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== Elizabeth II ==

...and I believed that ''finally'' commonsense had come to that article's intro. Now, I fear it's going to be stuck with that 'odd' looking version, which merely panders to a few Canadians ;) ] (]) 03:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:The unicorn, the lion and all the king's horses could have agreed that, egg-wise, there may be a proverb or axiom about an honest state of mind which can sometimes result in a deficient sense of proportion when it comes to editing certain topics, or taking part in discussion. ] (]) 08:04, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
::It appears that ''progress'' is being stalled, by two individuals :( ] (]) 22:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:::I agree, but let's proceed via wikiprocess. Identify various candidate versions of the lede, put them to an RfC, and gauge support. I'm seeing a definite desire for a change, but not the details of any particular version. I think it would be wrong to leave the thing as it stands because we can't work out the model most of us want. --] (]) 22:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
::::Clarify: Are you & Track, asking me to hold off from opinoning on the proposed versions, ''until'' they're listed? ] (]) 22:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:::::I had fondly imagined that I was merely compiling a list of the various versions which have appeared or been proposed, and that discussion would take place once we had assembled a list complete enough hat nobody felt their preference had been omitted. The difficulties and modifications of attempting to make such a list whilst other editors were expressing their views and holding conversations quickly drained my enthusiasm. I may resume when I have fresh heart, I may go and become a gypsie. Either alternative is equally likely, though the delightful weather here gives the latter an extra sparkle. --] (]) 02:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Forgive my slight frustrations there. But, having stared at the absurd ''"Queen of 16..."'' version for several months, certaintly tried my patience :) ] (]) 22:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
:That's fine. I often find that if I step away from the keyboard for a bit, my subconscious mind will sort things out and find a better way of saying something than what my conscious mind insists is the first and best way forward. Sleeping on a problem, in particular, is often extremely valuable. --] (]) 22:55, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

== Note ==

Note that I have mentioned you ]. ]]] 22:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:I saw that. I would have commented on the irony of your two paragraphs, but I don't think that would be appropriate on that page, reserved for more formal processes. --] (]) 23:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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