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== ] on ] == | |||
I am trying to cut promotional content from ]. ] seems like a "reliable source". However, looking at the content they've published, I'm concerned that this newspaper may have a conflict of interest when it comes to her/her billionaire family. | |||
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In fact, many of the sources used in the article seem like the kind of thing a billionaire in a country like Nigeria probably paid someone to write but I am not sure how to handle this. ]] 08:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== G2003 == | |||
:Maybe best to raise the issue at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard (]). Users there may be able to confirm your concerns or perhaps could point you in the direction of a list of ] and non-RS sources within the Nigerian media. Hope this helps. ] (]) 12:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::Just a brief follow-up to say that there is actually a current thread at ] in relation to the reliability of Nigerian newspapers (here ) which may be of assistance to the user who opened this thread. It seems that the existence of sponsored content in Nigerian newspapers is a widespread problem. Regards, ] (]) 04:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::I have run across a new editor who has created many articles based on these Nigerian sources. At first I thought it was a conflict of interest but now I am not so sure (but probably a conflict of interest with at least one of the subjects). I have moved the new articles to draft. ] ]] 17:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|PeoplePerHour}} — like eLance, he says he works for this outfit | |||
* {{la|Matt Dunn (author)}} | |||
* {{la|Candice Farmer}} — underwater fashion photog (at least it's interesting) | |||
* {{la|Nathan Hill}} - actor/producer/director | |||
* {{la|Henry Herbert Tailors}} | |||
* {{la|Matt Woosey}} | |||
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* {{la|Chris Galvin}} | |||
* {{la|Jeff Galvin}} - <small>nice reply from ]</small> | |||
* {{la|Oliver Cookson}} | |||
* {{la|DAMAC Properties}} | |||
* {{la|Tristan Capital Partners}} | |||
* {{la|Jessica Huie}} - JH Public Relations apparently doesn't set a very high bar for their outsourcing | |||
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* {{la|Journey to Le Mans}} | |||
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;undeclared COI articles (chronological order) | |||
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* {{la|Jay Mo}} — rapper | |||
* {{la|Yank Barry}} | |||
* {{la|House clearance}} - clumsy spamming | |||
* {{la|Probate}} - clumsy spamming | |||
* {{la| Manu Sharma}} - not sure about commercial link, but apparent of political figure | |||
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; botched(?) COI | |||
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G2003 hasn't come clean as a '''paid editor''' per agreement at ANI (see ]). Background: has been active for years now. of COI in early 2013 and in mid 2014 then in late 2014 with a promise to stop. Never explicitly enumerated paid connection(s). My investigation of articles edited shows big discrepancy between declared COI and the remainder. ] (]) 16:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Seems pretty clear that they are a paid editor, and yet they've failed to actually disclose it properly, and are continuing to do it despite claiming to have stopped. Saying "I've been paid to maintain this article" is insufficient, the Terms of Use specifically require that the client who paid them is disclosed. ] (]) 16:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::To be completely clear, his October 2014 promise was to stop ''paid advertising''. Not sure what that's even supposed to mean in terms of our COI policy; is it paid advocacy? Is a advertising? — ] (]) 17:12, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::They have not done much editing lately. This is a concern though . Maybe a block until issues can be clarified would be useful. ] (] · ] · ]) 17:54, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::'''Support''' block proposed by {{ping|Doc James}}. Tagged ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] with COI notices. The others seem to have had a reasonable amount of non-COI input from other editors, else were already tagged. — ] (]) 18:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Added some COI-ful userspace drafts to watch in case of future shenanigans. — ] (]) 18:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::'''Support block''', at least until they're willing to disclose properly, and IMO should be longer than that. Undisclosed paid editing is not acceptable, and undisclosed paid editing after apparently claiming that you'd stop it is even worse. ] (]) 18:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Tagging ] on the article page flags a moot issue. It's been almost a year since G2003 edited that article, and that dispute, which went all the way to litigation, has since been resolved. I'd suggest taking the COI notices off articles where the edit wasn't recent and has since been undone. ] (]) 18:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Undid ] COI notice, thanks for seeing that. What else do you suggest? — ] (]) 19:06, 27 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
Also useful to note that there are numerous article that G2003 created that were subsequently deleted for failing a range of guidelines and policies (admins can take a look at their long list of deleted contributions). One deleted article was a hoax, although it does appear that G2003 himself was hoaxed (the subject also managed to get similar stuff onto Fox News Asia's site) rather than him having any malicious intent – however it does show the perils of such an approach. ] ]] 15:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Did we get anywhere with sorting this out? Doesn't look like we did. ] (]) 00:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Doesn't look like it to me either. '''Support block''', obviously. — ] (]) 01:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Vestmark == | |||
I'm a long term editor on wikipedia, mostly contributing images, and doing copyedits. I started work for a company called ] last year, but they don't have a Misplaced Pages page. Is it an automatic conflict of interest if I started an article on Vestmark? I don't want to get in trouble. There's already a red link to it from ]. ] (]) 18:01, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:In a word, yes. Please go through ]. — ] (]) 18:34, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks. Since there's an automatic conflict of interest, I won't create the article. ] (]) 18:53, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|Faolin42}} You can request an article to be made on them by someone without COI at ]. ] (]) 18:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::It would probably be smart to include your relationship with Vestmark on your userpage too, to avoid future problems. — ] (]) 19:09, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::{{ping|Brianhe}} Surely if their company doesn't have a Misplaced Pages page, then a COI declaration is unnecessary? Think that was the outcome of a discussion above involving me and COI. ] (]) 19:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Just thinking über defensively, if ] wants to be covered for any future accusation of an undeclared COI, a pre-emptive declaration on his userpage would work. He's in an especially vulnerable position, having given his real-world name and place of residence on his userpage, and declaring a COI here. But of course, reviewing his edit history, it doesn't appear to be necessary at this time so I'll leave it up to him to decide what's right for him. — ] (]) 19:25, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::: Just about everyone works for somebody. It would be silly if everyone had to declare their employer on their user page because someone thinks they ''might at some unspecified future time'' edit an employer's article. Feel free to tell me that the COI policy means everyone must declare their employer, unless they're unemployed, but I warn you that you have an uphill battle, and I'm pretty sure that's not the meaning of the policy. --] (]) 03:57, 30 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::I tend to agree with Joseph and Unready on this. Seems silly to disclose all associations. We all have them, obviously. ] considers stating such associations on the relevant edit summaries if and when any COI is apparent. ] (]) 19:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
*I'd say that as long as you aren't editing anything Vestmark related in order to add Vestmark specific sources, you shouldn't have to post this on your profile. However I'd keep a link to this thread somewhere in your own personal pages just in case it ever does become an issue, since that way you'd have this to pull back on if it ever does come up via COI/N. On a side note, I can feel your anxiety. I didn't have to worry about COI until recently and now every time I do something regarding my COI, I get somewhat antsy. ]] 07:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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== Morgan James Publishing and related articles == | |||
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] has a COI on their userpage saying they "sometimes work on client articles". They've been repeatedly adding unsourced content to ], and adding ] as book publishers on the other articles (despite the fact no other book publishers are listed on them). This strongly suggests that ] are paying this user to edit/spam, especially as ] previously paid ] to create the article about them. I've asked them about COI and specific disclosure on their talkpage, but they aren't responding, but continue to edit. ] (]) 14:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC)<br> | |||
They also previously created ] via ], disclosing him as a "previous client" (not an adequate disclosure).] (]) 14:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
3 accounts with no contributions except to write promotional-sounding article ]. Notably: | |||
:I have copied my response to ] from my User Talk page: | |||
* "Trend Alchemy" appears to be the name of a PR firm in Italy | |||
:First, Morgan James Publishing is a past client. I am not currently receiving compensation from them, nor do I expect to do so for this editing work. Frankly, I can not figure out how to add this information to my USER PAGE. I would appreciate instructions to help me do that. I assume this is the place to do that. If not, please let me know. (Yes, I see that I made edits to this page before. However, I truly can not figure out how to do it.) | |||
* The {{conam|Trendalchemy}} account became inactive after being informed of paid-editing policy | |||
:I noticed that their page was marked as AfD and I wanted to help by linking to notable authors. I believe it is good policy to add sources to author pages such as books they have written, who the publisher was, and ISBN numbers. This is what I was doing. I hardly think this is spam. | |||
* The {{conam|Dpatrioli}} account was created afterward and has not disclosed COI status. | |||
I'd take this to SPI but the third account hasn't made any edits since I posted on its talk page. Thought I'd get a few more eyes on this in case the pattern continues. --] (]) 01:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Further, isn’t adding notable, credible information what is supposed to be done when an article is marked as AfD? If I know that information, shouldn’t I share it? | |||
:I recently attempted to get the material speedy deleted under ] but this was declined due to the material not being considered "unambiguously promotional". | |||
:As to your point that my information was unsourced, the very definition of sourcing - based on the article you referenced https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources - is to cite the publisher. | |||
:Presumably an attempt will be made at some point in the near future to introduce the article into mainspace. At that point, at a minimum, the elements of the article which clearly are promotional should be removed, and an undeclared PAID template added. Possibly the material should be draftified. | |||
:However, what concerns me is that it seems reasonable to assume that the Trendalchemy account (plus the other accounts above) appears to have links to a PR firm and the draft material is currently titled "Sample page". The material is not in the user's sandbox or being curated as a draft, it appears to be a sample of the work of a PR agency ''displayed on the user page of that PR agency''. That being the case, I do personally believe that deletion under G11 would have been appropriate as a userspace clearly should not be being abused in this way, as per ] (i.e. prescribed material includes {{tq|Advertising or promotion of business}}). I'd invite input from ] on the grounds for them declining the G11. ] (]) 13:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::G11 is for ''unambiguous'' promotion which it isn't. COI is not a rationale for speedy deletion either. ] is thataway if you want it to be deleted. – ] (]) 13:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree that it is not unambiguous promotion of the company which is the subject of the article (a company called "Translated"). | |||
:::However, it is most definitely unambiguous promotion of the PR firm who created the material because the material is titled as being a sample of the work of that PR firm and it is presented on the userpage of that PR firm. | |||
:::Or do you believe that PR firms post samples of their work online for reasons other than unambiguous self-promotion? ] (]) 14:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::UPDATE: I resubmitted the material for speedy deletion and it was deleted by a different user. ] (]) 15:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
: '''Update''': See {{conam|Dpatrioli}}'s message and my reply on my talk page ]. --] (]) 11:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::As just replied to @], and to give here with some more elements for your evaluation, this is what happened: | |||
::1) ] , ] are not representing any PR Agency, they both work at in the Communication department. You may find evidence | |||
::2) @] is an independent writer, and he has been hired to help us to write this article about Translated. He is not representing a PR agency but he is been paid by Translated for this task. | |||
::3) The main reason for the "speedy delete" request of the page was that the author/contributors were suspected to be a PR agency promoting itself with this page; the material, as I see in the talk history, has not been considered "unambiguously promotional". | |||
::We are new to produce contents here. But we decided to write this page and we made a draft, this wasn't finished. The page was meant to describe what has been the contribution of Translated in the last 20 years in the development of the Transformer applied to the AI and, more specifically, to Machine Translation advancements. The company developed a number of technologies available to the public, some of them free, and we believe it's notably and there is a huge number of third parties sources to mention that. | |||
::Thanks for the input, in case we publish again material we'll sure specify the proper COI. ] (]) 14:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::The draft was not considered to be "unambiguously promotional" but elements of it were certainly highly promotional in intent. | |||
:::I see the evidence that Dpatrioli works for Translated, but no evidence that Trendalchemy works for Translated. Trend Alchemy is a PR firm. ] (]) 15:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::@] Trendalchemy is not actually a company, is a laboratory, and the founder is Patrizia Boglione. Check this page on where it's written: "''I am now the Brand & Creative VP of one of the most innovative tech-companies in the translation industry that combines the best artificial intelligence with a network of 200,000 translators." Patrizia is the same person mentioned in the website of Translated.'' | |||
::::As far as "but elements of it were certainly highly promotional in intent", I understand where you come from, and we'll try to make it right, but I believe we can make a page where there's a relevant story for the audience (and I think there's one), then if I write something wrong, questionable, or with inappropriate sources, well it will be the public to correct or to modify it. From my side, I can write what I know from my angle (including declaring COI), it would be odd if I write something with the intent of discredit the company I work for. ] (]) 16:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::The Trend Alchemy website states that {{tq|Our products and services include Trend Report, New Brand Narratives, Future Brand Strategies, Brand Coaching, Custom Brand & Trend workshops, Trend Talks.}} There can therefore be little doubt that it is, broadly speaking, a PR company. | |||
:::::Also, Misplaced Pages is not about making {{tq|a page where there's a relevant story for the audience}}. This is an encyclopaedia, not an opportunity for marketing operatives to install a narrative. For further info on this please see ]. ] (]) 17:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::That's very useful, thank you ] (]) 19:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) and Fort Lauderdale Strikers == | |||
::Definition of a source | |||
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* {{userlinks|Amplifyplantz33}} | |||
] and numerous ] related articles, which Antonopoulos appears to have been a player for, have been edited by ]. The user seems to be Antonopoulos and received a notice to disclose their conflict of interest on December 4 by @]. The user did not respond and does not appear to have made an effort to disclose a conflict of interest as they are required to. The user also created the Antonopoulos article and is responsible for the majority of the content added to it. The only indication the user appears to have made to disclose their potential conflict of interest was to write "Chris Antonopoulos" on their user page. ] (]) 07:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::The word "source" when citing sources on Misplaced Pages has three related meanings: | |||
:I've removed a lot of unsourced material from the Antonopoulos article, but clearly the problems here extend rather further than that. ] (]) 15:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::The piece of work itself (the article, book) | |||
::The user has now denied on their talk page that they are Antonopoulos. It must be admitted, however, that they appear to be a ] dedicated solely to promoting Antonopoulos and mentioning him on as many articles as possible. | |||
::The creator of the work (the writer, journalist) | |||
::It seems unclear whether the user has a COI or is just a fan who is unaware of the policies on sourcing and promotion. | |||
::'''The publisher of the work ('''for example, Random House or Cambridge University Press) | |||
::Any thoughts on whether Antonopoulos satisfies ] and whether detailed info on beach soccer activities is usually considered suitable for inclusion? ] (]) 15:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Any of the three can affect reliability. Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. These qualifications should be demonstrable to other people. | |||
:::It seems unlikely that they would be so obsessed with Antonopoulos if they were not either him or someone closely associated with him, and their response is quite odd. There does appear to be a Chris Antonopoulos who signed a professional contract with the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and to me that satisfies notability as the beach soccer and pre-professional soccer contract section of his career would not make Antonopoulos notable enough to have an article alone. It is of note that Antonopoulos does not appear to have been the primary goalkeeper during his tenure and that the primary goalkeepers were Jorge Valenzuela, Mario Jimenez, and ] at this time. It appears Antonopoulos only made two appearances between 1993 and 1994 which is when he was apparently signed to the team. From the perspective of someone who was not directly involved with the Strikers but would want to write about them, Valenzuela and Jimenez would probably be higher on the priority list than a goalkeeper who only made two appearances. The only parts about Antonopoulos in the article that are specific to him are praising his accomplishments. ] (]) 22:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Agreed 100%. ] (]) 22:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Additionally, the appear to indicate that whoever is writing the article had close connections with Antonopoulos throughout his career if they in fact have the right to upload them. ] (]) 23:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::The user continues to obsess over this article and to add large amounts of trivial non-encyclopaedic detail and generally promotional material. Are we really sure that the subject satisfies ]? ] (]) 00:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I generally go by pro athletes being notable enough to have an article, but Antonopoulos appears to have barely been a pro athlete, and like I brought up with the writer before they accused me of acting uncivil, it would make more sense to write articles about Antonopoulos' teammates. I'm not in favor of having an article on Misplaced Pages who's express purpose is to promote someone, even if they may meet the requirement of general notability. This is the first time I've dealt with an issue like this, so I apologize if I am not understanding things correctly as to what makes someone notable enough. ] (]) 01:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Article is notable. And I deem there's a consensus to proceed with option #1 - tag the 2 pages. ] (]) 22:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Adolph Jentsch == | |||
:As for “not responding” to you, with all due respect, I responded quickly as soon as I saw your notice. It takes a few minutes to generate a thoughtful, researched response to concerns such as yours.. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:50, 3 July 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::Copied my response:<br> | |||
With respect, the issue is that you aren't adding sourced content, you're adding completely unsourced content, as it's not being accompanied by ]- saying "I know it to be true" is not a reliable source. Also, you weren't responding to me and were continuing to edit hence my complaint. ] (]) 16:05, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|TriJenn}} You can edit your userpage by going through this link: ]. — ] (]) 16:35, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::{{ping|Brianhe}} Thanks very much. I will take care of that.] (]) 16:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::{{ping|Joseph2302}} I also wanted to let you know that I had written out my detailed response, thought I saved it, and only later did I see that it was not saved at all. So, I had to completely rewrite it. It all took some time. ] (]) 16:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::{{ping|Brianhe}} Your link took me to my User page. I have no trouble finding the page. I just can't figure out how to edit it. I see no "edit" option, like on other pages. I have done extensive searches inside and outside of Misplaced Pages. I feel pretty stupid as I am sure this is quite simple. However, I can't figure it out. ] (]) 16:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::The edit button is in the same place as anywhere else on Misplaced Pages. Also, you still need to stop ignoring the bit where I said "due to your ], you are discouraged from directly editing these articles, use the article talkpage instead". ] (]) 17:19, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{Undent}}{{ping|TriJenn}} It looks like you found the link to your userpage. However, I think you forgot some folks on your COI declaration. — ] (]) 05:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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* {{la|Resuelve Tu Deuda}} | |||
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* {{la|Draft:Gold Star Mortgage Financial Group}} | |||
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* {{la|Kelly Phillips Erb}} - writer/attorney | |||
* {{la|Ron Daise}} - writer / TV personality ''Gullah Gullah Island'' | |||
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* {{la|Mike Mohr}} - Omidyar Network exec | |||
* {{la|Howard Sweeney}} | |||
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* {{la|Meg Jay}} - writer, TED speaker | |||
* {{la|Tony Niceley}} - CEO of Geico | |||
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*{{la|Wenxin Keli}} SPA=90% : folk remedy | |||
*{{la|Rod Zullo}} SPA=50% : artist | |||
*{{la|John Cole Roberts}} SPA=90% : retired geologist | |||
*{{la|Maria Leach}} SPA=no : writer | |||
*{{la|Suranga Nanayakkara}} SPA=50% : assistant professor | |||
*{{la|Disability and employment in the United Kingdom}} SPA=yes : social issue | |||
*{{la|Christopher D. Cook}} SPA=yes : musician | |||
*{{la|Myriam J. A. Chancy}} SPA=50% (along with ], CEO) : writer | |||
*{{la|Juan Carlos Flores}} SPA=50% : writer | |||
*{{la|Fifth Street Asset Management}} SPA=yes (along with ], CEO of same) | |||
*{{la|Proposify}} SPA=99% : software | |||
*{{la|John Ellis Bowlt}} SPA=no : author | |||
*{{la|Tanya Mars}} SPA=no : artist | |||
*{{la|Wilson Ng}} SPA=yes : actor | |||
*{{la|Alan Resnick}} SPA=90% : comedian/artist | |||
*{{la|Goo Create}} SPA=99% : software | |||
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*{{la|Richard Banks (banker)}} SPA=no : CEO | |||
*{{la|Kevin Kwan Loucks}} SPA=yes : musician | |||
*{{la|Craig Edward DeForest}} SPA=yes : physicist | |||
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*{{la|David W. Thompson}} three SPAs: CEO | |||
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There is an IP editor who is repeatedly entering non-encyclopedic text, such as . I've reversed him once but he then sent me several abusive emails accusing me of article ownership, so I don't want to reverse him again. I cannot give him a COIN notice because he uses different IPs every time he edits. Can someone other than me please remove the edit and perhaps protect the article from IP edits? Thanks! ] (]) 05:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
If there is doubt, then there is NO doubt. I have no doubt this is undisclosed, paid editing. Top three entries -- CEOs, credit loan companies should be convincing enough. ] (]) 23:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:You can request page protection at ]. -- ] (]) 14:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I've noticed that they've been creating all these articles as drafts (which is the correct thing for COI/paid editors to do), but then accepting them all themselves, so on the article talkpages it says "accepted via AfC"- this seems pretty odd and dodgy to me, never seen it before. ] (]) 00:01, 9 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::And posting the "article accepted" notices to his own userpage . Beyond dodgy. ] (]) 00:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Actually if you use the AFCH script to accept articles, it automatically sends a notification to the submitter. But I cannot see a legitimate user doing that, most editors with 7 years experience would just create articles rather than using a draft process. ] (]) 00:18, 9 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Conflict of interest - Veeranjaneyulu Viharayatra Article == | |||
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:"If there is doubt, then there is NO doubt"? Wow. Because there's a pattern? But nothing ACTUALLY ]?! | |||
], I think there is a conflict of interest here. The director himself has created an account and working on the article - ] (]) 08:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I'm sitting gobsmacked. How do I respond? I've been on Misplaced Pages for 8 years. I've donated thousands of hours of my life. NOT PAID. Teahouse, articles for creation, 3O. Logged in, not logged in. I spent two weeks trying to fix that ] article a few years ago. | |||
The Article was intitated by @udaywrites and is getting expanded by @anuragpatla. Who are the crew of the film. ] (]) 08:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:This list of articles (all the ones I've written in the last 2 years?) are great!! I wrote them with neutrality and a mature understanding of Misplaced Pages policies. Show me where I didn't. | |||
== Vanskere == | |||
:Take away the charity articles because I do hunt for charities to write pages for - I gave up fighting the ] battle a few years ago and decided the best way to fight his horde of followers was to fill Misplaced Pages with other charities. Take away the topical stuff (Roskopf was on the cover of the newspaper magazine a few weeks ago, Hatmaker's blog is viral). You can quickly figure out my IRL. Yes, mention that Misplaced Pages is your hobby once and it's all over. I've been in my boss' office and had him run in a person and say I'm a Misplaced Pages editor like I'm royalty. People immediately ask if they are notable enough for an article. If they are, they want one. We all know this. I always warn them, "You may hate it and once it is up, it won't come down. I only write what conforms to ] and you don't get a say." My boss has NEVER pressured me to write them, always says I have to follow the rules, and the closest he's come to paying me for Misplaced Pages articles is a signed copy of a book after the fact. | |||
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:I just spent an hour editing ] because it was obviously written by a PR rep and was completely peacock. You asking if I have a COI with some of these? Yes - some of these people I've met, some of these people I admire. But I have written every article with a Chinese Wall and always adhered to the same pillars that I teach other new editors. BECAUSE I AM ABOUT THE ETHICS. Go back through my editing history, though much of it isn't signed in the rest tells you who I am. | |||
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This editor is screaming conflict of interest to me. Both articles have been tagged as promotional utilizing ], I have nominated them for deletion. As you can see on the user talk page, they have been asked about conflict of interest without a response. They also posted asking about how to make Google index their brand's article. Their primary other edit was to add the brand to ]. ]] 18:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I am going to say this, ], directly to ''you'' although it bends Misplaced Pages's policy against personal attack. Listing articles as though CEO's or credit companies or marketing companies naturally shouldn't be in Misplaced Pages so of course they MUST be PR? This is one of the underrepresented sectors here and one that suffers prejudice (ahem). I will go make a COI statement on my page to the extent of the people I have met who I have written about. I probably should have done that but I am not sure when - frankly, and I was thinking about this with the Ken Sunshine thing, where COI starts is an issue for most of us at Misplaced Pages. We write about our interests and often they intersect with our real lives. Sunshine's people are paid PR people who sit in cubbies and try to bend Misplaced Pages to their client's will. But the rest of us do not have that clarity. Once I am done being outraged, this is somewhere I should probably volunteer. Misplaced Pages deserves SO much better than a page like this. If we want the encyclopedia to keep growing with good articles - we need a way to acknowledge that all of us write what we know, who we know, write what we love, and get more from it beyond the altruistic. Gratitude and acknowledgement to a copy of a book in thanks afterwards. This is not BAD - encouragement in many forms is what keeps all of us here. It may not cut down on the 1000 deletions/day but it may boost the volume of good articles.] (]) 01:22, 9 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Upon further investigation looking at the user's linked social media, the brand page in question is listed as one of their clients. ]] 18:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:* I just saw a comment about how I write articles. Seriously? That IS a personal attack. I had the draft page as a bookmark and I like the draft page because it allows me to make all my mistakes without being live and it doesn't force me to do the coding and moving, which I suck at (see all the dangling archives and drafts I've left over the years). I can't be the only one who likes using this system? I used to wait for someone else to approve my articles for publication but as a one of the actual approvers, I realized a while back that I was adding to that backlog and could just publish it and then wait for it to be patrolled - which is a similar process. I did try to write an article live recently and screwed it up by putting an erroneous "S" in the name. | |||
== Marc Jorgenson == | |||
::*This morning, I am looking again at this list and shaking my head at all of you. You made erroneous allegations and assumptions and have no narrative at all stating how these articles are PR. Mike Mohr is not an executive - there's award named after him at MIT, he was a teacher who died (I am not associated with MIT) but I was never sure he met notability. Likewise Howard Sweeney, a doctor who is the former father in law of someone I knew in college. My child really loves Gulla Gulla island. (A MAYBE, REALLY?) John Rennie is an architect I got interested in doing an article on an Australian landmark. David Savage is an artist, he wrote this gorgeous book that was on my friend's coffee table. Jen Hatmaker is a Christian motivational speaker who has a viral blog I've read. Brad Walker wrote a book that physical therapists like to give patients. Benita Refson started a charity that the Duchess of Cambridge made famous. I am so deeply disappointed in this process - why me? Who ARE you people? How did you decide that the pantheon of my interests somehow is questionable? There's nothing in these articles. There's nothing in my behavior. In fact, 80% of my article touches remove puff - and I do it ALL by hand with 20 tabs of refs open. How many tags have I left because of questionable refs and tone? I've been a champion for neutrality. GO LOOK. I happen to work in an industry that brings notable people to my attention who don't have articles. SO I WRITE THEM. Like the guy who wrote most of the Hawaiian ukelele articles. 90% of these people don't know who I am but I am willing to bet all the ukelele players knew that other guy. No one here has made a single example of how my articles are bad, just because I wrote some about these entrepreneurs who wrote books you've put me on a witch hunt. Look, I get the problem of paid PR people damaging articles with slant and puff but what are the rules you live by as you fight that? Doesn't there actually have to be PUFF and SLANT and someone who damages articles? | |||
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::Short reply because I don't want to come across as emotional about this, but you have expressed conditions under which you definitely have a conflict. You're writing about people you know professionally. Your boss lauds you for it. You said (I think) that you receive gifts in return. Your editing history is singularly focused on attention-seeking people, whose own careers benefit from the attention you provide them. It looked indistinguishable from paid COI to me (see ] for a clearly parallel case) and we investigate this sort of stuff day after day, '''as is appropriate'''. One additional thing: I write sometimes about authors who probably benefit from attention, and I write sometimes about rocks that don't care if they get attention (my history is also transparently documented at my userpage). But if all I wrote about was attention-seeking people, and never about rocks, it wouldn't be surprising to me if some other editor confronted me about it and at least asked the question "why"? I'll be on wikibreak starting tonight, so others here can comment on their perspective on this and continue the conversation if need be. — ] (]) 18:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
I haven't looked into this in great detail yet, but from the few articles I have looked at I agree with Brianhe that there are reasons to be concerned. Take for example these diffs of my removals of content EBY3221 added: . The sourcing of the content was extremely poor, completely failing ] and was also promotional. I've also noticed unsourced BLP content e.g. which also makes me concerned as it raises the question of where the information came from. It's also odd that was uploaded only 3 days after it was as it suggests that EBY3221 was in contact with the subject. {{ping|EBY3221}} can you please explain these edits? Thanks ] (]) 16:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Likewise, see ] by another user claiming authorship, that EBY3221 ]. And again with ] . ] (]) 16:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::I'm only finding more problems. See of my edits starting to clean up ]. Huge chunks of text were referenced to sources which didn't even mention him! If this is typical there is a lot of clean up to do. ] (]) 17:21, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* This is self-evident promotional abuse, I have blocked the account for now. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
**{{ping|JzG}} Thanks. Given the lack of communication and the amount of ] I've found so far there didn't seem to be any other option. ] (]) 21:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::*An IP has admitted to being the user and a paid editor - note they've used 2 IPs to ]. ] (]) 11:33, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|JzG}} {{ping|Joseph2302}} Yeah, thanks. {{ping|EBY3221}}: Edits that introduce undisclosed paid advocacy, are illegal in the USA. Keeping the content you contributed, given how obvious it is that it's largely the result of UPAE would be aiding and abetting. So unless you can identify, article by article, what is paid and what isn't, we will need to err on the side of caution and delete most of it. Jimbo himself has said that "FTC 16 CFR Part 255 is relevant" to showing that "PAE (Paid Advocacy Editing) is flat out illegal." --]<sup>(]•])</sup> 16:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent}}Could the rollbacker and reviewer rights userboxes be removed from the userpage? ] (]) 23:56, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Justin Lafazan == | |||
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Blatantly promotional article and severe failure of ] with puffery removed by users before. 3 single-purpose accounts as well as 3 IPs of close proximity have edited the article in around 2008. There definitely is signs of paid editing or people connected with subject editing the article, so a block of these users and IPs should suffice alongside the deletion of the article. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">] ]</span> 06:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
MMSS4S has written nothing but promotion.<br> | |||
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Justin Lafazan started Millennial Marketing Strategy and Students4Students College Advisory. MMS and S4S. When put together that makes MMSS4S.<br> | |||
Much of the text of ] comes from the subjects own website. The image used comes from Lafazans website and MMSS4S says xe is the copyright holder.<br> | |||
] and ] are both fully formed advert obviously created by a shill.<br> | |||
Pics of Scott Duffy and Greg S. Reid are promo shots with copyright owned by MMSS4S. Both subjects have had previous spam on here from socking shills. The Reid photo comes from the same shoot as a photo on Reid's facebook page. The Duffy photo appears on his copyrighted website and comes from the same shoot as one that may have been on the previous article which was created by a sock of ], this photo.<br> | |||
Lafazan, Sutton and Reid are all connect through The Umbrella Syndicate. ] (]) 12:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Justin Lafazan advertises a Misplaced Pages Package for $1000!!! . ] (]) 11:36, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::The "Zachary Barden Bio Draft" inexplicably contains material from the deleted article on Justin Lafazan. {{ping|Duffbeerforme}} It's obvious that MMSS4S has violated the TOU, and the link you found on his website is enough for me. However, I'm not seeing the relationship with Sibtain 007 that could justify the G5 placed on Randy Sutton. The CU on the SPI is inconclusive, what behavioral evidence is there? The photograph? <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 19:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::If this part of his bio is true then he might become notable for an ] lawsuit: "Over 30 employees and contractors support the growth of MMS - with the oldest employee age 22." ] (]) 23:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Jeez. Reporting the trademark violation to WMF. ] (]) 21:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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I think the two users are the same person and probably work for El Maliki to write the article. ]] 22:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Sharkywoo has been creating a bunch of new promotional articles for people from Studios 301. Working directly with them ]. ] (]) 13:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
: Deleted most of the puffery from ]. They'd repeated some things three times. Also removed their employee list. Added a reliable source. ] (]) 18:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:The photo of El Maliki was uploaded by ] ]] 22:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Kip 78 is a obvious shill. | |||
Editing is promotional. Subjects are favourites of paid editors. ] (]) 13:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::See ]. --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 13:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Agreed. I thought that they had stopped editing which is why I hadn't blocked them before. They're clearly only here to promote so I have indeffed them. The articles likely require cleanup. ] (]) 16:39, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Note that this appears to be {{user|Deed89}}/{{user|Adotrde}}; a paid editor who was part of ] a few years back. I've blocked the previous account as well. ] ] 18:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::] was also created by the ] group of socks. Related to this, {{user|THRMRKTG10}} (] Marketing) also needs keeping an eye on. ] (]) 12:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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* {{la|Westfield Old Orchard}} - cleaned - OK enough ] (]) 23:56, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Palm Desert}} - nom for speedy | |||
* {{la|Westfield Plaza Bonita}} - up for AfD by Joseph ] ] (]) 01:25, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield San Francisco Centre}} -- PRODed . PROD removed. just tagged unsourced/undersourced ] (]) 07:25, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Santa Anita}} - proded, removed, cleaned enough. '''consider for group AfD''' ] (]) 01:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Sarasota Square}} - clean enough. ] (]) 00:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Oakridge}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield South Shore}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield North County}} - could '''not''' fully clean ] (]) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Montgomery}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Southcenter}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Southgate}}- cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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* {{la|Westfield Sunrise}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 01:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield MainPlace}} - redirected to ] by joseph ] (]) 01:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC).. was , so I cleaned it enough. ] (]) 04:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC) '''consider for group AfD''' | |||
* {{la|Westfield Topanga}} - clean enough - '''consider for group AfD'''] (]) 01:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Horton Plaza}} - clean enough ] (]) 01:47, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Hawthorn}} - cleaned enough. '''consider for group AfD''' ] (]) 04:39, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Trumbull}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 04:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield UTC}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 04:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
* {{la|Westfield Valencia Town Center}} - cleaned enough. '''consider for group AfD''' ] (]) 05:08, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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User Napoleonjosephine2020 has been registered since 2020 and has almost exclusively edited Lindy Li's page. Since Kamala Harris has lost the US Presidential election, Li, previously a stalwart Biden/Harris partisan has made multiple appearances on TV attacking the Democratic Party and has seemingly declared she has left the Democratic Party. Several users (including myself) have edited Li's page to include these recent news stories. Napoleonjosephine2020, whose edit/user history shows her praising Li in laudatory terms, has repeatedly objected to inclusion of this information, deriding it as minor and irrelevant. Napoleonjosephine2020 has also engaged in personal attacks against other users and acted combative. Multiple unregistered IP addresses starting with 2601:41:4300:9370 (presumably coming from the same location) have also removed these edits, with a writing style similar to Napoleonjosepine2020, accusing other users of bad faith and using the same rationales for why this information should not be included. Napoleonjosephine2020 has been subject to temporary editing restrictions due to their disruptive editing, I suspect these unregistered IP addresses are Napoleonjosephine2020 making edits outside their account so that their registered account is not subject to further sanctions for disruptive editing. | |||
The user has a confessed COI on their user page related to their "representing" the ], a major owner of shopping malls, and was advised about it some years ago. However, their entire spate of recent edits (including to the above article and many other Westfield properties) has inserted clearly promotional language, peacock terms and other clear POV issues, directly against the guidelines they were advised about years ago. I do not believe the user can be trusted at this point. ] (]) 00:52, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:This was just an honest mistake on my part. I'm new to the site, having taken over the account from a previous person. I will be sure not to make this mistake in the future. Please do not change my account status. ] (]) <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding ] comment added 21:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::Accounts are personal and cannot be shared or transferred to another person. Please read the ]. ] (]) 21:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::{{ec}} Accounts must not be used by multiple users- as a result, this account should be blocked, and you should create a new account. ] (]) 21:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Accordingly, I have blocked this as a shared/role account. ] ] 22:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks for the block. I have listed the articles and tagged them all for COI and their talk pages too. ] (]) 22:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Quite a lot of them just aren't notable, so I've redirected them to ]. If/when an unconflicted editor wants to write about them, and can show their notability, I'm fine for them to be recreated. ] (]) 23:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::added main page and Westfield editor who edited there, just to round this out. ] (]) 23:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent}} I'm done trying to clean these up, every time I touch one of them to remove promotional content or just a redirect/PROD of non-notable spam, {{ping|Jojhutton}} reverts it. I guess we should just let the spammers spam instead. ] (]) 23:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{od}} added two more historical COI editors. ] (]) 01:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
*Three things. First, Jytdog, please identify the other two accounts you are referring to above. Secondly, slow down. These articles have existed for years, another few days is not going to destroy Misplaced Pages. Finally, remember that your own personal point of view of what is and is not notable is not the deciding factor here, and that shopping malls have generally been considered to meet the GNG. (Oddly, I probably agree with you that most of them aren't notable, but our shared view of notability is quite a bit narrower than that generally held to be the case at AfD.) ] (]) 05:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
*: I believe the users in , {{userlinks|Westfield North County}} and {{userlinks|Jeffin60613}}, are the two intended. I corrected a typo in the Jeffin60613 reference. --] (]) 19:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Per the case at Arbcom I am not working on COI stuff for a bit. ] (]) 23:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::Should some or all of these be merged into ], the parent company? See ]. Branches of chain stores are not usually considered notable. ] has its own article, but that is one of the most famous department stores in the world. Westfield's malls are generally big, but not that individually notable. Comments? ] (]) 19:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Normal practice in AfD discussions has been the malls of under 1 million square feet are not usually notable, and I think that at least very few articles for less than 500,000 sq ft have been accepted at afd.''']''' (]) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
Given this pattern of behavior, I think the evidence points to Napoleonjosephine2020 having a personal connection to the subject, with an interest in violating NPOV leading them to repeatedly engage in disruptive editing/edit warring.] (]) 01:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== AN discussion regarding username changes == | |||
:{{ping|Vosotros32}} Prior to your filing report here, the article was already semi-protected until March 2, and the editor in question was indefinitely ] from editing that article. I'm not sure what more you think this report is going to accomplish. --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 13:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
There is a discussion at ] that some of the regulars here might be interested in. <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 03:53, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Looks like that basically went nowhere, and the individual you mentioned basically refused to disclose on his new (sort of) userpage. What now? — ] (]) 02:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::{{re|Brianhe}} Nothing, I guess. Apparently the community doesn't think it's a problem, which makes me despair a bit honestly. It means you can get away from COI by simply requesting a username change, awesome! <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 20:41, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::The only solution I see that preserves integrity of the COI investigation and resolution process is to aggressively and comprehensively update the registry of conflicted editors at ]. It has been nearly dormant since May. — ] (]) 20:45, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== State University of New York at Geneseo == | |||
== Michael Thibodeau == | |||
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This editor has only edited the college's article, their username indicates a potential connection ("Comms" may indicate a role in communications at the college and 1871 is the date when the college official opened), and they have not responded to a brief but direct question on their User Talk page about this potential connection. Their edits are not objectionable but ] is not optional and our ] exists for good reasons. ] (]) 23:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I follow the Michael Thibodeau article and a user has attempted to add biographical information about him, which is fine to do, but the user seems to have a COI. An IP user claiming to be Jim Cyr, Thibodeau's communications director. After being reverted as adding unsourced information, the person having registered Jimcyr as their username. They have not yet replied to posts on their talk page about their edits, which again, aren't necessarily bad, but they are unsourced which is the primary reason I have reverted the changes. On their last edit they attempted to cite themselves as a source. ] (]) 22:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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== Kathryn Babayan == | |||
Today they added a very promotional edit about him(about his 'guiding principle'); they did cite some sort of web page but it wasn't clear what exactly they were citing in the page. ] (]) 15:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I agree, they are continuing to ignore advice, adding ] sourced only to Michael Thbodeau's official webpage. They show no signs of collaborating or discussing with other users, seems like a case of ] to me. ] (]) 17:43, 13 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::The user did contact me today; I directed them to their userpage to hopefully see the posts that have been put there already. ] (]) 21:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Just in case it wasn't clear before, they stated on my talk page that they work for Senator Thibodeau. ] (]) 22:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Looks OK now. Puffery deleted, basic political history remains. ] (]) 06:40, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Kadar Brock -- review requested == | |||
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Kathryn Babayan was an academic article I made two weeks ago. As of the past 24 hours, there is an IP editor on a rotating IP address that has been making wholesale wording changes to the article. Some of the changes are okay, more detailed than I had been, but I'm wondering if they're edging into promotional territory for her books. I tried asking the first version of the IP editor if they were Babayan themselves, which I feel is likely, but I received no response. And they're back to making changes just now with a different IP. | |||
] was created by a user who, it was alleged, had a COI. It was later deleted at AfD, and restored after two rather heated discussions at ]. The COI was a factor in those discussions. Along the way it was edited by several other editors. The article now looks reasonable to me (I have edited it to add additional content and sources). But a COI cleanup tag is still on the article. I am requesting one or more experienced uninvolved editors to review the article and see if any COI effects remain that would prevent removal of the tag. ] ] 16:51, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
Suggestions on what should be done? ]]<sup>]</sup> 22:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== MiamiDolphins3 == | |||
:The BLP is bloated with puffery and sources. It should be shortened substantially. ] (]) 00:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC). | |||
:: is how it was before the IP changed things, which I think was a good summary of her work. No idea what you're talking about with the sources however. There are technically only 9 in use in the article, with only one of which being a primary source from her university page. ]]<sup>]</sup> 01:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Just revert to the last good version before the IP started editing. If the user continues to edit the article then revert them again and request page protection at ]. ] (]) 01:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::K. I've gone ahead and made the revert, though I kept the lede change the IP made. Since I think that was actually an improvement. ]]<sup>]</sup> 01:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Article has now been protected to prevent further disruptive editing . With thanks, ] (]) 17:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Captain Beany == | |||
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I guess I'm coming out of hibernation (my wikibreak) early. The ] involving this editor was archived a little more than a month ago, after another editor was blocked, and MiamiDolphins3 gave a commitment to clean up some non-NPOV and/or primary sources in ], ], ], and ]. This was never done. Plus he's back to work on ] this month; it was not listed on the noticeboard previously. — ] (]) 00:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
User:CaptainBeany has been editing the ] article a few times over the past 16 years, as well as other edits related to the subject's novelty political party and former museum. They've made no edits outside of this. | |||
== The Next Internet Millionaire == | |||
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I'm shocked, shocked I say, that books about promoting yourself on the Internet are attracting COI from several SPAs. I've nominated '']'' for deletion. — ] (]) 02:00, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
: Still at AfD. If it stays, it will need trimming. ] (]) 06:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Just noting that a consensus had not formed, and the AfD was relisted. Here's your chance to express an opinion at ], if you haven't yet. — ] (]) 14:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
I posted a belated COI message on their talk page last year, after noticing the issue's history when working on the article: User:CaptainBeany had removed the paragraph in 2016, with nobody realising. The user didn't respond to the talk page template, and today they . ] (]) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== KartRocket deletion review == | |||
:The user to the COIN notification, though exactly what they're trying to communicate is beyond me. --] (]) 05:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Just thought I'd mention that ] which was deleted as a result of action here, is currently up for deletion review at ]. ] (]) 19:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Amalto and others == | |||
== Science of Identity Foundation == | |||
{{archive top|No substantial evidence indicating a conflict of interest has been presented in this complaint. As such, I am closing this discussion as groundless/.{{pb}}When filing at this board, {{u|Sokoreq}} is reminded to explicitly state the reasons that they believe a conflict of interest (as defined in ]). In particular, it is important to to avoid ] by making complaints here while failing to state a reasonable case to conclude that a COI exists. — ] <sub>]</sub> 04:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
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This senior editor reverting my constructive edits repeatedly, in which I created a new section to simplify the content and cited reference. However, it appears that the editor is maintaining the article and may have a conflict of interest. Even though I have warned the editor, but now editor has started an edit war. ] (]) 18:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Obvious COI for commercial articles. The second named editor has systematically !voted keep on several articles identified for blatant COI, and has an editing history nearly 100% matching COI-identified articles. ] (]) 21:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC) {{ping|JamesBWatson}} added to list ] which you had protected in June, 2013, to prevent spam re-creation. {{ping|SmartSE}} It appears possible there's a connection to the Aviation geek sockfarm via involvement in ]: as you pointed out at the AfD it was created by the sock TimeQueen32. — ] (]) 23:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:@], why haven't you attempted to discuss this at ] first? ] ] 18:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Just added <s>three</s> four new articles, two I just missed; ] was expanded from a crummy stub by Cosmopolite1. ] was created by Ianphillipson and the logo uploaded by Cosmopolite1, who also appears to be active on ru.wikipedia where he created the corresponding article with a similarly-named account. ] (]) 00:11, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Agreed. Looking over the talk page and edits, I don't see anything suggesting Hipal has a COI. Nor do I see anything to evidence that Sokoreq has a vested interest in editing the article, although it is curious that they went straight to the noticeboard without participating in the talk page. —''']''' (]) 18:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::@] You are right, I was surprised that the editor keeps reverting my edits. This behavior suggests editor may have ] or feel a sense of ownership of the page. ] (]) 19:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Reverting your edits is evidence that they disagree with you, which is allowed. Disagreeing with you is in no way evidence of a conflict of interest. ] (]) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::@] Yeh, I agree with you, but how many times ? And why? did you check my edit ? The editor was doing endless reverts, even after I requested clarification about their concerns on the talk page. ] (]) 20:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::You were also 'doing endless reverts'. Do you have a conflict of interest? ] (]) 20:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Did you check my edit? What is wrong with that edit? I would like to know so that I can improve myself for next time. Please be specific. Thanks ] (]) 20:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::You can improve yourself for next time by recognizing that reverts are a normal part of Misplaced Pages's editing process (see ]), and by refraining from making unfounded accusations towards other editors just because they reverted you. ] (]) 20:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I followed ], but the editor didn't adhere to the discussion part: 'Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement.' Anyway, did you check my edit that the editor reverted several times? That would be really helpful. ] (]) 20:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::No, you began edit warring after you were reverted. That is not following ]. And you still have not posted at ]. ] (]) 20:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::The editor reverted my edits without any explanation and did so repeatedly. I am still waiting for your insight. Did you check my edit? What mistake did I make? I want to understand; any help would be appreciated. ] (]) 20:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::Some of the mistakes that you made were edit warring and posting spurious talk page warnings (and now a noticeboard entry) rather than discussing your edits on the article's associated talk page. I'm not going to contribute to compounding those errors by debating the content with you here. If you want to continue with this, I would suggest that you withdraw the allegations you have made against Hipal, including the spurious vandalism, COI, and harrassment warnings you placed on their talk page, apologize to Hipal, and then go to ] where active discussions are currently taking place without your participation. ] (]) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::You are trying to make it seem like it's my fault only, and you are missing the point. Anyway, thanks; I have already explained my COI concern below. ] (]) 21:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] Already, there is a lot going on in that talk page. ] (]) 18:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::@] I agree that it's daunting. However, you don't get to override discussion by jumping straight to a noticeboard, and especially not COIN.—''']''' (]) 18:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::@] I apologize, but the editor's behavior was strange and did not make any sense. Now, after seeing the article history, it looks like the editor has a sense of ownership or maybe a conflict of interest. other than that, I don't have any other evidence to prove the COI. I leave the final decision to you, but now I am feeling Anxious about whether I should touch that article because it seems like that editor owns it. This is strange! ] (]) 19:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I think this can be closed as a groundless complaint. Sokoreq has continued to edit since opening this complaint but has yet to try to discuss the edits in question at ]. No evidence has been provided for conflict of interest, other than the OP's apparent assumption that there is no other possible reason that their edits would be reverted. ] ] 21:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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=== Andrewjohn39/Articles_for_deletion/Planview === | |||
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::*'''Comment''' Possible ] going on. Account ] is !voting keep on a series of articles created by COI editor ], but has not otherwise an active editor. The AfDs are: ] ] ] ] ] (]) 16:08, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:::] FYI, I don't know ] and the reason I am commenting on the articles created by him is because I read long discussions on his talk page where he also mentioned pages created by him and that are now nominated for deletion because of notability issue. I am only putting evedences of notability and I feel that whoever nominated these articles had not reviewed the references himself and it was a biased decision to nominate them for deletion. ] (]) 18:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
Received a COI notice January 5th but has continued to edit without declaring any COI. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 02:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::*Except that there is no such discussion on his/her talk page -- and that was easy to check. And how one ended up on such a talk page would need explaining. So I'm still dubious. ] (]) 15:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::*I can't help if you have a doubt but be assured that I don't know him...I accidentally landed on his page while reviewing a page created by him and then I went through all the discussions. Apart from this, I am only presenting the fact and doing nothing else..if you don't agree, present counter argument rather than blaming!! someone nominated pages for deletion because he thought that subjects are not notable..I am just trying to prove that nominations were wrong!! ] (]) 19:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:здравствуйте! я создаю статьи о компаниях по киборгизации и автоматизации, научных деятелей в этой области, это будет сделано в короткий промежуток времени, потому что проделана большая аналитическая работа по данным компаниям и я загружаю уже составленную ранее информацию, это не реклама, я допустил несколько ошибок, потому что впервые на википедии как автор, пожалуйста, я могу дальше создавать страницы? ] (]) 18:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I haven't posted here before, so apologies if this is wrong place/wrong data. | |||
:Hello! I am creating articles about companies in cyborgization and automation, scientific figures in this field, this will be done in a short period of time, because a lot of analytical work has been done on these companies and I am uploading previously compiled information, this is not advertising, I made several mistakes, because this is my first time on Misplaced Pages as an author, can I please continue to create pages? ] (]) 18:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 16:45, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::It appears that you are using a LLM like ChatGPT to create these drafts, and that your own communications are machine translated. Is that true? ] (]) 18:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*I've deleted some of these; they all seem to be on the same pattern, making roughly the same claims. I assume LLM use at minimum. ] <small>(])</small> 20:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== John Ortberg == | |||
{{ping|LaMona}} The post seems fine to me. As they were also being discussed in the post above, I've made this a subsection of that discussion- hope that's okay. And yes, it seems dodgy to me that an inactive editor has been voting keep at lots of AfDs of articles created by BiH, who recently declared themself to be a paid editor. ] (]) 16:49, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
] added a CEO's portrait to an article created by undisclosed paid editor ] . ] (]) 23:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:There are other very suspect crossovers between Andrewjohn39 and BiH e.g. where AJ added an awards section to ] that BiH had rewritten only . Similarly, they overlapped at ]. Also as I noted there was also suspicious, overlap between ] and AJ. Looking back I've found more problems as their very first edit was <sub>(admins only)</sub> creation of ] which was 100% promotional and obviously not written by a completely new user. Overall, I think this makes it clear that they are an undisclosed paid editor who is acting deceptively even when asked and as such unless an explanation is forthcoming, I don't see much other option but to block them indefinitely. ] (]) 11:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::'''Support''' blocking, of course. ] (]) 23:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== PNIStaff == | |||
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Well gee, now that their edits have news, somebody want to contact {{user|PNIstaff}} about their COI re: ] ? ] (]) 13:34, 18 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:At least one corporate IP involved as well. ] (]) 14:07, 18 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:The company page had very promotional wording. I added an advert tag to ] and did a first pass ] cleanup. -- ] ] ] 06:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Why is someone bothering to promote them? They were acquired a year ago and no longer exist as a separate company. ] (]) 06:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::If you feel the company is not notable according to ], then you should send the article to ]. I do note that without all the current press about the data breach, the company might not reach the notability threshold. -- ] ] ] 06:46, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Rebecca Rice (choreographer) == | |||
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Timothydw82 is a ] which is used solely to promote, defend and censor valid information about ]. Timothydw82 admits to consulting with Ortberg about the article on ] and has also used that page to make disparaging comments about Ortberg's son, Daniel Lavery. This is both a serious COI and POV problem. He has been warned before by other editors. My most recent warning (for POV editing) was met with what seems to be feigned incomprehension and "Do you work for Misplaced Pages?". I think it is time to put an end to this farce. ] (]) 02:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
] describes self on userpage as "Writer and assistant to other writers and celebrities who require rewrites, interviews and more". | |||
:Thanks for sharing your concerns. I’d like to address the points you’ve raised to clarify any misunderstandings about my contributions and intentions. | |||
Off-wiki evidence strongly indicates ] has a conflict (beyond his declaration on his userpage) about musician-related subjects. On-wiki evidence such as the edit summary on the creation of ] and uploads of probable family pictures shows ] is writing COI about dancer-related subjects. Crossover between the two editors on ] on 22 September 2010 exists for unknown reasons. ] (]) 21:35, 18 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:First, while my account may appear to have a narrow focus, my goal has always been to ensure that articles on Misplaced Pages adhere to its principles of neutrality, verifiability, and reliable sourcing. My edits related to John Ortberg and related topics are aimed at upholding these standards, not promoting or censoring information. If there are specific examples where you believe I’ve violated these principles, I welcome a constructive discussion to address them. | |||
:Second, regarding my consultation with John Ortberg: I acknowledge that I have communicated with him, as I’ve disclosed on my user talk page. However, my involvement has been strictly limited to ensuring that edits align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and reflect accurate information. | |||
:Third, concerning the comments about Daniel Lavery, I understand how sensitive these matters are. My intent was not to disparage anyone, and if any of my remarks were perceived as inappropriate, please bring them to my attention. | |||
:I'd also like to express my disappointment in your accusing me via direct message of treating you like "idiots". That felt like a curt, uncalled for accusation with little to no dialogue or support. You have not engaged in a discussion with me but clearly expressed your desire to see me blocked for little to no good reason I can discern. | |||
:Finally, regarding warnings from other editors: I value feedback and strive to learn from it. I am more than willing to engage in dialogue to resolve disputes and improve the quality of articles. If there are ongoing concerns about my edits, I encourage the use of formal dispute resolution processes so we can work collaboratively toward a solution. ] (]) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Is that AI generated text? I ran it through a few different detectors and most thought that it was at least partially AI generated. ] (]) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Unbelievable. Indeffed. Thank you, ]. ] | ] 20:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC). | |||
== Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation == | |||
*Marion Rice at least is not just notable but famous. Some or all of the others are also notable. There may be a coi, but to me the articles do not seem promotional. ''']''' (]) 18:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::My comments here were strictly to the COI aspect of the articles and the editors. — ] (]) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Coolguy365 == | |||
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Suspected undisclosed COI editors. Single-purpose accounts used exclusively to edit on this person and his foundation. All of the edits are complimentary, and almost entirely unsourced. | |||
Something very odd here involving a vanished user. I'm not sure if that's a violation in and of itself, but the occurrence of articles that have already been subject to COIN scrutiny is not encouraging. Note that Vanished user... started editing a few minutes after the IP from a now blocked webhost. Sandbox hijinks going on with Coolguy365. I kind of stopped pulling on the thread after some well-known articles started appearing, so this list is nowhere near comprehensive. | |||
Worth mentioning, ] made an odd an unexplained edit , blanking Tiburon Incorporated; at the time it was Coolguy's sandbox. Possible retaliation for blanking on another fishy corp article created by Arr4. Arr4 is also mentioned in another active investigation at this noticeboard, to which he/she has not responded, though was actively editing less than 24 hours before was . Arr4 was also active on ] around the same time as Coolguy, and there appears to be coordinated editing on ]. | |||
There was mutual sandbox editing on something called Culinaire International . | |||
] is a sneaky recreation of ]. One of the IPs appears to be aware of its existence as shown by edit to his alma mater. I have added ] the creator of the new version to this case, but the old version was <s>pretty dirty with COI edits as well</s> created via undisclosed paid editing. — ] (]) 22:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Turns out that Vanished user was created as a deceptive name, he wasn't vanished at all. Details here: ]. Thought this might be relevant to this discussion. — ] (]) 17:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
Sorry for my late reply, I was busy in our ] celebration. Coolguy365 is undoubtedly a paid editor. That blanking by me was only retaliation/biting when I discovered that cool guy is a paid editor. I had bitten many other paid editors in this way to avoid my being caught by COIN. - ] (]) 07:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:{{Ping|Arr4}} Is there evidence you'd like to share with us? — ] (]) 14:19, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Everymedia.in == | |||
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* {{la|EveryMedia Technologies}} | |||
* {{la|Sajid Khan (director)}} — one of many Bollywood edits | |||
* {{la|Ferriswheel Entertainment}} | |||
* {{la|Shubhra Bhardwaj}} — exec at Ferriswheel | |||
* {{la|Prime Focus}} | |||
* {{userlinks|AayushyaBajpai}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Nikitanayak everymedia}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Kabir Vaghela}} — definite COI per links on userpage | |||
* {{iplinks|103.19.198.78}} Blazenet Technoilogies Ahmedabad | |||
* {{iplinks|103.16.70.141}} Gatik Business Solutions Bangalore | |||
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Cooperation of editors above suggests a commercial connection. One editor's name probably refers to everymedia.in, a marketing company. The other has asked me personally how to write about PrimeFocus Technologies, a perennial COI magnet. A quick perusal of contribs points to extensive COI editing related to Indian cinema. ] (]) 17:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I'm kind of burned out now but if somebody wants to pick at the scab, ] would be a good starting point. ] is there for starters. — ] (]) 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
*{{u|Kabir Vaghela}} also has a COI with respect to ] which came out at that articles AfD so he is very well aware of out COI policies. If he is doing more COI editing it indicates to me that he does not take on board community input. ]] 18:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Final note from me, ] by ] was apparently recreated by same ed as ]. Not the action of a GF editor. — ] (]) 18:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Robert Gerald Lorge == | |||
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There have been repeated attempts by ] and IPs over the course of the past week to add unsourced information to this article about a would-be politician. They have ignored warnings to cease and desist (], ]). Today the subject of the article made . The changes are mostly unsourced or sourced to the subject's self-published campaign pages. The subject also removed information about an election loss. Given the persistent disruptive editing, I'm requesting some help in dealing with this. ] (]) 18:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:He has also started in his father's article, removing information supported by reliable sources. ] (]) 18:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree with 32.218.32.146, it has been frustrating removing uncited materials in the articles only to be put back in. Thank you-] (]) 18:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::The subject article was deleted following an AfD and the user was blocked for making legal threats. This may bubble up again in some other form but for now there's nothing left to it. ] (]) 20:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Dag Creative Media and others == | |||
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* {{la|Koushik Roy}} | |||
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* {{la|Dag Creative Media}} | |||
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* {{userlinks|Raju Kapuria}} - created every article above between May 2015 and July 2015 | |||
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] has made no declarations but apparently is creating paid stuff. The way corp articles come into being complete with infobox company and such is reminiscent of farms we've seen here before. — ] (]) 19:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
: Seems like a sock of ] <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Blur Group == | |||
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Please see this recent advert: | |||
I thought it might be useful to raise it here for consideration so that we can give Blur Group a clear idea of what is appropriate for Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 11:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Rocket Internet == | |||
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**{{la|Draft:Kaymu}} - yes there is also a draft | |||
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* {{la|Sacha Poignonnec}} - CEO | |||
* {{la|Jeremy Hodara}} - exec | |||
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* {{userlinks|Maxb42}} - created Rocket, one-time throwaway account | |||
* {{userlinks|Lena Ortmann}} - created execs, draft:Kaymu | |||
* {{userlinks|WMKT fr}} - created Jovago, spammed a bunch of articles with jovago.com | |||
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* {{userlinks|Hariskhan12345}} - created Kaymu Pakistan | |||
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The Nigerian dot-com startup scene is a fascinating subject documented at ]. Unfortunately, billion-dollar IPOs plus shady business practices equals lots of COI articles on Misplaced Pages. I've listed here ] and several of its creations. The list of SPA editors probably is quite extensive, I've just tapped a few here. {{ping|Garchy}} you nominated the executive articles for speedy deletion. — ] (]) 14:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
Addendum. ] may have been compromised by undisclosed, conflicted editors. {{ping|DGG}} you nominated the article for deletion. — ] (]) 15:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::The problem, as usual with such articles, was whether the references were truly substantial, independent, and reliable. For many articles, fair people can think either way. In past years, I would usually give articles the benefit of the doubt. Now, for articles on companies, especially new companies, I increasingly think the opposite. For this particular article, I continue to consider the references (except possibly PCWorld) either general with merely a mention of the company or essentially press releases, & many of them from unreliable sources. But a really good press agent can get reliable sources to write respectable articles, and once there is a buzz in even the unreliable press, reliable sources tend to cover it. Our rules are inevitably helpless against such methods, because we must reflect the Real World, which is full of promotion and unreliability. (Incidentally, I just removed a list of the miscellaneous products they sell, which I considered a promotional product catalog.) If someone wants to renominate it, I'll comment. | |||
::More generally, perhaps every author of an article on a company should be required to certify in a positive way they have no financial connection. This might have more deterrent value than merely a rule against it. ''']''' (]) 16:32, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::I just placed a tag for merging Kaymu Bangladesh to Kaymu. ''']''' (]) 17:13, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Black House Media == | |||
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Nigerian public relations company, its CEO and a possibly related newspaper and its owner. Making inquiries to editors. ] (]) 15:00, 22 July 2015 (UTC) Added ] owned by BHM group, some of the same involved editors. ] (]) 15:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::I just placed afds for Ayeni and NOGIntelligence. ''']''' (]) 17:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|DGG}} I think you meant you nominated ] and ]. {{ping|Tchaliburton}} You nominated Remi Aiyela for speedy deletion, care to comment? — ] (]) 17:20, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Yep. Ayeni is notable. ''']''' (]) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Declared COI at ] == | |||
*{{userlinks | Benson adrienne}} | |||
*{{la | Skyy Vodka}} | |||
SPA with declared COI: "I work with an agency on behalf of Campari America and want to point out the below facts that are not fully represented on the page as it. Appreciate if an unbiased editor can implement these changes." Ref: ]. They're being careful and haven't done anything bad yet. They just want to put PR-type product info in the article. Please watch. Thanks. ] (]) 06:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I cleaned out some promotional wordings/content in the article, and added the <nowiki>{{request edit}}</nowiki> template so the users request will show up in ]. -- ] ] ] 07:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Aleksandar olic and Active Collab == | |||
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Aleksandar olic is an employee of the company that sells Active Collab, wrote our article on it, and has been steadily adding wikiliks to it on other pages. No response to the warning I put on his talk page. --] (]) 09:54, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
I tried to stay as neutral as possible. Would be glad to see someone more experienced edit the Active Collab article. I disclosed that I work there, so it should be edited by someone who doesn't have an affiliation. Any help appreciated. I added "Request edit" but it got removed. --] (]) 10:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
: Hi Aleksandar. I removed the Request edit template from the article, because it should be only on the talk page. Please feel free to post to ] with edit requests. Thanks! -- ] ] ] 10:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::...aaand he went right back to editing the page where he has a COI, less than an hour after saying "it should be edited by someone who doesn't have an affiliation." --] (]) 01:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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A lengthy and badly POV edit to the article was made by a self-declared PUD commissioner and stands since 2012. I'd like to recuse myself from editing this one. ] (]) 15:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I'll give this a copy edit tomorrow morning. ] (]) 21:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Carmen Busquets == | |||
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Women's fashion is too far outside my expertise to make a good judgement on this, but this person does appear notable, with at least one full NYT story about her. However the article looks heavily non-NPOV and has been maintained by one or more questionable anon editors, and one declared COI editor . Also I haven't fully developed this, but I think on eLance to create a profile of a new enterprise and its CEO may be related to Busquets. Could some other folks have a look? ] (]) 19:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Woodland Meadows == | |||
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The article was a direct result of . Same client posted about a book they are writing on Woodland Meadows. Same elance contractor features ] in his portfolio; almost certain socking going on here ... see prior investigations ] and ]. — ] (]) 20:27, 24 July 2015 (UTC) Posted to SPI as a recurrence of ]. ] (]) 20:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:COIN team please note that since ]/] and his known socks were blocked on 8 May, the Elance account has taken 7 or 8 more jobs. Every single one of his jobs before or after 8 May either are explicitly Misplaced Pages edits, or are "private" and probable Misplaced Pages edits. So there's some buried stuff here still to be found. — ] (]) 20:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
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User:Boniafashion is a ], making edits exclusively on ], unexplained except for one terse edit summary. Clearly seems COI based on ] and the promotional tone of the edits, and has not responsed to talk page messages. Instead, there was a recent reintroduction of a promtional timeline . ] (]) 22:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== ] staff == | |||
Given the controversy, we should give all the affected users' work a once over | |||
These users have also declared employment by ]'s ] : | |||
I warned Channy Jung () and 203.239.154.130 () but both have continued editing ] and have ignored the warning (, ). Chisu1020 has been inactive for a while though, but same pattern of behavior. | |||
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I recently rewrote ] entirely to get rid of the unsourced promotional-like writing . State of article before the rewrite: . | |||
{{userlinks|Blue56349}} | |||
Also worth noting the is similarly fluffy. I suspect Park/his foundation are watching these articles. | |||
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== Misplaced Pages Writers Marks a Milestone with 1,000 Successful Misplaced Pages Page Publications == | |||
A sub-issue: | |||
Well, that's what they ''say'' on openpr.com. For the interested. I was going to link it, but my edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a ] or ]. Despite that, it seems to have some WP-presence: ] (]) 12:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
===Disclosures need work=== | |||
None of the COI disclosures seem adequate; the ToU require "...you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive..." | |||
From : | |||
{{tq|If you have been hired by a public relations firm to edit Misplaced Pages, you must disclose both the firm and the firm's client.}} | |||
I request these users be blocked unless or until their disclosures meet this minimum requirement, in order to prevent further damage. Requests/warnings like have been insufficient. | |||
Also, perhaps a template is needed, use of which could he suggested at ] --]<sup>(]•])</sup> 23:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC) |
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This Day on Bella Disu
I am trying to cut promotional content from Bella Disu. This Day seems like a "reliable source". However, looking at the content they've published, I'm concerned that this newspaper may have a conflict of interest when it comes to her/her billionaire family.
- A Daughter in a Million: The Amazing Exploits of Belinda Disu in Busines
- Super Woman…When Bella Adenuga Stormed Kigali In A Grand Style
- France Honours Bella Disu with Prestigious National Honour
- Abumet Nigeria Appoints Belinda Ajoke Disu Chairman
- Mike Adenuga Centre: Another Promise Kept!
In fact, many of the sources used in the article seem like the kind of thing a billionaire in a country like Nigeria probably paid someone to write but I am not sure how to handle this. 🄻🄰 08:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe best to raise the issue at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard (WP:RSN). Users there may be able to confirm your concerns or perhaps could point you in the direction of a list of WP:RS and non-RS sources within the Nigerian media. Hope this helps. Axad12 (talk) 12:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just a brief follow-up to say that there is actually a current thread at WP:RSN in relation to the reliability of Nigerian newspapers (here ) which may be of assistance to the user who opened this thread. It seems that the existence of sponsored content in Nigerian newspapers is a widespread problem. Regards, Axad12 (talk) 04:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have run across a new editor who has created many articles based on these Nigerian sources. At first I thought it was a conflict of interest but now I am not so sure (but probably a conflict of interest with at least one of the subjects). I have moved the new articles to draft. Special:Contributions/Akpakipoki 🄻🄰 17:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just a brief follow-up to say that there is actually a current thread at WP:RSN in relation to the reliability of Nigerian newspapers (here ) which may be of assistance to the user who opened this thread. It seems that the existence of sponsored content in Nigerian newspapers is a widespread problem. Regards, Axad12 (talk) 04:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Taeyasu/Sample page
- User:Taeyasu/Sample page (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Taeyasu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Trendalchemy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Dpatrioli (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
3 accounts with no contributions except to write promotional-sounding article User:Taeyasu/Sample page. Notably:
- "Trend Alchemy" appears to be the name of a PR firm in Italy
- The Trendalchemy account became inactive after being informed of paid-editing policy
- The Dpatrioli account was created afterward and has not disclosed COI status.
I'd take this to SPI but the third account hasn't made any edits since I posted on its talk page. Thought I'd get a few more eyes on this in case the pattern continues. --Richard Yin (talk) 01:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I recently attempted to get the material speedy deleted under WP:G11 but this was declined due to the material not being considered "unambiguously promotional".
- Presumably an attempt will be made at some point in the near future to introduce the article into mainspace. At that point, at a minimum, the elements of the article which clearly are promotional should be removed, and an undeclared PAID template added. Possibly the material should be draftified.
- However, what concerns me is that it seems reasonable to assume that the Trendalchemy account (plus the other accounts above) appears to have links to a PR firm and the draft material is currently titled "Sample page". The material is not in the user's sandbox or being curated as a draft, it appears to be a sample of the work of a PR agency displayed on the user page of that PR agency. That being the case, I do personally believe that deletion under G11 would have been appropriate as a userspace clearly should not be being abused in this way, as per WP:UP#PROMO (i.e. prescribed material includes
Advertising or promotion of business
). I'd invite input from SD0001 on the grounds for them declining the G11. Axad12 (talk) 13:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)- G11 is for unambiguous promotion which it isn't. COI is not a rationale for speedy deletion either. WP:MfD is thataway if you want it to be deleted. – SD0001 (talk) 13:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that it is not unambiguous promotion of the company which is the subject of the article (a company called "Translated").
- However, it is most definitely unambiguous promotion of the PR firm who created the material because the material is titled as being a sample of the work of that PR firm and it is presented on the userpage of that PR firm.
- Or do you believe that PR firms post samples of their work online for reasons other than unambiguous self-promotion? Axad12 (talk) 14:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- UPDATE: I resubmitted the material for speedy deletion and it was deleted by a different user. Axad12 (talk) 15:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- G11 is for unambiguous promotion which it isn't. COI is not a rationale for speedy deletion either. WP:MfD is thataway if you want it to be deleted. – SD0001 (talk) 13:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Update: See Dpatrioli's message and my reply on my talk page here. --Richard Yin (talk) 11:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- As just replied to @Richard Yin, and to give here with some more elements for your evaluation, this is what happened:
- 1) Trendalchemy , Dpatrioli are not representing any PR Agency, they both work at Translatedin the Communication department. You may find evidence here
- 2) @Taeyasu is an independent writer, and he has been hired to help us to write this article about Translated. He is not representing a PR agency but he is been paid by Translated for this task.
- 3) The main reason for the "speedy delete" request of the page was that the author/contributors were suspected to be a PR agency promoting itself with this page; the material, as I see in the talk history, has not been considered "unambiguously promotional".
- We are new to produce contents here. But we decided to write this page and we made a draft, this wasn't finished. The page was meant to describe what has been the contribution of Translated in the last 20 years in the development of the Transformer applied to the AI and, more specifically, to Machine Translation advancements. The company developed a number of technologies available to the public, some of them free, and we believe it's notably and there is a huge number of third parties sources to mention that.
- Thanks for the input, in case we publish again material we'll sure specify the proper COI. Dpatrioli (talk) 14:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The draft was not considered to be "unambiguously promotional" but elements of it were certainly highly promotional in intent.
- I see the evidence that Dpatrioli works for Translated, but no evidence that Trendalchemy works for Translated. Trend Alchemy is a PR firm. Axad12 (talk) 15:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Axad12 Trendalchemy is not actually a company, is a laboratory, and the founder is Patrizia Boglione. Check this page on trendalchemy website where it's written: "I am now the Brand & Creative VP of Translated, one of the most innovative tech-companies in the translation industry that combines the best artificial intelligence with a network of 200,000 translators." Patrizia is the same person mentioned here in the website of Translated.
- As far as "but elements of it were certainly highly promotional in intent", I understand where you come from, and we'll try to make it right, but I believe we can make a page where there's a relevant story for the audience (and I think there's one), then if I write something wrong, questionable, or with inappropriate sources, well it will be the public to correct or to modify it. From my side, I can write what I know from my angle (including declaring COI), it would be odd if I write something with the intent of discredit the company I work for. Dpatrioli (talk) 16:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Trend Alchemy website states that
Our products and services include Trend Report, New Brand Narratives, Future Brand Strategies, Brand Coaching, Custom Brand & Trend workshops, Trend Talks.
There can therefore be little doubt that it is, broadly speaking, a PR company. - Also, Misplaced Pages is not about making
a page where there's a relevant story for the audience
. This is an encyclopaedia, not an opportunity for marketing operatives to install a narrative. For further info on this please see WP:BYENOW. Axad12 (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)- That's very useful, thank you 2.236.115.127 (talk) 19:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Trend Alchemy website states that
Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) and Fort Lauderdale Strikers
- Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Amplifyplantz33 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) and numerous Fort Lauderdale Strikers (1988–1994) related articles, which Antonopoulos appears to have been a player for, have been edited by Amplifyplantz33. The user seems to be Antonopoulos and received a notice to disclose their conflict of interest on December 4 by @Sammi Brie. The user did not respond and does not appear to have made an effort to disclose a conflict of interest as they are required to. The user also created the Antonopoulos article and is responsible for the majority of the content added to it. The only indication the user appears to have made to disclose their potential conflict of interest was to write "Chris Antonopoulos" on their user page. Raskuly (talk) 07:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've removed a lot of unsourced material from the Antonopoulos article, but clearly the problems here extend rather further than that. Axad12 (talk) 15:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The user has now denied on their talk page that they are Antonopoulos. It must be admitted, however, that they appear to be a WP:SPA dedicated solely to promoting Antonopoulos and mentioning him on as many articles as possible.
- It seems unclear whether the user has a COI or is just a fan who is unaware of the policies on sourcing and promotion.
- Any thoughts on whether Antonopoulos satisfies WP:GNG and whether detailed info on beach soccer activities is usually considered suitable for inclusion? Axad12 (talk) 15:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- It seems unlikely that they would be so obsessed with Antonopoulos if they were not either him or someone closely associated with him, and their response is quite odd. There does appear to be a Chris Antonopoulos who signed a professional contract with the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and to me that satisfies notability as the beach soccer and pre-professional soccer contract section of his career would not make Antonopoulos notable enough to have an article alone. It is of note that Antonopoulos does not appear to have been the primary goalkeeper during his tenure and that the primary goalkeepers were Jorge Valenzuela, Mario Jimenez, and Jim St. Andre at this time. It appears Antonopoulos only made two appearances between 1993 and 1994 which is when he was apparently signed to the team. From the perspective of someone who was not directly involved with the Strikers but would want to write about them, Valenzuela and Jimenez would probably be higher on the priority list than a goalkeeper who only made two appearances. The only parts about Antonopoulos in the article that are specific to him are praising his accomplishments. Raskuly (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed 100%. Axad12 (talk) 22:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally, the photos that the user have all uploaded appear to indicate that whoever is writing the article had close connections with Antonopoulos throughout his career if they in fact have the right to upload them. Raskuly (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The user continues to obsess over this article and to add large amounts of trivial non-encyclopaedic detail and generally promotional material. Are we really sure that the subject satisfies WP:GNG? Axad12 (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I generally go by pro athletes being notable enough to have an article, but Antonopoulos appears to have barely been a pro athlete, and like I brought up with the writer before they accused me of acting uncivil, it would make more sense to write articles about Antonopoulos' teammates. I'm not in favor of having an article on Misplaced Pages who's express purpose is to promote someone, even if they may meet the requirement of general notability. This is the first time I've dealt with an issue like this, so I apologize if I am not understanding things correctly as to what makes someone notable enough. Raskuly (talk) 01:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Article is notable. And I deem there's a consensus to proceed with option #1 - tag the 2 pages. RememberOrwell (talk) 22:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I generally go by pro athletes being notable enough to have an article, but Antonopoulos appears to have barely been a pro athlete, and like I brought up with the writer before they accused me of acting uncivil, it would make more sense to write articles about Antonopoulos' teammates. I'm not in favor of having an article on Misplaced Pages who's express purpose is to promote someone, even if they may meet the requirement of general notability. This is the first time I've dealt with an issue like this, so I apologize if I am not understanding things correctly as to what makes someone notable enough. Raskuly (talk) 01:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- The user continues to obsess over this article and to add large amounts of trivial non-encyclopaedic detail and generally promotional material. Are we really sure that the subject satisfies WP:GNG? Axad12 (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Additionally, the photos that the user have all uploaded appear to indicate that whoever is writing the article had close connections with Antonopoulos throughout his career if they in fact have the right to upload them. Raskuly (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed 100%. Axad12 (talk) 22:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- It seems unlikely that they would be so obsessed with Antonopoulos if they were not either him or someone closely associated with him, and their response is quite odd. There does appear to be a Chris Antonopoulos who signed a professional contract with the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and to me that satisfies notability as the beach soccer and pre-professional soccer contract section of his career would not make Antonopoulos notable enough to have an article alone. It is of note that Antonopoulos does not appear to have been the primary goalkeeper during his tenure and that the primary goalkeepers were Jorge Valenzuela, Mario Jimenez, and Jim St. Andre at this time. It appears Antonopoulos only made two appearances between 1993 and 1994 which is when he was apparently signed to the team. From the perspective of someone who was not directly involved with the Strikers but would want to write about them, Valenzuela and Jimenez would probably be higher on the priority list than a goalkeeper who only made two appearances. The only parts about Antonopoulos in the article that are specific to him are praising his accomplishments. Raskuly (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Adolph Jentsch
- Adolph Jentsch (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- username (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
There is an IP editor who is repeatedly entering non-encyclopedic text, such as this diff. I've reversed him once but he then sent me several abusive emails accusing me of article ownership, so I don't want to reverse him again. I cannot give him a COIN notice because he uses different IPs every time he edits. Can someone other than me please remove the edit and perhaps protect the article from IP edits? Thanks! Ratel 🌼 (talk) 05:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- You can request page protection at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. -- Pemilligan (talk) 14:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Conflict of interest - Veeranjaneyulu Viharayatra Article
- Veeranjaneyulu Viharayatra (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Anurag Palutla (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Veeranjaneyulu Viharayatra, I think there is a conflict of interest here. The director himself has created an account and working on the article - Herodyswaroop (talk) 08:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
The Article was intitated by @udaywrites and is getting expanded by @anuragpatla. Who are the crew of the film. Herodyswaroop (talk) 08:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Vanskere
- Vanskere (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Evans Akere (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Iamtoxima (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This editor is screaming conflict of interest to me. Both articles have been tagged as promotional utilizing WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA, I have nominated them for deletion. As you can see on the user talk page, they have been asked about conflict of interest without a response. They also posted asking about how to make Google index their brand's article. Their primary other edit was to add the brand to Fashion in Nigeria. 🄻🄰 18:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Upon further investigation looking at the user's linked social media, the brand page in question is listed as one of their clients. 🄻🄰 18:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Marc Jorgenson
No edits since 2008. No need for action. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- Marc Jorgenson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Plus3db (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Lexicon480 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Bunny & J-Zone (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 24.82.146.94 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 24.82.146.152 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 24.86.250.211 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Blatantly promotional article and severe failure of WP:NOTPROMO with puffery removed by users before. 3 single-purpose accounts as well as 3 IPs of close proximity have edited the article in around 2008. There definitely is signs of paid editing or people connected with subject editing the article, so a block of these users and IPs should suffice alongside the deletion of the article. MimirIsSmart (talk) 06:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.Ilyas El Maliki
- Ilyas El Maliki (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Draft:Ilyas El Maliki (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- IMDB12 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Saileishere (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I think the two users are the same person and probably work for El Maliki to write the article. 🄻🄰 22:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- The photo of El Maliki was uploaded by User:MoroccanEd 🄻🄰 22:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Lindy Li
- Lindy Li (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Napoleonjosephine2020 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
User Napoleonjosephine2020 has been registered since 2020 and has almost exclusively edited Lindy Li's page. Since Kamala Harris has lost the US Presidential election, Li, previously a stalwart Biden/Harris partisan has made multiple appearances on TV attacking the Democratic Party and has seemingly declared she has left the Democratic Party. Several users (including myself) have edited Li's page to include these recent news stories. Napoleonjosephine2020, whose edit/user history shows her praising Li in laudatory terms, has repeatedly objected to inclusion of this information, deriding it as minor and irrelevant. Napoleonjosephine2020 has also engaged in personal attacks against other users and acted combative. Multiple unregistered IP addresses starting with 2601:41:4300:9370 (presumably coming from the same location) have also removed these edits, with a writing style similar to Napoleonjosepine2020, accusing other users of bad faith and using the same rationales for why this information should not be included. Napoleonjosephine2020 has been subject to temporary editing restrictions due to their disruptive editing, I suspect these unregistered IP addresses are Napoleonjosephine2020 making edits outside their account so that their registered account is not subject to further sanctions for disruptive editing.
Given this pattern of behavior, I think the evidence points to Napoleonjosephine2020 having a personal connection to the subject, with an interest in violating NPOV leading them to repeatedly engage in disruptive editing/edit warring.Vosotros32 (talk) 01:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vosotros32: Prior to your filing report here, the article was already semi-protected until March 2, and the editor in question was indefinitely pblocked from editing that article. I'm not sure what more you think this report is going to accomplish. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
State University of New York at Geneseo
Soft blocked for promotional username representing Geneseo's Communications and Marketing (CommMark) team. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- State University of New York at Geneseo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- CommMark1871 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This editor has only edited the college's article, their username indicates a potential connection ("Comms" may indicate a role in communications at the college and 1871 is the date when the college official opened), and they have not responded to a brief but direct question on their User Talk page about this potential connection. Their edits are not objectionable but WP:PAID is not optional and our conflict of interest guideline exists for good reasons. ElKevbo (talk) 23:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.Kathryn Babayan
- Kathryn Babayan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- 2601:401:100:46E0:B919:9891:DF5D:FC9F (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 2601:401:100:46E0:E169:2FC9:4E47:B104 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Kathryn Babayan was an academic article I made two weeks ago. As of the past 24 hours, there is an IP editor on a rotating IP address that has been making wholesale wording changes to the article. Some of the changes are okay, more detailed than I had been, but I'm wondering if they're edging into promotional territory for her books. I tried asking the first version of the IP editor if they were Babayan themselves, which I feel is likely, but I received no response. And they're back to making changes just now with a different IP.
Suggestions on what should be done? Silverseren 22:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- The BLP is bloated with puffery and sources. It should be shortened substantially. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
- This is how it was before the IP changed things, which I think was a good summary of her work. No idea what you're talking about with the sources however. There are technically only 9 in use in the article, with only one of which being a primary source from her university page. Silverseren 01:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Just revert to the last good version before the IP started editing. If the user continues to edit the article then revert them again and request page protection at WP:RPPI. Axad12 (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- K. I've gone ahead and made the revert, though I kept the lede change the IP made. Since I think that was actually an improvement. Silverseren 01:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Article has now been protected to prevent further disruptive editing . With thanks, Axad12 (talk) 17:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- K. I've gone ahead and made the revert, though I kept the lede change the IP made. Since I think that was actually an improvement. Silverseren 01:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Just revert to the last good version before the IP started editing. If the user continues to edit the article then revert them again and request page protection at WP:RPPI. Axad12 (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is how it was before the IP changed things, which I think was a good summary of her work. No idea what you're talking about with the sources however. There are technically only 9 in use in the article, with only one of which being a primary source from her university page. Silverseren 01:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Captain Beany
- CaptainBeany (talk · contribs · logs)
User:CaptainBeany has been editing the Captain Beany article a few times over the past 16 years, as well as other edits related to the subject's novelty political party and former museum. They've made no edits outside of this.
In 2010 they identified themselves as the subject and asked for a sourced paragraph about a fraud conviction to be removed from the article. Discussions in response at Editor Assistance and BLPN decided that this was appropriate biographical content and should not be removed.
I posted a belated COI message on their talk page last year, after noticing the issue's history when working on the article: User:CaptainBeany had removed the paragraph in 2016, with nobody realising. The user didn't respond to the talk page template, and today they removed the paragraph again. Belbury (talk) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The user replied to the COIN notification, though exactly what they're trying to communicate is beyond me. --Richard Yin (talk) 05:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Science of Identity Foundation
No substantial evidence indicating a conflict of interest has been presented in this complaint. As such, I am closing this discussion as groundless/failing to state a case.When filing at this board, Sokoreq is reminded to explicitly state the reasons that they believe a conflict of interest (as defined in WP:COI). In particular, it is important to to avoid casting aspersions by making complaints here while failing to state a reasonable case to conclude that a COI exists. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- Science of Identity Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Hipal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This senior editor reverting my constructive edits repeatedly, in which I created a new section to simplify the content and cited reference. However, it appears that the editor is maintaining the article and may have a conflict of interest. Even though I have warned the editor, but now editor has started an edit war. Sokoreq (talk) 18:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sokoreq, why haven't you attempted to discuss this at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation first? Schazjmd (talk) 18:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Looking over the talk page and edits, I don't see anything suggesting Hipal has a COI. Nor do I see anything to evidence that Sokoreq has a vested interest in editing the article, although it is curious that they went straight to the noticeboard without participating in the talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @C.Fred You are right, I was surprised that the editor keeps reverting my edits. This behavior suggests editor may have conflicts of interest or feel a sense of ownership of the page. Sokoreq (talk) 19:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Reverting your edits is evidence that they disagree with you, which is allowed. Disagreeing with you is in no way evidence of a conflict of interest. MrOllie (talk) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MrOllie Yeh, I agree with you, but how many times ? And why? did you check my edit ? The editor was doing endless reverts, even after I requested clarification about their concerns on the talk page. Sokoreq (talk) 20:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You were also 'doing endless reverts'. Do you have a conflict of interest? MrOllie (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Did you check my edit? What is wrong with that edit? I would like to know so that I can improve myself for next time. Please be specific. Thanks Sokoreq (talk) 20:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You can improve yourself for next time by recognizing that reverts are a normal part of Misplaced Pages's editing process (see WP:BRD), and by refraining from making unfounded accusations towards other editors just because they reverted you. MrOllie (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I followed WP:BRD, but the editor didn't adhere to the discussion part: 'Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement.' Anyway, did you check my edit that the editor reverted several times? That would be really helpful. Sokoreq (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, you began edit warring after you were reverted. That is not following WP:BRD. And you still have not posted at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation. MrOllie (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The editor reverted my edits without any explanation and did so repeatedly. I am still waiting for your insight. Did you check my edit? What mistake did I make? I want to understand; any help would be appreciated. Sokoreq (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some of the mistakes that you made were edit warring and posting spurious talk page warnings (and now a noticeboard entry) rather than discussing your edits on the article's associated talk page. I'm not going to contribute to compounding those errors by debating the content with you here. If you want to continue with this, I would suggest that you withdraw the allegations you have made against Hipal, including the spurious vandalism, COI, and harrassment warnings you placed on their talk page, apologize to Hipal, and then go to Talk:Science of Identity Foundation where active discussions are currently taking place without your participation. MrOllie (talk) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are trying to make it seem like it's my fault only, and you are missing the point. Anyway, thanks; I have already explained my COI concern below. Sokoreq (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some of the mistakes that you made were edit warring and posting spurious talk page warnings (and now a noticeboard entry) rather than discussing your edits on the article's associated talk page. I'm not going to contribute to compounding those errors by debating the content with you here. If you want to continue with this, I would suggest that you withdraw the allegations you have made against Hipal, including the spurious vandalism, COI, and harrassment warnings you placed on their talk page, apologize to Hipal, and then go to Talk:Science of Identity Foundation where active discussions are currently taking place without your participation. MrOllie (talk) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The editor reverted my edits without any explanation and did so repeatedly. I am still waiting for your insight. Did you check my edit? What mistake did I make? I want to understand; any help would be appreciated. Sokoreq (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, you began edit warring after you were reverted. That is not following WP:BRD. And you still have not posted at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation. MrOllie (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I followed WP:BRD, but the editor didn't adhere to the discussion part: 'Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement.' Anyway, did you check my edit that the editor reverted several times? That would be really helpful. Sokoreq (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You can improve yourself for next time by recognizing that reverts are a normal part of Misplaced Pages's editing process (see WP:BRD), and by refraining from making unfounded accusations towards other editors just because they reverted you. MrOllie (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Did you check my edit? What is wrong with that edit? I would like to know so that I can improve myself for next time. Please be specific. Thanks Sokoreq (talk) 20:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You were also 'doing endless reverts'. Do you have a conflict of interest? MrOllie (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MrOllie Yeh, I agree with you, but how many times ? And why? did you check my edit ? The editor was doing endless reverts, even after I requested clarification about their concerns on the talk page. Sokoreq (talk) 20:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Reverting your edits is evidence that they disagree with you, which is allowed. Disagreeing with you is in no way evidence of a conflict of interest. MrOllie (talk) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @C.Fred You are right, I was surprised that the editor keeps reverting my edits. This behavior suggests editor may have conflicts of interest or feel a sense of ownership of the page. Sokoreq (talk) 19:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Schazjmd Already, there is a lot going on in that talk page. Sokoreq (talk) 18:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sokoreq I agree that it's daunting. However, you don't get to override discussion by jumping straight to a noticeboard, and especially not COIN.—C.Fred (talk) 18:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @C.Fred I apologize, but the editor's behavior was strange and did not make any sense. Now, after seeing the article history, it looks like the editor has a sense of ownership or maybe a conflict of interest. other than that, I don't have any other evidence to prove the COI. I leave the final decision to you, but now I am feeling Anxious about whether I should touch that article because it seems like that editor owns it. This is strange! Sokoreq (talk) 19:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sokoreq I agree that it's daunting. However, you don't get to override discussion by jumping straight to a noticeboard, and especially not COIN.—C.Fred (talk) 18:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Looking over the talk page and edits, I don't see anything suggesting Hipal has a COI. Nor do I see anything to evidence that Sokoreq has a vested interest in editing the article, although it is curious that they went straight to the noticeboard without participating in the talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think this can be closed as a groundless complaint. Sokoreq has continued to edit since opening this complaint but has yet to try to discuss the edits in question at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation. No evidence has been provided for conflict of interest, other than the OP's apparent assumption that there is no other possible reason that their edits would be reverted. Schazjmd (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Kateblau
- Kateblau (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Multiple draft creations of spammy company articles in a relatively short period of time:
- Draft:Aethon Inc
- Draft:Soil Machine Dynamics Ltd
- Draft:ULC Robotics
- Draft:IAM Robotics
- Draft:CANVAS Technology
- Draft:Bot & Dolly
- Draft:Titan Medical Inc
Received a COI notice January 5th but has continued to edit without declaring any COI. Spencer 02:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- здравствуйте! я создаю статьи о компаниях по киборгизации и автоматизации, научных деятелей в этой области, это будет сделано в короткий промежуток времени, потому что проделана большая аналитическая работа по данным компаниям и я загружаю уже составленную ранее информацию, это не реклама, я допустил несколько ошибок, потому что впервые на википедии как автор, пожалуйста, я могу дальше создавать страницы? Kateblau (talk) 18:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello! I am creating articles about companies in cyborgization and automation, scientific figures in this field, this will be done in a short period of time, because a lot of analytical work has been done on these companies and I am uploading previously compiled information, this is not advertising, I made several mistakes, because this is my first time on Misplaced Pages as an author, can I please continue to create pages? Kateblau (talk) 18:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- It appears that you are using a LLM like ChatGPT to create these drafts, and that your own communications are machine translated. Is that true? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've deleted some of these; they all seem to be on the same pattern, making roughly the same claims. I assume LLM use at minimum. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
John Ortberg
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- Timothydw82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Timothydw82 is a Single Purpose Account which is used solely to promote, defend and censor valid information about John Ortberg. Timothydw82 admits to consulting with Ortberg about the article on User talk:Timothydw82 and has also used that page to make disparaging comments about Ortberg's son, Daniel Lavery. This is both a serious COI and POV problem. He has been warned before by other editors. My most recent warning (for POV editing) was met with what seems to be feigned incomprehension and "Do you work for Misplaced Pages?". I think it is time to put an end to this farce. DanielRigal (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing your concerns. I’d like to address the points you’ve raised to clarify any misunderstandings about my contributions and intentions.
- First, while my account may appear to have a narrow focus, my goal has always been to ensure that articles on Misplaced Pages adhere to its principles of neutrality, verifiability, and reliable sourcing. My edits related to John Ortberg and related topics are aimed at upholding these standards, not promoting or censoring information. If there are specific examples where you believe I’ve violated these principles, I welcome a constructive discussion to address them.
- Second, regarding my consultation with John Ortberg: I acknowledge that I have communicated with him, as I’ve disclosed on my user talk page. However, my involvement has been strictly limited to ensuring that edits align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and reflect accurate information.
- Third, concerning the comments about Daniel Lavery, I understand how sensitive these matters are. My intent was not to disparage anyone, and if any of my remarks were perceived as inappropriate, please bring them to my attention.
- I'd also like to express my disappointment in your accusing me via direct message of treating you like "idiots". That felt like a curt, uncalled for accusation with little to no dialogue or support. You have not engaged in a discussion with me but clearly expressed your desire to see me blocked for little to no good reason I can discern.
- Finally, regarding warnings from other editors: I value feedback and strive to learn from it. I am more than willing to engage in dialogue to resolve disputes and improve the quality of articles. If there are ongoing concerns about my edits, I encourage the use of formal dispute resolution processes so we can work collaboratively toward a solution. Timothydw82 (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Is that AI generated text? I ran it through a few different detectors and most thought that it was at least partially AI generated. DanielRigal (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unbelievable. Indeffed. Thank you, Daniel. Bishonen | tålk 20:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation
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- Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Park Hyeon-joo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Users:
- Channy Jung (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 203.239.154.130 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Chisu1020 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Suspected undisclosed COI editors. Single-purpose accounts used exclusively to edit on this person and his foundation. All of the edits are complimentary, and almost entirely unsourced.
I warned Channy Jung () and 203.239.154.130 () but both have continued editing Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation and have ignored the warning (Channy Jung edit, Channy Jung second edit IP edit). Chisu1020 has been inactive for a while though, but same pattern of behavior.
I recently rewrote Park Hyeon-joo entirely to get rid of the unsourced promotional-like writing . State of article before the rewrite: .
Also worth noting the kowiki version of Park's article is similarly fluffy. I suspect Park/his foundation are watching these articles.
seefooddiet (talk) 05:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Writers Marks a Milestone with 1,000 Successful Misplaced Pages Page Publications
Well, that's what they say on openpr.com. For the interested. I was going to link it, but my edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Misplaced Pages's blacklist or Wikimedia's global blacklist. Despite that, it seems to have some WP-presence: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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