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			hey @] you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?
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			the article's lead says it's "sometimes ''Cahercommane"'' which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm
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			Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.
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			Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of ''Tulach Commáin'' ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).
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			His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.
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			:Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			::Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
			::The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. ] (]) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane
			:::: https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 ] (]) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::Monument Name: Cahercommane
			::::https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
			::::Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir ] (]) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
			::::::Even historically, chiefdoms to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
			::::::I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
			::::::For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
			::::::If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. ] (]) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::::Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::::Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::::Will check it out.
			::::::::No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. ] (]) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::::::objecting to my redirect link.... why? ] (]) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::::::That is clearly stated in the nomination. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::::::::I've just explained why you're mistaken. ] (]) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:https://en.wiktionary.org/commane interesting! dictionary describes ''commane'' an alternative form of ''commaun''
			:there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. ] (]) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:Hi @] check this https://www.logainm.ie/en/35676 1838 there are 13 different spellings for the same spot 🤪 ] (]) 14:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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Cahercommaun

hey @The Banner you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?

the article's lead says it's "sometimes Cahercommane" which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm

You removed this.

Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.

Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of Tulach Commáin ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).

His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.

No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!

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Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. The Banner talk 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.

The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane

https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Monument Name: Cahercommane

https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm

Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. The Banner talk 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.

Even historically, chiefdoms to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.

I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.

For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.

If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? The Banner talk 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. The Banner talk 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Will check it out.

No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

objecting to my redirect link.... why? Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

That is clearly stated in the nomination. The Banner talk 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I've just explained why you're mistaken. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

https://en.wiktionary.org/commane interesting! dictionary describes commane an alternative form of commaun

there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. Kellycrak88 (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @The Banner check this https://www.logainm.ie/en/35676 1838 there are 13 different spellings for the same spot 🤪 Kellycrak88 (talk) 14:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, I saw you reverted a reference to nonstop year-round service on United for Washington-Dulles due to non-independent reference. This was taken directly from the airport's official website, so unclear why this is not considered a primary source. Can you elaborate on what should be used instead or why this reference is not acceptable? Looking forward to your response, thank you. PAE2008 (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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