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== For your perusal..... == == ] ==
] (]) 22:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC) sends thanks to Melanie for your encouraging feedback to this Wiki semi-newbie regarding his scale to quantify the darkness of the night sky.
. Just a passing mention mind, no indepth coverage yet. ;) ] (]) 01:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
And for all you do for ].
:Oh, and again (at the bottom). ] (]) 01:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
::Wow, and here it is again in a separate story about the same issue. Think I'm notable yet? 0;-D --] (]) 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


== ATTENTION: Moderator Abuse of Power - "Wes Sideman" ==
== Required Notification ==


Hello,
This is to notify you that I have opened a complaint about your behavior in the ] here:


I am writing to you concerned about moderator Wes Sideman (whom I have linked to below). He seems to have an obsession with this television character “Chad Johnson” from the TV show “The Bachelorette” and his Misplaced Pages page. He continues to change the notoriety of Chad Johnson from his TV shows, to his arrest records attempting to defame him. Those charges were dropped and as you can see in the video below, his girlfriend admits no assault happened. Apparently Wes Sideman knows more than the two people actually involved in the incident. Wes Sideman also continues to remove any remotely good press about Chad from the Misplaced Pages page. For some reason Wes has been monitoring and harassing this Misplaced Pages page for over two years now. If you have time, I would ask or suggest that you look into doing something about this Wes Sideman moderator using an abuse of power on Misplaced Pages.
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Thank you.
] (]) 21:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
::I modified the link for the record when the discussion was archived. --] (]) 15:57, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


Admission of no assault - https://youtu .be/qyK8-_kaVt8
== Notice ==
] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is ]. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. ] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk([[ 23:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


Examples of Wes Sideman’s edits - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1116808783


Wes Sideman’s page - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Wes_sideman&action=view
==Recent RfCs on US city names ==


Chad Johnson’s Misplaced Pages - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Chad_Johnson_(TV_personality) ] (]) 19:53, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
April 2012: ] was not officially made into an RfC or officially closed.


:{{Reply to|MelanieN}} Oddly, I got one ]. No idea why, as I don't recall any interaction with either the IP editor or the target of their ire, Wes sideman. See also this entry: ]. A puzzle that I can only resolve by referring the IP to ANI. Cheers! ] &#124; <sup> ]</sup> 20:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
September-October 2012: On another page, ] was closed as "No move".
::Like you,], I have had no interaction with this article and have no idea why they chose me (and you, and Ed Johnson) to post his identical complaint. And they have now posted it on the BLP notice board. I see no reason to get involved with the situation myself. -- ] (]) 22:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


== ] ==
An extensive November 2012 discussion involving 55 people was closed as "maintain status quo (option B)". ].


Hi MelanieN, hoping you are well. Can you pls do something about the talk page of Socrates, someone is messing around, apparently. ]] 11:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
A discussion in January 2013 later was never officially made into an RfC or officially closed; discussion died out with 18 editors opposed to a change and 12 in favor. ] .
:Hello, ], and thanks for the note. I know this kind of thing is annoying, but it is not anywhere near the level needed to add protection to a talk page. There were just two problem edits this week, and before that nothing since October. This kind of thing can be handled by normal watchlisting. -- ] (]) 23:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


::Ok, thanks Mel! Cheers ]] 05:21, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Discussion started in June 2013: ]; speedy-closed per ].
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== Happy New Year, MelanieN! ==
I didn't call Stewart a "tool" or "shifty." David Zurawik, respected media critic of '' The Baltimore Sun,'' made the comments. I reported what the critic said. The critic made the comments on ''MediaBuzz,'' a program on Fox News about the media hosted by respected media critic Howie Kurtz. The comments were made in context of the story first reported by Samuelsohn of ''Politico.'' Also some guy named RexxS deleted my post about Stewart crossing a line imitating Herman Cain. That's not right. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:{{ping|Impartial Scholar}} As I keep telling you - the place to discuss this is the talk page of the article, ]. Posting notes on the talk pages of individual editors is not going to help. Here's how things work here: material used at Misplaced Pages has to be ]. It has to be ] based on ] ] sources. And it has to be important enough to include. These rules are interpreted by the community through ]; consensus is developed by discussion at the talk page. For now, several different people have removed the Fox News comments, suggesting that the current consensus is not to include them. You are free to argue your case for including them, and maybe you will get the consensus to agree with you. But the place to develop that consensus is at the article's talk page. You must NOT keep re-adding it; that is the very definition of an ]. Edit warring is a no-no here, regardless of who is "right".
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:By the way, when you post on a talk page you should sign your comment. The way to do that is to add four tildes, like this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically generate your signature and a date/time stamp. You can find the tildes as the capital of the key to the left of "1", right under the "escape" key. Even easier, you can put your cursor at the end of your comments and then click on the signature button. It's in that row of buttons above the editing window, and it looks like a signature. Here's what I get when I do that: --] (]) 23:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
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== Can you help with a disruptive editor? ==
== ] ==
Hello! I raised this issue ] but no admins have responded. ] has made a slew of unsourced and misrepresented edits and removed content without explaining why, for which they were blocked in the past, and yet they are at this point ignoring the many warnings that users have posted on their talk page. This seems like a clear ] issue, so can you take action? Thanks. (Also sorry for posting this, deleting, and then reposting. Had some big formatting issues) ] (]) 21:16, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


== Hi! ==
Thanks. That's what I ''wanted'' to do but was unsure how much crap I would take for reverting before protecting. --] <sup>]</sup> 18:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
:LOL, usually YOU are the bold one and I am the timid one! Before I full-protect I always try to revert to the last stable version (but of course that is impossible because it violates the rule at ]). I also scolded them on the article's talk page and posted 3RR warnings to several of them. We'll see what happens. --] (]) 19:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
::Requesting re-instatement of the indefinite semi-protection following the recent expiration of full protection. Thanks. '''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 15:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, I see that the article has required semiprotection almost continuously, so I will reinstate it. --] (]) 15:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


I was just doing some editing for the first time in a while (someone was putting in spam links in article I was interested in) and so was catching up and looking back. I see I got a barnstar once from someone who is now an admin, though it has been a long time so you might not remember giving it to me. I need to find that article I was quoted in. Anyways, glad to see you are doing well here. I think I might have caught the editing bug again, so I might do some more editing now again. ] (]) 07:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
== Greyshirt ==
:Hi, ]! Yes, that was me. That was a long time ago, back in 2011. I don't remember what was the occasion for you being quoted in the press (and I stupidly didn't provide a link - I was kind of a newbie myself back then). But I'm sure you deserved it. Glad to see you are back! -- ] (]) 16:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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== Pure Storage requested edits ==
Hi Melanie - hope all's well.


Hi MelanieN. I work for ] and have a disclosed COI. The page seems to have a confusing history. At times editors have said to edit the page, to not edit the page, that the company already edited the page inappropriately (many years ago), and there’s a lot of very vague comments/feedback saying the page needs improvement.
I see you did work on moving and cleaning up ]. I hate to cause extra work, but would you please undo those moves? I talked with the non-admin closer of the RM , and they agreed that the discussion could be reopened. But it can't go back to the previous status quo without admin help. I hate to do it, because if it closes again in the same direction, this would be needless, but that's where we are. I can then undo the close, as Kwami allowed. Let me know if you have a different suggestion. Thanks. ] (]) 00:17, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks for the note, Dohn joe. Let's do this: go ahead and re-open the discussion, if you like, but let's leave the move the way it is for now. If you want I can come to the discussion and explain what I did. If consensus develops to go back to the previous situation, or to some third situation, I'll do or undo the moves then. But for now it won't hurt anything to leave them moved. Fair enough? --] (]) 00:25, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
I disclosed a COI and requested some edits to clarify the Purity OS is used on most (but not all) products, to update the list of product families, etc. A couple editors responded, but it is not very clear what next steps are. Your help would be much appreciated if you could clear the fog, even if it’s just to tell me my requested edits are bad and why. ] (]) 21:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
::Sure. The only thing I'd ask is that if the final answer is "no consensus" that we return to where things had been. Thanks Melanie. ] (]) 00:31, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
:::OK. I inserted an explanation of the history and the current situation (please correct me if I got anything wrong), and I added an area for new discussion. --] (]) 01:46, 7 August 2015 (UTC)


==Kiefer Sutherland and Charlize Theron==
== Problems with article Utigurs ==
Hi, I noticed that the pages ] and ] are both indefinitely semi-protected but are both missing the padlock icon at the top right of the page, can you fix this for both pages? Thanks. ] (]) 23:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks for the note, ]. Looks like alert editor ] has already fixed it. Thanks, Liliana! -- ] (]) 00:26, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


== Hogwarts Legacy protection ==
Hello,


Hello, thanks for taking care of the vandalism on the page. However, I would consider the 1 month protection too long. Right now, the page is being worked on a lot as it got newly released and a lot of people come around. Could you reduce the protection again to one level lower than now? ] (]) 22:53, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Could you please help me with the article "Utigurs" (as you helped not long ago) ? During the past few weeks I have improved the article substantially, but it is constantly under attack of different users who have tried to delete information or to put different tags on the article without any real reason just because they don't like the presented information. The problem with this article is that Utigurs were actually Huns and most scholars associate them with the Bulgars. This information is presented in the article in a neutral way and the best scholars and scientists ( as Edward Gibbon, Maenchen -Helfen and Steven Runciman ) are cited to support the information. There have always been claims from different people and nations to have some connection with the Huns. It is not my fault that all the scientists and historians always have connected the Utigur Huns with the Bulgars, from 18th century historian Edward Gibbon up to the latest book about the Huns by Hyun Jin Kim (2013). I can understand that this may infuriate many people, but Misplaced Pages is not a place to present nationalistic, personal or other claims under the false disguise that the article is presenting fringe theories, what is the last tag put on the article by a user with a nickname Crovata. Actually the article do presents the mainstream view, as you can see by reading it by yourself. Yesterday information was added that the Huns can probably be traced back to north China using artificial skull deformation of circular type, it is supported by scientific paper. This information is also on the article Huns. If someone doesn't like the results from a scientific paper, it doesn't mean that he/she can delete it or put unwarranted tags on the article. Actually such action is an attempt to vandalize the article.
:Hello, ], and thanks for the note. I see the problem: you yourself are not Extended Confirmed, and so the new protection is keeping you from editing. I sympathize, because you were not the one causing the problems. But there was a real problem with vandalism edits from auto-confirmed editors (or one editor under multiple names; several of the names have been blocked but there are always more in this kind of case). The vandalism was such that it is covered by the rules of ]. Let's do this: After a week I will lower it to semi-protection and we will see what happens. If things stay calm, fine. If the same problem comes back, I will have to restore the extended-confirmed protection, possibly for a longer time. Post here on my talk page on Sunday, Feb. 19 to remind me. -- ] (]) 02:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
::Hello, just here for the reminder. Thanks (Depending on timezones it might not be Sunday for you already though). ] (]) 23:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Good point; it's still Saturday here. But I will reduce the protection level and let's see what happens. -- ] (]) 23:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


== RfPP request at ] ==
Thank you for your time and understanding. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello, and thanks for your note. I really can't help you with this article. If I semi-protect it, as I did before, the result will be to ban YOU from editing the article - while leaving the registered users free to edit. I don't think that's what you want. This is basically a content dispute, with you presenting ideas and sources that the other users don't accept. Misplaced Pages works by ], and if you are the only one presenting your ideas, with multiple other people opposing, your ideas are simply not going to be in the article. Presenting your argument to me won't help you; I am not familiar enough with this field to take part in the discussion.
:You have made a good start by posting at the article's talk page; that's the first step. People are reasonable, and they will listen to and evaluate your point of view. If you have no luck there, you could ask for help at ] or ]. But be warned: if "most scholars" believe something and you believe something different, Misplaced Pages is going to accept the position of "most scholars". Misplaced Pages may or may not accept the results of a single scientific paper; it depends on the credentials of the author, how often the paper is cited, and similar considerations. Misplaced Pages mostly reflects the mainstream consensus of scholars; it may or may not present minority views depending on how much support there is for them. See ]. And be careful not to ]; you can get blocked for edit warring even if you are sure you are right. Sorry I couldn't be more help. --] (]) 22:31, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
::MelanieN, you answered to him very well, but believe me, if he is who I assume to be, he already heard this from me and other editors, but he won't listen. I am not surprised he contacted you as the user I assume is related to already done a similar thing. The article is in horrible shape, most of the claims the IP stated are ''not'' generally accepted and they need to be written according their weight (NPOV), or are totally incorrect (weren't Huns). The template must be there for the readers sake. I'm currently writing the new revision of the article, probably will post it today or tomorrow, and you will see what reliable and mainstream (not outdated and very minor) scholars consider on Utigurs. Note that the IP '46.40.112.239' has almost the same behaviour, POV, editing and use of sources as '', and recently blocked '' (removed template and wrote an improper on my talk page) and ]. --] (]) 23:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)


Hi! I understand you {{diff3|1140013341|declined the RfPP request}} for ] because ''most'' of the disruptive edits were by a single auto-confirmed editor, {{noping|Dgv102}}. Of course this is completely reasonable.
Crovata should: 1) removed the template himself because he didn't give any reason for putting it
or 2) he could enlighten us what is this "mainstream view"(as the template states) about the origin of the Huns and Utigurs ? <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:35, 8 August 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


You might want to take another look at their edits though as they have continued to remove/change referenced content about South African city naming across several articles. Also another IP ({{IPuser|196.41.10.18}}) continues to make similar edits at ] and other South African city articles.
== Ahmadiyya ==


Thanks! — <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:100%;color:black;background-color:transparent;;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 11:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your response . The discussion has been ongoing at ] instead. I didn't mention that but I think it should be clear from the talk that it is offensive.'''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 08:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
:I'll also add that {{diff|title=User_talk:Dgv102|diff=1140087129|oldid=1140012914|label=their only response}} continues to be {{tq|If you censor me I will report you to the USA House of Representative media committee}}, so they're ]. — <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:100%;color:black;background-color:transparent;;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 12:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
:OK, sorry. There was no discussion at the Ahmadiyya talk page. If you ask for protection of a page again, maybe you could put a note on its talk page, cross-referencing the other discussion - just to show that discussion is going on somewhere. I must say, though, that the discussion there isn't very convincing - because it is all just assertion, no links or evidence. "I say this." "No, I say that". If you could find any kind of reliable source saying the term is offensive, that would help a lot. As it is, you are saying it is offensive "because I say so", vs. the other side being able to cite the government of Pakistan as a source. You point out that the Pakistani government disapproves of the group, but that doesn't show that the term itself is offensive. Please understand, I'm not disagreeing with you or disbelieving you. I'm just saying that in a content dispute, the viewpoint that Misplaced Pages accepts is the viewpoint that has references to support it. --] (]) 13:13, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
::I have blocked them for 48 hours. I'll keep an eye on that IP; my hunch is it is the same person, editing without logging in. I will look forward to being reported to the USA House of Representative media committee, or possibly to the United States, House of Representatives Committee on Social media. -- ] (]) 15:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
::Actually, I see now that the ] article does have a reference supporting the idea that the term "shows contempt". I don't know if it is a Reliable Source but it is at least a reference. If you would cite that reference whenever you get into these arguments about the term, it would help a lot. A possible compromise, at articles like ], could be to say something like "Ahmadi Muslims are sometimes called "Qadiani", for example by the government of Pakistani, but the Ahmadis themselves find the term to be offensive." I see that Sakimonk put a sentence very much like that - "Although considered a slur" - into the Ahmadiyya article; are you OK with that? --] (]) 13:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
:::No need to be sorry. It's probably my fault. I tend to assume that admins and editors are aware of the context of the discussion. Besides that source, there is another RS by already provided by another editor. I think there is a difference between saying that "Ahmadis themselves find the term offensive" to saying that "the term is offensive", and it is the latter case according to sources. I don't believe that offensive terms have a place in articles, and particularly the lede, unless the discussion on the articles is concerning the actual term. The term has been mentioned in the context of a deplorable law (which I have discussed at ]) strongly condemned by human rights orgs. '''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 15:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
::::tagging {{u|Sakimonk}} for a fairer outlook.'''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 15:07, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::OK, but this discussion really needs to be at ] rather than here. If it isn't there, then "admins and editors" are NOT aware of the context of the dispute - and they can't be expected to find it here. (Remember than when you ask for help, at RFPP or dispute resolution or wherever, your request will almost certainly be handled by a person who knows little or nothing about the subject at hand.) I suggest you start a section at ], outlining your position and sources, and stating specifically what you want to change in the article - and invite Sakimonk to discuss it there. --] (]) 15:18, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::sure.'''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 15:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks. Just to add one comment, with my interpretation of Misplaced Pages policy: ]. Depending on context we may use words that are offensive to some. If a term is generally regarded as a racial or religious slur, we would not use it in Misplaced Pages's voice; thus, we would not show it as a synonym for the non-offensive term. If it is regarded as a slur but is used by a major source such as a national government, we should probably note both of those facts, together, somewhere in the article. That's pretty much what the existing sentence "Although considered a slur, the term qadiani is widely used in Pakistan and is the official term used by the government." does. --] (]) 15:50, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::::This fact belongs to the section ] and not the lede.'''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 16:00, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Then say so in your comment at ], where you are currently calling for the sentence to be removed. --] (]) 16:07, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::...with a bit of difference, "Although <s>considered</s> a slur, the term qadiani is widely used in Pakistan and is the official term used by the government".'''''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' 16:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


== ] == == '']'' semi-protection ==


Hi MelanieN. I've noticed that you from ECP to semi-protection on '']'' with expiration time left in place. However, you may have not noticed that another admin placed indefinite semi-protection under CT procedures per ]? See the log here: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&logid=140949542.
Thanks for the heads-up. He seems to have added the speedy delete template by accident, and later taken it out. The ] article is clearly a duplicate. I have started a discussion at ]. ] (]) 23:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


In my opinion, I think you should revert back to indefinite as other admins cannot modify his restriction under CT procedures for one year without his affirmative consent, community consensus, or arbcom. ] (]) 20:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
==Deletion review for ]==
:Thanks for the alert. I missed that. I will restore the semi-protection to indefinite. -- ] (]) 01:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a ] of ]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <!-- This originally was from the template {{subst:DRVNote|PAGE_NAME}} ~~~~ --> ] (]) 10:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
:For reference, the discussion is at ] and the subject is "Associated RC10". --] (]) 15:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
:: Aww... and here I was, hoping this was some article about a fascinating new emoticon, and it turns out just to be a wikitext snafu? Sigh. ] (]) 21:50, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


==rvt== == ScotRail ==
You really didn't need to go to the trouble to revert on the temp restored article --you could just have copied it from the version in the history -- but no harm done ''']''' (]) 19:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks. To me it was easier to revert to a version before the AfD template was added and before the temp-restored template was added. But I forgot to delete the categories from the userfied page. Oops! --] (]) 19:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for your change, but it seems like protection of ] after three bad edits in 10 days seems like overkill. I wouldn't say we are struggling to say on top of the article in any way. Just my US$0.02. ] (]) 08:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
== Supercentarians ==
*Thanks for the comment, ]. That's why I gave it Pending Change protection instead of semi-protection. PC is exactly designed for the kind of article that gets problem edits, not frequently enough for semi-protection, but recurrent over a period of months or longer. It also has the advantage that when there are edits from IPs that are constructive, they can be accepted and integrated into the article. -- ] (]) 20:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
*:I never saw it that way. Thanks. ] (]) 22:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


== WP:USPLACE ==
You protected the wrong versions. Those edits were done by non-WOP members. They have no right to mess with the WOP projects. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:14, 15 August 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The question of who is "right" is currently being worked out at several other venues. I believe you are familiar with them. --] (]) 22:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


Hi Melanie - rather than further mucking up the RfC talk, I wanted to ask you about USPLACE here for a minute. For years, I was essentially neutral on this. I see the pros of keeping the USPLACE status quo - it's a bright line rule, and as you note, it is at least rooted in one clearly reliable source. But after seeing the issue come up over and over and over, either as a full RfC, or on individual city article RMs (and I think your private list is missing a number of those discussions, just fyi), I've come around to thinking that the only way to truly retire this as an issue is to do one simple thing: anywhere - ''but only where'' - a city name is '''''a ] to a city article,''''' swap ] for ]. That's it. No other discussion needed. This would mean zero "constant battles" because the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC has already been decided. If someone wants to battle about ] or ] or ] or ], they are already free to do that today - regardless of USPLACE. Swapping primaryredirects would have no impact on ] or ] or anywhere else - no battles.
== A bowl of strawberries for you! ==


The main problem with USPLACE - the reason challenging it will never die - is because it is so arbitrary. It's a fundamentally flawed compromise. There have been countless other Wiki battles that did resolve - WP:COMMA, WP:ENDASH, ], etc. This one keeps going because in standard American usage, there is no reason to allow ] but not ], or to allow ] but not ].
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:You're welcome. The protection was needed. The unwanted edits were not just unsourced; they were violations of our ] policy. Let me know if the problem recurs And thanks for the strawberries! --] (]) 18:46, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


I know you've been a staunch supporter of USPLACE for a long time. I also know you are a dedicated, smart, pragmatic editor. This just feels to me like the pragmatic way out of all this! Appreciate you taking the time here, and interested in your thoughts. ] (]) 16:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
== Wonder if you might rethink Jean Dadario Burke? ==
:Thanks for your thoughtful note, ]. (And how are you? Long time no see.) I do strongly feel that US cities should have the state appended to their name, for reasons I have spelled out elsewhere, so I do not agree with dropping the state. And I am not moved by the argument that the US naming convention has to be identical to every other country's; uniqueness for individual country standards or formats is accepted at Misplaced Pages. But I do see where you are coming from about the AP exceptions. I would be perfectly OK with eliminating the AP rule and making all of our cities have the state added. This would not really create any disruption, because someone searching for "Chicago" would automatically end up at "Chicago, Illinois" without even noticing they have been redirected. Whereas removing the state from all cities that are unique would, as I have argued in the past, have cities like "Hawaiian Gardens, California" or "Sleepy Eye, Minnesota" demanding their states back. Continuing the Minnesota examples, a city name like "Elko New Market" or "Shoreview" or "Sauk Centre" or "Blue Earth" or "Olivia" or "St. Bonifacius" ... well, you get the idea. The name conveys no information without the state. I should probably make clearer at the discussion that I am willing to abandon the AP and list the state at all city articles. -- ] (]) 17:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks, Melanie, doing well - hope you are too! U.S. placenames are such an odd situation. I looked at it a long time ago, and somewhere around 80 percent of U.S. placenames will require disambiguation no matter what the convention is. So having the "default" be ] would mean only 20 percent of U.S. places would really be at ]. Which is a good WP:CONSISTENCY argument to just have everything at ]. But then it's not consistent with normal WP practice, which is to have everything at ] unless there are two topics called "Name", in which case you go to the primarytopic discussion. If Hawaiian Gardens was a town in New Zealand, it would be at ]. Which is why I disagree with adding the state to "give context" or "convey information" - that's not how WP usually titles things. All that said, universal ] is my second-best situation. I still think that people would come along trying to get things in line with regular WP usage, but it's a much better outcome than what we have now. I'll go say that over at the RfC. ] (]) 01:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


==Userfy Article==
I agree the article was pretty dismal, but the persons making the two delete votes, in my view, did not adequately research the article, and I don't think it is fair for Ms. Burke to get deleted because her article was substandard.--] (]) 00:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC) The combination of , plus numerous daytime Emmy nominations and wins, a long career, suggest Burke was a real maker-and-shaker in the soap opera world.--] (]) 00:08, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
You were the deleting admin on this article. I was wondering if you could please userfy it for me. The issues included the nominator and one of the comments were sock puppets.
:{{ping|Tomwsulcer}} Thanks for your note. The consensus at the discussion was pretty clear, and the !voters are credible people who did suggest they had done research. But if you like, I can userfy it to you, so you can add sources and improve the article. Before resubmitting it you should probably ask me to take a look and compare it to the deleted article, so that I can certify that it is significantly different; otherwise it will likely get speedy deleted per ]. --] (]) 00:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|MelanieN}}, Thanks for being open-minded. How about ?--] (]) 00:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
:::You've got it covered already! If you want to use that to create a new article, I'll put a note on the talk page saying that it is significantly different from the deleted article. Let me know when it's live. --] (]) 00:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
::::Ok live ]. Hope she survives, methinks she deserves it, hope you think similarly...--] (]) 00:40, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ron_Duncan_(2nd_nomination)
== Thank you! ==


] (]) 02:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Just wanted to thank you for protecting '''Category:Redirects from moves'''. ''Joys!'' –&nbsp;'']''&nbsp; 01:40, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
:You're welcome. I can't imagine why that ever became a target, but Misplaced Pages moves in mysterious ways. --] (]) 02:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC) :Thanks for the note, ]. The article is now at ]. -- ] (]) 03:59, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


==DYK nomination of Omar (opera)==
== Note ==
] Hello! Your submission of ] at the ] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at ''']''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> ] (]) 14:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


==DYK for Omar (opera)==
. Good work at ]. Cheers, ]] 02:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
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:Thanks. Nice to know I have people picking up after me. --] (]) 02:46, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you! It's also featured on project opera. --] (]) 14:26, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


I loved to see ] and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. Impressions of Easter ] and music ]. --] (]) 17:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
== Braun and something else ==
:Thanks for letting me know, ]! I'm afraid I missed it, not having logged on to my computer all day yesterday. Was busy pretty much all day, first singing multiple Easter services and then getting together with family. Of course I am familiar with her singing at the Lincoln Memorial, but I didn't realize that was the day. Good to know. -- ] (]) 01:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
:: Thank you, it was very similar for me. Yes, I knew of the event, but had even commented out some images when there was a complaint about too many on her birthday. Only when I read the article again did I realize that the original event had also been Easter Sunday, which made extra meaningful. - I like the stats. - My multiple services were on four days in a row, as you probably saw, otherwise I'd have passed the news around on Sunday. In Germany, Monday was still Easter ;) --] (]) 06:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
:: My story today, ], was ], thanks to great colleagues. --] (]) 13:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
:: ] is the 80th birthday of ]. --] (]) 16:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


== Megyn Kelly ==
He does seem to be in a bit of a spot. If that Facebook thing is right, we can expect a flood of candidates. Anyway, have a look at ANI thread 'Searching for deleted articles'. I seem to have sparked something off there... ] (]) 18:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
:Great idea. I commented. For any interested stalkers, the discussion is actually at AN, not ANI. --] (]) 21:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC) Hi, I stumbled across the ] page and noticed that it is indefinitely semi-protected but is missing the padlock icon at the top right of the page, can you fix this? Thanks. ] (]) 03:05, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


:{{tpw}} {{done}} ] (]) 03:44, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
== Harry Braun got the Message ==
:{{re|Kyle Idleman}} And how exactly did you "stumble" across the article and the problem?--] (]) 16:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
::Because they did the vandalism? Hi MelanieN and tpws. This is a frequent trope for this LTA, FYI. Be sure to ping a CU. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 17:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks, and thanks for dealing with them, ]. How would I recognize an account as an LTA in the future? -- ] (]) 20:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
::::You're probably already familiar with vandalism such as or ]. I don't mean just the vandalism, but also the whole context. US politicians are a particular favourite. I would eye any protection request concerning any affected article with a high degree of suspicion. I mean regular users sometimes request protection, and that's fine, but very often there's a suspicious new user to be found. Their LTA page, linked from the block log, might have some extra info. Thanks. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 05:07, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


== Joe Rogan ==
Dear MelanieN, Given the harsh personal criticism of you and many other Misplaced Pages editors, Harry Braun's revised Article has removed all references and citations to his 2016 presidential campaign or any of his past Congressional or Presidential campaigns. His revised article only focuses on his scientific and engineering publications, references and citations. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:35, 20 August 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
The ] page has been indefinitely semi-protected for a long time but the prior PC settings have not been reset. Can you please take care of this? ] (]) 16:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:{{done}} A long time is right. It's been indefinitely PC protected since 2014. The indefinite semi-protection was imposed in 2017 but the PC wasn't removed. Six years is a long time to have unnecessary PC protection on an article. You were apparently the first one to notice it. -- ] (]) 20:17, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


== California Coastal Erosion ==
P.S. have you taken a look at Donald Trump's Misplaced Pages page? Do you not find it "Promotional"??? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:18, 20 August 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
] (]) I thought you might find this story and photos very informative: <ref>] (]) 11:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
:I replied on your talk page. --] (]) 15:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you for the link, ]! As a San Diego resident myself, I am of course familiar with the issues this article raises. But after reading it and its excellent summary of the coastal situation in California, I think I will look into adding some of this information to articles like ], ], ], and others. <small>(BTW it's interesting that this excellent summary of California's coastal problems was published in an East Coast newspaper! Maybe that's why it says Black's Beach is "north of San Diego" when it is actually part of San Diego.) </small> -- ] (]) 15:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
{{reftalk}}


== Medellín Cartel ==
Hello Melanie, I am indeed running for president in the Democratic Primary. Mesa Wind LLC is my company, which was the original developer of a $150 million, 120 MW, San Juan Mesa Wind project in New Mexico that was completed in 2005, at which point the controlling interest was sold to Edison Mission Energy, which provides Mesa Wind with a royalty for the commercial life of the project. Sustainable Partners International was a separate publications company in Phoenix Arizona that included myself and three other individuals: Pete Dixon and John Olson, who were printing specialists, and Lucy Hays who was a proof reader. However, SPI is no longer active.] (]) 21:18, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you, I will fix it. --] (]) 21:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
== Reference errors on 20 August ==


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:Thanks for the thought. I saw the message, and yes, it might. But the IPs are changing so rapidly, to so many different accounts, I thought it would be simpler just to protect the page. -- ] (]) 19:09, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
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== Renomination of an AfD you previously voted to keep ==
==SPI assistance==
Hey MelanieN, I know you have oodles of time (not) but wondering if you have a chance to look over ]. Originally it looked like it was going to be only two accounts but as I started to look over the article histories, something else started to come out of the woodwork. I might need another set of eyes on this if it's as many accounts as Im unturning. I don't believe I'm the first to come across this editor, they likely have another archived SPI somewhere else. ]] 00:56, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
:Looks like it's all resolved for now. Cheers, ]] 11:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
::OK, thanks for the note. You caught me offline. (Yes, I do sleep sometimes.) --] (]) 14:12, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


Hi @]: I noticed you were one of the administrators who voted to keep the page ] (founder & CEO of a publicly traded company) during its ]. The page has been ] with no consensus reached and no voting activity since its relisting last week. For context, a quick edit history since the renomination shows promo has been removed and NPOV has been improved. I wanted to send you a note in case you had thoughts you wanted to share. ] (]) 14:47, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
== Can you be of assistance or does this have to go through red tape? ==
:Hello, ], and thanks for your kind note. Actually I wasn't an admin in 2009; I was pretty much a newbie. Looking at the current article now, I note that it has lots of references but mostly from minor or little-known sources. I don't feel strongly enough one way or the other to comment at the AfD, except that the article should not be deleted. At worst it should be redirected to emusic. I guess I could go and say that. -- ] (]) 15:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks @] for your kind note to me as well. Since @] closed out the AfD, I thought it would be helpful to bring her into the follow-up to the conversation here. It’s been about a day with no activity on the merging front of the two articles, I thought I would volunteer to merge them (given I voted on the AfD, I had hoped someone else would do the merging, but it looks like not).
::I wanted to ask your thoughts on the draftification piece given that’s not something I’ve seen done before as part of an AfD after a redirect (and not actually sure how to accomplish that outcome either). Since some of the main problems with the article originally were Promo/Advert/COI/SPA and initial writing by Guruvie, what if instead of draftifying the article, after merging relevant info, the article were rewritten from the ground-up in-place (i.e. it would start as a stub and as more reliable sources were found it would grow). Seems this would solve the main issues discussed and be a simpler outcome to accomplish?
::I know this is not commonplace, but given the AfD closure wasn’t either and we had very weak consensus, I wanted to propose this to you as administrators with the offer that I’d be willing to take on that project as well. ] (]) 16:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
:::I might be able to do the merge later today - given that I argued for it so strongly. As for rewriting the article, yes, that is what we should do - but as a draft! Then we can do all we want with the draft, and nobody will look at it or evaluate it unless/until we are ready to request that it be changed from a draft to an article. While the work on the draft is going on, the only thing left of the article itself will be a redirect to the company. Give me the rest of today, I might be able to get it done. It's not unusual for it to take a while before a merge gets done. -- ] (]) 20:55, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
::::Sounds good. This is an interesting process to watch for the end of an AfD (more intriguing than the other AfDs I have watched over the years). Appreciate you explaining how it works and look forward to seeing this process of drafifcation here. ] (]) 21:36, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::OK, it's done. How it's done: first I transferred some of the information about how he founded eMusic and its company history to the eMusic article. Then I used the "move" function to move the entire, unchanged Mark Chasan article from article space to ]. I moved the talk page too. In the draft article, I removed the notice about merging, and I also disabled all the categories, since we don't list drafts under any categories. Now the draft can be worked on freely, making as many changes as you want, and nobody will comment on it unless/until you request that it go back to being an article. BTW one of the things I held against the article was its lack of mainstream/major sources. I think if you look at the eMusic article you may find some mainstream sources that can be borrowed for the Chasan article. Thanks for involving me in this, it's kind of fun to carry out something unusual like that! It was clever of ] to come up with that solution to the problem. -- ] (]) 22:15, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for explaining how it was done, a lot simpler than I would have imagined! Agreed, if I have time, I’ll go back through and see if any of the sources from the eMusic article can be borrowed for the draft article. Out of curiosity, what’s the procedure for moving an article such as this one for example that was draftified back into article space once it has been cleaned up content and source-wise? ] (]) 08:56, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


== Always precious ==
You recently protected the Page ]. The concern was edit warring and constant vandalism. The article in question is a simple list linking to other articles. There is almost zero chance of any "new information" being found today which can be added to the said list style article. Therefore seeing that the only thing it is being used for is edit warring and constant vandalism , can you be kind enough to gold lock it for at least a couple of months?
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I'm quite aware that I should not be using your talkpage for requesting an admin action, but I just thought that as you protected the page before you may be able to protect it again without us having to go through a protection request. I can lodge a request if you want me to. Regards] (]) 10:17, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Ten years ago, ] were found precious. That's what you are, always. --] (]) 07:25, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
:], I'm sorry to see that edit warring has erupted again. But full protection is normally used only for very short periods, like a few days - usually to stop an active edit war in the hopes that the parties will talk. This seems more like a slow motion disagreement, with some discussion going on. At this point, I do not see so hot an edit war as to need full protection. Anyhow, I am not qualified to overrule all the participants and determine what the article should say over the long term. That is done among discussants at the talk page. The main rule is that anything contentious needs to have a reference supporting it. If there is no reference for a given statement or claim, and some people challenge it, it should probably not be in the article. If somebody insists on adding unsourced information which does not have consensus, the person could be reported to ]. Be aware that if the edit warring is a two-way reversion battle between two parties, both parties may end up blocked at 3RR. Edit warring is considered bad in itself, no matter who is "right" or "wrong". Sorry I couldn't be more help. (P.S. Looking at the history, I see that you are the one who is trying to add unsourced information. If I were to fully protect the article, it would be a version that does NOT include the sentence you are trying to add.) --] (]) 14:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
:Aww, that's so sweet! Thank you! -- ] (]) 20:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
:::: The two "mujaddids" of the fourteenth century are both extremist and heretical sectarianists who are rejected by the majority of sunni muslims. The rest of the actual mujaddids are all removed from the list because for some reason my edits are censored. Why is this? My version lists every single school of thought and is '''fully sourced''' and it is the most accurate. The current one is a POV car crash and embarrassing to even look at. Shame on you admin ] for enabling such an abuse of the WP:BRD and violating WP:NPOV guidelines.]] 21:59, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
:] Thanks for pointing out the lack of sources. I have inserted them now.] (]) 03:36, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
::: Hi! Please take note of sectarian attack on ] page which needs to be stopped. The comments made by Sakimonk displays his personal hatred towards these movements. In this situation he can't be expected to edit with neutral point of view. His language constitute violation of ]. Kindly take note of further vandalism by this editor. ] (]) 10:03, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
*I have locked the page for three days and given advice on the talk page. Basically, you all need to stop editing based on your personal beliefs, and start editing based on what neutral reliable sources say. We require NEUTRAL sources - not adoring descriptions of a person written by his admirers, and not attacks on one sect of a religion written by another sect of the religion. --] (]) 17:32, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! == == ] ==


Hi MelanieN. I work for ]. I disclosed a COI, flagged about half of the page being focused on security breaches, and got a response from {{ping|Chumpih}}. He seemed to agree but doesn’t want to keep editing without other editor(s) weighing in. I was hoping you might take a look and weigh in . Appreciate your time. ] (]) 18:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the barnstar, but it's the wrong barnstar. I didn't see any vandalism there - just strong differences of opinion. If we will all show respect for each other, I believe it will be possible to work out compromise language that everyone can accept. That's what the "page lock" is for, and that's what the talk page is for. --] (]) 19:07, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


== Adam Schiff and Al Roker ==
== Deletion review of ] ==
Hi, the following indefinitely semi-protected pages need their prior PC settings reset:


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Would you kindly take care of this for both pages? Thanks. ] (]) 23:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
== "I'm striking your bolded "Delete" because you already said "Delete" above and you only get to "vote" once. You can comment as much as you like, but only one bolded !vote per person. --MelanieN (talk) 23:24, 22 August 2015 (UTC)" ==
:{{done}} Thanks for the alert, ]. -- ] (]) 00:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)


== Indefinitely semi-protected pages needing prior PC settings reset==
"If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Misplaced Pages contributors. Misplaced Pages has policies and guidelines regarding the encyclopedia's content, and consensus (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes." Youre not "striking" anything. Thanks.] (]) 14:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi, the following indefinitely semi-protected pages need their prior PC settings reset:
:Thanks for your note, and sorry if you were offended by my striking through the word "delete". The problem is just that you shouldn't add a bolded "delete" at the start of your second and later comments. There is no problem with the comment itself; as you say, it is a discussion, not a vote. As I said at the AfD page, You are free to comment as much as you like, but please precede your second and later comments with something like '''Comment''' rather than repeating "delete". Among other reasons, if you cast more than one bolded "vote", it confuses the bot that archives these discussions. --] (]) 15:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
::Oh, Honestly, I didnt know there was any other choices besides delete or keep. I also made editions that were lost when I hit save because I don't like the way my comment could be interpreted. So, sorry about that on my part. I was adding that on each re-list new points were made and I had added that my particular stance hadn't changed. Well Im glad you shared that. If I ever participate in a discussion like this and had previously added "delete" Ill add "comment". Thats when wikipedia can be really great, is when through discussion a person can learn things like even nuances. That was a cool experience doing this with you here, have a nice day. ] (]) 15:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
:::Thanks for understanding. There's a lot to learn around here, isn't there? But it's worth sticking around and learning. Misplaced Pages editing can be an interesting hobby. If you have questions in the future, feel free to ask. --] (]) 15:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
::::There definitely is. It is worth it. I will probably do just that. I really appreciate the sentiment. I already have one thing I would ask about someone who wrote something derogatory about a known gay musician, implying they hooked up with young people. I think it should be brought to an administrators attention because its completely like nothing Ive ever seen here since mid 2000s. Im not sure if this is the place though. So maybe I wouldn't bother you with it. Im not sure. Either way have a great day, and Thank you.] (]) 00:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::If you want to tell me the name of the article, I'll take a look at it. Misplaced Pages has very firm policies on articles about living people, see ]. If you don't want to post the name of the article here for whatever reason, you can email it to me. Just click "email this user" on the Tools menu on the left. --] (]) 00:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


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] (]) 05:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC) If you don't mind, would you take care of this for all the above pages? Thanks. ] (]) 16:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks for the alert, ]. I think I got them all, but you might check and see if I missed any or messed any of them up. -- ] (]) 00:48, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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== Denmark ==
== Restoring Catalyst Pharmaceuticals page ==
Greetings, the ] page has been indefinitely semi-protected for more than four years but still has not had its prior PC settings reset. Would you kindly please take care of this? Thanks. ] (]) 02:43, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:This message was brought to you by a ] sock of ]. ] (]) 18:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks for the warning, ]. The user may be a banned sock, but the request was legitimate so I carried it out. This was a long-overdue correction of a problem. -- ] (]) 03:05, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


== Indefinitely semi-protected/extended confirmed protected pages needing prior PC settings reset ==
Does the recent coverage of Catalyst Pharmaceuticals http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/biz-monday/article27561916.html make it sufficiently notable for a page restoration? It includes patient and business analyst perspectives from a third-party source.
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:{{ping|Mastermindful}} That is exactly the kind of thing - significant coverage from an independent reliable source - that people found lacking at the ]. I can't guarantee that it will be considered ENOUGH coverage, but it's worth trying. I will restore the article as a draft in your userspace. That will give you leisure to cite and add the new source and any others you have. When you have a draft article ready, let me take a look at it. If it is significantly different/better than the deleted article, I will move it to articlespace and post a note on the talk page saying it is significantly different. If the article is put into articlespace without a prior review, it is likely to get tagged for speedy deletion per ]. --] (]) 18:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
::The article is here: ] I suggest you redo your reference citations into a more standard format before resubmitting the article. See ]. --] (]) 18:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


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Please let me know if you think the additional detail in the userspace version is significantly different from the deleted article. A lot of the controversy surrounding Catalyst Pharmaceuticals and their orphan drug product is similar to controversy surrounding ], but involves US policy and opinion rather than that of the UK. --] (]) 21:30, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
:Yes, ], it is different enough, and now has some independent reliable sources (including the Miami Herald and other Florida newspapers). Good work. I will move it to article space. You understand that this does not guarantee it will remain in the encyclopedia, but I think it has a good shot. The controversy section needs to be expanded, including this source which was mentioned at the AfD discussion. If you don't care to add that, someone else probably will. --] (]) 21:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
::OK, the article is live, and I added a note to the talk page saying that it is different enough that it should not be speedy-deleted per ]. If anyone tags it, call their attention to that note. --] (]) 22:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


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Hi. I wanted to upload a page of one of my favourite journalists Jonathan Power but it is not possible and says the page has been recreated too many times. Could you restore this so I could work on a page? I have good references for it. thank you ] (]) 12:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC) <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 12:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:Hello, ], and thanks for your note. The page has been created and deleted four times, so we are going to need some assurance that the article is now acceptable, before it gets allowed into the main encyclopedia. What you should do is upload the page to your own userspace, using the title ]. While it is there you can work on it. When you think it is ready, ask me or another administrator to look at the page to see if it now meets Misplaced Pages standards. One of the concerns that led to previous deletion was that parts of the article were copy/pasted from some other source. That is not allowed here, per ], so be sure that the article is entirely in your own words. Other concerns are described here: ]. Requirements for a subject to have an article here can be found at ] and ]. --] (]) 16:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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Would you please fix this on each of the above pages? Thank you. ] (]) 20:23, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


== Help with the Update to U.S. Marine Network Security Breach section on the Lenovo page ==
Dear MelanieN, Thank u for your observations. As u will have seen with the last submission only a summary has been submitted. It is correctly sourced. Nothing is copied/pasted from another source. I have done what you said and created a greyhound90/jonathan power page.


Hi MelanieN. I disclosed a conflict of interest and requested balancing a section on a political issue ]. In a nutshell, the section cites one source alleging Lenovo was involved in a conspiracy to spy on US military operations for China, without balancing with other sources saying the allegations were bogus. I was hoping you might be willing to take a look at my request? Let me know. Best regards. ] (]) 18:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Just to clarify the integrity of the submission in the original version when there were 2 queries about 2 of his documentary films made for the BBC- "It's Ours Whatever They Say" and the Diplomatic Style of Andrew Young"- the following should be noted. It was suggested that Jenny Barraclough made these films and received the awards not Jonathan Power. The fact is at that time Jenny and Jonathan were working as a partnership. Jenny was the director and Jonathan was the reporter (and in the case of the first film, the producer.) The prize given at the Venice Film Festival was not the Silver Lion and Jonathan has never claimed it was. That prize is for cinema feature films. The prize for "It's Ours" was for documentary films category. The film was also chosen for the London Film Festival of that year, 1972. In the case of Venice Jenny Barraclough's name was on the award. In the case of the London Film Festival only Jonathan Power's name was credited. In order to verify this you must contact Jenny at Jenny.barraclough@gmail.com. Regards, Jenny Eklund. ] (])
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:Hello! I am traveling and don't have access to my tools. So I can't see the deleted article. I'll take a look on Monday and see what I can do. Sorry for the delay. ] (]) 18:54, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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== Edit summary grief ==
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LTNS, Melanie. Hope you're well. Numerous edit summaries by re the ] article are downright uncivil at worst or rife with impertinence at best. The edits themselves aren't without merit; I'm concerned only about the summaries themselves. Would extended confirmed protection be in order for a few weeks to pause the grief? Here are the offending edit summaries:
:Hello, ]! Sorry for the delay in replying, I have been traveling. Unfortunately, another Rome Sentinel reference is not enough to restore the article about Frank Page, or about his cartoon, Bob the Squirrel. You can see the community's discussion about the cartoon here: ]. That article was deleted because it did not meet Misplaced Pages's ] for inclusion here, namely, coverage by ] ] sources. The Frank Page article was deleted for the same reason. Those articles actually had references from the Rome Sentinel. But it was pointed out that the Rome Sentinel is not an independent source, because it publishes the cartoon, and also employs Frank Page. (BTW that's Rome, New York, not Rome, Italy). Unless Page or his cartoon start to get more widespread and independent coverage, they are not going to qualify for an article here. Sorry. --] (]) 18:38, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
*https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Noun&diff=prev&oldid=1201680444
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Alternatively, a warning to the user or even a temporary ban from editing the Noun article might be a consideration. I wouldn't mind being additionally subject to such a ban if you think merits a slap on my wrist.
::]! Here are some more sources...
Cheers. ] 06:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
::http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/J2575-2011 <br>
::http://www.editorandpublisher.com/Archive/-Comics-Sherpa-Is-Guide-to-Possible-Syndication<br>
::http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/12/16/kleefeld-on-webcomics-41-frank-page-interview/<br>
::http://comicscoasttocoast.com/podcast/episode-152-the-frank-page-interview-2-years-later/<br>
::http://comicscoasttocoast.com/podcast/episode-79-the-frank-page-interview-part-2/<br>
::http://comicscoasttocoast.com/podcast/episode-63-the-frank-page-interview/<br>
::http://wkal1450.com/cartoonist-frank-page-bob-the-squirrel-says-the-things-that-i-wish-i-could-say/<br>
::http://interestingcool.com/?p=52<br>
::http://mentalfloss.com/article/54634/happy-squirrel-appreciation-day<br>
::http://comicbastards.com/comics/web-comic-of-the-week-bob-the-squirrel/<br>
::http://www.jasonloveslife.com/frank-page/<br>
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::http://www.andertoons.com/cartoon-blog/2004/08/frank_page_insi.html<br>
::http://www.coolmirc.com/a-squirrel-drawing-a-day-for-a-year/
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:Well! I promptly replied at my user talkpage and agreed to be more kind if he would do the same and desist from his own rude and dismissive edits (quoted to him there, at my talkpage). Kent Dominic repeatedly refuses to read the explanations that I give for my extremely careful edits (and I do ''know'' about this topic, as should be clear from the content that I revise and add). Earlier I ''complimented'' Kent in an edit summary, which he appears not to have noticed; he certainly hasn't reciprocated, with any acknowledgement of my own efforts toward improvement of the article. In any case, it ''is'' now much improved, after the attention we have both given it. Thanks for listening, and best wishes to all. ] (]) 07:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:Well, that's an interesting collection of sources. Most of them are blogs and such, things that don't count toward notability, but I see a few sources that taken together might give you enough meat for an actual, referenced biography of Frank Page. They are:
::Whether my edits are presumed to be dismissive isn't relevant. Whether my criticisms of an ''edit'' (while not casting asperisons on ''editor'') might be construed to be rude isn't relevant. Whether I refuse to read edit summaries (while incidentally quoting them in part in my own summaries and supplying proofs as supplied above) is a red herring. Whether your edits are extremely careful isn't relevant. How much anyone knows about nouns isn't relevant. Your complimenting me in an earlier edit summary isn't relevant. Expecting a reciprocal compliment isn't relevant. Adhering to the Misplaced Pages guidelines for edit summaries, however, is the salient issue in this thread. The sufficiency of the edits themselves isn't an issue that a sysop properly decides when considering the basis of a complaint such as the one I lodged here. ] 12:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
* A decent mention at Editor and Publisher.
Melanie, the same user now seems to think is proper verbiage for an edit summary. ] 13:02, 2 February 2024
* Local TV coverage at WKTV - purely local (like the Rome Gazette) but it helps.
:: O, sorry about that. If you prefer "they themself" I'll do it that way in future. ''Kent'' is normally a male name, and I found no pronoun guidance at your userpage. I stand by that "editor still hasn't grasped" remark, because it's plainly justified. I note that you have more offensive wording in your own ''subsequent'' summary text (see recent summaries). I have requested at the talkpage for ] that you drop the stick, after again complimenting you on a good edit. Best wishes to all! ☺ ] (]) 06:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
* MTV Geek News interview - this looks like the best source for biographical information.
* The Rome Arts Hall of Fame - not much but doesn't hurt.
* A passing mention at Mental Floss - not much but shows that a national magazine has at least heard of him.
* You can also use the Rome Sentinel material, and even his own web page, as a source of information, but they do not contribute to his ].
:Here's what I would suggest: Start an article from scratch, in your own userspace rather than in the main encyclopedia. Oh, good, I see you already have done this, at ]. Work on it there for a while. Take a look at some other articles, say ] or ] or ], to see how it should be formatted (lead paragraph, biographical information, etc.) Use the references to verify the information you put in; see ] if you're not familiar with how to cite references. When you think you have it ready, ping me and I'll take a look and advise you whether to go ahead and move it to the encyclopedia. If I think it has a shot at being kept, I will put a note on the talk page of the article, so that it doesn't get immediately deleted again. --] (]) 23:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


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== YGM and a note! ==
::*No need to apologize ''to me'' for the presumption. Can't say the same on behalf of anyone else who's the target of a conclusory characterization.
::*For the record, ] is a logon name that represents a singular user. Accordingly, I emphatically do not appreciate being the object of a ] reference. However, since ''they, them, their'' (etc.) are third-person pronouns, I make no demands on how others pronominally refer to me in such contexts. While I admit no condescension toward others who use plural pronouns for an individual person or thing, I'm always ready to excoriate the semantic ignorance implicit in such usage apart from the modern-day social implications.
::*I'm loath to characterize anyone as being ignorant for statements such as "editor still hasn't ''grasped''". Such a characterization would be sua sponte uncivil. I'm entirely prepared to delinate the semantic ignorance implicit in a statement that conflates the meanings of ''grasp'' versus ''acknowledge'' versus ''admitted''. I concede being powerless to control what others guilessly justify for themselves.
::*Also FTR, I'm careful to distinguish vituperating ridiculous premises, arguments, and conclusions without ''ad hominem'' insults. If you feel ''personally'' abraded for criticisms of your edits, tough. If I've made any vituperative comments about any editor's person, kindly give an example.
::*In a similar vein, Misplaced Pages is not a social media site where editors acquire capital (or typically seek plaudits) for commentary, nor am I one to take umbrage at subjective characterizations such as . Please better acquaint yourself with the Misplaced Pages guidance on allowable content in edit summaries, which ''does'' permit pointed objections to the substance of the edit itself. To reiterate, if you feel personally abraded for criticisms of your edits, tough. If you want to criticize the verbiage in an edit summary, a talk page such as this one is the proper place for it. E.g., I'll opine how "That was a fine edit (apart from the ridiculous edit summary)" is puerile ] for an edit summary and a characterization that I'd deem inconsequential on a talk page.
::*FYI: I chose MelanieN (who is thoughtful, kind, and chill, especially to newbies) to report your edit summary anamolies rather than (a) choosing a sysop who'd impulsively ban you, or (b) instigating a Noticeboard Incident that would invite the scrutiny of a host of sysops who'd impulsively ban you. I'm not one to bear ill will toward editors who make good faith edits and I hold no grudges against editors who make edits that don't pass my muster, but I do insist that editors follow the Misplaced Pages guidelines to avoid edit summaries that are nonrelevant to the substance of an article (e.g., or emoticons of any sort). If you're so inclined, post such verbiage to a user's talk page. As a fan of apophasis, I need not mention how I'd deem such an imperative as "Read, learn..." to be moronic, and I'd have no inclination to characterize the poster as moronic despite what I might believe to the contrary.
::*To MelanieN: Sorry for this wall of text on your talk page. Sometimes I forget my comments might take longer to read than it takes me to write.
::*P.S. I'm unfamiliar with the "drop the stick" phrase and can't rightly guess whether it equates to ''drop the baton'' or intended to mean ''drop the schtick'' or something otherwise. ] 14:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
{{od}} Kent Dominic, rather than deal with the same issues at all places where you have posted, I reply only.
Goodbye, and good luck! ☺♥ ] (]) 23:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


== Christmas in the Park up for deletion ==
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:Hi Melanie! Its been long since we talked last, how are you? I want to make an announcement but I can't figure out any other way but to drop a note on few intimate editor's talk page, including you! I appreciate if you can have few minutes to spend on reading ] on my talk page. If you feel that I deserve a scholarship, I appreciate your endorsement on that thread. Please don't consider this an unusual spamming, I don't have any other way of announcing this. Thank you very much! Have a nice day! ''']''' 12:45, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


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Hello. Could you please raise the level of protection so as to prevent these single purpose IPs from debasing the article? Whatever the current protection level, it is not working. Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:{{ping|SPECIFICO}} Thanks for your note. The article currently has ]. That means that edits by IPs or non-autoconfirmed users have to be approved or rejected by someone before they become part of the article. That protection actually seems to be working. I do see one or two recent IP edits that you objected to or reverted, but I don't see any outright vandalism by IPs. Those comments had been accepted by other editors who have the Pending Changes Reviewer right, so they weren't clearly vandalism. Maybe a content dispute? I don't see any attempt to discuss it at the talk page. --] (]) 05:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
::Hi thanks for your reply. These IP edits are almost exclusively from single purpose accounts whose mission is POV editing on this article. As often occurs on the WP articles of fringe bloggers and internet self-publishers, this WP article has repeatedly attracted tech-savvy fans whose mission is not related to the larger goals of the WP community. This article has a sad history of disruptive editing, in my opinion, and would benefit from PP. I think I understand your point about pending change reviewers but setting aside whether it's outright vandalism, the protection is not working, in my opinion. Thanks for your note. ]] 15:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
:::You seem to be asking for indefinite or long-term semi-protection. But that is rare and is imposed only when all else has failed. Page semi-protection is generally only used for a short time and when vandalism is occurring frequently; it expires as soon as the protecting admin thinks is feasible. Semi-protection is specifically NOT supposed to be used to give the advantage to a confirmed editor in a content dispute with IPs. "Semi-protection should not be used ... to privilege registered users over unregistered users in (valid) content disputes." In this case, the disputed edits are not clearly vandalism and not all that frequent; they are occurring now and then over a long period of time. That's what pending changes protection was invented for. If the edits are actually vandalism, they will not get accepted. If they are accepted by PC reviewers, that suggests they are not overt vandalism. This looks like a dispute between you and the IPs, about whether or not to include the subject's opinion about global warming. Such disputes should be taken to the talk page. Start a section there, and explain why you think the material needs to be in the article. If some other people agree with you, then you have current consensus on your side, and you have other people besides yourself doing the reverting. If the other party persists after consensus has been established, there are ways to deal with that. Right now it is just your opinion against theirs. I see that you have been following this article for a long time, and in one recent edit summary you mentioned that there may be something somewhere in the archives about the same issue. Maybe you could copy a part of that earlier discussion to the current talk page, or at least repeat the main point and provide a link to the archive. I understand your frustration, but IMO a stronger type of protection is not called for. Of course, feel free to take your request to ]. --] (]) 16:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
::::Hi I think that if you take a closer look at the current and past editor behavior in this article, you'll see that the current level is not going to address the problem. We now have an IP edit-warring reviewer who declined the IP's edit. I have no bias against IPs, but these are single purpose accounts who are only editing what they appear to feel is unfavorable information concerning Mr. Molynuex. At any rate I don't mean to hassle you about this. I only came here because you were the one who responded to my request for PP and I'd hoped you would follow up. Under the circumstances, I'm not going to invest the time to repost information to the talk page and will most likely join the legion of editors and admins who abandoned this article in the course of past episodes. Thanks over and out. ]] 19:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:::::OK, well, you have invested a lot of time talking to me about it. That time would be better spent documenting your position on the talk page - or asking again at RfPP to see if some other admin feels the situation warrants semi-protection. --] (]) 20:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
::::::Actually, posting on the article talk page would not be a better use of my time. I've already stated the relevant issues in my edit comments. As to your suggestion that my time would be better spent asking at RfPP, you're presenting a false dichotomy since nothing I've done here precludes that. I thought I'd made clear, by explaining why I came here again, that I did not continue the thread in order to challenge your decision to stand back but rather to provide what I had intended to be a gracious explanation as to why I bothered you here. Neither of us has any responsibility to rescue any single article from whatever dysfunctions may befall it. Instructing folks on how best to allocate their time, in the absence of real misbehavior is very unlikely to promote fruitful interaction. Again, intending to depart. Feel free to post the last word here, I promise not to return anytime soon. Thanks. ]] 22:38, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


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You received a couple of emails on Project WIN. --] (]) 07:40, 10 September 2015 (UTC) I was very sorry to hear of your resignation (over at the unnameable site). The admin corps is the poorer for it, and thank you from me, too. ] (]) 20:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
* You have received another email. --] (]) 09:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


Are you allowed to leave? What Donovan would have said on retiring his mop:
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== Re: Institute for the Future deletion ==
:Melanie, it's a real pleasure to have served alongside you, and my deepest thanks for your guidance and support, and ], as I first became an administrator. Cheers. ''']''' (<small>aka</small> ] '''·''' ] '''·''' ]) 18:20, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Melanie, I believe it is also rude to delete the pages of 50 year old institutions that work with thousands of people every year. Misplaced Pages, for all extents and purposes, is a public resource, and yet the rules and requirements are increasingly inscrutable and inaccessible to all but the small contingent of people who follow them. No effort was made to help the Institute for the Future meet a requirement they do not understand. Does every single human in the world need to be a wikipedia expert in order for wikipedia to accurately reflect the world they live in? I would guess that very few institutions meet the notability requirement as described. What periodicals devote time specifically to talking about the existence of institutions? Please advise. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
::I just saw this through the admin newsletter. I am sorry to see that you have resigned the tools and second Yngvadottir's comment that the admin corps is poorer for it. I do hope to still see you around the 'pedia in the years to come. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for your note, ]. I understand your frustration. The institution is important to you and you want it to have a page here. But not every organization can have a page here, even if it is well established and does good work. Our criteria for an article about an organization are laid out here: ]. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, and as such it does not make value judgments about who does good work and who does not, or who is "worthy" and who is not. We are a tertiary source, meaning that we base everything here on information from reliable secondary sources, like newspapers, magazines, books, etc. If those sources find the subject important enough to write about it in detail, then we have an article. If there is NOT significant coverage from independent reliable sources, then we do not have an article. I would be very happy to help recreate an article about the Institute of the Future, if the necessary sources existed.
:So I just spent some time looking for sources. The best source I found was which devotes a paragraph to the Institute. If I could find several other reliable-source references like that, actually giving some detail ABOUT the Institute, we could think about having an article. But all the others I found were passing mentions along the lines of "so-and-so works at the Institute for the Future" - in other words, not significant coverage about the Institute itself. My search was complicated by the fact that there is also an "Institute for the Future" at New York University, and an "Instititute for the Future of Work" in Switzerland.
:But there's also some good news: In my searching I found lots of information about the Institute's director, Jane McGonigal. I was going to suggest you consider doing an article about here. But it turns out she already has one: ]. I suggest you add some more information about the Institute for the Future to that page. --] (]) 04:59, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


==Thanks==
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Thank you for your efforts here. I wish you the best, and hope to see you around. -- ] (]) 17:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Melanie, thank you for your thoughtful and thorough response. I believe the best place to look for mentions of the Institute for the Future is in books published by people who have been affiliated with it, like Jane McGonigal - though there are others who have their own pages, such as Olaf Helmer and Roy Amara. They both have active articles with now-dead links to the Institute, which suggests to me that the Institute would benefit from being a separate article that they could all link to. I've found some additional periodicals, in book form, that hopefully meet these requirement better:


== No, thank YOU! ==
https://books.google.com/books?id=ERNmAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Institute+for+the+Future%22+founded&dq=%22Institute+for+the+Future%22+founded&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAGoVChMI8ujq3N_5xwIVy1mICh1-KQUU


Thank you for your kind words, ], ], ], ], and ]! I'm not leaving Misplaced Pages, and hopefully I will see some of you around. ] (]) 17:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
http://www.fastcoexist.com/3041052/futurist-forum/predictions-about-the-last-decade-from-futurists-in-2005
:Oh, and thanks also to ] and ] for their kind comments at ]. -- ] (]) 18:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for thanking me for thanking you. ] (]) 18:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
:::LOL! You're welcome. -- ] (]) 18:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
:Best to you, Melanie! I hope life will circle you back at some point. ] (]) 22:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, ]! Could happen, you never know. -- ] (]) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! ==
https://books.google.com/books?id=Btt3HAAACAAJ&dq=%22Institute+for+the+Future%22+1968&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAGoVChMIxbTfj-D5xwIVxDOICh1BpAD3


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:Now you're talking! The first two books provide independent coverage about the institute and could be used to demonstrate notability. I suggest you create an article in draft form, using some of these sources you have found. Then check with me or with ], the administrator who deleted the article, to see if the new article demonstrates sufficient notability to be kept. If we think it is likely to be kept, we will move it to article space (the actual encyclopedia) for you. The ultimate decision about whether to keep the article will depend on community consensus.
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:I will "userfy" the article for you. That means I will put it into your private userspace, not part of the encyclopedia, where you can work on it at your leisure. You may not find the original article very useful, since it had no independent sources at all, but at least it will give you a format to start with. You should use the sources you have found to verify facts in the article. If you don't know how to format citations, help can be found here: ]. Please remember that the best sources are INDEPENDENT sources - not written by the Institute, or by people associated with the Institute, but by outsiders. That appears to be the case with your first two books, as well as the Nature article I found. Institute-associated sources can be used to verify some facts, but independent sources are needed to establish notability. --] (]) 19:20, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
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::The article is here for you to work on: ] . (If the categories look funny, I have disabled them since things in userpages should not be listed in categories. They can be reactivated when the article is moved to article space.) --] (]) 19:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you, ]! I am moved by the number of people who have come by here to say nice things, after my minimal participation over the last couple of years. -- ] (]) 15:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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I've modified the existing article to include some of these (and other) references to third party periodicals and books that support the claims made in the article. If these contributions are appropriate, can you please assist me with next steps? Thank you for your help with this.
:OK, good - this is a lot better. However, I notice that you didn't really USE the references - you simply added them to the text of the previous article, in some cases without any relationship between where you put them and what they say. References footnotes are supposed to support or confirm the information where they are placed. (You remember footnotes from school: you used a footnote to support something you just said.) But some of these seem to be almost randomly placed, just dropped into the article, even if they have nothing to do with the statement they are supposed to be supporting. Also, you didn't add any of the new information that the references contain; adding it would make the article stronger.
:For example, the "Predictions about the decade" article does not say anything about what programs the Institute offers to its clients, so it shouldn't be used as a source for that information. Instead, to use that reference you could add a sentence saying that the Institute puts out a 10-year forecast for the future every year. The Coren article does not say anything about who the clients are, or about the shift in target audience from governments to businesses - so it should not be used as a source for that information. Use it for something it actually says. The Helmer book describes the Institute as "the first independent research organization devoted exclusively to futures research"; you might want to add that somewhere. In other words, USE the sources, don't just throw them into the article. One other thing: the Marina Gorbis reference is a dead link, you should fix that. Thanks for your work on this article, we are getting close to restoring it to the encyclopedia - after a few improvements. --] (]) 18:33, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
:P.S. Please add your signature to the END of your message, not to the beginning. --] (]) 18:33, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


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:{{ping|Czar}} Thanks for your note. I'd like to help, but this argument is way over my head. I am not familiar with the whole genre of video games, and I wouldn't know a changelog if it bit me. I know an edit war when I see one, which is why I imposed the protection, but the subject matter is beyond my areas of expertise. I understand your reluctance to act as an admin here, because of your involvement at the AfD, but maybe you could find an admin who is more familiar with this area than I am. And of course you are free to act as an editor. Sorry I couldn't be more help. --] (]) 20:06, 19 September 2015 (UTC)


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I find it quite rude how Strictly Come Dancing has been protected. Although I don't have an account I enjoy editing for shows and would appreciate if it was unlocked. If someone is creating an edit conflict, Block their account from editing. Simple <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:Yes, I see that you have made constructive edits to the article ]. However, multiple other unregistered users were adding unsourced material, and that was the reason for the protection. If you were to register an account, semi-protection would not be a problem for you. If you have your own reasons for not wanting to register an account, that is your privilege, but unfortunately this kind of situation will come up now and then. Sorry. --] (]) 22:15, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


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:Hello, MelanieN,
No date has been set for a byelection yet but insiders were not ruling out a factional battle over the preselection, with predictions the Right faction would resist Mr Zimmerman taking the plum seat.
:I'm so sorry to see that you have handed in your mop. I often run into older AFDs that you closed so your admin history is still alive for me. I hope you will enjoy your future pursuits and the return to being a regular editor. Many thanks for all you did here (thus far!). <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 17:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
:What???? Say it ain't so!!! Your help as an admin will be missed. &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 17:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


:oh no! I would've crashed and burned years ago if not for your guidance. you are a model for all admins. ] (]) 06:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Mr Zimmerman is a long time mover and shaker in the so called 'wet' faction of the Liberals both in state executive and behind the scenes. He has worked for Mr Hockey as a staffer and is currently a senior policy adviser at the lobby group, Tourism and Transport Forum (TTF). He is openly gay and is the current state president of the party."


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:Thanks for your note, ], but you're talking to the wrong person. The article was deleted by ] and that is who you should be take this request to. As you know, the article was deleted by community consensus at ] back in February. You say there is now an additional reference; that may or may not be enough to meet the standards for an article here, which are found at ], ], and ]. In any case, it would be up to Deor whether to restore the article, userfy it (that means put it into your private user space where you can improve it), or leave it deleted. --] (]) 23:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


* ], ], ], and ] - thank you so much for your kind comments. I have enjoyed working with each of you. I am not leaving Misplaced Pages, just giving back the mop, and I will hope to encounter you here from time to time. -- ] (]) 00:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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* Me too, catching up on news and wanted to send my thanks for your service, which always stood out to me as especially wise and valuable to the project. Really appreciate all you’ve done and glad to hear you won’t be gone completely! ] (]) 05:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! ==
Hi, I was wondering if you would reconsider this PROD deletion go to AfD instead. The reason is the French version of the article is pretty long and has sources, it's a historic figure from the 17th century who seems to have a fair number of refs available on Google Books and likely elsewhere. I don't know what the original article looked like but it may just be oversight no one bothered to look for sources. -- ]] 16:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Green Cardamom}} I'll be glad to restore it and AfD it - or userfy it to you if you prefer. The original article was an unsourced stub, created in 2012. Before deleting I did a quick search myself; I found quite a few mentions, all in French, but offhand nothing looked to me like SIGNIFICANT coverage. I also noticed that there is a sizable article at fr.wiki. Would you like a chance to work on it yourself, or would you rather I send it it to AfD where others can search for sources? --] (]) 17:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
::Thanks. I made a stub. There are many other sources on Google Books, but they are snipit view in French. They can be brought up in AfD as evidence of notability, but can't incorporate into the article without knowing exactly what they say. If you prefer to AfD it I understand but hope this is sufficient to hold it until someone with better resources and French speaker works on it. There's no doubt he was an important French writer of the 17th century. -- ]] 00:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
:::Good work. It's now a REFERENCED stub and looks good to me. I see no need to AfD it, and I will put an old-prod notice on the talk page so that nobody tries to prod it a second time. --] (]) 00:38, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
:::P.S. I noticed that the article is an orphan. So I was going to put a link at ]. But Tronchay isn't mentioned there, and I didn't have a source, and I wasn't quite sure about the relationship between them. Were Tillemont's writings compiled and published posthumously by Tronchay? --] (]) 00:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
::::Good idea added the backlink. -- ]] 01:04, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
:::::I probably have a weird sense of humor, but this phrase - ''publication of both works was not completed until after his death by his secretary ]'' - struck me as funny in a dark sort of way. Death by his secretary? I reworded it, hope you don't mind. --] (]) 01:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
:::::: Yeah it could be read that way! -- ]] 14:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


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== Protection of Attempted assassination of Donald Trump talk page ==
MelanieN,


Hi, Just wondering why the talk page of this article is protected. ] (]) 08:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Can you please review your decision to delete the list of ESPN College Gameday locations article? It was an extremely useful archive that isn't replicated anywhere else on the Internet -- not just for sportswriters, but for fans as well. It's a lot of information. Even if we can just have it back to re-create it on the main page for ESPN Gameday, that would be a huge benefit. Losing it in the middle of the season, for reasons that don't make any sense (I read the entire debate), isn't good for anyone. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:12, 22 September 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*I have no idea. I wasn't the one who protected it. In fact I haven't been to that article at all. -- ] (]) 21:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
:Hello! The consensus at ] was pretty clear. People cited ] and ] as well as noting that the article was mostly unsourced. You are welcome to take it to ] if you wish. However, I should warn you that "]" is an example of an "argument to avoid in deletion discussions", and "it's not replicated anywhere else on the Internet" is another way of saying "unsourced". But feel free to take it to DRV. I will not argue against restoration, and if the consensus at DRV is to put the information into the College GameDay main article, I will restore the information to whoever is going to put it there. (Somebody seems to have started trying to do something like that as we speak.) --] (]) 17:50, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


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== Frank Page (cartoonist) Deletion ==


Just making you aware of ] current RfC on the talk page. Hoping you can be the one to resolve it when the time comes. ] (]) 09:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Well, as someone who has watched Frank Page work on 'Bob the Squirrel' for years and then to find that his page was removed for an elitist motive by someone who apparently feels that independent artists aren't important... I can tell you I'll never donate to Misplaced Pages again.
:Thanks for the alert, but I will not be able to assist with this discussion. -- ] (]) 16:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)


== Invitation to participate in a research ==
If this is what my money goes to then forget it. I thought this was supposed to be a record of our world. Not the personal whim of arbitrary editors who have some kind of personal vendetta or maybe just a massive indifference towards people who create art for the rest of us... Either way. Thanks for relieving me of spending another dime on Misplaced Pages... I thought it was supposed to be bigger than personal opinions. ] (]) 01:38, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Lynn (talk) 22:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC) sends thanks to Melanie for your encouraging feedback to this Wiki semi-newbie regarding his scale to quantify the darkness of the night sky. And for all you do for Misplaced Pages.

ATTENTION: Moderator Abuse of Power - "Wes Sideman"

Hello,

I am writing to you concerned about moderator Wes Sideman (whom I have linked to below). He seems to have an obsession with this television character “Chad Johnson” from the TV show “The Bachelorette” and his Misplaced Pages page. He continues to change the notoriety of Chad Johnson from his TV shows, to his arrest records attempting to defame him. Those charges were dropped and as you can see in the video below, his girlfriend admits no assault happened. Apparently Wes Sideman knows more than the two people actually involved in the incident. Wes Sideman also continues to remove any remotely good press about Chad from the Misplaced Pages page. For some reason Wes has been monitoring and harassing this Misplaced Pages page for over two years now. If you have time, I would ask or suggest that you look into doing something about this Wes Sideman moderator using an abuse of power on Misplaced Pages.

Thank you.

Admission of no assault - https://youtu .be/qyK8-_kaVt8

Examples of Wes Sideman’s edits - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/1116808783

Wes Sideman’s page - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Wes_sideman&action=view

Chad Johnson’s Misplaced Pages - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Chad_Johnson_(TV_personality) 193.192.116.74 (talk) 19:53, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@MelanieN: Oddly, I got one of these messages on my own Talk page. No idea why, as I don't recall any interaction with either the IP editor or the target of their ire, Wes sideman. See also this entry: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase#Chad_Johnson_(TV_personality). A puzzle that I can only resolve by referring the IP to ANI. Cheers! Geoff | 20:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Like you,Geoff, I have had no interaction with this article and have no idea why they chose me (and you, and Ed Johnson) to post his identical complaint. And they have now posted it on the BLP notice board. I see no reason to get involved with the situation myself. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Socrates

Hi MelanieN, hoping you are well. Can you pls do something about the talk page of Socrates, someone is messing around, apparently. Cinadon36 11:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, User:Cinadon36, and thanks for the note. I know this kind of thing is annoying, but it is not anywhere near the level needed to add protection to a talk page. There were just two problem edits this week, and before that nothing since October. This kind of thing can be handled by normal watchlisting. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Ok, thanks Mel! Cheers Cinadon36 05:21, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

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Seasons Greetings

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Happy New Year, MelanieN!

Happy New Year!

MelanieN,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.
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Can you help with a disruptive editor?

Hello! I raised this issue at ANI but no admins have responded. User:GigachadGigachad has made a slew of unsourced and misrepresented edits and removed content without explaining why, for which they were blocked in the past, and yet they are at this point ignoring the many warnings that users have posted on their talk page. This seems like a clear WP:CIR issue, so can you take action? Thanks. (Also sorry for posting this, deleting, and then reposting. Had some big formatting issues) Cpotisch (talk) 21:16, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi!

I was just doing some editing for the first time in a while (someone was putting in spam links in article I was interested in) and so was catching up and looking back. I see I got a barnstar once from someone who is now an admin, though it has been a long time so you might not remember giving it to me. I need to find that article I was quoted in. Anyways, glad to see you are doing well here. I think I might have caught the editing bug again, so I might do some more editing now again. XinJeisan (talk) 07:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, XinJeisan! Yes, that was me. That was a long time ago, back in 2011. I don't remember what was the occasion for you being quoted in the press (and I stupidly didn't provide a link - I was kind of a newbie myself back then). But I'm sure you deserved it. Glad to see you are back! -- MelanieN (talk) 16:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Misplaced Pages globe and sysop mopHappy adminship anniversary!
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Pure Storage requested edits

Hi MelanieN. I work for Pure Storage and have a disclosed COI. The page seems to have a confusing history. At times editors have said to edit the page, to not edit the page, that the company already edited the page inappropriately (many years ago), and there’s a lot of very vague comments/feedback saying the page needs improvement.

I disclosed a COI and requested some edits here to clarify the Purity OS is used on most (but not all) products, to update the list of product families, etc. A couple editors responded, but it is not very clear what next steps are. Your help would be much appreciated if you could clear the fog, even if it’s just to tell me my requested edits are bad and why. ZacBond (talk) 21:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Kiefer Sutherland and Charlize Theron

Hi, I noticed that the pages Kiefer Sutherland and Charlize Theron are both indefinitely semi-protected but are both missing the padlock icon at the top right of the page, can you fix this for both pages? Thanks. Voabo (talk) 23:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Voabo. Looks like alert editor LilianaUwU has already fixed it. Thanks, Liliana! -- MelanieN (talk) 00:26, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Hogwarts Legacy protection

Hello, thanks for taking care of the vandalism on the page. However, I would consider the 1 month protection too long. Right now, the page is being worked on a lot as it got newly released and a lot of people come around. Could you reduce the protection again to one level lower than now? Vestigium Leonis (talk) 22:53, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Vestigium Leonis, and thanks for the note. I see the problem: you yourself are not Extended Confirmed, and so the new protection is keeping you from editing. I sympathize, because you were not the one causing the problems. But there was a real problem with vandalism edits from auto-confirmed editors (or one editor under multiple names; several of the names have been blocked but there are always more in this kind of case). The vandalism was such that it is covered by the rules of WP:GENSEX. Let's do this: After a week I will lower it to semi-protection and we will see what happens. If things stay calm, fine. If the same problem comes back, I will have to restore the extended-confirmed protection, possibly for a longer time. Post here on my talk page on Sunday, Feb. 19 to remind me. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello, just here for the reminder. Thanks (Depending on timezones it might not be Sunday for you already though). Vestigium Leonis (talk) 23:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Good point; it's still Saturday here. But I will reduce the protection level and let's see what happens. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

RfPP request at Gqeberha

Hi! I understand you declined the RfPP request for Gqeberha because most of the disruptive edits were by a single auto-confirmed editor, Dgv102. Of course this is completely reasonable.

You might want to take another look at their edits though as they have continued to remove/change referenced content about South African city naming across several articles. Also another IP (196.41.10.18 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)) continues to make similar edits at Gqeberha and other South African city articles.

Thanks! — MarkH21 11:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

I'll also add that their only response continues to be If you censor me I will report you to the USA House of Representative media committee, so they're WP:NOTHERE. — MarkH21 12:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
I have blocked them for 48 hours. I'll keep an eye on that IP; my hunch is it is the same person, editing without logging in. I will look forward to being reported to the USA House of Representative media committee, or possibly to the United States, House of Representatives Committee on Social media. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Hogwarts Legacy semi-protection

Hi MelanieN. I've noticed that you reduced from ECP to semi-protection on Hogwarts Legacy with expiration time left in place. However, you may have not noticed that another admin placed indefinite semi-protection under CT procedures per WP:GENSEX? See the log here: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&logid=140949542.

In my opinion, I think you should revert back to indefinite as other admins cannot modify his restriction under CT procedures for one year without his affirmative consent, community consensus, or arbcom. Stylez995 (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert. I missed that. I will restore the semi-protection to indefinite. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

ScotRail

Thanks for your change, but it seems like protection of ScotRail after three bad edits in 10 days seems like overkill. I wouldn't say we are struggling to say on top of the article in any way. Just my US$0.02. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the comment, 10mmsocket. That's why I gave it Pending Change protection instead of semi-protection. PC is exactly designed for the kind of article that gets problem edits, not frequently enough for semi-protection, but recurrent over a period of months or longer. It also has the advantage that when there are edits from IPs that are constructive, they can be accepted and integrated into the article. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
    I never saw it that way. Thanks. 10mmsocket (talk) 22:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

WP:USPLACE

Hi Melanie - rather than further mucking up the RfC talk, I wanted to ask you about USPLACE here for a minute. For years, I was essentially neutral on this. I see the pros of keeping the USPLACE status quo - it's a bright line rule, and as you note, it is at least rooted in one clearly reliable source. But after seeing the issue come up over and over and over, either as a full RfC, or on individual city article RMs (and I think your private list is missing a number of those discussions, just fyi), I've come around to thinking that the only way to truly retire this as an issue is to do one simple thing: anywhere - but only where - a city name is a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to a city article, swap City, State for City. That's it. No other discussion needed. This would mean zero "constant battles" because the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC has already been decided. If someone wants to battle about Phoenix or Nashville or Raleigh or Charlotte, they are already free to do that today - regardless of USPLACE. Swapping primaryredirects would have no impact on Springfield or Greenville or anywhere else - no battles.

The main problem with USPLACE - the reason challenging it will never die - is because it is so arbitrary. It's a fundamentally flawed compromise. There have been countless other Wiki battles that did resolve - WP:COMMA, WP:ENDASH, New York, etc. This one keeps going because in standard American usage, there is no reason to allow Seattle but not Nashville, or to allow Honolulu but not Beverly Hills.

I know you've been a staunch supporter of USPLACE for a long time. I also know you are a dedicated, smart, pragmatic editor. This just feels to me like the pragmatic way out of all this! Appreciate you taking the time here, and interested in your thoughts. Dohn joe (talk) 16:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughtful note, Dohn joe. (And how are you? Long time no see.) I do strongly feel that US cities should have the state appended to their name, for reasons I have spelled out elsewhere, so I do not agree with dropping the state. And I am not moved by the argument that the US naming convention has to be identical to every other country's; uniqueness for individual country standards or formats is accepted at Misplaced Pages. But I do see where you are coming from about the AP exceptions. I would be perfectly OK with eliminating the AP rule and making all of our cities have the state added. This would not really create any disruption, because someone searching for "Chicago" would automatically end up at "Chicago, Illinois" without even noticing they have been redirected. Whereas removing the state from all cities that are unique would, as I have argued in the past, have cities like "Hawaiian Gardens, California" or "Sleepy Eye, Minnesota" demanding their states back. Continuing the Minnesota examples, a city name like "Elko New Market" or "Shoreview" or "Sauk Centre" or "Blue Earth" or "Olivia" or "St. Bonifacius" ... well, you get the idea. The name conveys no information without the state. I should probably make clearer at the discussion that I am willing to abandon the AP and list the state at all city articles. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, Melanie, doing well - hope you are too! U.S. placenames are such an odd situation. I looked at it a long time ago, and somewhere around 80 percent of U.S. placenames will require disambiguation no matter what the convention is. So having the "default" be City would mean only 20 percent of U.S. places would really be at City. Which is a good WP:CONSISTENCY argument to just have everything at City, State. But then it's not consistent with normal WP practice, which is to have everything at Name unless there are two topics called "Name", in which case you go to the primarytopic discussion. If Hawaiian Gardens was a town in New Zealand, it would be at Hawaiian Gardens. Which is why I disagree with adding the state to "give context" or "convey information" - that's not how WP usually titles things. All that said, universal City, State is my second-best situation. I still think that people would come along trying to get things in line with regular WP usage, but it's a much better outcome than what we have now. I'll go say that over at the RfC. Dohn joe (talk) 01:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Userfy Article

You were the deleting admin on this article. I was wondering if you could please userfy it for me. The issues included the nominator and one of the comments were sock puppets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ron_Duncan_(2nd_nomination)

BlackAmerican (talk) 02:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, BlackAmerican. The article is now at User:BlackAmerican/Ron Duncan. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:59, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Omar (opera)

Hello! Your submission of Omar (opera) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! GRuban (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Omar (opera)

On 6 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Omar (opera), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the opera Omar, about the Muslim scholar Omar ibn Said, had its world premiere in a theater located less than a mile (1.6 km) from the site where he was sold as a slave? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Omar (opera). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Omar (opera)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

April songs
my story today

Thank you! It's also featured on project opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I loved to see Marian Anderson and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. Impressions of Easter here and music here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Gerda! I'm afraid I missed it, not having logged on to my computer all day yesterday. Was busy pretty much all day, first singing multiple Easter services and then getting together with family. Of course I am familiar with her singing at the Lincoln Memorial, but I didn't realize that was the day. Good to know. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, it was very similar for me. Yes, I knew of the event, but had even commented out some images when there was a complaint about too many on her birthday. Only when I read the article again did I realize that the original event had also been Easter Sunday, which made extra meaningful. - I like the stats. - My multiple services were on four days in a row, as you probably saw, otherwise I'd have passed the news around on Sunday. In Germany, Monday was still Easter ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Megyn Kelly

Hi, I stumbled across the Megyn Kelly page and noticed that it is indefinitely semi-protected but is missing the padlock icon at the top right of the page, can you fix this? Thanks. Kyle Idleman (talk) 03:05, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)  Done Galobtter (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
@Kyle Idleman: And how exactly did you "stumble" across the article and the problem?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Because they did the vandalism? Hi MelanieN and tpws. This is a frequent trope for this LTA, FYI. Be sure to ping a CU. -- zzuuzz 17:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, and thanks for dealing with them, zzuuzz. How would I recognize an account as an LTA in the future? -- MelanieN (talk) 20:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
You're probably already familiar with vandalism such as this or this. I don't mean just the vandalism, but also the whole context. US politicians are a particular favourite. I would eye any protection request concerning any affected article with a high degree of suspicion. I mean regular users sometimes request protection, and that's fine, but very often there's a suspicious new user to be found. Their LTA page, linked from the block log, might have some extra info. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 05:07, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Joe Rogan

The Joe Rogan page has been indefinitely semi-protected for a long time but the prior PC settings have not been reset. Can you please take care of this? Kyle Idleman (talk) 16:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done A long time is right. It's been indefinitely PC protected since 2014. The indefinite semi-protection was imposed in 2017 but the PC wasn't removed. Six years is a long time to have unnecessary PC protection on an article. You were apparently the first one to notice it. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

California Coastal Erosion

MelanieN (talk) I thought you might find this story and photos very informative: Activist (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the link, Activist! As a San Diego resident myself, I am of course familiar with the issues this article raises. But after reading it and its excellent summary of the coastal situation in California, I think I will look into adding some of this information to articles like San Diego, San Diego County, Santa Cruz, and others. (BTW it's interesting that this excellent summary of California's coastal problems was published in an East Coast newspaper! Maybe that's why it says Black's Beach is "north of San Diego" when it is actually part of San Diego.) -- MelanieN (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/26/california-coastline-changes-cliffs-climate-change/

Medellín Cartel

RE: this: Would a range block not work? - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the thought. I saw the message, and yes, it might. But the IPs are changing so rapidly, to so many different accounts, I thought it would be simpler just to protect the page. -- MelanieN (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Ok... thank you for clarifying... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Renomination of an AfD you previously voted to keep

Hi @MelanieN: I noticed you were one of the administrators who voted to keep the page Mark Chasan (founder & CEO of a publicly traded company) during its first AfD about 15 years ago. The page has been nominated for deletion again with no consensus reached and no voting activity since its relisting last week. For context, a quick edit history since the renomination shows promo has been removed and NPOV has been improved. I wanted to send you a note in case you had thoughts you wanted to share. Editchecker123 (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Editchecker123, and thanks for your kind note. Actually I wasn't an admin in 2009; I was pretty much a newbie. Looking at the current article now, I note that it has lots of references but mostly from minor or little-known sources. I don't feel strongly enough one way or the other to comment at the AfD, except that the article should not be deleted. At worst it should be redirected to emusic. I guess I could go and say that. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks @MelanieN for your kind note to me as well. Since @Liz closed out the AfD, I thought it would be helpful to bring her into the follow-up to the conversation here. It’s been about a day with no activity on the merging front of the two articles, I thought I would volunteer to merge them (given I voted on the AfD, I had hoped someone else would do the merging, but it looks like not).
I wanted to ask your thoughts on the draftification piece given that’s not something I’ve seen done before as part of an AfD after a redirect (and not actually sure how to accomplish that outcome either). Since some of the main problems with the article originally were Promo/Advert/COI/SPA and initial writing by Guruvie, what if instead of draftifying the article, after merging relevant info, the article were rewritten from the ground-up in-place (i.e. it would start as a stub and as more reliable sources were found it would grow). Seems this would solve the main issues discussed and be a simpler outcome to accomplish?
I know this is not commonplace, but given the AfD closure wasn’t either and we had very weak consensus, I wanted to propose this to you as administrators with the offer that I’d be willing to take on that project as well. Editchecker123 (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I might be able to do the merge later today - given that I argued for it so strongly. As for rewriting the article, yes, that is what we should do - but as a draft! Then we can do all we want with the draft, and nobody will look at it or evaluate it unless/until we are ready to request that it be changed from a draft to an article. While the work on the draft is going on, the only thing left of the article itself will be a redirect to the company. Give me the rest of today, I might be able to get it done. It's not unusual for it to take a while before a merge gets done. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:55, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Sounds good. This is an interesting process to watch for the end of an AfD (more intriguing than the other AfDs I have watched over the years). Appreciate you explaining how it works and look forward to seeing this process of drafifcation here. Editchecker123 (talk) 21:36, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
OK, it's done. How it's done: first I transferred some of the information about how he founded eMusic and its company history to the eMusic article. Then I used the "move" function to move the entire, unchanged Mark Chasan article from article space to Draft:Mark Chasan. I moved the talk page too. In the draft article, I removed the notice about merging, and I also disabled all the categories, since we don't list drafts under any categories. Now the draft can be worked on freely, making as many changes as you want, and nobody will comment on it unless/until you request that it go back to being an article. BTW one of the things I held against the article was its lack of mainstream/major sources. I think if you look at the eMusic article you may find some mainstream sources that can be borrowed for the Chasan article. Thanks for involving me in this, it's kind of fun to carry out something unusual like that! It was clever of Liz to come up with that solution to the problem. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:15, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining how it was done, a lot simpler than I would have imagined! Agreed, if I have time, I’ll go back through and see if any of the sources from the eMusic article can be borrowed for the draft article. Out of curiosity, what’s the procedure for moving an article such as this one for example that was draftified back into article space once it has been cleaned up content and source-wise? Editchecker123 (talk) 08:56, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Aww, that's so sweet! Thank you! -- MelanieN (talk) 20:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

LastPass

Hi MelanieN. I work for LastPass. I disclosed a COI, flagged about half of the page being focused on security breaches, and got a response from @Chumpih:. He seemed to agree but doesn’t want to keep editing without other editor(s) weighing in. I was hoping you might take a look and weigh in . Appreciate your time. AmyMarchiando (talk) 18:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Adam Schiff and Al Roker

Hi, the following indefinitely semi-protected pages need their prior PC settings reset:

Would you kindly take care of this for both pages? Thanks. Supernoodler (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the alert, Supernoodler. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Indefinitely semi-protected pages needing prior PC settings reset

Hi, the following indefinitely semi-protected pages need their prior PC settings reset:

Also, you may decide to take a look at Special:StablePages to see if there are anymore.

If you don't mind, would you take care of this for all the above pages? Thanks. Visualian (talk) 16:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert, Visualian. I think I got them all, but you might check and see if I missed any or messed any of them up. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:48, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Paula Deen has the same issue, can you please fix? Visualian (talk) 02:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 Done -- MelanieN (talk) 16:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Denmark

Greetings, the Denmark page has been indefinitely semi-protected for more than four years but still has not had its prior PC settings reset. Would you kindly please take care of this? Thanks. Joshuanite (talk) 02:43, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

This message was brought to you by a WP:HAND sock of User:CalebHughes. Favonian (talk) 18:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning, Favonian. The user may be a banned sock, but the request was legitimate so I carried it out. This was a long-overdue correction of a problem. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:05, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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Would you please fix this on each of the above pages? Thank you. Spaniolo (talk) 20:23, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Help with the Update to U.S. Marine Network Security Breach section on the Lenovo page

Hi MelanieN. I disclosed a conflict of interest and requested balancing a section on a political issue here. In a nutshell, the section cites one source alleging Lenovo was involved in a conspiracy to spy on US military operations for China, without balancing with other sources saying the allegations were bogus. I was hoping you might be willing to take a look at my request? Let me know. Best regards. StuartGill (talk) 18:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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Edit summary grief

LTNS, Melanie. Hope you're well. Numerous edit summaries by User 49.190.56.20 re the Noun article are downright uncivil at worst or rife with impertinence at best. The edits themselves aren't without merit; I'm concerned only about the summaries themselves. Would extended confirmed protection be in order for a few weeks to pause the grief? Here are the offending edit summaries:

Alternatively, a warning to the user or even a temporary ban from editing the Noun article might be a consideration. I wouldn't mind being additionally subject to such a ban if you think my sarcastically chastising edit summary merits a slap on my wrist. Cheers. Kent Dominic·(talk) 06:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Well! I promptly replied at my user talkpage and agreed to be more kind if he would do the same and desist from his own rude and dismissive edits (quoted to him there, at my talkpage). Kent Dominic repeatedly refuses to read the explanations that I give for my extremely careful edits (and I do know about this topic, as should be clear from the content that I revise and add). Earlier I complimented Kent in an edit summary, which he appears not to have noticed; he certainly hasn't reciprocated, with any acknowledgement of my own efforts toward improvement of the article. In any case, it is now much improved, after the attention we have both given it. Thanks for listening, and best wishes to all. 49.190.56.203 (talk) 07:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Whether my edits are presumed to be dismissive isn't relevant. Whether my criticisms of an edit (while not casting asperisons on editor) might be construed to be rude isn't relevant. Whether I refuse to read edit summaries (while incidentally quoting them in part in my own summaries and supplying proofs as supplied above) is a red herring. Whether your edits are extremely careful isn't relevant. How much anyone knows about nouns isn't relevant. Your complimenting me in an earlier edit summary isn't relevant. Expecting a reciprocal compliment isn't relevant. Adhering to the Misplaced Pages guidelines for edit summaries, however, is the salient issue in this thread. The sufficiency of the edits themselves isn't an issue that a sysop properly decides when considering the basis of a complaint such as the one I lodged here. Kent Dominic·(talk) 12:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Melanie, the same user now seems to think asserting a belief about what an "editor still hasn't grasped" and a gender-based proclamation re "what he himself (sic) wikilinked" is proper verbiage for an edit summary. Kent Dominic·(talk) 13:02, 2 February 2024

O, sorry about that. If you prefer "they themself" I'll do it that way in future. Kent is normally a male name, and I found no pronoun guidance at your userpage. I stand by that "editor still hasn't grasped" remark, because it's plainly justified. I note that you have more offensive wording in your own subsequent summary text (see recent summaries). I have requested at the talkpage for Noun that you drop the stick, after again complimenting you on a good edit. Best wishes to all! ☺ 49.190.56.203 (talk) 06:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
  • The unsigned edit is remedied.
  • No need to apologize to me for the presumption. Can't say the same on behalf of anyone else who's the target of a conclusory characterization.
  • For the record, Kent Dominic is a logon name that represents a singular user. Accordingly, I emphatically do not appreciate being the object of a singular they reference. However, since they, them, their (etc.) are third-person pronouns, I make no demands on how others pronominally refer to me in such contexts. While I admit no condescension toward others who use plural pronouns for an individual person or thing, I'm always ready to excoriate the semantic ignorance implicit in such usage apart from the modern-day social implications.
  • I'm loath to characterize anyone as being ignorant for statements such as "editor still hasn't grasped". Such a characterization would be sua sponte uncivil. I'm entirely prepared to delinate the semantic ignorance implicit in a statement that conflates the meanings of grasp versus acknowledge versus admitted. I concede being powerless to control what others guilessly justify for themselves.
  • Also FTR, I'm careful to distinguish vituperating ridiculous premises, arguments, and conclusions without ad hominem insults. If you feel personally abraded for criticisms of your edits, tough. If I've made any vituperative comments about any editor's person, kindly give an example.
  • In a similar vein, Misplaced Pages is not a social media site where editors acquire capital (or typically seek plaudits) for "a fine edit" commentary, nor am I one to take umbrage at subjective characterizations such as "a ridiculous edit summary". Please better acquaint yourself with the Misplaced Pages guidance on allowable content in edit summaries, which does permit pointed objections to the substance of the edit itself. To reiterate, if you feel personally abraded for criticisms of your edits, tough. If you want to criticize the verbiage in an edit summary, a talk page such as this one is the proper place for it. E.g., I'll opine how "That was a fine edit (apart from the ridiculous edit summary)" is puerile glibberish for an edit summary and a characterization that I'd deem inconsequential on a talk page.
  • FYI: I chose MelanieN (who is thoughtful, kind, and chill, especially to newbies) to report your edit summary anamolies rather than (a) choosing a sysop who'd impulsively ban you, or (b) instigating a Noticeboard Incident that would invite the scrutiny of a host of sysops who'd impulsively ban you. I'm not one to bear ill will toward editors who make good faith edits and I hold no grudges against editors who make edits that don't pass my muster, but I do insist that editors follow the Misplaced Pages guidelines to avoid edit summaries that are nonrelevant to the substance of an article (e.g., a demand to "Read, learn, think, learn surprising new facts, be corrected, think again, edit; repeat as needed ... then ... STOP!■ ■ ■" or emoticons of any sort). If you're so inclined, post such verbiage to a user's talk page. As a fan of apophasis, I need not mention how I'd deem such an imperative as "Read, learn..." to be moronic, and I'd have no inclination to characterize the poster as moronic despite what I might believe to the contrary.
  • To MelanieN: Sorry for this wall of text on your talk page. Sometimes I forget my comments might take longer to read than it takes me to write.
  • P.S. I'm unfamiliar with the "drop the stick" phrase and can't rightly guess whether it equates to drop the baton or intended to mean drop the schtick or something otherwise. Kent Dominic·(talk) 14:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Kent Dominic, rather than deal with the same issues at all places where you have posted, I reply here only.

Goodbye, and good luck! ☺♥ 49.190.56.203 (talk) 23:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Christmas in the Park up for deletion

The article Christmas in the Park (San Jose) was nominated for deletion again. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Adminship Resignation

Job Done
In thanks for nine years of adminship now humbly resigned. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I was very sorry to hear of your resignation (over at the unnameable site). The admin corps is the poorer for it, and thank you from me, too. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Are you allowed to leave? What Donovan would have said on retiring his mop:

“I did not want no job upon the board. I just wanted to take a broom and sweep the bloody floor.” "Here's your gold watch and the shackles for your chain. And your piece of paper to say you left here sane."

O3000, Ret. (talk) 20:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Melanie, it's a real pleasure to have served alongside you, and my deepest thanks for your guidance and support, and nomination, as I first became an administrator. Cheers. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 18:20, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
I just saw this through the admin newsletter. I am sorry to see that you have resigned the tools and second Yngvadottir's comment that the admin corps is poorer for it. I do hope to still see you around the 'pedia in the years to come. TheSandDoctor 18:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your efforts here. I wish you the best, and hope to see you around. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

No, thank YOU!

Thank you for your kind words, Chris, Yngvadottir, Objective, Kevin, and Alan! I'm not leaving Misplaced Pages, and hopefully I will see some of you around. MelanieN (talk) 17:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks also to Barkeep and Buster for their kind comments at WP:BN. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for thanking me for thanking you. BusterD (talk) 18:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
LOL! You're welcome. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Best to you, Melanie! I hope life will circle you back at some point. Valereee (talk) 22:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, Valereee! Could happen, you never know. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Please accept this barnstar. I've always appreciated your calm, rational, and collaborative approach to editing. You may not have done much with the admin mop recently, but you have consistently been a good example for the rest of us. ~Awilley (talk) 18:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Awilley! I am moved by the number of people who have come by here to say nice things, after my minimal participation over the last couple of years. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

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Hello, MelanieN,
I'm so sorry to see that you have handed in your mop. I often run into older AFDs that you closed so your admin history is still alive for me. I hope you will enjoy your future pursuits and the return to being a regular editor. Many thanks for all you did here (thus far!). Liz 17:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
What???? Say it ain't so!!! Your help as an admin will be missed. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
oh no! I would've crashed and burned years ago if not for your guidance. you are a model for all admins. soibangla (talk) 06:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Liz, Muboshgu, soibangla, and North America - thank you so much for your kind comments. I have enjoyed working with each of you. I am not leaving Misplaced Pages, just giving back the mop, and I will hope to encounter you here from time to time. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Me too, catching up on news and wanted to send my thanks for your service, which always stood out to me as especially wise and valuable to the project. Really appreciate all you’ve done and glad to hear you won’t be gone completely! Innisfree987 (talk) 05:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your tireless 9 years of service as an administrator. The encyclopedia is better for it and poorer without it. TheSandDoctor 18:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

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Protection of Attempted assassination of Donald Trump talk page

Hi, Just wondering why the talk page of this article is protected. 2403:6200:8810:F964:B067:4711:4774:5642 (talk) 08:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 United States presidential election

Just making you aware of this current RfC on the talk page. Hoping you can be the one to resolve it when the time comes. Vrrajkum (talk) 09:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert, but I will not be able to assist with this discussion. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

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