misplaced Pages and Wikipedians. May you ''continue''
Columbus has a lot of squirrels. Sometimes I feel like this when working on Misplaced Pages--hard to explain.
* to be open and warmly welcoming, not insular,
* to be focused singlemindedly on writing an ''encyclopedia,'' not on Usenet-style debate,
* to recognize and praise the best work, work that is detailed, factual, well-informed, and well-referenced,
* to work to understand what neutrality requires and why it is so essential to and good for this project,
* to treat your fellow productive, well-meaning members of Misplaced Pages with respect and good will,
* to attract and honor good people who know a lot and can write about it well, and
* to show the door to trolls, vandals, and wiki-anarchists, who if permitted would waste your time and create a poisonous atmosphere here.


P.P.S. From September 2006 through 2009 or so, I worked on another wiki encyclopedia project, called the ''.'' It requires that contributors use their real names (but articles are still unsigned), and the project is guided by expert editors (but the general public is still the mainstay and strongly urged to join). I also have
:Because sometimes it seems like a gathering of nuts? Sorry, coudln't resist. --]


P.P.P.S. I have recently made a couple of short videos about how I helped get Misplaced Pages started here: and
::No, actually because it's a fuzzy cute small animal that looks like it's saying, "Who, me?" :-)


P.P.P.P.S. My more recent projects include and, just launched last week, (11/3/2011)
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P.P.P.P.P.S. I’m now strategizing and organizing putting ] (which is a fork of the English language Misplaced Pages, plus 1,000,000 new articles) on the blockchain. This will decentralize encyclopedia article production and make it possible for people, finally, to be compensated for their previously volunteer-only work on encyclopedias. (1/2018)
(This picture was taken for a '']'' article about Misplaced Pages.)


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=== What I've written here ===

I worked on many hundreds of articles. I originated quite a few. I inflicted ] first on Ohio State students, and now on Misplaced Pages.

I wrote a few 'pedia-related columns, which I moved to .

You can help to promote Misplaced Pages. This is one of the most important things you can do for the Misplaced Pages community. Go to ].

=== Random discussion ===

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''Add any comments here!''

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A message in a bottle to Larry Sanger . . .

I am not yet clear on what happened before I encountered Misplaced Pages and Nupedia, but I do know what it is to work on something that matters.

. . . And that the work is the important thing.

. . . And that the quality of your work speaks for itself.

Oh yeah! . . .

F*** `em if they can't take a joke! -- ]
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Thanks! I appreciate that. Yep, I'd like to put the unpleasantness behind me. The treatment was rough while it lasted but the whole process of making and guiding Misplaced Pages from the beginning was also fun and rewarding. But y'know I'm very glad that Misplaced Pages is surviving without me. :-) --Larry

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Here's a link for you to try:

It's a recient changes list for everything linked from ]. It should have nearly all the topics that currently exist, and links to a number of potential topics, so there's a good chance new philosophy topics will show up on the list as well. Hopefully it will be useful to you.
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Thanks for putting it together, Mark. I already tried it and it's pretty neat. I just hope some coder puts together a plan of action for how we can auto-categorize (and hand-recategorize) existing and newer links, so that this sort of resource is available for all Main Page fields, and kept up to date. --]


Dear Larry: I wrote the Eugene Wigner article. I promise you it is not plagiarized or copyrighted material.

Sincerely, Andrew Szanton
ASzanton@rcn.com

Great! I'm glad to hear it! Fantastic article. --]

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Hi, Larry. See the Bayesian Probability talk page. You will observe that I agreed with you. The article contains an error that I may correct once I've figured out what should replace it. ] 22:32 Jan 18, 2003 (UTC)
PS: That's a good picture of you right under the statement that you've settled in Columbus, Ohio, but who's that guy in front of the keyboard?

Latest revision as of 17:00, 17 April 2021

Dear Wikipedians,

I'm no longer associated with Misplaced Pages, which I co-founded. (I named it, crafted much of the policy that now guides the project, and led the project for its first year. As Jimmy Wales declared on March 25, 2002, a week before I resigned, I was "the final arbiter of what the consensus is" on Misplaced Pages.) You can read my own account of my involvement with Misplaced Pages and Nupedia, "The Early History of Nupedia and Misplaced Pages: A Memoir," here:

Links to some of my other writings about the project, and other topics, can be found at http://www.larrysanger.org.

Here are some links about my role in Misplaced Pages. To the best of my knowledge, I was first described as co-founder of Misplaced Pages back in September 2001 by The New York Times. That was also my description in Misplaced Pages's own press releases from 2002 until 2004. With my increasing distance from the project, and as it grew in the public eye, however, some of those associated with the project have found it convenient to downplay and even deny my crucial, formative involvement. In fact, in the early years of the project, my role was not in dispute at all. The preceding links should dispel much of the confusion.

I am now working on various educational projects. Among other things, I recently web-published a 140-page essay titled How and Why I Taught My Toddler to Read.

I can be reached at sanger (a t) watchknow (d o t) org.

--Larry Sanger

P.S. Here's what I posted when I left in 2002. Still good advice:

All the best to Misplaced Pages and Wikipedians. May you continue

  • to be open and warmly welcoming, not insular,
  • to be focused singlemindedly on writing an encyclopedia, not on Usenet-style debate,
  • to recognize and praise the best work, work that is detailed, factual, well-informed, and well-referenced,
  • to work to understand what neutrality requires and why it is so essential to and good for this project,
  • to treat your fellow productive, well-meaning members of Misplaced Pages with respect and good will,
  • to attract and honor good people who know a lot and can write about it well, and
  • to show the door to trolls, vandals, and wiki-anarchists, who if permitted would waste your time and create a poisonous atmosphere here.

P.P.S. From September 2006 through 2009 or so, I worked on another wiki encyclopedia project, called the Citizendium. It requires that contributors use their real names (but articles are still unsigned), and the project is guided by expert editors (but the general public is still the mainstay and strongly urged to join). I also have a blog with lots of my old essays and speeches.

P.P.P.S. I have recently made a couple of short videos about how I helped get Misplaced Pages started here: Part 1 and Part 2.

P.P.P.P.S. My more recent projects include WatchKnowLearn and, just launched last week, Reading Bear. (11/3/2011)

P.P.P.P.P.S. I’m now strategizing and organizing putting Everipedia (which is a fork of the English language Misplaced Pages, plus 1,000,000 new articles) on the blockchain. This will decentralize encyclopedia article production and make it possible for people, finally, to be compensated for their previously volunteer-only work on encyclopedias. (1/2018)

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